@@nabeel.shaikh its came from sanskrit word sindhu represent the people who lives beyond indus river whi has different cultures, tradition and religion from Persian
@@soheil527 india is doing decent with 6% of annual growth and lifted 45 crore people out of poverty in the last 15 years, enough food stock with $550 billion of foreign reserves, $80 billion of fdi every year. It's neither great nor bad.
Mr.Peerzada,For your kind information "Delhi Sultunate" is an entire chapter in class 7th and 9th NCERT book in India. Pls dont generalise everything. Of the history that I read in my school,a majority of that was Mugals and Islam. I am proud that Indian historians has done a justice to teach and reflect the real history of our land and not the history of a religion,like yours and neither our text books teach that Islam is your enemy
The guy bought one book and from that he concluded that the Delhi Sultanate does not have mentions. Moreover, its very likely that he's lying because nobody buys textbooks as a casual read for their children. It's ridiculous. Secondly, I must confess that the Delhi Sultanate had very little mentions in my ICSE books however I have been told that this has been the case since 1947. Probably done to hide the attrocities of Muslim rulers.
@@adityajoshi1586 That's correct. Because Delhi Sultanate was basically a gang of Muslims going about looting and pillaging, destroying in every corner of the Indian subcontinent, not any real "rule" in any sense. And the gang headmasters comprised of 40 "high bred" Turks. Later on, around year 1400, Taimur Lang invaded Northern India giving the excuse that the Delhi rulers were not "Muslim" enough and thereafter a bunch of Pathans were in Delhi. It's actually dubbed as "Delhi Sultanate" by Western historians, they didn't really call them as such.
I am a born in a Christian family but I consider myself a hindu by culture and anccestry and I am saying this. Modi will become the tallest leader in Indian history. He will lead India towards its destiny of becoming a superpower. In the meantime Pakistanis can keep crying.
The so called Pakistani professor has said that the Modi years of rule will prove tragic for India,however so far it has proved tragic for Pakistan,with Pakistani totally ruined financially and becoming an international basket case.
u are living la la land What Modi he is using pegasus to control the whole country and use hindusm idealody no dear dont start!!!!!!!!!!!!! dont get twist i dont feel sorry muslim in india becouse they chose to stay 1947 and there for dont complain about bjp or hindusim india is for hindu there they get used to it the abused,
@@Sobanhassan1761 - really?? You guys were doing fine under IK? OK!!! Pray enlighten us as to what you think will be the repurcusions of Modi for India?? I have aksed this to a number Pakistani's. No one has any real answers. That leads me to believe that it is more of a hope that Modi turns bad for IN than a reality. It is however a reality that Modi is bad for PK. Unlike Congress - Modi he does not have to deal with a Muslim vote bank and hence does not have to appease the Muslims. And so he can kick PK's butt at will with surgical strikes and Balakhots and Bramhos missiles and abrogate Kashmir 370 - with PK being totally helpless to do anything about it. That is the real reason that Muslims in IN and Pakistanis hate him. 🙂
@@ShyamKumar-zb2mw I normally do not engage in serious discussions with Indians and deal with them in language they understand but today I will make an exception. I hope you will try to match my level of discourse and conduct yourself sincerely. Let's answer your question. India is union of multiple ethnicities with a large contingent of non-Hindus. To maintain this arrangement, India conducted itself as secular democracy. With the rise of ultra right wing party in BJP and a leader in Modi, this arrangement is in danger. This will inevitably weaken the fabric of Indian society as millions of minorities become alienated. We are already observing the effects of it Indian streets i.e public lynchings, Dehli riots and so on. You, like other Indians is under the spell of propaganda consistently disseminated by your agenda driven media. As a Pakistani, I want Modi to remain in power for a long time. He tried one Balakot and was replied in such a manner the very next day that his country became a global laughing stock ! Modi has infact done less harm to Pakistan than congress leaders. Nehru took Kashmir, Indhira dimembered us. I can go on and on but that's enough for today.
I have heard the whole discussion, I did not understand this guy at all. When he started talking about Pakistan, he could not tell what is the right kind of attitude about Pakistan. Pakistan was created for some purpose, we know it, we do not know it, he did not tell us When he started talking about history, after finishing half the talk, he came back to form history When he started talking about India, leaving the talk of India incomplete, then he went to America, Europe. brother, I did not expect this from you, it is normal that you discuss there is any knowledge, today you have wasted time in the this way.
Yes, unfortunately he is old. I found myself shouting at the tv at one point. He moved from subject to subject without finishing the topic and I don't think Mr. Pirzada helped with that either. I don't know why people of that generation didn't understand this and you can see that he knows the facts behind it but why don't they come out and say clearly that WE should have been called India not Pakistan. The Indus flows through Pakistan not what they call India. This is a deeper topic but this basic fact and all it's implications, you would think people would have explored thoroughly by now. He is the only person I think I've ever heard get close to that point... but then he just moved on
Yeah and he topped their Civil Services Exam. Rather than sticking to one topic and explaining it he just jumped from one to another . Could have done better.
Sikhs also go to Hindu temples. That doesn’t mean they are more similar to us than you. The only thing that was the cause was Pakistan’s crisis of having to be defined as “NOT India”, leading to having no identity of its own, till date, at all.
@@abhishekmhatre1554 it is easy to resist those who do not behead you for resisting them . Go to an Islamic nation and resist them , then I will respect you .
NEHRU suits more to Pakistan's narratives of today than India actually, because he gave the reason for Pakistan today to remain United with the KASHMIR dream, but now the dream is shattered completely , so it is obvious Modi to become Devil for each & every Pakistani. Modi is an elected leader with massive mandate for consecutive 2nd term to take India as one of the Global leader today with Economy & Military might .
35:45 Don't think Unification is possible after 75 yrs We are Definitely now Two Distinct Systems, Mentality and Intellect. Which is now growing more and more apart
@@sannansaleem9176 if india wanted akhand bharat then it could have captured Bangladesh in 71. Indian troops were in Dhaka when 93000 pakistani soldiers surrendered.
@@sannansaleem9176 Akhand Bharat is just a concept that India was very powerful in the past and king Ashoka thousands of years back spread indian territories from Afghanistan to Burma. Today if u ask any indian he will say no to akhand bharat.
@@fandyanu11 India tried it's best to annex Bangladesh but that couldn't happen because of Pakistan American pilot who was in Pakistan that time also told that India couldn't annex them
While living in the US most of my life, I had heard of AA. And frankly, even after watching this, I wasn't too impressed by his disjointed and fragmented thoughts about various topics. One thing that bothered me about him is ,,, his life-long association with the most corrupt party PPP in the history of the country. How could he follow a juvenile like Bilawal and his despicable father? Is it because he was jailed by Zia? Or Zia hanged Bhutto? If his loyalty to PPP is based on such individualistic affinity, then I have no regard for his pseudo-intellect either. Someone commented that due to his age, he does not want to make waves. C'mon.. right is right and he needs to denounce what the PPP is doing in Sind and Karachi.
my simple argument on PPP is - if Bilawal is so great of a leader, how come Sindh is going backwards daily in comparison to rest of the country? i think AA has managed to get a clean image and during these interviews he gets caught out
Greetings from New Delhi..I agree with Aitzaz Ahsan that this 'mentality' should be wiped out....but can it happen when school text books in Pakistan portray Hindus as evil ? When a whole generation is being tutored as such where is the question of becoming friends.?
We have also read about Ashoka and Maratha etc. The fact is he's talking about primary school history book. You must have listened to him through Hindutva prism.
Pakistan is the land of the 85000 year old Mergargh civilization in Balochistan... Pakistan is the land of the 5000 year old Indus Valley civilization which was centred around Pakistans Indus River... Pakistan is the land of 4000 year old Ghandara Buddhist civilization.. Pakistan doesn't need anyone or anything to explain itself.... Its history alone is glorious enough.. If anything its the Indians that cannot explain India without Pakistan... Even their name India comes from our river Indus... Baki to choro.
There are 5 lacs madaras in India. Modi Government's Madarsa Policy : Aik Haath main Quran; Aik Haath main Computer. Madarsa Education is being mainstreamed. -Salary of Science or Maths Teacher, if appointed, is being paid by Modi Government. -Madarsa Infrastructure is being developed at State's Expense. - 5 Crores Scholarships are being given annually,by Modi Government to Madarsa Talibs.Half are reserved for girls. That is why Saudi Arabia, UAE Bahrain, Palestine and Afghanistan - all Islamic Countries have given, their countries Highest Civilian Award to 'RSS wala,Anti Muslim,Hindutava wala fascist Narendra Modi.
While I don't doubt your sources, but I would like to know which children history books you're talking about that mention 13th-16th century in only 3 pages. Because I've also read history books of NCERT and there is extensive focus on Mughal History as well as the history of Delhi Sultanate. Infact in CBSE board the entire class 7th history books which deals exclusively with the history of 12th Century (Arab Invasion of Sindh) till the 18th century ( coming of Europeans) had an entire chapter on Mughals and another on Delhi Sultanate, also these two are the only political actors that have been accorded this much space in the book. Infact, there is very little focus on Vedic Age in Ancient History books as well as history of North-Eastern region. While I do agree that people like Muhammad Ghazni aren't really shown in best of lights but all of them have been covered quite extensively. Also, I'm glad that Mr. Ahsan talked about electoral arithmetic of India though I don't think he gets India's electorate. The 'Hindu vote' is nowhere as homogenous as it is projected to be nor is the dominance of BJP is as ubiquitous as many get the impression of, there is caste divide, language divide, class divide, regionalism, and many other factors. I don't think you guys know this but back in 2017, BJP was really really close to being defeated in the Modi's home state of Gujarat because of Patel agitation and they won only through skin of their teeths. Also, the rise of strongman like Modi is because of many other factors aside from Hindutva (though that is also a major factor), these factors include a 10 year long rule by a PM who was treated as essentially a doormat by Sonia Gandhi (PM Manmohan Singh as an individual is still a very respected in India, not so with Gandhi's), failure of Caste based 'secular' parties to provide desired upliftment to their voters in Hindi belt (U.P., Bihar etc) and patronising of criminals by many regional parties, unpopularity of Gandhi's who have lost touch with the masses (though despite this Congress still commands a vote share of 20-22℅, though it's seat in the Parliament don't reflect it due to First Past The Post System). Infact, I would be really glad if you could make your Pakistani audience a bit more aware of India's democratic system because it seems almost every analyst in our northern neighborhood takes their knowledge of India's politics from BJP's UA-cam channel.
Adding to that your idea of Sikkhism and legend of Guru Nanak Dev ji 's story is wrong as well.I would rather doubt your sources coz find a lot of misleading facts.
Only “ sab ka saat sab ka Vikas “ will ensure the rise of our National pride & progress & the present government knows about this ( this will be evident from the events which will unfold as we near the General Elections! )
The failure of the scholars to understand Sikhs were from Hindu families, not Muslims! Sikhism was not a bridge between Hindus and Muslims, they were the warriors of Hindu families who fought with fanatic Mughals. Muslims of Pakistan were not descendants of Mughals but mostly who converted to Islam due to fear of Aurangzeb. Fanatic Muslims have destroyed the image of Islam. Mhd Pagamber himself was the icon of peace but the warriors of deserts killed him and then made him a messenger of Islam.
