Drum Teacher Reaction: MARK ZONDER | Fates Warning - 'Life in Still Water'
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#MarkZonder #drums #FatesWarning
Mark Zonder. My idol. The most unique and special drummer in modern metal.
Mark Zonder es un baterista con un estilo creativo sobresaliente, no es de hacer mucho alarde ni dar toques rapidisimos pero tiene una creatividad enorme y singular...es para mi de los mejores bateristas que existen
Parallels was released in 1991. Saw them open for Dream Theater in 94, and Mark had a similar setup. On the Parallels deluxe reissue, there is a video doc on the making of the record, and the famous producer, Terry Brown (the guy that produced almost every Rush record), said that he had never met any drummer with the impeccable kind of timing that Mark had. So, that means he is saying Mark has better timing than Neil Peart. There is even better dynamic and beautiful percussion examples on this record. It's a masterpiece all around.
Zonder’s style is very elegant. He leaves so much space for other instruments and the flow of his playing is something very special.
Agree Pete! 👌
well stated
The flow. That is so right, his playing is so fluid in the song. "Monument" is a massive example, one of my absolute favorite songs ever.
He is so interesting, textural, and dynamic.
Zonder has and always will be on the short list of my all-time top 10 favorite drummers.
Mark is a phenomenal drummer....I've talked to him quite a lot... very humble person... dedicated to his craft..,
My first time catching Mark Zonder and Fates Warning!
I love discovering all this new stuff thanks to you guys.
You could check this out:
ua-cam.com/video/naCAHquuC6I/v-deo.html
Or, this one ☺️
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@Andrew please look for "Warlord and Mark Zonder".... enjoy my friend
Greetings from germany 😃
Andrew, need to check out more about mark, is one of my favs of all the time, elegant, smart and so interesting way to play!
Next time Brother, please react to a studio version! The production will take your appreciation to the next level, I promise!
YES! Fates Warning! Finally. Such a fantastic & musically talented band who’ve been around since the mid 80’s. This video was likely from 1991/92 from their Parallels album which is excellent. Mark was the drummer for a band called Warlord before becoming the drummer for Fates Warning on a number of albums. Mark left Fates & was replaced by Bobby Jarzombek who is another beast. You may have reacted to one of Bobby’s videos quite a while back? Check out Fates’ song, “One”. You & anyone else will be thoroughly impressed!
yes, bobby is an absolute beast!!!
I have been a Fates fan since the beginning. Best friggin band ever. And I am in favor of Arch. Plus Arch Matheos band is friggin awesome as well
@@johnunderwood3132 rite on brother!!! i prefer ray actually, but BOTH are great!!! cheers!!!
@@geraldrauch1701 Yes, Ray gives such epic and almost haunting performances when the subject matter calls for them, and his singing has aged like a fine wine. Great band overall.
Watch tower.back in 1990.
I'm the requestor.....my unspoken comment was "The song isn't terribly good here..." What I meant was the song QUALITY isn't terribly good. However that hi-hat and electronic pad work is the reason to see this specific video. He's actually got 2 electronic pads. The one to the left of his hi-hat (the white pad) and then the one that you thought were rim hits. Thanks again for the reaction!
Fantastic Darren!!! I love this video bro!
And Mark, I have pinned your comment. I hope you are well.
I am delighted to discover a completely (new to me) FANTASTIC drummer
Thanks Darren for exposing Andrew and others to Fates Warning. I'm a HUGE fan of the band (and sister bands OSI and Arch/Matheos) and hope Andrew will do a deep-dive into FW. I provided a link to a Playlist that samples their history in my comment - I totally missed this vid when it went up.
Right about orchestration. That has always been his signature.
So good Julien! 🙌
Fates Warning is a very underrated prog metal band. For me, the albums "Disconnected" and "Perfect Symmetry" are my favs. Mark Zonder is definitely a unique drummer.
Awesome stuff Dave! 👌
Perfect Symetry was/is my favorite album of theirs w/ Theories of Flight a close second.
fates _underrated_ ? From my youth (90-00?) I remember them being considered the benchmark of progressive metal along with watchtower and ... what was its name... queensryche yeah that's the one. Damn this is not memory, this is a pasta strainer
What about Guardian!?
@@patrickbucher87 I used to love No Exit. Not the greatest as far as sounds and production, but there are some cool tracks and I believe it's a concept album, at least some of it.
Mark Zonder is a fantastic and extremely underrated drummer!
