EA & DICE Baffle Battlefield 2042 Players By Removing Rush Game Mode Despite Devs Being Asked Not To
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"Listening to the community is a legacy feature." Give that guy a medal
today someone commented i should delete all videos :( people can be so mean. but i dont care. i know im the best. i never give up. i am age 80+ and will never stop. thanks for caring, dear ju
@@AxxLAfriku What??
Not a legacy feature but more like Obsolete Feature.
To me it's more like and old legend that probably will never come true again.
@@grandadmiralthrawn9231 high-level troll post. Axxl makes massive amounts of comments in hopes of growing the channel going on for some years now.
The “our game failed due to our own greed so let’s actively sabotage it further so everyone leaves and we can blame it on ‘lack of interest’” strategy Avengers used, I see. Also known as the Anthem Gambit.
So well said I can only vote up once.
all 3 games should've been great and all 3 are less than a 5/10.
They should burn it, maybe people will give them exposure for doing that
idk, square could have easily turned avengers off by now and nobody would care, yet they keep "trying"
dont give em a dime they just shat all over the faces of gamers worldwide then lit it on fire thanks ea :D congrats on your impending doom battlefield players wont ever buy another dogshit game they pump out, make them work for once we already gave all our hope and they burnt that shit for 7+years
"Don't be sad, this is just how it works out sometimes" - DICE and EA probably
This dumpster fire keeps getting even more hilarious by the day
I can’t laugh personally, bf was such fun for years, peaking with 3-4. Now there probably won’t be a good bf again, maybe just another game similar but probably not doing everything bf did.
@@fromthefire4176 aye, its a damn shame how low DICE has fell, BF3 was awesome and 4 was alright, (BF4 did have a rocky launch, shit was understandably frustrating when game suddenly crashes after a start/end of a match)
@blackalfa That's pretty much what it is. And why I went back to BF4. The more I played 2042, the more I complained about it. And it did no good.
Angel does it again!
more like dice, ea, and the battlefield fanboys. I complained about how the game was playing like garbage and I was told if I don't like it to not play or just deal with it. I wonder how those people feel now with all the shit ea keeps dumping on them.
The community: "we just want you to listen to us for a couple of seconds!"
Dice: *screeches and removes rush from the game*
Dice: CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALALALA
"these expectations are brutal"
Expecting a finished product in exchange for our money is now entitlement and unreasonable.
That just shows you how lazy devs and their corporate overlords have gotten. Its a cancerous culture that expects huge payouts for the least effort. It doesn't stop with video games either. Its literally our whole world.
"I can't imagine they expect us to do the bare minimum!"
- AAA developers/publishers
Halo fans: "First time?"
@@chainuser1774 Devs at these studios crunch all the time. They're a lot of things, but lazy is not one of them.
@@RP-dy5mu This guy clearly doesn't know what is talking about, if he knew how software development is done he would not have written that nonsense.
Taking Rush out of a Battlefield game is literally like taking Search and Destroy out of Call of Duty
Or SWAT out of Halo
They added it, but it was planned to be an event only playlist. Example still stands
Next they'll be taking Conquest away too
@@rileymachelle4088 don’t give them any ideas
Eh all the kids love TDM, they'll be fine
@@CMTechnica no one likes playing SWAT.
Its ironic, ppl want SWAT/ Tactical slayer made into the game, after it arrived ppl hated to play it
"I've defended this game..."
Seriously why do people still have faith in EA/DICE?
Because they are soulless husks that cling on to anything and including the continuous suckling on the teet of the EA.
Will it ever change? No. A new battlefield comes out and this husks will be there to defend it again. Sad
Lol "Stockholm syndrome", get it? Cause... DICE Stockholm... eheh... you can kill me now.
People hitching their personalities on a company that doesn’t know they exist nor cares for them. Battered Spouse Syndrome.
Alternative is activsion . Heck what game makers aren’t like this. Certainly not Ubisoft. Video game industry as whole is just shit now. This released super badly broken games and maybe fix them later. Tv makers are doing it too. As someone else said could you imagine if a car maker released a car with horrible problems and said oh well we’re work on fixing it. They’d be shut down and forced to recall all the cars.
Essentially what I'm getting from their stance on the Rush mode is that as a company they want to use it as a leverage of a "Fear of Missing Out" kind of game mode and have it as a way to garner player retention when they want. The issue is however that it's a STAPLE OF BATTLEFIELD, not some limited time mode that you pull and add at will.
Not to mention without it then player retention right now drops even further and so do possible recovery outlooks.
Rush hasnt been a "staple" since bf3 lol
Bf4's rush was an afterthought because of the conquest-centric maps, bf1's rush was the worst version of the mode yet with awful map varients (conquest suffered too, the maps, especially the DLC's, were meant for operations) and outright dumb balancing, and I couldnt even tell you if rush was even in 5, because Ive never heard of it in the game
I can only speak for myself but if you remove the one game mode I enjoy playing I’m not sticking around to play the ones I hate.
@@rdowg rush is rush my man it will and always be great
Halo Infinite tried the same thing and got absolutely *rolled.* SWAT, Fiesta, and Free for all were all planned as limited time events, but after the first one (which was Fiesta) they folded under the deafening negative feedback.
I don’t sympathize with anyone at EA at all. These are not “brutal expectations” they failed to meet the bare minimum.
But expectating a working scroeboard is brutal ...
That’s not EA my guy, thts DICE lol… DICE clearly sucks and is shot out which is why EA made the decision to move Vince from Respawn (an actual good developer) over
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Disney is the same as EA but for movies and they don't give the die hard fans what they want anymore. Their love for physical media has truly died. Just look at their latest release 'Pirates of the Caribbean - Curse of the Black Pearl' horrible 4K HDR transfer. Just a cheap cash-grab. The older Blu-ray was a lot better!
@@KC_50 EA has made DICE this way, they do this with every development company eventually just look at Bioware.
The Community: "We like this mode"
Dice: "Got it. Remove it."
The activision way 🙌
The BFV technique
What a standard! Can't wait to see the upcoming NFT BF failure!
@@ricardohoang8452 "Introducing...Rush NFTs"
@@ShudowWolf Shit! Thanks ME3 endings and Andromeda have taught big lessons from EA 🤣
I love to see games like ready or not, insurgency, or hell let loose take the fight to these big companies.
It really shows just how skilled the smaller companies are and how pathetic these big studio’s are nowadays.
