He's using a specific technique only available to people who are hand and eye dominant on either side. He's right handed, left eyed. He's got his right arm dead straight, right cheek on his right bicep, left eye behind the sights. This gives him an extra point of stabilizing contact. I'm wired the same way. Hurts us doing long gun work but in handguns, we can lean into it. For close range we tighten both arms, elbows bent and dropped, bring the sights closer in.
That's sort of how my life operates: I eat, then shoot, answer messages / email, then shoot, bushhog the Compound, then shoot, eat lunch, then shoot, go to a movie, then shoot, sleep, then shoot, read a book, then shoot, watch a movie, then shoot, etc, etc, :-)
Just bought a 29. Came here knowing I will find out more about it than anywhere else. Thank You ! I mostly got black bears in my back yard but they do come to the front door once in awhile. And as I don't collect this gun should do well as CCW. The guy at the store I bought it from was as happy as I was about this weapon and highly recommended it. He was ex sheriff so I trusted his expertise.
How’s your Glock 29 treating you now? I live in Juneau Alaska I hike and pick berries a lot with my kids,Im about to buy the G29 gen 4 this coming week.we only have black bears and brown bears here,no grizzlies.
@@jefferylawrence9812 I don't think you will regret it. I changed the trigger to something from Johnny Glocks. It is a stock trigger smoothed out with less take up so the travel is shorter but not unsafe. I also put some bigger buttons on it like slide and mag release. Old guy hands lol
@@jerrypeevey thanks so much for your reply!! Been watching review videos.i just sold my Glock 27 .40 I want to upgrade,there’s just absolutely no outdoors type ammo here for the .40 but tons of 10mm ammo!!
Thank you Hickok45After watching your videos on the 10mm I will be picking up my new 20sf 5/16/16. I'm a big .45 fan and seeing you have so much fun with the G20 made me want to get one. After years of .45 in many different styles the 10mm seams like the logical next step. Thanks
Your accuracy and competence shows you have to be shooting that much! Another brilliant video - thanks, Hickok45 - you keep British shooters sane with the views of your shooting and having fun.
Just bought my first 10mm in a Glock 29, I've gained a nice firearm collection the last few years and I always look to your indirect advice for my next purchase. Thanks for doing what you do . Compound looks awesome! Keep doin what your doin and we will follow!
I have hunted Bear, and used a 30 30 because it has been proven and worked to take black bear. A CMMG MK10 is what I am testing with various loads, to take bear. I didn’t originally buy this pistol for bear, but instead for Whitetail. After watching your videos of 10 mm which it seems you enjoy quite a bit, you have given me some new ideas for loads to try with. Thx again
I was doing the same thing when I began shooting again after about 15 years of not shooting much. Typically what causes that is Recoil Anticipation. This means that you are pushing forward slightly in attempt to "combat" the recoil. Just relax and let the recoil happen and your shots will hit center. It takes discipline and practice to get rid of the habit, but you can do it! Hope this helps.
Hickok will genuinely live on forever with this top shelf channel. Almost excited to see a 95 yr old Hickok out there slammin the gong with a yet to be invented 10mm all 15 rounds. Lol you're already a living legend may aswell stack everything you possibly can. Only thing left really is to be reviewing firearms from your electric scooter at 100yrs old
My EDC is a Glock 29 (smaller) 10mm. It is a tack driver and has been very reliable. I carry it with Winchester 175 grain Silver tips. Recoil is really not bad and probably less than my G-23 and G-27 in that department, in part due to the massive slide on these things. I feel more confident with it than a .45 because this will punch through car doors and like barricades if needed and a .45 may not.
Ahhhhh the lovely sound of our 2nd amendment. Thanks a bunch for taking the time to produce great videos. I wish you would produce a gun safety video for all school kids to watch and learn. I firmly believe it would cut down on accidental gun accidents.
Either a Hidden Hybrid Holster or the new StealthGear holster I recently received. I'll have to look at the video and see if I can tell. Both are great holsters.
Love 10mm ,The buffalo bore bullets are a bit set forward and have a chance of them not allowing the slide to fully close. A much better hard cast bullet is for sure the Double tap they care about the product that is made, just as powerful but a better company. Love your videos, your real and thats what the viewers need, thanks keep up the good work!!!
as a subscriber that shoots at range quite a bit, your accuracy is underrated. You're a damn good shot with everything you shoot. Props Hickok45 keep it up and long live the Volunteer State! Hendersonville,TN sub here!
