Why Your Propagation FAILS ( Reason #1 LIGHT )
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2020
- Reasons why your propagations are rotting or not rooting. I did a small experiment to see what kind of effects light has on Pothos when propagating. I receive a lot of questions asking why your cuttings are not rooting. Or why the roots are rotting. There are a few other reasons I am also investigating and experimenting with but this ones main focus is on light and how it effects propagation.
As you can see, good consistent light makes a massive difference for your cuttings when it comes to healthy roots and new growth!
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What was a small hobby has turned into absolute obsession. I really don’t have the time to stress about these, daily. It really is like having a child.
isnt it nuts!
My pothos 😂
It takes up my whole shelf
❤️❤️ same here
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Adding a little fresh water every few days and adding that oxygen helps for water propagation too. Man I've killed a lot of water propagations but that has been a saving grace for me.
agreed! thats why that film that can form on top of old water can be so deadly
Exactly, always change water regularly. Stagnant water will kill most cuttings.
I just noticed that you dont miss when it comes to liking and leaving a reply on all the comments on your videos. Thank you for your videos and for appreciating your viewers!! Hope you get more subscribers!
Thanks! Yeah i try to! a lot of the viewers provide a lot of good feedback or additional tips so i enjoy interacting with them. Thanks for the kind words!
Short version: don't root anything in low light. Single-leaf ZZ took months to form a bulb, with a high root rot rate among the single leaves. One of my snake plant took 8 months to grow a single root due to low light.
yup! mine are getting like 15 hours a day of a strong 200 watt cob led light
This is very helpful advice. New subscriber❤️
This is exactly what I always wanted to do but was always too lazy! Thank you, more videos like this would be great!
More to come!
My mom has been failing miserably with propagating her pothos and she doesn't know why. I think I'm gonna get her a grow light. Thanks for the Christmas gift idea!
late reply but i hope things are going well for your mom!
Love this. Totally agree-and think this largely applies to all stages of aroid growth, not just cuttings. Light is key for good growth 👌🏻
Absolutely!
everything is key for growth. leibergs law of minimum says that a plant will only grow a big as the most limiting factor allows. you could give a plant all the light from the sun but if it lacked in the other areas it wouldent mean anything
that being said good light is important for plants :P
Honestly water propagation is by far the worst method for pothos. I've probably propagated over a hundred cuttings of my marble queen pothos by this point and I've never had a cutting abort in soil. They also grow much more vigorously much earlier compared to water. Plus you don't have to deal with transplant shock; they grow different kinds of roots in water and the plant can starve to death before it has a chance to adapt.
This has proven true in my experiments with most philodendrons, maranta, cane begonia, and ceropegia woodii. The only time soil prop didn't work was with a raphidaphora tetrasperma I was sold with no roots. After a few weeks no growth, but I'm gonna try your moss technique and see how that goes.
I know it looks cool to see the root growth but the plants do sooo much better and so much faster in soil to the point that it's my default for everything now.
yeah i dont like water either, this was an experiment focused on light so water was the best way to see the roots and examine the growth, Ill be more explicit in the future about that part!
So if I've already started propagating in water (been around 2 weeks) should I transfer to soil now or leave it for another 2 weeks because the roots are too weak?
@@TechplantChannel : "yeah i dont like water either." || Wait -- what? II In 2019, you presented two water-based propagation methods and labeled them "BEST Methods" [i.e. "How To Propagate Pothos Cuttings ( 2 BEST Methods)" at ua-cam.com/video/P5FfQ_nWrxo/v-deo.html] || Said video has gone viral and has been neither removed nor edited -- I trusted its instructions as road-tested and followed them just this week -- yet you say here that you "don't like" water methods. || Is your current, revised belief that water propagation does *not* represent a "BEST" method for your viewers to follow? || If so, I'd be grateful if you could direct me to your soil propagation video -- and also if you'd edit or tag the aforementioned water propagation video to make clear that you now "don't like ... water [methods]" and apparently no longer believe that water propagation methods are among the "BEST" ways to clone pothos. || Thanks in advance for considering this.
noneness same here! Can someone answer their question?