Agreed. Dropped this game and went over to HLL. Having 10x more fun and I'm significantly worse at the game 😂
Same man i am dog shit at hell let loose but having way more fun and satisfied playing it than 2042, these developers from top to bottom all have there heads up there ass man cuz if I had a job making video games I would want it be what the game to meet the community’s expectations and if the heads up top aren’t doing that I would leave flipping them all of fuck dice and ea
Blame the shareholders and all the people that set these schedules so they can make THEIR money
@@Wulfen109 i blame rock music
Insurgency while its a good game the devs are trying to every now and then push the same stupid goofy skins, so im skeptical on cosmetics and where insurgency might be going since these “attempts at improving the game” are becoming more frequent
I miss the days where DLC never existed. Or if it did it was just optional map packs. There was always a level playing field that way and to keep the game alive the devs had to connect with their players and enjoy the experience along with us to understand the health of the game. Now it's like a D&D game with a crappy DM and he hides all the good stuff behind a pay wall.where has the joy gone?
"I am not overconfident, I am just better than everyone else" - DICE
Yeaahhh, EA does it again! 💪
Imagine soldiers saying this while defending Moscow from nazi Germany. This devs are clowns.
@@Stockfish1511 Well, well, well, that was fun!
-Some Soviet soldier in Stalingrad, 1942
"I am not overconfident, I just have so many fans and game simps that would give me their money over the shittiest mediocre game."
@@deNNyTheWiseMAN1 ”that was something right” said an allied soldier after taking omaha beach smh
"Too high an expectation" = "how dare you expect us to release a Battlefield game that resembles a Battlefield game. What do you think we are, a respectable game company?"
Seems like just expecting a finished game is "Too high an expectation" at this point.
"Love letter" effect 👏👏
The release state sure resembled the usual release state of a BF since at least BC 2.
People preaching to "never buy another DICE / EA game again" forget that every boycott and every hate train is just one 3-minute trailer away from being turned around. Once that BF theme rolls around, people will pre-order.
They’re haemorrhaging more and more players every release
@@Ssm19494 they are but those same players will come back as soon as a new battlefield comes out. It’s a cycle we have seen time and time again.
@Mr. Jack Are you referring to the VR game Pavlov, or Ivan Pavlov who experimented with classical conditioning?
@hunter norton I got the premium edition for $5. Pretty fun game tbh, just some stuff doesn't make much sense like the nydar optics and women, but overall pretty fun game with good mechanics and gunplay.
U right. I pre ordered every BF since BF3. I kept all of them even if i dont enjoy / play em that much. i did pre order BF2042 too. And i refunded it !! like many others did. its not abaout Pre Ordering. its about making sure u can refund it.
Thing is, we as Battlefield players have been telling DICE and EA for more then 3 freaking years of what we wanted for a new Battlefield title. They worked on the title for 3...freaking...years.. All during the time, they KNEW what we wanted...but went a completely opposite direction, now they are playing the victim.
I hold no sympathy for anyone working for either DICE or EA.
As for Andy, he should have never even tweeted..
The game (including the Battle Royale version) was made in roughly 8 months. 3 years? Yeah... I wish it took that long. Then maybe Battlefield wouldn't feel like CoD, Have no content worth a fuck, none of that Specialist crap, none of that "Anti-Toxicity" crap like no Scoreboard and no VOIP, and shitty gunplay even by Call of Duty's standard. I love Battlefield, always have since BF1942. But there is no way you can defend BF2042. EA (Upper management at DICE is also to blame for Battlefield's irreversible state) just won't back the hell off and let a franchise go on being great. They think monetizing every aspect of it will increase revenue. Funny thing is, if they stepped back a little, let their Devs have creative freedom (and not shut down most of their studios), they'd be making 10-fold of what they are now from Madden. But hey, I'm just a consumer who doesn't know better because I'm not some multimillionaire, or some head of a massive company.
Imagine paying $70 + tax for a game that is now selling for 5$ a couple of weeks later. I have no sympathy for the suckers that bought it early, after all these years of gaming they still haven't learned their lesson. Stop pre-ordering games, stop buying them until you view videos with actual gameplay on a site like UA-cam.
I don't think they will ever learn though.
It was my first time pre ordering a game, I came from bf4 and watching all the trailers I got so excited until the specialist and the beta state, but I had hope, first and last fucking time I do that dumb choice
I tried to tell my friend not to buy the game. I even showed him all the reasons not to and he still bought it. Theres no saving him. And theres no saving alot of others that are willfully ignorant.
@@metalerox3 Yeah, that's why they spend millions on trailers and marketing.....
BF1 was the only game I ever preordered in my life, haven’t since and gladly won’t with the current direction games are going, a gaming crash is going to happen soon because it will be too expensive to release a new game that won’t deliver, at least for the triple AAA part of the industry for Activision and EA
Console gamers in a nutshell.
Clownfield 2042
Don't disrespect that true game! This EA/DICE 20-42 fps is a "love letter" to piss the kids who overhyped the trailers for months off
Up there with Battlefield 20-42 fps. Keep the memes coming.
@@ricardohoang8452 i had so much hope from those trailers. now im playing tarkov instead of entertaining this company
Clownfield 2077*
wait, how can you guys get above 25fps? I'm playing on slideshow mode
"We lied and stole their money, how dare they be mean to us!"
This is why I refuse to pre-order, buy "deluxe editions" or buy a game in general anymore before seeing reviews and gameplay. There have been to many instances where games have promised soooo many things and fell more than short I wouldn't mind if they delayed the games even through the holiday period if it meant that the game would come out playable and full of content. Especially with the base price of games going up I think that's a basic ask. I understand that with everything in the world going on delays are more than likely going to happen so just let them happen and stop launching broken promises or early access versions of the game that take a year to fix just to get them out the door. I miss the days when games launched as a complete experience and if you were really lucky you got DLC because the game performed well. now its all about how can we make the most amount of money and milk these franchises for all they are worth instead of truly innovating and creating new masterpieces. Its a shame.
When reading reviews, DO NOT listen to journalists
Yea same reading reviews and watching gameplay allows me to make a final decision if the game is worth my time.
@@luosiger I suggest you avoid journalists
@@johnshea7871 Already know to do that
I only buy the games on launch for 5 dollars lol
The only thing we expected was a finished game. That’s it. I was not expecting a masterpiece or a game of the year, just a newer complete battlefield experience and they couldn’t do it. The old devs behind the old games are most likely gone, DICE is not DICE anymore. This just makes me so sad man, it’s depressing as a fan.