"If Hindu Raj does become a fact, it will, no doubt, be the greatest calamity for this country. No matter what the Hindus say. Hinduism is a menace to liberty, equality and fraternity. On that account it is incompatible with democracy. Hindu Raj must be prevented at any cost.” - Dr. BR Ambedkar, Architect of the Indian Constitution.
Pakistan was born because of ’ fear of Democracy.' They feared that under Hindu majority, Muslims will be descriminated against. But Pakistan was created with those areas of India, where Muslims were already in majority.They had no possibility of being discriminated against minority Hindus. The areas, where Muslims were in minority, were allowed to remain in India. The Muslims there, still suffer from the 'guilt' of partitioning Mother India. They are seen by Hindu majority,in India, as left over Pakistanis. Their fear was en-cashed by so called secular politic parties of India,which did symbolic appeasement and created muslim vote-banks for themselves. Rise of Hindutava is to correct this minority-majority imbalance. Now, the slogan of Modi is " Development for All, Appeasement for None. Or Sab ka Saath,Sabka Vikas and Sabka Vishwas."
What contradiction? Pakistani territory was never a part of India. Hindh and Sindh has been separate entities for thousands of years. Pakistan is part of Sindh and adjoining areas, never been part of Hindh. Actually it’s the RSS brainwashing of Indian media, RSS / BJP that has been feeding Hindus with hogwash for a while now.
@UCsIw6l9QSNWWA5ORIOkgqcg Converts ?? Fool, when will you see the truth and leave your backward religion. Caste system in Hinduism is the most backward, inhuman belief bereft of humanity. Yes, we are so happy and understand Verny well why our ancestors left that backward way of life. You too, should seek the truth and leave that backward religion. Being old doesn’t make it true.
Why do you Hindus watch and comment on our channels if you hate us so much. It’s obvious that Indians are scared of Pakistanis. They are in awe of us !!!
Anglos wanted to learn use of Islam as Weapon of Mass Destruction (WMD) against natives of Asia & Africa to keep medieval colonial world order intact. So they bred Khalifa E Lundoni Chiknah Jinah, Khalifa E Lootyani ConAngrez Mughal kaamRaid Bandit NoWheru-Gazi to create first ISIS (Islamic State of Indian Subcontinent). With that experience they could easily breed Khalifa Al BaghDaddy of ISIS of Levant.
The name "India" is a colonial invention. The British gave the name "India" because that's what the Roman's called the land. It's the same situation with "Iraq", "Syria", etc. (Ancient names with no context in the modern or even pre-modern era). I can only imagine how giddy the British Mapmakers were when naming these places. Perhaps they remembered childhood tales of the exotic East! What "India" means is "land of the Indus River". The Latin "India" is derived from the Greek "Indos", which all stem from the Persian word "Hind", if I'm not mistaken. So what is so controversial about Pakistan seceding from India? That's history. What I've always found funny is that the Indus river is somewhere like 90% within the borders of Pakistan. So if anything, Pakistan is the true India ;)
Absolutely right if 90% Indus river is in Pakistan then Pakistanis shouldn't feel ashamed being Indians rather adopting the Arabs, Persian and Turks thanks to the Ertugul drama?...lol
RSS is the most secular organization I have seen in life. In fact Congress is very communal they use riots to kill musalman after riote they shed flaud tears.
This uncle is so lost in his own world that he is unable to make anything even remotely a statement let alone forming convictions in self and living by them. Stupid guy! Over and above, the interviewer is poking at all possible temptations. Ridiculous.
That's the thing about older people. They were from different times that will always conflict with you. I am from Pakistan & I disagreed on a couple of dozens of points. But that's the point. We must listen & learn from them or else we are bound to repeat their mistakes...
Pashtuns and balochs are iranic people.. Punjabis and sindhis was indic people who changed their written script with nastaliq .. they thrownout sanskrit words and add Perso-arabic in it which also effect their culture so pakistan are now land of iranic people
When the matter of India comes for discussion neither you can spit nor you can swallow. This is exact position of Pakistani's. They know very well that they are not Arabs or Persians. They can not claim as Indian's. "Aadha titar aadha bater"... At the same time, Indian's should thanks people living in Indus basin for preventing foreigners attacks on them. Their sacrifice is supreme to the extent that they have changed the religion matching foreigners religion and diluted their enthusiasm to go deep inside India. Unfortunately, this fact never capitalized by Pakistani's.
He knew it as well. The only reason why he's not leaving them because he said himself that all his life he remained a part of that party now at this age if I change it, it would leave a bad impression on my life.
History of Pakistan ended with RSS BJP and Tragic for India. Indians don't fall into trap of Pakistani You Tube Channels, they'll mention India to garner more views from Indians and ultimately not only bash India, but Hindus as a whole community. They'll never discuss their own country and zillion problems it suffers with but will surely discuss India.
The answer was simple we are son of the soil. We are pakistani some of us are Muslims some are non Muslims. AA was afraid of political backlash from Mullahs that's why he was twisted a simple argument. We belongs to this land of ours for thousands of years from Harrapain period to this day.
Trump is in your list and I would agree but I think the list is incomplete without the Chinese Premier Xi and Russia's Putin. If compared, Trump would sound like an angel compared to Xi and Putin, and mostly because of the democratic culture in US, because, even if Trump wants to be like Putin, the system in place didn't let him to go to that extent.
Love from Gilgit to both the legends. I aim to produce intellect in Pakistan, that would defend Pakistan's truthful existence in the face of incessant Endian falsehood which keeps on outmaneuvering facts and figures, political realities and advocating disinformation. The day is not far away when Pakistan will outpace Endia in every capacity.
I saw the title on this video, and expected to hear more about Pakistan’s identity crisis. The discussion seems to be rather light on that topic, and more of a laundry list of Pakistani misperceptions about India, Modi and the RSS. Also, Aitzaz Ahsan’s theory about Pakistan being based on the Indus has been refuted by reputed historians from Pakistan like Ishtiaq Ahmed. I wish Peerzada had asked Ahsan to stick to the main topic of instead of having him talk about a bunch of different things, with the conversation eventually going nowhere. I expected a better interview. Looks for Pervez Hoodbhoy’s views on this topic on UA-cam. That man is a much better intellectual resource than Ahsan.
Nitin H Murakh when and how did Ishtiaq Ahmed debunk 9000 yrs old history of coterminous Pakistan....Go take a one way trip to Saraswati...If you can find it!!!
Sikhs joining pakistan???? Are you guys crazy? I don't expect that from aitzaz ahsan who knows history a bit.Secondly, all the muslim saint mazars in india has hindu muslim christians and sikhs devotees. inspite of BJP ruling india, overwhelming people of india are still secular. How can communal to the core pakistan judge us??
There are two words in Sanskrit "SwaTantra", "ParTantra. Trantra means system, Swa is ours, and Par is outsider's or others. The English meaning of the two words is Independence and Subservient respectively. Islamic idea for Indic people is PerTantra, or subservient.
@@satyam1529 What Modi he is using pegasus to control the whole country and use hindusm idealody no dear dont start!!!!!!!!!!!!! dont get twist i dont feel sorry muslim in india becouse they chose to stay 1947 and there for dont complain about bjp or hindusim
What Modi he is using pegasus to control the whole country and use hindusm idealody no dear dont start!!!!!!!!!!!!! dont get twist i dont feel sorry muslim in india becouse they chose to stay 1947 and there for dont complain about bjp or hindusim
This seems to be a totally confused and garbled interview. I am surprised that this man once topped the Pakistan civil exam. Further this man seems to know nothing about India.
Totally agree with you except on one thing.. You do see how he could clear pak civil services ! With such a blinkered and insulated version of history needed to be studied for the exams, no wonder he topped it but what's sad is that despite his self claimed attempts since (as he mentions in the interview) to grasp a truer version of history over the years, he still seems to be stuck in a vortex of confusion. I think that's what's happening with majority of these so called going grey in the hair pakistani "intellectuals" we see these days and it's painful to see their descent into further chaos and confusion in their quest for clarity. They still display a spectacular incomprehension of Indian society despite the geographical and cultural proximity. I guess we can never truly comprehend the extent of irreversible damage that toxic basic school level education does to a young mind in its formative years notwithstanding any later attempts to correct it.
@@shauryamalik8473 Actually, they are programmed in such way. What can you expect from a country who prints bad things about other religions in their school textbooks ? This qaum's leadership/establishment is Satanic. Their whole country is formed over a fake and fragile idea that Muslims and Non-Muslims can't live together. Pity, pity on these people.
@@memelord7551 Yea they still hide or blissfully ignore the fact or are ashamed of it that their quaid was a shia, drank scotch, ate pork and married a non Muslim.
This interview should have been taken when he wrote the Indus saga as this time of his age he is not as fluent as he was in the past. People who heard him 20 years ago know him better.
47:44 He is taking potshot at Modi ji for offering his respects at a temple, Unlike Imran who was seen waving to the crowd during his Haj and the Saudi guide had to tell him that they are not waving at him ( you are not that popular or well known) but making a gesture towards the black stone as if they are touching it from a distance, and by the way Imran is another self proclaimed history/geography buff who knows more about Uzbeks, Japan and Germany are connected by land bridge, more gems yet to come !!! Great insights from Imran and Ahasan. Do y'self a favor(ahsan), don't waste your time ~ 50 minutes watching this trash , absolute waste of time and resource.
LoL, that's the Godi media that u take in ten times a day. Imran Khan has been called in as a guest speaker several times while ur Modi is a butt of the joke in every western media outlet of a country u call ur new BFF...
@@Ghazanfierce What are you trying to say? Your response has no connection to my observations. Get you act together first, before shooting of rambling response like this.... just a friendly advice...
@@Ghazanfierce Typical Youthiya here. What's your rate ? 2Rs/comment ? Tell your masters in BaniGala to increase your 'salary' as inflation is increasing.
@@anjurkrishnan7831 a friendly advice in return, dont post BS on the internet and claim it's an intellectual observation. A trürd remains a türd. Ur comment was nothing short of a hate speech that we have been listening from past 70+ years now. "We're better, You're not" Don't expect anything less in return...
@Waqas Ghazanfar Anglos wanted to learn use of Islam as Weapon of Mass Destruction (WMD) against natives of Asia & Africa to keep medieval colonial world order intact. So they bred Khalifa E Lundoni Chiknah Jinah, Khalifa E Lootyani ConAngrez Mughal kaamRaid Bandit NoWheru-Gazi to create first ISIS (Islamic State of Indian Subcontinent). With that experience they could easily breed Khalifa Al BaghDaddy of ISIS of Levant.
