Ideas for future Analyzing Evil videos Analyzing Evil; Thrull From the last kids on earth Analyzing Evil; Odin from god of war Analyzing Evil; Dormammu From marvel comics Analyzing Evil; Chief Kakuzawa From Elfenlied
This is an episode I've been waiting for. Fun fact, Lena Headey got the role due to Peter Dinklage's suggestion since the two are very good friends in real life and were friends before the show.
I always found Cersei interesting. She is a terrible person but one of the most memorable villain's. Lena Headey did a phenomenal job in bringing her character to life
she isn't the worst villain, she did some pretty bad things but it was mainly to take revenge on those who hurted her. She never reached the levels of Ramsay or Dany who was a war criminal even before the events of King's landing. Others in show plotted and caused all the troubles, Littlefinger and Olenna for example. Ned Stark was ready to believe Lysa, but he must have heard that the woman was crazy, still breastfeeding her son at 10 years. The same Ned had no issues in executing deserters without checking why just on face value. Cersei and the Lannisters had to defend themselves against all those enemies. Even if she was killed early on, Dany would have brought war to the 7 kingdoms. It was Robert who picked war with drogo not Cersei. Cersei made mistakes, but she was also a victim of others as well, she was sold into an abusive marriage. She was cruel to Tyrion, unjustly cruel, but he did not help in trying to have a decent relationship, him selling her daughter into marriage only served to make her look at him as an enemy. Him killing Tywin sealed that, even in view she believed he killed her son. Even Jaime turned against him.
You said as if she didn’t get those things from Tywin. Tywin committed genocide against the Reynes, Tarbecks, Targaryens, Martells, Tully and Starks because he felt spiteful that they would tarnish his legacy. He is that petty. And let’s not start at how he abused Tyrion.
She was amazing in that part. I hated her more than any other character in anything except Schillinger in Oz. Every moment that Cersei suffered was as good as a goal for my favourite football team. It’s just a shame that her death in the show was nowhere near brutal enough. They went for the romantic, dignified ending for her when it should’ve been worse than Oberyn’s demise.
Cersei chapters are great. She's always drunk and so misses everything going on right in front of her, while constantly praising herself for being a genius.
The Cersei chapters show just what an idiot she actually is. The fact that the master of ships was able to abscond with the entire Royal Navy, is just one example of her incompetence.
The thing is; it's strongly implied that Cersei killed her childhood friend Melara after they received Maggy's prophecy. So Cersei made Melara's prophecy come true, just like she does with hers
That's how prophecy is portrayed in this series/books. Poeple bring their own faith but the prophecies allways fulfill themselves with the popele working as the monkey- paw type consequencebringer.
To put it in the words of her lord father, Tywin Lannister: “I don’t distrust you because you’re a woman; I distrust you because you’re not as smart as you think you are.” And this was absolutely true. Tywin listened and negotiated with Olena Tyrell because she knew how to play the game. In the show, he showed respect towards Arya, because she was incredibly clever and showed she was smarter than some of his own war council. It’s sad to think that Cersei had all of Tywins pride, yet none of his foresight, which is what ended up dooming House Lannister. If she had at least one child with Robert Baratheon, people wouldn’t have looked in to her bastards with Jaime. If she had taught Joffrey how to be a decent person, they could’ve spared Ned Stark and averted a full blown war. If she hadn’t been so quick to accuse Tyrion of Joffrey’s murder, and actually took time to listen to Tyrion and have people look deeper in to it, not only would she have gotten rid of the Tyrell’s like she wanted, but her father would still be alive to guide Tommen as king. And if she wasn’t so quick to arm a group of religious zealots, she wouldn’t have become their prisoner. Joffrey and Ramsey’s sadism is what made them so detestable, but Cersei was so detestable because she was a vain fool who only thought about what she wanted, and never about the consequences of her actions. That’s why I never held any sympathy for her. She is the very definition of pride cometh before the fall…
Joffrey had a "Father" who preferred going after whores than being a father and a guide, Blaming Cersei for Joffrey is gross. Myrcella and Tommen are decent kids, so she did a good job raising the kids alone. Only dying Robert realizes he should have passed time with his son. No wonder Myrcella was happy to find out Jaime was her father. Robert Baratheon was abusive to Cersei he used to rape her in the early days, She was sold into the marriage by her father against her will. Unlike Dany she did not give into pleasing sexually her rapist. Cersei and Jaime got back at their father and Robert(who used to insult Cersei infront of Jaime) by having their own children. Yes, she was in an unnatural relationship, but the irony of all, hers and Jaime's relationship is the one that survives the series from the beginning to the end, and the one that feels sincere despite at times being toxic. You wanted her to give a child to her rapist, a man she was forced into marriage, to avoid people looking into her children's parentage? seriously? Her secret was safe for many years and would have been, if Ned Stark was not that stupid to believe that the Lannisters killed John Arryn. He decided to believe his sister-in-law who breastfed her ten year old son!! Ned was a hypocrite he hid Jon's parentage from his friend Robert but was ready to spill the beans with Cersei's children. Tyrion had already threatened her and had already took away her daughter whom he sold into a political marriage reminding her of her own horrible experience. Joffrey pointing at him strengthened her conviction that he was guilty. Also Tyrion murdering her father put a seal to that. Even Jaime came to believe that. Olenna poisoned joffrey with Tywin around. She wanted to control the 7 kingdoms through her niece, No Tywin would have not guided Tommen, he couldn't even control his own children, nor noticed what happened under his nose. Jaime and Cersei had been lovers since their teens. Tommen was under the sexual spell of his wife, he was so weak that he was ready to sell his own mother. Tywin was not invincible he couldn't free his own son from being a captive. Also if Tywin did not die, he would have come into conflict over Tommen with Jaime, who already made it clear that he would see that his son would be ok. Also you people point out at Cersei's faults forgetting Jaime's, He started all the mayhem by throwing Bran out of a window, he starts a brawl with Ned, escapes to his father, leaving his twin fending off their enemies. Jaime has no problem in killing his own cousin, after his so called redemption he was ready to kill all sparrows, to exterminate all people in Riverrun, to catapult a baby boy into a castle, poisoning Olenna, vowed to retake everything that was of the Lannisters among others. Not to mention the other characters, Stannis who sacrificed his own daughter for power? Robert who sent assassins to kill the Targaryen girl? Tywin who orchestrated the starks wedding massacre? Daenerys who watched her brother being gruesome murdered without trying to save him? or the prisoners of war she executed in a horrible manner? Yeah but only Cersei was cruel to her brother! Cersei taking revenge on Ellaria was cruel, but Sansa with Ramsay was justice? Cersei made mistakes but was often the victim of the plotting of others, she took revenge sadistically against those who hurted, all that made her into a stern dour heartless person, but she was an amateur compared to other characters. Not last Daenerys who was a war criminal who left a path of destruction behind her, that made Cersei an angel of mercy.
I think it’s interesting how much of an impact Robert had on Cersei in a negative way, at least in the books. It’s said that Cersei began to force herself on Taena Merryweather when she served as Tommen’s regent and she started to become fat due to her newfound alcoholism. To me, it seems like in spite of all the hatred Cersei had towards Robert for how he treated her during his time as king, she had become exactly like him when she sat the Iron Throne, and this truly embodies her hypocrisy
While I am sure what Robert did to her may have been unfair, it can be hard to blame him as I am sure he understood what kind of person she was and what she was capable of. This is why, depsite him admitting that slapping her after her diabolical torment towards an injured Ned Stark was not a kingly thing to do, it still felt satisfying because she was being a huge bitch there.
Robert was nothing like Cercei, though. Robert was a warrior who had no idea what a king should be like but he recognised this, hence why he gave most of the control away to his small council. Cercei on the other hand wanted to be the small council all by herself and really had no sympathy for the common folk of the 7 Kingdoms. Also, while reading the book where Robert is alive, I didn’t get the impression that he really knew how evil Cercei truly was or could be. He more so viewed her as a difficult woman he couldn’t bend to do his bidding. It’s also important to note that Robert never loved Cercei and he was still in love with Ned’s dead sister.
