Battlefield 2042 Is So Broken Steam Is Breaking Its Policy To Issue Refunds As Player Count Plummets
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If EA had any decency they'd offer refunds for this unacceptably broken game no questions asked, but at least Steam is willing to be more flexible about it.
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[CIPHER]
- Joseph Lavoie
[BIG BOSS]
- Coopster
- Devon B
- Jonathan Ball
- Sarano
[BOSS]
- Charlie Galvin
- Gerardo Andrade
- Joe Hunt
- Michael Redmond
- Peter Vrba
- Time Dragonlord
[LEGENDARY]
- BattleBladeWar
- TacoBell Call911
- Theron Webb
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Just remember, this is what they created when they scrapped the singleplayer, had an extra year of dev time, charged $10 more, had twice the man power, cut support for their other titles, and had all hands on deck to 'do what they do best'. Remember, their only job was multiplayer this time and nothing else, they had a bigger budget and more people to help for longer... They had 1 job.
This says it all, Yong please pin this!
@@IsoSubject5 unfortunately true..
@@IsoSubject5 it actually hurts. Battlefront deserves more
It pains me how true this is...
I miss battlefront.
Someone literally told me with a straight face that a vocal minority hates the specialist system.
More like vocal majority.
That corporate damage control speak. These nimrods actually believe if you change the words it changes reality.
Actually it is a vocal minority, so are the people who like it.
You really think most people bought this pice of shit.
I did too at first, but then I realized that outside of Sundance and Rao, literally every "Specialist" is just a gadget from a previous Battlefield. Most buffed to actually be useful now.
Even the perks are just a return of Bad Company and BF4 perks.
Typical, calling an overwhelming majority a minority in a dismissive manner so they can keep their highly monetizable systems in game.
Steam:
"We'll issue refunds. The game is broken."
Origin/EA:
"The game is fine. No refunds, sorry."
This is why I'm on steam and not anywhere else. Especially not Epic.
@@justinwhite2725 Totally agree.
@@justinwhite2725 epic games isn't that bad as origin/ea since it accepts refunds and gives out free games that are a bit old now
@@KillerQueenBitesZaDusto idk some of the games weren't that old though
That was my exact experience with EA. Bought the game from Origin and they refused a refund and insisted that I uninstall and reinstall, and even buy a new PC just to play.
EA has had one disaster after another lately. This is nice.
Wonder if they've even caught on
I wish nobody bought their games
Lately? More like 10 years.
What are you talkning about? EA never learn!
They're just wiping their asses with 100 dollar bills blissfully unaware of how crappy their games are
You know you've royally fucked up when Steam is actually willing to issue refunds for your game, despite their usually strict policy timeframe.
Wish they did the same with abandonware scams
That’s when you know you fucked up. I literally clicked on the video because I thought “How bad could it have been”, but oh boy is it bad. 🤦♂️
I tried returning it and they declined.
@@manilowgamer same, i haven;t one person that actually got refunded. it seems like this is all fake news spreading
When Dark Souls 3 first came out it couldn't run on my computer and crashed every 3-5 minutes, and after 2.3 hours of fucking with settings they didn't refund me. That speaks *volumes* about this game.
The formula to make a good Battlefield game exists. Why DICE feels the need to constantly "re-invent" the wheel instead of building upon Battlefield's foundations is beyond me.
EA/DICE : "my house could use some fixing up, maybe a new roof, a fresh coat of paint, maybe a garage or a refurbished kitchen...... Lets tear it down and start over!!!"
@@icata12345 bfV engine would be better
Because all the original developers are gone and moved on. They should’ve kept everyone from battlefield 1 and invested more on the soundtrack. Poor direction since battlefield 5
Simple, the desire to sell us a "new" game every other year.
@@eevd350z And included all of the other basic functionality that you would expect a game to have at launch
You know you oofed if steam is giving refunds outside of policy
And this isn't the 1st time EAids and their studios messed it up! Oh those ME3 endings and Andromeda ...
I think the author of the video and this comment didnt read the policy.
Capital O “Oof” for sure, like holy fuck 💀
Not as bad as cyberpunk though imo. I still can't believe Sony accepted refunds
@@ricardohoang8452 off topic but I think the extended cut of ME3 helped the ending quite a bit. Still could’ve been better, but I found satisfaction from it, and I never played ME3 before legendary edition so I never experienced the original ending.
it’s almost like we are in an era where the biggest companies are competing to see who can make the most broken game on purpose
No, they are competing about who can release a game the quickest with cheapest budget.
Sounds like both of you are correct....
@@Flogge11 this
They're releasing early to generate revenue, so they can justify continued support. Relying on well established franchise popularity to carry the shit they half bake, to market. This is what terminal capitalism brain does.
Short term gains over long term sustainability.
I swear they all thought all the attention cyberpunk got was a good thing
The one bug that appears EVERY SINGLE MATCH, has to be the "Reload" prompt bug. Every single match, doesn't matter what weapon I'm using, I dump a mag, I reload it, and the reload prompt is still there. Every single game session. Tired of it.
Apparently it’s also so broken that cheat makers have abandoned the game because they’re not compatible with the current performance
That’s one way to keep cheaters away I guess…
lmao
What a timeline we live in
"When your prostate cancer fights off your lung cancer"
Damn not even cheaters want to play that dogshit.
Some Valve Employees “This game can not be refunded can it, Lord Gaben Is it legal”
Gaben “I will make it legal, players want customer service then we will give them customer service”
Praise be to lord gaben. Defender of the playerbase and creator of the greatest games of all time.
ACCC walks into the room, the one thing valve fears.
If only they had that kind of care Dota 2
And that's why we trust Valve to hold sole proprietorship of PC gaming (as well as the godlike sales, and a benevolent PoV regarding Piracy, but those are slightly less important). Because they know it's worth infinitely more money long into the future to offer proper customer service rather than hold out in the until they have no other choice for short term gains. Because good customer service pays more than it costs.
@@KiraSlith And it works to well. Every summer and christmas sale my wallet ends up noticable lighter and my steam library noticably larger even when I try and fight it.
Dice: "How dare you suggest you know what you want and like. We will tell you what you want and like."
Dice - Removes enjoyable content
Dice: "See, isn't that better."
"you will own nothing and you will be happy"
Remember when people defended the lack of single player story mode so they can focus only on multiplayer to have more content and have it polished at the best state.
Well that didn’t age well.
You can't blame them from thinking that tho..
@@SuperUltimateLP Nah but you can blame them for not delivering
@@johankiwii I'm not talking about the devs or EA.
Im talking about the people defending the choice to remove the single player
Never got why they said that, why pay 60$ just for online pvp? Odd
@@urekmazino6800 I personally don't play the singleplayer so I really hoped that all the dev time went in to the multiplayer.