Great video! I just picked up 50 Underwood 220gr hard cast rounds for about $50, which included shipping. Still a little steep, but seems cheap compared to the BB. There's a good spreadsheet I found for comparing the energy from these two rounds too. I believe the Underwood round was about 100fps faster than the BB too, which considering it's a cheaper round makes it all the sweeter. Here's the data: UNDERWOOD 220GR HC - 1,211fps - 717 ft-lbf BUFFALO BORE 220GR HCFN 21C - 1,109fps - 601 ft-lbf
Your exactly right Hickock, it makes 3x as many holes as a 5 shot revolver so even a 500 or 454 the glock 20 is ALMOST matching it for firepower! And a faster reload! I like the 200 grain HCFN buffalo bore best but 220 is great also!
from Buffalo Bore Hard Cast Bullets in Polygonal Barrels HARD CAST BULLETS IN POLYGONAL BARRELS True hard cast bullets (as opposed to lead swaged bullets) that are properly lubed will not lead foul polygonal barrels any more than any other type of rifled barrel. Ever since Glock Corporation warned to not use lead bullets in their pistols with polygonal barrels, a myth that hard cast bullets will lead foul polygonal barrels has become wide spread in some parts of the firearms world. However, the myth is untrue. Hard cast bullets are not "lead" bullets. (See my article on "Dangerous Pure Lead Cowboy Bullets") Pure lead or nearly pure lead bullets have a tendency to foul any barrel, not just polygonal barrels. Years ago, when several Glock pistols experienced cracked barrels because of fouling build up from shooting pure lead bullets, Glock issued a warning not to shoot lead bullets in their polygonal barrels. From that warning, the myth that you should not shoot hard cast bullets in polygonal barrels was born. Provided you use real hard cast bullets with good lube, you can shoot them all you like in polygonal barrels without causing lead fouling deposits at the front of your chamber or anywhere else in the barrel. If you are concerned about lead fouling from hard cast bullets, all you have to do is to clean your barrel after firing hard cast bullets and before firing any jacketed bullets. However, in my experience, quality hard cast bullets won't foul a Glock polygonal barrel or any other type of barrel but lead bullets normally will.
I shot many hard cast bullets from a 1st gen 9mm Glock back in the day, with no leading and with plain based bullets. Just use quality bullets and data specific to cast bullets from a reliable source, and use your head and when developing a new load check the barrel periodically. I do use gas checks for 44 magnum at higher power levels. Whether a gas check is needed for 10mm would depend on choice of bullet, powder, and charge level.
Pure lead bullets you are right no good for any pistol I used to make my own wheel weights are you still water drop them I used to make them just like Buffalo Bore those are good bullets but you going to pay some good money if you're not making them yourself
Glock 20 most versatile gun on the market.hunt. practice changing barrel to all kinds of caliber .. I did my research and got me a g4 new ..my woods gun in alaska with 16 round of buffalo nore 220 hard cast
I don't have a 10mm pistol, but just for fun I've shot the .40 S&W load of the Double Tap 200-grain WFNGC hard-cast boolit, and had at least one failure to feed out of a box, as I recall. This is out of a dead-reliable pistol that hadn't had any such failures before or since. As far as I can tell from limited experience, the load is pretty reliable, but perhaps not quite as reliable as FMJ or hollow-points. Normal factory 10mm/.40 bullets always have a flat nose or meplat, and those tend to be 6-6.5 mm wide, while the 200-grain WFNGC's meplat is about 8 mm wide (and punches nice, clean holes in paper like a SWC round), which is a significant difference and could be a factor in its reduced feeding reliability (if in fact this is true to begin with). The Buffalo Bore boolit appears to be similar, although I don't have one to measure. Another potential factor is that the hard lead may not be quite as slick as the copper jacket alloy (usually gilding metal--a mild brass). Overall it works, but for actual woods carry in grizzly country I think I'd opt for a .44 Magnum, .454 Casull (or an extra-hot .45 Colt load), or at least a hot .357 Magnum load in a revolver.
Would you recommend changing out the stock barrel on the G20 in order to shoot hard cast (200-230 grain)? My main use would be hiking in Griz country (Glacier National Park).
@@FrankO-ek1ec Yes, some have said that they shoot hardcast out of stock barrel with no major issues (maybe just needing to clean it more frequently). But others recommend to ket a KKM or Lone Wolf barrel in order to shoot the heavier led bullets. Personally, I will probably stick with the stock barrel and buy 200 grain hardcast underwood for the woods - I probably will not end up shooting much of it anyway. (I've heard that the 220 grain hardcast can cause issues in the stock barrel). And I will practice with a lighter, copper bullet of course.
Hickok you rock. Could not stand it anymore. After watching most of the vids and doing my homework on your range tour. I have started my range. Will post a vid of it just for giggles for ya. Keep them comming! I have found responsible reloads work great in my G19. Using plated bullets. They hit great and cost a lot less.
Necking down is decreasing the case diameter at the bullet end, as in a .357 sig. The .40 case is a shortened version of the 10mm case, the diameter is the same, it is the length which is reduced.
When the FBI was developing the 10mm cartridge they got half the equation right, they just forgot to clone Hickok for use as agents that could handle it...
I have four glocks. All hang and occasionally misfeed or stove pipe... especially the G36! That’s most likely not the cartridge but the gun. My G41 never fails!!! Try the new Springfield in 10mm XDM Elite. No stove pipes or misfeeds... great content!
As Mr Hickok said, the hardcast rounds are absolutley ideal for defense against a large wild predator, as it will garner maximum penetration. As for the 2 legged predator, hardcast will OVERpenetrate, & possibly hit an innocent in a self defense scenario. (no bueno) So use soft leaded FMJ/defense rounds for urban carry, & hardcast for a backup whilst hunting!
