Its the First and Second Rule of Command and Conquer Fandom, if i recall my rules correctly. With the third being "Thou shalt shun all spin-offs that are not Renegade"
i think it deserves a seperate video. but there not much background information to it. like who is Gideon? why he is such a threat and why theres no mentioning about the internal war of Nod? where is New Adana? or why Caine offered GDI a deal? and so much more that those pesky EA managers just cut out of the game.
@@deadwolf2978 Not so much "cut out" as "never wrote", as it was conceived as a spin-off but later turned into a full C&C title. so they rushed together a story with predictably terrible world-building. I don't think there is any information on Gideon to talk about outside of whats shown in the game.
@@slb797 Because they embraced the hollywood aspect. Many companies cheaped out on the actors or the special effects. Westwood and later EA understood that in order for fmv to work you needed top line professional actors and (later) great special effects
@@solinvictus4367 i disagree heavily, there were plenty FMV games back in the day that had great talents in the acting department and still sucked anus, mainly because they failed miserably at being good games. what made C&C great was that it wasn't ashamed of what it was, kane and stalin in that universe are larger than life characters and that translates well to having garbage image quality on the systems of the time, you need people with big expressions and gestures to convey any sort of emotion so giving us two characters who are just that was crucial because subtle acting wouldn't work well in that context.
I vividly remember seeing it for the first time - me and my best friend were huddled round my pc, playing C&C for the first time. When Seth started talking about attacking the pentagon and America, we both looked at each other with a WTF expression on our faces. When Seth was shot by Kane (pretty graphically), our minds were collectively blown. It really felt like we were playing a properly next gen game. And we were.
For anyone wondering what Joseph Kucan (the man playing Kane) is doing these days, he owns a 5 star theatre company in Nevada and hosts a podcast on live theatre performance. He went from the cheesiest FMVs to owning a theater...maybe he really is Kane? If anybody wants to see what's he's been up to, it's "A Public Fit Theatre Company" and the podcast is "Behind the Buzz!"
I love the fact he was hired as a casting director for the C&C games and decided to play the role of the villain himself. A choice that has proved a good one. Kane Lives!
@@justsomeone5314 I still see true fans around the games, the remaster off tib dawn and red alert could save the series inn many ways, if they get their ass to it that is
@@Nuuk_Nuke_Nook Perhaps you are right.....The bible makes no mention of him after the events of Cain killing his brother. He is not even mentioned in the end times prophecies. Only the Antichrist and Satan are mentioned.
Personal headcannon. Maybe he actually in some small way, regrets murdering his brother. Hence why he created a faction that's very cutthroat and competitive, so if he dies, then it will be like his brother killing him, projecting that entity unto his faction, thus giving him vengeance and a long overdue justice. Its sort of a subconscious thing, with Kane himself not fully aware of this desire. I like to think it this way since it depicts him being more human, deep down desiring true brotherhood and some small forgiveness, but will never attain it as he knows, that one way or another, everyone pays, even a messiah.
I think that his most badass apparition is when he summarily executes Seth after the later tries to betray Kane by sending us to die in a suicidal attack on the Pentagon! It came as a shock when I was a kid! "Yes... Power shifts more quickly than some people think!"
I agree, I played the games to watch the plot movies play out because Cain was the ultimate bad guy and gdi was awesome to play with mammoth tanks and the MARV...Size matters, lol 😊
The MAN himself captured the soul of his character so much... that nobody else could capture the role of KANE again. he has such a way with words that you can't help but stop and pay attention. he was a talented rookie actor, but a master once he was playing this role.
This documentary is clearly fake news. All the perceived failures were by Kane's own design to further his plans for ascension. Peace through power, long live Kane! (great video!)
@hi there not really it's cause Old Testament was in Hebrew And Christianity came from abrahamic religion As Judaism and Christianity share similarities and Old Testament Which is Torah
I love how he is a mystery to the very end nobody knows his true origins nobody knows his true goals still he has his faithfull (ie fanatic) followers. (even the game we don't speak about doesn't lift the cloak of secrets)
Please make more of these, I grew up on command and conquer but never understood the lore because I was to young to care. Its nice to understand what happened in these games.
Yeah, this has shown me so much about the C&C universe. I never knew that CABAL was a bio-AI that used thirty humans in test tubes for brain energy. Just cool!
It's ironic that Kane is always betrayed at least once in every game. The last one (kane's wrath) he was betrayed by a loyal follower, not a power hungry follower
@@magnuscritikaleak5045 >Believing GDI propaganda Pathetic. Kane is the savior of mankind, he's the mesiah, the reborn. He united world under one strong planetary government against universal powers. In the name of Kane!
Kane probably felt mortified after finding out he ordered to kill Killian because of a lie and betrayal by another loyal follower. Granted Killian was doubtful, but Kane doesn't know yet..
I think someone should actually try and re-create C&C4 but with a more.. different approach. Base building is still an option but it's a lot harder to maintain due to tiberium infestation, the aggressive tiberium wildlife and the occasional attack by Nod. A small faction within GDI has finally started focusing on Kane due to his innate survivability which defies all reason, from heavily corrupted video evidence of kane being around stalin, his survival of the ion cannon on sarajevo in C&C1, being impaled by a GDI commander wielding a shard of tiberium which clearly should've infected him and yet surviving not only fairly unharmed but reuniting nod time and time again with masterfully designed plans which always use tiberium. To summarise my vague idea, any re-creation of C&C4 should focus on two aspects of the games: 1) Tiberium should be threatening with a risk/reward system for it. It's a resource that allows for troop creation, building production and research funding, your main source of economy. But at the same time it will constantly spread. Harvesting keeps it under control and can even eradicate outcroppings of it but eventually you'll run low, meanwhile letting it grow too much can result in an uncontrolled spread and your base becoming infested with it, making infantry impossible to maintain, vehicles lose performance with tiberium growing into cracks and gaps in armor and even buildings losing functionality. 2) Kane is always made out as this enigmatic figure who focuses so much on tiberium, yet he's simultaneously treated as just a resilient cockroach by gdi, squished when he gets loud and then walking away while he gets back up to annoy further. Why hasn't anyone at GDI realised he's stuck around for so long, or tried planting spies in nod's troops. Turn GDI paranoid of kane, very much concerned of his activity, his end goal. My apologies if no one really understands what I've just written, it's late, I haven't slept in a day or so and I just finished the entirety of tiberian sun's campaigns, including firestorm.