I would add here about Sikhism. Though it is a different religion now but hindus who accepted Sikhism and became sikhs to protect the land. This chaddar and flower stories are famous for many legends, like kabir as well. Sikhism talks about this land. Guru nanak Dev ji was a Brahmin and Guru Gobind Singh Ji also wrote about Krishna and Ram. As per the Dasam Granth written by Guru Gobind Singh ji, He has mentioned his clan of Sodhi and how they are decendents of RAMA. The mantra given to Sikhs is VAHEGURU. When Guru Gobin Singh Ji declared Sikhs as separate from other Hindus, Many Hindus joined the new religion and are proud of it. Brahimans who joined Sikhi are today known as Bhatia, Batra etc (From Bhat), Guru ji also said that every Sikh should be a Kshatriya (warrior). Sikhs adopted Singh and Kaur as surname. Singh and Kaur Surname was used by Kshytriyas of North specially by Rajputs.
Pakistan has a deficit of current account as well as intellectuals 😂😂 Good luck GVS but intellectuals like these will destroy his credibility like Moeed Pirzada 😂😂😂
Pakistan is a Muslim country because the majority that populates it are Muslims. Minorities do not define a country. They are Pakistanis and our brothers. But of course they are non-Muslims. Pakistan is a new name but so is Afghanistan and many others like the United States of America. For Australia the old names were New Holland, New South Wales and Terra Australis. Khurasan once known in history is now almost gone extinct. Turkey is a new name. It is the liberal mind that tries to make things unnecessarily complex.
The most basic thing is, we have failed to recognise the difference between India the region, which is a historical status, and India as a nation, which is only a modern construct. If you are unable to differentiate between these two basic facts, all your arguments turn flat, and every discussion becomes boring. Because by failing to recognise this difference, every statement carries with it, a gaping hole.
There is serious lack of intellectual thought in Pakistan. This debate and your comments show that. And I won't blame you. It's kind of single monolithic monotheistic narrative that Pakistanis are fed with. Now coming back to India. Countries are modern construct. All of them. Important is idea of civilization. Idea of India has existed for ages. That's how even Arabs, Persians, Greeks and all other civilization have known it. They even gave it name Hind, which is also called Sindh in other dialects. We even accepted that over Bharat or Aryavart. That doesn't mean there were not sub kingdoms. That's even today in many Sovereigns. Idea of India is even beyond boundaries, where it not only tolerated different cultures but accepted them. There is reason Zoroastrian feel more secure in India than country of Origin Iran. Ahmedi feel more secure in India than Pakistan (country of origin) or even Sikhs or Shias. Yes when someone will challenge this idea of tolerance with my way or highway ideology (Izlam), there will be backlash. If 10% ashraf population of Pakistan want to call themselves Arab, Turk or Indus-ies, upto them. Keep searching for your identity for next 100 years. We have ours.
@@ab-ramjutt1710 you Indians live in a fantasy world. The intellectual debate in India is limited to creating a fantasy to satisfy your non-existent history. That's why you are unable to recognise reality, and history for it's historical facts. Leaving aside your dumbfounded statement, I'll take your example, the Greeks, Persians, and the Arabs have a single language, a unitary language is an essential element of identity. Even after 74 years of independence, India does not have a unitary language, because large regions of India do not accept Hindi as a national language, that's why India does not have a national language even today. Indian nation is a work in progress, that's why it is still in the process of unitary creation. The world is sick and tired of your lies. Give up, and be happy you have a country, just stop your fantasies. Your Fantasy arguments only make sense to other Indians, because you lot live in a fantasy world. The rest of the world, doesn't care, be happy with your country, but don't create silly fantasies based on lies.
@@ab-ramjutt1710 The word India is a cognate of the river Hind, Sindhu, Indos yet you Gangetics/Deccans have named your nation after a river which does not even flow through the mainland ROI, such is your identity crisis.
@@gangadeshmatakimaut4739 I don't know if you have managed to get geography classes in madarsas. Indus originates in India. Laddakh India is as much a mainland as Kanyakumari. Now coming back to name, we have thousands of years of history, 100s of Names for India. Even Indian constitution call India as Bharat. It happens with long living civilizations. Now that may be issue with some Pakistan or Pooistan, name which is as clueless and jinh was. You could have called it anything.. After all it has been in existence for 70 years. We don't even know if it will exist for another 70.
There is not much change in history text book, except a few additions like contribution of Maharana Pratap. Yours is wrong perception about Kashmir. No atrocities in Kashmir. Wrong assumption leads to wrong conclusions.
I would say it's a very shallow and superficial discussion. The subject is very interesting but no deep knowledge of it to guest. Here is an interesting fact for u guys - Sardar vallab bhai Patel banned the RSS in that time, and guest is saying sardar patel was a fundamentalist, that's pathetic. And yes RSS and BJP claiming his legacy but sardar Patel was not in a favour of that kind of state at all. Plz do some research.
Pakistani leaders and jinaha called nehru facist. 😂😂😂😂 Now Pakistanis are crying it's not nehru and Gandhi's India. Irony dies thausand death. They want facist government in India. 🥵🥵🥵
Aitzaz sahab's views informed an indian like me that most pakistanis have very little reading of indian history and culture. The confusion comes from ignorance. I pray and hope that you read up a bit more on ancient India.
Buffoons word is secular no need to discuss 50 mins Pakistan was created by a lawyer who did not know what to do it is like you won a factory in a court dispute but could or does not know to run the factory
The ambiguity about the creation of Pakistan and its identiy has ruined the entire region. Muslims in Malaysia or Indonesia or Bangladesh do not claim to be Arabs! Pakistan is lost its relevance and hence the the world is trying ways to ignore Pakistan and yet contain its misplaced Military importance
People of Indus Valley civilization effectively spoke in dravidian language... Whereas u speak Aryan language... Only dravidian language u guys speak is brahui which I doubt many in pakistan even know about it... So, the idea of u guys calling urself people of Indus is bit phony to hear... Excuse my rude language
With due respect to the guest , these were the most shallow series of arguments , this is wishful thinking , the Islamic argument from conservative side for Pakistani identify is far more convincing no matter how much unpleasing it sounds to a liberal mind
For thousands of years the Indian sub-continent has been a melting pot (i.e., anyone who came here, became 'Hindustani'), except, in the last 800 years of slavery - where invaders tried to change us. Now 75 years after independence from all invaders, we are rising, and once again going back to becoming the melting pot. We are 'bringing up' the oppressed people of the last 800 years!
Talk is about Pakistan, between two Pakistanis, for mainly Pakistanis, but in English language which most Pakistanis do not understand. I doubt any gora has any sort of interest listening to it.
I m no one to comment but u have very superficial understanding about(1) the identity of Pakistan if river drainage can be the reason of partition (2) we have rich curriculum of Islam & Muslim in our Academic nd no government can wipe it out coz these are the facts rather pak deleted their roots u should ask urself why there is south &North Korea South Sudan nd north Sudan even thr was north veitnam & south veitnam if there was west India as pak ur reasons were more concerete nd accepted
If this is the showcasing of Best minds of Pakistan, why to blame others for the present prevailing situation of Pakistan with "SELF DENIAL DNA", unwanted globally .
They are very good, not sure if best. However, Aitezaz has more of a apologetic attitude towards his Muslim identity. Though no doubt he's true son of the soil and has absolute right to hold his point of view. In the end, it's the majority that prevails upon individual as well as culture. Culture in itself is nothing, be it 5000 years old, it's the people who matter.
What the hell is he talking about, NCERT history books have dedicated chapters on Sultanate Period. Also the guest is selectively talking about Sikhs going to Khwaza Moinuddin Chisti Dargah. While millions of Hindus flock to several of Sikh Monuments especially Golden temple every year. So, Mr. Guest, thread of secularism runs across length & breadth of India which is non-existence in Pakistan.
Revealing discussion , looks like it is not Hindu fobia but INDIA fobia. The Indian leadership & 1.4 billion Indians will ensure that we will be among the top 3 nations in the world in the very near future .
I agree with some of his theories but I'm not very impressed by his arguments. He doesn't develop or prove them very well. Maybe he does a better job in his writings.
I'm also in kind of same line . Politics should be kept away from religion or vice versa as religion makes people emotional and decisions taken in emotion without being rational mostly leads to bad outcome. People in India will understand however most people don't think rationally , though they are literate but not exactly educated and what could be the implications of decisions they are taking. As long as Pakistan or Muslims are concerned, everyone whether be of any religion was oppressed as there were classes ,powerful almost always oppressed weak ones, rich always oppressed poor ones and you could get rich mostly through education which was not accessible to majority at that time.
The fact that he has struggled to identify himself & Pakistan during the whole course of the conversation tells everything about the “Artificial” Republic of Napakistan🇵🇰
30:20 you probably bought the wrong book then. The academic circles who are in charge writing these textbooks are deeply resistant to the idea of deleting muslim rulers and conquests from textbooks. Even academics who are pro-BJP, ask for a "fair" representation of those periods, not deletion. Therefore, whenever BJP govts ask textbooks to be republished in a way they fancy, academics simply refuse, forcing the govt to retreat. I think what might have happened with you is that you bought a book only covers that part of the curriculum. That's how the curriculum is divided in India between the grades- indus valley to guptas, guptas to delhi sultanate, delhi sultanate to 1857 and 1857 to independence. It's just convenient that way.
Like always obsessed with India. Let India go to hell. He bought a history books for his daughter & mentioned Gaznavi was not mentioned and made it RSS key sajis. When did you buy the book who wrote it. No information given. Like hit and run. The guest mentioned we were Muslim so we separated and couldn't explain his identify to the British lady. ISI chief Ashad Durani wrote in his book that his grandparents came from Afghanistan to Junagadh and only moved to Pakistan after partition. He wrote it was all india that time and thanking mother india for taking care of his family. In india 20cr + muslims are there, how many Hindu's do you have in Pakistan.
Mr Moeed Pirzada, you should interview Hassan Jaafer Zaidi, the author of "Pakistan Kaise Bana" and many books on history of Muslims, Pakistan and its nationalities in depth and detail written with shear scientific analysis. You will surely find him a grand academic, perhaps unparalleled at least in our national stock.
I feel that some of the Generals they have got are good. I heard General Tariq Khan , he is good with lot of clarity .Politicians are - so many of them who are clueless . Imran Khan is handsome and smart but honestly clueless on complicated issues but better than Rahul Gandhi . No personal offense please. It can be subjective as well.
I think Mrs. Palmer was a lady who lacked general knowledge only Arabs are not Muslims, what about all those Muslims who r living in different parts of this world, they identify themselves with the region they r in, if u r not an Arab or Indian u cease to exist, he should have simply answered that I am a Pakistani from South Asia region , why was he dumbfounded. I can share some my personal experience that we as a family love to travel and while traveling I have experienced the dilemma of mistaken identity, but I never keep quiet, firstly nobody has the right to confuse my identity, secondly I do not hold back myself and I give them a polite lesson of geography , at least they will not repeat it again with someone else.
@Vinamra Singhai , Happy Independence Day to our neighbors. Pakistan history is the Sub continent Muslim history , and if u want to trace it back it starts from the settlement of the Aryans at the banks of the river Sindh.