Yes. It will be held in place by your extractor. The headspace is different. If you fire too many of them one of two things will occur; The front end of your chamber will get dirty and will need to be cleaned or it may cause a KB, and you'll over stress the extractor and it will crack and break causing a real nasty lock up. But, yes, it's okay for a few rounds or in an emergency.
Hickock's,"Musical Instruments"! Underwood also makes a 220 grain Hard Cast RFN cartridge. I hear that the Underwood version is somewhat said to be superior to the Buffalo Bore 220 Grain Hard Cast. In that the Underwood 10mm caliber 220grain Hardcast Lead rounds, the bullets are coated to prevent Leading in the barrel, as well as that metallic cartridge cases are also nickel plated. As well as the pricing of the Underwood ammunition is usually at a lesser cost, than that of the Bufallo Bore ammunition.
@@richnunya9547 I've never had any problems with Buffalo Bore not functioning reliably. But then again the Glock 20 is a full frame, so that might be the reason.
What happened at 3:50 of this video? Did the gun jam? Could this have been caused by using the heavier 220 grain bullets? Sorry, newbie here. I just want to make sure that the 220 grain is a reliable round to take into bear country, and that it won't be more likely to jam than lighter loads.
This happened to me as well. from what I have discovered, the powerful round is locking the slide back. To avoid this I purchased an aftermarket 23 lb spring to better handle the powerful BB round. Hope this helps.
@@driverjohns6051 Makes sense - thanks! I now have a 22lb spring in mine, along with a 6 inch aftermarket barrel. The ramp of the barrel was also machined to allow the larger cast loads to feed reliably, and it has worked well so far with the 200grain Under Armor. Still need to test the 220 grain.
@@HopeProphecy Good to know about the ramp of the aftermarket barrel. I have a lone wolf aftermarket barrel and the double tap hard cast rounds would have FTF and on occasion lock back even my 23 lb spring. I haven't had any issues with buffalo bore 220gr hard cast so that is what I have been carrying as my camping/hunting back up gun.
@@driverjohns6051 Yes, that makes sense. Mine is Lone Wolf as well. I happen to live near their factory, and they machined the ramp in front of me the same day I bought it. I'm sure they would do that for you free of charge if you mailed it to them.
I got to have a Glock 29 10mm; I've been saving up for a 10mm for awhile & the G29 runs $520 & I saw a kimber 10mm for $1400. I'm getting the Glock which holds 10+1 10mm.👍
It would interesting to find out if Underwood settled on 220 grain as their top 10mm load based on Hickok45's series of hardcast tests, or if they decided on 220 purely through parallel, independent testing. But UW 220 grain hardcast seems to be the very best, top of the line factory 10mm load for critter defense or hunting. The heaviest while still being stable, and the hottest.
If you are asking whether a .40 S&W bullet will travel down the barrel of a 10mm, it will, because they have the same diameter. But to fire a .40 S&W cartridge in a 10mm semi-auto pistol is not recommended (very different chamber dimensions)
His son John - "Big John". They collaborate as a team. Hickok shoots, John films and edits, John is also a strong driving force on the creative side of the videos, with many of the setups ideas being his. Cheers
Why is there no Compact Glock 10mm? Just full size and subcompact. Also why doesn't Sig have a high capacity 10mm? There need to be more guns chambered in 10mm!
Glock doesn't manufacture compact pistols when it comes to 10mm Auto and .45 Auto because there's no real benefit to having a compact pistol with the larger cartridges. They do, however, manufacture the model 38 which is chambered in .45 G.A.P. which utilizes the 19/23/32 frame.
+Jason Rookard So why a sub compact 10 then? I see a place for a compact 10. More 'handy' than a sub, more easily carried than a full size ... If I was in the US that's what I'd carry .. Best of both worlds.
So why isn't it "too much" for the sub-compact? This also bothered me when looking at the glock lineup. I understand why they don't have a compact 45acp because they need to justify the existence of their 45gap round for which they do make a compact. But why don't they make a compact 10mm?
the glock 29 subcompact really isn't a subcompact it's about same size as a glock 19. just grip tiny bit shorter. it's pretty much a compact the slide is thick and heavy and it's big. loved my 29
Thank you for the vdo, your endorsement and demonstration helped me decide to order a box of the Hard Cast Buffalo Bore. I won't be plinking with it though, its going to be the woods round for the very rare chance of an animal encounter.
My issue with this video is that one of the rounds hung up. It wasn’t the fault of the barrel. The issue is with the spring not being strong enough to handle the hot heavy 220 grain cartridge. One hung up cartridge in the most dependable pistol I’ve owned causes me to lose faith in the setup. Go with a lighter dependable load.
That's pretty accurate. My 20SF, 29SF and 30SF converted to a 29SF have less recoil than the 21SF and 30SF assuming a roughly equivalent load. .357 is much more of a snap (like hot .40), 10mm is a strong push backwards, and .45 is a push with a fair amount of snap. Just got a second 21SF to convert to .460 Roland (will still shoot .45 ACP), should be fun. 10mm is still by far the best pistol round especially if you need a round that can take a bear but not be overkill for a bad guy.
Thanks for the test, Hickok45/10...I'm glad that the BB load spins. I've read that it's about the non-jacketed types skidding across the 'grooves' , instead of getting a good bite. Polygonal being inverted and not gripping the round with an edge. If it's not hardness, then it's curious to me. The Glock barrel is a bit tighter as well, which would help.