@MikeProductions1000 That abomination claming itself as Tiberian Twilight WAS supposed to be spin-off targeting Asian market, but EA higher-ups turned it into AAA package (or what they think it is.)
They could not rely on fancy special effects and resolution do they had to make up for it with memorable acting and original direction. That’s why these still hold up.
lol. FMV from that era was something else. Even when they could get moderately famous actors. I still remember Wing Commander 3 and 4... Pretty high standards for an FMV game, but it's still pretty hilarious. Sure you've got a lot of (at the time) B list celebrities - the lead is Mark Hamill, and then you've also got Malcolm McDowell, John Rhys Davies, Thomas wilson... And a few others... But... You know what doesn't help the porn vibe? The fact that 'chief tech Rachel Coriolis' was in fact, a porn star trying to break into mainstream acting. Just watching any scene she does with Mark Hamill gives of some seriously weird vibes... XD Yeah, 90's FMV acting huh... XD
For me, the older cutscenes didn't struck me as pornish. It looked real good. A bit cheesy maybe, and at times a bit hammy (Red Alert 1 & 2 mainly), but who cares. If its awesome, then its awesome. Best one for me was Tiberian Sun's cutscenes. In most games, I would like to imagine it in anime form (cause anime is fucking awesome and superior to everything), but not Tiberian Sun though. It was just that good and memorable, and the ladies were fucking hot as well, and Kane, maybe its just me, but in Tiberian Sun, he seems far more divine than ever. Tiberian Wars made him somewhat human (IMO) but I preferred the one in Tiberian Sun. But Red Alert 3 however, damn. I swear half the time the characters on screen are just about ready to fuck each other, and all the time, I was painfully disappointed when that didn't happen. Feels bad man.
I left C&C4 out of the last video, and I was really happy to see almost unanimous agreement with that. There was so much wrong with the story in that game. Kane lives!
vandal 33 C&C 3 was still a solid game, and while not the same that Westwood had intended, which would also have had CABAL as a separate faction, still was a decent addition to the lore of C&C
@@thesteellegionnaire4570 C&C3 at least made a solid effort with the lore, with the database entries, the novel, and Kane's Wrath tying up loose plot threads from previous games.
I wouldn't say the game sucks... but much like with Supreme Commander 2, this should not have been a part of the C&C storyline. But EA is EA and EA does EA things, like take an almost finished solid spinoff intended for asian markets, slap a hastily made excuse for a story on it and call it a finale.
"We've found him, Commander- Kane's temple and base of operations. This field operative's covert transmission came to us live just five minutes ago, so there's no doubt that Kane's inside. He's surrounded himself with his own crack militia. Getting to him... won't be easy. Ironic, isn't it? Kane's planted his temple just outside of Sarajevo. If that sounds familiar, it's because that's where another madman (Gavrilo Princip) started World War I (The Assassination of Austro-Hungarian Duke Franz Ferdinand). And here we are, trying to stop this madman from doing it again. Commander, there is to be no quarter given. No leniency in dealing with Kane and his zealots. Wipe his temple off the face of the earth. Destroy the bastard... or prepare to... die trying." GDI General Mark Jamison Shappard First Tiberium War
I also love the historical reference / in-joke, because which group was the madman a member of? The Black Hand! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hand_(Serbia)
I've played C&C forever, but never really been into the lore. Just skipped the cutscenes, and I regret how much I missed. Holy shit, the lore is amazing.
I simply love the games (minus the ones that shall not be named) and the lore of Kane is simply fascinating. I find that his story is SO WELL portrayed in this vid, from the snippets of cutscenes from the games, to the stellar voice over to the graphics / interface, mimicing a sort of briefing or documentary. All of it makes such a compelling package and a pleasure to watch! I have watched this vid now a few times and ill still watch it a few more times in the coming future. All is that is left to say is WELL DONE! and I am looking forward to your coming videos.
***INCOMING TRANSMISSION*** ***STAND BY*** Thank you so much for these videos! They are so well made if they had EVA narrating them I would think they were part of the game. I grew up with the games in this franchise and it's so sad to see Command and Conquer being destroyed with games such as CnC [REDACTED] 4 and later with the complete joke CnC Rivals. Thank you again for your time and effort put into these great videos. - Commander[DATA EXPUNGED]
Its the first time I have finally gotten the full story. I doubt I will ever manage to complete all the games, my backlog is just too long, so it was great seeing it told like this, including the greatest cutscenes from the the series.
I love and adore how even after all these years we're still getting C&C Content on UA-cam such as this. Really shows the impact it left in people's hearts.