That's would be a legit selling point if they had actually a good game there.
-Mit- With more weapons, good Balance, good performance and so on.
I still remember having Battlefield 1942 described to me by a friend, and I just couldn't believe it. He said that it had drivable ships that were large enough to have 30+ players on them. He said that there was player controlled planes dogfighting above huge tank battles on the ground. He said that it had artillery units firing half way across the map. I was just looking at him in disbelief, I remember said "that impossible, no way that's true". Sadly, in 2021 Dice agrees with me more so than him. 😐
Those gullible gamers kept falling for EA trick every single time. I haven't bought any EA games since BF4. I'm so proud of myself.
@Cim Best comment there sir.💯
@@zerenadli Nice! My last one was BF1 , also proud of myself. Still playing both titles and living happily ever after😄🥃
@@whiskeyopsonps4497 Good for you. I wish there's more gamers like you so that EA, Activision, Take 2 and Ubisoft will be out of business. Gaming industry would be in better condition without these vultures.
I wish more people boycotted EA games. Sadly, I haven't bought one since Dead Space (Nothing against it personally. It was okay. Actually bought it to see if EA had changed. The last game I bought with unquestionable excitement was BF2 from the hype that 1942 generated.) and obviously nothing has changed in almost fourteen years. EA could probably release failure after failure and be scummy spawns of Satan from now until the end of time as long as Madden and FIFA exist.
Yet another EA game providing me hours of entertainment without ever having actually bought it or played it.
Gave up on their games years ago because of all the BS. It's very satisfying to watch their company slowly run itself into the ground for these decisions.
kek
Tbh that’s smart of steam. Get some good rep out of the situation by going “EA won’t give you a refund, but we’re nice and we’ll bend the rules a little bit for you”
If game falls under "unplayable" category, it's considered a valid reason for Steam.
@veracsthanekek what
@veracsthanekek I don't understand what you said.
@veracsthanekek what the fuck are you talking about?
@veracsthanekek did you have a stroke?
"Removing single player is for the best, now they can really concentrate on what they know how to do best, multiplayer"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Just imagine if this was them putting all their work into multiplayer, lord imagine how horrible it would have been if they had to divide it.
Great point.
ngl im kinda curious (albeit in a morbid way) about how it would have played out divided like that. imagine the campaign LMAO
I actually think it would've been so much better, because then there they would be put under a tighter deadline with limited resource. I think they were given too much freedom and money to work with and these dickweeds blew it all. Sad to say this, but keep these devs hungry like slave the only way for them to sweat for the company. It's why Japanese comes out with great games, they actually treat it as their livelihood and don't dick around lol
Steam will always have my respect for a marketplace for gamers。
Rap on the drama? Diss on EA for this recent defecation on the fans would be the cherry on top 🍒
Oh please. Fans of Cd Projekt Red were also fans for life. If they mess up they don’t deserve blind, lifetime loyalty
@@WeBreakItAllDownRightHere difference is Valve doesn't have shareholders to please.
People once said Google would always have their support because the company's commitments to ethics, sustainability, etc.
Times change. Companies aren't people and you don't owe them shit. Always be prepared to dump them, at the first transgression if necessary. They only deserve our support for as long as they don't fuck it up.
Why is your dot so huge
I'm sure in not too long EA will go: "You know what will fix this game? NFTs!"
WRITE THAT DOWN!!! WRITE THAT DOWN!!!!
"NFT features will come to Battlefield 20-42 fps"
I can't imagine they aren't working on that shit already. There's no way EA forgoes NFTs. Profit is way more important than PR for them. I'd eat my shoes if they don't.
At this rate not even the EA NFTs will work properly
WAIT FOR IT, WAIT FOR IT ....
Good on Steam, I've been on Steam for 15 plus years as well. Steam is doing the lords work! I'll be on Steam for another 15 years.
Lord GabeN protects us all
But, but maybe Epic is better?
@@deivytrajan Hell no
@@deivytrajan This, this is bait.
Edit: Wow ty for the likes and as ever don't feed the trolls.
@@deivytrajan excuse me what
The fact that steam is changing their refund policy for this game tells you everything. Steam is usually quite strict on the refund time slot and has often allowed even broken and buggy games to be sold and continued to enforce the refund. So for steam to break their usual policy hear tells you everything. Also good on steam for doing this. This is exactly why I love steam. It has great games, tones of features to encahcne gameplay and they actually protect the playerbase and the consumer.
yep this is great PR for steam.. even if they lose money in the short run
@@FireFlanker1 The thing is they don't loose money. Because when they refund you're purchase you get a credit on their store. Because they refunded your're game the chances are you probably are going to spend the money again on steam purchasing another game. So all they are doing here is making you the customer happy and thus a long term customer and they still get paid.
They aren't changing policies or giving refunds
@@texasthib2029 Have you seen the thousands of refunds that have been processed?
No, because you're a peasant.
Trashfield 2042 truly is the gift that keeps on giving. This has been EA's very own Fallout 76. No matter how hard EA may try, this won't be forgotten.
brain deads will still but shits just cuz its part of a tittle 😂
Fallout 76 became worth its $20 price 2 years in
Battlefield is dead by spring
FIFA game buyers beg to differ.
@@aceclover758 I got fallout 76 for a Christmas gift. I replayed it a week ago I don’t think it was even worth the free price…
Anthem was EA's 76, this is EA's 76: the sequel. They just don't learn.
As a massive BF4 fan, I'm still so incredibly disappointed. This is SO much fucking worse than the standard DICE game launch bugs. What a massive letdown. :(
And the worse thing is that this could’ve been one of the best battlefield game if done properly… I was really looking forward to a modern battlefield game since I love 3,4 and bad company
The bugs ain't the problem, the core itself is terrible.
Even to this day BF4 is clunky and glitchy as fuck. This shit will never be fixed
Can we still play bf4 multiplayer? Are there available servers?
@@seb1520 But bf4 still managed to give one of the best multiplayer experience in gaming can't say the same about bf42
Just a reminder to everyone that, as we saw with Warcraft III: Reforged, many countries have consumer protection laws that override parts of terms of services that you may have signed.
Australia and New Zealand for instance have 30 refunds on faulty products or services which, like with Warcraft, would likely apply here meaning that Steams 14 day, 2 hour limit doesn't mean anything.
Look up your laws, cite them to steam if you feel they are applicable, and get your authorities involved if Steam pushes back and you feel the process is worth it.
Remember the days when you'd buy a game and not have to worry about day 1-30 critical patches?
Remember when games had content? Now content these days is a useless icon or sticker and a cut map that was supposed to be in the game.