IMO, the Glock 20/29/40 is the most versatile handgun on the market. This handgun will fire either the 10mm or the .40 cal with no modifications to the weapon. The 20/29/40 can be converted into a .357 SIG with a mere swap of the barrel. Everything else is the same; from the upper through the lower to the magazine. If you want to plink and still have a reliable self defense handgun, get yourself some .40 cal. If you want something a significantly more powerful than the .40 (the snub nose 10mm), then get yourself some good 10mm or .357 SIG. They both have some good knock down permanence. You never going to know where you may find yourself and the availability of certain types of ammunition. I've got all 3 barrels (10mm, .40 cal. & .357 SIG) for that exact reason. As the old saying goes: "It's better to have and not not need, then to need and not have."
Sounds pretty much like the rest of us old folks Hickok. Watching you get excited when your shooting reminds me of a when I was a kid. Guess staying young and healthy is all about your attitude than anything else. Actually I'll be 70 in a few months and I still mix it up with the kids playing BF3 on my PC (when I'm not writing, reading, watching or shooting (or ducking my wife).
Don't forget if you get the Glock 29 in 10mm, you can drop the same sized 40S&W barrel in there to fire the cheaper 40S&W. My neighbor just found out about this and is going to get a 40S&W barrel to do this so he can shoot at the range more.
I live in Alaska & this is precisely what I carry in the bush. Fortunately, I’ve only come upon a bear one time (on foot), & it was black, not brown, & quickly ran into the bush away from us. Thank you, Lord.
Really? I'll watch for that issue and check it out. I used to subscribe to three or four gun rags, but in recent years, I just pick up a couple here and there if I see enough interesting articles in them.
After watching a ton of hickock videos, it's easy to underestimate just how mind-blowingly accurate he is with handguns.
He's using a specific technique only available to people who are hand and eye dominant on either side. He's right handed, left eyed.
He's got his right arm dead straight, right cheek on his right bicep, left eye behind the sights. This gives him an extra point of stabilizing contact.
I'm wired the same way. Hurts us doing long gun work but in handguns, we can lean into it.
For close range we tighten both arms, elbows bent and dropped, bring the sights closer in.
One of my daughters has a G29 and carries XTP for human seldefense, and Buffalo Bore Hardcast for hiking with her kids in Alaska!
When this channel stops producing videos, UA-cam is dead to me.
Blackbeard357 Agreed.
soon. :/
Blackbeard357 yes
Aye mate, they're gonna run way too light with out him.
It's kinda cool that there are *230* likes on this comment.
That's sort of how my life operates: I eat, then shoot, answer messages / email, then shoot, bushhog the Compound, then shoot, eat lunch, then shoot, go to a movie, then shoot, sleep, then shoot, read a book, then shoot, watch a movie, then shoot, etc, etc, :-)
hickok45 sounds like you're living the dream!
hickok45 life is good
True shooter
You watch an awful lot of movies!
Not too much time for shootin..
Hickok45 should have his own TV show!
erniebanks88 We do; it's right here! :-)
+hickok45 Ain't that the truth. You're part of a new generation of entertainers, seriously. This is almost certainly the future.
He should take the late Gunnies spot representing Glock & a show on the history channel?
@@hickok45 I dont know how to live life without your UA-cam channel
@@kanesilverbackegjsavagewbaltim 😅😅😅😅
Wearing Harambe shirts before it was a big deal
Btw, Underwood and Buffalo Bore are exceptional ammo makers!
Yeah, I did not know they loaded heavy hard cast rounds. I'll have to get some at some point and continue the experiment.
Bought a Gen 4 Glock 20 a few years back, gotta say it is one hell of a great firearm. I love shooting 10mm because it is such a beast of a round.
Just bought a 29. Came here knowing I will find out more about it than anywhere else. Thank You ! I mostly got black bears in my back yard but they do come to the front door once in awhile. And as I don't collect this gun should do well as CCW. The guy at the store I bought it from was as happy as I was about this weapon and highly recommended it. He was ex sheriff so I trusted his expertise.
How’s your Glock 29 treating you now? I live in Juneau Alaska I hike and pick berries a lot with my kids,Im about to buy the G29 gen 4 this coming week.we only have black bears and brown bears here,no grizzlies.
@@jefferylawrence9812 I don't think you will regret it. I changed the trigger to something from Johnny Glocks. It is a stock trigger smoothed out with less take up so the travel is shorter but not unsafe. I also put some bigger buttons on it like slide and mag release. Old guy hands lol
@@jerrypeevey thanks so much for your reply!! Been watching review videos.i just sold my Glock 27 .40 I want to upgrade,there’s just absolutely no outdoors type ammo here for the .40 but tons of 10mm ammo!!
"I'm not a hunter." All the animals in the forest breathe a collective sigh a relief.
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10:56 To anyone that enters Hickok45's land without permission I just wanted to say R.I.P.
I'm pretty sure that's Harambe on Hickok's Shirt! Glocks out for Harambe!
Glocks out for Harambe..that’s classic!