Quick head canon, Kane slew Able because Able was working for the Scrin. At the very least, Kane had witnessed his world burn because of them. At that moment he began his life long vendetta against the aliens who stole his world from him. Kane visited countless world, watched countless attempts to forestall the Scrin, all ending in failure, all too late to have hope. Worlds would follow a pattern, embrace Ichor and fall to ruin at the hands of the cult of Travelers, die off to be harvested by the Foreman, or try to eliminate the precious resource and wake the cult of Reapers. Kane watched as these world burned; he started a record of sorts. One which each doomed race would out line everything they knew, all the weapons, technology, counter measures, everything they had tried. It was in their own words so, Kane could only guess at it's content. Tacitus, the living record of the dead set to avenge them all. Finally it was time to pick a world, a world yet to be seeded that Kane could guide in glorious rebellion. Somehow he convinced the Scrin to send him alongside Able in the veils of humans. Kane killed Able first, then started his work. Through the manipulation of world events, Kane would guide humanity to a force that would strike at the heart of the Scrin empire. Even Einstein's use of the Chronosphere did not stop his plans. The seed was coming and humanity needed to be ready when it did. This is where things take a turn, I believe Kane intended to win the first war, gain control of Tiberium, and set the world on a path of war. Kane, however, was ok with losing as it set them on the path of victory regardless. Now again, this is head canon and likely would never be thought out this far by the developers. The first Tib war could be seen as Kane's way of preparing the world for the Traveler. Kane admits that they are a mystery, even to him, so it would make since to be a bit disjointed. Next is the second Tib war; the planet is dying, without help all life will die and the foreman will have a dead planet to harvest. The humans need the Tacitus but they are yet to be ready for it, so Kane starts a new war. This leads them to Tratos, a mutant Kane likely made able to read the many languages inside the Tacitus. Once again, Kane need only let the world choose, defeat him and use the knowledge inside the Tacitus or fire the world altering missile and rob the Scrin of any advantage. Once again, it didn't matter. Lastly, the last Tib war. GDI has Tiberium under control and is slowly taking their planet back, but they have cut military spending to a minimum. Should they "cure" the planet of Tiberium, they will wake the cult of Reaper and with military spending so low, the cult will wipe them all out. Kane can't allow this, they must fight on his terms. First, wake the sleeping GDI and get them back to who they were. Next, bring the Scrin in early; rob them of the advantages, introduce the world to them, and show them that Earth will not fall so easily. Millenia of scheming, Kane's plans are finally coming to fruition. Now Kane need only wait. While waiting, he gives Legion an unstoppable (to the Scrin) Cyborg army and helps Legion hack the Scrin Networks. Kane has played the villain to save this world. Earth is ready, GDI and Nod, though at odds, are ready. The Scrin are coming and Kane has done all he can. The anger and fury of trillions of lives now rest with the humans.
I grew up with all of the C&C titles and i always rooted for kane. When ever he would survive and show up in the next iteration it would fill me with a sense of joy.
Bro this is the greatest video I've ever seen about c&c and its story! After watching this to the end I am now able to see your channel is clearly underrated
I pledge allegiance to the Brotherhood of NOD, its coat of arms - the tail of the scorpion, and its leader - the all-powerful and benevolent Kane, for his way is the righteous one and the only way to achieve divination. One vision, one purpose - technology of peace! Peace through power, in the name of Kane!
Sometimes i feel like people underestimate Command And Conquer lore because of the campy cutscenes and the Red Alert series and Generals, because mainline Tiberium lore is actually really interesting and cool.
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This video is amazing, thanks for the gathering all the knowledge behind NOD
Thank you so much, not only for this video but all the others you made on C&C, the great quality makes me confident that they'll be remembered for times to come. Peace Through Power brother
I clicked this video just to take a brief look since i loved Command and Conquer on the PSX when i was a kid. Ended up watching the whole video being captured every second by how well this is made. Incredibly good job Sir!
Awesome video! I've always loved this character but fell away from the series after life became too busy to play very many games. It was great seeing what happened after I stopped playing, so thank you very much for the upload. :)
Man I stumbled onto your channel somehow and this has been a nostalgic trip. Started off with your Dune video and then revisiting the story from these games takes me back. Thanks for your work.
these videos are really well made, you are probably one of the top youtubes, that mostly covers Command and Conquer, really good video, and thanks for your other work you do a great job.
@@NoStringsPrd it was posted on the OpenRA discord, if you ever get the chance please check the mod out, it has a good competitive scene, with tournaments that have cash prizes all proved by the community.
Ah Kane, one of my favorite villains. Also one of the reasons I grew a goatee when I was capable of, because I remembered how awesome it looked on him.
Goddamn thanks for another fantastic C&C lore video! Really making me want to go play C&C3 / KW again xD. You do a fantastic job of digging up information that even I hadn't found. I still have similar feelings to last time about skipping the c&c4 lore would have been really cool to have the complete picture in one spot but I completely understand why you would want to avoid that travesty completely. Thank you for keeping this fantastic series alive with your videos, and good luck with whatever you decide to do next!
Wow, fantastic job! The Brotherhood has always been more interesting, from a story point of view, just because of all the grandiose plans and betrayals. I've always been GDI through and through, but Kane's definitely the beating heart of C&C. After all, every good GDI commander needs a fanatical Nod opponent to square off against >:D
You know, I've just listened to this vid like a podcast before, and just today I noticed Alexa's trigger discipline while pulling that gun on Kane. What a fantastically done scene.
Simply amazing, this has become one of my favorite videos on this platform since i started my experience here, over ten years ago. You really did an amazing job, and i can't wait for your next works.
Years later and I’m still learning more about the *deep lore* Hopefully one day we will get a PROPER, finisher.. I’m sure the entire fanbase disregards CNC4 as canon, and most disregard it’s existence entirely. So making a new game set after the events of CNC3 would be possible. One can hope I suppose
there is a game after CNC 3? Wow, I've never heard of such a thing. I hope it was faithful to the core gameplay of the series and followed up on the plot threads from the games that preceded it.
i love how you leave out C&C4. we dont talk about that abomination.
C&C4? What C&C4?
Its the First and Second Rule of Command and Conquer Fandom, if i recall my rules correctly. With the third being "Thou shalt shun all spin-offs that are not Renegade"
i think it deserves a seperate video. but there not much background information to it. like who is Gideon? why he is such a threat and why theres no mentioning about the internal war of Nod? where is New Adana? or why Caine offered GDI a deal? and so much more that those pesky EA managers just cut out of the game.
@@deadwolf2978 Not so much "cut out" as "never wrote", as it was conceived as a spin-off but later turned into a full C&C title. so they rushed together a story with predictably terrible world-building. I don't think there is any information on Gideon to talk about outside of whats shown in the game.
