Are you talking about the workflow for someone who knows nothing about sequencers? The workflow seems pretty rudimentary for me, but I have a back ground in music production. Out of interest what is it that people find tough about the workflow?
Look at the Arrows button : FUNC+DOWN will be Sequencer Layer and FUNC+UP will be Motion Layer, interesting we will have now a sequencer page dedicated to automation not like the other machines where we have the trigs and the motion in the same layer
I think this is Elektron's version of the DSI Tempest. A subtractive synth architecture fed by digital oscillators capable of playing back one-shots, loops, and wavetables.
"We can control that with medication." -DoctorBot, Futurama Yeah it seems to have a sampler or at least sample editing. I wonder if it's got all of the digitone features.
As someone who loves the A4 and Octa but found the 'takts all hugely underwhelming it's the form factor that is exciting here as it means less limitations and more evolved sonics...exciting stuff!
@@Vingul purely a personal ear/taste call...and of the 'takts the Digi has been the most adaptable...but as I'm not of the traditional electronic music crowd I found that after a few months of using each that I could pick them out in mixes and there was a kind of homogenization to their sounds that I didn't get when using the big-box units for work and play. They do seem to have been made by and for a quite specific audience and I'm probably not in that audience. The limitations became starkly apparent once you strayed outside the traditional patterning/programming of modern electronica and beat-making. Superbly designed and built but for those specific usage cases which don't massively match mine, so I found more inspiration and flow elsewhere, leaving me underwhelmed and unimpressed by them...personally. That's all :)
Thanks for making this video! I don't own anything Elektron, and am not too familiar with their range, but they've all seemed to be aimed at a single method so far from what i've seen (drums, or fm, or samples) etc - I agree this looks more universal. Will be interesting to see more when they release it :)
No, my guess it’s more like a combo of swedish word for tone TON and half of the word for percussion in swedish SlagVERK so Tonverk. It makes sense because it’s a combination of drums and keyboard/synth
My guess is a mix between Ton (1000 kg) meaning it’s very heavy. And if you keep on your lap you going to experience VÄRK ( pain) 😊. Anyway. What kind of douche leaked this? Was it stolen? Did someone get an early version and decided as a thank you to leak it?
@@fatradgie That only happens if we're clowns enough to buy into it. It's flopped in the Roland world, no one wants to touch their subscription synths.
@@fatradgie Not a fan of subscriptions, but it’s pretty far fetched to interpret a screen saying “engine inactive” as having anything to do with subscriptions. We’ll see.
5:40 the 4 jacks say "in 2", "in 1", "out D", "out C", its also labeled on the frontplate. curious if there will be any cue functionality utilizing C/D and/or the headphone-out. the cynic inside me expects a best-of-feature-mash of the analog rhytm, syntakt and digitone
If this samples like a Digitakt, FMs like a Digitone, I'm preordering.
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My guess ( dx7 green) is that it will be based on various fm engines, like 2 op drums from model cycles. Also hopes it has some 6op dx7 patch compatible machines. Then I hope the sample engine will handles loops ( like DT grid and stretch machines) in order to create stems directly on the machine and use them on the 4 buses. Hoping for stereo ( analog ?) filters in the buses as well, and better modulation capabilities ( with enveloppe follower like AH +fx ?)
Need an improved digitone fm engine with more tracks, wavetable, granular, and chord engines. I’d guess the sd card and sample editor would be related to user wavetables and maybe short samples for drums
I just don’t get why we’d need an SD card for this when Transfer exists, and the DTII can fit 20gb of storage on a smaller form factor. Unless it’s to keep price point in check by skimping on the memory.
@@robertgarvansnyder4665 i have no idea why they’d choose it but frankly I personally vastly prefer importing things from the card to the hardware with my other gear so it would be an improvement from my perspective
It’s also the A4, Octatrack, Rytm form factor so I think it’s a part of their premium / top tier range. It almost sounds like a cross between a Digitakt & Syntakt. I’m hoping for a true wavetable machine in there this time around.
All I know, I’m not getting digitakt 2 until I know what this is….sticking with my PE tracker for now… if it’s a letdown, I think I’m finally just gonna go with the dirtywave M8. The M8 makers just been a lot more transparent, and honestly listens to community feedback. I think it may be time to finally support his device…
I don’t think this will be a Digitakt or Octatrack type box. I think you’d be safe with the DT2. The M8 looks like a nice piece of kit, but the only type of sequencers I dislike are trackers so it’s not for me.
@@leftmono1016 I get that. I like to compose more than live performances so trackers ticks a lot of boxes. Elektron just seems drip drop features. It’s getting annoying. Akai MPC have proven it can be same in different formats and price points.
@@lebronsinclair8012 - I think they probably will add manual slicing. There have been some huge updates in the past. Tbh, I’ve always used parameter locking of start points for what I do. Always throws up some unexpected results. Also use the old LFO trick for time stretching loops, again some unexpected and very useful results. When you’re parameter locking start points, it’s easy to add other parameters, bit reduction on one step, reverse, change envelope, filter, anything you want. Change sample even. Very creative. I’m a big fan, which is obvious!
The colours (func teal/mint green and purple) look inspired by the DX7 colours. Therefore it is likely mixing FM and samples. Hope some analog is in there too...
The only way this is interesting to me is if it's all-in-one box: Drums, Synths and Samples. And with only 8 audio tracks, it better have 16 voices of polyphony. I don't need another single-purpose elektron device. However, I do want an all in one, pick-up and go box. Oh, and put a battery in it too, there's plenty of room in there.
