The story of Anakin Skywalker has always struck me as how infinitely tragic it really was. Born a slave to the Hutts, the then became a slave to the Jedi Order, and finally a slave to palpatine and the sith. This man who always hated slavery with his entire being was only freed of his chains moments before his death when he killed the emperor and saved his son.
Future (and as in this case, past future) slavery is the worst. _"The danger of the past was that men became slaves. The danger of the future is that men may become robots."_ -Erich Fromm
"A boy who lost his mother, a husband who lost his wife, a man who lost his soul, but a father who never lost his son....." The Flaming Maniac - Anakin's Symphony
And also one of the cruelest movie villains of all time that I felt sympathy for and cried when he died because under all of that hatred was still a loving father.
@@nont18411Thanos's plans were stupid and didn't make any sort of sense whatsoever .How long does he think that it would take for the universal population to reach the pre-snap levels ? No more than a few decades or atleast a 100 years at best .He himself is a being 1500 years old ,to him a century would have seemed like a decade or even less .Why doesn't he double or increase the amount of food or resources in the universe exponentially ? With the power of infinity stones he could destroy and reduce the universe to its individual atoms and recreate everything all by himself .He literally could create and destroy entire universes with thr infinity stones and yet he chooses the path of mass genocide .It really is only poor writing and it isn't anything deep ,his original goals were to get the intentions of his romantic interest 'Death' to take notice of him in the comics and it wasn't anything more than that .If he truly gave a shit about the universe and life he would have opted for much better and less genocidal ways . Whereas Vader's plans were only made in desperation to be with his son ,the last bastion and symbol of his wife ,Luke was all that was left of Padme in the galaxy .There was anything that he wouldn't do to be by his side .At the end he was so far gone that only his son could have reached Anakin and redeemed him
The exact reverse of that quote could actually apply to the entire Jedi order. Something like: “The more one seeks to force destiny down one path, the more likely it is to take another”. They tried so hard to force Anakin to be the perfect Jedi, to change who he was as a person, that they actually managed to alienate him and push him away at every turn by ignoring his emotional needs, and finally led him to destroy the order itself. They created their own monster.
@@tommyl.dayandtherunaways820 Yes. They brought the end of the order without realizing it. Most died, while others survived to witness the rise of the Empire.
Bro king fu panda lowkey dropped absolute gems worth of quotes. One I always remember is “the future is a mystery, the past is history, but today is a gift and that is why it is called the present”
I read a comic where Sidious forced Vader to fight a clone of Darth Maul to see who was the better apprentice (written before Attack of the Clones was released). When Vader dealt a fatal blow to Maul, there was this exchange: Maul: What could you hate so much to make you so powerful? Vader: Myself.
the dude literally impaled himself to kill the maul clone, and he cites himself as being the thing he hates giving him the strength to kill maul that's pretty metal.
Sums up Vader well. He hates the Jedi, hates Palpatine, and even hated the Sith and the entire galaxy, but he also hated himself the most. ROTS novelization also sums up his thought process when he discovered padme died.
To me Darth Vader is the greatest tragic villain of all time. He’s a monster who’s done unspeakable horrible things but under his cybernetic veneer is a broken man who lost literally everything and was turn essentially into an attack dog. You can’t help but pity him.
I never really considered Vader evil even when I was a kid. I just viewed him as a guy just doing his job, albeit a rather unpleasant one. I mean, when running a galaxy-wide community, one needs a very firm grip on things.
@@Vigriff Vader definitely saw himself as that, too. He saw himself as someone who was carrying out his duties as the Emperor’s enforcer. Still, he knew that it didn’t excuse what he did and it’s pretty clear that he regrets turning to the Dark Side, especially the things he had to do in order to become a part of it.
Poisened by immortallity, no more, no less, he is. He takes it for shure, and he rejects it. A lonesome of time, so many stars, so many galaxies, would anyone understand him?
Maybe I read it in Legends, but when Vader wasn’t committing atrocities in the name of the Empire he’d go fix up his space ship, practice his skills, drink soup, and just weep alone in his mediation chamber.
@@melonboi927 It's not. Canon Vader doesn't feel remorse or regret for his actions. As Lords of the Sith and the 2017 comics clarified, he felt fully justified in his actions to subjugate the Republic and destroy the Jedi. Anakin is the one who believed he needed to atone and wanted to die as penance for his crimes, but Vader's hate and will to live were too strong to overcome until Luke came into the picture.
altho it wasnt obi wan's fault, he wasn't supposed to be anakin's father figure, it was qui gon, killed on palpatine's orders who was, and he would have saved him from falling in my opinion. Anakin would never have needed a palpatine in his life.
@@Zaemoncho And it's precisely why I have and always will view Qui-Gon's death as the most impactful death in the Star Wars universe, as when Qui-Gon died at Maul's hand on Naboo, that sealed the fate of the entire galaxy and especially Anakin, the Chosen One. Might be why the music that played during their duel in the Phantom Menace was titled "Duel of the Fates".
@@Zaemoncho I call bullshit here. It very much was Obi-Wan's fault. Had he used that force speedboost they had used to escape the destroyer droids earlier, he would have been there to keep Qui-Gon from being killed.
Reminds me of a quote from Jolee Bindo during the events of KOTOR. "Love doesn't lead to the dark side. Passion can lead to rage and fear, and can be controlled... But passion is not the same thing as love. Controlling your passions while being in love, that's what they should teach you to beware. But love itself will save you... not condemn you." Ultimately, it was love that enabled Anakin to finally overcome his inner darkness and destroy Sidious out of love for his son.
@@olliegodfrey482 They were told multiple times over several iterations during millennia of arrogance. During Jolee's time specifically, Vrook wouldn't hear anything of it and just accused everyone he could of falling to the Dark Side despite there being no trace of darkness on anyone he came into contact with. Once it got to the time of the prequels, Qui-Gon spent his entire life preaching this message to a deaf council and was forced to remain at a level of a Jedi Knight because of it. It's part of the reason Obi-Wan is canonically so strong - he was trained by someone who was stronger than most of the masters, ostracized along with Qui-Gon and was kept from advancing to the title of Jedi Knight until he was already stronger than almost every other Knight in the order.
Yes! Attachment to Padme didn't lead to his fall, the Jedi's bizarre and perverse way of life and total lack of empathy for a child not born into their system, combined with a brutally difficult life, combined with an evil man's machinations are what turned him. He deserves responsibility for his awful choices, no doubt, but attachment didn't break him, it saved him. Luke's recognition of this, and choice to embrace it, was a clear rebuke to the Jedi of old. The message of those 6 films, to me, is that the rejection of love leads to corruption, and embracing it heals what is broken.
@@IanDoesMagicExactly, Qui Gon being the last true Jedi until Luke came along (from Legends and EU not the sequel trilogy), he understood that Jedi are supposed to care, to have compassion, empathy, and love. He was the one Jedi who could’ve helped Anakin because he was the only Jedi who had not given up on attachments.
@@jmwilliamsartAgreed Ben Skywalker said it best to Luke in the EU “That what attachment really is it not about loving someone,getting married or having a family it about if the bad things happen you become someone else mom wouldn’t want you to be like this.” I get what the Jedi coming from emotional attachment to someone lead them be vulnerable once that person is lost you feel every negative emotions through the force then you discover the dark side. Honestly I think the Jedi more worry about possessiveness that was Anakin big flaw with Padme and lust for power to control life it nothing wrong with making connections and bonds to others it about letting go of them when circumstances is out of your control.
Exactly, even in Love. Ying Yang. Good in everything. Bad in everything. Its a perfect balance, but u can only choose one side. And that is the hardest and most vital decision of all
@Taramafor Haikido Luke was only able to help Vader because he was biologically his family. The feelings that they had with each other were only possible due to two things that were similar between them: same upbring as a Jedi and blood bond. Leia, for example, was already too imerse into the Rebel's ideology to have a strong bond with Vader enough to bring him back, Luke wasn't.
@@reubenmorris487 Yes, but in their actions or lack of, his friends were already "helping" him to turn to the dark side. For example, you can feel Anakin's disappointment when he realizes how limited Yoda's knowledge is regarding his issues, even though he is the most powerful Jedi in the universe. Palpatine, on the other hand, pushed all Anakin's right buttons to look more mature than Yoda. A Sith proving to be more mature than a Jedi through the comprehension of Anakin.
Anakin just wanted to fix things. He was a gifted mechanic and he fixed his speeder. Then he wanted to fix the slave situation both for his mother and slaves in general. Then he wanted to fix his visions about Padme dying. And finally he wanted to fix the galaxy into his point of view.
@@orarinnsnorrason4614 Anakin had a choice to balance the force in solitude as shown in the CG Clone Wars series but if he didn’t then the universe would have a darker future.
In the legends there is one dude Vader genuinely liked, he was a member of the Stormtrooper Army, and he nearly sacrificed his own life to save Vader's in an assassination plot. Vader held heavy respect for this man, and when he was severely wounded, Vader ordered the priority of bringing the man back to good health and let him leave the army to spend time with his family, in fear of losing his only true friend in the empire.
@@KaminoKatie yeah, I think it was the author's attempt at showing the Skywalker in Vader, that his humanity wasn't totally lost to the dark side, and it's nice to see.
"Anakin would stop at nothing to save me, because he thinks i would do the same for him" ...that made me feel sad. Kenobi seems to be implying that he wouldn't. Certain aspects of the Jedi feel just as wrong as sith traits. Especially that serene indifference.
I think Obi-Wan would, or thought that he would, but he felt very ashamed of that thought. That was the real tragedy. He truly loved Anakin but he was ashamed because loving him went agains the JC, so he never told Anakin, perhaps assuming that he knew anyway, while Anakin needed words and reafirmation due to his tragic past as a slave. This is taken from the ROTS novel, I don't care if Disney denies it is canon, I love that novel and it give us a lot of insight into the characters
I think that is part of the theme of Star Wars once you get in the Original Trilogy. Luke going to Cloud City was the RIGHT course of action but was against everything the old Jedi stood for. Luke, by his actions, changes Obi-Wan and Yodi as well. I think by the end of ROTJ, they are starting to see how flawed the old order was. Luke was destined to start a new and better Jedi order that embraces positive feelings such as love when used in the right capacity. The Sequels kind of hint at this but ruin it with the entire Kylo Ren story. Sequels were kind of a disaster so I don't consider them cannon anymore.
@@andrewft31 The Revenge of the Sith novelization is still Legends unfortunately. It was made with the Clone Wars Multimedia Project, The Clone Wars' predecessor, in mind (which is also unfortunately, Legends)
That sums up Vader perfectly. He hated himself more than anyone else in the galaxy. He knew that he made bad decisions and was responsible for everything that happened to him, but was too prideful to admit it.
@@speedracer2008 I think we admitted it to himself, tormented himself over it even. He just didn’t know how to deal with it in a positive way. Or maybe I’m just projecting my story onto him… 😅
I also think that Mace Windu saying “he is too dangerous to be left alive” just like Palpatine said to Anikin at the start of the movie is extremely important. This proves to Anikin that the Jedi and Sith are fundamentally the same, just as Palpatine suggested, so why don’t chose the side that would save his Wife.
Mace was right. Palpatine started a war and played both sides which amounted to millions of deaths and galactic wide destruction. He manipulated anakin since he was a child and did it again against Mace.
@@Jalenlane93 True, but maybe if Mace struck to the Jedi code and followed the rules instead of proving himself a hypocrite, Anikin would not have lost faith in the Jedi and stuck with them.
