Analyzing Evil: Ramsay Bolton

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  • @krism.6598
    @krism.6598 Рік тому +3988

    You know a character is evil when even his actor was waiting for the writers to kill him off.

    • @daniellirette7226
      @daniellirette7226 Рік тому +885

      I saw an interview with the actor and he mentioned fans coming up to him in public telling him how much they love his character and his response was usually “wtf is wrong with you?” 🤣

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 Рік тому +194

      And by GRRM’s logic, the more evil a character, the harder it is to write them off.

    • @wormfood83
      @wormfood83 Рік тому +157

      Or when you take your mother to the screening and she cheers when your character dies. Didn't happen here, but it did happen to Paul Reiser when his character Burke in Aliens got killed.

    • @GonzoShitcock
      @GonzoShitcock Рік тому +2

      ...and you know a show is good when at least 3 characters appear on "Analyzing Evil"...

    • @SirBallsDeepOfHouseManthrust
      @SirBallsDeepOfHouseManthrust Рік тому +59

      @@daniellirette7226I don’t see what’s so wrong with loving a fictional character. Like, he’s a fake character in a fantasy world. If you went up to Pol Pot or something and said you’re a huge fan that would be different.

  • @Bombadil-ez9ns
    @Bombadil-ez9ns Рік тому +3014

    Ramsay was just as evil as Joffrey, but a lot scarier. Joffrey was a sniveling coward. But Ramsay was eager to fight his own fights. And he was terrifyingly good at manipulating his opponents.

    • @mars7304
      @mars7304 Рік тому +299

      Ramsay is a grown man fueled by a family obsessed with power as a means to an end. Joffrey was a boy king with narcissism. The two are not the same.

    • @invisibleman4827
      @invisibleman4827 Рік тому +72

      Joffrey is someone who is so ott and larger-than-life that there's something kinda camp about him, while Ramsay is a more grounded brutal thug, and feels more real.

    • @Bombadil-ez9ns
      @Bombadil-ez9ns Рік тому +38

      @invisibleman4827 Joffrey was based on the real life Roman emperor Caligula. (Personally, I thought they made Euron Greyjoy over the top and campy. It was tough enough to keep their villains realistic as long as they did.)

    • @jameslough6329
      @jameslough6329 Рік тому +47

      @@invisibleman4827 I didn't find Joffrey campy. He was an immature and sociopathic teenage boy put in charge of a kingdom that he clearly didn't have the responsibility to rule. You also have to keep in mind that mental illnesses such as ASPD weren't recognized or treatable in the time period that Game of Thrones was set in. In addition, given how bloodthirsty Joffrey's family was, it is heavily implied that his sadistic and sociopathic tendencies were encouraged rather than reprimanded. I guarantee you there are people in real life who would act in a similar way to him if they had the power he did and a lack of any treatment options for their mental illnesses.

    • @invisibleman4827
      @invisibleman4827 Рік тому +4

      @jameslough6329 Fair enough, he obviously is cut from the same cloth, it's more that he's very exaggerated in a way that we don't really see day to day mostly, but Bolton feels more real.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Рік тому +2132

    "If you think this has a happy ending, you havent veen paying attention" that line still gives me chills

    • @JaketheJust
      @JaketheJust Рік тому +91

      Yeah, the ending was disappointing. But Ramsey’s ending was satisfying

    • @CaitiffFTW
      @CaitiffFTW Рік тому +21

      ​@@Darius-_No. They had the original ending, as planned by GRRM. I think GRRM did it as a test for his originally intended conclusion.
      That's why the sixth book is taking so long. He has to figure out how to unforeshadow the things he's already placed into motion.

    • @papadoc331
      @papadoc331 Рік тому +4

      @@JaketheJust i think it was pretty satisfaying

    • @franciscvmpbell
      @franciscvmpbell Рік тому +39

      @@CaitiffFTWthis isn’t true. He said it in interviews, that if the fans find out the butler did it, and everything points to the butler doing it, then he’s not gonna change that because it’ll undo everything done before. It doesn’t matter either way, it’s not what happens, it’s how it’s executed. And we don’t know to what extent they stuck to his story points. I personally believe aria will not kill the night king, there’s no night king to kill, there won’t be a pointless expedition north to bring back a walker, Jon won’t be sent back to the non-existent nights watch, etc. a lot of things won’t happen like they did in the show. They changed many things already back when they were sticking to the books and George was writing for the show. The books are a different entity, and should be treated as such.