All the veteran Devs left after BF1 and during BFV development due to creative differences, and started up their own studio Embark. Once I found that out I refunded my copy. This game will never be like the previous titles no matter what.
Their the ones making Arc Raiders
Expecting a finished game????? From Dice????
Are you mad????
I can't even remember a finished product in terms of Battlefield. I guess BF1 was pretty decent but that's about it.
@@juliorodriguez6156 Not just Dice, but from any developer in this age of gaming
Gotta love that we’ve now reached the stage of “Games as a service” actually removing content instead of adding it lol. Can’t say I’m even shocked at this point I’ve just given up on the Games Industry
Agreed, I stopped playing D2 because of the Content Vault
Bungie started doing this a year ago with destiny 2, and people are okay with it. Gaming is fucked
@@linkkraft3358 I miss the time when games released around 90% bug free and got good DLC that actually added to the game experience instead of being just a shameless cash grab
@@linkkraft3358 I supported the game for years only for the stuff I actually bought to be removed completely (and about to be removed in February apparently)
People seem to love it though. Grinding Gear Games totally reworked their game to remove content in Path of Exile and, most players, they cheered it on. Same thing with FFXIV. I’m calling these people body snatchers.
This needed to happen unfortunately, Activision, Rockstar, CDPR, EA Dice have all released broken shit. What disappoints me most is the acceptance that “it’s ok, we will fix it”…….I’m having a blast on BF1. A cinematic masterpiece and probably among the last of the great games to be released 😊
Also Bioware's mass effect andromeda
Bf1 was the same on release lol.not functioning, barely any content.
@@OukiLips people seem to forget this bf release is the same as every other one so far
Its really just the specialists and optimisation
@Ouki Lips Not true! Played it on Day1 and it was great.
@@derbeleidiger4500 true bf1 was functioning it was just lacking content but bf2042 is the most broken bf and i don't think it will be fixed. I played every single one on release since bfbc2
"these expectations are brutal"
Well fuck me sideways, how dare people who spent money on your game expect a finished, unbuggy experience. He's totally right here, people should just pay EA for broken products and stop complaining.
Also this has been going on for a while now, people need to stop buying EA games on launch, many have been saying this for at least half a dozen years....
"Can't work miracles"
But they sure can ship a broken game just fine, alongside bundles that cost an arm and a leg.
Meanwhile, paying customers are wondering if they'll ever get their money's worth.
They wont as long as they continue to pay for mediocre broken games
Todd: So disappointing!
@@magneric If the game is busted, it ain't even mediocre, just bad.
The way these AAA game developers act is a bigger mystery than the universe.
Not really, the Twitter idiots and the game dev community overlap completely.
It's simple, really. Greed
@@akmal94ibrahim How is it greed when their decisions act against generating revenue?
@@pearsonpeng3685 Exactly, they seem fully devoid of logic, it's bizarre really
Sgt Schultz, you know nothing about this man. No one does your right lol
Yong, usually I'm with you 100% man, but this time you missed the mark.
The fact you expect a usable product when you pay for it is unreasonable.
You can do better.
Yeah, it's 2022, come on
Lol
Get with the times
DICE has the Battlefield formula: the maps, the weapons, the vehicles, the classes, the combat, the atmosphere. But they decide to use none of that.
They could have remastered BF3 and BF4 with better movement mechanics and an upgrade in graphics and I would have been happy. Although at this point I think BF4 on my base PS4 looks better than 2042 at the moment.
The largest developers and publishers, for a long while now, have been blatantly acting as if caring about the games they make is simply too much to ask of them. Seriously how many times have we heard these same kinds of dismissive, passive aggressive, customer blaming tweets and comments from development and publishing companies? How many years has it been that we've been hearing these same exact things?
I mean people who make tangible things can be expected to produce a certain level of quality, and that's across a lot of imperfect copies. How is it that you can't expect a level of quality from media that is copied perfectly at the press of a button. You have to get it right once, everyone else has to do a million times over. We need to stop taking these excuses.
@@ragnarok7976 Precisely. If one makes a product with the intent of selling said product for money to consumers who will buy said product then one must make goddamn sure the product one makes is first and for most worth the money that they're asking for. For real that's business 101. I can't imagine ANYONE working for these companies, from top level to bottom level, would have zero complaints about buying broken defective products in their own personal lives. It's products like BF 2042 that further prove the point of just how disconnected the gaming industry has become. Sadly, the making of games and the playing of games are no longer part of the same community
I have not played these kind of shit games for years since people started spouting "don't plaY tHeRe gAmEs tHAtLL shOw them" in like 2015. There's just too many gullible people / underage kids who don't know any better buying the game. I'm sure people have stopped buying there products it's just not enough to do anything because a fresh new wave of dumbasses is always in stock to consume this garbage content. The issue stems from you even buying the game in the first place from a developer that has been known to be shit since 2010
Supposedly to fight diminishing marginal utility? If it's perfect at launch, ppl would get less satisfaction from it as time goes on and since it's already perfect, you can't improve upon it.
But if it's shit at launch, you can improve upon it slowly over time until you've milked it to the last drop. And since those improvements are what you actually scrapped from it, you don't have to actually spend that much time and money on "improving" it.
That's my theory on their thought process, anyway. Fuck them all.
The worst part is that it'd be trivial to dodge this.
Aside from the obvious "go indie" route, just don't buy certain franchises or from certain publishers. Or games that are obviously overhyped and look unfinished.
I have bought AAA titles well into 2021 and never been disappointed by, as much as I hate that word normally, not acting like a stupid sheep that'll either just buy the same shitty title year for year or just follow every hypetrain ever.
Imo, if you even have the tiniest bit of due diligence done, you'll know if a game's gonna be good or not.
Pretty bold of them saying that the consumers are asking for too much when they're not even providing a fully-fledged game that works
I’m not sure “bold” is the right word for this…
I think they’re trying to purposely implode battlefield as a whole. They want to push for a COD like franchise. They know they can’t do this with BF brand name. So you kill it, rebrand as something new and voila you have a new franchise that’s greats towards skins, battle passes, and so on. You don’t think every pixel and marketing term is looked over? Sure they rush through a lot. But every aspect of a game is signed off on. Every penny spent is agonized by whole departments. Nothing about this was an error. EA wants never ending money rolling in, BF as a franchise can’t do that. They’re gonna choke this game to death pushing out the loyal fan base that’s been around for years. Then create another game that’s geared towards heavy monetization.