@@noneness I have the same question 😭
Your production quality, photography, dedication, and patience are all sublime. I hope you get to millions of subscribers.
Maybe one day! Thanks for watching, i appreciate the kind words
The most eye opening point of your numerious videos is that light is good for root propagation I haven't considered that in my attempts and will definitely start implementing that in my own attempts..
Thanks so much
Yeah I put everything under lights right away, seeds cuttings you name it!
You are the teacher we have been waiting for ,
No waffle
No Acting cute
Just really good info , xxxxxxxxxx
awesome thanks for the kind words!
I came here to say this exact same thing! Short, sweet, to the point, and useful - not many people on UA-cam seem to grasp how brevity is the key to communication. I’m SO OVER plant videos that are really just a vanity project so the UA-camr can sit there and do video selfies for 15 minutes 🙄 I don’t care how cute you are, I’m here for the damn plants! 😂
Alright, rant over. Thank you Techplant, you have become my new favorite plant tip channel since I discovered you!!
you should do an experiment with a dark colored vase vs the clear, and an espically warm area like above the fridge vs a normal area! Those are other things i've heard that effect the root growth but I haven't seen any experiments about it just people saying to do it.
Thanks for the idea! will do
idk if this helps, but i had a cute lil dark vase that i used and i hardly had any root growth (had it in there for atleast 2 weeks? maybe longer!) so i moved it into a glass jar and 2 days later i’m seeing growth! (this was with a string of hearts btw)
Very well done, it's a great comparison. Thank you for the time and effort. FWIW: near the end, that mister/sprayer you're using looks like a Flairosol unit. Febreze used to be sold as Febreze One in a Flairosol sprayer (branded clearly on the unit when the sprayer was removed from the bottle, not a knock-off). I was buying them for fireworks (light misting of black powder compositions) around 3 months before you posted this video (so near the beginning of Spring 2020). I've not been able to find them now that I'm into growing stuff, but I still have those from 2+ years ago. They're awesome. Just a helpful tip for anyone looking for a super-fine misting sprayer. Flairosol sprayers can be purchased still...just can't find the Febreze product with the sprayer (the Febreze product was cheaper to buy with the sprayer than the empty sprayers).
That was a fantastic clip! Actually made me feel so much more confident with my own propagations. Thank you 😊
Glad it was helpful! Good Luck!
Thanks for this. I love and tech about propagating. I have filled my classroom and home with plants. This is an excellent example of how the scientific process can be performed in everyday life to help understand the world around us. Way to be awesome and helpful!
very cool! I bet the kids love it! thanks for watching and sharing your story
You are amazing! I am so happy you have these videos and really help me feel happy that I can save plants that may potentially wither. You are a lifesaver ♥️
You are so welcome!
i just wanna say i love the content of your videos, really appreciate your experiments. Don't stop making this kind of videos
Glad you like them! I enjoy trying these too
I love how you get so technical and nerdy with plants. 😆Thanks for this experiment 🙏
My pleasure 😊
Great video. I’d love to see a side by side experiment with glass see thru vessels vs dark no light vessels and the effect on roots.
Great suggestion!
Thank you so much for this video! I am currently propagating pothos on an east facing window and the roots are sprouting pretty slowly so this information really helps! I also wanted to mention that some people think a dark environment is better for the roots to grow (I have never really believed that myself) and this experiment proves that to be wrong.
In my experience darkness does help rooting quickly but the key is to only darken the root area. I’ve have tremendous success rooting cuttings (even a leaf without stem or node) in a ceramic tight lipped vase in bright light. The leaves get the benefit of light and the roots progress way faster than those put in a clear container with bright light.
Excess light can cause bacteria to bloom in the water, which is why you should use a dark container. Or soil propagate, which will result in a healthier root system and more vigorous plant. Water propagation is probably the worst method by far 😅
tons of good info! I should have been clear that the "method" I used to propagate isnt ideal, but i did it to easily see root growth between low light and lots of light!
thank you all, it makes sense!