I am so disappointed to see such a shallow discussion on the pre and post 1947 Subcontinent. The way Aitezaz sahab eulogized Nehru and the upper caste Indian elite spoke of his ignorance of what Indian elite has done to the Muslims and lower caste Hindus. Moeed sahab, why is Pakistani liberal elite so hopelessly apologetic towards India? Why can’t they see that it was the hubris of Nehru and the INC which alienated Muslims and made them feel insecure that eventually lead to the liberation struggle of Muslims. In essence there is no difference between RSS and Nehru as both sought the dominance of Hindu Civilization on the world. Why do we forget that Kashmir conflict is an outcome of Nehru’s treachery and his chanakian character. Even Abul kalam Azaad said that Nehru and Patel were squarely to be blamed for “partition”. Azaad has written that Nehru would read Chanakya before going to bed.
It was India which occupied Kashmir to keep Pakistan off balance. Otherwise Quaid wanted peaceful coexistence with India. Remember, he gave the example of Canada-United States to describe the relationship he wanted between India and Pakistan. Even today if India wants peace then it must resolve Kashmir on the dialogue table.
Simply a horrible clip, a wastage of time and substantively hollow. I had much respect for Aitsaz Ahsen after reading some of his earlier writings though with much reservation. Now perhaps he is too weak to articulate better, and this clip is a public let down of this man. Unfortunately, Pakistani elites have been a total disappointment on the issue of their Islamic identity overshadowed by ill-advised secularism. Indian elites, by comparison, are extremely proud of their Hindu identity despite their shallow secular credentials ! If this continues Pakistan should just give up its claim on Kashmir, at least the further bleeding of innocent Pakistani lives can be stopped. Why should their lives be sacrificed to shore up a secular Pakistan ? And Kashmiris too would stand the chance of having better economic prospects in an equally, if not more, secular India ! What a stupid wastage of Muslim blood on either side of the Indo-Pak border, simply in pursuit of worthless secular projects ! Remember, it was a Hindu Bharat and not a Secular India which first welcomed Muslims to (south) India !
@Faris Ahmed Anglos wanted to learn use of Islam as Weapon of Mass Destruction (WMD) against natives of Asia & Africa to keep medieval colonial world order intact. So they bred Khalifa E Lundoni Chiknah Jinah, Khalifa E Lootyani ConAngrez Mughal kaamRaid Bandit NoWheru-Gazi to create first ISIS (Islamic State of Indian Subcontinent). With that experience they could easily breed Khalifa Al BaghDaddy of ISIS of Levant.
@lunar eclipse They cannot breed crusaders any longer, since they kept Church away from the loot and plunder pouring in from colonies (which they call secularism). But they use Vatican and Mafia queens like Sonia and Teresa. Islam is easy WMD. Let Islam/Taliban take over AfPak and destroy itself.
@@farishamid3277 How does India occupy J&K? Why does Quaid attack J&K? What was Direct Action Day that and killing close to 1 million people? He was also called Qatil-E-Azam. Under which rights Pakistan army is in J&K. Please provide the legal document.
ur first question with regard to Y didnt he join css services remained unanswered . aitzaz is retiring. second question about islamic state and muslim country too remained undefined or ill defined. this urge to stand alone and aloof from the majority accepted guidelines is intriguing , may b interesting too but ur css candidates will flunk if they write in exam what aitzaz says. Moeed ur interview with the General was way more catchy.
Dr. Sahab, you're doing exceptional journalism in Pakistan where all journalist r beating only lines. You're honestly providing us knowledge about this country. Sir, keep it up. It my request. Prof. Zulfiqar Khan
Anglos wanted to learn use of Islam as Weapon of Mass Destruction (WMD) against natives of Asia & Africa to keep medieval colonial world order intact. So they bred Khalifa E Lundoni Chiknah Jinah, Khalifa E Lootyani ConAngrez Mughal kaamRaid Bandit NoWheru-Gazi to create first ISIS (Islamic State of Indian Subcontinent). With that experience they could easily breed Khalifa Al BaghDaddy of ISIS of Levant.
U wanna know what is Pakistan's history. We were the rulers of Joint India before it was captured and brought under the British Crown. We knew living under the extremist Hindu rule will be a suicide (fresh proof is baked on daily basis by the endian extremist, in the open, without any repercussion), that's why we made an independent state & carved out Endia to make a Beautiful country Pakistan...
I think the seeds were sowed in nehru's india which bears results now and modi is claiming that. Well i wish you keep modi for atleast 20 more years 😂😂 I am fan of modi from Pakistan 🇵🇰
@@Wanderer975 You don't understand Indias history. India stopped being nehruvian state and brought reforms in 1992. Modi will win next election again. POK will come.
@@Wanderer975 lol.... nehru, Indira were communist leaning socialist. They Both nationalised lot of private company and banks. India got very poor. It's Narasimhan Rao and manmohan singh duo who leberised economy in 1991. Then rest Bajpai - congress, modi followed same path. Economy devlopment never comes overnight. It requires funding and promotions on education, industry and training. It's need 1 to 3 decades.
River might have been forbearer of culture in older times as means of transportation but as the means of transportation has changed and the world has become smaller- exchange of ideas and cultural artifacts has become easier , so river is no longer the conveyer of culture.
Sir... Many Civilisations Have Come (78 As Per Various Estimates)... Many Have Perished... Many Emperors Came, Many Vanquished... Many Super Powers Came... Only One Is Left Now... Yet May Be Since 2000 Odd Years The Populations Of India And China Are High... The Only Constants... Other Wise In A Dynamically Changing World... Ever Wondered Why...? Ask Yourself... Answer If Possible... Ask Back If Curious... All The Best...
Sir... Many Civilisations Have Come (78 As Per Various Estimates)... Many Have Perished... Many Emperors Came, Many Vanquished... Many Super Powers Came... Only One Is Left Now... Yet May Be Since 2000 Odd Years The Populations Of India And China Are High... The Only Constants... Other Wise In A Dynamically Changing World... Ever Wondered Why...? Ask Yourself... Answer If Possible... Ask Back If Curious... All The Best...
Anglos wanted to learn use of Islam as Weapon of Mass Destruction (WMD) against natives of Asia & Africa to keep medieval colonial world order intact. So they bred Khalifa E Lundoni Chiknah Jinah, Khalifa E Lootyani ConAngrez Mughal kaamRaid Bandit NoWheru-Gazi to create first ISIS (Islamic State of Indian Subcontinent). With that experience they could easily breed Khalifa Al BaghDaddy of ISIS of Levant.
No, I believe Bharat has a greater problem. It is like a split personality, at home it is Bharat, but in the outside world no one knows, Bharat, it is India, how do you explain this? Jekyll and Hyde? All split personalities? Pakistan was part of the subcontinent of Bhara., Which the Brits called, India. Where does Bharat stand without India. No one knows it. India is recognised around the world by Taj Mahal, not by Bharat.
does that matter? India is recognized for the binary numerical system, Panchatantra, yoga, numerical system, Hindutva, cuisine, dharmasastra/sutras, Indian classical dances, Indian music, cinema, diversity etc.
Very soon - we will make Taj a monument which will be known by its authentic history and to have been created by a horney mughal king who was responsible for the death of his wife - who died while delivering his 14th child. That horney king then - in memory of his dead wife - married the wife's younger sister. Also he was so negligent of his duties that his son took over the ruling of the kingdom.
The India word comes from the Indus River. Hind word comes from Sindh in Pakistan. These ppl are so confused 😭😭
@@nabeel.shaikh its came from sanskrit word sindhu represent the people who lives beyond indus river whi has different cultures, tradition and religion from Persian
@@pc-hyperzone526 cha be whatsapp kutte. hindu means kaala chor. only used by arbs and persians as slang
@@soheil527 kid go to school his is not for u
@@pc-hyperzone526 with 750 million under poverty and living on MNREGA RATIONS, your india is doing great
@@soheil527 india is doing decent with 6% of annual growth and lifted 45 crore people out of poverty in the last 15 years, enough food stock with $550 billion of foreign reserves, $80 billion of fdi every year. It's neither great nor bad.
Mr.Peerzada,For your kind information "Delhi Sultunate" is an entire chapter in class 7th and 9th NCERT book in India. Pls dont generalise everything. Of the history that I read in my school,a majority of that was Mugals and Islam. I am proud that Indian historians has done a justice to teach and reflect the real history of our land and not the history of a religion,like yours and neither our text books teach that Islam is your enemy
The guy bought one book and from that he concluded that the Delhi Sultanate does not have mentions. Moreover, its very likely that he's lying because nobody buys textbooks as a casual read for their children. It's ridiculous.
Secondly, I must confess that the Delhi Sultanate had very little mentions in my ICSE books however I have been told that this has been the case since 1947. Probably done to hide the attrocities of Muslim rulers.
@@adityajoshi1586 I studied in ICSE
And we had an entire chapter on Delhi Sultanate
Actually in both 7th and 8th grade
And me tions of Delhi Sultanate in 9 th standard
10th class was all about the Modern Indian History
I studied icse and i had to learn from babar until jehangir
@@adityajoshi1586
That's correct. Because Delhi Sultanate was basically a gang of Muslims going about looting and pillaging, destroying in every corner of the Indian subcontinent, not any real "rule" in any sense. And the gang headmasters comprised of 40 "high bred" Turks.
Later on, around year 1400, Taimur Lang invaded Northern India giving the excuse that the Delhi rulers were not "Muslim" enough and thereafter a bunch of Pathans were in Delhi.
It's actually dubbed as "Delhi Sultanate" by Western historians, they didn't really call them as such.
I am a born in a Christian family but I consider myself a hindu by culture and anccestry and I am saying this. Modi will become the tallest leader in Indian history. He will lead India towards its destiny of becoming a superpower. In the meantime Pakistanis can keep crying.
Superpower? 👍👌INDIA???? 👉🇮🇳🤭
FIRST GO AND GET YOUR LAND Bck from China Mr Superpower. Lol
@@sabtaingopinath9652 we will take back very soon and started working towards this , ASKAI CHIN + POK🇮🇳🙏👑
The so called Pakistani professor has said that the Modi years of rule will prove tragic for India,however so far it has proved tragic for Pakistan,with Pakistani totally ruined financially and becoming an international basket case.
u are living la la land What Modi he is using pegasus to control the whole country and use hindusm idealody no dear dont start!!!!!!!!!!!!! dont get twist i dont feel sorry muslim in india becouse they chose to stay 1947 and there for dont complain about bjp or hindusim india is for hindu there they get used to it the abused,
We were doing fine under Imran Khan till 3 months ago. India will certainly see reprecutions of Modi's rule in coming years.
@@Sobanhassan1761 what happened now Bhikari 🤡🖕🖕🤬
@@Sobanhassan1761 - really?? You guys were doing fine under IK? OK!!!
Pray enlighten us as to what you think will be the repurcusions of Modi for India??
I have aksed this to a number Pakistani's. No one has any real answers. That leads me to believe that it is more of a hope that Modi turns bad for IN than a reality.
It is however a reality that Modi is bad for PK.
Unlike Congress - Modi he does not have to deal with a Muslim vote bank and hence does not have to appease the Muslims. And so he can kick PK's butt at will with surgical strikes and Balakhots and Bramhos missiles and abrogate Kashmir 370 - with PK being totally helpless to do anything about it.
That is the real reason that Muslims in IN and Pakistanis hate him. 🙂
@@ShyamKumar-zb2mw I normally do not engage in serious discussions with Indians and deal with them in language they understand but today I will make an exception. I hope you will try to match my level of discourse and conduct yourself sincerely.
