How To - Adjust Clutch Pedal - FRS/86/BRZ
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2017
- Adjusting the pedal throw is super helpful to reduce the strange feel of the clutch. When removing the clutch return spring, this simple but effective adjustment changes the feel and engagement of the clutch.
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1,000,000 times thanks for this video. My FRS is way better to drive now. The only thing i would add is that rod you were twisting with your fingers... I couldn't get it to turn. So i had to use a pair of vice grips to get it to turn.
@@natew9970 interesting that it was difficult to turn. Maybe because these have gotten older? Either way, I’m glad the video helped!
I actually found that it was easier to take the cotter pin and the pivot pin out. I simply rotate the shaft with the U bracket then reinstall the pivot and cotter pin
For anyone reading the comments, this is the exact same system on the 08-14 WRX/STi. I had the factory clutch upgraded and it was bothering me how high the "bite" point was. Thanks!
Great info! Thank you!
@@RageFueled it’s actually the same on a 2015+ wrx/sti as well
I have a 2018 BRZ and after 2000 miles I still can’t shift smoothly from1-2. I ordered a softer spring replacement and I will adjust the clutch. Good video.
They make shift springs as well. I plan to order a set after I upgrade my clutch next month. There’s a transmission bushing as well. All of the above would most likely aid in better shifts.
Great videos about this modification. The clutch feel has been one of my biggest pet peeves about my FRS. I'm just so use to my mazdaspeed miata FM2 clutch and never skipping leg day. The assist spring MUST GO!
Michael Hein agreed. That spring was crap. I don’t want or need an assist for the clutch. I want to feel it engage.
Great explanation, nice to see a cool headed video instead of all the obnoxious ones out there. Be careful here, it's pretty easy to adjust it too much where it'll let go straight 1/2" off the floor.
Appreciate the comments! Fortunately, my father taught me to do things little by little. Test. Repeat. Never to go too far the first time. haha
Just did this modification and removed the clutch spring and wow, it feels like a completely different car. Finding the clutch bite point is not easier which I find strange, but the reduced travel makes shifting so much easier. The pedal also feels spongy, and feels like most other normal cars.
Mario Paul between these mods, the short shifter, heavy duty clutch, and lightweight flywheel it’s nothing like stock. I’m looking forward to replacing the shift springs too.
I put in an MTEC spring in the clutch pedal, much better.
Mine engages super high on the throw. I need to do this
Best video on this subject on the internet
Thank you! I am glad it helped!
good video. I too had the issue (like everyone else) with smooth take-offs and gear changes in this car. also the difficulty in getting 2nd gear. when you see the reviews for this car they all rave about how great the box is but anyone who lives with this car for even a short period of time feels like a gumby with shitty takeoffs at the lights and jerky spaz gear changing. I have driven manual cars for 20 years but felt like a learner in this car. I hadn't stalled a car in 20 years but when I got my 86 I stalled it about 3 or 4 times and I consider myself an above average to good driver - frustrating!!!
I will be adjusting my clutch pedal travel shortly thanks to your video but I did the following mods that assisted greatly as well.
I changed the stock transmission fluid to Penrite GL5 and added Penrite Shift-Eze which improved the 2nd gear selection - didn't seem to take as long to settle down when cold. I installed the MTEC clutch spring which helped a lot with pedal feel. the MTEC shifter springs which makes the whole shift gate feel better, more positive, and assisted with further smoothing out changes into 2nd gear. I have put in the Whiteline positive shift kit which, like the shifter springs, has made a big improvement in selection across the box especially 2nd gear. finally the Whiteline differential mount cradle insert. I have gotten rid of most of the slop out of the driveline. there is a very small increase in gearbox noise in the cabin that unless you are a car nut you would not notice - my wife can tell no difference. there is still a very slight hesitation going into second gear when it's cold but this disappears very quickly indeed i.e. in one to two minutes.
with all these mods I now have a gear change experience that is streets ahead of where it was stock. it's now positive, smooth and snickety snick goodness all through the rev range when driving like grandma or Fangio. I cannot recommend all of these mods highly enough. the clutch pedal adjustment which you have done might just be the icing on the cake.
Peter thank you for the in depth comment. I agree completely with the stock shift system. I learned to drive on tractors and small dump trucks. Drove them for about 15 years or so. This was harder to drive and feel. Between removing the assist spring, adjusting the pedal, using Motel gear oil, and a new clutch/LW flywheel, it’s a different car. After your recommendation I will move the shift springs and bushings higher on my list. I’m glad you enjoy your car for what it is! They’re an excellent chassis and drive so good.
How much better is the Pennite than Motul? I'm running Motul on my "18 BRZ and 2nd gear is a lot smoother now.
@@saulespino2510 I haven't tried the Motul in mine - just replaced the factory filled stuff with Penrite. Keen to give the Motul a try though. I have done the clutch pedal adjustment and I am very happy with my whole setup now.
What gives better feel removing clutch pedal spring or replacing with m tech spring?
@@anthonymoy4471 I haven't tried it with removing the clutch spring completely
Fantastic video dude, you could not have made the video clearer unlike that other one where the camera is shaking like a mofo. Can't wait to do this, just need to take that damn spring out first.