I am so glad i got my old games
Well not really sonic 06 amd big rigs over the road racing
Remember games were 60 bucks and having good contents?
Pepper ridge farms remembers.
I can remember the exact moment I heard that EA had acquired Dice. I knew in that moment that a once great game developer was about to die a slow and horrible death. EA acquiring a developer is absolutely the kiss of death for said developer. RIP Dice and soon Codemasters.
Those of us who have been here from the beginning have seen them all fall. And it just keeps happening, over and over. Even Rockstar has fallen. Everything turns to shit if you've been around long enough. Rip to all of my favourite franchises over the past 3 decades. Money and arts just never work out in the long term.
RIP Dead space 💔
Bioware is ready to its funeral
I mean it could be said that bf1 is one of the greatest battlefields ever made given the time period they were working with. That game is a fucking masterpiece and had a relatively small amount of bugs. Only a "few" years ago. How the tables have turned tho
@@jackkenny4194 completely agree with bf1 being great
Not sure if this is widely known, but most of the key Battlefield developers and executives left Dice after BF5.
Battlefield 1 is the last one for me that actually hit that war feeling sweet spot. It sounded amazingly! It felt amazingly! Stuff got destroyed, weapons were dirty, gas was scary. Afterwards something changed. Their Formula changed.
Battlefield lost their identity
It's a combination of corporate failures and pure cynical greed. EA thought they could replicate the success of Apex Legends, by chasing trends in the gaming market. There is an industry-wide ship now, and fix later mentality companies have adopted
Yes love battlefield 1 the war feel almost real i even got some ptsd about tank hitting me from out of nowhere
I just hated grenade spam and lack of weapons. The hellreigal was OP
BF 1 is the first battlefield that i played in my life. and i could say its been fun. while its not so perfect. at least its not as buggy and cheating (infinite hovercraft) like bf 2042. i sure this game will be fixed by
2042
For BF 2042, this is well justified. The game has no campaign, no single-player elements at all, so for the player base to be so weak only a few months after the game came out is a sign that the game will not survive very long. For a live service game, this means prompt abandonment and effectively an unplayable game.
Ehh, I can live without campaign in a Battlefield game. But it better have as much content as Battlefield 1, and it better be as good as Battlefield 1.
They'll drop it just like how they dropped BF5, which originally was suppose to get eastern front content after pacific. This is why live service is crap, they can release a half assed game to test the waters, then release cut content from the base game as seasonal content.....
@@justcows7772 I think he means that if they were going to sacrifice the single player to focus exclusively on the multiplayer on this installment then it damned well better be the most content rich multiplayer in the entire franchise. Yet somehow it managed to have less despite this.
Every time I hear someone try to talk up how amazing and good self-driving cars will be because programmers will make them work perfectly, I think about how common it is for the game industry to push out buggy messes like this on the public.
Self driving cars don't need to be "perfect", just significantly less prone to accident than human drivers. Turns out that isn't actually a very high bar.
It's a bad comparison. As a programmer myself I hate it when people blame programmers. We can make beautiful, very stable code if we get the resources to do it. If only non-developer executives and marketing people would leave us alone and actually trust our judgment of when our code is ready and when it needs more work, things would greatly improved. I don't work in the game industry, but I would like to think that for a programmer, working with games isn't a lot different than working with other pieces of software. There is a huge difference between working with an executive team with at least some members having programming experience and working with executive teams that do not have those experiences.
A better comparison than games would be to look at autopilot systems in airplanes. Those are programmed by programmers too, but the testing is much more rigorous. Or for that matter, the Mars rover. Awesome technology and with software created by programmers. In those cases (and in the case of self-driving cars), the fault tolerance is near zero because of the risk of loss of life or immense cost of damages, whereas the fault tolerance of a faulty game is higher because the downsides are just partial loss of revenue and the risk of damages to the brand.
I can assure you that if Dice and EA would employ the same level of testing and quality assurance with Battlefield as a company creating self-driving cars would be legally required to have, BF2042 would be flawless. The thing is that they don't have to, because consumers will buy the game regardless. The cost of a flawless game would be prohibitely high, as well. It's just like every other product. You wouldn't want to spend $500 on a perfect t-shirt either, because a $5 one is perfectly fine for its purpose.
All those battlefield elitists went real quiet too since it came out. Say what you will about cod but at least their games work
@@Ihavehadmanynames7779 You're not wrong, even if COD Vanguard is absolute dogshit diarrhea that spits in the face of everyone who fought in WW2.
In the end, both series are now just total dead husks of what they once were, their corpses being paraded and sold by soulless greedy companies
@@RobotMasterSplash And yet, they are nowhere near to clearing that bar. Vacuous marketing hype is very contagious Tesla's entire stock price is based on it.
I've had refunds from Steam outside of policy when presenting a case like this so it's not totally outside the norm for them to do so as a customer service gesture, it's likely more customer related than specific to the game itself, but still good on them for it. The user shows that it's about presenting your issue politely and not just kicking off when your initial request is refused.
Yeah the 14 days 2 hour thing is No Questions Asked, after that you can still get a refund if you present a valid reason.
It's a customer related move in order to protect the brand, they acknowledge that having a strict policy for a broken product like this would damage the consumer experience through the platform, so they decide to skip the norm a little bit.
@@dojelnotmyrealname4018 yeah, I was even able to get back money from micro transactions when a game's community manager slandered me on Twitter and dev forum mods attacked me with racial slurs
I remember buying game full price and playing def more than 2 hours, but after a few days game got major discount, and steam refunded me, so i can buy game again cheaper.
@@solblackguy what game
I’m a long term BF fan, and I’m done. DICE has been afforded too many passes. If the business I work for put out defective products like DICE does then we’d be done. There are no excuses any longer
DICE was past redemption with V
I know how you feel mate. It's why I just said screw this and went over to Hell Let Loose, Rising Storm 2 and am currently also looking at World War 3.
It's just too much. If they don't get their heads out of their asses they'll lose it.
I'm about to delete real soon
I literally still play battlefield 4. Way better than 2042 lmao
@@tutes0133 arent almost all the battlefield clones in worse state playerbase wise? Why be praising this while simultaneously advertising another throw away indie title that will be dead in a few months. Never understood the appeal of games like this or insurgency for the same lack in interest even from the community that owned it.
EA's tanked launch after launch, lost its exclusive deal on the Star Wars IP, and its stock value is dipping back with more whiplash than a roller coaster.
My heart goes out to the bottom line that will be ultimately affected by all of this, but I lose no sleep over the prospect of EA corporate heads panicking.
What do you mean your heart goes out to "the bottom line"? Anyone potentially affected by this is getting exactly what they deserve.