@TheRedshirt93 : i can only hope for the better, despite the fact that EA has killed c-n-c.
"Kane was betrayed... in the name of Kane."
I think that pretty much sums it up brilliantly.
thats what he gets for putting ♀on his team. did he learn nothing after thousands of years?
@@Blox117Bruh.
"Of course I could not have planned for an ambush BY MY OWN FORCES!!!"
I seriously love that line delivery
I love how for most video games, being called fmv was almost a curse, for the CNC brand, it has continued to be a source of undeniable strength
@@slb797 Because they embraced the hollywood aspect. Many companies cheaped out on the actors or the special effects. Westwood and later EA understood that in order for fmv to work you needed top line professional actors and (later) great special effects
@@solinvictus4367 i disagree heavily, there were plenty FMV games back in the day that had great talents in the acting department and still sucked anus, mainly because they failed miserably at being good games.
what made C&C great was that it wasn't ashamed of what it was, kane and stalin in that universe are larger than life characters and that translates well to having garbage image quality on the systems of the time, you need people with big expressions and gestures to convey any sort of emotion so giving us two characters who are just that was crucial because subtle acting wouldn't work well in that context.
Joe is really good when hes being shouty
18:42 btw
"Oh shit, C&C 4 wasn't mentioned. I guess the video is old"
*sees upload date*
"Ah, no, it was made by a fan of the series"
Made by the one that have faithin kane
They had us in the first half not gonna lie. LOL
Much like TMNT 3, we MAYBE acknowledge that existed and steer the conversation in ANY OTHER direction
I’ve never been more upset with a game.
"A rule of thumb EA. You can't kill the messiah."
Seth’s removal: Such a classic scene, great intro to Kane
I vividly remember seeing it for the first time - me and my best friend were huddled round my pc, playing C&C for the first time. When Seth started talking about attacking the pentagon and America, we both looked at each other with a WTF expression on our faces. When Seth was shot by Kane (pretty graphically), our minds were collectively blown. It really felt like we were playing a properly next gen game. And we were.
So it goes from god, to Kane, to Seth, to the cleaners, right?
@@studioviper3016 I played it on my Sega Saturn IIRC in 1996 or 1997.
I was actually looking forward to attacking the Pentagon lol
I loved that shit as a 12 to13 year old kid in the 90s, totally immersed me into the story.
Power shifts more quickly than some realize...
For anyone wondering what Joseph Kucan (the man playing Kane) is doing these days, he owns a 5 star theatre company in Nevada and hosts a podcast on live theatre performance. He went from the cheesiest FMVs to owning a theater...maybe he really is Kane?
If anybody wants to see what's he's been up to, it's "A Public Fit Theatre Company" and the podcast is "Behind the Buzz!"
thank you
I love the fact he was hired as a casting director for the C&C games and decided to play the role of the villain himself. A choice that has proved a good one.
Kane Lives!
Thanks will check it out.
I know this is the right channel when Tiberium Twilight is not considered lore
What the hell is Tiberium Twilight? The last game I remember from the Tiberium timeline is Kane's Wrath.
Never heard of that game
Tiberium Twilight? Didn't know there's another CnC game.
There was a C&C4? I though it was cancelled?
Real shame that EA abandoned C&C after Kane's Wrath. No games since. That Tiberium FPS looked okay. Real shame.
That angry roar from Kane when he said "I couldn't have expected an ambush from my own FORCES!" Is just amazing.
That cutscene is from which game?
Cnc3 Tiberium Wars
But what about C&C 4? Chrono legionnaire: "Never existed"
Possibly the greatest internet comment and greatest reference the worlds ever seen.
Better ask the Cryo Legionnaire than chrono legionnaire
@@Alpha-00.1 Ice Man com-eth
Not gonna lie I'd accept that as a canon explanation.
But if a Chrono Legionnaire removes a guy, but can still refer to his removal, was he ever truly removed?
The “By my own forces!” line always gives me goosebumps. 19:04
joe is a fantastic actor
Which game was this in?
@@titansidewinderCommand and Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars. Not the Kane's Wrath Expansion.
This. This right here is why i love the command and conquer fanbase! Much like Kane...it never dies.
It dies when EA makes a MOBA out of it.
@@justsomeone5314 I still see true fans around the games, the remaster off tib dawn and red alert could save the series inn many ways, if they get their ass to it that is
but why did he forget to put in the events of cnc 4?
@@Blox117 what are you talking about? There has never been a C&C 4.
I grew up on this game, and on Nod, so I’m glad there are still people interested in the lore and story. Peace through power!
Peace through power, my friend!
Lore?? If the bible is truly the word of GOD and it is fact. Then Caine and the brotherhood is real.
@@Nuuk_Nuke_Nook Perhaps you are right.....The bible makes no mention of him after the events of Cain killing his brother. He is not even mentioned in the end times prophecies. Only the Antichrist and Satan are mentioned.
one vision one purpose!
The Technology of Peace shall bring Peace Through POWER!
Love the captions at 9:34, when Kane appears back from the dead: *"the crowd sounds reasonably pleased with this turn of events".* 😂😂😂
GDI: I'm in danger!
*Laughs in Hebrew*
lol kills his brother, then makes a brotherhood that keeps betraying him
Personal headcannon. Maybe he actually in some small way, regrets murdering his brother. Hence why he created a faction that's very cutthroat and competitive, so if he dies, then it will be like his brother killing him, projecting that entity unto his faction, thus giving him vengeance and a long overdue justice. Its sort of a subconscious thing, with Kane himself not fully aware of this desire. I like to think it this way since it depicts him being more human, deep down desiring true brotherhood and some small forgiveness, but will never attain it as he knows, that one way or another, everyone pays, even a messiah.
That’s an effect of the mark that god has given him.
www.ea.com/games/command-and-conquer/command-and-conquer-remastered
Karma at it's finest
Damn actual makes the whole biblical metaphor even deeper
Kane is legit the coolest villian in gaming history. I thought he was such a bad ass villain as a kid. Nod units are so much cooler than GDI.