Let's answer your question. India is union of multiple ethnicities with a large contingent of non-Hindus. To maintain this arrangement, India conducted itself as secular democracy. With the rise of ultra right wing party in BJP and a leader in Modi, this arrangement is in danger. This will inevitably weaken the fabric of Indian society as millions of minorities become alienated. We are already observing the effects of it Indian streets i.e public lynchings, Dehli riots and so on.
You, like other Indians is under the spell of propaganda consistently disseminated by your agenda driven media. As a Pakistani, I want Modi to remain in power for a long time. He tried one Balakot and was replied in such a manner the very next day that his country became a global laughing stock ! Modi has infact done less harm to Pakistan than congress leaders. Nehru took Kashmir, Indhira dimembered us. I can go on and on but that's enough for today.
This is the level of intellectuals in Pakistan
😂😂😂
I have heard the whole discussion, I did not understand this guy at all.
When he started talking about Pakistan, he could not tell what is the right kind of attitude about Pakistan. Pakistan was created for some purpose, we know it, we do not know it, he did not tell us
When he started talking about history, after finishing half the talk, he came back to form history
When he started talking about India, leaving the talk of India incomplete, then he went to America, Europe.
brother, I did not expect this from you, it is normal that you discuss there is any knowledge, today you have wasted time in the this way.
Rightly tutored “identity Crisis”
doesn't even know what mahabharat is - probably meant akhand bharat - and these people are considered genius analysts in pak
Yes, unfortunately he is old. I found myself shouting at the tv at one point.
He moved from subject to subject without finishing the topic and I don't think Mr. Pirzada helped with that either.
I don't know why people of that generation didn't understand this and you can see that he knows the facts behind it but why don't they come out and say clearly that WE should have been called India not Pakistan. The Indus flows through Pakistan not what they call India.
This is a deeper topic but this basic fact and all it's implications, you would think people would have explored thoroughly by now. He is the only person I think I've ever heard get close to that point... but then he just moved on
Total waste of time.
Yeah and he topped their Civil Services Exam. Rather than sticking to one topic and explaining it he just jumped from one to another . Could have done better.
Sikhs also go to Hindu temples. That doesn’t mean they are more similar to us than you. The only thing that was the cause was Pakistan’s crisis of having to be defined as “NOT India”, leading to having no identity of its own, till date, at all.
So does many hindus who sometimes go to church or mosque
India is rediscovering her Hindu identity and asserting it .
The islamisation of Indian subcontinent will be resisted tooth and nail .
Which means India is basically becoming a Hindu version of Pakistan. Religious nationalism must be resisted, whether it's Hindu or Muslim.
Yes its not as much a discovery as it is an invention. Fodder to feed the herds.
@@abhishekmhatre1554 it is easy to resist those who do not behead you for resisting them .
Go to an Islamic nation and resist them , then I will respect you .
NEHRU suits more to Pakistan's narratives of today than India actually, because he gave the reason for Pakistan today to remain United with the KASHMIR dream, but now the dream is shattered completely , so it is obvious Modi to become Devil for each & every Pakistani. Modi is an elected leader with massive mandate for consecutive 2nd term to take India as one of the Global leader today with Economy & Military might .
You and like you live in Lala land.
35:45 Don't think Unification is possible after 75 yrs
We are Definitely now Two Distinct Systems, Mentality and Intellect. Which is now growing more and more apart
It's true that we are two different societies and indian concept of akhand bharat is a false concept.
@@sannansaleem9176 hard try.. Whatever might be your wishes, unification still not possible
@@sannansaleem9176 if india wanted akhand bharat then it could have captured Bangladesh in 71. Indian troops were in Dhaka when 93000 pakistani soldiers surrendered.
@@sannansaleem9176 Akhand Bharat is just a concept that India was very powerful in the past and king Ashoka thousands of years back spread indian territories from Afghanistan to Burma.
Today if u ask any indian he will say no to akhand bharat.
@@fandyanu11 India tried it's best to annex Bangladesh but that couldn't happen because of Pakistan American pilot who was in Pakistan that time also told that India couldn't annex them
Ninety nine million Kashmiris???
Sorry to say this, but it appears that age is fast catching up on Aitzaz sahab (also called senility)
While living in the US most of my life, I had heard of AA. And frankly, even after watching this, I wasn't too impressed by his disjointed and fragmented thoughts about various topics. One thing that bothered me about him is ,,, his life-long association with the most corrupt party PPP in the history of the country. How could he follow a juvenile like Bilawal and his despicable father? Is it because he was jailed by Zia? Or Zia hanged Bhutto? If his loyalty to PPP is based on such individualistic affinity, then I have no regard for his pseudo-intellect either. Someone commented that due to his age, he does not want to make waves. C'mon.. right is right and he needs to denounce what the PPP is doing in Sind and Karachi.
my simple argument on PPP is - if Bilawal is so great of a leader, how come Sindh is going backwards daily in comparison to rest of the country? i think AA has managed to get a clean image and during these interviews he gets caught out
PPP is the only leftist Marxist party in Pakistan despite what you might think of the party and how it governs it fits with his ideology
Greetings from New Delhi..I agree with Aitzaz Ahsan that this 'mentality' should be wiped out....but can it happen when school text books in Pakistan portray Hindus as evil ? When a whole generation is being tutored as such where is the question of becoming friends.?
You are totally wrong Mr Pirzada, we have read extensively about Delhi Sultanate and Ghori invasion. You must have bought some poorly written book.
We have also read about Ashoka and Maratha etc. The fact is he's talking about primary school history book. You must have listened to him through Hindutva prism.
Pakistan is the land of the 85000 year old Mergargh civilization in Balochistan...
Pakistan is the land of the 5000 year old Indus Valley civilization which was centred around Pakistans Indus River...
Pakistan is the land of 4000 year old Ghandara Buddhist civilization..
Pakistan doesn't need anyone or anything to explain itself.... Its history alone is glorious enough..
If anything its the Indians that cannot explain India without Pakistan... Even their name India comes from our river Indus... Baki to choro.
There are 5 lacs madaras in India.
Modi Government's Madarsa Policy : Aik Haath main Quran; Aik Haath main Computer.
Madarsa Education is being mainstreamed.
-Salary of Science or Maths Teacher, if appointed, is being paid by Modi Government.
-Madarsa Infrastructure is being developed at State's Expense.
- 5 Crores Scholarships are being given annually,by Modi Government to Madarsa Talibs.Half are reserved for girls.
That is why Saudi Arabia, UAE Bahrain, Palestine and Afghanistan - all Islamic Countries have given, their countries Highest Civilian Award to 'RSS wala,Anti Muslim,Hindutava wala fascist Narendra Modi.
@lunar eclipse Actually, they do both.
While I don't doubt your sources, but I would like to know which children history books you're talking about that mention 13th-16th century in only 3 pages. Because I've also read history books of NCERT and there is extensive focus on Mughal History as well as the history of Delhi Sultanate. Infact in CBSE board the entire class 7th history books which deals exclusively with the history of 12th Century (Arab Invasion of Sindh) till the 18th century ( coming of Europeans) had an entire chapter on Mughals and another on Delhi Sultanate, also these two are the only political actors that have been accorded this much space in the book. Infact, there is very little focus on Vedic Age in Ancient History books as well as history of North-Eastern region. While I do agree that people like Muhammad Ghazni aren't really shown in best of lights but all of them have been covered quite extensively.
Also, I'm glad that Mr. Ahsan talked about electoral arithmetic of India though I don't think he gets India's electorate. The 'Hindu vote' is nowhere as homogenous as it is projected to be nor is the dominance of BJP is as ubiquitous as many get the impression of, there is caste divide, language divide, class divide, regionalism, and many other factors. I don't think you guys know this but back in 2017, BJP was really really close to being defeated in the Modi's home state of Gujarat because of Patel agitation and they won only through skin of their teeths. Also, the rise of strongman like Modi is because of many other factors aside from Hindutva (though that is also a major factor), these factors include a 10 year long rule by a PM who was treated as essentially a doormat by Sonia Gandhi (PM Manmohan Singh as an individual is still a very respected in India, not so with Gandhi's), failure of Caste based 'secular' parties to provide desired upliftment to their voters in Hindi belt (U.P., Bihar etc) and patronising of criminals by many regional parties, unpopularity of Gandhi's who have lost touch with the masses (though despite this Congress still commands a vote share of 20-22℅, though it's seat in the Parliament don't reflect it due to First Past The Post System). Infact, I would be really glad if you could make your Pakistani audience a bit more aware of India's democratic system because it seems almost every analyst in our northern neighborhood takes their knowledge of India's politics from BJP's UA-cam channel.
Adding to that your idea of Sikkhism and legend of Guru Nanak Dev ji 's story is wrong as well.I would rather doubt your sources coz find a lot of misleading facts.
Only “ sab ka saat sab ka Vikas “ will ensure the rise of our National pride & progress & the present government knows about this ( this will be evident from the events which will unfold as we near the General Elections! )
sir.. Indus does not pass through Balochistan. How would they define themselves 'Indus people'?
The failure of the scholars to understand Sikhs were from Hindu families, not Muslims! Sikhism was not a bridge between Hindus and Muslims, they were the warriors of Hindu families who fought with fanatic Mughals. Muslims of Pakistan were not descendants of Mughals but mostly who converted to Islam due to fear of Aurangzeb. Fanatic Muslims have destroyed the image of Islam. Mhd Pagamber himself was the icon of peace but the warriors of deserts killed him and then made him a messenger of Islam.
"If Hindu Raj does become a fact, it will, no doubt, be the greatest calamity for this country. No matter what the Hindus say. Hinduism is a menace to liberty, equality and fraternity. On that account it is incompatible with democracy. Hindu Raj must be prevented at any cost.”
- Dr. BR Ambedkar, Architect of the Indian Constitution.
Muslims were conquerors of india fir 740 years. we dont need permission to convert to islam.
Pakistan was born because of ’ fear of Democracy.'
They feared that under Hindu majority, Muslims will be descriminated against.
But Pakistan was created with those areas of India, where Muslims were already in majority.They had no possibility of being discriminated against minority Hindus.
The areas, where Muslims were in minority, were allowed to remain in India. The Muslims there, still suffer from the 'guilt' of partitioning Mother India. They are seen by Hindu majority,in India, as left over Pakistanis.
Their fear was en-cashed by so called secular politic parties of India,which did symbolic appeasement and created muslim vote-banks for themselves.
Rise of Hindutava is to correct this minority-majority imbalance.
Now, the slogan of Modi is
" Development for All, Appeasement for None. Or
Sab ka Saath,Sabka Vikas and Sabka Vishwas."
do a google search on "Karachi /Lahore before 1971" and the main cities, it is the Sikh communities who has suffered more than us. 😢
100% true. Well said. Hindutva will correct old mistakes
Too many contradictions , Incoherent thoughts . Creates even more confusion than solving the earlier ones
What contradiction? Pakistani territory was never a part of India. Hindh and Sindh has been separate entities for thousands of years.
Pakistan is part of Sindh and adjoining areas, never been part of Hindh.