Would that be to use it as a synth for pad sounds/chords? The DT2 has 16 tracks, there are ways to access 16 notes via midi. Although I’ve not seen it done on the DT2, it definitely works on the original DT using it’s 8 tracks. I thought about getting the cable to do this, but realised I didn’t really need polyphony from the DT. Not for drums, vocals and the stuff I use it for.
@@leftmono1016 👍🏼I have done this with the DT. And yes, I mostly use all my samplers for pad sounds and only sometimes drums. There is a Live plugin that can do this for the DT, but I need a computer for this. Coming from old Akai samplers, it seems like this should not be a problem for a modern sampler?
@@AndrewJohnClive - if you search for RK-002 Smart Midi Cable that allows you to use the DT polyphonically without a computer. I know what you mean about old samplers, I’ve still got a Yamaha A3000 which has a fantastic feature called Loop Remix. Automatically chops up loops and rearranges the chops within certain parameters. Sample the Amen break and you can spend ages creating new loops. But yeah that’s polyphonic too, as you say they all were back in the day. I think lack of polyphony is a function of parameter locking - this would be difficult with polyphonic layers of samples within a single track. Plocks are so useful I couldn’t be without them, and seeing how the DT was originally marketed as a drum sampler, lack of polyphony wasn’t an issue. Maybe an MPC is the best bet for polyphonic pad sounds? Although I’d probably go for an old Yamaha A4000 or A5000 with the bigger screen.
If it will be that I’ll give the raspberry award for another lazy product. Electron need to wake up and move ahead. Combining devices like syntakt only get them to nowhere…
@@officialkanemichael nah mate I owned one, rytm doesn't sound as good as either the Syntakt or the Digitakt. The analog engines in rytm are cheese which is a shame because I really enjoyed the pad pressure as modulation source thing it had going on.
I guess whenever it does Elektron keep everything simple. Even if it’s granular. But I don’t see any traces of granular synth since we have something named drums. Guess it can be something with sample but like Chroma console from Chase Bliss with Elektron sequencer. Actually we had official announcement of digi 2 few days later after its leak. Maybe it’s gonna happen again Thanks for informative video
Interesting moves from Elektron, I’ve been ruling these out so far because of the barrel power, the inability to add content without connecting to a computer and the segmentation they’ve been doing on features/products. I will study the specs when it’s out. As a groovebox type device it will need to have things like sidechain and hope the sd card loading won’t require any helper software, just a browsable file system would be fine for me. I don’t like helper software as they are usually clunky and we then rely on them for the whole unit lifecycle.
How i wish they would just put all the digitone FM, analogue machines with an upgraded sampling options into original Machindrum (including original 12bit machines/sound) in the same silver/red body… i still have it and it’s absolutely beautiful and superior machine… i
Eventhough I have a bunch of Elektron machines (that I plow through without looking back) - there is one absolute gem - Machinedrum. To me it’s a sexiest drum machine ever made and i will be forever saddened that Elektron didn’t turn this into one do it all ultimate workstation (in the same silver-red body)… and instead they are releasing zillion little toys for which there isn’t enough space on a table… ah well… i’m keeping the Machinedrum - all else is a matter of an endless debates.
The color scheme suggests FM, weirdly. In any case, let's hope it is actually polyphonic. Feels like another greatest hits device, like the Syntakt, given that samples feel like they are an option here.
why dont they do an analog rhytm with stereo sampling and more memory, analog filters, real nice sample rate dealing like old machines etc? aka a groovebox with SOUND. thats what doesnt exists in the market today. what everybody miss on the standalone mpcs, maschines and pushs. everybody sleeping on that…
Even without knowing what TONVERK really is, I'd say Elektron & Akai are just too different in their UI. Even if they had the same features, it's really about the workflow preference of the user.
The Digitone keys is literally the best sounding fm synth I’ve ever played can’t wait to see what they drop so excited will never give a dollar to Roland
DIGITONE 2 with special fm machines for drums Fm synth wavetable granular and open midi sequencer with i hope more than 8 voices polyphonie and 8 tracks in total plus 4 midi only with all the fx of the digitone and master fx as well all digital
If it's real, that definitely looks like 8 tracks, 8 voice polyphony only. I suspect like digitakt 2 the tracks will be changeable to be either audio or midi.
Or, it's a brillant marketing strategy. Generate a bunch of hype without giving out too much information. Also, it seems to be a new medium-sized form factor in between the OT and the DT...
Seems doubtful that there will be analog circuitry given the lack of venting at the bottom of the unit, but I am actually more excited to see what different digital machines find their way on there. I am guessing different flavors of VA, FM, Wavetable/sample based synthesis. Perhaps we will get our first Elektron granular synth!
Underneath the first 8 steps it says AUDIO/MIDI…so I assume it's 8 tracks. The only question is, if it's 8 AUDIO + 8 MIDI tracks, or if you have to choose for any of the 8 tracks, it it's either AUDIO, or MIDI.
Everyone talking about merging of existing devices have no idea how business and marketing works - you carve out niches - you don’t nuke your existing lines
And yet elektron does it anyway. Because people will slurp every bit of gear. It's not complicated and it's great for us, the consumers. Now you understand anyway 🙏🏿
It doesn't work like that in the synth world. No amount of marketing bullsh1t will convince buyers to buy something that's crap. And often, more than one device is needed for different purposes. Which totally negates that kind of marketing think.
I think Elektron leaked these vaporware device pics to distract from the real new product or products they are ready to release. This just doesn’t have that Elektron final design aesthetic. Yes I’m aware of how prototypes work, but this one seems just way off.