A good video , I tried rooting cuttings of Thai basil but failed many times until I came to this video. I tried putting my Thai basil cutting in water to a brighter spot, and it works. Thanks a lot for your video
I’m trying so hard but I only just got a job so I can finally afford to feed my plants light
Nice, there are some decent cheap grow lights out there, but beware of the ones that run on like USB phone chargers
@techplant do you have a video on growlights? Like the cheap ones or individual bulbs from home depot and such?
I got mine on Amazon I think for $25. Of course it’s not the best one out there but it’s a great light, my plants seem to benefit and it’s better than not having one. There a ton of comparable ones on there you should def look :)
Mine just died and I couldn’t find a way to revive it! Now at least I know how to avoid it in future.
sorry it died! good luck with your future cuttings i hope they grow well!
Glad to watched this video... now I have to move my Pothos to the brightest room in the house. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
I hope you see some great results, good luck!
Thanks a lot😍😍 now i know why my pothos dont grow fast!! People say it doesnt need much light !!! Fkn miss leaders 🤨🤨
Become a big fan of you recently lad, the subscribers will be flyin in soon you watch!
they sort of are now so thats really cool, thnks for watching!
I had the same feeling that light helps root plants and that's weird because many sites I've gone through say things like "keep cuttings in a cool low light place" I've lost a lot of snake plant cuttings this way. I put a couple in a sunny spot because it was the only spot left and they got roots so much sooner!
yeah the cool thing would make me nervous too! mine are always in a warm light place!
Great propagation insights! I initially thought too much light was not good. Good to see more light is better!
I have some more experiments on the way aswell for propagation, i think that warmth plays a big role too
I was debating on putting my cuttings in soil or not. Once quarantine hit they just kinda stayed in water... 😅 but now they're in soil and are doing great. I've never had any issues with pothos in water. It's my favorite method
yeah some people really have a hard time I think 50% of the people who fail its because their water parameters are bad
How was your soil mixture ?
@@Jays81305girl I just used the local brand at my local nursery
Thanks for the effort put into these long term experiement videos :)
You bet! They are fun to make!
I love this. I'm looking forward to root hormone video.
This video is really helpful. I have just put my cuttings under my grow light so they get strong roots.
nice!
Commenting to boost your chances with the algorithm. Such a shame this awesome channel doesn't get more exposure!
I appreciate that! its getting pretty good attention these days, much more than the past at least, Im thankful for your comments!
Love all of your videos!
Great explaining and clear footage.
Cheers 🖖🏾
Glad you like them! and thanks for the kind words
My piece of advice... When you're already at this stage of roots (1:45), you should transfer your plant to soil already as soon as possible. The longer you wait from this point onward will definitely be harder for your plant to live.
doing that would defeat the entire purpose of water propagation.
@@emilytustin4540 If you're planning to keep your cuttings in water for the rest of its life, then yes, it does defeat the entire purpose. But as shown in the end of the video, he did put the cuttings on a potted soil. That's why I said what I said.
@@emilytustin4540no it doesn't.
Thank you for doing the research!! I was always curious!!!
Any time!
Thank you for sharing this experimental video with us 😊
Thanks for watching!
Light is my downfall, pretty much why all my plants end up dying haha. Great video though! I like this content!
get grow lights! although they get my room cooking which sucks
Great stuff. But I think that temperature plays a most important role just as well. Maybe using a heat mat in cooler weather is a great idea.
yeap that will be video #2
From my experience, temperature is the biggest factor in successful propagating. More so than light. Keeping cuttings at or above 65F at all times is a better recipe for successful rooting.
I agree, thats another video im going to make and show the differences, its my main reason for hating window sills because in the winter its just a terrible place becuase its cold. and hardly any light
thank you. I would now transfer all my cuttings to places with bright light
Perfect!