@@sudowtf On our wedding night . When he drunk, stinking of wine. Did what he did what little he could do. He whispered in my ear, ..*Lyanna". Here I am a living girl and her a corpse. He still loves her more than me.
About the “valonqar”: Though they’re twins, it’s said that Cersei was technically born first. Because of that technicality, everyone suspects that it is not Tyrion who will kill her, but Jamie.
@@sandeman1776 If I recall correctly, that only applies to the word “Prince,” which is why people in the book and IRL think the prophecy could apply to Daenerys.
GRRM's writing isn't exactly secretive. If usually the most obvious theory, because he does set up every itty-bitty, tiny detail. When I first started reading the books, I had seen R+L=J and had no idea what it was... until I read one of Ned's early POV chapters in Book 1 (he remembers finding Lyanna in a room smelling of blood and roses) and then it clicked asap what R+L=J meant..not much of a mystery there :D Also, I might be wrong, but when it comes to the valonqar prophecy, I think it was made before Tyrion was born, sooo...
Jaime did kill her. If they'd of moved 5 feet none of the bricks and concrete would've touched them. Remember Tyrion finding their bodies. Remember the memes? He drug her down there. Lol.
'The only thing worse than a fool, Is a fool who thinks them self wise.' That is the main thought I had in my head whenever I saw Cersei Lannister. Tywin was correct as much as I hate agreeing with him when he said 'I don't trust you because you're not a smart as you think you are'.
I love your video, but I disagree with you on one thing. Cersei wasn't born hateful or selfish: she learned it from Tywin. Daughters often try as hard as possible to emulate their father's philosophy, making them far more like their father on a personality level than a son would (think Jinx from Arcane, The Prince from Bullet Train). Tywin is cruel to Tyrion and a narcissistic prick who also never forgets a slight, real or imagine (just ask Tyrion), only loves himself (he only loved Joanna, his cousin because she reminded him of himself), and hates women for making him weak (which is why he whips Alayaya in the books after raping her). She is just like him. The only difference is he understands what keeps him in power, and she doesn't.
Correction: Cersei's belief in the prophecy wasn't confirmed by the death of her childhood friend Melara, because she's the one who pushed her into the well Also Cersei didn't kill Jon Arryn, Lysa and Littlefinger did
We need to wait for the next novel (assuming it ever happens) or two to do that. Littlefinger in the show is far less intimidating and villainous as he is in the books. He should redo this video for Winds of Winter (along with Euron), but I don’t think we’ve seen Littlefinger at his worst in the books, and he won’t go down crying as he did in the show.
@@Captain_Insano_nomercyno id argue that she is quite like him even in that sense and even if you think tywin is smarter, it’s not by a lot. he sabotages himself much more than many fans like to admit. they’re about equally smart, cersei is just much more paranoid and impulsive.
Cersei may be a monster but I would be lying if I said the destruction of the Sept of Baelor isnt one of the most satisfying moments in all of television
So many unbeliavble things happen later in the show, either giving Cersei too much credit for her so-called "cleverness", by giving her these victories that should not have been achieved so quickly because D&D didn't know how to incorporate Euron Greyjoy's forces without conveniently teleporting them across the continent, or so little to do, except stare outside walls.
Cersei is one of those characters that can never be happy, they can acheive anything, and always are the miserable and wanting, just as hateful as at her lowest point as at her highest point.
Ceresi evil comes from the fact that she such a miserable character , Lena Heady never genuinely smiled through the entire 8 seasons , that what i found so brilliant about her performance
This isn’t true. She smiles genuinely multiple times. She smiles the first couple episodes of season 1, for example when she and the king are making fun KD their marriage. They joke that it is healthy and ideal. She laughs legit there, don’t spread lies
Well she does admit to Tyroin at one point that she isn't happy at all. That if it weren't for her children, she would have deleted herself a long time ago.
Craster, Walder Frey and Roose Bolton are far more worthy of the audience's hatred. Besides, at least Cersei was somewhat of an aesthetic relief🍷definitely not the case for the other three.
While those characters are definitely WAY more irredeemable, Cersei is still of one the most hatable characters in the story because we got to know her personally.
@@kiravampira1456 I'd put Erron Grayjoy (sorry if I misspelled his name) above Roose Bolton. Roose is cruel and definitely irredeemable but he only acts pragmatically. Like Tywin. He doesn't torture and betray people for fun like his son or Joffery. Joffery is definitely my most hated character though, the little shit. Edit: I mean the Erron Grayjoy from the books by the way. The show didn't really protray him well. He's an absolute menace to society trying to revive a dead God or something!
I agree! While Joffrey, Ramsey, Roose, Walder, Tywin, etc. are all scumbags you despise, there was something about Cersei that made her more hateful because she brought it to a whole other level! She is a monster who will blame everyone else for whatever problems happen that greatly affect her, and anyone who refuses to kiss her ass is her enemy!
@demonwolf570 Thought so, since Euron didn't do much in the show, yet I've heard that he's pure evil in the books. I was just about to watch this UA-camr's video about him (mostly about his book version). And yes, out of all the Game of Thrones characters, Joffrey is by far the most deserving of hatred.
If Tyrion continues down a dark path in the books (assuming at least TWoW will eventually come out) we could get an Analyzing Evil for every major Lannister except Jaime.
Regarding Cersei and prophesy, plus based on what you’ve said throughout this video, I’m reminded of this quote from the Norns of God of War: Ragnarok. “There is no grand design. No script. Only the choices you make. That your choices are so predictable merely make us seem prescient.” It makes me think that Maggy likely could tell instantly what kind of person Cersei was the second she demanded her fortune read. As for her friend, she made the prediction of her death guessing just what kind of girl Cersei was and what she would do for what she believed belonged to her.
Almost every single bad decision she made came around to bite her in the rear. Either over time or at once--individually or in groups. Karma was constantly clawing at her in flux yet despite it all she still kept making the same mistakes. It wasn't JUST how bad of a person she was, it was the fact that she was an absolute fool. Yeah, she didn't get some big flashy death scene like other characters did but she suffered none the less.
You’ve covered almost all the evil characters in Game of Thrones. The only ones left I can think of is Lord Peter Baelish, , Roose Bolton, Walder Frey, Janos Slynt, and Alliser Throne. Too bad you can never analyze The Night King. When House of the Dragon is over, you should analyze Alicent Hightower.
Fun fact: Cersei was based on Margaret of Anjou. Wife of Henry VI of england and a prominent figure of the wars of the roses. And just like Margaret lost everything: The throne, her husband and son. I'm sure that will also be the fate of cersei in yhe books
I understand that from certain parameters we can all feel for Cersei, but and I’m speaking a primarily a book reader, Cersei Lannister is one of the most appalling, disgusting, murderous, evil spinters I’ve ever read in fantasy literature. And yes the misogyny in Westeros is horrible, and yes having Tywin Lannister as your father doesn’t improve your chances of being a healthy adult, but the big asterisk here is that Cersei isn’t mad about the misogyny or cruelty that women suffer in Westeros, she’s only mad because she’s not the one inflicting on others by her own hand. One only has to guess at Cersei’s reaction to the news of Elia Martels brutal murder, and it doesn’t take a genius to imagine Cersei Lannister laughing herself breathless at the thought at what The Mountain did to Elia. That’s what Cersei Lannister is deep down, a monster.
Same! I never understood how people could hate the High Sparrow after that dude humbled her ass so badly! I cheered when I first read it in the book. She was so awful. Never understood how anybody liked her
I also don't get it when people say that Robert treated her badly... She was the type of person that is undeserving of life... And Robert merely cheated on her. Actions are different depending on who suffers from them. Cersei deserved much worse and Robert did not care about hurting her, not simply because he is a bad man who doesn't care about his wife... But because he knows what his wife is. And it is a damn tragedy that Robert didn't beat her or have her meet with an accident in all those years.