@@Jalenlane93 point being mace windu confirmed palpatine was right even if he used the information manipulativly. When push came to shove the jedi were hypocrites and even the most devout would break their code if pushed. Had mace simply acted like a jedi in that moment palpatine wouldve been undone and the empire never rises
@UnholyWrath3277 Mace is still human at the end of the day he made a mistake. Palpatine caused a war, which resulted in galactic wide damage and millions of deaths. He is the ultimate evil, and Mace just witnessed him kill 3 other jedi.
Has anyone ever really thought that poor R2 is literally the only one who knows pretty much the absolute truth about the events of the skywalker saga that citizens in the galaxy would never be privy to. Mind boggling honestly.
Obi Wan doesn't care about Anakin at first, he only trains him out of a promise to his master. It wasn't about Anakin being the chosen one, or the fact that he cared about Anakin, he just did it for Qui gon. obi wan was a brother to Anakin, but Qui gon would have been a father. And that was precisely what Anakin needed.
Agreed. Anakin comments twice how Obi Wan is the closest thing to his father during Attack of the Clones, but it’s clear from the beginning to the end that it was more of an older brother looking after an orphaned boy due to a promise to his father rather than a direct choice. Obi Wan wasn’t ready for an apprentice and Anakin quickly latched on to Palpatine as a praising Father figure. Qui Gon was the perfect Jedi and the perfect one to train Anakin😔👌rip
This is so true. I will add, Obi Wan was fairly young himself. So he was practically given an adopted little brother to raise, while basically being a kid himself. Obi Wan did the best he could with what he knew.
@@danthemancushecan well so did mace windu you would think that anakin would dislike him but in truth the case is diffrent he actually looked up to him and yoda in a way it was what palpatine said when he meant about making a choice mace windu was everthing anakin wanted to be someone who controls his inner darkness and channels it and powerful enough to defeat palpatine or choose the dark side ov er it he did it for padme and you know how that turned out,
Luke: "You're coming with me, I'll not leave you here I've got to save you!" Anakin: "You already have, Luke. You were right.. You were right about me.. Tell your sister, you were right" Luke: "Father, I won't leave you" then becomes free for once in his life
I always thought the British grammar construction of the line "I'll not leave you here" was so strange, being acted by a Californian, written by a Californian and a Floridian.
Something interesting happens if you combine the 2 Prophecies of the Sith and Jedi which IMO is the same prophecy but incomplete with specific parts only give to the Optimistic POV of the recipient. The Prophecy of the Chosen One and the Sith'ari: A Chosen One shall come, born of no father, The Sith'ari will be free of limits, The Sith'ari will lead the Sith and destroy them, The Sith'ari will raise the Sith from death and make them stronger than before, and through him will ultimate balance in the Force be restored.
The really heartbreaking part was the novel telling us that the only reason he even desired the tank of Master was to gain access to the texts in the Jedi archives that only those I'd Master-rank and above could access. He didn't care about the tank at all. He cared about what that rank would let him access in his quest to save Padme.
One of the main reason why I like Darth Vader is that we all can end up this way. Good in the beginning but lived long enough to see yourself to become a villian. His story is very relatable in real life
And also one of the cruelest movie villains of all time that I felt sympathy for and cried when he died because under all of that hatred was still a loving father.
@Aquarium Gravel You are literally killing children? What do you mean how much do you "really love them". If you can even say you'd do that you need help, Padme stopped trying to understand Anakin as soon as she heard what he did. I can love someone with all my heart and know when to let go, if you can't do that and proceed to do ANYTHING then you need help.
Vader is quiet, solemn, speaks through actions, speaks through his presence. Something few movie villains actually do. They compensate with story, with dialogue. Not with Vader. That's what makes him so scary.
Exactly. Even though Vader is very intelligent and has a sophisticated way of speaking, he’s also kind of a man of few words and a lot of action. Vader can be polite, but he’s mostly very blunt. Which makes sense given he’s mostly a military man. He doesn’t feel the need to mince words or prattle.
"What could you possibly hate enough to defeat me?" - Maul "Myself." - Vader I know the comic probably isn't canon anymore, but I personally think this single phrase uttered by Vader peers incredibly deep into the complexity of his character. It's one of my favorite Vader lines, bar none.
@@Domainz77 It's a Legends comic (Star Wars Tales #9) where a Dark Side cult made a doppelganger of Darth Maul who Vader fought. Vader was off-balanced in the beginning, but quickly overcame the vastly inferior Sith. The fake Maul taunted him with the quote the OP typed out, and Vader responded thusly.
This is Legends and 2008 TCW isn't Canon to Legends so Maul is dead (it officially is, but it retconned a lot of good previous lore so I tend to ignore it).
Darth Vader is a character made entirely by loss. From Qui-Gon Jin, Anakin lost his Innocence From Shmi, Anakin lost his Mercy From Ahsoka, Anakin lost his Trust And from Padmé, Anakin lost his Compassion. His greatest weakness, Love, became his only salvation. Such a great villain, damn.
One other thing to consider from ROTS is after he executes Dooku, Palpatine of course justifies it with “he was too dangerous to be kept alive.” Later on, when Windu had subdued Palpatine and said the same thing about him being too dangerous to be kept alive, that likely was Anakin’s final deciding factor. He had already been teetering strongly toward the dark, but in his mind, that moment proved that there was no difference between the two, so screw it...why not turn to the dark if there’s even just a small chance it could save his wife?
What makes Vader interesting to me is that his conflict it's not only psychological, but also physical. Man he's the strongest and most gifted force user, so anything he feels can affect him in a way no one can imagine. So, feeling pain, sadness and sorrow can make him fall in the dark side heavily and drawn in his emotions (anger, rage, hate) more than anyone else, with a consequence also in his mind. I hope my point is understood
I can see the psychological aspects of Anakin/Darth Vader. But I think he had spiritual problems too. Something the Jedi couldn't help him with. The loss of his limbs must've been a spiritual battle long after the wounds had healed. Darth Vader commited many evil deeds, when he imersed himself more and more in the dark side of the force.
I love how you do not sugar coat it. We love Anakin, we see his suffering. But in the end he WAS evil (And I literally mean the end) and all of his suffering comes from his own choices. The best part of his character? He is FULLY aware of it.
He’s a tragic villain because he literally had nightmares that he would lose everything but it’s too late for him because it was his fear that drove it into it happening
17:12 Which makes it more tragic when Obi-Wan sees Anakin as beyond redemption on Mustafar and leaves him to burn. Him and Yoda both saw Vader as irredeemable and hoped Luke would kill him without finding out who he was.
While both Yoda and Obi-Wan saw Vader as irredeemable by the time of RotJ, your claim that they hoped Luke would kill Vader without knowing the truth is wrong as shown by RotJ: Luke: "Unfortunate that I know the truth?" Yoda:"No! Unfortunate that you rushed to face him... that incomplete was your training. Not ready for the burden were you."
He's an amazing physical actor, love his intimidating looks when he becomes Darth Vader. Kinda makes me wish for a live action "what if?" Type scenario, with Hayden Christensen as Vader post Mustafar, sans the suit
I think it's important to note Vader killed out of anger and necessity. Sidious on the other hand was a total sadist who killed for fun and perverse enjoyment, Vader did not. So he was not pure evil. Also Vader was still capable of love whereas Sidious never loved anything but himself, even gleefully killing his own family.
I hate Anakin/Vader to the core cause he murdered those innocent kids in cold blooded & he picked a old man(the Emperor) over his own wife which is so bad as a husband where he could of have pick her instead, And even he force choked his pregnant🤰 wife with their twins & that’s why I don’t feel sorry for Anakin/Vader whatsoever, Vader/Anakin is not a tragic character that other people think he is cause he chose the dark side by his own free will like he was not mind control, I am glad that Vader/Anakin ended up becoming the Emperor bitch ass slave for over 20 years until Luke free his bitch ass from his sugar daddy/master.
@@baileygilbert4766 Well Sidious killed his entire family for fun and didn't give it a second thought. Anakin was tormented by his actions even while he was Vader. And you can see by the look on his face before he's about to kill the Younglings he was not having a good time, he was following orders. He picked the emperor because he thought that would save her and when he thought she was dead, he went all-in with the emperor. Don't get me wrong Vader was an evil fuck but he was not pure evil, Sidious was pure evil. Taking over a galaxy for the purpose of inflicting suffering on trillions for personal enjoyment is pure evil.
Anakin's fall to the dark side was more of a tragedy than a fully thought out decision to follow the path of evil. He wasn't some power hungry psychopath who cared for no-one, but rather it was his will to protect Padmé at all costs and manipulation of Palpatine that was his downfall.
Eh he uses that to cover his lust for power. He always craved power but he at one point genuinely believed in the teachings of the Jedi and republic. While padme definitely pushed him in the wrong direction it's not like he didn't have the craving to prove everyone wrong about him that palpatine exploited
@Aquarium Gravel palpatine didnt really know about the vision in fact it was revealed that palpatine was going to use padme in the future when he reaches his potentional to keep anakin from killing him he would use padme as a hostage indicates he didnt knew she was going to die and in fact hoped to change it would also buy vader's trust in him.
"You loved her. You will always love her. You could never will her death. Never. But you remember . . . You remember all of it. You remember the dragon that you brought Vader forth from your heart to slay. You remember the cold venom in Vader's blood. You remember the furnace of Vader's fury, and the black hatred of seizing her throat to silence her lying mouth-And there is one blazing moment in which you finally understand that there was no dragon. That there was no Vader. That there was only you. Only Anakin Skywalker. That it was all you. Is you. Only you. You did it. You killed her. You killed her because, finally, when you could have saved her, when you could have gone away with her, when you could have been thinking about her, you were thinking about yourself. . . It is in this blazing moment that you finally understand the trap of the dark side, the final cruelty of the Sith-Because now your self is all you will ever have. And you rage and scream and reach through the Force to crush the shadow who has destroyed you, but you are so far less now than what you were, you are more than half machine, you are like a painter gone blind, a composer gone deaf, you can remember where the power was but the power you can touch is only a memory, and so with all your world-destroying fury it is only droids around you that implode, and equipment, and the table on which you were strapped shatters, and in the end, you cannot touch the shadow. In the end, you do not even want to. In the end, the shadow is all you have left. Because the shadow understands you, the shadow forgives you, the shadow gathers you unto itself-And within your furnace heart, you burn in your own flame. This is how it feels to be Anakin Skywalker. Forever . . ."