    • @Tarnished-bn5gq
      @Tarnished-bn5gq Рік тому +6

      It sums up the whole series tbh. You weren’t supposed to expect a happy ending, it’s Game of Thrones ffs.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Рік тому +1544

    "i prefer beign an only child" more than a depraved reflection of jon, Ramsay was the living breathing embodiment of all negative steriotype about bastards in westeros

    • @BRouge
      @BRouge Рік тому +16

      Wouldn't he be a reflection of Gendry? Since Jon isn't one?
      Ned save the bastard of Robert - Ramsey kill Ned true Born son
      Ramsay raped Sansa
      Gendry had Arya's consent
      One serve the Lannister the other run from them...

    • @alilweeb7684
      @alilweeb7684 Рік тому

      ​@@BRougeall show bullshit.

    • @satinarmor
      @satinarmor Рік тому +37

      @@BRouge I think the comment is based on the book versions of the characters where Jon isn’t confirmed to be a targ yet

    • @genesisSOC
      @genesisSOC Рік тому +19

      Fun fact: the actor who played Ramsey was almost chosen to be Jon Snow and even had auditioned for it

    • @my_girl_seraphine5294
      @my_girl_seraphine5294 Рік тому +4

      @@genesisSOC
      Now I’m trying to picture the actress switching their roles to each other

  • @emissaryofthecows3389
    @emissaryofthecows3389 Рік тому +768

    Your explanation of Roose's mentality versus Ramsey's was very enlightening.
    It makes sense to describe both as monsters, but where Roose is a well dressed vampire, able to walk among men with a mask of normalcy, Ramsey is a gluttonous ghoul, unable to appear human if he were even bothered to try.

    • @darth856
      @darth856 Рік тому +92

      There is even a conversation between them in the books about this. Roose chides Ramsey for being too open about his true nature. "Your amusements are your own, I will not chide you on that count, but you must be discreet."

    • @JohnSmith-mz2zo
      @JohnSmith-mz2zo Місяць тому +2

      Eloquently put

  • @AnotherGenericUsername
    @AnotherGenericUsername Рік тому +1145

    Ramsey Bolton was a very savage character. His actor did an absolutely amazing job showing off his brutality.
    Amazing work as always 🎉

    • @oghaze9318
      @oghaze9318 Рік тому +36

      You know an actor is talented when he can go from socially awkward panty sniffer to brutal bdsm lover

    • @sebastianprimomija8375
      @sebastianprimomija8375 Рік тому +6

      @@oghaze9318 Are you talking about Simon Bellamy from Misfits? Yeah Iwan Rheon was great in that.

    • @Banquet42
      @Banquet42 Рік тому +11

      It's impossible to do Nathan's delivery justice but I laughed at this exchange made me laugh.
      "INo offence but you look like you'd have sex with your sister for a piece of cheese."
      "I don't even like cheese."
      "That makes it even worse."

    • @tamiwatchesstuff
      @tamiwatchesstuff Рік тому +10

      True. My one gripe for the casting was that he was way too handsome for the part. Ramsey was known to be very unattractive in the books. Other than that he was great in the role.

    • @charlesfarmer5250
      @charlesfarmer5250 Рік тому

      Yes, his actor definitely did an awesome job

  • @tonybippitykaye
    @tonybippitykaye Рік тому +711

    Ramsey is one of the few characters in fiction that inspires nothing but disdain and horror for me personally. Joffrey was a monster, but I’d go as far as to say Ramsey was FAR more vicious and cruel in just how much pain he inflicted and how much joy it brought him.

    • @трыцтытыдыц
      @трыцтытыдыц Рік тому +114

      Basically, Joffrey is a sadistic spoiled child, but Ramsay is cold-blooded, cunning, full-grown monster.

    • @MeatCatCheesyBlaster
      @MeatCatCheesyBlaster Рік тому +42

      Well Joffrey never got to be as old as Ramsay, but he surely would have been just as bad

    • @benguensche
      @benguensche Рік тому

      Disdain

    • @tonybippitykaye
      @tonybippitykaye Рік тому +17

      @@трыцтытыдыц agreed: Joffrey was a spoiled brat with no restraints and unlimited power; Ramsay was a born bastard living in the shadow of his fathers sins and embodying everything that made him awful, but FAR worse

    • @tonybippitykaye
      @tonybippitykaye Рік тому +1

      @@benguensche Thank you for the correction friend.