She probably felt some satisfaction at Elia (the woman who married Rhaegar in place if her) got a brutal death just because she's jealous. I can't put into words just how much I hate Cersei.
I'm sure that Tyrion wouldn't have killed his and Cersei's mother if he had any say in the matter, but he didn't, he was being BORN and so couldn't help the fact that she ended up dying!
The reason why Tyrion is hated is not just because his mother’s death. It’s also the nerve of him being born a dwarf also. Tyrion being a dwarf reflected badly on Tywin and Cersei’s image of superior Lannisters. If he were average sized, they would have resented him, but not violently hate him.
"Now Cersei's relationship with her brother, while taboo, isn't something that's necessarily good nor evil [...] but if two consenting adults decide to do this [incest], well then Love Is Love and it is what it is." Uhhh... *BASED alert* ?? The "only" ethical problem with their relationship is the fact that they procreated. Considering their brother was born a dwarf, I think it's fair to say that the level of inbreeding in their blood was high enough for the odds of them not producing a disabled kid to be unfavorable.
@@jamescoughlan7175 Hmm, well they're twins! I feel like the power dynamics amongst family members (but really everyone towards each other) is determined by the ages of the people involved. Cersei had power over Jamie as a lover, not really as a 'sister' traditionally speaking. If bro is too horny to realize whats going on, that's on him.
@@jamescoughlan7175I don’t think that necessarily had anything to do with them being siblings though. Jaime was easily manipulated and still would have been whether she was younger, older, or not even his relative.
When Game of Thrones was at its peak of popularity a friend of mine asked me: Who do you think is the best villain of the show Joffrey or Ramsay? My answer was Cersey and even though he laugh and dismissed my opinion I dont regret it, Lena Headey facial expressions are as cold as ice and even when the character is trying to act nice and sweet she has a vibe of: "You ere nothing but a bug to my eyes and I will squash you sooner or later" what an actress what a villain and what a video thanks Vile
Super appreciative of what you do. Thank you so much. You've turn me on to media, books, and genres I never would of thought. You've enriched my mind and expanded my knowledge. Thanks for sharing unabashedly.
9:55 not to mention that the only reason Aerys accepted Jaime as king’s guard was to spite Tywin by taking away his heir. So he was being used by multiple parties
One thing thing I find really interesting is that Cersei has essentially the same character flaw as Ned just manifesting in completely different ways. They both think that the everyone will do the something they would do if they were in that situation. Ned believes Little Finger will help him not because Ned is simplify stupid but the fact that Little Finger loves Cat so he will help her husband because that is what Ned would do. It does not occur to Ned that maybe Little Finger would seek to use this to seek power and remove Ned so he can marry Cat. Because of this Ned walks into a trap and dies for his mistake. Cersei is the same, seeing what she would do in everyone, expect she is a horrible person, so she thinks that everyone seeks to accumulate power and will overtake her the moment they get the opportunity because that is what she would do. When dealing with the Tyrells a family who are clearly looking to gain power and are now the only rivals to house Lannister (For Storm of Swords and Feast of Crows at least) , Cersei does not think there can be any real peace or coexistence so she plans to remove them breaking part the most important alliance her family has. She seeks out people like the high sparrow and other chorines that she thinks she can control instead of compete and loyal individuals because in her mind there are no loyal people just people like her that will grab as much power as they can. So when the high sparrow turns on her no one comes to help her and she essentially has lost all her supporters, expect Qyburn, even her brother and she is left in this state of powerlessness at least until Winds of Winter or blowing up the Great Sept in the show. For both of them seeing there refection in the intentions of those around them led to their downfall. Ned story is over essentially and I hope if the main books are concluded this character flaw in Cersei proves to be part of her final downfall.
Always love your videos, but a quick fact check for you. It wasn't Cersei who had Jon Arryn killed, it was Littlefinger. He then planted evidence to the Starks to make it look like the Lannisters did it. While they surely would've given the chance all things considered, you can't credit Cersei for this on that technicality.
As ever, in my silly and soletary quest to get a look over of Darkstalker from this channel i declare that it is now the 10th upload of this little game with myself.
i want too start off by saying i love your vids. im a long time watcher and have been suggesting this for a long time aswell. please, i beg of you, do the paddys pub gang from always sunny. they are by far the worst people in any sitcome aside from maybe cartman from south park. it would be an interesting video too see come to life so for me, make it happen. love you ❤
@username.exenotfound2943 season 6 was 80% great imo and 7 outside episode 6 was underrated as well. Season 5 is weak overall, but I actually LIKE the high sparrow and s5 e 3, 4, 8, 9, 10 are great or entertaining.
She copied Tywin's arrogance but was never allowed to go through male studies, even though she wanted to. Tywin denied her this. So he actually distrusted her from the beginning, because of her gender, and now he blames her lack of insight. Classic Tywin.
@@nouhorni3229 no, Cercei had access to much of the same material Jaime did, she'd often impersonate him when they were younger and she would force the servants or convince Jaime to share information with her. No, Cercei's failings are her own. She's arrogant but lacks ability. Her greatest 'successes' were always arranged by others and everything she's run, she's run into the ground because she's a self centered narcissist who utterly lacks the ability for self analysis to grow and improve.
@@lavinder11 it doesn't really matter since Cercei was at heart a narcissist with psychopathy. She's utterly incapable of realizing she's wrong and she lacks impulse control. You could give her all the classes on ruling in the world and she'd still run it into the ground because she's psychologically incapable of the very thing effective ruling requires-responsibility.
One thing I picked up on was how Cersei didn't take Tywins advice: "Any man who says "I am the king" is no true king" She then continues to hold onto herself as the queen when she was queen dowager, and always says "I am the queen" in the books. She believed herself as an expert in the game, but in reality she was very poor. Tyrion is the only Lannister with the brain of Tywin, and that is very difficult for her to admit which fuels her hatred for him
Analyzing evil: Peter "littlefinger" Bealish, Roose Bolton(most book version), Varys(book), Bloodraven(book) and Tyrion, Arya and Bran as good potential for becoming three of them. Gosh ASOIAF as so mush great villain!!!
book cersei is my favourite literary character and show cersei is my favourite show character ever. she's irredeemable, cruel for the sake of cruelty, narcissistic but complex and somewhat sympathetic at the same time. what she had gone through doesn't justify her actions, it makes them more understandable. she's not perfect nor she's any good, but still you can feel her pain and emotions so strongly. she also represents so many things - sexism from both ends, because she's a victim and a villian when it comes to discriminating women. cersei's writing is rich and compelling, she's full of contradictions and that's what makes me love her so much
You do know she's had Robert's bastard infants killed right? Not only that but infront of their own mother. Also, this petty jealousy of the opposite gender has always been just that. There comes a point when someone just isn't sympathetic not only because of what they've done and who they are but because the "pain" she's been through wasn't really all that bad. Not when she was born into one of the most desirable and privileged house arguably in the whole world... I find it concerning some people claim to "love" this woman...🫤 I think if someone does love a person like this it's either because they don't see them for what they are, or even worse they do and see their own reflection and relate a great deal to them. Big red flag either way.
Day 34 of asking you to please make a video analyzing leo kasper/daniel lamb/the project from the game manhunt 2. Also, great video, my man, keep up the good work!
@Force_Of_Habit if you take a look at the manhunt 2 website, you can see documents about the expirements the project did in the game and you can see therapy sessions for both leo and danny you can find on youtube as well and much more all this adds a lot of complexity to their characters
Another great one Vile! Again I think one that would be amazing to do would have to be Nina Meyers from "24" and Jenny Schecter from "The L Word." Both of whom have tons of back story to make a rich and detailed video.
Her main fault is that she was entirely focused on playing the game without regard for anything else. Everyone else worried about the Night King, and she only cared that her foes would destroy each other.