@@Tripwelleverdayyeah pretty much every printer, shitty corporate windows laptop has one, you can insert a little lock dongle so nobody walks away with one.
All we want is real slice chopping. Lazy chop method or manual slicing like the Octatrack. If this device still doesn’t do this than we going backwards again . If it does than my digitakt 2 is getting sold the week the tonverk comes out.
you can do melodic and percussive work - extensively - on pretty much any of the newer Elektron boxes. aside from the rytm maybe? can't you make percussion using the digitone, a4, syntakt et al and vice versa (tonal focus) ... sure, people are missing sampling + extensive tonal & percussive synthesis. maybe this'll be a new OT lite (Daw'n a box), and there'll be no shortage of whinging about it.
You can do those things… but how convenient & quick is it to make chords on the Digitakt? The point of a groovebox is to get “grooving” as quickly as possible…not to find workarounds. Sure, It can be fun to find workarounds or work with limitations, but it can also be nice to have an all-in-one device that just does things in a non-convoluted way.
Hot take but I think it looks really ugly. The digi series with its austere minimalism was saved by its cuteness. This is neither cute nor interesting from a design perspective. Bland. It looks like a Roland. And the name by IKEA just sucks.
I think it looks cool, sort of like a Digitone had a baby with an Octatrack and a 303 or something. The truly fugly Elektron boxes are the "Model:" series, which also have incredibly stupid names. IDK what they were thinking with that cheap white/off-white plastic chassis... they show dirt and grime really easily. I get that plastic was used for the chassis to cut manufacturing costs, but other manufacturers have pulled it off more tastefully.
@@inkajoo P.S. «the name by IKEA» isn’t exactly crystal clear phrasing. That would mean you think IKEA named it. Very deserving of a «what?» and less kind words.
USB B is a robust connector. USB C less so. It's OK, but for regular use over a long period, I'll go with a soid USB B connector every single time.\C is still better than crappy micro USB that the Roland boutiques and others use though. Don;t even mention crappy 3.5mm MIDI, total joke.
@@SONWUthere’s no way Elektron would put out something with sampling features to compete with the DTII five months after its release. Their model has always been, moderate amount of overlap, but enough difference that the best solution is to buy them all. (Like, no MIDI on A4 for a long time, no MIDI arp on Digitone, etc). They know they still have more DTII units to move. Very curious what this is tho. Some elements (octave LEDs, lack of page indicators) suggest either a prototype, a fake, or a major departure from their design roots.
never get rid of your Digitakt 2 Son Wu, this is highly demanding for sellers remorse - but this leak does lower the chance to get more synthesis options (granular sampler!?) for the Digitakt and may even put far back the polyphonic development for the DT2 as Elektron is known for „keeping back“ overlappings.
I wonder why they would not spend time on an OT mk3. That convo has been going on since forever and it could really use an upgrade. Overbridge, more I/O and flexibility.. I think thát would sell better this mashup idea, this feels like Elektron gear we already own in separate units..
Would be nice if they made a complete device for once instead of devices that are good at one thing but not at another. Consolidate their pioneering into a single box. But it will make obsolete their previous products so this will never happen unfortunately.
@@leftmono1016 Giving the DT2 a dual DCO can go a long way. But then it will eat syntakt market value. Give it manual slicing and live looping, it will eat from OT. I don’t need everything in one box. Now it seems they are purposely not giving us certain features so they don’t eat their own tail.
@@o3rMeNs the Digitakts have always had single cycle waveforms, DCOs in effect. Considering the DT was supposed to be ‘just’ a sampling drum machine it’s come a very long way. Manual slicing will definitely come, but I’d be surprised if they could coax live looping out of it in any kind of workable way. It’s not that easy to get your head around on the OT. Personally, I like the RYTM for drums, the DTakt for sampling, the A4 for analog and the DTone for FM. Considered getting a Syntakt and ditching the RYTM and A4, but not at that stage yet.
@@leftmono1016 Yes, the SCWF stuff I use quite often. But it’s the ‘dual’ part that gets me excited. I own DT2, AR and A4. On the AR the dual VCO is great. With the DT2 i can see them utilizing the stereo voice as dual DCO. So one SCWF on each L/R channel, tweak both individually, and then sum to mono. But I’m worried they skipped on being able to sum L/R to mono on a hardware level. Also considering selling my AR as DT2 does drums well enough and I get bored with analog drums quickly. The A4 however is a beast of a unit and although I use my dreadbox synths more often these days I can’t get it over my heart to sell it.
Is obviously a Digitoneish device thats why it has a green/teal button. I wish they would stop making grooveboxs we dont need 5 boxs that do the same thing.
They don’t really make grooveboxes though. Sure you can make drums on the A4, and mono synths on the RYTM, but thats not what you buy them for. Syntakt excepted!
We need a new monomachine! Same device but even deeper. Its all I want in this world.
You spelled machinedrum UW mk3 wrong there
It’ll be like a crockpot if they make the perfect machine. So good no need to buy anything else, company dissolves.
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Well, being an Elektron, I can already tell it will be a ton of verk to learn how to use it
Funny how we’re all different, I find the Elektron’ workflow’ really intuitive. Unfortunately for my bank account.
Nahh only OT is hard
Being a Proton, this Elektron is very attractive. 😅
Not afraid of workflow, beta tester when you want!
That's messed up
Are you talking about the workflow for someone who knows nothing about sequencers? The workflow seems pretty rudimentary for me, but I have a back ground in music production.
Out of interest what is it that people find tough about the workflow?