What a terrific video! Thank you so much. Haha and here I thought my first two Pothos cuttings were doing so well with their growth but now I see how much better they could have done! At the end I noticed you covered the roots and the new vine growth with soil...will vines and leaves still continue to grow and just pop through the soil? I was always nervous to covering anything except the roots mainly because I was worried about blocking the light and stunting their growth? And I always use water propagation but I also prefer using Leca and those water roots are made for that environment. They all thrive in it 👊🏼🌱
they push on up through the soil, but if you do that try not to saturate the soil to much where they could accidentally rot
That's probably the problem with my pothos propagations... they just aren't doing anything and they're outside getting bright indirect east-south light from 5:30am - 8:15pm and nothing... I was going to try rooting hormone in the water to see if that would do anything for them. It's helped my fiddle leaf fig plant top that broke off about 3 months ago to throw off some decent roots finally.
I dont know where you live, but if the weather is still cool, being close to the cold window could also be slowing growth! Good luck with your propagations i hope they root quickly and thanks for watching!
Thank you for doing all these experiments!
Thanks for watching!
Subscribed because your channel is the first one I've seen that uses the scientific method and documents it well
Awesome, thank you!
Great videos! Is there a difference whether the roots also get the light or not? Of course the leaves will benefit from light, but are the roots different? I have a vague memory that you mentioned something about that in a different video. I suppose in a natural environment roots develop underground without being exposed to light. Another question: I've got no fancy growth lights. Do you think adding a couple of relatively intensive cool-white LED bulbs (e.g. 10W 6000K) would help at all? Like adding a little bit of extra light during winter. (I got them lying around, so why not use them if they would help.)
it would be awesome if you would do a similar experiment with the roots in darkness vs roots in light!
Cool video! Got a question: Do you normally just move cuttings with water roots into soil? Do they survive better that way? I tried the "transition" way by moving it to sphagnum moss and it rotted.
I go right to soil and i water right away but then once that original watering starts to dry i go to a more normal watering where i let it get dry first
My propagations seem to fail if there are too many leaves. I've noticed that more than 3 leaves on one cutting is not as successful as trying to propagate 1 or 2 leaves on a cutting.
In fact, I received a few pothos cuttings from a family member, and one of them had 6 leaves on it. Other cuttings thrived and rooted, but this one did not. Eventually one of the leaves started to die, so I cut that leaf off and split the remaining cutting in two, with 2 leaves on one, and 3 leaves on the other. It is currently rooting beautifully.
very interesting observations! Ill have to play around with this too now!
thank you so much. i'm so bad at keeping plants alive, so i'm hoping my pothos i just got will survive
good luck!
@@TechplantChannel why only one of my propagated plant/stems are growing roots ToT I had 6 and only 2 survived
But yes I got myself pothos, so far it's surviving
Thank you for this approach to find out the pros and cons while propagating, so it will succeed for all of us. Good work, waiting for the temperature or daily change of water or not summary. I like your videos and effort. Greetings from over the ocean 👋🏻
Much appreciated!
What about heat and how does that affect root growth? I love doing experiments like this and I found recently that my specimens died when we had a heat wave, but good sun. The lowlight specimens did better and survived, despite equal levels of heat. Dang it though, I hate killing them!
i think too much heat or too cold is bad, i wanna do an experiment about that soon
I hv Tried water propagtion for my adansonii for two weeks roots very long😍😍😍 thanks for your videos
What about fruit trees? Generally the advice I've seen is to start cuttings in filtered light or part shade. I think that's generally to reduce evaporation, but I'd be curious to see if lighting makes a difference.
this is all relative, and there are outliers. im trying to focus more on common tropical plants. the take away is for most plants, make sure they get the amount of light that they thrive in and nothing less
Do a few videos on variegated plants. Not common ones and not pothos because pothos is the easiest fail proof plant to propagate.
its hard because i need multiple cuttings like 10 and thats like 2k worth of plants to experiment with if we are talking albos
Again, thank you for this! A lot of us visual learners appreciate your videos! Lol thank you!
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching!