Cersei and Catelyn Stark both had the same major flaw: They couldn’t see past their own desires. Cersei couldn’t see past her pettiness, cruelty and hatred for being born a woman and her desire to rule in her own name after Tywins death, her desire to murder Tyrion, her desire to bed Jaime simply because in her own narcissistic mind she’s bedding herself and feels whole when she does, with no regard for the consequences and desire to rid herself of the Tyrells, all of which has brought House Lannister to ruin. Catelyn Stark couldn’t see past her children and desire to save them which is completely understandable but it drives her to make terrible decisions, arresting Tyrion for the perceived attempted murder of Bran which leads to Ned being crippled and ultimately imprisoned and executed (also not listening to what Ned told her to do the last time they spoke before she left KL). Freeing Jaime with the delusional idea that it would somehow lead to Sansa and Arya being returned, which greatly undermined Robb’s campaign tho Robb certainly made his own mistakes but losing Jaime as a prisoner freed Tywin to conspire the Red Wedding with the Freys and Boltons, no way does Tywin plan that if Jaime is still Robbs prisoner. Both Cersei and Catelyn greatly diminished the power of their Houses and nearly brought them to ruin but one is clearly more evil than the other
Oh shit perfect timing, for the past few weeks I've been binge watching a ton of ASOIAF theory and character videos and I've been thinking about the books quite a bit lately. I definitely need to do another reread soon, plus I bought book 1 for my sister so she can finally get into the series. Thanks for this one👌
In a weird way Cersei is kind of like Sandor Clegane. They might not have turned out they way they did in different circumstances. They're very much a product of their environment and the traumas they've suffered and had no healthy way to deal with.
been waiting for this video so long i went "finally!" at my computer in excitement when i saw it in my feed !! you should do a video on homelander from the boys! i know he's been analyzed 100x on this site but it would be cool to watch what you have to say about him :)
From someone who has a Lannister tattoo thank you for these lol. I mean I already pretty much know everything about the book and the show versions of these characters but always appreciate your evil psychology analysis of them anyways.
The prophecy is talking about Jamie, he’s the “Valonqar”. It’s expertly foreshadowed and ultimately does make sense as he is her younger brother as well. Tyrion would be too obvious. I feel Jamie’s redemption ends with him killing Cersei and maybe himself.
That is what I have always hoped was gonna happen, when show Jamie just randomly forgave Cersei and went back to her in the show I was so Disappointed. It was such a betrayel of his character which ignored all his grow5h and development.
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You're the Best vile! Never miss a video. Littlefinger please
Analyzing Evil: Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish
Ideas for future Analyzing Evil videos
Analyzing Evil; Thrull From the last kids on earth
Analyzing Evil; Odin from god of war
Analyzing Evil; Dormammu From marvel comics
Analyzing Evil; Chief Kakuzawa From Elfenlied
You should make a video on the movie Unfriended
Analyzing Evil: King Meruem
Lena Headey not winning a single Emmy for her portrayal as one of the greatest TV villains in history is still a crime to this day!
Do you know who the hell did win? Like Lena was a FORCE in GOT.
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Analysing Evil ep 190: the people who kept overlooking Lena Heady at the emmys
@@BrandonScott-mi5pzRamsay Bolton is arguably worse
That’s ridiculous I agree
This is an episode I've been waiting for. Fun fact, Lena Headey got the role due to Peter Dinklage's suggestion since the two are very good friends in real life and were friends before the show.
I wonder who they would've cast in her place had Lena not signed on. Charlize Theron, perhaps?
I love the fact that those two are actually good friends irl
Cersei is the living embodiment of the phrase "if I can't have it all, then nobody will."
“the nobody wiil”. Powerful words!
@@davidpumpkinsjr.5108 Also the definition of “it’s not toxic when I do it!”
I always found Cersei interesting. She is a terrible person but one of the most memorable villain's. Lena Headey did a phenomenal job in bringing her character to life
Writers did her wrong
She was great in the early seasons, but the writing really dragged her plot through the mud starting right after the Great Sept Explosion.
Book Cersei is elite villain. She's stupid but it's such a good read
she isn't the worst villain, she did some pretty bad things but it was mainly to take revenge on those who hurted her. She never reached the levels of Ramsay or Dany who was a war criminal even before the events of King's landing.
Others in show plotted and caused all the troubles, Littlefinger and Olenna for example. Ned Stark was ready to believe Lysa, but he must have heard that the woman was crazy, still breastfeeding her son at 10 years. The same Ned had no issues in executing deserters without checking why just on face value.
Cersei and the Lannisters had to defend themselves against all those enemies. Even if she was killed early on, Dany would have brought war to the 7 kingdoms. It was Robert who picked war with drogo not Cersei.
Cersei made mistakes, but she was also a victim of others as well, she was sold into an abusive marriage. She was cruel to Tyrion, unjustly cruel, but he did not help in trying to have a decent relationship, him selling her daughter into marriage only served to make her look at him as an enemy. Him killing Tywin sealed that, even in view she believed he killed her son. Even Jaime turned against him.
@@yepok5120 this is about the TV Series, the books are unfinished, she could end as a saint at the end or a demon.
Cersei is one of the most dangerous type of evil.
Petty, shortsighted, narcissistic, spoiled...
The exact type of evil that her father Tywin despised.
Ironically/poetically, that's also very close to how Tywin wrongfully interpreted Tyrion to be for most of his life
reminds me of the saying beauty is power
Power is power @@witchingbrew3
You said as if she didn’t get those things from Tywin.
Tywin committed genocide against the Reynes, Tarbecks, Targaryens, Martells, Tully and Starks because he felt spiteful that they would tarnish his legacy. He is that petty.
And let’s not start at how he abused Tyrion.
@@nont18411it's just an insurance policy.
Lena Headey played her perfectly; it was truly a love-to-hate performance. Also, thank you for making the video.
She really ate that role up and I'm forever grateful. Legit had me screaming at the screen.
She was amazing in that part. I hated her more than any other character in anything except Schillinger in Oz. Every moment that Cersei suffered was as good as a goal for my favourite football team. It’s just a shame that her death in the show was nowhere near brutal enough. They went for the romantic, dignified ending for her when it should’ve been worse than Oberyn’s demise.
Cersei chapters are great. She's always drunk and so misses everything going on right in front of her, while constantly praising herself for being a genius.
The Cersei chapters show just what an idiot she actually is. The fact that the master of ships was able to abscond with the entire Royal Navy, is just one example of her incompetence.
Her thinking Tyrion is literally in the walls always makes me die
Aurane Waters immediately stealing the fleet she paid for is so good.
@@christopherdarby1043the one she hired exclusively on the grounds of “he’s hot”
The thing is; it's strongly implied that Cersei killed her childhood friend Melara after they received Maggy's prophecy. So Cersei made Melara's prophecy come true, just like she does with hers
That's how prophecy is portrayed in this series/books. Poeple bring their own faith but the prophecies allways fulfill themselves with the popele working as the monkey- paw type consequencebringer.
it’s self fulfilling prophecy
Hey it’s been a while since I’ve read through the books. Where does it say Cersei killed Melara ? I’ve read the books twice and never caught that
The often overlooked aspect of Cerssei (especially in book) is her alcoholic spiraling.
She goes up then comes hammering down...
@@jcwoodman5285 she’s literally me fr fr
She also became fat, similar to Robert
she slowly becomes the female Robert Baratheon
@@DeathSeller-MK2 Worse, much worse in scale.
The way characters eat and drink is a great way of characterizing them and showing how they react to situations and crisis
To put it in the words of her lord father, Tywin Lannister: “I don’t distrust you because you’re a woman; I distrust you because you’re not as smart as you think you are.”
And this was absolutely true. Tywin listened and negotiated with Olena Tyrell because she knew how to play the game. In the show, he showed respect towards Arya, because she was incredibly clever and showed she was smarter than some of his own war council.
It’s sad to think that Cersei had all of Tywins pride, yet none of his foresight, which is what ended up dooming House Lannister. If she had at least one child with Robert Baratheon, people wouldn’t have looked in to her bastards with Jaime. If she had taught Joffrey how to be a decent person, they could’ve spared Ned Stark and averted a full blown war. If she hadn’t been so quick to accuse Tyrion of Joffrey’s murder, and actually took time to listen to Tyrion and have people look deeper in to it, not only would she have gotten rid of the Tyrell’s like she wanted, but her father would still be alive to guide Tommen as king. And if she wasn’t so quick to arm a group of religious zealots, she wouldn’t have become their prisoner.