Look at the Arrows button : FUNC+DOWN will be Sequencer Layer and FUNC+UP will be Motion Layer, interesting we will have now a sequencer page dedicated to automation not like the other machines where we have the trigs and the motion in the same layer
right, huge departure of the single sequencer lane we are so used to.
Hoping for proper granular and wavetable synthesis
I think this is Elektron's version of the DSI Tempest. A subtractive synth architecture fed by digital oscillators capable of playing back one-shots, loops, and wavetables.
I'm EXTREMELY excited about this
Same here :)
"We can control that with medication." -DoctorBot, Futurama
Yeah it seems to have a sampler or at least sample editing.
I wonder if it's got all of the digitone features.
As someone who loves the A4 and Octa but found the 'takts all hugely underwhelming it's the form factor that is exciting here as it means less limitations and more evolved sonics...exciting stuff!
@@Farold_Haltermeyer agreed
What hugely underwhelmed you about the Digitakt?
@@Vingul purely a personal ear/taste call...and of the 'takts the Digi has been the most adaptable...but as I'm not of the traditional electronic music crowd I found that after a few months of using each that I could pick them out in mixes and there was a kind of homogenization to their sounds that I didn't get when using the big-box units for work and play. They do seem to have been made by and for a quite specific audience and I'm probably not in that audience. The limitations became starkly apparent once you strayed outside the traditional patterning/programming of modern electronica and beat-making. Superbly designed and built but for those specific usage cases which don't massively match mine, so I found more inspiration and flow elsewhere, leaving me underwhelmed and unimpressed by them...personally. That's all :)
@@Farold_Haltermeyer Digitone with Keys.... That was the most amazing machine I have ever owned. (except a ton of others.. which were also good ha)
Thanks for making this video! I don't own anything Elektron, and am not too familiar with their range, but they've all seemed to be aimed at a single method so far from what i've seen (drums, or fm, or samples) etc - I agree this looks more universal. Will be interesting to see more when they release it :)
My pleasure! Yeah, I hope they will make the one-to-rule-them-all device :)
Wavetable groovebox. Verk is a Swedish word for furniture. Furniture = Table. That’s what I’m getting from a 2 min google investigation.
No, my guess it’s more like a combo of swedish word for tone TON and half of the word for percussion in swedish SlagVERK so Tonverk. It makes sense because it’s a combination of drums and keyboard/synth
@@kejo703 Ahhhhh, good call. Like i said, My Google investigation was about 2 mins.
:D sounds almost TOO clever
My guess is a mix between Ton (1000 kg) meaning it’s very heavy. And if you keep on your lap you going to experience VÄRK ( pain) 😊.
Anyway. What kind of douche leaked this? Was it stolen? Did someone get an early version and decided as a thank you to leak it?
"engine inactive" probably just means the final OS is not in it yet and the leaked picture is from a pre-release version of the OS.
Yes, exactly. It’s annoying that everyone seems intent on manifesting a subscription model into existence.
@@fatradgie the day they start making subscription based hardware will be the day my gas truly dies.
@@liquidsakura- completely agree.
@@fatradgie That only happens if we're clowns enough to buy into it. It's flopped in the Roland world, no one wants to touch their subscription synths.
@@fatradgie Not a fan of subscriptions, but it’s pretty far fetched to interpret a screen saying “engine inactive” as having anything to do with subscriptions. We’ll see.
Is that a digitakt and digit one put together with better sampling
I see concept of Motion Layers and Sequencing Layers. Presumably, this means stacking patterns on top of one another for each track. Thoughts?
I think it could also just mean that trigs are separated from trigless trigs in a second sequencer layer…but honestly I have no clue
I will buy it if Arnold says it's name ToneVerrrrrk
5:40 the 4 jacks say "in 2", "in 1", "out D", "out C", its also labeled on the frontplate.
curious if there will be any cue functionality utilizing C/D and/or the headphone-out.
the cynic inside me expects a best-of-feature-mash of the analog rhytm, syntakt and digitone
If this samples like a Digitakt, FMs like a Digitone, I'm preordering.
My guess ( dx7 green) is that it will be based on various fm engines, like 2 op drums from model cycles. Also hopes it has some 6op dx7 patch compatible machines.
Then I hope the sample engine will handles loops ( like DT grid and stretch machines) in order to create stems directly on the machine and use them on the 4 buses. Hoping for stereo ( analog ?) filters in the buses as well, and better modulation capabilities ( with enveloppe follower like AH +fx ?)
Prayers up for those poor engineers. I imagine that full-size SD card slot was a painful, difficult feature for Elektron to implement.
Need an improved digitone fm engine with more tracks, wavetable, granular, and chord engines. I’d guess the sd card and sample editor would be related to user wavetables and maybe short samples for drums
I just don’t get why we’d need an SD card for this when Transfer exists, and the DTII can fit 20gb of storage on a smaller form factor. Unless it’s to keep price point in check by skimping on the memory.
@@robertgarvansnyder4665 i have no idea why they’d choose it but frankly I personally vastly prefer importing things from the card to the hardware with my other gear so it would be an improvement from my perspective
It’s also the A4, Octatrack, Rytm form factor so I think it’s a part of their premium / top tier range. It almost sounds like a cross between a Digitakt & Syntakt. I’m hoping for a true wavetable machine in there this time around.
no it‘s smaller then the standard (OT) old cases
@@el_dani what makes you think I’m referring to the old cases. This looks like it’s the same size as the current models.
@@e-conrecords4665 no it looks like a form factor Elektron never did before, between the old (Octatrack) and the newer Digi-line.