  • @andu1854
    @andu1854 Рік тому +290

    Sansa reminded him
    His hounds were starving and the “oh uh” look on Ramsey before they rip that little homicidal maniac was the best

    • @carynfisher9463
      @carynfisher9463 Рік тому +29

      I love that moment in the show, because it was so great for Sansa to have such a badass moment, especially over Ramsay, but when Sansa tells him "You haven't fed them in seven days, you said it yourself" bugs me a tiny bit. Sansa wasn't there when Ramsay says that. I can tell myself that Jon must have told her about it, but why would Jon have done so? It's sloppy writing, a thing that plagued the later seasons of GoT.

    • @homelander39
      @homelander39 Рік тому +7

      Except that she wasn’t at the meeting anymore when he said that…scene was great though

    • @leonrobinson8180
      @leonrobinson8180 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@carynfisher9463 Word of mouth is a thing you know

    • @carynfisher9463
      @carynfisher9463 4 місяці тому +2

      @@leonrobinson8180 I do know that. And I have previously dismissed this little writing error with the exact same logic. And of all the writing issues in the later season of GoT, I could probably let this one go. But it is a truism of books and television that, except in certain circumstances, if it didn't happen on the page or on screen, then it didn't happen. You have to at least reference it. And they don't here. It's minor and one could overlook it by saying "oh someone told her", but it's also another indicator of the lazy writing that I'm not the only person to have called out.

  • @milesrinesmith141
    @milesrinesmith141 Рік тому +549

    When Sansa fed Ramsey to his dogs that moment was fantastic.

    • @s66s46
      @s66s46 Рік тому +6

      Which we saw more of it

    • @AppleGonCrumble
      @AppleGonCrumble Рік тому +25

      No it wasn't. It was plot armor garbage that even landed them in that spot. Ramsey won the battle of the bastards and if DnD hadn't bought into main character syndrome Jon would have died there and Ramsey wouldn't have been captured. Sansa riding into save the day with little finger only happened because the writers forgot how long it takes to travel places. It was a trash ending to a great character and anyone who enjoyed it is literally the reason why the show declined so bad.

    • @BlazedAzn
      @BlazedAzn Рік тому +8

      Not realistic. Honestly, if that fate happened in the actual book-based off the character of Ramsey-he’d enjoy it to the point where it’s unsettling. He’s a demon.

    • @obiwon1237
      @obiwon1237 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@AppleGonCrumbleI thoughtit was a disapointing end to the character.

    • @amortuus_
      @amortuus_ 10 місяців тому

      ​@@AppleGonCrumblebased

  • @teearat
    @teearat Рік тому +235

    I have been a fan of Iwan Rheon since Misfits. When they announced he would be Ramsey. I was like, how can this man with these big expressive innocent eyes play such a monster? I gotta see this. There is no way. I was completely shook and terrified. His portrayal was outstanding.

    • @TheMalmut
      @TheMalmut 11 місяців тому +10

      Having recently gotten into Misfits, I am impressed by his acting skills, nailing such polar opposites.

    • @Rielle369
      @Rielle369 3 місяці тому

      Literally why he’s my favorite character. I adore that actor.

    • @flowgangsemaudamartoz7062
      @flowgangsemaudamartoz7062 Місяць тому +1

      He is also in "Those about to Die"

  • @GoodMorningBeautiful4
    @GoodMorningBeautiful4 Рік тому +274

    I don't think Lady Hornwood chewed off her fingers out of starvation. The Northmen are the ones who believed this was the reason she did it, but they know little of Ramsay at this point in the story. Ramsay's favorite method of torture is skinning a person's finger and leaving them in agony for days. I think it's more likely that Ramsay had her fingers skinned, and she chewed them off to end the pain. If it was done out of starvation, why did she stop at her fingers?

    • @AwesomeMusicLady
      @AwesomeMusicLady Рік тому +34

      It’s a detail you notice when you read the books more than once. You miss it the first time.