@@pearz420 the poor developers are the bottom line, and they don't deserve to go jobless.
Once again, it’s the gift that keeps on taking.
For me it gives me the gift to laugh at this how pathetic the franchise has become I had no expectation of this game ever being good honestly a way worse outcome than cyberpunk.
💯🎯
EAids and their studios, where are the patches?
Oh yeah, no patch can fix those messes!
Betafield 2042 took the place of Fallout 76, i'm all in for a year full of news from this mess, you think that it can't get worse but somehow it does, waiting for their season 1 to see the next failure
@@pax1217 yup 76 at least after 3 years is now a okay game. but fallout 76 should have been released in 2020 not 2018
So depressing , what in the hell is happening to gaming ? at first i thought “im getting older thats why these games dont hit anymore “ but in reality these Companies are just draining me
The main problem is modern games are soulless. They aren't like older games, which were designed with playability and enjoyment in mind, now gaming is a huge industry, so the focus has shifted to making the most profit.
Seek out new indie games, from small studios. Those are good more often than not. Gaming can still be very fun.
@@rena8215
The shift started with the popularization of MTX
@@rena8215 I disagree. There are a lot of devs who care, it's just these higher ups. How many games do you actually play? Because there a lot of games with soul still put into them.
@@NostalgiaNet8 The devs care, but that care doesn't matter when you have CEO man breathing down your neck telling you to cut corners so it's less expensive.
What does that soul matter if it can't be appreciated properly?
@@NostalgiaNet8 well these devs need to go too small studios and work on there stuff.
Because of the "claim" the game is broken lol. Not because it's broken but claimed to be broken. I am so sick and tired of corrupt, greedy, exploitative and abusive corporations. These people deserve nothing less than toxicity.
This game is the pinnacle of EA magic. The summit of EA quality.
@「 Deadpoppin 」 When…euh, was that? I can’t remember them ever being decent or good. Must be pre-2000.
@@MacGuyver85 Yeah. The golden times where FIFA was actually really fun series and Need For Speeds were excellent
@@MacGuyver85
back when EA did Need for Speed till Underground 2, EA Fight Night series, Def Jam series till Fight for NY, the Battlefield series till bad Company 2, the first Fifa Street and NBA Street Games, FIFA Soccer & NBA Live till 2012, Clive Barker's Undying & Jericho, Black, Bulletstorm, the first Dragon Age, Future Cop LAPD, Moto Racer series, the first 2 Mass Effect games, the first Mirror's Edge, the first 2 Battlefront games, Sim City series till Sim City 4, Wing Commander series and the first 2 Medal of Honor Games
@「 Deadpoppin 」 when was that?
I stopped pre-ordering anything ea after the spore disappointed in 2008
@「 Deadpoppin 」 nah they were already a shite company in the dragon age time.
They killed moha in 2012.
And NFS ended in 2004
“YEA, EA DOES IT AGAIN”
“DONT BE MAD EA, IT JUST HOW IT WORKS OUT SOMETIMES”
Fucking lame and unoriginal.
@@nnoffuture “don’t be mad buddy, it’s just how it works out sometimes”
*My killer as he squeezes my last breath from me* : _"Don't be sad; this is just how it worx out sometimes... Well well well; that was fun"_
@@nnoffuture just like battlefield 2042, very fitting
@@pissyourselfandshitncoom2172 “you know, I think I pulled something back there”
I can't wait for BF4 to be the most played BF game 10 years after its released. Even if the server browser has been fucked over the years, you can still have a fun couple of hours with modern weapons, vehicles, and maps. Amazing how much DICE fixed that game and added to it with little added cost and effort from the player base.
Nah I need that bf1 buzz
Facts
@@scared4336 started playing bf1 again, don’t regret a single minute
You might as well play BF2/3 then, basically the same game with better levels and optimization.
BF4 has so much stuff in it. Like commander mode, battle stats, class and vehicle profiles you could edit outside the game, etc. Plus so many game modes that I could play on rotation and never be bored.
Last night i checked Steam Stats to see how many people were playing 2042. I checked twice and couldn't believe 2042 was now not even in the top games played and had only 8000 active players.
That is terrible for a game that is what 2 months old? Battlefield V had like 3x the players 2042 does.
I don't even think 2042 is dying. Its already dead and one map release in March is not going to save this sinking ship.
WTF were Dice thinking.
EA's totally gonna send them back to supporting BF5 before then
@@kwayke9 I hope this is true because I find BF5 fun. Plus more content for that is fun and actually works is never a bad thing.
"WTF were DICE thinking?" Money
@@kwayke9 Probably send them to EA's death row where they can wait for their studio's impending closure alongside Bioware.
Remember when battlefield was a staple of gaming? AAA quality title, new features and technology with each title release and now, 10 years from its peak, it's trash. EA killed it and both they and DICE have completely lost touch with their audience.
My friends all bought this game without looking at anything other than the trailers and they're all so committed to not admitting they wasted money that they won't stop asking me why I haven't bought the game yet. My answer never changes, it's not worth a penny of my money.
Yeah man I started playing video games again w bf 4 and BF1. Loved those games. Seems like it's been 20 years since and the decline is as horrific as it is blatent. Bums me right out but u totally right. Not a fuckin cent from me. Fuck u ea/dice. Or what u used to b.....
IT peaked with 1
It peaked about 5 years ago with BF1.
just like cod Vangaurd LOLOL
Thats because did the World War. They've completely lost touch with making quality games. When Battlefield 1 was announced, that was the moment they stopped being creative and decided to appease to the bloggers and shareholders. They lock their eyes on a small group of critics and try to appease them.
Once they copied Call of Duty and went World War I knew Battlefield was headed downhill.
"EA publishes a game"
me: Oh boy Yong has new content for weeks :D
Wow...its a Christmas miracle to see steam doing that. I feel bad for those who bought a hard copy or on the xbox or the playstation store. Imagine going to Game Stop to get a refund, only to sell the $100 edition just to get $5 back or store credit, and then its put on sale for a more than what you sold it.
Lmao they deserve it.
input the south park cable guy meme: im sorry dang it we can only offer $2.99 you used it
harsh but they deserve it for having supported it.
@@ThatsaToilet They deserve it for having faith in developers to make a good game? That seems excessive.
@@heroicryan6257 having faith in developers is not bad, having faith in EA or their studios is bad.
The fact that the people who sell you the game are more caring and honest than the people who made it is astonishing.
Yeah but its steam. There's a reason why Epic games haven't been able to compete with the platform even after all of this time. Valve actually cares about their Market/ platform and are constantly improving the experience. I mean did you know for example steam has an inbuilt discord function where you can host a voice chat with steam friends ? Sure nobody uses it but its there !