All I know, I’m not getting digitakt 2 until I know what this is….sticking with my PE tracker for now… if it’s a letdown, I think I’m finally just gonna go with the dirtywave M8. The M8 makers just been a lot more transparent, and honestly listens to community feedback. I think it may be time to finally support his device…
I don’t think this will be a Digitakt or Octatrack type box.
I think you’d be safe with the DT2.
The M8 looks like a nice piece of kit, but the only type of sequencers I dislike are trackers so it’s not for me.
@@leftmono1016 I get that. I like to compose more than live performances so trackers ticks a lot of boxes. Elektron just seems drip drop features. It’s getting annoying. Akai MPC have proven it can be same in different formats and price points.
@@leftmono1016 Do you think will get manual slicing on DT2?
@@lebronsinclair8012 - I think they probably will add manual slicing. There have been some huge updates in the past.
Tbh, I’ve always used parameter locking of start points for what I do. Always throws up some unexpected results. Also use the old LFO trick for time stretching loops, again some unexpected and very useful results.
When you’re parameter locking start points, it’s easy to add other parameters, bit reduction on one step, reverse, change envelope, filter, anything you want. Change sample even. Very creative. I’m a big fan, which is obvious!
this very well might be the last we ever hear of this thing. no guarantee it will ever be finished or released. so i wouldn't hold my breath.
The colours (func teal/mint green and purple) look inspired by the DX7 colours. Therefore it is likely mixing FM and samples. Hope some analog is in there too...
A lot of sequencer interface buttons quite moderate on the synthesis side.
The only way this is interesting to me is if it's all-in-one box: Drums, Synths and Samples. And with only 8 audio tracks, it better have 16 voices of polyphony. I don't need another single-purpose elektron device. However, I do want an all in one, pick-up and go box. Oh, and put a battery in it too, there's plenty of room in there.
It's hilarious that we can have such detailed photos of a synth/groovebox but generally have no idea what it actually does
Yes indeed…but it seems that these days leaks are quickly followed by official info…let's hope it's the same here :D
If it's a looper/sampler with analog / digital engine INSTANT BUY
@@MrThecarrottmost probably it is all of those and most probably you already have all of those
@@MrThecarrottInteresting to me are the motion layer and mod matrix button. Plus it seems to have the source/machine button of DT2.
If it’s a DT and Syntak combined great. Wish it has adat I/O. But it we have x4 outs, I’m sold
Eh? You can sequence fx on DT. For even More control Per step midi loopback
Has similar controls to the yamaha rm1x groovebox.
I just want an Elektron sampler that is polyphonic!😪
Would that be to use it as a synth for pad sounds/chords?
The DT2 has 16 tracks, there are ways to access 16 notes via midi. Although I’ve not seen it done on the DT2, it definitely works on the original DT using it’s 8 tracks.
I thought about getting the cable to do this, but realised I didn’t really need polyphony from the DT. Not for drums, vocals and the stuff I use it for.
@@leftmono1016 👍🏼I have done this with the DT. And yes, I mostly use all my samplers for pad sounds and only sometimes drums. There is a Live plugin that can do this for the DT, but I need a computer for this. Coming from old Akai samplers, it seems like this should not be a problem for a modern sampler?
@@AndrewJohnClive - if you search for RK-002 Smart Midi Cable that allows you to use the DT polyphonically without a computer.
I know what you mean about old samplers, I’ve still got a Yamaha A3000 which has a fantastic feature called Loop Remix. Automatically chops up loops and rearranges the chops within certain parameters. Sample the Amen break and you can spend ages creating new loops. But yeah that’s polyphonic too, as you say they all were back in the day.
I think lack of polyphony is a function of parameter locking - this would be difficult with polyphonic layers of samples within a single track.
Plocks are so useful I couldn’t be without them, and seeing how the DT was originally marketed as a drum sampler, lack of polyphony wasn’t an issue.
Maybe an MPC is the best bet for polyphonic pad sounds? Although I’d probably go for an old Yamaha A4000 or A5000 with the bigger screen.
@@leftmono1016 Thanks! I know this thing too. :) I still wish they'd at least make one or wo tracks capable of polyphony .
You're about to get it
Probably wavetable and as for sampling I hope it includes granular too.
if this the digitakt x syntakt combo i’ve been wanting then im FLIPPING TABLES
@evianxlucy Isn’t that just the analog rytm though?
If it will be that I’ll give the raspberry award for another lazy product. Electron need to wake up and move ahead. Combining devices like syntakt only get them to nowhere…
More like digitakt x syntakt x digitone
@@o3rMeNs you know what ? u are not wrong at all
Syntakt + Digitakt in one box would be cool.
That's called the Rytm
@@officialkanemichael nah mate I owned one, rytm doesn't sound as good as either the Syntakt or the Digitakt. The analog engines in rytm are cheese which is a shame because I really enjoyed the pad pressure as modulation source thing it had going on.
I guess whenever it does Elektron keep everything simple. Even if it’s granular. But I don’t see any traces of granular synth since we have something named drums. Guess it can be something with sample but like Chroma console from Chase Bliss with Elektron sequencer. Actually we had official announcement of digi 2 few days later after its leak. Maybe it’s gonna happen again
Thanks for informative video
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@@OrangeDrinkMusic fine Drew
I guess we starting our own podcast right here right now
Interesting moves from Elektron, I’ve been ruling these out so far because of the barrel power, the inability to add content without connecting to a computer and the segmentation they’ve been doing on features/products.