Actually it’s the RSS brainwashing of Indian media, RSS / BJP that has been feeding Hindus with hogwash for a while now.
@UCsIw6l9QSNWWA5ORIOkgqcg Converts ?? Fool, when will you see the truth and leave your backward religion. Caste system in Hinduism is the most backward, inhuman belief bereft of humanity.
Yes, we are so happy and understand Verny well why our ancestors left that backward way of life.
You too, should seek the truth and leave that backward religion. Being old doesn’t make it true.
Why do you Hindus watch and comment on our channels if you hate us so much. It’s obvious that Indians are scared of Pakistanis. They are in awe of us !!!
When you live with lies
@@bannedone3ice138 Ghanta tere......! Go and check how we feed you 93000 Army whom your Country was not ready to accept. Kasab belongs to you.
I don't see this confusion of identity of Pakistan going away anytime soon. But the earlier they accept the truth, better will be their future
This discussion will convince anyone that there is no fundamental difference between contemporary leftist and Islamic fundamentalist.
Bingo
Anglos wanted to learn use of Islam as Weapon of Mass Destruction (WMD) against natives of Asia & Africa to keep medieval colonial world order intact. So they bred Khalifa E Lundoni Chiknah Jinah, Khalifa E Lootyani ConAngrez Mughal kaamRaid Bandit NoWheru-Gazi to create first ISIS (Islamic State of Indian Subcontinent). With that experience they could easily breed Khalifa Al BaghDaddy of ISIS of Levant.
The name "India" is a colonial invention. The British gave the name "India" because that's what the Roman's called the land. It's the same situation with "Iraq", "Syria", etc. (Ancient names with no context in the modern or even pre-modern era). I can only imagine how giddy the British Mapmakers were when naming these places. Perhaps they remembered childhood tales of the exotic East! What "India" means is "land of the Indus River". The Latin "India" is derived from the Greek "Indos", which all stem from the Persian word "Hind", if I'm not mistaken. So what is so controversial about Pakistan seceding from India? That's history. What I've always found funny is that the Indus river is somewhere like 90% within the borders of Pakistan. So if anything, Pakistan is the true India ;)
Absolutely right if 90% Indus river is in Pakistan then Pakistanis shouldn't feel ashamed being Indians rather adopting the Arabs, Persian and Turks thanks to the Ertugul drama?...lol
U guys are Indian 😳
That is against Two Nation Theory, otherwise, you are right. On the top Pakistani doesn't want to represent Indian Culture.
RSS is the most secular organization I have seen in life. In fact Congress is very communal they use riots to kill musalman after riote they shed flaud tears.
Sikhs are closer to Hinduism nothing similar to islam
Read more books. Stop being a jerk
This uncle is so lost in his own world that he is unable to make anything even remotely a statement let alone forming convictions in self and living by them. Stupid guy!
Over and above, the interviewer is poking at all possible temptations. Ridiculous.
That's the thing about older people. They were from different times that will always conflict with you. I am from Pakistan & I disagreed on a couple of dozens of points.
But that's the point. We must listen & learn from them or else we are bound to repeat their mistakes...
Pashtuns and balochs are iranic people.. Punjabis and sindhis was indic people who changed their written script with nastaliq .. they thrownout sanskrit words and add Perso-arabic in it which also effect their culture so pakistan are now land of iranic people
No history in Pakistan before 712AD???....It was a barren land according to this so called genius? Funny guy! 😃😃😃
When the matter of India comes for discussion neither you can spit nor you can swallow. This is exact position of Pakistani's. They know very well that they are not Arabs or Persians. They can not claim as Indian's. "Aadha titar aadha bater"... At the same time, Indian's should thanks people living in Indus basin for preventing foreigners attacks on them. Their sacrifice is supreme to the extent that they have changed the religion matching foreigners religion and diluted their enthusiasm to go deep inside India. Unfortunately, this fact never capitalized by Pakistani's.
The only negative trait He has is his political affiliation.
He knew it as well. The only reason why he's not leaving them because he said himself that all his life he remained a part of that party now at this age if I change it, it would leave a bad impression on my life.
@@DiyarElshq when did he say that? can you provide some source?
@@DiyarElshq lame logic
History of Pakistan ended with RSS BJP and Tragic for India.
Indians don't fall into trap of Pakistani You Tube Channels, they'll mention India to garner more views from Indians and ultimately not only bash India, but Hindus as a whole community.
They'll never discuss their own country and zillion problems it suffers with but will surely discuss India.
The answer was simple we are son of the soil. We are pakistani some of us are Muslims some are non Muslims. AA was afraid of political backlash from Mullahs that's why he was twisted a simple argument. We belongs to this land of ours for thousands of years from Harrapain period to this day.
Trump is in your list and I would agree but I think the list is incomplete without the Chinese Premier Xi and Russia's Putin. If compared, Trump would sound like an angel compared to Xi and Putin, and mostly because of the democratic culture in US, because, even if Trump wants to be like Putin, the system in place didn't let him to go to that extent.
What is being discussed here is too deep conversation many madrasa chaps and red hat worshippers never understand. Kudos to you both sir.
lol so anyone who is calling this guy confused and contradictory must be madrassah people or red hat worshippers? tells about your own intellectual.
Love from Gilgit to both the legends.
I aim to produce intellect in Pakistan, that would defend Pakistan's truthful existence in the face of incessant Endian falsehood which keeps on outmaneuvering facts and figures, political realities and advocating disinformation. The day is not far away when Pakistan will outpace Endia in every capacity.
It will happen when we develop a culture of real education not the ratta and cheating culture that has taken hold.
Yup. Chinese colony.
😂😂😂....
Fact: not 1 chapter in history have been revised in Indian school books since 2014
I saw the title on this video, and expected to hear more about Pakistan’s identity crisis. The discussion seems to be rather light on that topic, and more of a laundry list of Pakistani misperceptions about India, Modi and the RSS. Also, Aitzaz Ahsan’s theory about Pakistan being based on the Indus has been refuted by reputed historians from Pakistan like Ishtiaq Ahmed. I wish Peerzada had asked Ahsan to stick to the main topic of instead of having him talk about a bunch of different things, with the conversation eventually going nowhere. I expected a better interview. Looks for Pervez Hoodbhoy’s views on this topic on UA-cam. That man is a much better intellectual resource than Ahsan.
Exactly, my thoughts. This was more of a casual conversation
Nitin H
Murakh when and how did Ishtiaq Ahmed debunk 9000 yrs old history of coterminous Pakistan....Go take a one way trip to Saraswati...If you can find it!!!
Sikhs joining pakistan???? Are you guys crazy? I don't expect that from aitzaz ahsan who knows history a bit.Secondly, all the muslim saint mazars in india has hindu muslim christians and sikhs devotees. inspite of BJP ruling india, overwhelming people of india are still secular. How can communal to the core pakistan judge us??
What type of interview it is ?
Thanks for filling up the vacuum of an English Channel in Pakistan.
There are two words in Sanskrit "SwaTantra", "ParTantra. Trantra means system, Swa is ours, and Par is outsider's or others. The English meaning of the two words is Independence and Subservient respectively. Islamic idea for Indic people is PerTantra, or subservient.
He is neither of the three. He is truly a confused person.
True. And Pakistan itself is Confused country and its people too.
@Junaid Aslam nice, keep up the good work
@@satyam1529 What Modi he is using pegasus to control the whole country and use hindusm idealody no dear dont start!!!!!!!!!!!!! dont get twist i dont feel sorry muslim in india becouse they chose to stay 1947 and there for dont complain about bjp or hindusim
What Modi he is using pegasus to control the whole country and use hindusm idealody no dear dont start!!!!!!!!!!!!! dont get twist i dont feel sorry muslim in india becouse they chose to stay 1947 and there for dont complain about bjp or hindusim
Loved it. I can watch these discussions all day and still won’t have my fill. Excellent job Dr. Pirzada. We need more of these discussions.
This seems to be a totally confused and garbled interview. I am surprised that this man once topped the Pakistan civil exam.
Further this man seems to know nothing about India.
Totally agree with you except on one thing.. You do see how he could clear pak civil services ! With such a blinkered and insulated version of history needed to be studied for the exams, no wonder he topped it but what's sad is that despite his self claimed attempts since (as he mentions in the interview) to grasp a truer version of history over the years, he still seems to be stuck in a vortex of confusion. I think that's what's happening with majority of these so called going grey in the hair pakistani "intellectuals" we see these days and it's painful to see their descent into further chaos and confusion in their quest for clarity. They still display a spectacular incomprehension of Indian society despite the geographical and cultural proximity. I guess we can never truly comprehend the extent of irreversible damage that toxic basic school level education does to a young mind in its formative years notwithstanding any later attempts to correct it.
He is right about india.
Only one thing i disagree is that india will ever recover from RSS.
@@shauryamalik8473 Actually, they are programmed in such way. What can you expect from a country who prints bad things about other religions in their school textbooks ?
This qaum's leadership/establishment is Satanic.
Their whole country is formed over a fake and fragile idea that Muslims and Non-Muslims can't live together. Pity, pity on these people.
@@memelord7551 Yea they still hide or blissfully ignore the fact or are ashamed of it that their quaid was a shia, drank scotch, ate pork and married a non Muslim.
@@AbdulSamad-jw6xq In short, Feudalism is still prevalent in Pak.
Why are you different you are confused you have Indian dna converted from Hindu it is simple why complicate
This interview should have been taken when he wrote the Indus saga as this time of his age he is not as fluent as he was in the past. People who heard him 20 years ago know him better.
True, he is clearly showing signs of early stage dementia.
47:44 He is taking potshot at Modi ji for offering his respects at a temple, Unlike Imran who was seen waving to the crowd during his Haj and the Saudi guide had to tell him that they are not waving at him ( you are not that popular or well known) but making a gesture towards the black stone as if they are touching it from a distance, and by the way Imran is another self proclaimed history/geography buff who knows more about Uzbeks, Japan and Germany are connected by land bridge, more gems yet to come !!! Great insights from Imran and Ahasan.
Do y'self a favor(ahsan), don't waste your time ~ 50 minutes watching this trash , absolute waste of time and resource.
LoL, that's the Godi media that u take in ten times a day.
Imran Khan has been called in as a guest speaker several times while ur Modi is a butt of the joke in every western media outlet of a country u call ur new BFF...
@@Ghazanfierce What are you trying to say? Your response has no connection to my observations. Get you act together first, before shooting of rambling response like this.... just a friendly advice...
@@Ghazanfierce Typical Youthiya here. What's your rate ? 2Rs/comment ? Tell your masters in BaniGala to increase your 'salary' as inflation is increasing.
@@anjurkrishnan7831 a friendly advice in return, dont post BS on the internet and claim it's an intellectual observation. A trürd remains a türd.
Ur comment was nothing short of a hate speech that we have been listening from past 70+ years now.
"We're better, You're not"
Don't expect anything less in return...