    • @97CelticPredator
      @97CelticPredator Рік тому +30

      Holy hell, I've read them so many times and just realized it thanks to you. I just took the word of Ser Rodrik, but it makes totally sense that he would think that. He would have no idea that anybody would be so evil and skin people's fingers and let them suffer like that until they chew it off. I have to check the wikis to see if anybody else had that theory.

    • @ajb117
      @ajb117 11 місяців тому +9

      This point is even more emphasized when in the POV of Theon he remembers how Ramsey flayed a couple of his fingers, and he begged them to cut them off just to stop the pain! I believe he was even punished for trying to chew them off but I don’t fully remember.

    • @MickeyP1230
      @MickeyP1230 8 місяців тому +11

      The starvation route never made much sense to me. If I'm hungry enough to eat a part of myself I wouldn't go for the fingers, they don't have meat on them. 🤔

    • @brendano4196
      @brendano4196 7 днів тому

      Wow, great catch and something that I always thought odd myself but wasn't clever enough to put together. Anything Ramsay related is just vile lol.

  • @LycanVisuals
    @LycanVisuals Рік тому +472

    Him wiggling that sausage in front of Theon will always be one of my favorites moments of him lol

    • @HumanHamCube
      @HumanHamCube Рік тому +40

      And makes eye contact the entire time he's eating it like a slob.

    • @Captain_Insano_nomercy
      @Captain_Insano_nomercy Рік тому +29

      Yet we can't say the R word...weird double standards

    • @tylerhill40
      @tylerhill40 Рік тому +7

      His name is Meat xD

    • @KazuyaKai923
      @KazuyaKai923 Рік тому +42

      "noo it's a pork sausage, do you really think I'm some sort of a savage?" 😂

    • @yourguyeli
      @yourguyeli Рік тому +1

      Feel an itch?

  • @jrgenvellesen7800
    @jrgenvellesen7800 Рік тому +247

    Iwan Rheon did a fantastic job in bringing this monster to life. Truly the Bastard of Bastards!
    Would be fun to see a video on Krampus!

    • @crylec6534
      @crylec6534 Рік тому +10

      It crazy he was trying to get the role of Jon Snow. I cannot imagine.

    • @ToeKnife166
      @ToeKnife166 Рік тому +4

      @@crylec6534Iwan could have pulled of John, he can play a softer loveable character too.

    • @crylec6534
      @crylec6534 Рік тому +1

      @@ToeKnife166 Perhaps, but mentally picturing Iwan as Jon is hard since I think of Ramsay.

    • @AdoreYouInAshXI
      @AdoreYouInAshXI 10 місяців тому

      He did a good job if you've never read the books before watching the show. Unfortunately for me I had a completely different mental image of Ramsay based on the description of him and his actions (many of which aren't known in the show), and Iwan Rheon came off as more of a sadistic little hobbit than an intimidating, evil and twisted monster like the book version is.

  • @MDFT2000
    @MDFT2000 Рік тому +120

    FINALLY
    For my money, Ramsay is the scariest character. Embodiment of pure evil. Somebody who doesn't want to kill you, but subject you to far, far worse things than death.
    A captivating performance really does go a long way.
    Looking forward to your Euron video now

    • @PolishGod1234
      @PolishGod1234 3 місяці тому +1

      The Mountain for me was the scariest character. Pure evil psychopath + huge and strong as Hell, granted immunity by Lannisters to do whatever he wants.

  • @daniell1483
    @daniell1483 Рік тому +108

    Ramsay is one of the most fascinating villains of ASOIAF. Nobody really understands what kind of beast he is until it is far too late. This is best exemplified by the scene where Roose presents Cat with a strip of Theon's skin (flayed by Ramsay): Cat wants to treasure the macabre trophy, but she resists the impulse. She thinks Theon killed Bran and Rickon, so we understand how she might delight in Theon's suffering. And yet, it was Ramsay, not Theon, who put Winterfell to the sword and burned the Stark fortress. Ramsay's brutality led to the unraveling of Stark loyalists in the North, enabling the Red Wedding in the first place.

  • @GG-xx9ep
    @GG-xx9ep Рік тому +290

    *The whole world*
    "Joffrey is the most despicable and hateful character ever."
    Ramsay : "Hold my sausage, Reek."