I will study the specs when it’s out. As a groovebox type device it will need to have things like sidechain and hope the sd card loading won’t require any helper software, just a browsable file system would be fine for me. I don’t like helper software as they are usually clunky and we then rely on them for the whole unit lifecycle.
I think it’s gonna be granular and focus on evolving sequences based on the fact that it doesn’t have sequencer pages,
A big version of Syntakt?
would be cool to connect other elektron boxes to thpse usb ports with overbridge
16 is MAIN indeed.
(Visible on other pictures)
Yeah, so far it looks pretty promising…refreshing that speculation-thread way too often :)
Finally a exciting elecktron box
Power over usb exclusively?! Woah there elektron
a bit weird that there are nog light for the page you are in? could this be fake?
Do you know what a prototype is??!
yes
Could be
@@eternalsence3033 do you know what a fake is??? 🤦🏿♂️
Exactly
I was hoping for a machinedrum mk3
How i wish they would just put all the digitone FM, analogue machines with an upgraded sampling options into original Machindrum (including original 12bit machines/sound) in the same silver/red body… i still have it and it’s absolutely beautiful and superior machine… i
Nice exited about it
Would love to see you back on Elektron gear!
FM synth sampling groove box🙌🏻
"keyboard" on the left side when the rest of products have it on the right... ? let me doubt about this suposed "leaked" photos....
I still say this is real…people usually doubt these leaks. And most of the time they turn out to be real
Eventhough I have a bunch of Elektron machines (that I plow through without looking back) - there is one absolute gem - Machinedrum. To me it’s a sexiest drum machine ever made and i will be forever saddened that Elektron didn’t turn this into one do it all ultimate workstation (in the same silver-red body)… and instead they are releasing zillion little toys for which there isn’t enough space on a table… ah well… i’m keeping the Machinedrum - all else is a matter of an endless debates.
Gonna be watching out for it ;)
Same!
Syntakt + Analog Four combination
Maybe something between digiton and analog four
this may or *may not* ever be released
The color scheme suggests FM, weirdly. In any case, let's hope it is actually polyphonic. Feels like another greatest hits device, like the Syntakt, given that samples feel like they are an option here.
Dx7
an Electronic sampler without the x-fader for scene blending?
why dont they do an analog rhytm with stereo sampling and more memory, analog filters, real nice sample rate dealing like old machines etc? aka a groovebox with SOUND. thats what doesnt exists in the market today. what everybody miss on the standalone mpcs, maschines and pushs. everybody sleeping on that…
Analog 8 + sample layer?
Is it FM ?
Narrated by Jeremy Fragrance?
yes
No fader made me sad though
mpc killer?
Even without knowing what TONVERK really is, I'd say Elektron & Akai are just too different in their UI. Even if they had the same features, it's really about the workflow preference of the user.
Mpc Killer? 😂
That’s the Octatrack in my opinion
@@StatetrooperBillyBillit’s all about character and what it can do. MPC is always vanilla.
If this is legit I’m definitely gonna snag one.
Same
Finally! They’ll sell like hot cakes if the price is right
seems like a4 type stuff. also, weren’t mk2s of a4 and ot released same year?
Analog 4 had much more interface input options: 8 parameter buttons and 10 encoders
@@el_dani true dat. a lot of people saying maybe digitone something or another
@@randomVEL maybe with different digital machines (with paying expansions)
The Digitone keys is literally the best sounding fm synth I’ve ever played can’t wait to see what they drop so excited will never give a dollar to Roland
Roland need to use modern screen …. I hate using mc-101 because of the screen + hard menu combo that is too hard to remember
@@firecraftQ8already the Elektron screens are quite small, we don‘t mention the R brand here again..
@@firecraftQ8 That's one of the reasons I sold mine. Too much menu diving on such small screens.
So glad I’m not the only one
What's that thing above the sd card slot?
Kensington Lock
Elektron invented Korg Electribe EMX SD :)
my eyes say the jack ports on the back are in B, in A , out ?, out ? , B / right, A / left
On top of the unit they are labeled as A-MAIN-B … C-OUT-D … 1-IN-2
MPC gang 💪💯
just want to say hi to everyone before this video gets taken down, SONWU now 3 for 3 on leaks???
😂 Thanks for the support…I'm pretty convinced on this one!
@@SONWU WU knows what it is!
Who should have the power to take down this video? Only thing would be the lawyers for Son Wus NDA contract..
@@el_dani it was spoken in jest
@@OrangeDrinkMusic learned a new word, thanks 🙏🏻
DIGITONE 2 with special fm machines for drums Fm synth wavetable granular and open midi sequencer with i hope more than 8 voices polyphonie and 8 tracks in total plus 4 midi only with all the fx of the digitone and master fx as well all digital
If it's real, that definitely looks like 8 tracks, 8 voice polyphony only. I suspect like digitakt 2 the tracks will be changeable to be either audio or midi.
I hope there is a battery inside
pure bliss to be a 'synthfluencer' and see a leak pop up. That's some easy content for sure
I'd speculate with all you guys anyway…might as well do it in a video! ;)
@@SONWU bet. Now let's hope we get a release soon..
Someone at the manufacturing vendor is getting fired tomorrow
Yes indeed…even got his own shoes in the picture.
let's hope he doesn't care🤷♂️
Or, it's a brillant marketing strategy. Generate a bunch of hype without giving out too much information. Also, it seems to be a new medium-sized form factor in between the OT and the DT...
@@jean-pierremartineau4136 possible for sure
Leaks are a powerful and cheap marketing strategy... Elektron seems very into that tho
Seems doubtful that there will be analog circuitry given the lack of venting at the bottom of the unit, but I am actually more excited to see what different digital machines find their way on there.