@Waqas Ghazanfar
Anglos wanted to learn use of Islam as Weapon of Mass Destruction (WMD) against natives of Asia & Africa to keep medieval colonial world order intact. So they bred Khalifa E Lundoni Chiknah Jinah, Khalifa E Lootyani ConAngrez Mughal kaamRaid Bandit NoWheru-Gazi to create first ISIS (Islamic State of Indian Subcontinent). With that experience they could easily breed Khalifa Al BaghDaddy of ISIS of Levant.
I still “liked” your program as it’s along the lines of “Sochta Pakistan” you hosted long long ago!
I would add here about Sikhism. Though it is a different religion now but hindus who accepted Sikhism and became sikhs to protect the land.
This chaddar and flower stories are famous for many legends, like kabir as well. Sikhism talks about this land. Guru nanak Dev ji was a Brahmin and Guru Gobind Singh Ji also wrote about Krishna and Ram.
As per the Dasam Granth written by Guru Gobind Singh ji, He has mentioned his clan of Sodhi and how they are decendents of RAMA.
The mantra given to Sikhs is VAHEGURU. When Guru Gobin Singh Ji declared Sikhs as separate from other Hindus, Many Hindus joined the new religion and are proud of it. Brahimans who joined Sikhi are today known as Bhatia, Batra etc (From Bhat),
Guru ji also said that every Sikh should be a Kshatriya (warrior). Sikhs adopted Singh and Kaur as surname. Singh and Kaur Surname was used by Kshytriyas of North specially by Rajputs.
that is why guru nank refused brahman janeu
Pakistan has a deficit of current account as well as intellectuals 😂😂
Good luck GVS but intellectuals like these will destroy his credibility like Moeed Pirzada 😂😂😂
Bhindu Tatti Khor obessed with Pakistan... 😂😂😂 😂😂😂
@@felicytatomaszewska pakistan is like real world bigg boss 😂😂😂
It would have been a far better interview if it had been taken in Urdu.
Pakistan is a Muslim country because the majority that populates it are Muslims. Minorities do not define a country. They are Pakistanis and our brothers. But of course they are non-Muslims. Pakistan is a new name but so is Afghanistan and many others like the United States of America. For Australia the old names were New Holland, New South Wales and Terra Australis. Khurasan once known in history is now almost gone extinct. Turkey is a new name. It is the liberal mind that tries to make things unnecessarily complex.
The most basic thing is, we have failed to recognise the difference between India the region, which is a historical status, and India as a nation, which is only a modern construct.
If you are unable to differentiate between these two basic facts, all your arguments turn flat, and every discussion becomes boring. Because by failing to recognise this difference, every statement carries with it, a gaping hole.
There is serious lack of intellectual thought in Pakistan. This debate and your comments show that. And I won't blame you. It's kind of single monolithic monotheistic narrative that Pakistanis are fed with. Now coming back to India.
Countries are modern construct. All of them. Important is idea of civilization. Idea of India has existed for ages. That's how even Arabs, Persians, Greeks and all other civilization have known it.
They even gave it name Hind, which is also called Sindh in other dialects. We even accepted that over Bharat or Aryavart.
That doesn't mean there were not sub kingdoms. That's even today in many Sovereigns.
Idea of India is even beyond boundaries, where it not only tolerated different cultures but accepted them. There is reason Zoroastrian feel more secure in India than country of Origin Iran. Ahmedi feel more secure in India than Pakistan (country of origin) or even Sikhs or Shias. Yes when someone will challenge this idea of tolerance with my way or highway ideology (Izlam), there will be backlash.
If 10% ashraf population of Pakistan want to call themselves Arab, Turk or Indus-ies, upto them. Keep searching for your identity for next 100 years. We have ours.
@@ab-ramjutt1710 you Indians live in a fantasy world. The intellectual debate in India is limited to creating a fantasy to satisfy your non-existent history. That's why you are unable to recognise reality, and history for it's historical facts.
Leaving aside your dumbfounded statement, I'll take your example, the Greeks, Persians, and the Arabs have a single language, a unitary language is an essential element of identity.
Even after 74 years of independence, India does not have a unitary language, because large regions of India do not accept Hindi as a national language, that's why India does not have a national language even today. Indian nation is a work in progress, that's why it is still in the process of unitary creation.
The world is sick and tired of your lies. Give up, and be happy you have a country, just stop your fantasies.
Your Fantasy arguments only make sense to other Indians, because you lot live in a fantasy world. The rest of the world, doesn't care, be happy with your country, but don't create silly fantasies based on lies.
@@ab-ramjutt1710 The word India is a cognate of the river Hind, Sindhu, Indos yet you Gangetics/Deccans have named your nation after a river which does not even flow through the mainland ROI, such is your identity crisis.
@@gangadeshmatakimaut4739 I don't know if you have managed to get geography classes in madarsas.
Indus originates in India. Laddakh India is as much a mainland as Kanyakumari.
Now coming back to name, we have thousands of years of history, 100s of Names for India. Even Indian constitution call India as Bharat. It happens with long living civilizations.
Now that may be issue with some Pakistan or Pooistan, name which is as clueless and jinh was. You could have called it anything.. After all it has been in existence for 70 years. We don't even know if it will exist for another 70.
@@ab-ramjutt1710 LOL, Murakh you are the one in dire need of geography and history lessons, walk away or I will debunk your nonsense!!!!
After decades of being questioned about his identity he still has to do Gymnastics to figure out his identity and he still comes up short!
There is not much change in history text book, except a few additions like contribution of Maharana Pratap. Yours is wrong perception about Kashmir. No atrocities in Kashmir. Wrong assumption leads to wrong conclusions.
I would say it's a very shallow and superficial discussion. The subject is very interesting but no deep knowledge of it to guest. Here is an interesting fact for u guys - Sardar vallab bhai Patel banned the RSS in that time, and guest is saying sardar patel was a fundamentalist, that's pathetic. And yes RSS and BJP claiming his legacy but sardar Patel was not in a favour of that kind of state at all. Plz do some research.
Patel an a*shole. That i agree with you.
@@Mj-es6os I didn't say that BTW....I respect him a lot.
Pakistani leaders and jinaha called nehru facist. 😂😂😂😂
Now Pakistanis are crying it's not nehru and Gandhi's India.
Irony dies thausand death. They want facist government in India. 🥵🥵🥵
@@sitarampradhan8488 yeah... irony
@@Kanika902 i am sure you do. But that doeant mean he is not an as*hole. That we both agree on.
Overwhelming reasoning, and compulsive presentation. Light of a generation
You are a FOOL CONFUSED MAN
Aitzaz sahab's views informed an indian like me that most pakistanis have very little reading of indian history and culture. The confusion comes from ignorance. I pray and hope that you read up a bit more on ancient India.
Buffoons word is secular no need to discuss 50 mins Pakistan was created by a lawyer who did not know what to do it is like you won a factory in a court dispute but could or does not know to run the factory
I second that. Love to hear your programs. Please make more English programs like this one.
The ambiguity about the creation of Pakistan and its identiy has ruined the entire region. Muslims in Malaysia or Indonesia or Bangladesh do not claim to be Arabs! Pakistan is lost its relevance and hence the the world is trying ways to ignore Pakistan and yet contain its misplaced Military importance
People of Indus Valley civilization effectively spoke in dravidian language...
Whereas u speak Aryan language...
Only dravidian language u guys speak is brahui which I doubt many in pakistan even know about it...
So, the idea of u guys calling urself people of Indus is bit phony to hear...
Excuse my rude language
With due respect to the guest , these were the most shallow series of arguments , this is wishful thinking , the Islamic argument from conservative side for Pakistani identify is far more convincing no matter how much unpleasing it sounds to a liberal mind
For thousands of years the Indian sub-continent has been a melting pot (i.e., anyone who came here, became 'Hindustani'), except, in the last 800 years of slavery - where invaders tried to change us. Now 75 years after independence from all invaders, we are rising, and once again going back to becoming the melting pot. We are 'bringing up' the oppressed people of the last 800 years!
Talk is about Pakistan, between two Pakistanis, for mainly Pakistanis, but in English language which most Pakistanis do not understand. I doubt any gora has any sort of interest listening to it.
For once sir I “liked” your program! Instructive, balanced and educational. Unlike your “ hard talk ….” 😜
GREATER INDIA IS PAKISTAN AND INDIA ,ONE NATION..ONLY THE COLONIALIST..CHOSE TO DEVID INDIA..TO BETTER KEEP IT DIVIDED..
i beg to differ from you that the book of medieval history of india is devoid of arrival of islam, delhi sultunate,etc confined to 3 pages...
I m no one to comment but u have very superficial understanding about(1) the identity of Pakistan if river drainage can be the reason of partition (2) we have rich curriculum of Islam & Muslim in our Academic nd no government can wipe it out coz these are the facts rather pak deleted their roots u should ask urself why there is south &North Korea South Sudan nd north Sudan even thr was north veitnam & south veitnam if there was west India as pak ur reasons were more concerete nd accepted
Can you explain your identity without mentioning a river which does not even flow through your nation ?
Both of you are the best minds of Pakistan. May Allah Keep you healthy.
If this is the showcasing of Best minds of Pakistan, why to blame others for the present prevailing situation of Pakistan with "SELF DENIAL DNA", unwanted globally .
They are very good, not sure if best. However, Aitezaz has more of a apologetic attitude towards his Muslim identity. Though no doubt he's true son of the soil and has absolute right to hold his point of view.
In the end, it's the majority that prevails upon individual as well as culture.
Culture in itself is nothing, be it 5000 years old, it's the people who matter.
What the hell is he talking about, NCERT history books have dedicated chapters on Sultanate Period.
Also the guest is selectively talking about Sikhs going to Khwaza Moinuddin Chisti Dargah. While millions of Hindus flock to several of Sikh Monuments especially Golden temple every year. So, Mr. Guest, thread of secularism runs across length & breadth of India which is non-existence in Pakistan.
Revealing discussion , looks like it is not Hindu fobia but INDIA fobia. The Indian leadership & 1.4 billion Indians will ensure that we will be among the top 3 nations in the world in the very near future .
I agree with some of his theories but I'm not very impressed by his arguments. He doesn't develop or prove them very well. Maybe he does a better job in his writings.
The indian viewers are laughing at ur idiocy rather particularly at how ur pm began his speech with quran when u r not islamic.😳😳.
he is a islamoleftist. I bet this guy has no idea about Marxist ideology
I’m at loss to understand the point, two people talking about commonly known stuff….what’s the point?
I'm also in kind of same line .
Politics should be kept away from religion or vice versa as religion makes people emotional and decisions taken in emotion without being rational mostly leads to bad outcome.
People in India will understand however most people don't think rationally , though they are literate but not exactly educated and what could be the implications of decisions they are taking.
As long as Pakistan or Muslims are concerned, everyone whether be of any religion was oppressed as there were classes ,powerful almost always oppressed weak ones, rich always oppressed poor ones and you could get rich mostly through education which was not accessible to majority at that time.