Thank you Hickok45After watching your videos on the 10mm I will be picking up my new 20sf 5/16/16. I'm a big .45 fan and seeing you have so much fun with the G20 made me want to get one. After years of .45 in many different styles the 10mm seams like the logical next step. Thanks
Hickok45, your my favorite. I could view your stuff for hours, almost more fun than shooting myself. Very informative video. Keep them coming. Thanks!
You're the man Hickok. Really insane how quickly you put rounds where you want them with 10mm recoil.
Your accuracy and competence shows you have to be shooting that much! Another brilliant video - thanks, Hickok45 - you keep British shooters sane with the views of your shooting and having fun.
Just bought my first 10mm in a Glock 29, I've gained a nice firearm collection the last few years and I always look to your indirect advice for my next purchase. Thanks for doing what you do . Compound looks awesome! Keep doin what your doin and we will follow!
I love tye 20 and 29 but check out the xdm elite in 10mm its like a size in betwween the 20 and 29 and damn does it look good!
i LOVE this guys backyard range!!!
A G29 w/ a lone wolf .40 barrel for target/range was my first pistol, and it's still my favorite!! You'll love it, it's a really versatile setup.
I have hunted Bear, and used a 30 30 because it has been proven and worked to take black bear. A CMMG MK10 is what I am testing with various loads, to take bear. I didn’t originally buy this pistol for bear, but instead for Whitetail. After watching your videos of 10 mm which it seems you enjoy quite a bit, you have given me some new ideas for loads to try with. Thx again
I was doing the same thing when I began shooting again after about 15 years of not shooting much. Typically what causes that is Recoil Anticipation. This means that you are pushing forward slightly in attempt to "combat" the recoil. Just relax and let the recoil happen and your shots will hit center. It takes discipline and practice to get rid of the habit, but you can do it! Hope this helps.
Yet another fine video from the best gun channel on youtube, in this man's opinion.
Agreed.
Hickok will genuinely live on forever with this top shelf channel.
Almost excited to see a 95 yr old Hickok out there slammin the gong with a yet to be invented 10mm all 15 rounds. Lol you're already a living legend may aswell stack everything you possibly can. Only thing left really is to be reviewing firearms from your electric scooter at 100yrs old
Harambe on his shirt
My EDC is a Glock 29 (smaller) 10mm. It is a tack driver and has been very reliable. I carry it with Winchester 175 grain Silver tips. Recoil is really not bad and probably less than my G-23 and G-27 in that department, in part due to the massive slide on these things. I feel more confident with it than a .45 because this will punch through car doors and like barricades if needed and a .45 may not.
Old post I know, but with the right ammo, 45 will do the same. I like both cartridges and trust them both.
Thank you for your willingness to share.
Because of videos such as this, I just this morning acquired a Glock 20 10mm!!
Thank you!
Hickok shoots better groups when he's "not shooting for groups" than i do when i am shooting for groups
Ahhhhh the lovely sound of our 2nd amendment. Thanks a bunch for taking the time to produce great videos. I wish you would produce a gun safety video for all school kids to watch and learn. I firmly believe it would cut down on accidental gun accidents.
Either a Hidden Hybrid Holster or the new StealthGear holster I recently received. I'll have to look at the video and see if I can tell. Both are great holsters.
THOSE THINGS LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE SOME GOOD RECOIL
You gotta love the 10mm's!!!!
Love 10mm ,The buffalo bore bullets are a bit set forward and have a chance of them not allowing the slide to fully close. A much better hard cast bullet is for sure the Double tap they care about the product that is made, just as powerful but a better company.
Love your videos, your real and thats what the viewers need, thanks keep up the good work!!!
Hickok trying to spread out his shots is more accurate than I will ever be
as a subscriber that shoots at range quite a bit, your accuracy is underrated. You're a damn good shot with everything you shoot. Props Hickok45 keep it up and long live the Volunteer State! Hendersonville,TN sub here!
hey hickok45 I would love to see the glock 29 revisited. Thanks
Great video! I just picked up 50 Underwood 220gr hard cast rounds for about $50, which included shipping. Still a little steep, but seems cheap compared to the BB. There's a good spreadsheet I found for comparing the energy from these two rounds too. I believe the Underwood round was about 100fps faster than the BB too, which considering it's a cheaper round makes it all the sweeter. Here's the data:
UNDERWOOD 220GR HC - 1,211fps - 717 ft-lbf
BUFFALO BORE 220GR HCFN 21C - 1,109fps - 601 ft-lbf
I love watching Hickok have so much fun shooting. Makes my Heart rejoice every time i watch him shoot.
Your exactly right Hickock, it makes 3x as many holes as a 5 shot revolver so even a 500 or 454 the glock 20 is ALMOST matching it for firepower! And a faster reload! I like the 200 grain HCFN buffalo bore best but 220 is great also!
Yes, nice. This is a few years old. I own the Glock Model 40, it loves the 180 Underwood. I bet it would do great with the hard cast 200's.