ArchDemonDemiurge, Wow! FABULOUS. Who wrote this? This is phenomenally deep and well written. There's a whole theory of the psychology of being evil implied and suggested, touched upon ...introduced... and opened up here. (When I was planning to go to grad school, one of the areas of focus I was seriously considering was Theories of Evil. Not out of a fascination with evil so much as a desire to bolster or Fortify good. THIS passage would be an EXCELLENT Example of a theory of the psychological causes of Evil and the psychological / subjective Experience of being evil. The Psychology Of Evil. How better to promote good than to understand what causes Evil. And if the Evil suffer from what they've become-- what better warning against the lure of evil. Or the power of evil to capture a soul unawares--in that flash of rage or selfishness.) Take action based on only your own self interest. Only your own feelings. You would even kill the one you love most. Becauyes in the moment that you're consumed by the dark side-hyphen-you love no 1 but yourself. Then the moment is over and now you are doomed with no 1 left but yourself. Let the shadow, I'm thinking this corresponds very well to the Union idea the shadow, Is the only thing left in existence that understands you and forgive you. Your own shadow is all you have left. The only companion. That! Is! Deep! If it were poorly written it would still be deep. But this was very well written! Beautiful. …So?... I need to know who wrote this…!…
@@SebasTian58323 Wow! I was just coming here to revise my comment. --The stuff about my ideas for great school should be near the end. But hey Thank You! The is the Second long passage from the Novelization that I've heard that's Knocked Me Out with how unique and well written it is. (The first one was...~"the dark side is always there, under the your chair, under the table at which you sit, under your bed sheets." That last image Scares me. It is eery. Like the monster under the bed. But it's the evil that will wrap around you when you slip under your sheets. 😬😬 Erry and even frightening. After that... it's in the sun light; it's under your feet... What intense images. In other words-- we're Surrounded by our capacity for evil. *That's*--damn. I would hate to view my reality that way. But it might be true--!?-- So I know the author is A Good Writer. But like I said above-- this passage isn't just good writing, it suggests a whole chain of ideas about How you turn evil, Why you turn evil, What it feels like to be evil, and what allows you to stay evil. (You think you have nothing left but your own dark side to understand and comfort you.) Wow! I've never read a Novelization. And I'm not really reading these days-- which is kind of shameful cuz I'm a writer. But of late I'm too much of beleaguered Cyborg to read! Instead I'm rubbing this phone with my finger so the time (swift typing I mean) 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️😄🤷🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️. But This Novelization would obviously be one to read! Maybe I should buy it and leave it on a side table calling to me to "unplug and read an amazing book!" 🤭😄 Anyway--THANK YOU. What an amazing passage. And very thoughtful of you to answer my question. It seems a few people are still following this thread though they commented months ago. That's why Star Wars fans are Awesome. We have longer attention spans. 😉 Because we care. This stuff is worth caring about! Poor Anakin...🥀🌸✨️🥀...
@@judeannethecandorchannel2153it's especially impactful when read after reading the rest of the novelisation. It does stray from the movie a bit, but not much, but it goes into great detail about how most of the characters are feeling.
Less obvious choices are more fun. God only knows how many videos on Walter white there are. He is fascinating but I think his descent was shown so we'll and over so much screen time there isn't anything really hidden there
Vader is such an emblematic villain in literally any story, the prequels doing him more justice in the long run honestly. The comics and novels give his character so much more depth beyond the screen, only _true_ Star Wars fans understand the immense respect and reverence for the character. He was never truly the bad guy. He was twisted and malformed into one, through pain, suffering, and deceit. His character goes beyond the black and white morals of good versus evil. He is a husk of a man fighting for something that he probably once truly did believe in, but now uses it as an outlet for his pain. The story of Anakin Skywalker is up there with the likes of Hamlet or Macbeth, in my estimation. The films moved me to tears when I was a child, seeing Anakin hurt the people he once loved to serve a greater purpose that turned out to be a massive lie. Good video. Damn good.
This video really highlights the mistake a lot of Star Wars fans make when they say it’s so laughable and ridiculous how quickly Anakin turns evil and to the dark side in Episode III. It was not quick at all. People who think this weren’t paying close enough attention.
In terms of just the film itself he does turn pretty quickly, which is what some people have an issue with. However, you have to take into account the overall story of the previous two films to see what Lucas was going for in building up to Anakin's fall.
@@Darthpsychonis Yeah most people don't seem to look into the context of the first two films, or sometimes even ROTS, when they don't mention how Anakin's views on the Jedi, goverment, and other things included his turn as well. Not just Padme's death.
@@chriswilson3126 Still the Tusken's did torture his mother and for what reason? They weren't civilized people like Mandalorian seems to show them as being. I wonder what the reason was for them taking her, tying her up and doing whatever they did because she has a lot of lacerations. I'm not saying how Anakin killed them was right but I feel like it wasn't unjustified. It's interesting to think about and then think about other heroes who have gone on revenge massacres.
He is one of the most cruel villains of all time and at the end I still cried and felt sympathy for him. Under all of that rage was still a loving father who had lost everything.
I really like this analysis. The Jedi did play a huge part in Anakin's transition into Vader- they were egotistical, suppressive of natural emotions, and complacent. He chose his path to the dark side, but it was from his understanding of the shortcomings of both sides was he able to fulfill his prophecy to bring balance to the force.
Theres more than one way to skin a gundaark, just because Aniken turned evil doesn't mean that was the only path possible. Maybe he was actually meant to take Yoda's place? Someone claiming they need knowledge of both sides of the force is really just using that as an excuse to be evil, for their own reasons.
Perhaps people use their fear of something they don’t understand as an excuse for inaction under the guise of some superior sense of morality. Immersing yourself in evil is dangerous- likewise choosing to remain entirely ignorant of your opposition to place yourself higher on the totem pole is equally dangerous.
Anakin's turn to the dark side started once he saw what they did to Ahsoka. He struggled as hard as he could to keep his faith, but it was eroded over time thanks to their actions. His subsequent interactions with them cemented the beginning of the end after they denied him the rank of Master as what was basically a punishment for the past.
Wrong, we are told exactly why he falls to the dark side in RotS: "I will do whatever you ask." "Just help me save Padmé's life. I can't live without her." Anakin falls because he decides to be selfish.
i made an essay once about vader, and i said the reason he wanted luke to join him was because he wanted a family, he wanted the reminder of the woman he loved, of padme.
His Fallen Order cameo is one of his best appearances imho. He just straight up murders the final boss you just spent an hour and buckets of sweat and blood beating 2 seconds in, then throws a jedi master away with a flick of his wrist. If you even try running, you're insta killed.
@@edoardoprevelato6577 then immediately begins to pick up the floor, teleport and the holds the force of *several miles of water* with his mind, damn such a good cameo and best representation of Vader
Im of the personal belief that if the Jedi’s views weren’t so dogmatic, and allowed for Jedi to form attachments freely and without scrutiny, Anakin would have never felt so conflicted about his loyalty to Padme and the order and would’ve been able to discuss his visions publicly, allowing him to not fall to the dark side
But if the Jedi weren't so dogmatic, there would have been no need for Anakin in the first place. He's a tool of the Force, remember? If there is no need to correct the Path of the Jedi then there is no need for Darth Vader thus Anakin would never have been born.
That's probably one of the reasons Luke's New Jedi Order wasn't structured exactly like the Old Jedi Order. He wanted to learn from the mistakes of his forefathers, to which he did.
@Dustin W Great analysis. The only way to achieve true balance is to embrace the dark as well as the light. The dark side isn't evil, it's evil people using it for their own lust for power.
I think Palpatine persuading Anakin to cut off Dooku's head was another way that he curated and developed Anakin's negative traits. Anakin, at first, wanted to spare his life and bring him to court/trial, while Palpatine wanted to show him how immediate action can simplify things and bring to a quick resolution to issues, instead of drawing things out with proceedings to just maybe get to a conclusion eventually. Palpatine wanted to show Anakin that HE had the power to make decisions to resolve situations, and leaving that responsibility to someone else meant he wouldn't always get the desired outcome that he thought was right. Just masterful manipulation by Palpatine.
He treated everyone with care and love, but the Jedi returned his feelings with disdain and disregard, and because of their treatment for the chosen one, their savior's love turned to hatred and they had invited their own destruction unto themselves.
Anakin to Yoda: "I'm afraid of someone I love dying" "fuckin get over it dude" Anakin to Palpatine: "I'm afraid of someone I love dying" "I've heard of ways to save people from death, wanna find it?" gee what side is someone going to choose?
Even then Anakin still did his duty and told Mace Windu that Palpatine was a Sith Lord, who immediately went on to exclude Anakin from the arrest even though being close to Palpatine he might have aided in resolving things peacefully and then decided to for no reason arbitrarily execute Palpatine completely disregarding Anakin’s pleas.
Me: (*snorts and pulls Cheetos dust stained one piece suit off of my bruised body* ) Babe wha- (*looks at the screen and the warmth in my cheeks slowly returns*) (*I slam my face into the screen*)
It’s truly the saddest story in the galaxy when you really go deep into it he just wanted to get away from slavery as a child just to be manipulated into a slave for the emperor for the rest of his life
He feared and hated slavery/slavers instead of loving those who opposed it and tried to destroy slavery instead of supporting freedom. That, I believe, was his mistake.
I can understand the conflict of Anakin better the older I become. I often feel as if I'm being pulled this way and that by many things, and unsure if I'm still the same idealistic person I was when I was younger. Does anybody else here feel like they're losing who they used to be, who they want to be?
I broke in middle school. I am constantly finding myself thinking of increasingly dark thoughts. The only thing keeping me grounded is my family. I don’t know where I’d be if I lost them.
0:07 LOL the way this was cut was so funny to me. The “hello everyone, welcome to analyzing evil” as Vader strikes his saber and the guards freak out and shoot 😂
This is a great analysis of how Anakin's infinite capacity for greatness is a double-edged sword. He might also have borderline personality disorder as stated by Cinema Therapy. He has really bad attachment issues. As the saying goes, those who are heartless cared too much. Indeed, Anakin values people than principles, he is so fiercely loyal to the people he is attached to, that he turned to the Dark as a Sith because of Padme, and returned to the Light as a Jedi because of Luke (Side point, I think out of their children, Luke resembles Padme while Leia resembles Anakin, and passed this onto Ben Solo/Kylo Ren). Many argue Darth Vader and Anakin Skywalker are two people. While I sort of agree to that, I see them as the same person but influenced by two different philosophies - Anakin, by nature and his childhood as a slave, is easily influenced, always the slave, if you will, he has the will to rebel, but his nature is always a follower. That is why he is so conflicted and angry as a Jedi, and so cold and distant as Vader with no apparent friendship, and so frustrated with each order, all thank to the influence/teaching of both the Jedi and Palpatine of forbidding attachment/friendship in each case, and how he couldn't truly find himself. Indeed, he brings the balance to the force, by being the most unbalanced entity in himself. It is tragically ironic. I am curious of what the Analysing Evil episode for Kylo Ren would look like now!
Phenomenal analysis of Anakin's life and characterization. The musical ambience, extensive research and detailed narration make this one of my favorites so far. Great job! Can't wait for the Emperor.
@@markr3730 Anakin’s redemption was him saving his son, turning back to the light side, killing Palpatine and fulfilling the Chosen One Prophecy. The story of Star Wars is about the tragedy of Anakin Skywalker and the Skywalker family not some random OP Scavenger who has no prior training and is somehow more powerful than more than half of the Jedi and Sith ever shown in Star Wars.
@@Shark_King325 first off Rey isn’t that powerful at all she only won thanks to kylo either be very wounded physically and spiritually or holding back and won against palpatine because she was amped by the Jedi which after that she died literally.Two I would not take the chosen one prophecy at face vale prophecy in general are very vague and very misleading.plus i find it very odd you say it ruined considering darth cadeus and darth krayt and darth talon happen.
@@markr3730 Are you totally going to ignore that she used Jedi mind trick without even knowing what force was? Even if she's not all powerful or Mary Sue, she's still just a plot device of a character for writers.
The most tragic thing is that Anakin falls into the Dark Side, and Palpatine's machinations, through love. The emotion that should have lifted him up, dragged him into the darkest deeds.
Anakin was tricked and trapped. He says to Luke "you don't know the power of the dark side" and "I must obey my master" which implies he is trapped and can't disobey the Emperor. It's quite sad because the only time he can is when he dies, Palpatine is too distracted to control Vader and he takes his chance but Palpatine kills him. It's a Romeo and Juliet story with Anakin and Padme. "Across the stars" sure is similar to "Star crossed lovers".