@@reaperking2121 I used to use it when I had certain friends who refused to make a discord account. It's nice to have.
@@reaperking2121 I just used it a week ago, while playing with my bro across the house!
(My mobile was in another room, and I didn't want to get up to switch to Discord!)
@@The_Rising_Dragon I have used it a few times as well its actually a great system. But that why I love steam. Most people overlook it or never even know its there. But it still exists for those who want it.
If i were a game dev, I'd be glad to sell on steam.
Yes, they take a bigger cut than Epic, but they offer more. Workshop mod support, community platforms with discussions and (user made) guides, actual support, etc.
Oh and the most important, what is more, 90% of x or 70% of 10× x, steam has a much bigger userbase, so even a smaller cut will still be way more.
Yeah, having done QA work (some of it even at/for EA) I can guarantee you that the testers caught those bugs. There's no way they would have missed them.
This is what happens when a release is rushed for a holiday deadline at Executive Request. x_x
This shows that Steam at least has the integrity to admit its a broken game and making gamers endure it is just unethical. Take notes EA and Dice, THIS is how you fix your company problems. Actually LISTEN to your customer base, don't make games that are DOA simply to meet investor demands!
If steam had integrity they would have done the same for New world, the game is just as broken but no exceptions were made
@@viniciuscoxoba3842 It's not steams policy to refund purchases, unless the publishers themselves wish it.
@@IndianTelephone then don’t give exceptions, I think steam’s refund is fair and well enforced, but if your refund depends on the mood of a person on the other side of the chat, the system loses its credibility
@@viniciuscoxoba3842 new world was nowhere near as broken. It has issues, but not to this degree.
@@yourface2464 it was, there was a point you couldn’t generate currency in the game, causing a massive deflation, there was 2 week period that ALL players below lvl 18 were blocked in a major quest because it requires a material that could only be purchase, but the currency didn’t existed in quantities for everyone, so a few players were buying with REAL MONEY the game currency in a black market of sorts to progress and them SELLING the account online because an account with game currency was impossible to get
And that is 1 examples, I can give you 100
That’s the level of brokeness
"Featuring maps with scale so large and your character so slow it's a slog to cross, the next edition of Battlefield takes all the destruction, player agency, vehicle and weapon combat and throws it out the window so you can buy skins and other bullshit from our store. The team is mismanaged and the game is rushed ahead of our internal milestones so we could get it out before christmas."
- Andrew Wilson - CEO
Reminds me when Atari rushed development for ET.
Andrew Wilson....more like Andrew Wilson Fisk?
@@buddho1135 Android Wilson*
"Featuring maps with scale so large and your character so slow it's a slog to cross".
Sooooo, a BF1942 map like El Alamein?
*Andrew Wilshit
Glad to know that the guys in valve are still gamers at heart and can sense a scam when they see one and are willing to refund despite having strict policies
Bold Prediction: They're intentionally killing the franchise. The signs are there, we've seen it before.
Nah, DICE is incompetent. Their stupidity shown in how they handled BF5 compared to the rebound of Battlefront 2.
I won't be surprised if they become a support only studio in future.
EA let's studios do what they want, but if you have multiple failures then heads start to roll.
@@jackhazardous4008 Because they plan to create a hero shooter in its place. They want praise and for it to be called a step up from 2042. Two steps back, one step forward.
Fits with EA’s MO. Buy franchise, milk franchise, kill franchise, repeat.
@@waterheart95 no they spent money fixing it because disney tore them a new one for having smeared their brand.
And it barely worked
It's erasure of history. Somehow a professional shooter game doesn't make the big bucks anymore.
They're probably trying to find an excuse to axe it, and focus on their hero shooter
Fanboys in the Discussion boards:
"This game has issues, but wait for the patches, I'm having fun and barely had any serious issues"
Hours played: 100+
YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.
YOU are the reason why this shit keeps happening.
Place Levelcrap, Stodeh, Jack Frags right in that category.
Those ppl are pure vile scum, had constant bullying on chat when I reported bug. Enjoy the game now f heads.
@@alexandershaw2378 broken too
@@chuchu5946 Actually Nate Gibson has played over 100+ hrs of Brokenfield 20-42 FPS.
I lost count on how many times i had to re-launch the game because bugs like you can't even deploy and just watch the game above the map without the "Deploy UI" or that the camera is just stuck and i move with tank controls right before i get disconnected with the EA servers, just name a few of many bugs that i have stumble upon.
I've asked for a refund 3 times with 34 hours played, and over 2 weeks from steam. Still have been denied. You can't get a refund on steam. They won't give it
I have always had a good experience with Steam customer service. It's frankly astonishing that they are able to provide the level of service that they do in this day and age. I have unfortunately become accustomed to such poor service from almost any form of retailer that Steam's service stands out.
it's amazing how they actually think that doing the exact opposite of what your players want is what the players want
Taken right out off Blizzards play book.
Well they did it with BFV and it somehow worked. With 2042 they thought they can bring it to the next level but it looks like EA finally hit bedrock. Thanks to players it took them long enough thou.
steam refused my refund after 33 hours of play. But I see players in steam reviews w/ similar playtime getting refunds. WTF?
this is one of the times you gotta give props to Valve.
@Straw ASMR Raps Ha! Yeah...
And you mean Steam... Valve is the Games Developer department and they have nothing to do with these refunds.
@@DanielFrost79 they are one and the same for the most part. valve makes(made) the games but still own steam. as far as i can tell, Steam is still run by Valve. i cant find anything that says they are run by two different companies.
@@Sniperbear13 Because they arent 2 different companies.
Both (all) departments of a company does not do the same thing. That would be pointless and would defeat the whole purpose of having departments.
I still wished Valve continued the Half Life series.
@@DanielFrost79 Go play HL: Alyx, what are you waiting for?
Honestly, this isn't even something that surprises me at this point
We've done this song and dance before, and I would be shocked if it wasn't the last time it happens
big AAA title launches in broken state, gets mass negative reviews, publisher refuses refunds, Steam decides to be the bigger person and be consumer friendly by offering what the publisher refuses to (and in some places could get into legal trouble for it):
Refunds
Honestly this is where we need to do some kind of class action lawsuit as consumers.
So roughly an estimate of 83% lost interest since Battlefield 1. If that doesn't say you've done or are doing something wrong. There is no actual hope for this developer. Given the real clips and complaints. This should of had sales halted and refunded. At the base level if you can't play smoothly at any moment. There shouldn't be a grace period for it. When a company selling your game can log in. Prove that for a fact it's broken. While you continue to say buy it with confidence. Then you've hit the bottom of the barrel. Even an indie studio would have more sense about it.