They can literally do that by not making a Battlefield game and just making the new game on its own.
EA has killed numerous studios and game series, DICE and Battlefield aren't immune to this.
@@hydroaegis6658 yeah but then the new game would have to compete with COD and BF. if you remove BF from the equation then you have a better chance
I downloaded Battlefield 1 just to stroll through memory lane, and Omg I forgot how memorable these maps are. The atmosphere and music is brilliant.
At this point if you willingly buy Battlefield 2042, you deserve to be robbed by EA again.
They may as well pull this game from the market. They're literally doing EVERYTHING wrong with it.
I would have SO much respect for EA/Dice if they came in and said, "Hey, we know we messed up big time. We are gonna UN-release BF2042. We will throw it back into the development oven for another 6-12 months and release it again when it's actually done"
The only bf game I ever refunded. It's not even a battlefield game...
At all. Can’t talk to the team, nothing destructible, camping is *CRAZY* , no vehicles, it’s whack for real. Me and my Cousin are waking up more and more, cause this game is not battlefield it’s just not.
Thing is, I have not seen any of these supposed "death threats" or "harassment". This sounds like the developers are using those as buzzwords to disregard the mountains of valid criticism being thrown their way. All the posts I see on the 2042 subreddit are rightfully laughing at this train wreck of a game and calling out the companies involved. The devs aren't some purely innocent party in this stuff.
Its the same excuse 343 said about infinite. Reddit peice of shit mods censoring and saying death threats happened is not believable.
True. Some people just feel inclined to blame EA as if they’re the soul decision maker in the development of BF games. but dice themselves make many of these decisions including many of the financial decisions. EA just sets the bottom line and dice have to figure out how to achieve their desired earnings. DICE is just as much at fault.
I expect there will be a small amount of people who will misbehave, but that shouldn't ruin it for everyone else. If it is being dealt with efficiently then the mods are just complaining about doing their job. Unless there's an unusually large amount of it, it's just something that happens on the internet. (not excusing that or saying it's right, of course)
When the mods and game staff write their responses like this, it gives the impression that their ego is hurt by normal, sane feedback.
I'm sure some people sent death threats however that's most likely a handful of people. I would recommend not buying anything from DICE in the future. The last battlefield I bought was bf1 and I'm happy playing bf3/4.
@@keonkla I don't want to defend 343 but as a member of the halo community.. wow we have some real passionate fans
“The things you want take time to scope, design and execute.” But you had already scoped designed and executed this in previous Battlefield games, and that’s why you do it before launching the game. You don’t start building a bridge and then stop halfway because you forgot how to build it, is the expectation of a functional bridge that’s been built many times before really too much to ask?
Not the same people that worked on the previous battlefield titles same with cod none of the same people are working there thats why both games are shit
@@urgaiey1358 You're not wrong, but holy shit how are they not capable of delivering even a stable and polished experience at the very least? Who the hell are they hiring?
@@urgaiey1358 That may be the case but maybe they shouldn't be in charge of making a multi-million dollar bridge if they literally can't complete it.
In the future they are working on a new model of selling an empty case with a pencil sketch of the games concept and a couple of stick men shooting at each other.. or just an NFT of the stick man drawing.. with IOU battlefield game scrawled bellow.. on the reverse ‘these things take time to scope and design’ … outrageous expectations..
The golden era has passed my friends
No Man's Sky took possibly the biggest online beating in history and they took it like a champ. And mind you, they are an INDIE studio. WTF are they doing? Honestly? Threatening silence? That's bound NOT to go down well. If anything, THEY are the ones who should shut the f- up and continue working on making their game better.
Wasn't No Man's Sky taken over by another studio after its disastrous launch?
@@Firellius Nope, same people kept working on it and eventually it turned out to be a pretty solid game with a loyal fanbase.
A UA-camr named Internet Historian did a great documentary on the history of No Man's Sky and Hello Games in general
It took No Man’s Sky like 2-3 years to fix the game though. It’s also not a game that requires dozens of players to be playing on the screen at once. Not defending EA or Dice but those are 2 different types of games
@@toptiertech7291 it took Hello Games 2-3 years because they were an INDIE company. It's all about resources, and DICE should have plenty.
@@grenzviel4480 Yeah but No Mans Sky is honestly a 10000x game easier to develop than a game like battlefield. Dozens of players, vehicles, guns, sounds, leaderboards, HUDs and 100s of more things that No Man’s Sky didn’t have to worry about. All they needed was to create very similar planets just with a randomizer
Rush was literally the only thing of potential in Battlefield lmao.
We Want:
-Joinable Squads/Bigger Squads
-Voice Chat
-All Chat
-A Scoreboard
-More Main Gamemodes
-Removal Of Cringe Voice Lines
Oh the horror, such brutal expectations.
Its honestly funny people want the same thing again but maybe a bit different and a bit better and they can't even manage that
1st person executions and revives?
- Class system
Hey, you could get all of that in Battlefield 4. A nearly 10 year old game somehow has more features than a few month old game, kinda depressing when you think about it
@@calebc5057 remember the Commander mode on iPad where you could admin squads real-time and do a bunch of things… on a iPad. Lol Jesus
Can someone explain how the consumer is being held to a higher standard than the multimillion dollar game company?
Capitalism it's called capitalism Pickle.
They have millions of dollars but money doesnt buy talent
A multimillion dollar company has some brutal expectations.
@@justinreid2947 Sorry but that's not capitalism that's called shifting blame communists would know of that the best.
@Justin Reid it's corporatism, capitalism didn't do this to the consumer...capitalism allows for these kinds of product to be made, corporatism is them not giving a fuck about the quality of said product in favor of short term gain/greed.
Anybody remember when Bobby Kotick said he "Wants to remove the fun of making games"
That one phrase seems to have had a massive influence on whats going on these days.
Anything fun and enjoyable must be removed from gaming according to him and looks what's happening.
When expecting a game to work is 'brutal expectations'
Ok. At this point, THIS just looks they are purposelly trolling us at this point.
Those "richkids" and supporters who expected the "love letters" are crying out loud in the corners! Every single year EAids and their studios created so many piece of typical trolling things!
well the game its already dead by this point. but i wonder if they ever meet some financial quotes . did it sell more copies than BFV ? dill it have more preorders than BFV?
I blame all the people i saw running around with season pass skins in the first month of the games’ release.
They are. They hate their customers and would gladly spit on anyone buying their products. Yet people don't learn.