I find it fitting how Anakin, the chosen one, is almost always enslaved. Whether it be by the Hutts, Jedi, or Sith, he's always trapped in bondage. And if he was free? Well, he'd still be a slave to the whims of the Force. The Force has a will of it's own that we can see bits and pieces of; nudging events along so that things play out in a specific way. If Anakin ever left the Jedi order to be his own man, the Force would just toss him through a different meat grinder until he's compliant.
Anakin can't be a slave to the force if he also wants to do it. The circumstances of Anakin's life and the people within it are what shaped him into who he is.
I looked this up last night and was disappointed to see there was no Analyzing Evil for Darth Vader because he is one of the most if not the most notorious of villains in the Star Wars Universe and I get on UA-cam to see this. I’m going to have to subscribe, thank you so much.
I feel like the only thing that can possibly explain Anakin's willingness to kill the Jedi younglings was a certainty they were already as good as dead. The clones had the building surrounded and all inside were pinned down. They had no shortage of troops. Anakin likely saw it as an inevitability. But once he'd done the deed, he likely continued his crisis of identity. If he could kill a child to save Padme, and fight back against a Jedi Order he no longer believed in, he could do anything for that purpose. I think that is what finally made him mentally capable of attacking Obi-Wan. Also, he might have felt that since the only person whose judgement could be trusted was his own (which he repeatedly displayed in the Clone Wars), that it was necessary he maintain a position of power in whatever came after the Republic. And we know from the Mortis storyline that he's willing to fully embrace the Dark Side if it means staving off something worse.
It's insane to see how manipulation turned him from anakin, the loving and loyal man to vader, a ruthless monster who doesn't care about who he kills or what he has to destroy in order to give him power.
"I hope so, commander, for your sake. The emperor is not as forgiving as I am." -Darth Vader A very obscure juxtapose aspect of Anakin vs. Vader is the popularly unknown incident of Anakin's youth when he saved the life of a Tusken Raider. This event, which takes place prior to the arrival of Qui-Gon Jinn and co., is depicted in the novelization of "The Phantom Menace." The event doesn't really change any aspect of Anakin/Vader, as described in this video, I bring it up mostly because so few people either know about it or mention it. This was a good, in depth video of Darth Vader, who is definitely my favorite cinematic villain.
I recommend going back and viewing the original trilogy with this perspective: Anakin was a man who felt great affection and respect for those around him as he fought alongside them in the Clone Wars. This can be seen in Vader as, despite his reputation, it seems like he will look for any opportunity to compliment his subordinates when he perceives them as doing a commendable job. To me at least, it seems like he's desperate to feel the comradery and mutuel respect he so often had the opportunity to experience in his previous life.
I love the mention of his reverence of the force post Vader suit. It's like he's replacing all that pain, and convincing himself: "Oh well, I'm the one doing this but it's just the force working through me." His faith in the force is just another attempt of his to justify his actions.
The great downfall of Anakin is the lack of introspection. His relation to feelings. He hardly really question his feelings, and is always quick to act on them. He can’t make the difference between personal and important. That’s why Palpatine plays him like a fiddle… but also why that backfires in Palpatine’s face at the very end.
Vader has one of the most epic lines ever imo and it's not "I am your father".... in the comics he is surrounded and threatened with capture or death if he doesn't surrender and Vader responds with "All I am surrounded by...is fear and dead men" before proceeding to kill 2 entire divisions of storm troopers commanded by tarkin
As Iv gotten older I am more impressed with the design of Vader once he is put into the suit. He is physically and metaphorically a robot. Cold and unfeeling towards everything and has no purpose. Only because of his son does his humanity slowly come back by an inch
Vader is one of the most compelling characters ever he’s just a sad angry man that has nothing left but his hate. He has nothing left but to serve his master basically as his bitch. And as said in the video this is the read why he’s one of my favorites
And also one of the cruelest movie villains of all time that I felt sympathy for and cried when he died because under all of that hatred was still a loving father.
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Man you are freakin awesome! Can't wait to see it! 👍🏾👍🏾🥇
Hope you fix the audio on your old videos.
Please due Berserk next!
Ma-Ma from Dredd.
Awesome! Do you think you might get into other TV fictional villains such as Gus Fring, Killer Bob (Twin Peaks), Negan, Joffrey or Ben Linus?
The story of Anakin Skywalker has always struck me as how infinitely tragic it really was. Born a slave to the Hutts, the then became a slave to the Jedi Order, and finally a slave to palpatine and the sith. This man who always hated slavery with his entire being was only freed of his chains moments before his death when he killed the emperor and saved his son.
I would like to add, He wasn't just a slave to the Sith, he was a slave to his anger, fear, and hatred.
Future (and as in this case, past future) slavery is the worst.
_"The danger of the past was that men became slaves. The danger of the future is that men may become robots."_ -Erich Fromm
Dork.
@@scottishdude9682 yes
@@darthwyvvern which is something so integral that even Palpatine warned him against letting them control you
"A boy who lost his mother, a husband who lost his wife, a man who lost his soul, but a father who never lost his son....."
The Flaming Maniac - Anakin's Symphony
And also one of the cruelest movie villains of all time that I felt sympathy for and cried when he died because under all of that hatred was still a loving father.
Vader sacrificed all of his evil plans to save his son.
Thanos sacrificed his daughter to save all of his evil plans.
And a mentor that lost his student
@@nont18411Thanos's plans were stupid and didn't make any sort of sense whatsoever .How long does he think that it would take for the universal population to reach the pre-snap levels ? No more than a few decades or atleast a 100 years at best .He himself is a being 1500 years old ,to him a century would have seemed like a decade or even less .Why doesn't he double or increase the amount of food or resources in the universe exponentially ? With the power of infinity stones he could destroy and reduce the universe to its individual atoms and recreate everything all by himself .He literally could create and destroy entire universes with thr infinity stones and yet he chooses the path of mass genocide .It really is only poor writing and it isn't anything deep ,his original goals were to get the intentions of his romantic interest 'Death' to take notice of him in the comics and it wasn't anything more than that .If he truly gave a shit about the universe and life he would have opted for much better and less genocidal ways . Whereas Vader's plans were only made in desperation to be with his son ,the last bastion and symbol of his wife ,Luke was all that was left of Padme in the galaxy .There was anything that he wouldn't do to be by his side .At the end he was so far gone that only his son could have reached Anakin and redeemed him
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Vader’s story reminds me of a line from Kung fu Panda “ One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it.”
The exact reverse of that quote could actually apply to the entire Jedi order. Something like: “The more one seeks to force destiny down one path, the more likely it is to take another”. They tried so hard to force Anakin to be the perfect Jedi, to change who he was as a person, that they actually managed to alienate him and push him away at every turn by ignoring his emotional needs, and finally led him to destroy the order itself. They created their own monster.
@@tommyl.dayandtherunaways820 Yes. They brought the end of the order without realizing it. Most died, while others survived to witness the rise of the Empire.
Totally agree. Similar to the Édipo tragedy: is to trying to avoid your curse, that you became the cursed itself.
"it's like poetry, it rhymes"
Bro king fu panda lowkey dropped absolute gems worth of quotes. One I always remember is “the future is a mystery, the past is history, but today is a gift and that is why it is called the present”
Luke: Big man in a suit of armor. Take that off, what are you?
Vader: Your father
YEAAAAAAAH.
The chosen one.
A corpse, but since the suit inflicts me excruciating pain and i still can do what i do, what does that make me?
Edoardo Prevelato the galaxies most dangerous triple amputee?
@@remainprofane7732 accurate.
Maul: "Tell me Lord Vader, who do you hate the most?"
Vader: "Myself."
Which was a lie. Vader loved himself more than anything, which was why he sacrificed everything so he alone could live.
@@BattleshipAgincourt lol
@@BattleshipAgincourt ??
@@BattleshipAgincourt Uh, Darth Sidious is next episode.
PROXY: "Ugh. I hate being him."
Starkiller: "I think he does too."
I read a comic where Sidious forced Vader to fight a clone of Darth Maul to see who was the better apprentice (written before Attack of the Clones was released). When Vader dealt a fatal blow to Maul, there was this exchange:
Maul: What could you hate so much to make you so powerful?
Vader: Myself.
Wow...that's sad.
the dude literally impaled himself to kill the maul clone, and he cites himself as being the thing he hates giving him the strength to kill maul
that's pretty metal.
Sums up Vader well. He hates the Jedi, hates Palpatine, and even hated the Sith and the entire galaxy, but he also hated himself the most. ROTS novelization also sums up his thought process when he discovered padme died.
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you made me find this story it was so good !
To me Darth Vader is the greatest tragic villain of all time. He’s a monster who’s done unspeakable horrible things but under his cybernetic veneer is a broken man who lost literally everything and was turn essentially into an attack dog. You can’t help but pity him.
I never really considered Vader evil even when I was a kid. I just viewed him as a guy just doing his job, albeit a rather unpleasant one. I mean, when running a galaxy-wide community, one needs a very firm grip on things.
@@Vigriff Vader definitely saw himself as that, too. He saw himself as someone who was carrying out his duties as the Emperor’s enforcer. Still, he knew that it didn’t excuse what he did and it’s pretty clear that he regrets turning to the Dark Side, especially the things he had to do in order to become a part of it.
@Anonymus X Meh, 😑. A guy with daddy issues because his daddy found a new favourite, is old hap. 😏😆
When you said "He was turned into an attack dog". Man, that....wow... I couldnt have said it better. Bravo
Poisened by immortallity, no more, no less, he is. He takes it for shure, and he rejects it. A lonesome of time,
so many stars, so many galaxies, would anyone understand him?
Maybe I read it in Legends, but when Vader wasn’t committing atrocities in the name of the Empire he’d go fix up his space ship, practice his skills, drink soup, and just weep alone in his mediation chamber.
And contemplate suicide almost daily.
In Legends my man was so fuckin broken; power wise and mentally...
I believe that's still in Canon like a lot of the stuff he does in the Vader comics ultimately just comes back to show that he was just a Broken Man
you forgot watching cooking videos on UA-cam and drinking himself (whisky) to sleep!
@@melonboi927 It's not. Canon Vader doesn't feel remorse or regret for his actions. As Lords of the Sith and the 2017 comics clarified, he felt fully justified in his actions to subjugate the Republic and destroy the Jedi. Anakin is the one who believed he needed to atone and wanted to die as penance for his crimes, but Vader's hate and will to live were too strong to overcome until Luke came into the picture.
Obi-Wan saw a brother in Anakin, but Anakin needed a father in Obi-Wan, a role that Palpatine was more than eager to fill for his own means.
altho it wasnt obi wan's fault, he wasn't supposed to be anakin's father figure, it was qui gon, killed on palpatine's orders who was, and he would have saved him from falling in my opinion. Anakin would never have needed a palpatine in his life.
@Zaemoncho I was about to say the same thing
@@Zaemoncho😊😊
@@Zaemoncho And it's precisely why I have and always will view Qui-Gon's death as the most impactful death in the Star Wars universe, as when Qui-Gon died at Maul's hand on Naboo, that sealed the fate of the entire galaxy and especially Anakin, the Chosen One. Might be why the music that played during their duel in the Phantom Menace was titled "Duel of the Fates".
@@Zaemoncho I call bullshit here. It very much was Obi-Wan's fault. Had he used that force speedboost they had used to escape the destroyer droids earlier, he would have been there to keep Qui-Gon from being killed.