Yeah I had never heard of him before peoples requests! 👀
He worked with Graham Bonnet by the way.
I can't count the number of hours I sat as a kid with headphones on playing along to Mark's drumming. Outstanding player.
Every drummer Fate's Warning has had is a legend. Steve Zimmerman, Zonder, Bobby Jarzombek.
Yes this is AMAZING
Love your work by the way. You recently featured a good mate Dan Claydon on your page :)
I cannot believe that even to this day this is the only video in existence looking at Mark’s playing. Constantly overlooked and MASSIVELY underrated. Nobody plays/played quite like him. This is actually almost as tame as he go with Fates Warning. Some stuff is absolutely insane! In 1999 Fates Warning put out a concept album called A Pleasant Shade of Grey (Gray if you’re American) where the entire track is essentially a single song split into parts. It’s really worth checking out.
Thanks for reminding me. I need to get back to him!
Mark is one of the best and underrated and a great French style drummers. Please play more of this band
I will! 🙌
He is incredibly kind...an awesome person...
I am so happy when someone discovers my favorite band and drummer of all times, they are criminally underrated!!!
Mark has such a unique style, and even though his replacement is a great drummer too (obviously 😉), it was never the same. I love his use of cymbals and dynamics!
Love this. I need to see more of them!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums you do, because you are an amazing reactor! I literally shed tears with your "Xenochrist" reaction 😁😁😁
Underappreciated.
@@qwert4560 unfortunately... their loss though.
Mark Zonder is one of the most unique drummers out there. Check out Fates Warnings entire catalog. You will be astounded.
Can't wait to check out more!
one of my favorite bands EVER!!!
Great to hear Gerald 👌
@@AndrewRooneyDrums great content andrew!!! you should definitely check out their current drummer, bobby jarzombek...he's got his own thing goin...oh, n by the way, i'm a 51 year old guitar player that loves watching amazing drummers!!! cheers brother!!! 🍺
My favorite drummer of all time :) Thanks to the dude who was requesting that video😀😀😀
@Andrew Rooney Drums: As a child of the 80's check out his early stuff with "Warlord" great band
Thanks for the tip! 🙏
You are welcome na friend ☺️
Fates doesn’t get the recognition they deserve! I started out playing drums at a very young age and started taking lessons in elementary school, the way Mark plays was the direction our school drum teacher took us, why play 4/4 when it sounds so much better in 9/4? Mark Zonder is amazing as is the rest of Fates Warning.
Yes! Mark Zonder is a fantastic drummer! 👍 Very creative and unique style. Has done some great work in other progressive rock/metal projects as well. Check out some of his later stuff too. Thanks, great video! 👍
I’m sure I’ll be looking at more of his stuff. Thanks David!
Yeah, Zonder is a fantastic player. Fates Warning didn't click with me until a few years ago, but I'm mad for the band now. The albums they've done with Jarzombek are out of this world.
Awesome!
Andrew you are probably my favorite UA-cam reaction drummer. Keep the vids coming man and great job!!! By the way Fates Warning are still putting out great music.
Thank you!!! I can't wait to check out more from Fates Warning
Mark has been my favorite drummer since I first heard him play, which for me was the first time I heard Perfect Symmetry. And the album was out for years before I actually heard it. So this is like 1994-ish... From then on, I haven't heard a drummer on this planet who can grab my soul like Mark can! It is not only his technique and technical ability, but his style and finesse that make his playing the best, IMHO.
Mark is currently recording the sophomore album for my band Veritas. He is the drummer of our first album "Threads of Fatality" and I absolutely love the grooves he kicks on that album.
I subscribed to your channel... I like the authenticity of your reactions. Keep smiling. 100%
Fates Warning is one of my favs ever. Zonder was unique, nobody plays like him. Bobby Jarzombek is a "better" drummer but the musicality and originality of Mark Zonder are incredible. BTW, that "rim" hits and the "moving" tom are electronic drums. One of the things made Zonder unique was the integration of some electronic drums with the acoustic kit. Nice video as usual, Andrew!
Thanks for the info!
Bobby isn't a better drummer than Mark . . . They are VERY different players/musicians. But Mark took Fates Warning in a new direction in 1989 with his debut on "Perfect Symmetry". It was as if a Fusion player (even though he was in a Metal band) joined a Metal band who was creating a new subgenre, that would become one of the Fathers of Prog Metal. His timing made FW members take a more angular/atypical approach to their melodies. This was pushing the band forward and not afraid to experiment with their sound. Probably the reason they didn't take off like Queensrÿche, and many years later, Dream Theater, because FW didn't follow a formula.