*"Let's be civil and respectful"* but it's okay to swindle people into buying a broken product that's unfinished, where is the respect there? A refund must be allowed, hate when people downplay the death threats because these companies are the ones that are manifesting it.
Yeah, respect is a two way street. One is not _entitled_ to respect, one _earns_ it.
SPOT ON.
It was obvious that the game was going to be broken at launch at this point I blame the brain dead consumers who are too stupid to learn the lesson game studios have been teaching them for over 10 bloody years
what swindling? did they force you to pre-order or buy day one? for game is known to take away features the community enjoys? fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on you, fool me 10 times, shame on you... I'm not defending them, but take some responsibiliy. why put out a complete game when you're going to give them $70 for a game half done?
EA "swindling" a person into buying a BF game at launch is like the sun "swindling" a person into thinking it's the moon. And the death threats are never ever necessary, especially against lower level employees but even against the higher ups it's just insanely dumb.
If you've ever worked with DICE you'll know how unfathomably lazy and egocentric they are. I was a contractor at EA for 13 years and Battlefield was the only project I asked to be removed from. They are a terrible studio. Then I got assigned to Crytek, who are amazing.
Toxicity is a product of anger.
Just like how good players who do right by their teammates rarely are on the receiving end of toxicity, devs who do right by their consumers rarely are on the receiving end of toxicity.
Sorry, but I have as little sympathy for devs who mess up like this as I do for women who seek out felons and then wonder why they get their asses beat.
“You’re not supposed to be playing! You’re supposed to be paying!”
That’s the vibe I get nowadays from game companies
Watch "Let's go whaling", a UA-cam copy of a presentation given to mobile game developers that discusses every known technique (at the time) to exploit psychology to extract maximum return from gamers
@@ThePlayerOfGames
That's why console wallet vampires fail. Console gamers are smarter than mobile gamers, but not PC gamers, who are the peak of the community.
Remember when EA were calling anyone who complained "entitled"? EA's been this way for a long time. Activision too.
This what people deserve by still buying EA games. Why would you expect anything other than a massive dumpster fire.
Edit:
There is a great video from almost a decade ago called "why EA treats you like a little bitch" and it's depressing that even after almost ten years it's, if anything, more applicable now then it was at time of release.
I would get a refund if I still could. I waited too long.. 😔 modern gaming is frustrating.
People need to stop being so gullible and complacent with mediocrity.
They throw money at garbage games and then wonder why everything keeps going downhill
This is why I encourage mocking and ridiculing these people
Sometimes the problem isn't necessarily the company making cheep cash grabs it's the people funding them over and over again.
If people won't learn to stop making bad purchases then they need to be shamed into not supporting these kinds of business practices.
While I'm not a battlefield fan I know the sickening feeling of watching tons of fools flock to a bad entry in your favorite game series that has all the obvious red flags of being a underdeveloped cash grab and then when you point that out to them they try and make you the bad guy.
Or even worse they agree with you and then act as if they had no idea it would be so bad as if just a little research into a purchase is too difficult for them.
It's frustrating but it shows that some people need shame in order to hopefully better themselves.
@@slipknuts Maybe take this as a learning lesson, don't buy games from trash companies even if they dangle a shiny item in front of your face.
I still can't believe people bought this game day 1 after the last few Dice games
No one deserves this.
Reminds me of when 343 had to "investigate the feasibility of adding Team Slayer" into Halo Infinite...
EA Logic: If they like this mode so much then they'll have to keep playing until it comes back in rotation!
Don’t be sad, this is just how EA and DICE work it out sometimes.
They need to pay for it.
Once people stop buying their games they will.
@@BlahBohogun im pretty sure a lot of people didnt buy or refund the game . farming simulator has more players bfv has more players pepa the pig has better reviews .
THAT WAS SOMETHING RIGTH
then they shouldn't be sad when nobody ever buys their shit games again or trusts them
Community: "I expect the game to work at release when I buy it"
Andy: "those expectations are too high and brutal"
Patrick: „don’t like it, don’t buy it“
@@smilingbandit4975 I haven't ;)
If you expected that from a BF then yeah, those expectations are way too high. The franchise has had like one decent release state since at least BC2.
@@smilingbandit4975 We should've thanked Patrick for those wise words! Because that game only run in from 20 to 42 fps 😂
Isn't it funny that the expectation of a working product is now seen as "too high and brutal"? Tells you all you need to know about the future of the "dribble ay" industry. They have not much future left.
DICE is the only game company that will take your $60-120, crap in your hand and ask you "what were you expecting, we dont have the tech to give you a video game, stop being needy"
It's not even just EA at this point, even during battlefront 2 or bf5, all the devs were shit talking customers left and right as if they were above criticism.
"If you dont like it, dont buy it"
"We dont have the tech to provide double xp"
"My 11 year old daughter wants women in a rated M ww2 video game"
"Legacy features like scoreboard, squad management, etc"
"These expectations are brutal"
"2042 is months ahead of schedule"
"Portal is a love letter to the fans"
We could, and should, gather up all of DICE's quotes since the old guard left after bf1, we could publish them as a cautionary tale towards game devs.
Yeah, this incessant need to not shit on Devs is a part of the problem. DICE has lost its magic and vision, simple as is. Microtransactions aside, there are way too many shitty gameplay and creative decisions in 2042 to just lay blame on EA. DICE and EA both dropped the ball, and this isn't the first time.
I just love the downfall of "AAA" games and the whole games as a service bs.
Vote with your wallets, people!
I feel like they _know_ what’s common sense, and someone in charge just has an intense grudge against the very concept, and is actively doing everything in their power to wage war on it even if it drags down everyone and everything else around it.
But you see, if it doesn't net the most amount of money in short term, they don't gonna do it
That's the goal for EA... sadly DICE are dragged down with it.
EA has too much to say about any game they publish. Wich is sad and ultimately appauling.
They're just subverting our expectations.
They arw being charitable duh, they are wasting money so the people who need it cant bug them!
I wasnt aware EA hired Rian Johnson
>These expectations are brutal.
>The things you want take time to scope, design, and execute.
Ok, then the game should not been released pre-holidays. It's not the buyer's fault to have been expecting a decent product at release, as with any product in general.
I haven't gotten this much entertainment from a game I didn't buy since Fallout 76. Also, I never put any blame on the ground floor devs in situations like this. I blame literally everyone else at the company
Devs can choose where they work, no one forces them to work for someone who scams people. When they do, they become scammers themselfes. Stick it with your "ooooo booohooo pooor devs they are not responsible".