"The last thing a young man with a troubled life needs is to fall in love with a woman he cannot be with". Thanks, I felt every bit of that.
Like John Hinkley, or Willy Boy, you could name others.
Khan makyr got you feeling down Marauder?
@@yadavragbir1208 Khan Maykr was the easiest fight ever.
Look at little Doom junior… gonna cry?
Oof
1:40 “have you heard the tale of darth plagius the wise?” “No, it’s not a tale other audiobooks would have told you.”
Perfect
Its where I'm from i think
With audible you can find out.
Thank God they have a novel called Darth plagueis.
You cheeky little.....
I love this comment so much x)
Reminds me of a quote from Jolee Bindo during the events of KOTOR.
"Love doesn't lead to the dark side. Passion can lead to rage and fear, and can be controlled... But passion is not the same thing as love. Controlling your passions while being in love, that's what they should teach you to beware. But love itself will save you... not condemn you."
Ultimately, it was love that enabled Anakin to finally overcome his inner darkness and destroy Sidious out of love for his son.
Someone should have told this quote to the Jedi Council much could have been avoided.
@@olliegodfrey482 They were told multiple times over several iterations during millennia of arrogance.
During Jolee's time specifically, Vrook wouldn't hear anything of it and just accused everyone he could of falling to the Dark Side despite there being no trace of darkness on anyone he came into contact with.
Once it got to the time of the prequels, Qui-Gon spent his entire life preaching this message to a deaf council and was forced to remain at a level of a Jedi Knight because of it. It's part of the reason Obi-Wan is canonically so strong - he was trained by someone who was stronger than most of the masters, ostracized along with Qui-Gon and was kept from advancing to the title of Jedi Knight until he was already stronger than almost every other Knight in the order.
Yes! Attachment to Padme didn't lead to his fall, the Jedi's bizarre and perverse way of life and total lack of empathy for a child not born into their system, combined with a brutally difficult life, combined with an evil man's machinations are what turned him. He deserves responsibility for his awful choices, no doubt, but attachment didn't break him, it saved him.
Luke's recognition of this, and choice to embrace it, was a clear rebuke to the Jedi of old. The message of those 6 films, to me, is that the rejection of love leads to corruption, and embracing it heals what is broken.
@@IanDoesMagicExactly, Qui Gon being the last true Jedi until Luke came along (from Legends and EU not the sequel trilogy), he understood that Jedi are supposed to care, to have compassion, empathy, and love. He was the one Jedi who could’ve helped Anakin because he was the only Jedi who had not given up on attachments.
@@jmwilliamsartAgreed Ben Skywalker said it best to Luke in the EU “That what attachment really is it not about loving someone,getting married or having a family it about if the bad things happen you become someone else mom wouldn’t want you to be like this.” I get what the Jedi coming from emotional attachment to someone lead them be vulnerable once that person is lost you feel every negative emotions through the force then you discover the dark side. Honestly I think the Jedi more worry about possessiveness that was Anakin big flaw with Padme and lust for power to control life it nothing wrong with making connections and bonds to others it about letting go of them when circumstances is out of your control.
Vader is terrifyingly sad. A honorable man whose ideals and values turn him into a monster.
Exactly, even in Love. Ying Yang. Good in everything. Bad in everything. Its a perfect balance, but u can only choose one side. And that is the hardest and most vital decision of all
The right people didn't or couldn't help him.
@Taramafor Haikido Luke was only able to help Vader because he was biologically his family. The feelings that they had with each other were only possible due to two things that were similar between them: same upbring as a Jedi and blood bond. Leia, for example, was already too imerse into the Rebel's ideology to have a strong bond with Vader enough to bring him back, Luke wasn't.
@@reubenmorris487 Yes, but in their actions or lack of, his friends were already "helping" him to turn to the dark side. For example, you can feel Anakin's disappointment when he realizes how limited Yoda's knowledge is regarding his issues, even though he is the most powerful Jedi in the universe. Palpatine, on the other hand, pushed all Anakin's right buttons to look more mature than Yoda. A Sith proving to be more mature than a Jedi through the comprehension of Anakin.
Super honorable the way he murdered those children with extremely little hesitation
Anakin just wanted to fix things. He was a gifted mechanic and he fixed his speeder. Then he wanted to fix the slave situation both for his mother and slaves in general. Then he wanted to fix his visions about Padme dying. And finally he wanted to fix the galaxy into his point of view.
if you ignore the recent movies you could say he did fix the galaxy
wow... well said!!
@@balls2jawls he was like indirectly child of prophecy lol
@@balls2jawls Absolutely. He brought balance so you might say he fixed the Force.
@@orarinnsnorrason4614 Anakin had a choice to balance the force in solitude as shown in the CG Clone Wars series but if he didn’t then the universe would have a darker future.
In the legends there is one dude Vader genuinely liked, he was a member of the Stormtrooper Army, and he nearly sacrificed his own life to save Vader's in an assassination plot. Vader held heavy respect for this man, and when he was severely wounded, Vader ordered the priority of bringing the man back to good health and let him leave the army to spend time with his family, in fear of losing his only true friend in the empire.
That's pretty sweet
@@KaminoKatie yeah, I think it was the author's attempt at showing the Skywalker in Vader, that his humanity wasn't totally lost to the dark side, and it's nice to see.
Ohhhh that story yeah i love that one!
@@mariosgamingmemechannel2033 it's one of my favorite legends Vader stories that I wish was canon
Erf Laukeaf, if I remember correctly
"Anakin would stop at nothing to save me, because he thinks i would do the same for him" ...that made me feel sad. Kenobi seems to be implying that he wouldn't. Certain aspects of the Jedi feel just as wrong as sith traits. Especially that serene indifference.
I think Obi-Wan would, or thought that he would, but he felt very ashamed of that thought. That was the real tragedy. He truly loved Anakin but he was ashamed because loving him went agains the JC, so he never told Anakin, perhaps assuming that he knew anyway, while Anakin needed words and reafirmation due to his tragic past as a slave.
This is taken from the ROTS novel, I don't care if Disney denies it is canon, I love that novel and it give us a lot of insight into the characters
@@AnzuBrief It's an amazing book
I think that is part of the theme of Star Wars once you get in the Original Trilogy. Luke going to Cloud City was the RIGHT course of action but was against everything the old Jedi stood for. Luke, by his actions, changes Obi-Wan and Yodi as well. I think by the end of ROTJ, they are starting to see how flawed the old order was. Luke was destined to start a new and better Jedi order that embraces positive feelings such as love when used in the right capacity. The Sequels kind of hint at this but ruin it with the entire Kylo Ren story. Sequels were kind of a disaster so I don't consider them cannon anymore.
@@AnzuBrief books based on the movies are canon, EU books are not
@@andrewft31 The Revenge of the Sith novelization is still Legends unfortunately. It was made with the Clone Wars Multimedia Project, The Clone Wars' predecessor, in mind (which is also unfortunately, Legends)
PROXY: "I hate being him."
Galen (Starkiller): "I think he does too."
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@@LordWyatt 69 now
Goes to show how much Galen learned from Vader himself
That sums up Vader perfectly. He hated himself more than anyone else in the galaxy. He knew that he made bad decisions and was responsible for everything that happened to him, but was too prideful to admit it.
@@speedracer2008 I think we admitted it to himself, tormented himself over it even. He just didn’t know how to deal with it in a positive way. Or maybe I’m just projecting my story onto him… 😅
I also think that Mace Windu saying “he is too dangerous to be left alive” just like Palpatine said to Anikin at the start of the movie is extremely important. This proves to Anikin that the Jedi and Sith are fundamentally the same, just as Palpatine suggested, so why don’t chose the side that would save his Wife.
Mace was right. Palpatine started a war and played both sides which amounted to millions of deaths and galactic wide destruction. He manipulated anakin since he was a child and did it again against Mace.
@@Jalenlane93 True, but maybe if Mace struck to the Jedi code and followed the rules instead of proving himself a hypocrite, Anikin would not have lost faith in the Jedi and stuck with them.
@@Jalenlane93 point being mace windu confirmed palpatine was right even if he used the information manipulativly. When push came to shove the jedi were hypocrites and even the most devout would break their code if pushed. Had mace simply acted like a jedi in that moment palpatine wouldve been undone and the empire never rises
@UnholyWrath3277 Mace is still human at the end of the day he made a mistake. Palpatine caused a war, which resulted in galactic wide damage and millions of deaths. He is the ultimate evil, and Mace just witnessed him kill 3 other jedi.
@@Jalenlane93 it was a mistake. It just happened to be the most hypocritical and overall worst mistake of his life
Has anyone ever really thought that poor R2 is literally the only one who knows pretty much the absolute truth about the events of the skywalker saga that citizens in the galaxy would never be privy to. Mind boggling honestly.
Yeah imagine the knowledge he knows of all the events that took place
his memory was wiped though, so he could not reveal the past
@@Chereb I believe it was C3PO that got his memory wiped post-Clone Wars, but R2D2 retained his memory
R2 was one of the biggest heros thruout the whole series.
At the same time, he’s the most vulgar too
Obi Wan doesn't care about Anakin at first, he only trains him out of a promise to his master. It wasn't about Anakin being the chosen one, or the fact that he cared about Anakin, he just did it for Qui gon. obi wan was a brother to Anakin, but Qui gon would have been a father. And that was precisely what Anakin needed.
Agreed. Anakin comments twice how Obi Wan is the closest thing to his father during Attack of the Clones, but it’s clear from the beginning to the end that it was more of an older brother looking after an orphaned boy due to a promise to his father rather than a direct choice. Obi Wan wasn’t ready for an apprentice and Anakin quickly latched on to Palpatine as a praising Father figure.
Qui Gon was the perfect Jedi and the perfect one to train Anakin😔👌rip
This is so true. I will add, Obi Wan was fairly young himself. So he was practically given an adopted little brother to raise, while basically being a kid himself. Obi Wan did the best he could with what he knew.
Unfortunately Palpatine eventually filled that father roll.
@@danthemancushecan well so did mace windu you would think that anakin would dislike him but in truth the case is diffrent he actually looked up to him and yoda in a way it was what palpatine said when he meant about making a choice mace windu was everthing anakin wanted to be someone who controls his inner darkness and channels it and powerful enough to defeat palpatine or choose the dark side ov er it he did it for padme and you know how that turned out,
@@thephoenix4093 mace was like that hard to impress dad
Luke: "You're coming with me, I'll not leave you here I've got to save you!"
Anakin: "You already have, Luke. You were right.. You were right about me.. Tell your sister, you were right"
Luke: "Father, I won't leave you"
then becomes free for once in his life
I always thought the British grammar construction of the line "I'll not leave you here" was so strange, being acted by a Californian, written by a Californian and a Floridian.
@@lwrncschmchr right? I was in middle school the last time someone used the word I’ll and not in the same sentence. Probably in a literature book.
Something interesting happens if you combine the 2 Prophecies of the Sith and Jedi which IMO is the same prophecy but incomplete with specific parts only give to the Optimistic POV of the recipient.
The Prophecy of the Chosen One and the Sith'ari:
A Chosen One shall come, born of no father, The Sith'ari will be free of limits, The Sith'ari will lead the Sith and destroy them, The Sith'ari will raise the Sith from death and make them stronger than before, and through him will ultimate balance in the Force be restored.
@@lwrncschmchr They are humans of the past its not weird
Love this series. Darth Vader was my favorite character as a little kid
I want to see vile eye cover Johan to see what he would say about the character
Masked man ?
I was not expecting to see you here bro
Me too ☺️
as a kid, it was Luke. as an adult, it's Vader.