But don't get me wrong, Bobby's last 3 albums with FW and the 2 "Arch/Matheos" (Fates "sister" band) albums are ASTOUNDING. His Brother "Ron" of Watchtower, Blotted Science and Spastic Ink is an INSANE Guitarist :).
@@mvunit3 Of course mate. That's why i quoted "better". Bobby is monster with more common approach.
I was surprised that this drum teacher (no disrespect) had not recognized that it was electronic drums.
"Better" is waaay too subjective for me to go anywhere near.
Mark is one of my all time favorites. Yet Bobby is also right up there.
Great video. Love Mark Zonder's drumming. The album "Parallels" is a must own in my opinion.....oh and he isn't hitting the tom rims...he is hitting Tigger pads that he has placed in various places around his drum kit. ..some are circle pads but the one in front of him is a t-shaped trigger pad.
All those odd sounds you heard are coming from those.
Thanks for the info Mark!
Mark Zonder has been a favorite of mine for a very long time. You mentioned the "offtime china" he uses, he does that a lot in his grooves on the china, or the ride (or bell) and that's a very signature thing of his and Fates Warning's music, and something I also really love to hear from them. I actually started playing drums just because I wanted to attempt this stuff! lol. I'm mainly a guitar player, but several years back my wife had bought me a set of V-Drums for Christmas which are great to have in a home studio, but I spent many hours playing over some FW tracks. No way do I make all of those little hits and everything he does, but it's fun to break them down and put them to the metronome slowly and build them up and try! (Same process for learning anything you want on guitar, no matter how difficult.)
Anyway, if you haven't found them already, Mark has three (I think) videos that are of really good quality that he did at a clinic in which are playthroughs of FW songs, so definitely check those out, or don't and do a reaction instead! Here is a link to one of them that I believe would make a great reaction video if you decide to do more of his. Also, THANK YOU SO MUCH to the one who made this request and made this video happen! - ua-cam.com/video/3s1oacDFWyc/v-deo.html
Mark is one of my all time favorites, so busy & unpredictable !
Please do more reactions for Mark Zonder! This guy have some outstanding videos! His creativity and playing were out of this world, really! I'm a big Fates Warning fan, and until this day I can't believe the drum lines this guy created! Seriously!
Watch any "A Pleasant Shade of Gray" performances or "Leave the Past Behind"
Mark Zonder is pure class! Amazing technique, musicallity, elegance, power, creativity... he has all, he is The Man! 😌☝️
The recording quality in a small enclosed space (I would assume) doesn't do justice to this masterpiece of a song. This is one of the songs I regularly listen to every now and then, ever since I first heard it somewhere in the early nineties.
Anyone hearing this the first time now please go and listen the studio version of the song.
And of course this recording goes with the theme of the channel, didn't mean it like that. Just that this song deserves a listen.
Andrew I really have enjoyed your vids & proud to be a subscriber for some time now,
Fates warning is a great band that has done well & made there own mark & sailed there musical ship very well as metal found itself evolving in many different directions throughout the 90's. Thanks again for a fantastic channel Sir!!
defiantly one of my favorites. Zonder is subtle and precise with his timing. would love to hear your take on the song monument. especially, the bridge instrumental. not only is the playing phenomenal imo but the overall orchestration for me is riveting
Love Mark Zonder, one of my all time favs. The electronic pads are LP Spike triggers. You need to watch more of him, criminally overlooked and in the shadow of Peart and Portnoy.
I discovered Marks drumming when he was in Warlord (Deliver Us - 1983). 🥁
One of the very best drummers in prog. No one could incorporate that much melody in drumming as MZ could. Just a true King of his art!
met him back in 1989 real nice guy love his drumming
Great to hear 💪
Im a huge Zonder fan. Glad i had a chance to see him twice & their previous drummer Steve Zimmerman once. Another excellent drummer you might want to check out.
I had the great privilege of playing in a band with Mark in the late 80’s called Plane English ( spin off of Animotion with Astrid Plane). His drumming was always stellar and the best I’ve ever worked with, not to mention he’s genuinely a nice guy! Nice to see a full video of just him playing 👍
Oh that's awesome Jamie!
Very cool. I will have to look for anything by Plane English!