Yes they are. Don't let them forget it ever
Idk. I’m not going to completely blame someone who needs a paycheck.
Companies are much less likely to hire you if you quit. Fucking gamers.
@@cryandruboneout7133 Who cares if scammers go without a job?
Players and reviewers: "BF2042 is an incomplete product."
DICE: "That's still too much content!"
The Anthem example you gave was a decision made by money. More loot means less grind. Grind means stagnant gains, which is potential to sell boosters and weapons and anything in between. Their greed was a bit too heavy handed. The plan to suck more money ended up backfiring and losing them money in the end. Rush for Battlefield is the same. Knowing Rush is a staple and the suits just see a DLC - Season Pass opportunity. Mark my word. Rush will be back but you will pay in someway for it. Season Pass, DLC or however clever way they can shoehorn it in for money.
ME3 endings and Andromeda taught me those lessons
5 dollars per match.
That was my initial thought as well. Because it's so loved it will be back, but you have to give them your mulah in order to play.
This sucks because it doesn't sound farfetched at all for AAA devs to do this anymore. They don't care about making games FUN, and would rather make things that suck money out of people.
If they want us to care about the lore, put out a campaign. When I played BF3 and 4, and I saw the maps where I'd played in the campaigns, I'd point at the screen like Leonardo DiCaprio, and smile for a moment, knowing the context of the area I'm fighting in.
8:28 "We will address it when we're at a 100%"
Or you could just release your game when it's at 100% before charging your customers 100%.
rush has always been my favorite mode since bad company 2, it felt more like a real battle over conquest. I can understand some people prefer conquest because its longer in lenght but the operations mode in BF1 was a perfect mix of conquest and rush eaven the battlefront 2 version was pretty cool but way too short but there is no excuse to remove it from battlefield now. EA sacrificed the campaing with the excuse of ''more budget and time to make the multiplayer better'' and what we got? possibly the worst multiplayer experience in a battlefield game.
Yea ! Always loved Rush mode . Its a simple linear battle . Offense vs Defense, nice and simple 👌.
@@brinshido3953 its just better all round, focused objectives, a clear front line, pushing forward, no back spawning etc. I always felt conquest was weak and pointless, like playing wack a mole capturing and recapturing flags over and over, with the central flag being the only area anyone fights over.
Thank you for bringing up Operations from BF1. That alone made that game so much more fun. That felt like a genuine battle as you push through or push back enemy lines, and was only made better by the genuine WW1 feel the game offered.
Rush mode is still in the game you need to use browser community tab. Or make the modes yourself.
Yea its dont that its not on front page but its dice.
@@TheMADmk exactly! Well said 👏
I’m really glad I stopped playing/buying “tripleA” games years ago. All these big games made by big companies have all just plummeted in quality over the years, focusing more and more on game monetization rather than the actual game. Indie games have been getting better and better and it seems a lot of people are getting on the indie train and I’m all for it. Better games for lower prices 9/10 times
I love paying for games that I feel like I want to give even more money to the developers because you can see how much care they put into the user experience, indie gaming is the way to go from now on
Same with me. If I do buy a triple A game, it's on the secondhand market.
Would you mind recommending some indie games? I want to see if I can get more into them.
@@oni1261 With more alt games that aren’t the classic “shoot ‘em up” style as previously mentioned, I personally recommend Inscryption (escape-room/mystery) and Rogue Legacy (platformer). Also Minecraft is a solid one that has lasted for years and is incredibly popular. Genshin Impact is also a really beautiful and non scummy free-to-play game that recently had a PC port.
@President Power plenty to choose,depends what you like,I'd recommend looking up star renegades,dead cells,Hades,hollow knight,children of morta,enter the gungeon,inscription,darkest dungeon,stardew valley,those are some of my favourites but honestly,there's so many great games,well worth looking up some yt videos maybe?idk.
AAA Video Game Corporations:
- Promotes or pretends not to see abuses and terrible work environments;
- Launches incomplete, broken and soulless games, with the only thing working being the excessive amount of monetization;
- Do nothing to fix it;
- Move on.
AAA Video Game Corporations after players get mad:
"We're being harassed and getting death threats 😢 (they're not), we'll hear you but please let's be civil (they won't)."
Saw a “Free Play Weekend Ad” for BF 2042.
I wouldn’t even play that shit for free. That’s like someone showing up with shit in their hands, asking if you want to play with it. That’d be a no.
First “a sense of pride and accomplishment,” now “brutal expectations”. EA and it’s studios are the masters of tone deaf statements
Can't forget "Surprise Mechanics" as well
Amazing that one company could absolutely tank two Massive Multiplayer games so easily (Anthem, BF:2042) and make an broken Madden game every year. Why do people even buy these games?
Complacency, Denial, lack of intelligence, no morals at all etc.
People actually think DICE is still a good company. Remember when they fixed BF4, the best BF, they can do it again right?
Because people are stupid.
@@justcows7772 it is now.
The "That was fun." Line really rubs the wrong way. My mother and father are veterans. They both have PTSD there is nothing fun about war!
Those kind of comments always rub me the wrong way too. It's one thing if you're portraying some deranged person who got into a war effort just for the highs and excuses to kill or something but... I really don't appreciate when games make their general soldier characters act as if they're going for a hot night out to play beer pong or paintball, or just really making light of war in general at all. Always disliked it.
I think these character designers have seen far too many Vin Diesel action movies.
You know what was a bug back in the day? Combos in Street Fighter II. They weren't intended, it's just how the game handled hitstun and blockstun and people found that you could combo the opponent with it. People loved it and learned more of the game from discovering it. Did Capcom remove combos?
No. They heard the players. They listened. And they improved on how combos worked and kept them in the following fighting games they made. Combos are an awesome part of fighting games now and can make matches super hype. It started out like Anthem's loot fountain bug but unlike that one, Capcom kept it in and improved on it in every fighting game after. As a result, many people still play Street Fighter games to this day.
Those were beautiful times, it all started from players that exploited the matrix, if you will. Cheers 🍻
If you ever buy a Battlefield game again, you are beyond hope.
If they actually improve i see no problem but....thats implying it will.
I stopped at BF4.