Crazy that Anakin started as a slave with a dream of freeing everyone but ended up enslaving the entire galaxy to Palpatine’s rule
See. You got it right.
Internalized oppression, like what Fanon wrote about
Actually he ended up freeing everyone.
Ironically the empire outlawed slave rings
The galaxy was free and prosperous under empirical rule….
The really heartbreaking part was the novel telling us that the only reason he even desired the tank of Master was to gain access to the texts in the Jedi archives that only those I'd Master-rank and above could access. He didn't care about the tank at all. He cared about what that rank would let him access in his quest to save Padme.
One of the main reason why I like Darth Vader is that we all can end up this way. Good in the beginning but lived long enough to see yourself to become a villian. His story is very relatable in real life
And also one of the cruelest movie villains of all time that I felt sympathy for and cried when he died because under all of that hatred was still a loving father.
Yeah we can relate to Anakin.
Yes I too would kill everyone I knew and grew up around because I love a woman!
@Aquarium Gravel You are literally killing children? What do you mean how much do you "really love them". If you can even say you'd do that you need help, Padme stopped trying to understand Anakin as soon as she heard what he did. I can love someone with all my heart and know when to let go, if you can't do that and proceed to do ANYTHING then you need help.
I get that reference, that’s a Batman dark knight line talking about Harvey dent isn’t it?
At this point, my goal in life is to write a villain who ends up on here.
I was on here first
As an aspiring writer myself, I confess this is my goal too!
@@senatorsheevpalpatine3712 Knock knock
@@Nicholas_Chen_ who’s there?
@@senatorsheevpalpatine3712 It's the police ma'am.
Vader is quiet, solemn, speaks through actions, speaks through his presence. Something few movie villains actually do. They compensate with story, with dialogue. Not with Vader. That's what makes him so scary.
Exactly. Even though Vader is very intelligent and has a sophisticated way of speaking, he’s also kind of a man of few words and a lot of action. Vader can be polite, but he’s mostly very blunt. Which makes sense given he’s mostly a military man. He doesn’t feel the need to mince words or prattle.
"What could you possibly hate enough to defeat me?" - Maul
"Myself." - Vader
I know the comic probably isn't canon anymore, but I personally think this single phrase uttered by Vader peers incredibly deep into the complexity of his character. It's one of my favorite Vader lines, bar none.
What comic is this?
@@Domainz77 It's a Legends comic (Star Wars Tales #9) where a Dark Side cult made a doppelganger of Darth Maul who Vader fought. Vader was off-balanced in the beginning, but quickly overcame the vastly inferior Sith. The fake Maul taunted him with the quote the OP typed out, and Vader responded thusly.
If the comic was produced by Marvel its canon since Disney also owns marvel.
@@ReckOne559 I mean, yeah, but Disney has retconned a couple comics I believe (feel free to correct me if I’m wrong)
This is Legends and 2008 TCW isn't Canon to Legends so Maul is dead (it officially is, but it retconned a lot of good previous lore so I tend to ignore it).
Darth Vader is a character made entirely by loss.
From Qui-Gon Jin, Anakin lost his Innocence
From Shmi, Anakin lost his Mercy
From Ahsoka, Anakin lost his Trust
And from Padmé, Anakin lost his Compassion.
His greatest weakness, Love, became his only salvation.
Such a great villain, damn.
Nice analysis.
and from Obi-wan, Anakin lost his legs
@@Vizgar
Okay. I laughed.
I hate myself for it, but I wish I'd thought of that one.
And from his unborn child, Anakin lost his hope.
However that hope came back in a unexpected way only to save him.
Beautiful summation of a complicated character.
One other thing to consider from ROTS is after he executes Dooku, Palpatine of course justifies it with “he was too dangerous to be kept alive.” Later on, when Windu had subdued Palpatine and said the same thing about him being too dangerous to be kept alive, that likely was Anakin’s final deciding factor. He had already been teetering strongly toward the dark, but in his mind, that moment proved that there was no difference between the two, so screw it...why not turn to the dark if there’s even just a small chance it could save his wife?
I'm like number 68. Someone tell me when like 69 comes along.
Great point!
What makes Vader interesting to me is that his conflict it's not only psychological, but also physical. Man he's the strongest and most gifted force user, so anything he feels can affect him in a way no one can imagine. So, feeling pain, sadness and sorrow can make him fall in the dark side heavily and drawn in his emotions (anger, rage, hate) more than anyone else, with a consequence also in his mind. I hope my point is understood
Vader is the force's golden goose
This how people with borderline personality disorder struggle throughout their life.
i actually never even thought of that
I can see the psychological aspects of Anakin/Darth Vader. But I think he had spiritual problems too. Something the Jedi couldn't help him with. The loss of his limbs must've been a spiritual battle long after the wounds had healed. Darth Vader commited many evil deeds, when he imersed himself more and more in the dark side of the force.
I love how you do not sugar coat it. We love Anakin, we see his suffering. But in the end he WAS evil (And I literally mean the end) and all of his suffering comes from his own choices. The best part of his character? He is FULLY aware of it.
Yeah. He knows that his actions resulted in his downfall and the horrible life he lives as Darth Vader, but believes he’s gone too far to turn back.
"What can you POSSIBLY hate enough to destroy me??"
"Myself."
Yup Vader is man of self loathing
He’s a tragic villain because he literally had nightmares that he would lose everything but it’s too late for him because it was his fear that drove it into it happening
I’d rather have Anakin / Vader’s Empire compared to the Jedi .
Anakin’s character arc is basically:
Being a kid
Teaching a kid
Killing kids
Having kids
Dying for his kids
That's a BRILLIANTLY succinct summary.
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Bravo!
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17:12 Which makes it more tragic when Obi-Wan sees Anakin as beyond redemption on Mustafar and leaves him to burn. Him and Yoda both saw Vader as irredeemable and hoped Luke would kill him without finding out who he was.
When you actually realize the true depravity and zealotry of the jedi.
@@1x93cm when you realize how shitty force sensitive people are out of pure nature
@@1x93cm No wonder why Anakin told Obi Wan, " From my point of view the Jedi is evil." It kind of proves his point.
To be fair, Anakin did kill children. So I can see why Obi-Wan left him to burn.
While both Yoda and Obi-Wan saw Vader as irredeemable by the time of RotJ, your claim that they hoped Luke would kill Vader without knowing the truth is wrong as shown by RotJ:
Luke: "Unfortunate that I know the truth?"
Yoda:"No! Unfortunate that you rushed to face him... that incomplete was your training. Not ready for the burden were you."
"Anakin Skywalker was weak, I destroyed him."
I almost did first
@Count Dooku Hipster Dooku be like...
@@senatorsheevpalpatine3712 Vader wrecked your punk ass. You were nothing but another obstacle.
"Then I shall avenge his death"
"Revenge is not the Jedi Way."
"I'm no Jedi"
He seems to have multiple personalities
You know Christian is a terrific actor and doesn't get the recognition he deserves. He emotes soo well that it's basically uncanny
Yeah, no one was able to make those lines work. It wasn’t Christensen fault that Lucas couldn’t write good dialogue.
He's an amazing physical actor, love his intimidating looks when he becomes Darth Vader. Kinda makes me wish for a live action "what if?" Type scenario, with Hayden Christensen as Vader post Mustafar, sans the suit
I think one of the best things about Anakin's story is about it being a coming-of-age story, but this time, the protagonist didn't turn out a hero
I think it's important to note Vader killed out of anger and necessity. Sidious on the other hand was a total sadist who killed for fun and perverse enjoyment, Vader did not. So he was not pure evil. Also Vader was still capable of love whereas Sidious never loved anything but himself, even gleefully killing his own family.
I hate Anakin/Vader to the core cause he murdered those innocent kids in cold blooded & he picked a old man(the Emperor) over his own wife which is so bad as a husband where he could of have pick her instead,
And even he force choked his pregnant🤰 wife with their twins & that’s why I don’t feel sorry for Anakin/Vader whatsoever,
Vader/Anakin is not a tragic character that other people think he is cause he chose the dark side by his own free will like he was not mind control,
I am glad that Vader/Anakin ended up becoming the Emperor bitch ass slave for over 20 years until Luke free his bitch ass from his sugar daddy/master.
@@baileygilbert4766 Well Sidious killed his entire family for fun and didn't give it a second thought. Anakin was tormented by his actions even while he was Vader. And you can see by the look on his face before he's about to kill the Younglings he was not having a good time, he was following orders.
He picked the emperor because he thought that would save her and when he thought she was dead, he went all-in with the emperor.
Don't get me wrong Vader was an evil fuck but he was not pure evil, Sidious was pure evil. Taking over a galaxy for the purpose of inflicting suffering on trillions for personal enjoyment is pure evil.
@@baileygilbert4766 I don’t think you watched the movies
Chaotic vs Lawful Evil
Evil is evil, greater, lesser...you know the rest.
You know you made a God tier villain when just hearing his breathing makes just about everyone absolutely lose their mind.
Absolutely. Vader terrified me as a little 9-year-old girl in a dark theatre in 1977, & 45 years later he still scares me.
“You have analyzed me for the last time, Vile Eye.”
Anakin's fall to the dark side was more of a tragedy than a fully thought out decision to follow the path of evil. He wasn't some power hungry psychopath who cared for no-one, but rather it was his will to protect Padmé at all costs and manipulation of Palpatine that was his downfall.
Eh he uses that to cover his lust for power. He always craved power but he at one point genuinely believed in the teachings of the Jedi and republic. While padme definitely pushed him in the wrong direction it's not like he didn't have the craving to prove everyone wrong about him that palpatine exploited
His love for Padme and loss was just a part of his path downwards
@Aquarium Gravel palpatine didnt really know about the vision in fact it was revealed that palpatine was going to use padme in the future when he reaches his potentional to keep anakin from killing him he would use padme as a hostage indicates he didnt knew she was going to die and in fact hoped to change it would also buy vader's trust in him.
@@thephoenix4093 The idea is he planted the dream THEN gave him a way to remedy it through the dark side.
he just like me fr fr
"You loved her. You will always love her. You could never will her death.
Never.
But you remember . . .
You remember all of it.
You remember the dragon that you brought Vader forth from your heart to slay. You remember the cold venom in Vader's blood. You remember the furnace of Vader's fury, and the black hatred of seizing her throat to silence her lying mouth-And there is one blazing moment in which you finally understand that there was no dragon. That there was no Vader. That there was only you. Only Anakin Skywalker.
That it was all you. Is you.
Only you.
You did it.
You killed her.
You killed her because, finally, when you could have saved her, when you could have gone away with her, when you could have been thinking about her, you were thinking about yourself. . .
It is in this blazing moment that you finally understand the trap of the dark side, the final cruelty of the Sith-Because now your self is all you will ever have.
And you rage and scream and reach through the Force to crush the shadow who has destroyed you, but you are so far less now than what you were, you are more than half machine, you are like a painter gone blind, a composer gone deaf, you can remember where the power was but the power you can touch is only a memory, and so with all your world-destroying fury it is only droids around you that implode, and equipment, and the table on which you were strapped shatters, and in the end, you cannot touch the shadow.
In the end, you do not even want to.
In the end, the shadow is all you have left. Because the shadow understands you, the shadow forgives you, the shadow gathers you unto itself-And within your furnace heart, you burn in your own flame. This is how it feels to be Anakin Skywalker. Forever . . ."
ArchDemonDemiurge,
Wow! FABULOUS. Who wrote this? This is phenomenally deep and well written.