  • @dlbarnes
    @dlbarnes Рік тому +125

    Ramsey Bolton, man, this character was on another level. Keep up the great work

    • @mars7304
      @mars7304 Рік тому +1

      ​@@voidw4lker is this a troll? A Song of Ice and Fire is not a Christian story.

    • @mars7304
      @mars7304 Рік тому +10

      ​@@voidw4lker the book has multiple religions, incest, murder of multiple children, implications of beastiality, and occult practices.
      If you're some devout Christian, you won't like the series. Sorry.

    • @mars7304
      @mars7304 Рік тому +3

      ​@@voidw4lker yikes, gonna block and move on. Not the reply I was expecting.

    • @madman00774
      @madman00774 Рік тому +5

      @@voidw4lker Makes sense since you're a Christian. Forgot to mention how realistic Game of Thrones portrays your religious world with High Sparrow and his little cult being one of the worst people on the entire series!

    • @mars7304
      @mars7304 Рік тому +3

      ​@@Darius-_ anti-theism is fine in the face of centuries of religious theocratic rule we've seen in the real world. High Sparrow is shit compared to Melissandre, the Faceless Men, or any other religious stand-in GRRM included.

  • @rikacanon87
    @rikacanon87 Рік тому +91

    I remember binge-watching this series and missing Joffery. That is how bad Ramsey was in the series. He makes the Ice King look like a princess.

  • @danieldeclue1466
    @danieldeclue1466 10 місяців тому +21

    😂"There's a STARK difference between Ramsay and his father." Well put, literally AND figuratively.

  • @multimediafan6777
    @multimediafan6777 Рік тому +225

    Ewan Rheon's portrayal of Ramsay was chilling and deeply disturbing... One of the best villains in recent media👏👏👏

    • @AdoreYouInAshXI
      @AdoreYouInAshXI 10 місяців тому

      Eh, he wasn't bad. But his portrayal was nothing like the book version. Honestly wasn't the best casting decision. Show Ramsay was like an evil little hobbit.

  • @madman00774
    @madman00774 Рік тому +218

    Love your video! Ramsay Bolton is the absolute definition of pure evil! His the only character in GOT that can make Joffrey look like a saint!

    • @darthsilversith667
      @darthsilversith667 Рік тому +6

      No.. they’re on the same level

    • @360entertainment2
      @360entertainment2 Рік тому +30

      @@darthsilversith667not really, Ramsay liked to toy with his captives and break them while Joffrey was more of a bully who could be manipulated!

    • @pysky4u
      @pysky4u Рік тому +14

      ⁠@@darthsilversith667eh, Joffrey is like the spoiled teenager that falls into a position of power. He acts solely on impulse

    • @yggdrasil2
      @yggdrasil2 Рік тому +5

      To quote Macabre Storytelling, Joffrey is Squirtle, Ramsay is Wartortle, Euron the Crow's Eye Greyjoy is Blastoise.

    • @darthsilversith667
      @darthsilversith667 Рік тому +4

      @@360entertainment2 Did Joffery not like to toy with his victims and break them?

  • @aliz4467
    @aliz4467 Рік тому +133

    Thank you for utilizing proper credits for the Artwork in this video. Crediting Artists for their efforts is so important. It's greatly appreciated.

  • @darthjamula
    @darthjamula Рік тому +21

    "This isn't happening to you for a reason. Well, one reason: I enjoy it."

  • @fabriziocolaianni7310
    @fabriziocolaianni7310 Рік тому +133

    I have always been intrigued by Domeric Bolton, Ramsay's older brother. There isn't alot about him but what there is speaks about him as a noble, well loved and honorable man, a man that even sadistic Roose Bolton admired. Unfortunately, we know what happened to poor Domeric

    • @HoldmyReek
      @HoldmyReek 10 місяців тому +17

      Poisoned by his enemies just like his father,RIP both

    • @vanbatenburg
      @vanbatenburg 7 місяців тому +4

      “Noble, well loved and honorable” - you’re basically describing a totally uninteresting character

    • @erinjean2695
      @erinjean2695 6 місяців тому

      You don’t have to be an evil rotten sadistic jerk to be an interesting person.