You remind me of Morty. This was nice. I'll definitely take my plants outside more. The windowsill I used was a south facing window and worse off a north facing window.
yeah i bet they would do great out in the sun, be careful tho, this is relative to the plants preference, so if its a low light plant dont throw it out into the sun it could get burned!
@@TechplantChannel thanks. Will find some dappled sunlight for it
I also find that using opaque jars helps.
interesting, ill have to try!
Once I used a mostly opaque straw to hold up a tomato plant that broke during a storm. I cut it open and used it like a cast around the stem. When I took it off, I was surprised to see root growth in the middle of the healing stem! Makes sense that roots like the dark I guess.
100% roots like the dark so I always use dark cups or vases
I’m using my grow lights for my props and also using a heat mat. I’m hoping this experiment makes them happy and root fast. 😊
I wish I could get my cuttings to behave like this, but my cuttings start to rot in water after only a few days :( I sterilize my tools, place them under bright artificial light and change the water if it begins to look dirty. But I only get to a few days before the stems begin to go dark brown and mushy, and the leaves die off. I've tried with clay pebbles (LECA) and they rot even faster. I've tried in perlite with the same issue but a few of my cuttings actually grew some small hair-like roots but after a while they rot too :( I know I'm taking my cuttings right with the minimum of one node and one leaf - I'm so giving up soon!
what kind of water are you using? tap water is not created equally and some geographic locations have terrible tap water. I would try some bottled spring water and see if that changes. Another question, is your home cold? when the plants are cold they grow way slower and will start to succumb to rot. lastly is your container goos necked (thin nexk) with out a lot of surface area the water cant get new oxygen into the water as the plant uses it and it will die
Try a wide mouthed container with bottle water in a warmish area with decent light
Try do side by side both in the grow light but one cup with Clonex solution.
will do!
I do put my cuttings in lower light and do wish for better results. All that light doesn't dry out the leaves? Very interesting. I'll tweek my method accordingly.
yeah they seemed fine to me! good luck
Loved the video, thank you ❤️
Glad you enjoyed it!
How did your cuttings start rooting so fast? Mine always take at least a month, it's so frustrating!!
Im looking into the reasons, my next experiment will be with temperature
In my experience, temperature plays a huge role in how fast roots form. My cuttings I had in my dinning room where it air conditioned and gets fairly cool about 65 degrees Fahrenheit took several weeks to root. But in my toasty kitchen that's at a pretty steady 74 degrees. I see roots within days. Both get the same amount of light as they both are facing the same direction. So, in my opinion, it has to be the temp difference.:):)
Good experiment. I never did the same but i grow pathos a lot in water. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching
I love your experiments 👍👍 but you must have a lot of pothos now ! 🤣🤣🤣 I'll watch the next ones
yeah each experiment results in another pot full lol
@@TechplantChannel 🤣🤣🤣
so which light would you recommend, not too spendy, your favorite?
When propagating Coleus Blumei, I have noticed that if it gets any direct sunlight during this process, the leaves become really limp/soft and slightly curl up.
I hypothesize that in this case, it's due to the sun light evaporating more water than the plant can draw from its very infant or non-existent roots.
What do you think about this, what should I do in this case? It's a very different plant of course, with much softer and thinner leaves.
interesting, mine did that too but eventually after like a month and a half roots formed and it survived, I would imagine that there are outliers in this experiment that would suffer
@@TechplantChannel it’s suggested to use healthy cuttings for this reason.
It's going to be 10:30 PM in my country but Iam excited
Thanks for staying up late!
@@TechplantChannel it's wort it, thank you for the video
It's 6:07 in Cardiff!
Does your propogation experiment apply to flower annuals as well? Glad I found your channel - its great!
I’ve had my pothos cutting in pretty well light and humidity for 3 weeks and I have not gotten any roots at all..... 😔☹️
Love this thank you for this video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video! Would love to see another experiment like this but with dirt. 🙂
Great suggestion!