It's realy impressive how EVERY SINGLE Battlefield game has the same bugs like hitbox failiure, and even ads a few with every new release!!
How can the developers NOT be aware of these bugs when they have them EVERY SINGLE TIME!?!?
I'm sure they're aware. It's the rich people on top that tell them to ignore that shit and push the game out incomplete.
EA stopped caring and the developers stopped caring. EA is chasing their own Fortnite and to them Battlefield is a dinosaur as they try to develop their own version of Fortnite, but EA being EA they are also incompetent so that's not going very well either.
Recently played BF4 and I had that exact same teleportation bug during one level on campaign mode lol
Why would they care?
People still rush to play the game on release even in spite of knowing that the last couple of entries had those problems.
They’ll continue releasing half finished garbage because stupid people keep paying for it.
Steam- “yea chief now I kinda understand the frustration here go ya money back” lmao
EAids: Come on! It's a good love letter
DICE: Yeah! We - EA and me - can't understand why people hate our love letter?
Steam: Looks like your "love letter" pissed people off so hard!
Left Alive? Anyone?
This reminds me of No Man's Sky and how Sean, instead of shutting out all the complaints, went through those complaints and sorted them all out, stayed quiet, and worked on those said complaints, fixed it, gave more than what was promised.
Honestly that's good on Steams part they didn't have to do that but they've heard the distress and frustration from those that just wanted a polish working game at launch. Shame on DICE and EA. That's terrible but I'm honesty not surprised, it's EA they don't care about nothing other than preserving their profits.
Tbh, I think it's on line with their usual. Most of the time if they deny a refund thats outside of the usual limits (2 weeks since purchase or 2 hours of play) the reason they give is "We don't believe the product is broken enough to justify allowing a refund"
2042 is definitely broken enough so they're just sticking with their rules.
Every time I see a video about BF 2042 I giggle at the notion that Dice decided to drop support for BF V and take an extra year of development to essentially release the worst Battlefield to date
BFV and BFII died for this.
This is good that Steam is doing this. I remember when Steam let you refund Batman Arkham Knight no mater how much you played or how long you had it. Due to how bad the game ran.
Never buy another DICE/EA game ever again, I don't care if they fix the bugs. They dont deserve a player base anymore in my eyes. Hope one day that company gets bankrupt.
I think the game is beyond repair at this point it is clear from both devs and the publisher direction that they are doubling down on the new “vision” for bf , so actions speak louder than words , I wish I could get refund from the Sony Ps store I would get my 80 dollars and buy something else
They really sold this shit for almost 100 fucking dollars
people need to open their eyes and stop buying from shitty greedy companies who care about nothing but money. They wont fix shit. They wont give you what they promised. They will hive you fake promises and fake everything then move onto their next title to milk of off people who dont pay attention.
@@dragoncpu2226 a new generation of idiots are born every day
@@roadrash2005 and these people about to cause another 'Great Depression' for their foolish dumb way spendibg money and literally all price and people resign off job because some idiots just makes $100 sounds so cheap and keep spending on dumb stuffs
@@illuminatihov that’s true it’s just incredible how it wasn’t even a collectors edition you just got early access 😂
I was 16 when bf42 launched. Played them all. Wanted to show my son the series I grew up with and was so disgusted with it I deleted my dice account of 20 years.
It's a shame what these once beloved companies have become.
DICE has always been shit. People just keep forgiving them for some reason. As a Battlefield veteran since Battlefield 2, I know first had how fucking trash DICE is.
"If you don't like it, don't buy it" - DICE
EA never was loved lol
EA has always been shit.
@@nokeksgiven They did, but the cracks in their foundation were already showing. The games themselves just being so amazingly envisioned, with passionate devs and/or designers behind them, with excellent advertisers, were what got them by... But there was chronic rushing against deadlines, thus each of them was always plagued with certain problems. And we already saw that (before the patching era, then into patches being rare due to costing big money to perform on consoles, which they often opted NOT to do, leaving many titles with game-breaking bugs), & tried to warn players to boycott them until they stopped rushing releases. But of course, everyone was wooed by the good parts & ignored the bad parts. And each inch they got away with, they took another mile. We saw it coming, we warned & warned... but not enough people listened, continued to feed the beast, & now are all surprised-pikachu-face.jpg about the behemoth of failure EA has become. 😮💨
I wanted to play this with my friends. It was such a letdown. Similarly with COD. We may just be getting old but we can’t waste our time with bugs and glitches
personally feel like cod vanguard is fine but its just so fast paced nowadays its stupid lol. Warzone is free but its bug ridden as well but both of these games are way more superior than 2042
Halo was the only decent large triple a release honeslty and even that has a lot of problems. But the one thing the game has is 10/10 gameplay.
If you want a good first person shooter game to play with friends, you should try Deep Rock Galactic. A game properly made, with actual soul and decent content. It's more of a Left 4 Dead type of game in terms of gameplay, but still.
Try to switch to another genre of games, since now Halo infinite is really the only modern FPS that it's enjoyable, I found out that games like simulators (MSFS, ETS2...) actually are fun and relaxing, I just learned how to fly a jet from cold start to landing and taxi and currently im learning how to fly an Airbus, you can also try out Sea of Thieves or racing games like Forza Horizon 5
@@DuskSkullin The new warzone map is doing good. I play on console and there are not many bugs.
steam is such a kind platform... i dont regret having all my games purchased there... every time they are kind or put their customers before profits i grow a little more attached... a place for indi games to grow a platform that holds onto every version of the game uploaded to their servers so you can run any version of the game... and the workshop/mods and descussions... beautiful just beautiful... there are pitfuls with the service though there are dirty devs but word gets around... i frickin love steam...
I gotta be honest, I preordered, somehow I was hyped, I thought DICE was finally going to make a game that could take BF4's place in my heart, I even was willing to give specialists a chance, but as soon as I played the beta, I knew better, cancelled the preorder, and feel so good I made such choice.
Yup basically the majority of us right there.
I stopped pre-order after spore by EA. In 2008.
Kinda sad how the rest of gamers never learned
That's what reviewers are for!
When I played the beta I too wanted a refund but sony makes it soo hard I called them so MANY TIMES and I was on hold for hours each time! I finally gave up and was so disappointed with the " finished " product smh
@@ZeroHxC07 it really was. It was entirely broken, but we still had people saying "oh this is an earlier build" or "oh they'll fix it in the day 1 patch!" yeah. How many times have we seen this now?
I was already skeptical about the game, then I tried the free weekend and uninstalled after 2 hours... I was baffled by the lack of content and empty maps. Can't believe they published a brand new game for this much money that offers you so little and feels so disconnected from the earlier BF. Glad people are getting refunds.