    • @HOTD108_
      @HOTD108_ 5 місяців тому +16

      ​@@vanbatenburg Yeah, because Ned Stark is so uninteresting. I'm sure nobody will care if he were to die suddenly. 🙄

    • @ledam2654
      @ledam2654 4 місяці тому

      ​@vanbatenburg Good characters don't have to be uninteresting, seems like you just glorify satanic degenerates.

  • @AlmostEthical
    @AlmostEthical Рік тому +139

    As with the Lannisters, the patriarch was focused and political while their heirs were twisted and self-indulgent.

    • @Justmonika6969
      @Justmonika6969 7 місяців тому +3

      I guess the lesson is that evil becomes more overt as it passes along generations. The fathers didn't teach their sons how to reel back on their violent tendencies and to pursue power at any cost, causing their sons to become sadistic monsters which is really sad in a way. Both Joffrey and Ramsey, technically speaking, were not born evil but made evil by their evil fathers. (And were promptly eliminated by their kin)

    • @AlmostEthical
      @AlmostEthical 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Justmonika6969 Agree, except that Joffrey was made evil by Cersei.

    • @CircusoftheMoon
      @CircusoftheMoon 4 місяці тому

      Just a bunch of nepo babies of evil.

  • @UnswimmingFishYT
    @UnswimmingFishYT Рік тому +193

    He's definitely one of the most evil characters looked at here. It would be challenging to write someone more horrible without essentially just writing a devil figure.

    • @benderthepirate
      @benderthepirate Рік тому +10

      So Euron Greyjoy.

    • @bloomins8088
      @bloomins8088 Рік тому +11

      ​@@benderthepirateI would argue that Euron was more of a shadow of Ramsay. More of a... joke? For lack of a better word.

    • @benderthepirate
      @benderthepirate Рік тому

      @@bloomins8088 Oh, I’m talking about Euron in the books. Show Euron and Book Euron are completely different characters. Show Euron is definitely a joke. Book Euron is not a joke at all. He is basically the Antichrist.

    • @munken7673
      @munken7673 Рік тому +1

      So Book Ramsay and Euron

    • @UnswimmingFishYT
      @UnswimmingFishYT Рік тому +11

      @@munken7673 When I say a devil, it seems like people misunderstand. I mean something like Molag Bal or Morgoth. The characters who in their own worlds are actually seen like the devil, and who pretty much just embody every evil thing that you could think of.

  • @Jackal_El_Lobo34
    @Jackal_El_Lobo34 Рік тому +62

    Ah yes the #1 most hatable villain of all time.
    From him cutting up Theon, to raping Sansa, to murdering John Snow’s brother, to murdering children, to feeding women to his dogs, and to slaughtering a mass of innocent people.
    The countless atrocities this murder has committed is repulsive.

    • @cholericimp1358
      @cholericimp1358 Рік тому +3

      I thought it was kinda based

    • @Justmonika6969
      @Justmonika6969 7 місяців тому +6

      ​@@cholericimp1358 The only based thing about Ramsey was how he went out: painfully ripped apart and devoured by his own dogs he starved. That's the one thing they got right in the entire later seasons.

  • @Mimi-cq4bg
    @Mimi-cq4bg Рік тому +86

    Utterly incredibly well written character and played so well by Iwan Rheon

  • @jodiweinstein858
    @jodiweinstein858 Рік тому +16

    Thanks! I have to say. I have been a member since the episode off Darth Vader. I finally am at a point where my wife and I can support the Chanel. No need to post this on your next video. Thank you again. You have opened our lives up to hundreds of movies that we now own.

    • @TheVileEye
      @TheVileEye  Рік тому +5

      My pleasure friend, and I appreciate the support! Never a requirement but I’m very grateful and humbled to have made any sort of impact on your lives.

  • @thedarkside314
    @thedarkside314 7 місяців тому +16

    That "I will always be a part of you now" is a horrifying line.

  • @Dreadfort-ho8lg
    @Dreadfort-ho8lg Рік тому +55

    THANK YOU! I waited for this character study for a year. I love this antagonist and Iwan Rheon Perfromance only made him better as a character. Littlefinger would be my other favourite pic for a take.

    • @AdoreYouInAshXI
      @AdoreYouInAshXI 10 місяців тому

      Iwan Rheon was great if you've never read the books before watching the show. Unfortunately for me he was nothing like what I envisioned. He felt more like a sadistic little hobbit than the terrifying monster than Ramsay was in the books.
      Edit - Roose Bolton in the show was also a huge letdown.