@@Zer0megaXX The thing is that people always say "Oh this one is looking good!" when they see the trailer of a game or first gameplay, they buy, give their money to these companies and then start trashing the game after they realized it's bad or even worse than the previos ones, the thing is.... You already gave your money, they already made millions
I'll just wait
@@nexusyang4832 You should play Battlefield One (get it used if possible to avoid giving them money). The campaign is pretty good, the multiplayer was enjoyable, and the tone isn't this wacky shit that V and 2042 went for.
How is it so hard to understand that people wont care about the lore of a game if the game itself isnt good?
I'm not even sure what people mean by "lore" in this context. I take lore to be a deep context , a framing of the circumstances in which the game is set. There is no single player so no lore from there. BF has always in Multiplayer been a basic trope, win or lose , either personally or as a team in a well understood framework of game mechanics, it's lore generally is a paragraph, ~"you fight him because of mother insult , or just for the kicks". It's not deep, its not intrinsically funny or sad, its not having empathy for "the engineer" because the love of his life was run over by a tank, or had an unfortunate TV missile incident. You can't romanticize fighting on map "X" as lore as the tweet suggested, even if you could who cares.
When they say "lore" for BF , what do they mean???
Their is no "Lore" here, their just trying to come up with a reason why the fight is happening and to try to drum up some interest for their sh1t game. The whole "story" they came up with is EX pats? But it makes no sense, their are Americans and German grannies fighting for Russia? And identical clones fighting g for the US? They couldn't even get the f' ing tone right! Glad I had not much interest in this game from the start.
What lore
Starting to wonder if these AAA companies are purposely ruining video games, it's beyond incompetence
This reminds me of when they changed the TTK in BF V. A baffling change that makes no sense and that no one really asked for. It's decisions like that that go beyond incompetence and are bafflingly stupid.
Amazing, they literally had to do NOTHING for once to please players, and they still mess it up…
EA are the greatest “salesmen” of all time with how they are still able to get people to buy their games.
Like a politician, it's all just marketing
not so much, a lot of gamers are just too greedy to wait on reviews before they purchase.
Madden mlb and sports stuff
Because a tiny tiny percentage of people know about any of this stuff or even care. Most gamers don't watch anything about games on UA-cam.
The last EA games I bought were Bad company 1, 2, Bf3, and Bf4. I've been enjoying watching the dumpster fire that is 2042 lol
Truth, well said.... also what happened to demo and trials for people to see of the game runs properly on one small level demo...
It’s a simple “This isn’t what anyone paid for. Not what was promised for the price.”
Refund the playerbase and take a good look at themselves.
Rush, Conquest and BF1's Operations were THE identifying modes for Battlefield. How.....how did this happen and how could they possibly think this was a good idea
Cause money
@@lordjor96 the removal of Rush is a good way to *lose* money.
The people who actually gave a damn about BF are gone, tired of EA greed and incompetence...Basically BF is dead and it's corpse is being used to milk as much money as possible...It's been done with CoD too, a couple of years back, and sadly it probably won't stop anytime soon...
It’s a reality of modern technology that games can be released unfinished and fixed later, but the inevitable result of that is publishers pushing games out faster and faster to hit arbitrary fiscal milestones. It’s lazy, incompetent, and the reason developers are catching heat is because the publisher isn’t taking responsibility for their actions. Harassment is never warranted, but criticism is, and the idea that a company can make any terrible decision for money and expect people to just quietly take it is entitled and delusional. They expect community compliance, they’ll get a rude awakening instead.
As long as publishers' "PR" departments find a way to coin valid criticism as "harassment" and "hatespeech", they will be able to get away with anything.
LOL. This crap has been going on for 20 years.
@@Art-zs6sl which is why stricter laws which protect the rights of the gamer-customer, are needed. imagine if the automobile or the consumer electronics or the major appliance industries were selling entire lines of unfinished/broken products with the promise that they will fix/complete them later. that is not happening, and it shouldn't happen in the gaming industry either.
Exactly. 🏆
@@dwrabauke as long as their are communists this will continue. We really do need a war. We cannot co exist with them.
We live in dark times when a scoreboard for a video game is considered a brutal expectation.
9:44 this reminds me of how people got screwed over by cyberpunk. People got scammed, and it’s only gonna keep happening until people get a clue and stop pre-ordering. Make the studios deliver first before you pay them. It’s like movies: studios are encouraged to keep making good movies because good movies rake in viewers and generate revenue. We’ll get good games again when we pay for good games, not blindly *pre-paying* for crap like Battlefield 2042 and Cyberpunk.
The whole "Legacy Feature" thing is the equivalent to EA saying microtransactions give a sense of pride and accomplishment
"He's got a copy of my T-shirt!" - Paul Merton, Have I Got News For You
Also a reference to Yong's Star Wars-esque tee.
It's as if most of DICE and EA's budget for 2042 was dedicated towards making the trailers for the game and everything else was an afterthought.
I am beginning to think that indie studios are the last hope for the gaming industry because these massive studios and their publishers are no longer producing games made to be played, but games made to sell and satisfy shareholders and investors.
In my opinion, the trailers were shit.
Put on some headphones, go back and watch BF3 trailer.
Now THAT was some quality hype.
There's still good studios like Capcom, but amongst the mainstream for the most part it's getting really not good
I remember BF2042 RTX trailer. Framerate drop when RTX on. I dunno if this fixed or not, but damn.
Indie Gaming should be separated from this tumor known as "Corporate Gaming" and let it die. Hold Global Events exclusively for Indies and make it big, similar to E3. Shift global attention from these big soulless companies and into devs that deserve it more.
Yeah. You guys have some indie games you recommend?
My favorites are hotline Miami 1 and 2 and blasphemous.
Honestly if DICE had just made a normal next gen immersive BF game like BF3 or Bad Company and it still had bugs I bet the fanbase would be more forgiving and give them time to work things out.
They spread themselves to thin with this game. A solid modern shooter with some basic yet immersive maps with a hardcore mode would have done a lot better.
The people that bought and play BF 2042: "
Please don't remove it, this is a good gamemode".
EA/Dice: *Sabotage Intensifies*
Imagine if every industry was like "Dude, you're expecting a complete and functional product from us? Omg that's too brutal! We can't!"
@Dick Izzinya ... Sure. That's the takeaway from the current trend of the triple A industry. The trophy thing. Gotcha.
dell laptop
@Dick Izzinya at least in movies, film and television they have to deliver a finished product that fits in the definition of their respective mediums. Along your comparison, it’d be like a movie coming out that is 20 mins long with corrupted uncompressed shot footage without any editing. Also, you’re completely fucking over your own point with the participation trophy bullshit. My Combat Action Ribbon is a fucking participation trophy from war, it’s a total non-sequiter.