*that offers you nothing
😁
Is your name a pun? I read it as “Apex Predator” at first.
@@danalmero374 I think you might be dyslexic
@@danalmero374 It's not haha Apex Predator is a good one for sure
Battlefield Hardline was my absolute favorite. I had soooo much fun playing with my friends on there, especially the one where you had to drive the car for as long as you can. Sad to see the franchise go downhill so hard.
Well done steam, used it for years and it's good to see they're doing something right with their refunds for once, even if it's self preservation
Yeah, it's very rare for companies to actually make good decisions nowadays.
The "teleporting" happened to me as well, it's a level specific bug with those shipping containers, the game doesn't know if your on the ground below it as it moves, so if the crate is above you, you teleport into it. I'm not sure if this is 100% happening to everyone, or if it just happens here and there.
Great software that was definitely ready for launch
@@joeykeilholz925 120% ready, in fact.
Ahead of schedule indeed
Oh noooo, I recognize this bug. This is a really old bug, early BF:BC2 leaked prototype old. If I recall, this is the server's version of the map being out of sync with the players'. Specifically, it looks like the game is just not syncing with the clients at all.
@@KiraSlith you're right, I should've realized it was desynch. Too bad it's not more like BC2, the game might actually be good then
"Don't be sad, this is how it works out sometimes , EA."
It's not fair on Steam to do this but I'm so glad they have, it's really shedding a bad light on game developers, especially AAA ones, and rightfully so. This anti consumer behaviour needs to stop!
how is it not fair lmao
@@ffgfdg123 I think he means it in a way it's not fair for the people who bought games that were broken at release but never got to refund it because of the policies. So EA is getting a special treatment, as they should!
@@ffgfdg123 because steam is losing money by giving refunds
@@DeanOrSomething They have more than enough in the bank to refund. Don't worry about a mega corp, they tend to do just fine, as long as they preserve their image unlike EA
@@DeanOrSomething I mean they are giving steam credit back, that's not losing money since you can only use it there
Could you imagine if Steam refused to take/sell any other EA games in the future because of this? I wounder how EA would react if even the distributors don't want their crap
Then they can just sell it on EA Play. Not that they did not fuck that up the first time with Origin.
Steam keeps denying my refund but I’ve seen people with same hours played as me getting refund. They keep telling me to contact the games official support team.
Same bruh it’s bull shit
@@Dr.Zoidberg_2914 yup paid $100 and can’t play or get money back and road map is gone.
@@Austynrox I only paid fucking 40 cause it was on sale but I’m fucking mad that game is ass
@@Austynrox like im a cod guy and vanguard is bad but battlefield is fucking unplayable
@@Dr.Zoidberg_2914 i enjoy cod. I mean im not a huge fan but i enjoy it as a mindless shut off my brain and have fun game. Plus zombies is always fun. I didn’t buy vanguard cause wanted to get BF got the gold edition for the year 1 pass and all the in game bull shit that isn’t worth it now. Game started off with minor issues but just has gotten worse and taken in the opposite direction of where it should be. I did a year in school for game design (long story not what I wanted to go for but the school lied to me and shit but like I said long story) and doing a year behind the scenes and seeing what all goes into designing and developing a video game my view on the industry changed. I usually support the game and put faith in the devs to fix the issues. I’ve talked to people who work in the industry and made personal connections and they all can say how bad the publishers like EA and Activision ride them and push the games out when they know they aren’t ready. They refuse to push back releases when its needed and think they can call a half finished game done and let the devs take all the blame for it. I usually never blame devs or talk bad about games any more. I mean look at escape from tarkov they have the dream set up. No publisher pushing them to release a full game. They have a playable beta that anyone can join into. They have a active community who spots bugs and issues for them and we are the play testers so we can give them actual good feed back in form of live streaming,forms,youtube and they can take the time to fix it release a big update with new features and small ones with minor fixes and then when they are ready give it a full release, and they are actually active in the community. No publisher over top of them pushing them to release the game in its current state they can take their time to do what they need. But EA really screwed the pooch on this one and Dice just can’t figure out how to fix it. Their best solution is to refund the people who bought it (at least digitally, physical copies are alot harder to do it with) take the loss and remove the game from stores both physically and digital. Take it back to the drawing board and do a re-release of it in a year or two when its in a better state.
Yes, thank you for actually talking about the real state of the game Yong. The battlefield UA-camrs, mainly Jack frags and Levelcap, have turned into simps for this game and believed that its just 'mixed',totally forgoing an unbiased stance with the catchphrase "It'll get better.".
People need to stop justifying broken games. They literally sold an alpha build for full price.
Above "full price" even, since BF 2042 is $70 apparently?
It's not even an alpha build. It's missing the entire single player campaign. This is like a concept for a game.
I once was able to refund a game where I played under 2 hours but was 3 weeks into owning the game (Just didn't have the time to play after purchase). I encountered a bug with the game that meant I had to completely restart the game from scratch, since I even tried reloading the save, and restarting the game. I said this to Steam, and was issued a refund. Steam's forgiving on the Refund as long as the game isn't in a good state usually. 2 hours/14 days is typically the no-question period, after that, they're on a "Why" basis, and if you give a good reason, they're usually very helpful.
8:35 That's a lovely idea but EA is the company whose entire business model is to buy companies that make good games, ruin everything the players like about the games, and then put out transparent duplicates year after year. Forever. Madden, FIFA, Battlefield, SimCity, etc. This is all they know how to do and they'll keep doing it until it sinks their company.
EA is a garbage company, but at this point, I don't feel bad for their customers. None of this is new information. Everybody knows EA is shit, and yet everyone acts like they didn't see it coming every month when they do some new shitty thing.
I have no respect or sympathy for anyone dumb enough to give EA money. Anyone who bought this game should have seen this coming. I'm especially disdainful of anyone who pre-ordered. There's simply no excuse for that kind of idiocy when the company has such a long track record of screwing up, screwing over, and scamming its customers with full price rereleases of old games. If they hadn't fucked 2042 up so badly, it would just be a quickly forgotten reskin of V anyway.
EA isn't going to learn from this because none of their executives are dying or going to jail over it. They'll probably all get bonuses. Next year they'll put out another battlefield game, and it'll be, at best, a reskin of the last three, and when they announce it, hordes of braindead morons will trample each other to throw money at EA for a game they could pick up for $5 at a used game store because it was already released eight times in the last decade. EA is garbage and their customers don't deserve pity or respect.
The simple lesson every gamer should have learned by now: Don't buy games Day 1. Don't believe the hype.
There's no reason why you should pay video game publishers to be their QA department.
Yup. Exactly. I learned this in 2008 with ea spore.