The fact that he has struggled to identify himself & Pakistan during the whole course of the conversation tells everything about the “Artificial” Republic of Napakistan🇵🇰
30:20 you probably bought the wrong book then. The academic circles who are in charge writing these textbooks are deeply resistant to the idea of deleting muslim rulers and conquests from textbooks. Even academics who are pro-BJP, ask for a "fair" representation of those periods, not deletion. Therefore, whenever BJP govts ask textbooks to be republished in a way they fancy, academics simply refuse, forcing the govt to retreat. I think what might have happened with you is that you bought a book only covers that part of the curriculum. That's how the curriculum is divided in India between the grades- indus valley to guptas, guptas to delhi sultanate, delhi sultanate to 1857 and 1857 to independence. It's just convenient that way.
he is so confuse till date
Dr. Moeed, for god's sake stop interrupting after every 2 seconds.
Like always obsessed with India. Let India go to hell. He bought a history books for his daughter & mentioned Gaznavi was not mentioned and made it RSS key sajis. When did you buy the book who wrote it. No information given. Like hit and run. The guest mentioned we were Muslim so we separated and couldn't explain his identify to the British lady. ISI chief Ashad Durani wrote in his book that his grandparents came from Afghanistan to Junagadh and only moved to Pakistan after partition. He wrote it was all india that time and thanking mother india for taking care of his family. In india 20cr + muslims are there, how many Hindu's do you have in Pakistan.
Muslim Female at large during 2019 elections voted for BJP for scarping Triple Talak rule in India
If they did, it was their democratic right and they will have to live with their choice.
wrong, it was forcfully imposed by hindus. it was shia women allied with hindus
@@soheil527 OK that's good 😊
@lunar eclipse because hindus are in majority. keep pushing us and you will see the results Turks ar understanding your filthy games
@lunar eclipse Stop infesting arab nations for work . read the latest tweets from kuwaiti ambassador who wants indian out
Mr Moeed Pirzada, you should interview Hassan Jaafer Zaidi, the author of "Pakistan Kaise Bana" and many books on history of Muslims, Pakistan and its nationalities in depth and detail written with shear scientific analysis. You will surely find him a grand academic, perhaps unparalleled at least in our national stock.
Not only Sikhs but also Hindus visit Sufi shrines across India.
They both look so confused even after 75 yrs...very shallow discussion..no take home message
Very nice discussion. I am happy to see that Pakistan has some intellectuals.
I feel that some of the Generals they have got are good. I heard General Tariq Khan , he is good with lot of clarity .Politicians are - so many of them who are clueless . Imran Khan is handsome and smart but honestly clueless on complicated issues but better than Rahul Gandhi . No personal offense please. It can be subjective as well.
Nut case - 🙄🙄🙄no hope for Pakistan 🔥🔥
I think Mrs. Palmer was a lady who lacked general knowledge only Arabs are not Muslims, what about all those Muslims who r living in different parts of this world, they identify themselves with the region they r in, if u r not an Arab or Indian u cease to exist, he should have simply answered that I am a Pakistani from South Asia region , why was he dumbfounded. I can share some my personal experience that we as a family love to travel and while traveling I have experienced the dilemma of mistaken identity, but I never keep quiet, firstly nobody has the right to confuse my identity, secondly I do not hold back myself and I give them a polite lesson of geography , at least they will not repeat it again with someone else.
Sadaf, you make lots of sense! And you write well! Why don't you write for GVS Online? Editor@GlobalVillageSpace.com
@Vinamra Singhai , Happy Independence Day to our neighbors. Pakistan history is the Sub continent Muslim history , and if u want to trace it back it starts from the settlement of the Aryans at the banks of the river Sindh.
I am so disappointed to see such a shallow discussion on the pre and post 1947 Subcontinent.
The way Aitezaz sahab eulogized Nehru and the upper caste Indian elite spoke of his ignorance of what Indian elite has done to the Muslims and lower caste Hindus.
Moeed sahab, why is Pakistani liberal elite so hopelessly apologetic towards India? Why can’t they see that it was the hubris of Nehru and the INC which alienated Muslims and made them feel insecure that eventually lead to the liberation struggle of Muslims.
In essence there is no difference between RSS and Nehru as both sought the dominance of Hindu Civilization on the world.
Why do we forget that Kashmir conflict is an outcome of Nehru’s treachery and his chanakian character. Even Abul kalam Azaad said that Nehru and Patel were squarely to be blamed for “partition”. Azaad has written that Nehru would read Chanakya before going to bed.
It was India which occupied Kashmir to keep Pakistan off balance. Otherwise Quaid wanted peaceful coexistence with India. Remember, he gave the example of Canada-United States to describe the relationship he wanted between India and Pakistan. Even today if India wants peace then it must resolve Kashmir on the dialogue table.
Simply a horrible clip, a wastage of time and substantively hollow. I had much respect for Aitsaz Ahsen after reading some of his earlier writings though with much reservation. Now perhaps he is too weak to articulate better, and this clip is a public let down of this man. Unfortunately, Pakistani elites have been a total disappointment on the issue of their Islamic identity overshadowed by ill-advised secularism. Indian elites, by comparison, are extremely proud of their Hindu identity despite their shallow secular credentials ! If this continues Pakistan should just give up its claim on Kashmir, at least the further bleeding of innocent Pakistani lives can be stopped. Why should their lives be sacrificed to shore up a secular Pakistan ? And Kashmiris too would stand the chance of having better economic prospects in an equally, if not more, secular India ! What a stupid wastage of Muslim blood on either side of the Indo-Pak border, simply in pursuit of worthless secular projects ! Remember, it was a Hindu Bharat and not a Secular India which first welcomed Muslims to (south) India !
@Faris Ahmed
Anglos wanted to learn use of Islam as Weapon of Mass Destruction (WMD) against natives of Asia & Africa to keep medieval colonial world order intact. So they bred Khalifa E Lundoni Chiknah Jinah, Khalifa E Lootyani ConAngrez Mughal kaamRaid Bandit NoWheru-Gazi to create first ISIS (Islamic State of Indian Subcontinent). With that experience they could easily breed Khalifa Al BaghDaddy of ISIS of Levant.
@lunar eclipse They cannot breed crusaders any longer, since they kept Church away from the loot and plunder pouring in from colonies (which they call secularism). But they use Vatican and Mafia queens like Sonia and Teresa. Islam is easy WMD. Let Islam/Taliban take over AfPak and destroy itself.
@@farishamid3277 How does India occupy J&K? Why does Quaid attack J&K? What was Direct Action Day that and killing close to 1 million people? He was also called Qatil-E-Azam.
Under which rights Pakistan army is in J&K. Please provide the legal document.
ur first question with regard to Y didnt he join css services remained unanswered . aitzaz is retiring. second question about islamic state and muslim country too remained undefined or ill defined. this urge to stand alone and aloof from the majority accepted guidelines is intriguing , may b interesting too but ur css candidates will flunk if they write in exam what aitzaz says. Moeed ur interview with the General was way more catchy.
Something you have listen between the lines due to the sensitivity. He said too much already
Dr. Sahab, you're doing exceptional journalism in Pakistan where all journalist r beating only lines. You're honestly providing us knowledge about this country. Sir, keep it up. It my request. Prof. Zulfiqar Khan
Prof. Zulfiqar Khan, thanks! will convey your feedback to Dr. Pirzada!
Anglos wanted to learn use of Islam as Weapon of Mass Destruction (WMD) against natives of Asia & Africa to keep medieval colonial world order intact. So they bred Khalifa E Lundoni Chiknah Jinah, Khalifa E Lootyani ConAngrez Mughal kaamRaid Bandit NoWheru-Gazi to create first ISIS (Islamic State of Indian Subcontinent). With that experience they could easily breed Khalifa Al BaghDaddy of ISIS of Levant.
HUZAIFA NIZAM should have been invited.
U wanna know what is Pakistan's history.
We were the rulers of Joint India before it was captured and brought under the British Crown. We knew living under the extremist Hindu rule will be a suicide (fresh proof is baked on daily basis by the endian extremist, in the open, without any repercussion), that's why we made an independent state & carved out Endia to make a Beautiful country Pakistan...
Nehruvian India was poorest India. Modis India is richest. What is he even speaking? 🤣
I think the seeds were sowed in nehru's india which bears results now and modi is claiming that.
Well i wish you keep modi for atleast 20 more years 😂😂
I am fan of modi from Pakistan 🇵🇰
@@Wanderer975 You don't understand Indias history. India stopped being nehruvian state and brought reforms in 1992.
Modi will win next election again. POK will come.
@@Wanderer975 lol.... nehru, Indira were communist leaning socialist. They Both nationalised lot of private company and banks. India got very poor. It's Narasimhan Rao and manmohan singh duo who leberised economy in 1991. Then rest Bajpai - congress, modi followed same path. Economy devlopment never comes overnight. It requires funding and promotions on education, industry and training. It's need 1 to 3 decades.
I agree with Aitzaz Ahsan. Pakistan was made as a separate nation for Muslims of India. It wasnt made to create an Islamic Shariat State.
The part about India is a bit distorted. Don’t wish for India what you yourself do not fight for within Pakistan
River might have been forbearer of culture in older times as means of transportation but as the means of transportation has changed and the world has become smaller- exchange of ideas and cultural artifacts has become easier , so river is no longer the conveyer of culture.
Sir...
Many Civilisations Have Come
(78 As Per Various Estimates)...
Many Have Perished...
Many Emperors Came,
Many Vanquished...
Many Super Powers Came...
Only One Is Left Now...
Yet May Be Since 2000 Odd Years The Populations Of India And China Are High...
The Only Constants...
Other Wise In A Dynamically Changing World...
Ever Wondered Why...?
Ask Yourself...
Answer If Possible...
Ask Back If Curious...
All The Best...
Sir...
Many Civilisations Have Come
(78 As Per Various Estimates)...
Many Have Perished...
Many Emperors Came,
Many Vanquished...
Many Super Powers Came...
Only One Is Left Now...
Yet May Be Since 2000 Odd Years The Populations Of India And China Are High...
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Anglos wanted to learn use of Islam as Weapon of Mass Destruction (WMD) against natives of Asia & Africa to keep medieval colonial world order intact. So they bred Khalifa E Lundoni Chiknah Jinah, Khalifa E Lootyani ConAngrez Mughal kaamRaid Bandit NoWheru-Gazi to create first ISIS (Islamic State of Indian Subcontinent). With that experience they could easily breed Khalifa Al BaghDaddy of ISIS of Levant.
No, I believe Bharat has a greater problem. It is like a split personality, at home it is Bharat, but in the outside world no one knows, Bharat, it is India, how do you explain this? Jekyll and Hyde? All split personalities? Pakistan was part of the subcontinent of Bhara., Which the Brits called, India. Where does Bharat stand without India. No one knows it. India is recognised around the world by Taj Mahal, not by Bharat.
There are thousands of ancient sites which are more beautiful than taj Mahal
@@PriyankaSharma-cw2jb u didn't understood anything..🙏
does that matter? India is recognized for the binary numerical system, Panchatantra, yoga, numerical system, Hindutva, cuisine, dharmasastra/sutras, Indian classical dances, Indian music, cinema, diversity etc.
Very soon - we will make Taj a monument which will be known by its authentic history and to have been created by a horney mughal king who was responsible for the death of his wife - who died while delivering his 14th child. That horney king then - in memory of his dead wife - married the wife's younger sister. Also he was so negligent of his duties that his son took over the ruling of the kingdom.
The British lady had right question.