There's a whole theory of the psychology of being evil implied and suggested, touched upon ...introduced... and opened up here.
(When I was planning to go to grad school, one of the areas of focus I was seriously considering was Theories of Evil. Not out of a fascination with evil so much as a desire to bolster or Fortify good.
THIS passage would be an EXCELLENT Example of a theory of the psychological causes of Evil and the psychological / subjective Experience of being evil. The Psychology Of Evil.
How better to promote good than to understand what causes Evil. And if the Evil suffer from what they've become-- what better warning against the lure of evil. Or the power of evil to capture a soul unawares--in that flash of rage or selfishness.)
Take action based on only your own self interest. Only your own feelings. You would even kill the one you love most. Becauyes in the moment that you're consumed by the dark side-hyphen-you love no 1 but yourself. Then the moment is over and now you are doomed with no 1 left but yourself. Let the shadow, I'm thinking this corresponds very well to the Union idea the shadow, Is the only thing left in existence that understands you and forgive you. Your own shadow is all you have left. The only companion.
That! Is! Deep!
If it were poorly written it would still be deep. But this was very well written! Beautiful.
…So?... I need to know who wrote this…!…
@@judeannethecandorchannel2153 it's from the revenge of the sith novelisation, I believe it was written by Matthew Stover
@@SebasTian58323
Wow!
I was just coming here to revise my comment.
--The stuff about my ideas for great school should be near the end.
But hey Thank You!
The is the Second long passage from the Novelization that I've heard that's Knocked Me Out with how unique and well written it is.
(The first one was...~"the dark side is always there, under the your chair, under the table at which you sit, under your bed sheets." That last image Scares me. It is eery. Like the monster under the bed. But it's the evil that will wrap around you when you slip under your sheets.
😬😬
Erry and even frightening.
After that... it's in the sun light; it's under your feet...
What intense images. In other words-- we're Surrounded by our capacity for evil. *That's*--damn. I would hate to view my reality that way. But it might be true--!?--
So I know the author is A Good Writer.
But like I said above-- this passage isn't just good writing, it suggests a whole chain of ideas about How you turn evil, Why you turn evil, What it feels like to be evil, and what allows you to stay evil. (You think you have nothing left but your own dark side to understand and comfort you.)
Wow!
I've never read a Novelization. And I'm not really reading these days-- which is kind of shameful cuz I'm a writer. But of late I'm too much of beleaguered Cyborg to read! Instead I'm rubbing this phone with my finger so the time (swift typing I mean) 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️😄🤷🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️.
But This Novelization would obviously be one to read! Maybe I should buy it and leave it on a side table calling to me to "unplug and read an amazing book!" 🤭😄
Anyway--THANK YOU.
What an amazing passage. And very thoughtful of you to answer my question.
It seems a few people are still following this thread though they commented months ago. That's why Star Wars fans are Awesome. We have longer attention spans. 😉 Because we care. This stuff is worth caring about!
Poor Anakin...🥀🌸✨️🥀...
@@judeannethecandorchannel2153it's especially impactful when read after reading the rest of the novelisation. It does stray from the movie a bit, but not much, but it goes into great detail about how most of the characters are feeling.
"Vader wants us All dead!" Leia
"He doesn't want you all dead ! He's looking for someone named Skywalker" - Lando
Me- he's looking for himself
Unknown plot twist for all involved in this scene...Leia is actually named Skywalker
@@ReckOne559 I hated that they didn't explore that and had Yoda say a very ambiguous line about there being another.
@@killerchipz6412 and then Luke figures it out on his own, forcing us all to crawl down the incest rabbit hole that nobody can unsee
I think an interesting character to analyze would be Walter White, and breakdown his transformation from average man to manipulative kingpin.
Griffith from berserk also
Yes
Less obvious choices are more fun. God only knows how many videos on Walter white there are. He is fascinating but I think his descent was shown so we'll and over so much screen time there isn't anything really hidden there
YASS!
Say my name!
Vader is such an emblematic villain in literally any story, the prequels doing him more justice in the long run honestly. The comics and novels give his character so much more depth beyond the screen, only _true_ Star Wars fans understand the immense respect and reverence for the character. He was never truly the bad guy. He was twisted and malformed into one, through pain, suffering, and deceit. His character goes beyond the black and white morals of good versus evil. He is a husk of a man fighting for something that he probably once truly did believe in, but now uses it as an outlet for his pain. The story of Anakin Skywalker is up there with the likes of Hamlet or Macbeth, in my estimation. The films moved me to tears when I was a child, seeing Anakin hurt the people he once loved to serve a greater purpose that turned out to be a massive lie.
Good video. Damn good.
This video really highlights the mistake a lot of Star Wars fans make when they say it’s so laughable and ridiculous how quickly Anakin turns evil and to the dark side in Episode III. It was not quick at all. People who think this weren’t paying close enough attention.
In terms of just the film itself he does turn pretty quickly, which is what some people have an issue with. However, you have to take into account the overall story of the previous two films to see what Lucas was going for in building up to Anakin's fall.
@@Darthpsychonis Yeah most people don't seem to look into the context of the first two films, or sometimes even ROTS, when they don't mention how Anakin's views on the Jedi, goverment, and other things included his turn as well. Not just Padme's death.
@Taramafor Haikido Oooookay......
Totally agreed. Anakin's story which included the massacre of the tuskens shouldn't be overlooked.
@@chriswilson3126 Still the Tusken's did torture his mother and for what reason? They weren't civilized people like Mandalorian seems to show them as being. I wonder what the reason was for them taking her, tying her up and doing whatever they did because she has a lot of lacerations. I'm not saying how Anakin killed them was right but I feel like it wasn't unjustified. It's interesting to think about and then think about other heroes who have gone on revenge massacres.
He is one of the most cruel villains of all time and at the end I still cried and felt sympathy for him. Under all of that rage was still a loving father who had lost everything.
Also what’s important note is that he quite literally time wise brought balance. Half of his life in the light, and the other in darkness.
the coolest character ever. literally a cyborg wizard who only feels suffering and hatred
cyborg samurai wizard
"The Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out from the universe. You, my friend, are all that's left of their religion." - Grand Moff Tarkin
Darth Vader will be remembered for a long time and George Lucas deserves credit for the making of this timeless story.
George Lucas had nothing to do with the vast majority of stories that Vader appears in.
I really like this analysis. The Jedi did play a huge part in Anakin's transition into Vader- they were egotistical, suppressive of natural emotions, and complacent. He chose his path to the dark side, but it was from his understanding of the shortcomings of both sides was he able to fulfill his prophecy to bring balance to the force.
Theres more than one way to skin a gundaark, just because Aniken turned evil doesn't mean that was the only path possible. Maybe he was actually meant to take Yoda's place? Someone claiming they need knowledge of both sides of the force is really just using that as an excuse to be evil, for their own reasons.
Perhaps people use their fear of something they don’t understand as an excuse for inaction under the guise of some superior sense of morality. Immersing yourself in evil is dangerous- likewise choosing to remain entirely ignorant of your opposition to place yourself higher on the totem pole is equally dangerous.
Anakin's turn to the dark side started once he saw what they did to Ahsoka. He struggled as hard as he could to keep his faith, but it was eroded over time thanks to their actions. His subsequent interactions with them cemented the beginning of the end after they denied him the rank of Master as what was basically a punishment for the past.
Right and her leaving just set it I'm stone when they denied him being a master man I shocked he didn't quit too
Wrong, we are told exactly why he falls to the dark side in RotS:
"I will do whatever you ask."
"Just help me save Padmé's life. I can't live without her."
Anakin falls because he decides to be selfish.
@@Fark2005 Yeah, only a Sith deals in absolutes, and THAT is why you're wrong ;)
@@RogueBoyScout I'm NEVER wrong ;P
@@Fark2005 The prequels make it seem quite sudden, but in the Clone Wars it's clearly a long and slow descent into the dark side.
i made an essay once about vader, and i said the reason he wanted luke to join him was because he wanted a family, he wanted the reminder of the woman he loved, of padme.
I want to read that essay!
This video: *is longer than the other star wars videos*
My brain: Perhaps you think you are being treated unfairly?!
One of the first scenes he’s in he is literally chocking another man to death
His Fallen Order cameo is one of his best appearances imho. He just straight up murders the final boss you just spent an hour and buckets of sweat and blood beating 2 seconds in, then throws a jedi master away with a flick of his wrist. If you even try running, you're insta killed.
@@edoardoprevelato6577 No health bar😹😹
Where are those transmissions you intercepted
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THOSE PLANS?
@@edoardoprevelato6577 then immediately begins to pick up the floor, teleport and the holds the force of *several miles of water* with his mind, damn such a good cameo and best representation of Vader
You mean choking a terrorist to the galactic empire?
Im of the personal belief that if the Jedi’s views weren’t so dogmatic, and allowed for Jedi to form attachments freely and without scrutiny, Anakin would have never felt so conflicted about his loyalty to Padme and the order and would’ve been able to discuss his visions publicly, allowing him to not fall to the dark side
But if the Jedi weren't so dogmatic, there would have been no need for Anakin in the first place. He's a tool of the Force, remember? If there is no need to correct the Path of the Jedi then there is no need for Darth Vader thus Anakin would never have been born.
You can blame Yoda for that. Yet another of his many many failings.
That's probably one of the reasons Luke's New Jedi Order wasn't structured exactly like the Old Jedi Order. He wanted to learn from the mistakes of his forefathers, to which he did.
@@danielgiovanniello7217 The Jedi were too extreme, much like the Sith....two sides of the same coin.
@Dustin W Great analysis. The only way to achieve true balance is to embrace the dark as well as the light. The dark side isn't evil, it's evil people using it for their own lust for power.
Fucking A yes Darth Vader is one of the most iconic/tragic villains in movie history !
I've been so waiting on this.
@@redstaplerguyforlifepastpr5763 yeah me too.
Sad most people don't know cause it's "Star wars"
It true what they say "Only the kindest heart is capable of the utmost cruelity"
I think Palpatine persuading Anakin to cut off Dooku's head was another way that he curated and developed Anakin's negative traits. Anakin, at first, wanted to spare his life and bring him to court/trial, while Palpatine wanted to show him how immediate action can simplify things and bring to a quick resolution to issues, instead of drawing things out with proceedings to just maybe get to a conclusion eventually. Palpatine wanted to show Anakin that HE had the power to make decisions to resolve situations, and leaving that responsibility to someone else meant he wouldn't always get the desired outcome that he thought was right. Just masterful manipulation by Palpatine.
He treated everyone with care and love, but the Jedi returned his feelings with disdain and disregard, and because of their treatment for the chosen one, their savior's love turned to hatred and they had invited their own destruction unto themselves.
They really did.
That was light..
Anakin to Yoda: "I'm afraid of someone I love dying"
"fuckin get over it dude"
Anakin to Palpatine: "I'm afraid of someone I love dying"
"I've heard of ways to save people from death, wanna find it?"
gee what side is someone going to choose?
@@NYG5" yes but at what cost anakin you're a good person don't do this." Padme amidala
Even then Anakin still did his duty and told Mace Windu that Palpatine was a Sith Lord, who immediately went on to exclude Anakin from the arrest even though being close to Palpatine he might have aided in resolving things peacefully and then decided to for no reason arbitrarily execute Palpatine completely disregarding Anakin’s pleas.