Love the rapid-fire symphony! The Hickok Percussion Orchestra.
from Buffalo Bore
Hard Cast Bullets in Polygonal Barrels
HARD CAST BULLETS IN POLYGONAL BARRELS
True hard cast bullets (as opposed to lead swaged bullets) that are properly lubed will not lead foul polygonal barrels any more than any other type of rifled barrel. Ever since Glock Corporation warned to not use lead bullets in their pistols with polygonal barrels, a myth that hard cast bullets will lead foul polygonal barrels has become wide spread in some parts of the firearms world. However, the myth is untrue. Hard cast bullets are not "lead" bullets. (See my article on "Dangerous Pure Lead Cowboy Bullets")
Pure lead or nearly pure lead bullets have a tendency to foul any barrel, not just polygonal barrels. Years ago, when several Glock pistols experienced cracked barrels because of fouling build up from shooting pure lead bullets, Glock issued a warning not to shoot lead bullets in their polygonal barrels. From that warning, the myth that you should not shoot hard cast bullets in polygonal barrels was born.
Provided you use real hard cast bullets with good lube, you can shoot them all you like in polygonal barrels without causing lead fouling deposits at the front of your chamber or anywhere else in the barrel. If you are concerned about lead fouling from hard cast bullets, all you have to do is to clean your barrel after firing hard cast bullets and before firing any jacketed bullets. However, in my experience, quality hard cast bullets won't foul a Glock polygonal barrel or any other type of barrel but lead bullets normally will.
+kspdt Your comment was very informative and i enjoyed reading it. Thank you for contributing something positive to the internet.
kspdt thank you for the info. will gas checked hardcast bullets from doubletap reduce chances of fouling even more?
I shot many hard cast bullets from a 1st gen 9mm Glock back in the day, with no leading and with plain based bullets.
Just use quality bullets and data specific to cast bullets from a reliable source, and use your head and when developing a new load check the barrel periodically.
I do use gas checks for 44 magnum at higher power levels. Whether a gas check is needed for 10mm would depend on choice of bullet, powder, and charge level.
Pure lead bullets you are right no good for any pistol I used to make my own wheel weights are you still water drop them I used to make them just like Buffalo Bore those are good bullets but you going to pay some good money if you're not making them yourself
Rewatching this; the man's recoil control is legendary! Great shootin'!
Thanks for the great info - I just got a G20 Gen 4 on order, so I'm soaking up as much as I can!
Yes it is. With velocities and muzzle energy approaching ballistics of the .41 magnum.
Glock 20 most versatile gun on the market.hunt. practice changing barrel to all kinds of caliber .. I did my research and got me a g4 new ..my woods gun in alaska with 16 round of buffalo nore 220 hard cast
Same for me but I'm in Montana! Love carrying this puppy in the woods
220 grains at 1200fps. What?!?! That's ridiculously powerful, that's second only to .44 magnum.
I don't have a 10mm pistol, but just for fun I've shot the .40 S&W load of the Double Tap 200-grain WFNGC hard-cast boolit, and had at least one failure to feed out of a box, as I recall. This is out of a dead-reliable pistol that hadn't had any such failures before or since. As far as I can tell from limited experience, the load is pretty reliable, but perhaps not quite as reliable as FMJ or hollow-points.
Normal factory 10mm/.40 bullets always have a flat nose or meplat, and those tend to be 6-6.5 mm wide, while the 200-grain WFNGC's meplat is about 8 mm wide (and punches nice, clean holes in paper like a SWC round), which is a significant difference and could be a factor in its reduced feeding reliability (if in fact this is true to begin with). The Buffalo Bore boolit appears to be similar, although I don't have one to measure. Another potential factor is that the hard lead may not be quite as slick as the copper jacket alloy (usually gilding metal--a mild brass). Overall it works, but for actual woods carry in grizzly country I think I'd opt for a .44 Magnum, .454 Casull (or an extra-hot .45 Colt load), or at least a hot .357 Magnum load in a revolver.
These are 2 off my favorite weapons I have them both I carry the 29 every day awesome weapon
I LOVE my 20SF! I carry it every single day
I always find myself watching and re watching your videos. I feel I learn a great deal from your reviews. You're my favorite you-tuber ✌️😎™.
Would you recommend changing out the stock barrel on the G20 in order to shoot hard cast (200-230 grain)? My main use would be hiking in Griz country (Glacier National Park).
not true at all
@@buddybbuddyb3687 what's not true?
I have the same question . Did you find an answer ?
@@FrankO-ek1ec Yes, some have said that they shoot hardcast out of stock barrel with no major issues (maybe just needing to clean it more frequently). But others recommend to ket a KKM or Lone Wolf barrel in order to shoot the heavier led bullets. Personally, I will probably stick with the stock barrel and buy 200 grain hardcast underwood for the woods - I probably will not end up shooting much of it anyway. (I've heard that the 220 grain hardcast can cause issues in the stock barrel). And I will practice with a lighter, copper bullet of course.
@@HopeProphecy gotcha . Thanks .
I just picked up the 29 with some 10mm Auto 140 Grain Xtreme Penetrator Box.
any feed issues with that ammo?
I have the same gun and ammo. No feed issues and wow!
XxVeNoMxX glock 29 sucks jam a lot but g20 is a keeper . I own both cheers but sold my g29
Hickok you rock. Could not stand it anymore. After watching most of the vids and doing my homework on your range tour. I have started my range. Will post a vid of it just for giggles for ya. Keep them comming! I have found responsible reloads work great in my G19. Using plated bullets. They hit great and cost a lot less.