Been a fan of Fates Warning since 1984. And they have been putting out albums since then, the latest coming out a little over a year ago. (which also had a guest appearance by Gavin Harrison) They definitely had a huge influence on Dream Theater. Mike Portnoy has filled in for them on drums a few times. There is even live footage of him doing 'Life in Still Water' with them on a tour in Brazil in 2012. You reacted to their current drummer, Bobby Jarzombek, who has been in the band since 2007, around that same time, though it wasn't a Fates Warning song. Check out the official bass/drum playthrough of the Fates Warning song, White Flag, from their album Theories of Flight, which came out in 2016. If that gets blocked, Bobby has other playthroughs from earlier albums on his own channel.
Mark Zonder is one of my absolute favorite drummers ever. Totally unique style, while mixing power and finesse. and that high note from Ray was INSANE!
He's using a lot of pads and stuff. Badass hybrid kit player. Fates Warning always had cool rhythm sounds.
Need to check out more
Hands up to Mark Zonder.in my opinion he's the most complex drummer of all times.big fan of Mark Zonder and fates warning. You can also here his drumming with warlord. His band before joining fates.and also other projects he's done.Mark thunder child Zonder.hell yea.
Nice one Antonio
Well the album "A Pleasant Shade of Grey" is pretty much a lesson on drumming all the way through, totally recommended, same as for their live footage and drum footage of that stuff.
Mark Zonder....one of the greats!!!!!
AMAZING
Mark Zonder is a gentlemans drummer who has a skill & understanding wich enables his drumming to compliment his fellow musicians seemingly effortlessly. That is until you watch him play exclusively & seperate from the other pieces in their( Fates Warning band)music & how complex his rhythmic skill carries.Ray Alders singing in these songs are enhanced & thoroughly supported by Mark Zonders drumming wich we are able to fully experience in every song.
Looks like a mini-China with those offbeat hits; I'd seen Zonder in a few ads for GMS drums and Sabian, this honestly is my first time hearing him play too. Pretty darn amazing.
Yeah I really dug it Todd 🥁🙌
Yep, has been requested before! Short while ago by myself amongst others.
I thought so!
as soon as you said Come Together by the Beatles it instantly clicked for me. Great observation and analysis!
Thank you! 🙏
I've been a fan of his drumming over 30 yrs.he is a big influence on my drumming.and he's still killing it.
That's awesome Gary
I just about wore out this cd as well as well as their perfect symmetry album. I believe the rim hits were electronic on the album with effects added. Very cool and talented progressive band. I want to say they shared a practice space with dream theater in the early years. This was a great time for progressive rock between them and queensryche I was in listening heaven. Thanks for this one Andrew and to the person who requested it.
Totally underrated drummer and band!
So good Steven!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Do check out their albums "Perfect Symmetry" and "Parallels" (and others).
Mark Zonder is an incredible drummer. The Parallels album by Fates Warning is my all time favorite album along with the Perfect Symmetry album. Mark uses electronic drums for a lot of the songs. The guy is an icon.
Can’t wait to check out more!
You have to out thus in context, that was around 1995. The first time i listened to parallels in college i was like damn, he has 3 hands because it is impossible to do what he is doing.
100% context is everything
One of my all time favorite Drummers!! Check out his new band A-Z.....He is absolutely amazing on every damn track and the album is a must have!!!
Mark is a fabulous drummer. Fates Warning is sooo under rated. A amazing band to Deep Dive!
Very under rated. I've seen them live 17 times dating back to 1988 at Dallas City limits when Ray could still hit the notes, to Arch/matheos in Houston recently
You should friend me maybe we could see a show together
Zonder… 👍😎👍 Definitely among the best Drummers EVER.!!
My favorite drummer of all time!!
So glad you did a Zonder/Fates video!!
Yesssss matey absolutely yes
Mark rocks
Awesome and inspiring drummer 🤘🏽🥁
Please add more videos from Mark with better drum quality on the sound he has a lot awesome drum videos 🍻
I will do more from him George!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums appreciate a it my friend
Thanks for the reaction videos and great work 🍻💪👋🏼
Zonder is an all time favorite for me. His style is so chill, complex and effortless
The drummer drives the band and Mark Zonder definitely drove Fates Warning during his tenure with them. Very cool to see him play his parts like this.