Joffrey and Ramsey’s sadism is what made them so detestable, but Cersei was so detestable because she was a vain fool who only thought about what she wanted, and never about the consequences of her actions. That’s why I never held any sympathy for her. She is the very definition of pride cometh before the fall…
Joffrey had a "Father" who preferred going after whores than being a father and a guide, Blaming Cersei for Joffrey is gross. Myrcella and Tommen are decent kids, so she did a good job raising the kids alone. Only dying Robert realizes he should have passed time with his son. No wonder Myrcella was happy to find out Jaime was her father.
Robert Baratheon was abusive to Cersei he used to rape her in the early days, She was sold into the marriage by her father against her will. Unlike Dany she did not give into pleasing sexually her rapist.
Cersei and Jaime got back at their father and Robert(who used to insult Cersei infront of Jaime) by having their own children. Yes, she was in an unnatural relationship, but the irony of all, hers and Jaime's relationship is the one that survives the series from the beginning to the end, and the one that feels sincere despite at times being toxic. You wanted her to give a child to her rapist, a man she was forced into marriage, to avoid people looking into her children's parentage? seriously?
Her secret was safe for many years and would have been, if Ned Stark was not that stupid to believe that the Lannisters killed John Arryn. He decided to believe his sister-in-law who breastfed her ten year old son!! Ned was a hypocrite he hid Jon's parentage from his friend Robert but was ready to spill the beans with Cersei's children.
Tyrion had already threatened her and had already took away her daughter whom he sold into a political marriage reminding her of her own horrible experience. Joffrey pointing at him strengthened her conviction that he was guilty. Also Tyrion murdering her father put a seal to that. Even Jaime came to believe that.
Olenna poisoned joffrey with Tywin around. She wanted to control the 7 kingdoms through her niece, No Tywin would have not guided Tommen, he couldn't even control his own children, nor noticed what happened under his nose. Jaime and Cersei had been lovers since their teens. Tommen was under the sexual spell of his wife, he was so weak that he was ready to sell his own mother. Tywin was not invincible he couldn't free his own son from being a captive. Also if Tywin did not die, he would have come into conflict over Tommen with Jaime, who already made it clear that he would see that his son would be ok.
Also you people point out at Cersei's faults forgetting Jaime's, He started all the mayhem by throwing Bran out of a window, he starts a brawl with Ned, escapes to his father, leaving his twin fending off their enemies. Jaime has no problem in killing his own cousin, after his so called redemption he was ready to kill all sparrows, to exterminate all people in Riverrun, to catapult a baby boy into a castle, poisoning Olenna, vowed to retake everything that was of the Lannisters among others. Not to mention the other characters, Stannis who sacrificed his own daughter for power? Robert who sent assassins to kill the Targaryen girl? Tywin who orchestrated the starks wedding massacre? Daenerys who watched her brother being gruesome murdered without trying to save him? or the prisoners of war she executed in a horrible manner? Yeah but only Cersei was cruel to her brother! Cersei taking revenge on Ellaria was cruel, but Sansa with Ramsay was justice?
Cersei made mistakes but was often the victim of the plotting of others, she took revenge sadistically against those who hurted, all that made her into a stern dour heartless person, but she was an amateur compared to other characters. Not last Daenerys who was a war criminal who left a path of destruction behind her, that made Cersei an angel of mercy.
@@chrisgrech7992 How is it gross to blame one parent? She's as much to blame as Robert.
@@chrisgrech7992Damn, you definitely ate tf down with this
@@inferiorinferno8859Doesn't seem like you understand how ironic this is...
I think it’s interesting how much of an impact Robert had on Cersei in a negative way, at least in the books. It’s said that Cersei began to force herself on Taena Merryweather when she served as Tommen’s regent and she started to become fat due to her newfound alcoholism. To me, it seems like in spite of all the hatred Cersei had towards Robert for how he treated her during his time as king, she had become exactly like him when she sat the Iron Throne, and this truly embodies her hypocrisy
While I am sure what Robert did to her may have been unfair, it can be hard to blame him as I am sure he understood what kind of person she was and what she was capable of. This is why, depsite him admitting that slapping her after her diabolical torment towards an injured Ned Stark was not a kingly thing to do, it still felt satisfying because she was being a huge bitch there.
Robert was nothing like Cercei, though. Robert was a warrior who had no idea what a king should be like but he recognised this, hence why he gave most of the control away to his small council. Cercei on the other hand wanted to be the small council all by herself and really had no sympathy for the common folk of the 7 Kingdoms. Also, while reading the book where Robert is alive, I didn’t get the impression that he really knew how evil Cercei truly was or could be. He more so viewed her as a difficult woman he couldn’t bend to do his bidding.
It’s also important to note that Robert never loved Cercei and he was still in love with Ned’s dead sister.
she didn’t force herself on Taena, Taena was a willing participant
@@sudowtf
On our wedding night . When he drunk, stinking of wine. Did what he did what little he could do. He whispered in my ear, ..*Lyanna".
Here I am a living girl and her a corpse. He still loves her more than me.
About the “valonqar”: Though they’re twins, it’s said that Cersei was technically born first. Because of that technicality, everyone suspects that it is not Tyrion who will kill her, but Jamie.
Also, the valyrian language doesn't distinguish male and female, but I also wonder if it denotes singular or plural.
@@sandeman1776
If I recall correctly, that only applies to the word “Prince,” which is why people in the book and IRL think the prophecy could apply to Daenerys.
GRRM's writing isn't exactly secretive. If usually the most obvious theory, because he does set up every itty-bitty, tiny detail. When I first started reading the books, I had seen R+L=J and had no idea what it was... until I read one of Ned's early POV chapters in Book 1 (he remembers finding Lyanna in a room smelling of blood and roses) and then it clicked asap what R+L=J meant..not much of a mystery there :D Also, I might be wrong, but when it comes to the valonqar prophecy, I think it was made before Tyrion was born, sooo...
Jaime did kill her. If they'd of moved 5 feet none of the bricks and concrete would've touched them. Remember Tyrion finding their bodies. Remember the memes? He drug her down there. Lol.
@@26michaeluk I meant in the books. Season 8 does not exist.
Lena Headey was born to play Cersei. I’ve admired her ever since first seeing her in Gossip. Thank you for including Cersei on your channel. 👍🏻
Tywin summed it best: “You’re not as smart as you think you are”
Every day is a good day when Vile covers a ASOIAF villain
Lord Swoosh enough, let it end. 😂
'The only thing worse than a fool, Is a fool who thinks them self wise.' That is the main thought I had in my head whenever I saw Cersei Lannister. Tywin was correct as much as I hate agreeing with him when he said 'I don't trust you because you're not a smart as you think you are'.
I remember hearing the analogy that even if Cersei had been married to Rhaegar, she would still be second to Lyanna Stark
100%
Cersei would have viewed Lyanna as a threat to her position
Maybe not because rhaegar didnt really love lyanna he just wanted three heads of the dragon and elia became infertile after aegon
I love your video, but I disagree with you on one thing. Cersei wasn't born hateful or selfish: she learned it from Tywin. Daughters often try as hard as possible to emulate their father's philosophy, making them far more like their father on a personality level than a son would (think Jinx from Arcane, The Prince from Bullet Train). Tywin is cruel to Tyrion and a narcissistic prick who also never forgets a slight, real or imagine (just ask Tyrion), only loves himself (he only loved Joanna, his cousin because she reminded him of himself), and hates women for making him weak (which is why he whips Alayaya in the books after raping her). She is just like him. The only difference is he understands what keeps him in power, and she doesn't.
@@AJ-dt3pz I was about to say wtf are you talking about till I confused Tyrion with Tywin. Now I see your point completely.