Mario Paul glad it could help!!
It's a Toyota transmission(made by-Aisin co) .. all depends if you have a manual or automatic. The Manual is the Toyota J160 (Aisin AZ6)- used in rx8, Lexus IS, S15 Silvia and Miata mx5 ( slightly changed for the brz/frs)
The automatic version is the Toyota A960E (- used in IS250 and GS300 Lexus vehicles.
Sebastian Arcila I knew it was a Toyota trans but didn’t know for sure what all it was used on. Thanks for clarifying
Nah dude it’s a TL70
Great video! How did you make the mesh of the clutch and gas pedal a little softer?
The mesh softer? My clutch is a lot stiffer than stock. I removed the assist spring and it has a heavy full face clutch in it.
Just did spring delete plus adjust. Thanks.
Pedal travel is shorter. Need to get use to it
I’m so glad the video was helpful! Make sure the clutch isn’t dragging and that it’s disengaging all the way.
I recently purchased a BRZ and just recently figured out the solution to the 1st to 2nd gear problem. Looking to modify the clutch now and still trying to figure out heel-toe downshifts from 3rd to 2nd. Great vid, helped me realize it's not just me having these problems with the car.
Max Suciu I’m hoping replacing my clutch will help. It’s been worn since I got the car but has gotten really bad. It has 70,000 miles on the stock clutch. The other previous owners were young and I expect they learned manual cars in it.
thank you for your help
mister fiero you’re welcome!
Great vid bro!
Michael Dillard thank you! If they help anybody, they were a success.
This makes u press the peddle down less but the distance of lifting up to biting point will be same?
Basically yes
Do you have to remove the assist spring as well when doing this, or can you just adjust the pedal without having any complications?
I do not believe so. You should be able to adjust the clutch with the spring in place.
My clutch seems to be almost to the floor, could I I adjust the opposite to raise the pedal so it's not too pressed in?
I would think so yes. Unless your clutch is too worn out. Just because it isn’t slipping doesn’t mean it isn’t worn out. Make sure you have slack in the pedal though so it doesn’t ride the TOB
my 95 Civic got a new clutch OE type from Exedy and it bites high too. Thought it was odd but the tech said the bite point is stock he did not make any changes.
Did it get better with wear and usage?
@@RageFueledI've had about 1k miles on the new clutch, bite point has not changed. I may adjust it down.
Does this work if I have the mtec clutch spring installed? Or do I have to remove the clutch spring before doing this mod?
I believe you can still do this with or without the clutch assist spring.
@@RageFueled thank you for the reply.
xbone 89 no problem!
does this work the same way for a sti as well1??
I am unsure to be honest with you.
@@RageFueled turns out it is I adjusted it the other day same thing with a forester 6 speed
@@watch6058 awesome. Glad it worked out!
Did you ever experience any long term problems with this?
I have not had a single negative effect from this.
Hey man, I cannot get that rod to twist in, I don’t know why. Super frustrating. Any ideas?
Did you loosen the jam nut? I know that’s a stupid question but first thing to check is the simplest.
@@RageFueled I did yes. That would be the 12 mm nut on the rod right? I’m not sure if I’m missing something else but it seems like I’m doing it all right, damn rod just won’t turn
@@cyrusstites4847 I found that if you add some pressure to the actual clutch peddle itself, the rod is then able to turn. I ran into this myself on my 2018 wrx
Just wondering what way to turn the master cylinder rod to lower the pedal?
If memory serves, you turn it clockwise and screw it in.
@@RageFueled ok perfect! Thanks for the quick response man!! Gonna try it on my 2017 wrx sti. The clutch is probably fairly worn but anything to lower the engagement point lol feels weird having to release the clutch so much to get the car going
@@247jeffmarshall no worries. Let me know how it goes.
@@RageFueled also just wondering the 3/8” of play. Is that play in the pedal before it meets restistance? Sorry for the million questions lol
@@247jeffmarshall correct. You don’t want the pedal to be too tight or it could essentially “ride” the clutch.
You remove the spring and also adjusted the clutch pedal b/c I want to do this to my car people say to remove the spring and it will feel better
Removing the spring made the biggest difference but adjusting the pedal really made the spring removal that much better. The clutch feels like you would expect.
Rage Fueled does removing the spring affect anything bad ? and thanks I’ll be doing this mod soon to my 86
Not a thing. Just gives the clutch less of an artificial feel and more stiffness.
Rage Fueled going to do this today thanks bro great video this is going to help a lot
You're welcome. Good luck!
I shift about 3.5k to 4k and the car likes it so much better. It bogs when I shift under 3k
Rubbersidedown2 it’s the best thing ever.
That squeaky noise sounds like your TOB is getting worn
My TOB is def getting worn but that squeak ended up being the pivot point. I greased it and it’s gone away. When it’s really cold and has been sitting, the bearing does squeal a little. The clutch needs replaced anyway so I’ll fix then when the time come.
Gotcha. And thanks for the video. Will reference it when I do my adjustment!
Ricardo Lo my pleasure. I hope it’s useful.