@@ohsnapsonbro4260 Yo, can I borrow your time machine for a sec?
@@BFBeast666 if I had one I would stop myself from being convinced by friends to buy destiny 2......didn't even buy at release.....that game literally killed my lust for shooters for like 2 years.
Today I even learned that the game is so broken and performance is so bad on PC that a cheating company doesn't even want to support cheats for BF2042. Which is nice because cheats should not be allowed anywhere but it's just funny and sad.
I got a refund from steam for 'Islands of Nyne' outside the 14 day window (flash-in-the-pan, battle-royale-bandwagon game from years ago) . I had only played one match months earlier but I was under 2 hours played limit.
I informed them that according to steam charts, the global concurrent player base was not enough to fill a single lobby. The number of players queued was even below the minimum threshold to start a partially-filled match.
It's a lot easier to get a refund from steam if you choose the "refund to my steam wallet" option rather than "refund to my bank account".
Never buying another EA game, this was really the last EA game i cared about and I am done. Absolute garbage. This is insane. What a disaster. BF5 had some issues, but its a masterpiece compared to this.
Battlefield V definitely deserved more support, especially more content. It's far better than this.
Buddy I stopped buying EA shit with Mass Effect Andromeda. Even though the star wars game was well received I didn't buy it. Fvck EA.
@@silentneo1431 I don't buy EA games, but I am a massive BF fan and even though 5 had issues it was still a solid game. This is the lowest DICE has ever sunk. They have never made a game this bad. This is next level garbage.
@@matthewlongo6404 I'm just glad people are waking up to this bs like you mate. Best of luck man! 👍
problem with v was the lack of content since the very start 1 campaing was missing test range same, no vehicles no armies nothing ,then theres the force inclusion with women in all the sides that pissed everyone .
I had spent over 500 hours on battlefield 4 when it came out, and this game makes me feel really sad.
I can’t help but feel that this is EA’s doing. Dice have been delivering rock-solid gaming experiences for years, so I why would they suddenly deliver such a sub-par experience?
Because the shareholders just want money from micro transactions and everything that EA touches eventually gets thrown out the window into the dumpster fire below it
The DICE studio that made Battlefield 1942 is not the same DICE that made 2042. Many employees have left the studio filled now with ingrates and inexperienced devs who do not share the same skillset or vision of the OGs
It's almost as if EA does it on purpose at this point, unreal the effort they put to go against their own players
I've been saying this for years to my buddies. They LOVE EAs shit, and I just cannot understand why. It really does seem like EA is doing it all out of spite.
@@ryanvandoren1519 Yeah I can kinda relate, there's a dude I know who's been buying exclusively fifa and cod games for the last 12 years, every.single.fucking.year, he never played anything else for more than a few hours other than those two piles of shit and I think fortnite, he can't just snap out of it. In his head this pathetic, endless loop is perfectly normal, no matter what I say to him, he will always buy those two fucking games as soon as they're released, no matter how bad or identical to the previous entries they are, this also implies he buys cosmetic bs and such of course... his thought process is just beyond me, though braindead people like him are why EA can afford to put out shitty, buggy and unfinished games and get away with it, the only thing they did right during the last 10 years it's been mass effect trilogy remastered which is, in fact, just a remastered.
@@deibu__ yeah EA is hopeless. Sounds like your buddy is stuck too deep with no way out! What platform you play on? We can play some games together sometime if ya want. I'm on pc.
There is an amount of arrogance, malice and neglect after which we cant say its EA alone. Dice is shit too and in cahoots with the publisher. We cant ignore this sad fact any longer. They tell you to fuck off on twitter and go directly against the communitys wishes. What they did to the Battlefront franchise opened my eyes. For me its over. Im done with them.
Don't be sad, Electronic Arts. It's just how it works out sometimes.
As in, when you release a Battlefield or Battlefront game.
Battlefront II has gotten much better, honestly. Still kicking, and constantly finding people. Same for V.
I remember I had a argument with a friend because when the first trailer dropped he was automatically in the hype train and was ready to preorder and everything. I told him that I wasn’t sure, I can’t trust these things anymore, they mastered the art of bullshitting a really nice trailer and giving me a bad product, I’ll just have to wait and see. I hate that I was right. The argument at the time was “Oh if this battlefield fails it’s all over so they won’t make it bad Im sure.” I don’t know why but the absolute second I saw the classes changed with Operators, I knew this wasn’t going to be good
I’m so glad I didn’t buy this disaster of a game. The beta alone drove me away. This wasn’t “2142 but different” and from what I’ve seen it isn’t even really In line with modern BF games. That’s wild glad I saved money and time
Steam: "Don't be sad. This is just how it works out sometimes."
EA does it again !
How come these people aren't being taken to court? How come this isn't classed as a complete scam? If I was a car dealer and I sold someone a car that was broken am I not liable for charges? How come DICE/EA aren't being arrested?
You can’t just arrest everyone because they created a bad game… Christ.
It doesn't work like that my guy
I went back to Battlefield 1, the multiplayer is genuinely 10/10. Not had this amount of enjoyment since going back to Halo 3 a few years later.
Yup, i agree. Battlefield 1 is the best battrlefield ever released.
I am laughing and crying same time as a Battlefield fan from the first BF ever. Only good thing is that i did not buy 2042 in advance and tried that shitshow first. I fear that this is the end of BF series. Or very close to it. EA and modern Dice can frak off.
Forgotten Hope?
They've got an enormous mountain to cilmb up against to get BF fans to purchase the enxt entry again should there be one.
I'm quite sure though, that they'll not be able to do so properly.
This might not be the direct end, it'll most certainly directly lead to it.
This is a massive reason why I don't pre-order or even purchase on launch AAA games. They are all being released as a half assed ""as a service"" game.
The publishers are effectively making it so the game isn't worth playing on release and is only really worth it after about a year. So why pay full price for a broken piece of crap product when you can pay half the price for a completed product.
I'm still surprised people bought this after the beta. It was a pretty clear-cut of what was going to be shipped.
I enjoyed the beta. But the bugs hid the core failures of the game. They fixed all of those beta bugs, but that just unveiled the chore behind them
I now make a motion to make “EA” stand for “Eternally Asinine”
I was on the fence, I was excited for a “bf3 2.0” as that was a sentiment I got from early descriptions of what their design directions for bf2042 were intending to be.
Glad I dodged that bullet.
Same, I wanted a BF3 remaster. Portal looked exactly like that. But I don't have a modern console or PC so didn't buy it (I don't buy games on release anyways, except maybe Elden Ring). Seeing how much of a disaster it was, I'm glad I barely looked its way. BF peaked at 3 imo and no other game has really been as good imo