Babe wake up, new vile eye just dropped
Me: (*snorts and pulls Cheetos dust stained one piece suit off of my bruised body* )
Babe wha-
(*looks at the screen and the warmth in my cheeks slowly returns*)
(*I slam my face into the screen*)
It’s truly the saddest story in the galaxy when you really go deep into it he just wanted to get away from slavery as a child just to be manipulated into a slave for the emperor for the rest of his life
He feared and hated slavery/slavers instead of loving those who opposed it and tried to destroy slavery instead of supporting freedom. That, I believe, was his mistake.
The clone wars series makes Darth Vader’s journey even more tragic.
I can understand the conflict of Anakin better the older I become. I often feel as if I'm being pulled this way and that by many things, and unsure if I'm still the same idealistic person I was when I was younger. Does anybody else here feel like they're losing who they used to be, who they want to be?
yes, the older i get the more i understand villians, i no longer have those rosy color glass of a child anymore
yes because our planer is increasingly evil and controlled by tyrants that make us do things that are bad in order to survive
The impending sorrow of age begets regret; as it ever was, so too, can calcify to bone. Beware the shards.
Definitely.
I broke in middle school. I am constantly finding myself thinking of increasingly dark thoughts. The only thing keeping me grounded is my family. I don’t know where I’d be if I lost them.
0:07 LOL the way this was cut was so funny to me. The “hello everyone, welcome to analyzing evil” as Vader strikes his saber and the guards freak out and shoot 😂
This is a great analysis of how Anakin's infinite capacity for greatness is a double-edged sword. He might also have borderline personality disorder as stated by Cinema Therapy. He has really bad attachment issues.
As the saying goes, those who are heartless cared too much. Indeed, Anakin values people than principles, he is so fiercely loyal to the people he is attached to, that he turned to the Dark as a Sith because of Padme, and returned to the Light as a Jedi because of Luke (Side point, I think out of their children, Luke resembles Padme while Leia resembles Anakin, and passed this onto Ben Solo/Kylo Ren).
Many argue Darth Vader and Anakin Skywalker are two people. While I sort of agree to that, I see them as the same person but influenced by two different philosophies - Anakin, by nature and his childhood as a slave, is easily influenced, always the slave, if you will, he has the will to rebel, but his nature is always a follower. That is why he is so conflicted and angry as a Jedi, and so cold and distant as Vader with no apparent friendship, and so frustrated with each order, all thank to the influence/teaching of both the Jedi and Palpatine of forbidding attachment/friendship in each case, and how he couldn't truly find himself. Indeed, he brings the balance to the force, by being the most unbalanced entity in himself. It is tragically ironic.
I am curious of what the Analysing Evil episode for Kylo Ren would look like now!
What a load of Crap!
Bro went crazy on that
I don’t think Kylo ren has enough of a character to analyze
@@jaybatt4507 No it's pretty spot on. Though I could care less about Kylo.
Phenomenal analysis of Anakin's life and characterization. The musical ambience, extensive research and detailed narration make this one of my favorites so far. Great job! Can't wait for the Emperor.
It's really funny how much Rise of Skywalker ruins Anakin's arc. Genuinely impressive, honestly.
Poe Dameron: Somehow, Anakin's arc was ruined.
Star Wars fans: *groans*
Anakin redemption was him saving his son not killing palpatine or completely the prophecy of the chosen one.
@@markr3730 Anakin’s redemption was him saving his son, turning back to the light side, killing Palpatine and fulfilling the Chosen One Prophecy. The story of Star Wars is about the tragedy of Anakin Skywalker and the Skywalker family not some random OP Scavenger who has no prior training and is somehow more powerful than more than half of the Jedi and Sith ever shown in Star Wars.
@@Shark_King325 first off Rey isn’t that powerful at all she only won thanks to kylo either be very wounded physically and spiritually or holding back and won against palpatine because she was amped by the Jedi which after that she died literally.Two I would not take the chosen one prophecy at face vale prophecy in general are very vague and very misleading.plus i find it very odd you say it ruined considering darth cadeus and darth krayt and darth talon happen.
@@markr3730 Are you totally going to ignore that she used Jedi mind trick without even knowing what force was? Even if she's not all powerful or Mary Sue, she's still just a plot device of a character for writers.
"It was foretold that you would make a video. Our long awaited meeting has come at last."
"The circle is now complete, when I left you I was but the uploader, now I am the viewer."
@@thewhitesword1336 Only a viewer of Evil
"Fear is the path to darkside, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering..."
Flip the hate and anger and you’re good
@@gamingwhacka1782 mmmmmmmm right you are, failed to quote I have....
Fine it is
Wy am I hearing Yoda???
Force ghost
I love how the "hello everyone" is perfectly timed for when Darth Vader turns on his lightsaber 🤣
The most tragic thing is that Anakin falls into the Dark Side, and Palpatine's machinations, through love. The emotion that should have lifted him up, dragged him into the darkest deeds.
Darth Vader is probably the most loved villain ever.
Anakin was tricked and trapped. He says to Luke "you don't know the power of the dark side" and "I must obey my master" which implies he is trapped and can't disobey the Emperor. It's quite sad because the only time he can is when he dies, Palpatine is too distracted to control Vader and he takes his chance but Palpatine kills him. It's a Romeo and Juliet story with Anakin and Padme. "Across the stars" sure is similar to "Star crossed lovers".
Me: reads title
Also me: "I've been looking forward to this."
As have I.
@@senatorsheevpalpatine3712 my powers have doubled since the last time we met count
This is where the fun begins
@@Rdc_Dom hello there!
@@Rdc_Dom Good. Twice the pride, double the fall.
I find it fitting how Anakin, the chosen one, is almost always enslaved.
Whether it be by the Hutts, Jedi, or Sith, he's always trapped in bondage.
And if he was free? Well, he'd still be a slave to the whims of the Force.
The Force has a will of it's own that we can see bits and pieces of; nudging events along so that things play out in a specific way.
If Anakin ever left the Jedi order to be his own man, the Force would just toss him through a different meat grinder until he's compliant.
Kreia had the right idea. The Force has a will of its own and that is abhorrent to me
Reminds me of eren
@@vanjabulajic1618 What's so abhorrent about it? Stop being dramatic
Anakin can't be a slave to the force if he also wants to do it. The circumstances of Anakin's life and the people within it are what shaped him into who he is.
@@alfalldoot6715 It's the quote from Kreia... Just because they didn't use quotation marks doesn't mean you can't look it up
I looked this up last night and was disappointed to see there was no Analyzing Evil for Darth Vader because he is one of the most if not the most notorious of villains in the Star Wars Universe and I get on UA-cam to see this. I’m going to have to subscribe, thank you so much.
I feel like the only thing that can possibly explain Anakin's willingness to kill the Jedi younglings was a certainty they were already as good as dead. The clones had the building surrounded and all inside were pinned down. They had no shortage of troops. Anakin likely saw it as an inevitability. But once he'd done the deed, he likely continued his crisis of identity. If he could kill a child to save Padme, and fight back against a Jedi Order he no longer believed in, he could do anything for that purpose. I think that is what finally made him mentally capable of attacking Obi-Wan.
Also, he might have felt that since the only person whose judgement could be trusted was his own (which he repeatedly displayed in the Clone Wars), that it was necessary he maintain a position of power in whatever came after the Republic. And we know from the Mortis storyline that he's willing to fully embrace the Dark Side if it means staving off something worse.
Its crazy to me that Vader was only in his early 40s when he died. Yet his legacy impacted the galaxy for all of time
It's insane to see how manipulation turned him from anakin, the loving and loyal man to vader, a ruthless monster who doesn't care about who he kills or what he has to destroy in order to give him power.
"I hope so, commander, for your sake. The emperor is not as forgiving as I am." -Darth Vader
A very obscure juxtapose aspect of Anakin vs. Vader is the popularly unknown incident of Anakin's youth when he saved the life of a Tusken Raider. This event, which takes place prior to the arrival of Qui-Gon Jinn and co., is depicted in the novelization of "The Phantom Menace." The event doesn't really change any aspect of Anakin/Vader, as described in this video, I bring it up mostly because so few people either know about it or mention it.
This was a good, in depth video of Darth Vader, who is definitely my favorite cinematic villain.
Darth Bane to Darth Vader: Your hate is a mask, it is fear that drives you. Deep down, you are still a child in the desert.
I recommend going back and viewing the original trilogy with this perspective: Anakin was a man who felt great affection and respect for those around him as he fought alongside them in the Clone Wars. This can be seen in Vader as, despite his reputation, it seems like he will look for any opportunity to compliment his subordinates when he perceives them as doing a commendable job. To me at least, it seems like he's desperate to feel the comradery and mutuel respect he so often had the opportunity to experience in his previous life.
I love the mention of his reverence of the force post Vader suit. It's like he's replacing all that pain, and convincing himself: "Oh well, I'm the one doing this but it's just the force working through me." His faith in the force is just another attempt of his to justify his actions.
Vader is the force's golden goose after all
I always loved how everyone just ignores that Padmé is about to eat a fkin pear with a knife and fork XD
The great downfall of Anakin is the lack of introspection. His relation to feelings. He hardly really question his feelings, and is always quick to act on them. He can’t make the difference between personal and important.
That’s why Palpatine plays him like a fiddle… but also why that backfires in Palpatine’s face at the very end.
You should definitely do a video on Griffith in honor of Kentaro Miura and the brilliance of the nuance in storytelling in Berserk.
I very much want to, I might try and squeeze it in next month. But no promises.
Agreed.
@@TheVileEye Thank you for even thinking about doing it.
@@TheVileEye Even if you have to take a while to do it, I think its the sort of project that ought be done.
@@TheVileEye take all the time you need for it. Your work is amazing
Vader has one of the most epic lines ever imo and it's not "I am your father".... in the comics he is surrounded and threatened with capture or death if he doesn't surrender and Vader responds with "All I am surrounded by...is fear and dead men" before proceeding to kill 2 entire divisions of storm troopers commanded by tarkin
Can you do one on Saruman and Melkor from J.R.R. Tolkien's works?
As Iv gotten older I am more impressed with the design of Vader once he is put into the suit. He is physically and metaphorically a robot. Cold and unfeeling towards everything and has no purpose. Only because of his son does his humanity slowly come back by an inch
Vader is one of the most compelling characters ever he’s just a sad angry man that has nothing left but his hate. He has nothing left but to serve his master basically as his bitch. And as said in the video this is the read why he’s one of my favorites
The brightest light casts the darkest shadow.
You're god damn right.
I'm glad you mention the prophecy. It seems to me to be the most overlooked element of his downfall.
"You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain…"
I hope to God you’re going to make one for Papa Palpatine.
Ha, I was first
@@senatorsheevpalpatine3712 don’t lose your head.... things may get out of hand.
Papa Palps* lol
Palpatine = daddy 🥵🥺
There really isnt a lot to say about him. He's bad because....because he's bad. That's pretty much it.
You should make a video of Darthleen Kennedy and Lucasfilm. They're villains in their own right.
You get a like sir!
hahahaaa!
Darth Kennedy has been dethroned
"It is the way"
Bro 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Why Lucasfilm? George never did shiiiiiit boi
The beginning cracked me up I'm sorry. The lightsaber and the "hello everyone" followed by the rebels shooting at Vader
Ah, yes🤣
"Hello everyone"
"OPEN FIRE!"
"Guys, no I'm just saying hell-oh, fuck it"
Definitely up there with one of the most tragic stories ever. Revenge of the sith is easily one of the best star wars movies.
And also one of the cruelest movie villains of all time that I felt sympathy for and cried when he died because under all of that hatred was still a loving father.