Glock 20 & 29 10mm Auto, hell yeah !!!
Necking down is decreasing the case diameter at the bullet end, as in a .357 sig.
The .40 case is a shortened version of the 10mm case, the diameter is the same, it is the length which is reduced.
When the FBI was developing the 10mm cartridge they got half the equation right, they just forgot to clone Hickok for use as agents that could handle it...
I have four glocks. All hang and occasionally misfeed or stove pipe... especially the G36! That’s most likely not the cartridge but the gun. My G41 never fails!!! Try the new Springfield in 10mm XDM Elite. No stove pipes or misfeeds... great content!
User error. There is no way in hell you have four glocks that have issues.
I always learn so much when I watch your videos. Thanks for uploading :)
Man oh man. That round hit the gong pretty hard. I love the 10mm.
Always a pleasure watching you work, my brother. I never get tired of your videos, and have learned a lot of information. Geno (G19)
Chuck Norris checks under his bed for Hickok45 at night...
The G29 gen 4 with raven vanguard 2 appendix holster. Best power carry ccw.
Hickok explains everything you need to know about a certain gun
As Mr Hickok said, the hardcast rounds are absolutley ideal for defense against a large wild predator, as it will garner maximum penetration.
As for the 2 legged predator, hardcast will OVERpenetrate, & possibly hit an innocent in a self defense scenario. (no bueno)
So use soft leaded FMJ/defense rounds for urban carry, & hardcast for a backup whilst hunting!
Yes. It will be held in place by your extractor. The headspace is different. If you fire too many of them one of two things will occur; The front end of your chamber will get dirty and will need to be cleaned or it may cause a KB, and you'll over stress the extractor and it will crack and break causing a real nasty lock up. But, yes, it's okay for a few rounds or in an emergency.
Love my glock 20. It is a great home defense round in 180 grain hollow point
Hickock's,"Musical Instruments"!
Underwood also makes a 220 grain Hard Cast RFN cartridge.
I hear that the Underwood version is somewhat said to be superior to the Buffalo Bore 220 Grain Hard Cast.
In that the Underwood 10mm caliber 220grain Hardcast Lead rounds, the bullets are coated to prevent Leading in the barrel, as well as that metallic cartridge cases are also nickel plated.
As well as the pricing of the Underwood ammunition is usually at a lesser cost, than that of the Bufallo Bore ammunition.
Thanks for this well presented demo. I learn much from you.
I keep watching this video to convince myself that I need a Glock 29..
Ammo08 Take the plunge- I did.
Go with the Glock 20 and enjoy the advantages of a full frame
I got one, put a kkm barrel with compensator in it. Less recoil than a glock 20 but more concealable. It's my baby.
oh and to not, the buffalo bore doesn't function reliably. I carry underwood.
@@richnunya9547 I've never had any problems with Buffalo Bore not functioning reliably. But then again the Glock 20 is a full frame, so that might be the reason.
Glock 20 & 29 FTW
What happened at 3:50 of this video? Did the gun jam? Could this have been caused by using the heavier 220 grain bullets? Sorry, newbie here. I just want to make sure that the 220 grain is a reliable round to take into bear country, and that it won't be more likely to jam than lighter loads.
This happened to me as well. from what I have discovered, the powerful round is locking the slide back. To avoid this I purchased an aftermarket 23 lb spring to better handle the powerful BB round. Hope this helps.
@@driverjohns6051 Makes sense - thanks! I now have a 22lb spring in mine, along with a 6 inch aftermarket barrel. The ramp of the barrel was also machined to allow the larger cast loads to feed reliably, and it has worked well so far with the 200grain Under Armor. Still need to test the 220 grain.
@@HopeProphecy Good to know about the ramp of the aftermarket barrel. I have a lone wolf aftermarket barrel and the double tap hard cast rounds would have FTF and on occasion lock back even my 23 lb spring. I haven't had any issues with buffalo bore 220gr hard cast so that is what I have been carrying as my camping/hunting back up gun.
@@driverjohns6051 Yes, that makes sense. Mine is Lone Wolf as well. I happen to live near their factory, and they machined the ramp in front of me the same day I bought it. I'm sure they would do that for you free of charge if you mailed it to them.
I got to have a Glock 29 10mm; I've been saving up for a 10mm for awhile & the G29 runs $520 & I saw a kimber 10mm for $1400. I'm getting the Glock which holds 10+1 10mm.👍
It would interesting to find out if Underwood settled on 220 grain as their top 10mm load based on Hickok45's series of hardcast tests, or if they decided on 220 purely through parallel, independent testing.
But UW 220 grain hardcast seems to be the very best, top of the line factory 10mm load for critter defense or hunting. The heaviest while still being stable, and the hottest.
He popped that ram near dead center! At that distance with a handgun....
I agree, he's a robot. A finely tuned shooting machine!
If you are asking whether a .40 S&W bullet will travel down the barrel of a 10mm, it will, because they have the same diameter. But to fire a .40 S&W cartridge in a 10mm semi-auto pistol is not recommended (very different chamber dimensions)
Thank you Mr. Hickok45 for uploading my video request...Great video as always!!! : )
Just love watching people shoot the mighty 10mm.