Would you recommend watering cuttings that have rooted from the bottom or the top? I have my cuttings growing in an 8oz clear cups. I am currently watering them from the bottom and only let about the first two bottom inches of the dirt in the cup get saturated. So far they are doing pretty well but I am wondering if this is the best way to water or if i am not watering them enough. Once i notice that the soil is about to dry out I repeat the process.
Wow, this was great 👍🏼 info. Love it thank you. 💜🙋♀️
I have a pathos in water that has long roots,l with black at the end. Should I cut that part off of the roots or no? I can’t find any info on that.
like black and rotten or just dark
Hi! Question: Can I propagate a looonger branch with more leaves?
Amazing!! Great video.
Thank you! Cheers!
I don’t really have a huge space so I’m quite unsure if I should get a grow light. Does it really make such a huge difference? 🙂 Thanks!
i think so you can get a smaller panel if you dont have a lit of space. you do NOT need the giant light i was using
Oh okay. Thanks! Appreciate you taking time to reply 🙂
I don't have any direct sunlight I have to go to terrace for it and have ti change it's water there kinda stressful any help what can I do. ??
Very helpful video. Thank you for sharing
Glad it was helpful!
thanks for sharing useful information
Quick question, when transferring the grow light cuttings to soil, will they have a harder time adjusting once the amount of light is cut down to what a window lets in VS. the cuttings that have always had the amount of light the window let in? Thank you!
It should be fine, the sun is much brighter then most grow lights
@@TechplantChannel thank you!
this is a great vid!
You should have 3rd jar that is covered to determine whether light exposure to the roots is beneficial or not.
interesting ill have to try it
I have learned so much from you. :) thank you
Great experiment. Explains alot
Thank you! Cheers!
Humidity is a big factor
I will try and do an experiment about it!
Hi, we have a geranium and i want to take cuttings from it. It has lots of leaves but i cant see nodes below them, only nodes i see are at the bottom of my geranium but if i cut it from there, then mother plant will be so small and i dont want it.
If i cut it below a leaf (none of the leaves at the top has nodes) will it grow roots?
Does it have to be light from a grow light specifically or can I just put the jar of water/propagates in a nice sunny south facing window?
that will work too, but in the winter it will be much much harder
So my cuttings aren't rotting but the new leaves they put out have brown/dry damage on them?
I'm assuming it's not because of the lack of water since i water propagate. I don't put them directly next to the window but a few feet back so the light is indirect the majority of the time.
do you know what would be causing the brown on the new leaf?
sometimes its brown bits and others times its half of the leaf.
Question - am I able to take a cutting from a lavender plant now, put it under grow lights and then plant them in the spring? I was trying to get some larger lavender and some seed lavender to start a lavender hedge. I know it take time, just trying to see if i could double my efforts. Informative video - thanks a lot!
you can, but i would seek guides online to do this, I have 0 experience with lavender sorry!!
I transplanted it to some potting mix soil but I checked the root today and it fell right off! It was soggy and brown. I only watered it once when i put it in the soil so it wouldn’t dry out. What did I do wrong?
Great information. Thanks for sharing. I run the T8 lights. What is the distance from light to plant tops?
Probably 10 to 15inches
What soil mix do you use for pothos ? My cuttings are healthy in water but fail when I put them in soil
an interresting experiment would be store bought rooting hormone, compared to honey, cinnamon, and what other home remedies there are.
im doing rooting hormone vs no hormone, but this idea is great too! I will try it
Great video ,,I took some cuttings off my Brusmania plant back in September I had the cutting sitting in water in my garage and here we are almost in March and no roots yet so what am I doing wrong
is it cold?
Wow, Great video!
Thanks!
What about avocado cuttings, can you do a video on how to root avocado cuttings? I always thought light inhibits root growth. Well it does with some plants. That’s why when I propagate I use a dark coloured vase or cup with cotton wool so the rooting area doesn’t get light.
never tried avocado cuttings, but ill see what i can do
Great experiment. I wonder if low light plants need the extra light when propagating?
yeah it really depends on species. even though pothos can live in low light, they really thrive in places like the tropics when they can climb a big tree and get a bunch of light