For real, I loved playing Nod over GDI every time. Renegade was the game that made me think GDI was kinda cool because Havoc was such a badass though
everything but the titan. that beast was such a cool walker :P
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I think that his most badass apparition is when he summarily executes Seth after the later tries to betray Kane by sending us to die in a suicidal attack on the Pentagon! It came as a shock when I was a kid! "Yes... Power shifts more quickly than some people think!"
I agree, I played the games to watch the plot movies play out because Cain was the ultimate bad guy and gdi was awesome to play with mammoth tanks and the MARV...Size matters, lol 😊
The MAN himself captured the soul of his character so much... that nobody else could capture the role of KANE again.
he has such a way with words that you can't help but stop and pay attention.
he was a talented rookie actor, but a master once he was playing this role.
Facts 💪😎👌
Kane: You can't kill the Messiah
EA: I'm about to end this man's whole career!
Community: You can't kill C&C.
Kane lives in Death!
@easy eevee devs of renegade X, mental omega, twisted insurrection, rise of the reds, tiberium essence and so on : allow us to introduce ourselves.
@@cettechaineestcloture.1351 *DEV MODDERS! ...assemble.*
@@cettechaineestcloture.1351 please go on, i just discovered the existence of the c&C mod world
Havoc: "You're making this up as you go along, aren't you?
"
Kane: "You have no appreciation for History, Havoc."
This documentary is clearly fake news. All the perceived failures were by Kane's own design to further his plans for ascension. Peace through power, long live Kane!
(great video!)
We will fight for NOD!
One vision, one purpose!
OUR LIVES FOR KANE!
Our cabal emerges
Peace Through Power!
Kane: "laughs in hebrew"
The english subtitles can be truly enlightening at times.
Hmm I wonder...
@@ONI_LONI quite, my friend, quite
hi there maybe it has to do with the biblical themes of the game
@hi there not really it's cause Old Testament was in Hebrew
And Christianity came from abrahamic religion
As Judaism and Christianity share similarities and Old Testament
Which is Torah
@@omiorahman6283 and not the BABYLONIAN TALMUD
Average Fan: Hey you forgot about ...
Hardcore Fan: [*Bitchslap*] THAT DOESN'T EXIST!
True C&C Fan: What about C&C4 ?
@@minh3264 Never heard of it, but it sounds like hot garbage.
DAMN RIGHT
There is no cnc 4 its a nightmare let it be
@@minh3264 Oh wow there's a C&C4?
I love how he is a mystery to the very end
nobody knows his true origins
nobody knows his true goals
still he has his faithfull (ie fanatic) followers.
(even the game we don't speak about doesn't lift the cloak of secrets)
Please make more of these, I grew up on command and conquer but never understood the lore because I was to young to care. Its nice to understand what happened in these games.
Yeah, this has shown me so much about the C&C universe. I never knew that CABAL was a bio-AI that used thirty humans in test tubes for brain energy. Just cool!
Lmao I'm here 23 years later
Yep, identify! 25 long years since I first acted on instinct 🙂
It's ironic that Kane is always betrayed at least once in every game. The last one (kane's wrath) he was betrayed by a loyal follower, not a power hungry follower
That’s his bane - he always gets undone by people he trusts in much the same way he supposedly did to his brother all those millennia ago...
I like how people keep trying to betray and/or kill Kane. Like, what makes people think it'll work THIS time?
@@ThatSwiggityGuy Kane is a narcissistic POWER HUNGry murderer lacking empathy. A punishment from the Divines themselves, Cao Mengde.
@@magnuscritikaleak5045 >Believing GDI propaganda
Pathetic. Kane is the savior of mankind, he's the mesiah, the reborn. He united world under one strong planetary government against universal powers.
In the name of Kane!
Kane probably felt mortified after finding out he ordered to kill Killian because of a lie and betrayal by another loyal follower.
Granted Killian was doubtful, but Kane doesn't know yet..
Slavik was too badass for the world.
Slavik was the perfect Nod officer
“I live for Kane, and I die for Kane. The difference is trivial.” - Anton Slavik
Chills every goddamn time.
I miss Slavik. :(
wtf KW had this awesome character killed offscreen
@@minh3264 Ye, reduced to a mere footnote. Had me kinda taken aback actually. He was so crucial. Sad really.
I think someone should actually try and re-create C&C4 but with a more.. different approach. Base building is still an option but it's a lot harder to maintain due to tiberium infestation, the aggressive tiberium wildlife and the occasional attack by Nod. A small faction within GDI has finally started focusing on Kane due to his innate survivability which defies all reason, from heavily corrupted video evidence of kane being around stalin, his survival of the ion cannon on sarajevo in C&C1, being impaled by a GDI commander wielding a shard of tiberium which clearly should've infected him and yet surviving not only fairly unharmed but reuniting nod time and time again with masterfully designed plans which always use tiberium.
To summarise my vague idea, any re-creation of C&C4 should focus on two aspects of the games:
1) Tiberium should be threatening with a risk/reward system for it. It's a resource that allows for troop creation, building production and research funding, your main source of economy. But at the same time it will constantly spread. Harvesting keeps it under control and can even eradicate outcroppings of it but eventually you'll run low, meanwhile letting it grow too much can result in an uncontrolled spread and your base becoming infested with it, making infantry impossible to maintain, vehicles lose performance with tiberium growing into cracks and gaps in armor and even buildings losing functionality.
2) Kane is always made out as this enigmatic figure who focuses so much on tiberium, yet he's simultaneously treated as just a resilient cockroach by gdi, squished when he gets loud and then walking away while he gets back up to annoy further. Why hasn't anyone at GDI realised he's stuck around for so long, or tried planting spies in nod's troops. Turn GDI paranoid of kane, very much concerned of his activity, his end goal.
My apologies if no one really understands what I've just written, it's late, I haven't slept in a day or so and I just finished the entirety of tiberian sun's campaigns, including firestorm.