A great round.
His son John - "Big John". They collaborate as a team. Hickok shoots, John films and edits, John is also a strong driving force on the creative side of the videos, with many of the setups ideas being his. Cheers
That metal spins around so fast from getting hit by 10mm😳
Hickok, if you havn't tryed the Double Tap 10mm ammo you owe it to yourself. They are reputed to be the kings of the 10mm.
Great vid, as usual! Hickok and John, you're awesome!
Why is there no Compact Glock 10mm? Just full size and subcompact. Also why doesn't Sig have a high capacity 10mm? There need to be more guns chambered in 10mm!
Glock doesn't manufacture compact pistols when it comes to 10mm Auto and .45 Auto because there's no real benefit to having a compact pistol with the larger cartridges. They do, however, manufacture the model 38 which is chambered in .45 G.A.P. which utilizes the 19/23/32 frame.
+Jason Rookard So why a sub compact 10 then? I see a place for a compact 10. More 'handy' than a sub, more easily carried than a full size ... If I was in the US that's what I'd carry .. Best of both worlds.
cuz 10mm is a beast. it has similar ballistics to 357 magnum. the recoil in a compact 10mm would be too much.
So why isn't it "too much" for the sub-compact? This also bothered me when looking at the glock lineup. I understand why they don't have a compact 45acp because they need to justify the existence of their 45gap round for which they do make a compact. But why don't they make a compact 10mm?
the glock 29 subcompact really isn't a subcompact it's about same size as a glock 19. just grip tiny bit shorter. it's pretty much a compact the slide is thick and heavy and it's big. loved my 29
Thank you for the vdo, your endorsement and demonstration helped me decide to order a box of the Hard Cast Buffalo Bore. I won't be plinking with it though, its going to be the woods round for the very rare chance of an animal encounter.
My issue with this video is that one of the rounds hung up. It wasn’t the fault of the barrel. The issue is with the spring not being strong enough to handle the hot heavy 220 grain cartridge. One hung up cartridge in the most dependable pistol I’ve owned causes me to lose faith in the setup. Go with a lighter dependable load.
Hickok45 blowing away 40 dollars for our viewing pleasure. Thank you sir!! I love my Glock 20. that underwood is HOT.
That's pretty accurate. My 20SF, 29SF and 30SF converted to a 29SF have less recoil than the 21SF and 30SF assuming a roughly equivalent load. .357 is much more of a snap (like hot .40), 10mm is a strong push backwards, and .45 is a push with a fair amount of snap.
Just got a second 21SF to convert to .460 Roland (will still shoot .45 ACP), should be fun. 10mm is still by far the best pistol round especially if you need a round that can take a bear but not be overkill for a bad guy.
Thanks for the test, Hickok45/10...I'm glad that the BB load spins. I've read that it's about the non-jacketed types skidding across the 'grooves' , instead of getting a good bite. Polygonal being inverted and not gripping the round with an edge. If it's not hardness, then it's curious to me. The Glock barrel is a bit tighter as well, which would help.
glock 29 makes for a good beer joint gun.
Hickok You are certainly a great shot. Very accurate.
IMO, the Glock 20/29/40 is the most versatile handgun on the market. This handgun will fire either the 10mm or the .40 cal with no modifications to the weapon. The 20/29/40 can be converted into a .357 SIG with a mere swap of the barrel. Everything else is the same; from the upper through the lower to the magazine. If you want to plink and still have a reliable self defense handgun, get yourself some .40 cal. If you want something a significantly more powerful than the .40 (the snub nose 10mm), then get yourself some good 10mm or .357 SIG. They both have some good knock down permanence.
You never going to know where you may find yourself and the availability of certain types of ammunition. I've got all 3 barrels (10mm, .40 cal. & .357 SIG) for that exact reason.
As the old saying goes: "It's better to have and not not need, then to need and not have."
Sounds pretty much like the rest of us old folks Hickok. Watching you get excited when your shooting reminds me of a when I was a kid. Guess staying young and healthy is all about your attitude than anything else. Actually I'll be 70 in a few months and I still mix it up with the kids playing BF3 on my PC (when I'm not writing, reading, watching or shooting (or ducking my wife).
Don't forget if you get the Glock 29 in 10mm, you can drop the same sized 40S&W barrel in there to fire the cheaper 40S&W. My neighbor just found out about this and is going to get a 40S&W barrel to do this so he can shoot at the range more.
wow, that is a beautiful Glock 20. I've been wanting a G20 but it makes me think twice due to ammo cost. great video.
Always fun to watch Hickok shoot!
I live in Alaska & this is precisely what I carry in the bush. Fortunately, I’ve only come upon a bear one time (on foot), & it was black, not brown, & quickly ran into the bush away from us. Thank you, Lord.
Really? I'll watch for that issue and check it out. I used to subscribe to three or four gun rags, but in recent years, I just pick up a couple here and there if I see enough interesting articles in them.
hickok your recoil control is excellent... looks like you are shooting a 9mm
You know what Hickok45? You should be on Top Shot.
You read my mind. I was just looking back at your Glock 29 vids.