Jinx isn't trying to emulate her father's philosophy. There are many times where she directly spells out trouble for Silco's plan...
Correction: Cersei's belief in the prophecy wasn't confirmed by the death of her childhood friend Melara, because she's the one who pushed her into the well
Also Cersei didn't kill Jon Arryn, Lysa and Littlefinger did
Shows how deep Baelish’s plan ran, if even fans of the story aren’t aware of the extent of his crimes!
To be fair, her pushing friend in the well could’ve made Cersei think Maggi the frogs words true. (Haven’t read the books, correct me if I’m wrong).
Analyzing Evil: Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish
Hey that's a good one. Maybe in time he will.
@@havoc6441 I hope he omits the Littlefinger from seasons 5 - onward though.
We need to wait for the next novel (assuming it ever happens) or two to do that. Littlefinger in the show is far less intimidating and villainous as he is in the books. He should redo this video for Winds of Winter (along with Euron), but I don’t think we’ve seen Littlefinger at his worst in the books, and he won’t go down crying as he did in the show.
Good one
Petyr did nothing wrong.
I can't look at her without feeling rage. Now that's a top tier actress.
"Who knows what will happen in the books?"
Not even George RR Martin, evidently.
Can’t wait for the Homelander episode
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Oh yes. That's going to be a good one. Now that season 4 is done airing, he has plenty of context to go off of.
@@iateyursandwichesHomelander is an exceptional villain. It'd be a crime not to make an episode on him.
"As Joffrey meets his untimely death" 😂 - oh, it was timely indeed 😂
that kid deserved more screen time ngl i wanted to see what he will be when he grows up
@@mohasn actor Jack Gleeson was really awesome, sad that he endured so much hate for his role :(
@@senkakulenovic856 yup that’s when you know he did stupidly good at his role but didn’t get enough credit so sad for him
Lena Headey winning 0 Emmys for her portrayal is criminal
It's scary and poetic that with Tywin and Cersei it's just one massive example of like father like daughter.
She was nowhere near as intelligent as he was though, in the book that is made very clear
@@Captain_Insano_nomercyno id argue that she is quite like him even in that sense and even if you think tywin is smarter, it’s not by a lot. he sabotages himself much more than many fans like to admit. they’re about equally smart, cersei is just much more paranoid and impulsive.
@ahmetyegenaga agree to disagree. His fault is pride and hubris, hers is many things but being dumb is a big one
@@ahmetyegenaga Case in point, his abuse of Tyrion. Properly his greatest self-sabotaging ever.
Cersei may be a monster but I would be lying if I said the destruction of the Sept of Baelor isnt one of the most satisfying moments in all of television
@@S.D.323 yeah Loras and Margaery death was so Great right ?
RIGHT 😅🤣 ?
@@notdeadjustyet8136 you relate to Book Cersei ? Dude 😔
True, but book Cersei’s walk of shame is far more satisfying.
If only it had any meaningful consequences or payoffs
@@warpedwhimsical D&D: "Best we can do is dick jokes. Take it or leave it!"
Analyzing Evil: Count Olaf from A Series of Unfortunate Events.
So many unbeliavble things happen later in the show, either giving Cersei too much credit for her so-called "cleverness", by giving her these victories that should not have been achieved so quickly because D&D didn't know how to incorporate Euron Greyjoy's forces without conveniently teleporting them across the continent, or so little to do, except stare outside walls.
We absolutely must acknowledge the best scene in the whole show. When olena tell Jamie it was her. Just pure perfection
Love is love is such a debauched way of thinking.
True. It's the kind of debauchery that encourages men to see pooholes as secks objects
Cersei is one of those characters that can never be happy, they can acheive anything, and always are the miserable and wanting, just as hateful as at her lowest point as at her highest point.
Ceresi evil comes from the fact that she such a miserable character , Lena Heady never genuinely smiled through the entire 8 seasons , that what i found so brilliant about her performance
This isn’t true. She smiles genuinely multiple times. She smiles the first couple episodes of season 1, for example when she and the king are making fun KD their marriage. They joke that it is healthy and ideal. She laughs legit there, don’t spread lies
@@danielbattle7620I don't think I agree that any of those times are very genuine or heartfelt.
@@danielbattle7620 you are confusing a fake smile with a genuine smile
@@redredrumxoRobert asks what’s holding the realm together and Cersei says “our marriage” then they both burst out laughing and smiling…
Well she does admit to Tyroin at one point that she isn't happy at all. That if it weren't for her children, she would have deleted herself a long time ago.
Dude, you should go with Littlefinger or Roose Bolton. They're two of my favorite villians in the series.
I second Littlefinger, one of my personal fav characters from ASoIaF
I think he has done both
Anytime Cersei was given any chance or mercy she had the person in question destroyed.
She gained the throne but lost everything she held close. All she had left in the end was the power she craved and was destroyed because of it.
I loved the scenes with her, always so intriguing and I can’t look away when she’s on screen. She was so evil it was very entertaining.
Probably the most hatable character in the series besides Joffrey and Ramsay Bolton, and the latter has the advantage of being extremely charismatic.
Craster, Walder Frey and Roose Bolton are far more worthy of the audience's hatred. Besides, at least Cersei was somewhat of an aesthetic relief🍷definitely not the case for the other three.
While those characters are definitely WAY more irredeemable, Cersei is still of one the most hatable characters in the story because we got to know her personally.
@@kiravampira1456 I'd put Erron Grayjoy (sorry if I misspelled his name) above Roose Bolton. Roose is cruel and definitely irredeemable but he only acts pragmatically. Like Tywin. He doesn't torture and betray people for fun like his son or Joffery. Joffery is definitely my most hated character though, the little shit.
Edit: I mean the Erron Grayjoy from the books by the way. The show didn't really protray him well. He's an absolute menace to society trying to revive a dead God or something!
I agree! While Joffrey, Ramsey, Roose, Walder, Tywin, etc. are all scumbags you despise, there was something about Cersei that made her more hateful because she brought it to a whole other level!
She is a monster who will blame everyone else for whatever problems happen that greatly affect her, and anyone who refuses to kiss her ass is her enemy!
@demonwolf570 Thought so, since Euron didn't do much in the show, yet I've heard that he's pure evil in the books. I was just about to watch this UA-camr's video about him (mostly about his book version). And yes, out of all the Game of Thrones characters, Joffrey is by far the most deserving of hatred.
Oh, it's Cersei's turn. God, I can't wait to see your take on her.
25:03 I always figured the betrayal Cersei's talking about in that scene is Tommen's turn to the faith, not his suicide
Bro, the way you narrate, I bet ppl can only dream of having that same energy. You do such a great job!
I thought he sounded like an AI honestly, not in a good way
@@juliacoves5873 cool
If Tyrion continues down a dark path in the books (assuming at least TWoW will eventually come out) we could get an Analyzing Evil for every major Lannister except Jaime.
very true
Honestly you could do one for Jaimie as well. He did one for vic Mackey who hasn’t done nearly as bad of an act as trying to kill an innocent child
It would still make for an excellent redemption episode
You could definitely do an analyzing evil of Tyrion right now
@@raymondsims7042 fair enough, although he only gets better after book 1 so it might be more difficult
My favourite character from the show and what a performance from Lena Headey (as always). Great video!
Regarding Cersei and prophesy, plus based on what you’ve said throughout this video, I’m reminded of this quote from the Norns of God of War: Ragnarok.
“There is no grand design. No script. Only the choices you make. That your choices are so predictable merely make us seem prescient.”
It makes me think that Maggy likely could tell instantly what kind of person Cersei was the second she demanded her fortune read. As for her friend, she made the prediction of her death guessing just what kind of girl Cersei was and what she would do for what she believed belonged to her.
damn that’s a bar
Almost every single bad decision she made came around to bite her in the rear. Either over time or at once--individually or in groups. Karma was constantly clawing at her in flux yet despite it all she still kept making the same mistakes. It wasn't JUST how bad of a person she was, it was the fact that she was an absolute fool. Yeah, she didn't get some big flashy death scene like other characters did but she suffered none the less.