If high expectations connotes a game working on a fundamental level I question your ability as a triple A game developer
I'm more of a Battlefield TDM player 10 minute matches and I've noticed when loading up Bf5 they no longer give a shit about map design, BF 1 is where I'm at but nothing can replace the feeling of playing battlefield 2 all those years ago
The sad part is we as gamers/consumers would never know the names of the business decision makers. The ones who deem it ok to release games in this state. They get to hid behind the blanket term of "management" and not be called out, by name, for their part in the decisions. That is a bit of cowardice to me. If you are supposed to be leaders, then lead from the front. Own your decisions, both good and bad.
Underrated comment honestly. They really are cowards and unfortunately, a lot of fans end up attacking community and social media managers instead, as well as in some extreme cases, sending threats to the game devs themselves. Meanwhile, the actual decision makers are sitting at home counting their millions.
I know they're long and boring but has anyone looked through the bf2042 credits? Would marketing and management be listed there?
You could always look up who the CEOs are though
They don't because they know people would actually kill them.
If a leech is sucking from 1,000,000 of people it isn't hard to say that 1 of these people would squash that leech so the 1,000,000 people wouldn't be hurt.
By scapegoating but not holding full responsibility on the community managers they prevent that backlash and protect themselves. It is a brilliant strategy and if people realize that...
Well more people will want to squash that leech knowing that leech is intentionally hurting you and someone else.
@@Buglin_Burger7878 while it's fucked to think about it, I really wish this could happen worldwide with all the leeches being killed. especially in the US political and Healthcare system that fucks over millions of people
What Andy should have done is make a response like this:
*"I just got back to work and saw all the feedback given to us during holiday break, and we are sorry for how the game released, it was out of our control to release it the way it did, so while we are indeed trying to 100% address all the complaints of the community, we do have to take a break every once in awhile to be ready to get back to work."*
If he had made this type of response instead of pointing the finger at the Battlefield community and their criticisms, it would have gone much better than how it did with his actual response. Ultimately, the main culprit for why the game came out this broken and unfinished is EA, they are the ones that Andy should be calling out, not the Battlefield community (though him calling out EA could get him fired, but still, better point the finger at them than the Battlefield community).
Can he really expect to keep his job though if he actually points the finger in the direction of where the problem lies? That is the thing he couldn't blame the management if he wanted to keep his job, but instead Andy went after the fans which is probably just as bad of a choice.
@@aethertoast4320 I agree, a sad reality I suspect to be true
He can’t criticize his own employer. Corporations like EA operate like North Korea, any semblance of dissent is met with demotions or outright firing. He can’t blame his own team, because he may be a lead supervisor dev and criticizing his team will be adding salt to his own reputation. He can’t criticize his own employees for the same reasons. He feels frustrated at the situation but has no one to blame other than the immediate problem before him - The community.
I don’t think Andy was being malicious. He my just be frustrated. Plus he isn’t a PR representative so talking to customers isn’t a strong suit of his anyway. He’s the cook, not the cashier in the front desk.
@@aethertoast4320 That is true, he can't point the finger at EA (not even indirectly it seems) if he wants to keep his job; but one thing is clear, pointing it at the people that got conned and misled by your publisher (EA) to buy the game is not the way to go, at all.
Unfortunately it is actively better to call people out and blame them as the problem because if you convince enough people that X group is the problem then people will ignore the complaints.
It isn't about being right or wrong, it is about pushing people so they will ignore the problem as the norm in a few years.
Loot Boxes and MTs show that.
*AAA Publishers:*
- ask for $70
- Add Microtransactions
- Removes content (campaign)
- poor post-launch support
- always online
- moronic DRM/AntiCheat
Booming indie scene, players prefer older titles
*AAA Publishers:* Am I out of touch? No of course not, it's the players that are out of touch.
Man I’ve been play BF since BF 1942 and have bought every game up to BFV. 2042 is the first one I haven’t bought. What a joke.
It's always rubbed me the wrong way when game devs remove game modes, it just makes no sense to me "Ah yes removing content that'll get people wanting to play"
Maybe it an desperate attempt to get people to play other game modes? Still very scummy.
Let's get serious. DICE had YEARS to even map out what they might have wanted in a game like BF 2042. Sure, everybody got a hard time with the pandemic, but even as that goes on, there is plenty of room and space to “scope, design and execute”. As Angry Joe has infamously mentioned, “YOU DON FUCKED IT UP!” As a long time fan of this franchise, makes me very angry to see something great basically become a dead rose.
It's EA's whole approach too. Ever since the non-historical nonsense in BF5, it's been evident that EA is desperately (and pathetically) trying to jump on the Fortnite bandwagon with Battlefield.
This is why we have the cringey kiddie end of match voice lines and over the top character aesthetics in 2042, etc.
I've come to accept the fact that Battlefield, honestly, won't have a fully finished product until years after a title's initial release date. Angry Joe's quote is 100% correct in terms of every Battlefield's initial release post-BF3. I still remember seeing, and reading, how BF4 would hard crash so many times a few weeks/months post-launch and they spent so long trying to fix the game. Even now, BF4 still has glaring issues (Like crashes as you leave a match to load into the main screen; hit registering for tank shells on helis/planes; Character models still sliding across the ground in the crouched pose; defib only works at the spot where the player initially died; etc.) but it's playable now.
These devs need grow up and get a set of balls when talking with fans. "Brutal expectations," my ass; EA set these expectations, and you all should have had people that knew what they were doing with this game when you were developing it. Clearly, they wanted to release a game to shut fans up, but all they got were fans throwing their games back in their face. And they're confused, and frustrated, with how their game is getting ravaged.
Now take that anger and use it to not give EA any more money ever no matter who they buy to hold for ransom. Let them fail entirely as a company, the people who actually make good things will keep doing that but they won't be hidden in an ocean of bullshit.
Us paying EA keeps the devs EA tortures for games trapped there. It's time to stop. Find something else to do with the time you currently spend interacting with EA products.
It seems like the bad decisions being made are intentional. I just want to sit in on a meeting at DICE and just observe what's happening. They are intentionally making this game bad for whatever reason.
It seems weird to me aswell. Seems like someone is holding them in a business chokehold? But at the same time, EA is one of the most if not the most budgeted AAA game developers.
EA already announced they are going to do a BF multiverse or whatever BS marketing work they'll use. They don't care about this game.