I am guessing different flavors of VA, FM, Wavetable/sample based synthesis.
Perhaps we will get our first Elektron granular synth!
I doubt it's got anything analog too. Which I don't mind.
Multiple synth engines, as well as sampling (and slicing) would be great!
@@SONWU elektron is so stingy with sample slicing! We can dream…
@@ryanabrams77 sadly, yes
It’s a granular groove box
Digital's just as good as analogue. It's only dinosaur armchair snobs who think it's still 1986.
How many tracks? Doesn’t seem to show. Or does it?
Underneath the first 8 steps it says AUDIO/MIDI…so I assume it's 8 tracks. The only question is, if it's 8 AUDIO + 8 MIDI tracks, or if you have to choose for any of the 8 tracks, it it's either AUDIO, or MIDI.
That’s the same as the Digitone
@@TripwelleverdayDigitone has 4/4.
@@Tripwelleverdaydigitone has 4/4 tracks, but 8 total voices of polyphony.
@@SONWU plus those drum tracks on the top?
I say it’s Elektrons MPC
Everyone talking about merging of existing devices have no idea how business and marketing works - you carve out niches - you don’t nuke your existing lines
And yet elektron does it anyway. Because people will slurp every bit of gear. It's not complicated and it's great for us, the consumers. Now you understand anyway 🙏🏿
It doesn't work like that in the synth world. No amount of marketing bullsh1t will convince buyers to buy something that's crap. And often, more than one device is needed for different purposes. Which totally negates that kind of marketing think.
Yeah, problem comes when more and more competitors say screw that approach making you look feeble, wanton and archaic.
we need something better than the Mpc
Like a 21st Century MC-202 😉
Definitely a sequencer pure and simple
Good shout
So like EVERY Elektron. Way to go shaggy!
With drums, sounds, machines and sampling? (all on the faceplate)
We have a genius here lads!
Can the name inform us ?
Tonverk-> Konvert-> Convert maybe ? 🤔
Not sure if you're just joking, but you can just translate the Swedish to English.
@@user82938Google just translated this as “tons of work”. But presumably it’s “tone=synth”, and “werk = workstation”.
verk would rather be factory in my humble language guessing
Verk would rather be workshop or factory in my humble language guessing
@@user82938somehow I don't think they're joking, hope they're young at least lol 🤦🏿♂️
I think Elektron leaked these vaporware device pics to distract from the real new product or products they are ready to release. This just doesn’t have that Elektron final design aesthetic. Yes I’m aware of how prototypes work, but this one seems just way off.
Agree, it’s not a very pretty thing.
True
What’s the slot on top of the sd card that’s not a usb is it
I assume it's a Kensington lock
What’s that???
@@Tripwelleverday It's like how they have iPhones locked down in the store. Gives you an anchor point for a cable lock.
@@Tripwelleverdayyeah pretty much every printer, shitty corporate windows laptop has one, you can insert a little lock dongle so nobody walks away with one.
Woo. Another hole in pocket.
keeping the sticky keys? 🙂
Sticky fingers make sticky keys.
All we want is real slice chopping. Lazy chop method or manual slicing like the Octatrack. If this device still doesn’t do this than we going backwards again
. If it does than my digitakt 2 is getting sold the week the tonverk comes out.
Nah bro MPC is king 👑
Two different Transpose buttons ?!..it smells fake...
Then again if you made a fake, you definitely wouldn't put two transpose buttons. So....
If is getting power just through Usb C then I think its not enough power for analog engines, this is a pure digital generator machine
PD power?
we will see. USB-C can provide 100 Watts of power, which would be more than enough for analog.
you can do melodic and percussive work - extensively - on pretty much any of the newer Elektron boxes. aside from the rytm maybe? can't you make percussion using the digitone, a4, syntakt et al and vice versa (tonal focus) ... sure, people are missing sampling + extensive tonal & percussive synthesis. maybe this'll be a new OT lite (Daw'n a box), and there'll be no shortage of whinging about it.
You can do those things… but how convenient & quick is it to make chords on the Digitakt?
The point of a groovebox is to get “grooving” as quickly as possible…not to find workarounds. Sure, It can be fun to find workarounds or work with limitations, but it can also be nice to have an all-in-one device that just does things in a non-convoluted way.
no one has ever convinced me that elektron gear is a good idea... i see a lot of people praise it, i still do not get it.
I can completely understand if the workflow isn't for you.
Why would anyone bother convincing you if you don’t like it?
Hot take but I think it looks really ugly. The digi series with its austere minimalism was saved by its cuteness. This is neither cute nor interesting from a design perspective. Bland. It looks like a Roland. And the name by IKEA just sucks.
I think it looks cool, sort of like a Digitone had a baby with an Octatrack and a 303 or something. The truly fugly Elektron boxes are the "Model:" series, which also have incredibly stupid names. IDK what they were thinking with that cheap white/off-white plastic chassis... they show dirt and grime really easily. I get that plastic was used for the chassis to cut manufacturing costs, but other manufacturers have pulled it off more tastefully.
The name by IKEA? What? Several Elektron machines have Swedish names already.
@@Vingul It's not that it's Swedish, ya meatball. It's that it sounds like a Swedish kids piano lesson book if IKEA sold one.
@@inkajoo köttbulle*
@@inkajoo P.S. «the name by IKEA» isn’t exactly crystal clear phrasing. That would mean you think IKEA named it. Very deserving of a «what?» and less kind words.