You’ve covered almost all the evil characters in Game of Thrones. The only ones left I can think of is Lord Peter Baelish, , Roose Bolton, Walder Frey, Janos Slynt, and Alliser Throne.
Too bad you can never analyze The Night King.
When House of the Dragon is over, you should analyze Alicent Hightower.
Fun fact: Cersei was based on Margaret of Anjou. Wife of Henry VI of england and a prominent figure of the wars of the roses. And just like Margaret lost everything: The throne, her husband and son. I'm sure that will also be the fate of cersei in yhe books
Margaret of Anjou was WAY smarter than her.
Henry IV surely
Got a video idea for you: "Analyzing Evil: Interview With The Vampire".
This game of thrones character analysis is long long overdue. Happy Saturday night to you
I understand that from certain parameters we can all feel for Cersei, but and I’m speaking a primarily a book reader, Cersei Lannister is one of the most appalling, disgusting, murderous, evil spinters I’ve ever read in fantasy literature.
And yes the misogyny in Westeros is horrible, and yes having Tywin Lannister as your father doesn’t improve your chances of being a healthy adult, but the big asterisk here is that Cersei isn’t mad about the misogyny or cruelty that women suffer in Westeros, she’s only mad because she’s not the one inflicting on others by her own hand.
One only has to guess at Cersei’s reaction to the news of Elia Martels brutal murder, and it doesn’t take a genius to imagine Cersei Lannister laughing herself breathless at the thought at what The Mountain did to Elia.
That’s what Cersei Lannister is deep down, a monster.
Same! I never understood how people could hate the High Sparrow after that dude humbled her ass so badly! I cheered when I first read it in the book. She was so awful. Never understood how anybody liked her
@@Captain_Insano_nomercyI mean I like her as a heel she's very fun to hate
I also don't get it when people say that Robert treated her badly... She was the type of person that is undeserving of life... And Robert merely cheated on her. Actions are different depending on who suffers from them. Cersei deserved much worse and Robert did not care about hurting her, not simply because he is a bad man who doesn't care about his wife... But because he knows what his wife is. And it is a damn tragedy that Robert didn't beat her or have her meet with an accident in all those years.
She probably felt some satisfaction at Elia (the woman who married Rhaegar in place if her) got a brutal death just because she's jealous.
I can't put into words just how much I hate Cersei.
Thank the old gods for Blessing me with this vid today i needed it 😂
Either (or both) Clarence "Clay" Morrow or Gemma Teller-Morrow from the TV series Sons of Anarchy would be interesting to see on here
I'm sure that Tyrion wouldn't have killed his and Cersei's mother if he had any say in the matter, but he didn't, he was being BORN and so couldn't help the fact that she ended up dying!
The reason why Tyrion is hated is not just because his mother’s death. It’s also the nerve of him being born a dwarf also. Tyrion being a dwarf reflected badly on Tywin and Cersei’s image of superior Lannisters. If he were average sized, they would have resented him, but not violently hate him.
@@allye4228Ableism, huh? Doesn't surprise me!
"Now Cersei's relationship with her brother, while taboo, isn't something that's necessarily good nor evil [...] but if two consenting adults decide to do this [incest], well then Love Is Love and it is what it is." Uhhh... *BASED alert* ??
The "only" ethical problem with their relationship is the fact that they procreated. Considering their brother was born a dwarf, I think it's fair to say that the level of inbreeding in their blood was high enough for the odds of them not producing a disabled kid to be unfavorable.
The other ethical problem is the troubling power dynamics that are usually present in the relationships, which I'd argue Cersei had with Jamie.
@@jamescoughlan7175 Hmm, well they're twins! I feel like the power dynamics amongst family members (but really everyone towards each other) is determined by the ages of the people involved. Cersei had power over Jamie as a lover, not really as a 'sister' traditionally speaking. If bro is too horny to realize whats going on, that's on him.
@@jamescoughlan7175I don’t think that necessarily had anything to do with them being siblings though. Jaime was easily manipulated and still would have been whether she was younger, older, or not even his relative.
I’ve been waiting for this one especially, Cersei is my favorite villain in A Song of Ice and Fire / Game of Thrones
When Game of Thrones was at its peak of popularity a friend of mine asked me: Who do you think is the best villain of the show Joffrey or Ramsay? My answer was Cersey and even though he laugh and dismissed my opinion I dont regret it, Lena Headey facial expressions are as cold as ice and even when the character is trying to act nice and sweet she has a vibe of: "You ere nothing but a bug to my eyes and I will squash you sooner or later" what an actress what a villain and what a video thanks Vile
This was one of the best breakdowns of Cersei, well done! Loved it
Can you please do one about Lord Orochimaru from "Naruto" or Lust from "Fullmetal Alchemist"?
Super appreciative of what you do. Thank you so much. You've turn me on to media, books, and genres I never would of thought. You've enriched my mind and expanded my knowledge. Thanks for sharing unabashedly.
Analyzing Evil: Ains Ool Gown from Overlord
9:55 not to mention that the only reason Aerys accepted Jaime as king’s guard was to spite Tywin by taking away his heir. So he was being used by multiple parties
One thing thing I find really interesting is that Cersei has essentially the same character flaw as Ned just manifesting in completely different ways. They both think that the everyone will do the something they would do if they were in that situation. Ned believes Little Finger will help him not because Ned is simplify stupid but the fact that Little Finger loves Cat so he will help her husband because that is what Ned would do. It does not occur to Ned that maybe Little Finger would seek to use this to seek power and remove Ned so he can marry Cat. Because of this Ned walks into a trap and dies for his mistake. Cersei is the same, seeing what she would do in everyone, expect she is a horrible person, so she thinks that everyone seeks to accumulate power and will overtake her the moment they get the opportunity because that is what she would do. When dealing with the Tyrells a family who are clearly looking to gain power and are now the only rivals to house Lannister (For Storm of Swords and Feast of Crows at least) , Cersei does not think there can be any real peace or coexistence so she plans to remove them breaking part the most important alliance her family has. She seeks out people like the high sparrow and other chorines that she thinks she can control instead of compete and loyal individuals because in her mind there are no loyal people just people like her that will grab as much power as they can. So when the high sparrow turns on her no one comes to help her and she essentially has lost all her supporters, expect Qyburn, even her brother and she is left in this state of powerlessness at least until Winds of Winter or blowing up the Great Sept in the show. For both of them seeing there refection in the intentions of those around them led to their downfall. Ned story is over essentially and I hope if the main books are concluded this character flaw in Cersei proves to be part of her final downfall.
Always love your videos, but a quick fact check for you.
It wasn't Cersei who had Jon Arryn killed, it was Littlefinger. He then planted evidence to the Starks to make it look like the Lannisters did it. While they surely would've given the chance all things considered, you can't credit Cersei for this on that technicality.
As ever, in my silly and soletary quest to get a look over of Darkstalker from this channel i declare that it is now the 10th upload of this little game with myself.
Been waiting on this one! My all time favorite TV villain!
saying love is love about incest is wild bro ngl
fr i went 🤨
Yeah i thought i had went crazy. And this dude is supposed to lecture people on morality? What a joke.
Lmao
True. Incest should never happen. It's disgusting.
@@FearsomeVoid nah nah, aparantly love is love to this absolutely sick and disguisting joke of a UA-camr.
i want too start off by saying i love your vids. im a long time watcher and have been suggesting this for a long time aswell. please, i beg of you, do the paddys pub gang from always sunny. they are by far the worst people in any sitcome aside from maybe cartman from south park. it would be an interesting video too see come to life so for me, make it happen. love you ❤
Cersei is one of the most compelling tv female antagonists of all time, lena hedley rocked this role.
Season 8 cannot be blamed on her.
wasnt just 8 though, the show was falling after season 4 with the last 3 dropping
@username.exenotfound2943 season 6 was 80% great imo and 7 outside episode 6 was underrated as well.