Zonder is the masterpiece of drumming, after 30 y of playing i manage to play fully only 7 songs of his (1 fates warning and 6 warlord), while i play others, way so many. his complexity is 3pled beyond other drummers so far.
Great reaction video.
Thank's for sharing it.
It was a great pleasure watching it.
Mark Zonder is my favourite Drummer.
And such a nice Guy too ❤️
(Btw.Mark Zonder shared this Video on his Facebook page!)
This Beatles hint...
Not really one of his Influences in Drumming.
Mark Zonder is more like an Unicorn.
Nobody plays and sounds like him.
Very unique and different to all other Drummer's.
If you would like to get more in touch with him, it would make sense to start with Fates Warning's Album : A Pleasant Shade of Grey.
Such an amazing Recierd.
And in humble opinion it is the second best Progressive Metal Album of all time.
Right after Queensryche's Operation Mindcrime.
It's separated in 12 Parts.
And you will find a Drum Cam Video for every single Part here on UA-cam.
With a better Quality.
This high Notes by Ray Alder you mentioned...
You should check out Queensryche's Video Take Hold of the Flame from 1984 LIVE in Tokyo!
That's for a lot of People's was the greatest Vocal Performance of all time.
Without no doubt.
Something you never heard before...
Something you will never hear again.... unfortunately....
Those e5 Note Geoff Tate sung are unbelievable!
The greatest Vocal Performance of the last 500 Years, if you ask me.
This drumming as wel.
By Scott Rockenfield.
Another totally underrated Drummer.
This Guy is incredible.
Ray Alder's greatest Vocal Performance for me was on their Double Album : "Still Life".
Check out the Song: The Eleventh Hour from that Album.
You will also find it here on UA-cam.
Unbelievable good!
Hope, you like it.
Keep up your great work.
Can't wait for your next reaction videos.👍👍
Thank you so much for these very kind comments :)
I really enjoyed discovering Mark Zonder
@@AndrewRooneyDrums
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Don't mention it!
You're welcome! ❤️
It's always a great pleasure watching these Reaction Videos.
Because sometimes I learn a lot by watching these Videos.
That's exactly is the main reason why I love that so much.
Even, when there is such a nice Guy like you reacting on Music Videos I've watched a thousand times or more.
Sometimes I realize I didn't payed enough attention on Videos I love to watch.
And right than I'm learning something completely new.
It's also a great pleasure watching People's reaction on Music I've listen to for so many Years.
And having exactly the same reaction I had so many years before.
This always is something like a Time Machine to me, ya know...
I just love it to see people enjoying the same Music I falled in love with many many years ago.
And finally I'm feeling young again.
I'm very thankful for that.
Because this is so very special to me.
Many Thanks again!❤️
Seema like Music is a never ending Journey.
I love great Drumming.
As much as I love great Vocals.
Fates Warning has that.
Their Live Shows they played here in Germany always was something very special.
I can't tell you...
They always delivered.
Favourite Live Band?
Definitely yes.
So finally...
Get your copy of : A Pleasant Shade of Grey (called: APSoG).
The perfect Album to get in touch with them.
Or with their Live Album Still Life.
It's an Double Album.
APSoG - the entire Show on disc 1.
And on disc 2 a very best of Fates Warning - also Live.
The main reason for that is, everyone in Fates Warning was on their highest peak of Creativity and on their highest level musically.
But it would also be great to ask Mark himself what to do next.❤️
That would be amazing!❤️
Wouldn't it?
Just an Idea... ^^
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I forgot to mention my ranking... ^^
1.) Fates Warning - APSoG
2.) Fates Warning - FWX
3.) Fates Warning - Disconnected
4.) Fates Warning - Still Life
5.) Fates Warning - Parallels
6.) Fates Warning - Inside Out
7.) Fates Warning - No Exit
8.) Fates Warning - Perfect Symmetry
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Awesome video! Love the t-shirt
Love your channel mate, already seen couple dozens vids, you re doing a great job! Zonder is on my top 5 list.. I'd really like to see you doing a video with APSOG part 5 from fates warning as many things are going on there on his drum cam! Or anything from Warlord period. Cheers!
I ask asked Mark on his yt channel. That electronic devices are called 'Spike' drum triggers
FW wouldn't be the same without Mark....... I first heard him play on this EP called "Deliver Us" by band named Warlord...... man, I wore the shit out of that record :D:D
Fates Warning are one of the top prog metal bands !