Or with Tiberium disappearing perhaps go back into also harvesting ore like in Red Alert. ;)
Actually they should recreate cnc 3 and 4... And that will be petroglyh.
GDI : Why won't you die!
Kane : NANO MACHINE SON
3) Dont forget the Scrin's second invasion. Were we will see the REAL attack forces
@MikeProductions1000 That abomination claming itself as Tiberian Twilight WAS supposed to be spin-off targeting Asian market, but EA higher-ups turned it into AAA package (or what they think it is.)
To an immortal being, failure is just but an inconvenience.
Immortality is the only bad thing about immortality...
It makes sense trust me
@@michaellaw5322 Makes sense to me!
Well unless failure means death
As long as there is Kane, there will always be Nod. And since there will always be Kane, there will always be Nod
Cian picard And since there will always be Nod, there will always be GDI.
i love these "porn" quality older c&c cutscenes ....the first time my dad saw one with tanya he thought i was watching porn
Rofl same
They could not rely on fancy special effects and resolution do they had to make up for it with memorable acting and original direction. That’s why these still hold up.
lol. FMV from that era was something else.
Even when they could get moderately famous actors.
I still remember Wing Commander 3 and 4...
Pretty high standards for an FMV game, but it's still pretty hilarious.
Sure you've got a lot of (at the time) B list celebrities - the lead is Mark Hamill, and then you've also got Malcolm McDowell, John Rhys Davies, Thomas wilson... And a few others...
But... You know what doesn't help the porn vibe?
The fact that 'chief tech Rachel Coriolis' was in fact, a porn star trying to break into mainstream acting.
Just watching any scene she does with Mark Hamill gives of some seriously weird vibes... XD
Yeah, 90's FMV acting huh... XD
For me, the older cutscenes didn't struck me as pornish. It looked real good. A bit cheesy maybe, and at times a bit hammy (Red Alert 1 & 2 mainly), but who cares. If its awesome, then its awesome. Best one for me was Tiberian Sun's cutscenes. In most games, I would like to imagine it in anime form (cause anime is fucking awesome and superior to everything), but not Tiberian Sun though. It was just that good and memorable, and the ladies were fucking hot as well, and Kane, maybe its just me, but in Tiberian Sun, he seems far more divine than ever. Tiberian Wars made him somewhat human (IMO) but I preferred the one in Tiberian Sun.
But Red Alert 3 however, damn. I swear half the time the characters on screen are just about ready to fuck each other, and all the time, I was painfully disappointed when that didn't happen. Feels bad man.
@@someorclad9738 But it does look like porn, lol
I’m glad this didn’t take the abomination that is C&C4 as canon. Kane lives!
I left C&C4 out of the last video, and I was really happy to see almost unanimous agreement with that. There was so much wrong with the story in that game.
Kane lives!
But C&C3 was different from what westwood originally wrote about Nod, Scrin, Kane and Tiberium. EA killed C&C much earlier before C&C4.
vandal 33 C&C 3 was still a solid game, and while not the same that Westwood had intended, which would also have had CABAL as a separate faction, still was a decent addition to the lore of C&C
@@thesteellegionnaire4570 and it was a very solid showing, perhaps the best, of Kane's madness and genius.
@@thesteellegionnaire4570 C&C3 at least made a solid effort with the lore, with the database entries, the novel, and Kane's Wrath tying up loose plot threads from previous games.
Kane: "Surely nobody has to deal with this level of misunderstanding from their own followers"
The God Emperor of Mankind: "Hold my beer."
Yeah, I feel that.
God: "No! You were supposed to spread the good word of God throughout the land!"
Terrorists: "Hehe, WTT go boom"
Maybe they are the same person. BigE being Kane is the reason why his origins are shrouded
@adenosine2electricboogaloo647 its a wig
@@whydama why would the Emperor want to forcibly mutate mankind? isn't he big on keeping humanity "pure"?
C&C 4:am I a joke to you?
C&C fanbase(and me): *yes*
not even a joke but a insult
What cnc4? That doesn't exist
Its not even that the game sucks, i cant even get the thing to run in the first place.
I wouldn't say the game sucks... but much like with Supreme Commander 2, this should not have been a part of the C&C storyline.
But EA is EA and EA does EA things, like take an almost finished solid spinoff intended for asian markets, slap a hastily made excuse for a story on it and call it a finale.
sadly it is not a joke. It was the last memory of c&c. I 'll never EA.
WOAH! James Earl Jones, Michael Biehn, etc! So many great actors and cutscenes in this old game!
GDI Leadership, TW2: Darth Vader and Kyle Reese
GDI Leadership, TW3: Sam Fisher and Lando Calrissian
@@jmal Vader is the good guy but Lando is the bad guy
God I love C&C. I hope we get a conclusion to 3 someday.
Closed captions. "The crowd sounds reasonably pleased with this turn of events" Caught me off guard ngl 😄
Finally a bio on Kane! I’ve been looking for something like this for so long this is amazing thank you so much man!
"We've found him, Commander- Kane's temple and base of operations. This field operative's covert transmission came to us live just five minutes ago, so there's no doubt that Kane's inside. He's surrounded himself with his own crack militia. Getting to him... won't be easy. Ironic, isn't it? Kane's planted his temple just outside of Sarajevo. If that sounds familiar, it's because that's where another madman (Gavrilo Princip) started World War I (The Assassination of Austro-Hungarian Duke Franz Ferdinand). And here we are, trying to stop this madman from doing it again. Commander, there is to be no quarter given. No leniency in dealing with Kane and his zealots. Wipe his temple off the face of the earth. Destroy the bastard... or prepare to... die trying."
GDI General Mark Jamison Shappard First Tiberium War
I also love the historical reference / in-joke, because which group was the madman a member of? The Black Hand! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hand_(Serbia)
I just love the fact that you left out C&C4. It was such a departure from the original formula.