Season 5 is weak overall, but I actually LIKE the high sparrow and s5 e 3, 4, 8, 9, 10 are great or entertaining.
When the acting is great and something feels off, then it's the directors.
Didn't know I needed this till I saw it
Analyzing Evil: Abijah Fowler
"I don't distrust you because you are a woman. I distrust you because you are not as smart as you think you are."-Tywin Lannister to Cercei
Such a bar, but then again just about every word from Tywin was quotable!
She copied Tywin's arrogance but was never allowed to go through male studies, even though she wanted to. Tywin denied her this.
So he actually distrusted her from the beginning, because of her gender, and now he blames her lack of insight.
Classic Tywin.
@@nouhorni3229 no, Cercei had access to much of the same material Jaime did, she'd often impersonate him when they were younger and she would force the servants or convince Jaime to share information with her.
No, Cercei's failings are her own. She's arrogant but lacks ability. Her greatest 'successes' were always arranged by others and everything she's run, she's run into the ground because she's a self centered narcissist who utterly lacks the ability for self analysis to grow and improve.
@@nouhorni3229It's so funny how fans miss this part.
@@lavinder11 it doesn't really matter since Cercei was at heart a narcissist with psychopathy. She's utterly incapable of realizing she's wrong and she lacks impulse control. You could give her all the classes on ruling in the world and she'd still run it into the ground because she's psychologically incapable of the very thing effective ruling requires-responsibility.
One thing I picked up on was how Cersei didn't take Tywins advice: "Any man who says "I am the king" is no true king"
She then continues to hold onto herself as the queen when she was queen dowager, and always says "I am the queen" in the books. She believed herself as an expert in the game, but in reality she was very poor. Tyrion is the only Lannister with the brain of Tywin, and that is very difficult for her to admit which fuels her hatred for him
Cersei was my favorite, whenever she had a scene you knew something important was gonna be done or said
THIS LADY HAS INSANE SCREEN PRESENCE FRFR
No way you said "love is love" lmao
Yeah like bro he literally said she just using him
right, the tangent about incest being okay is so funny and unnecessary lmao
Analyzing Evil: Pearl from X
Analyzing evil: Peter "littlefinger" Bealish, Roose Bolton(most book version), Varys(book), Bloodraven(book) and Tyrion, Arya and Bran as good potential for becoming three of them.
Gosh ASOIAF as so mush great villain!!!
The Boys: Soldier Boy
AHS: James Patrick March
His story isn't complete yet
@@compositeur8455Technically neither is Cersei’s
@@SirSealandLister the show version is complete
Analyzing evil: Frank Underwood
Analyzing Evil: High Evolutionary from Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
Well I definitely knew this was coming. Not surprising about Cersei Lannisters evil analysis
book cersei is my favourite literary character and show cersei is my favourite show character ever. she's irredeemable, cruel for the sake of cruelty, narcissistic but complex and somewhat sympathetic at the same time. what she had gone through doesn't justify her actions, it makes them more understandable. she's not perfect nor she's any good, but still you can feel her pain and emotions so strongly. she also represents so many things - sexism from both ends, because she's a victim and a villian when it comes to discriminating women. cersei's writing is rich and compelling, she's full of contradictions and that's what makes me love her so much
You do know she's had Robert's bastard infants killed right? Not only that but infront of their own mother. Also, this petty jealousy of the opposite gender has always been just that. There comes a point when someone just isn't sympathetic not only because of what they've done and who they are but because the "pain" she's been through wasn't really all that bad. Not when she was born into one of the most desirable and privileged house arguably in the whole world...
I find it concerning some people claim to "love" this woman...🫤 I think if someone does love a person like this it's either because they don't see them for what they are, or even worse they do and see their own reflection and relate a great deal to them. Big red flag either way.
i’ve watched tywins analysing evil like 5-10 times at least now super keen for this
Day 34 of asking you to please make a video analyzing leo kasper/daniel lamb/the project from the game manhunt 2. Also, great video, my man, keep up the good work!
yes, YES!
@@Force_Of_Habit The most complex characters in video game history
@@Malshiina wouldn't go that far but definitely evil.
@Force_Of_Habit if you take a look at the manhunt 2 website, you can see documents about the expirements the project did in the game and you can see therapy sessions for both leo and danny you can find on youtube as well and much more all this adds a lot of complexity to their characters
@@Force_Of_HabitRockstar really knocked it out of the park with the promotional material for the game
Another great one Vile! Again I think one that would be amazing to do would have to be Nina Meyers from "24" and Jenny Schecter from "The L Word." Both of whom have tons of back story to make a rich and detailed video.
When you play the game of thrones you win or you die. Theres no middle ground - Cersei lannister
Her main fault is that she was entirely focused on playing the game without regard for anything else.
Everyone else worried about the Night King, and she only cared that her foes would destroy each other.
@@danielsantiagourtado3430 they think politics IS a game
All spoiled children those Highborns
No Wonder Georges RR Martin World IS so Bad to live in
When you House the Dragon, you Of or The, there is I'm having a stroke
@robertfaucher3750 this made me lol so hard
I’d love if you’d do an analyzing evil episode on James Bond. It’s be interesting to hear your take. Love the videos!
Cersei and Catelyn Stark both had the same major flaw: They couldn’t see past their own desires. Cersei couldn’t see past her pettiness, cruelty and hatred for being born a woman and her desire to rule in her own name after Tywins death, her desire to murder Tyrion, her desire to bed Jaime simply because in her own narcissistic mind she’s bedding herself and feels whole when she does, with no regard for the consequences and desire to rid herself of the Tyrells, all of which has brought House Lannister to ruin. Catelyn Stark couldn’t see past her children and desire to save them which is completely understandable but it drives her to make terrible decisions, arresting Tyrion for the perceived attempted murder of Bran which leads to Ned being crippled and ultimately imprisoned and executed (also not listening to what Ned told her to do the last time they spoke before she left KL). Freeing Jaime with the delusional idea that it would somehow lead to Sansa and Arya being returned, which greatly undermined Robb’s campaign tho Robb certainly made his own mistakes but losing Jaime as a prisoner freed Tywin to conspire the Red Wedding with the Freys and Boltons, no way does Tywin plan that if Jaime is still Robbs prisoner. Both Cersei and Catelyn greatly diminished the power of their Houses and nearly brought them to ruin but one is clearly more evil than the other
I know itll be a tall order and im sure you have some of it worked on.
But lets see you tackle xehanort
You sit in that chair like Tywin himself lol
Oh shit perfect timing, for the past few weeks I've been binge watching a ton of ASOIAF theory and character videos and I've been thinking about the books quite a bit lately. I definitely need to do another reread soon, plus I bought book 1 for my sister so she can finally get into the series. Thanks for this one👌
In a weird way Cersei is kind of like Sandor Clegane. They might not have turned out they way they did in different circumstances. They're very much a product of their environment and the traumas they've suffered and had no healthy way to deal with.
Love your content mate hope you cover Odin from the GOW series and perhaps Homelander in the future.
Analyzing Evil: Thragg/Conquest from Invincible
like with the boys most likely after the show is out
Brother, I can’t express how excited I am to watch this. Your Tywin and Euron videos are top notch.
"IT IS WHAT IT IS"....... WOW
been waiting for this video so long i went "finally!" at my computer in excitement when i saw it in my feed !!
you should do a video on homelander from the boys! i know he's been analyzed 100x on this site but it would be cool to watch what you have to say about him :)
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From someone who has a Lannister tattoo thank you for these lol. I mean I already pretty much know everything about the book and the show versions of these characters but always appreciate your evil psychology analysis of them anyways.
The prophecy is talking about Jamie, he’s the “Valonqar”. It’s expertly foreshadowed and ultimately does make sense as he is her younger brother as well. Tyrion would be too obvious. I feel Jamie’s redemption ends with him killing Cersei and maybe himself.
That is what I have always hoped was gonna happen, when show Jamie just randomly forgave Cersei and went back to her in the show I was so Disappointed.
It was such a betrayel of his character which ignored all his grow5h and development.