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The great stuff on Mark Zonder is, one could already hear back in '83 when he was with Warlord how exceptional his drumming is. Totally different from what regular metal drummers played back then. e.g. 'Aliens'. Hoglan, Zonder, Jarzombek - the top of the cream.
Mark Zonder recently came out with an album with his new band: A-Z . You can find some videos on UA-cam...
I love the fact that Mark Zonder looks like you, with hair! HAHAHAHA
A great album to check out is A Pleasant Shade of Grey from Fates Warning
THANKS!
Mark fuckin Zonder!!!! The magnificent artist of drums.
Mark Zonder, one of my favourite drummers, not only when it comes to Porgressive Metal durmmers. I am a guitar player, but I spent a lot of time listenting to both Part of the Machine and Parallels album focusing only on the drumms, it’s always a joyful experience. When DT came out I couldn’t swallow Mike Portnoy. It was inevitable to compare them. While Portnoy is extremely proficient in tehcnicallity, Zonder maybe not as much, but over all he has a style of his own that is very distibgushible that comunicates a lot about steadiness, fluidity and melody, with a lot of elegance. He is a real artist, and very underrated. Whenever I listen to him I cant evite thinking about Jaki Liebezeit
Mark also has a fondness for 13" hi hats which is what he's using here.
Andrew check his Warlord era as well, you might find some intresting drum grooves and there as well. Mark is a one of a kind drummer in mixing rythms and electronics!
Fates Warning is just about the most under rated metal band. He almost sounds like he's so off beat at times that it makes sense. Dudes amazing.
Partial to “The eleventh hour”, but Zonder anything is wonderful 👍🏻
Awesome Ken! 🥁🙌
Andrew, those other things Mark was hitting were electronic drum triggers for samples, if you listen to the studio recording you can hear them more clearly, there are three of them on his kit, the on front and centre, one down just under the ride, and a third further back on the right. He was very ahead of his time incorporating samples to enhance the music.
Zonder much like Peart did, has the ability to make an excellent song even better than it would be, with his magical drum parts.
Go watch Portnoy or Jarzombek play this song with Fates and you'll see and hear just how special Zonder is.
One of the best.
Check out Monument from Mark Zonder from Fates Warning. My favorite drum song.
Ooohhhh finally!! GREAT drummer!!
Yup! Love this
Hey baldie now u find Zonder. Welcome to the party Pal !!!
Good to be here!
Mark Zonder is one of the few drummers I have ever heard that: 1.) makes the drums sounds like its own instrument in a musical arrangement (no disrespect to all the drummers out there) by adding unique voicing and texture, rather than "just" keeping time by holding the bottom down along with the bass; and 2) I listen to specifically to specifically because the drum parts are so interesting when he plays. I am life long Fates fan and can't wait for Mark and Ray (the vocalist you hear performing on the video) to reconnect for the A-Z project. Thanks for doing this. Stopped by on accident and now will be back... Cheers! :) PS I think those are drum triggers he's using. Not rim shots. But I could be wrong...
Thanks for the input and info!
Zonder (as John Macaluso and Bobby Jarzombek) had to be on the list for Dream Theater drummer when MP left.
It's called Ray...and if I'm not mistaken I think James Labrie contributed vocals to the final mix....you'd probably have to ask Mark....just saying...
If no one ever mentioned it, you asked what he's hitting(like rims) to make some odd sounds, if I'm not mistaken those are drum trigger pads. They're oddly shaped, but they don't seem to get iin the way.
Check Mark with Warlord ... So powerful and majestic playing
Favorite drummer, also listen APSOG part 5 ( A plesant shade of grey part 5)
Thanks for sharing such an Amazing drummer!! Sometimes the patterns hurt the brain. Such as Arena & Apsog Part 5~ Fates Warning!! Also his solo Slavior. Too bad it was short lived. May the band find another singer.
Love it Marcel
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Right!? One of my my plethora of influences besides Clive Burr, Scott Rockenfield, Micheal Shrieve, Gerry Gaskill, Terry Bozzio, Neil Peart , Mike Portnoy and Mike Mangini. If you are looking for the altter ego. It's under Marcel Lightning on Patreon. I don't think it's anything special but, some think otherwise. As was told that there many subdivisions in the patterns and hard to follow the ball. So to speak. Thank again.
Mark Zonder is one of the most creative drummers out there, IMO. The way he utilizes the kit, and the insane patterns he comes up with (check out songs like 'One' from Fates Warning. It's crazy).