I've played C&C forever, but never really been into the lore. Just skipped the cutscenes, and I regret how much I missed. Holy shit, the lore is amazing.
In Kane we trust... Peace Through Power!
One Vision, One Purpose
Westwood lives in death!
@@Captain_Vitorio_Muscovy we are the black hand
Honestly you did a hell of a job. Great work!
Thank you, that really means a lot!
"It would be a sad error in judgment to mistake me for a corpse."
they really should make CNC3 ep 3 with the second scrin invasion and *MORE LORE INFORMATION WILL BE NEEDED FOREMAN 271*
The second Scrin invasion was supposed to be shown in the FPS "Tiberium". However, that game was cancelled.
@@FekLeyrTarg I know :(
@@nikkity5491 If C&C: Remastered becomes successful enough, they might bring it back.
I dont think a foreman would command a military force
That's Foreman 371.
One Vision; One Purpose.
The Technology of Peace!
Peace through power!
Kane (and Command & Conquer) lives in death!
You cannot kill the messiah.
@@CaveyMoth Oh I can, need me to demonstrate? (ion cannon charging)
Thank you for keeping C&C alive.
Kane, one of the World's Greatest Minds. Even GDI can't dismiss his twisted brilliance.
I've been waiting for somebody to do a complete story arc compilation. This is incredible!
I love how much attention you give the c&c series. Despite being such an influential game series, it seems most people have forgotten about it
Watching this again. As this is awesome as always!
Your presentation was godly throughout, 24 minutes just flew by.
I simply love the games (minus the ones that shall not be named) and the lore of Kane is simply fascinating. I find that his story is SO WELL portrayed in this vid, from the snippets of cutscenes from the games, to the stellar voice over to the graphics / interface, mimicing a sort of briefing or documentary. All of it makes such a compelling package and a pleasure to watch!
I have watched this vid now a few times and ill still watch it a few more times in the coming future.
All is that is left to say is WELL DONE! and I am looking forward to your coming videos.
I love you. You ended it either with the world altering missile from Tiberian Sun, or Legions ascension at the end of Kanes Wrath.
C&C4 never DID manage to explain why Legion + Tacitus wasn't enough to activate the threshold the second time around...
Yearly I always comeback here to know that this is the best Kane lore history vid made ever
***INCOMING TRANSMISSION***
***STAND BY***
Thank you so much for these videos! They are so well made if they had EVA narrating them I would think they were part of the game. I grew up with the games in this franchise and it's so sad to see Command and Conquer being destroyed with games such as CnC [REDACTED] 4 and later with the complete joke CnC Rivals.
Thank you again for your time and effort put into these great videos.
- Commander[DATA EXPUNGED]
Thank you for watching, that really means to world to hear!
Its the first time I have finally gotten the full story. I doubt I will ever manage to complete all the games, my backlog is just too long, so it was great seeing it told like this, including the greatest cutscenes from the the series.
I love and adore how even after all these years we're still getting C&C Content on UA-cam such as this. Really shows the impact it left in people's hearts.
Quick head canon, Kane slew Able because Able was working for the Scrin. At the very least, Kane had witnessed his world burn because of them. At that moment he began his life long vendetta against the aliens who stole his world from him. Kane visited countless world, watched countless attempts to forestall the Scrin, all ending in failure, all too late to have hope. Worlds would follow a pattern, embrace Ichor and fall to ruin at the hands of the cult of Travelers, die off to be harvested by the Foreman, or try to eliminate the precious resource and wake the cult of Reapers. Kane watched as these world burned; he started a record of sorts. One which each doomed race would out line everything they knew, all the weapons, technology, counter measures, everything they had tried. It was in their own words so, Kane could only guess at it's content. Tacitus, the living record of the dead set to avenge them all.
Finally it was time to pick a world, a world yet to be seeded that Kane could guide in glorious rebellion. Somehow he convinced the Scrin to send him alongside Able in the veils of humans. Kane killed Able first, then started his work. Through the manipulation of world events, Kane would guide humanity to a force that would strike at the heart of the Scrin empire. Even Einstein's use of the Chronosphere did not stop his plans. The seed was coming and humanity needed to be ready when it did.
This is where things take a turn, I believe Kane intended to win the first war, gain control of Tiberium, and set the world on a path of war. Kane, however, was ok with losing as it set them on the path of victory regardless. Now again, this is head canon and likely would never be thought out this far by the developers. The first Tib war could be seen as Kane's way of preparing the world for the Traveler. Kane admits that they are a mystery, even to him, so it would make since to be a bit disjointed.
Next is the second Tib war; the planet is dying, without help all life will die and the foreman will have a dead planet to harvest. The humans need the Tacitus but they are yet to be ready for it, so Kane starts a new war. This leads them to Tratos, a mutant Kane likely made able to read the many languages inside the Tacitus. Once again, Kane need only let the world choose, defeat him and use the knowledge inside the Tacitus or fire the world altering missile and rob the Scrin of any advantage. Once again, it didn't matter.
Lastly, the last Tib war. GDI has Tiberium under control and is slowly taking their planet back, but they have cut military spending to a minimum. Should they "cure" the planet of Tiberium, they will wake the cult of Reaper and with military spending so low, the cult will wipe them all out. Kane can't allow this, they must fight on his terms. First, wake the sleeping GDI and get them back to who they were. Next, bring the Scrin in early; rob them of the advantages, introduce the world to them, and show them that Earth will not fall so easily. Millenia of scheming, Kane's plans are finally coming to fruition. Now Kane need only wait. While waiting, he gives Legion an unstoppable (to the Scrin) Cyborg army and helps Legion hack the Scrin Networks.
Kane has played the villain to save this world. Earth is ready, GDI and Nod, though at odds, are ready. The Scrin are coming and Kane has done all he can. The anger and fury of trillions of lives now rest with the humans.
I grew up with all of the C&C titles and i always rooted for kane. When ever he would survive and show up in the next iteration it would fill me with a sense of joy.