Insta need for me
more annoyed now that they still went with usb-b on the dt2 when usb c was coming right around the corner in the tonverk
USB B is a robust connector. USB C less so. It's OK, but for regular use over a long period, I'll go with a soid USB B connector every single time.\C is still better than crappy micro USB that the Roland boutiques and others use though. Don;t even mention crappy 3.5mm MIDI, total joke.
Just give us something Granular please!
Yes, please!
Looks like they are planning on combining the DigiTone and Takt, into one device.
They wouldn’t release anything close to Digitakt that short after DT2 release.
Wouldn't be anything like the Takt since v2 just got released. I'm guessing it's like an XL Digitone, getting a bit of Roland SH4D vibes too?
Yep looks like. Not sure why people have selective memory on this, they do this all the time no matter how soon something else was released.
@@UreksatheJade according to chat gpt
Here is a timeline of Elektron device releases:
1. **SidStation** - 1999
2. **Machinedrum SPS-1** - 2001
3. **Monomachine SFX-6** - 2003
4. **Machinedrum UW (User Wave)** - 2005
5. **Monomachine SFX-60** - 2005
6. **Octatrack DPS-1** - 2010
7. **Analog Four** - 2012
8. **Analog Keys** - 2013
9. **Analog Rytm** - 2014
10. **Digitakt** - May 2017
11. **Analog Heat** - 2016
12. **Digitone** - January 2018
13. **Digitone Keys** - May 2019
14. **Model:Samples** - February 2019
15. **Model:Cycles** - February 2020
16. **Analog Rytm MKII** - 2017 (updated in 2018)
17. **Analog Four MKII** - 2017 (updated in 2018)
18. **Syntakt** - May 2022
19. **Analog Heat+FX** - March 2023
It’s stolen out a car
Stolen out of a stolen eBike from Sweden 😮
Man has the right shoes to be doing a little light work like that to be sure 😂
It's kind of ugly
Tbh I love the aqua/purple combo
Yes it is
It’s fugly.
Definitely interested. Will hold off buying a Digitakt 2 until we know more.
I'd do the same…if there is enough sampling in Tonverk, I'll sell my DTII as well.
@@SONWUthere’s no way Elektron would put out something with sampling features to compete with the DTII five months after its release. Their model has always been, moderate amount of overlap, but enough difference that the best solution is to buy them all. (Like, no MIDI on A4 for a long time, no MIDI arp on Digitone, etc). They know they still have more DTII units to move. Very curious what this is tho. Some elements (octave LEDs, lack of page indicators) suggest either a prototype, a fake, or a major departure from their design roots.
Probably going to be quite a bit more expansive than the DigiTakt 2, but let’s wait and see.
never get rid of your Digitakt 2 Son Wu, this is highly demanding for sellers remorse - but this leak does lower the chance to get more synthesis options (granular sampler!?) for the Digitakt and may even put far back the polyphonic development for the DT2 as Elektron is known for „keeping back“ overlappings.
@@robertgarvansnyder4665hasn't stopped them pulling a similar stunt before, everyone buys it up anyway soooo
I wonder why they would not spend time on an OT mk3. That convo has been going on since forever and it could really use an upgrade. Overbridge, more I/O and flexibility.. I think thát would sell better this mashup idea, this feels like Elektron gear we already own in separate units..
Do you know that they’re not spending time on an OT3?
I’m guessing they are, it’d sell a lot of units with better effects, more I/0 etc. like you say.
the dudes who thought up and birthed octatrack aren't there anymore, and the code is spaghetti
Digitakt/Digitone Hybrid, i bet.
Would be nice if they made a complete device for once instead of devices that are good at one thing but not at another. Consolidate their pioneering into a single box. But it will make obsolete their previous products so this will never happen unfortunately.
All in one boxes are never that good. Always going to be a compromise.
@@leftmono1016 Giving the DT2 a dual DCO can go a long way. But then it will eat syntakt market value. Give it manual slicing and live looping, it will eat from OT. I don’t need everything in one box. Now it seems they are purposely not giving us certain features so they don’t eat their own tail.
@@o3rMeNs the Digitakts have always had single cycle waveforms, DCOs in effect.
Considering the DT was supposed to be ‘just’ a sampling drum machine it’s come a very long way.
Manual slicing will definitely come, but I’d be surprised if they could coax live looping out of it in any kind of workable way. It’s not that easy to get your head around on the OT.
Personally, I like the RYTM for drums, the DTakt for sampling, the A4 for analog and the DTone for FM.
Considered getting a Syntakt and ditching the RYTM and A4, but not at that stage yet.
@@leftmono1016 Yes, the SCWF stuff I use quite often. But it’s the ‘dual’ part that gets me excited. I own DT2, AR and A4. On the AR the dual VCO is great. With the DT2 i can see them utilizing the stereo voice as dual DCO. So one SCWF on each L/R channel, tweak both individually, and then sum to mono. But I’m worried they skipped on being able to sum L/R to mono on a hardware level. Also considering selling my AR as DT2 does drums well enough and I get bored with analog drums quickly. The A4 however is a beast of a unit and although I use my dreadbox synths more often these days I can’t get it over my heart to sell it.
Is obviously a Digitoneish device thats why it has a green/teal button.
I wish they would stop making grooveboxs we dont need 5 boxs that do the same thing.
Doesn't matter y'all buy them anyway
They don’t really make grooveboxes though. Sure you can make drums on the A4, and mono synths on the RYTM, but thats not what you buy them for.
Syntakt excepted!
Who cares, its going to be priced so that no one can afford it anyways
Whole lotta no one’s buying the current boxes