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It's appropriate that Bobby Jarzombek is now their drummer. He's an equally creative player, and one of the few players out there who I think could actually reproduce Zonder's parts faithfully.
Saw them in Qc with Dream Theater , it was just an amazing concert!
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He has a lot of electronic pads on the kit, so those are not rim clicks, they are tom sounds from a drum module
Right on!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums it's super cool, you can hear it much better on the albums obviously, but he'll have some electronic cymbal sounds as well. Super cool and interesting
Love Zonder since No Exit way back in 87/88 .. great drama!!
He didn't play on No Exit. That was Steve Zimmerman. The first record Mark recorded with Fates was Perfect Symmetry.
@@kevinmadden3396 My bad, yup, Zimmerman was the drummer.
Zonder kills it here but Alder is having a really bad night.
There's LP Spike trigger pads in the setup. (Regarding at 3:13)
Wow . . .
How did I miss this one!? I'm a HUGE Fates Warning fan and have seen them on 5 tours. They are a band sadly, as you see on your views and comments count, they are not very well known except to their dedicated International fans. Part of the reason for that is, they were a band that went through 4 phases of styles; started with an early Heavy Metal sound, that was influenced with a little Thrash and Iron Maiden. Their vocalist at that time was "John Arch" who at 1st sounded a lot like Bruce Dickenson, but by his last album (their 3rd effort; "Awaken the Guardian" 1986), he found his own VERY unique sound and timbre, and the album is considered a Classic. The next album "No Exit" (1988) went in a Thrash direction, but was very "Progressive", they were becoming a genre that didn't have a name yet. And "Ray Alder" became their current and longest running vocalist.
Then came "Perfect Symmetry" (1989), their original drummer Steve Zimmerman left, and Mark Zonder took over duties. His odd-meter angular style pushed FW into a new direction, and solidified the band as the Co-Fathers of *Prog Metal* with Queensrÿche being the 1st (Andrew . . . "Hair Metal"??? Blasphemy! :P). Its a shame that people didn't take to them like QR, or many years later "Dream Theater", but FW really never followed a formula, just about each album sounded different than the one before. They were never afraid to experiment, so different era's of sound, lost and attracted new fans . . . again, they didn't follow trends so, many didn't know what to make of them. But they created new sounds for Metal and Prog Metal, that possibly inspired future bands with a variety of melancholic, complex, melodic, darker and lighter, atypical moods and shapes.
Mark created 6 albums with Fates (to 2005), and it was sad to lose him, as he went on to do other projects. Another unfortunate factor that there are not very many good quality shots of him playing Live with FW (just the usual live shots on 2 tour vids) :(.
The last 3 albums feature "Bobby Jarzombek" on drums, an excellent drummer, but very different than Mark (as Bobby has played with a few different type Metal bands, and apparently is on tour with George Straight of all people!). You may want to try the Fates Warning "Bass & Drum play-through video" for "White Flag", and see his odd "Splash" set-up. Talk about in the pocket with the bassist (Joey Vera of Armored Saint, who has been the FW bassist since 1996)!
Zonder also played on 2 tracks on the sister-Fates Warning band "Arch/Matheos" 2nd album, "Winter Ethereal" (and Bobby played on both their debut and 2nd album).
Andrew, I could go on and on about FW, but I'll stop here, but another suggestion for Zonder is his play-through video for the band "Slavior" and the track "Another Planet" . . . just watch ;). And I'd add a Fates Warning Playlist I created of their history, but there has been a lot of spamming, so Yt's algorithm isn't allowing Links, but I'll give it a go below as a reply.
- Thank you for your explanations of what Zonder does, and discovering a band that I HOPE has made new fans \m/.
_"Very often fans and critics credit Dream Theater for creating a whole new genre of progressive metal music in the late '80s/early '90s, [...] but the truth is Fates Warning were doing it years before us."_
- *Mike Portnoy*
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Well lets see if this works . . .
*Fates Warning: Fathers of Prog Metal / Part I of II*
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(Description can be found in the playlist page)
Hope you enjoy Andrew :).
Awaken The Guardian was Steve Zimmerman on drums. Another insane player.
@@Sickdrummermagazine - Yes, I mentioned that he left before the album Perfect Symmetry :). Plays in a unorthodox way, almost like he's throwing his arms at the drums and cymbals. Does a great job during the Awaken the Guardian Anniversary gigs too!
He became from warlord a heavy band from 80's