God: i curse you with immortality
Kane: wrong move, my dude
What makes him so special...
How believable he is...
How convincing he is...
HE IS THE MESSIAH! LONG LIVE THE BROTHERHOOD!
Bro this is the greatest video I've ever seen about c&c and its story! After watching this to the end I am now able to see your channel is clearly underrated
Thank you, I'm very glad you enjoyed it!
I just youtube'd "KANE LIVES IN DEATH!" due to some old nostalgic memories. Here you have prepared a feast for me. Thank you.
I pledge allegiance to the Brotherhood of NOD, its coat of arms - the tail of the scorpion, and its leader - the all-powerful and benevolent Kane, for his way is the righteous one and the only way to achieve divination. One vision, one purpose - technology of peace! Peace through power, in the name of Kane!
IN THE NAME OF KANE!!!
Don't mind me, just re-watching this again.
This is so cool. On my 3rd watch through.
Sometimes i feel like people underestimate Command And Conquer lore because of the campy cutscenes and the Red Alert series and Generals, because mainline Tiberium lore is actually really interesting and cool.
This video is amazing, thanks for the gathering all the knowledge behind NOD
Did anyone else take a long time to finish this due to looking up all of those art works they added Kane/NOD symbols into?
finally someone who can put this whole Caine's story in great format!
The cutscenes.. I'll never forget the cutscenes
Thank you so much, not only for this video but all the others you made on C&C, the great quality makes me confident that they'll be remembered for times to come. Peace Through Power brother
Thank you, that means a lot to hear! Glad you enjoyed them!
This was my favorite game on xbox 360, thousands of battles and hours played. Some of the coolest units and characters in gaming history.
never heard the full story this coherent and well presented, very nicely done !
I clicked this video just to take a brief look since i loved Command and Conquer on the PSX when i was a kid. Ended up watching the whole video being captured every second by how well this is made. Incredibly good job Sir!
As a life-long fan of Kane, I approve this.
Amazing content! Keep it up!
Awesome video! I've always loved this character but fell away from the series after life became too busy to play very many games. It was great seeing what happened after I stopped playing, so thank you very much for the upload. :)
Man I stumbled onto your channel somehow and this has been a nostalgic trip. Started off with your Dune video and then revisiting the story from these games takes me back. Thanks for your work.
Thank you so much, it really means a lot, and welcome!
these videos are really well made, you are probably one of the top youtubes, that mostly covers Command and Conquer, really good video, and thanks for your other work you do a great job.
Thank you, I'm very glad you enjoyed it!
@@NoStringsPrd it was posted on the OpenRA discord, if you ever get the chance please check the mod out, it has a good competitive scene, with tournaments that have cash prizes all proved by the community.
I know C&C lore can be a bit confusing but man do I love it!
I don't care who you are, 'Kane LIVES!' is one of, if not THE BEST, cutscene in gaming history
Editing of your videos are top notch! Great job.
The scrin reaction on arriving to earth was pretty neat. "Wait, the Tiberium didnt kill them? AND THEY HAVENT EVEN STOPPED FIGHTING EACH OTHER?!?!?"
Ah Kane, one of my favorite villains. Also one of the reasons I grew a goatee when I was capable of, because I remembered how awesome it looked on him.
That was just amazing , I did liked the whole travel throught time and how it all started and ended... or they didnt end..... Kane lives....
Goddamn thanks for another fantastic C&C lore video! Really making me want to go play C&C3 / KW again xD. You do a fantastic job of digging up information that even I hadn't found. I still have similar feelings to last time about skipping the c&c4 lore would have been really cool to have the complete picture in one spot but I completely understand why you would want to avoid that travesty completely. Thank you for keeping this fantastic series alive with your videos, and good luck with whatever you decide to do next!
Definetly love the presentation here. Everything felt very Command & Conquer ish short of actually doing uniqe bits with live action green screen
Wow, fantastic job! The Brotherhood has always been more interesting, from a story point of view, just because of all the grandiose plans and betrayals. I've always been GDI through and through, but Kane's definitely the beating heart of C&C. After all, every good GDI commander needs a fanatical Nod opponent to square off against >:D
Wow. This video, the imagery and the vocal tones, choice of wording, is absolutely captivating. Great work! And thanks for sharing :)
You know, I've just listened to this vid like a podcast before, and just today I noticed Alexa's trigger discipline while pulling that gun on Kane. What a fantastically done scene.
Amazing mini doc, on a well loved RTS character.
Thank you for making this
Simply amazing, this has become one of my favorite videos
on this platform since i started my experience here, over ten years ago. You really did an amazing job, and i can't wait for your next works.
I met that Kane dude in the Westwood cafeteria as a kid when my dad took me to "kid goes to work day". My jaw dropped.
Of course, I could not have planned for an ambush *BY MY OWN FORCES!!*
Just have to say, the acting in these games passed c&c 1 are very underrated
Years later and I’m still learning more about the *deep lore*
Hopefully one day we will get a PROPER, finisher.. I’m sure the entire fanbase disregards CNC4 as canon, and most disregard it’s existence entirely.
So making a new game set after the events of CNC3 would be possible.
One can hope I suppose
there is a game after CNC 3? Wow, I've never heard of such a thing. I hope it was faithful to the core gameplay of the series and followed up on the plot threads from the games that preceded it.
after two decades of playing all the tiberian games !!!! , this video is a real treasure ! thank you very much
Dude, your CnC stuff is fantastic. Please keep this up.
Very nicely done! Slick visuals, great editing and the Narration was on point!
In the name of Kane! This was an awesome watch for an old C&C Commander! Thank you!
I'm glad that you did not include the game that shall not be named...
Ah yes mario brothers
Or those goddamn mobile phone titles...
I love Joseph D. Kucan as Kane, he really has a magnetic presence.
Thank you sir for your great efforts. Love Westwood’s C&C series. The atmosphere and story line in the early games are really unique and unmatched!