    • @Dreadfort-ho8lg
      @Dreadfort-ho8lg 10 місяців тому

      @@AdoreYouInAshXI I see your point. Making Ramsay less oger-like was a bolt move, but it fits with his tedency to not getting brutal directly, rather letting you feel the horror under the Surface. His unpredictability is my favourite Part of the book version and it was really brought to life by Rheon.

  • @mr.rodgers9891
    @mr.rodgers9891 10 місяців тому +10

    Torturing Reek to the point he is too afraid of harming Ramsey. That is power. That shaving scene still gets me.

  • @samrizzardi2213
    @samrizzardi2213 Рік тому +87

    I think I speak for many fans of traditional animation when I say *General Woundwort* from _Watership Down_ would be a great villain to analyse.

    • @toaderdaniel6790
      @toaderdaniel6790 Рік тому +10

      Woundwort!!! Now that would be something. I've only recently rewatched that animation. Just might be my favorite animation.

    • @admiralbutt
      @admiralbutt Рік тому +1

      Yes! Watership Down is fantastic!

  • @SUPERTROOPER89
    @SUPERTROOPER89 8 місяців тому +13

    In the epic words of a dinner guest 'a pure psychopath, so rare to capture one alive'

  • @JustTooDamnHonest
    @JustTooDamnHonest Рік тому +39

    Ramsey Snow/Bolton has earned his place among the most evil sadistic psychopaths on this channel and I'm glad that you did this one VE for he was one of my early votes for a video.

    • @stairwaytoheaven8
      @stairwaytoheaven8 Рік тому

      Nope, alex delarge was way more dereanged and psychopathic, he drugged, beat and raped 10 years old girls in the book

    • @josepha3805
      @josepha3805 5 місяців тому +1

      He's misunderstood, ultimately.

  • @davidknight2104
    @davidknight2104 10 місяців тому +11

    "Ruling by fear, that time is always short"
    Tywin Lannister entered the chat

  • @AtticusTheDeathMetaller
    @AtticusTheDeathMetaller Рік тому +42

    Him along with book Euron are the most terrifying Villains of ASOIAF.

    • @dukes1993724
      @dukes1993724 Рік тому +10

      The show portrayed Euron as a joke. No need for Vile to cover that disappointment lol

    • @AtticusTheDeathMetaller
      @AtticusTheDeathMetaller Рік тому +2

      @@dukes1993724 no lies detected.

    • @AdoreYouInAshXI
      @AdoreYouInAshXI 10 місяців тому +1

      @@dukes1993724 For real man. I was so excited for his entrance into the show (that's back when I still held hope for the show), and when he turned out to just be a horny pirate I was so disappointed.

    • @PolishGod1234
      @PolishGod1234 Місяць тому

      Roose is scarier than Ramsay, due to his apathy. Ramsay is a mad dog, Roose is a souless oppurtunist.

  • @jameslough6329
    @jameslough6329 Рік тому +60

    My dad was a huge Game of Thrones fan for a long time. He read all the books and watched the entire TV series (at least up to the travesty that was season 8). However, he said that the moment he started to drift away from the book series was when he read what Ramsay did to Theon.
    He said that he found that the books described Theon's torture and emasculation in such grotesque and sickening detail that he debated whether or not to skip the pages that described it. After having read the books for myself as of now, I understand what he meant...

    • @AdoreYouInAshXI
      @AdoreYouInAshXI 10 місяців тому +9

      The books don't even confirm that he was "emasculated", let alone go into it in detail.

    • @hypello9534
      @hypello9534 8 місяців тому +3

      Think in the books theon just shows up as reek, its never explained what ramsey does to him. If i remember correct

    • @celebritytarotreading3545
      @celebritytarotreading3545 7 місяців тому +2

      A crazy GOT fan and skipped all those part.. Too scary to watch or read

    • @AdoreYouInAshXI
      @AdoreYouInAshXI 7 місяців тому +1

      @@celebritytarotreading3545 you didn’t read the book. They’re not even in the book.

    • @celebritytarotreading3545
      @celebritytarotreading3545 7 місяців тому

      @@AdoreYouInAshXI No I did not read the part where ramsey was there cause I watched the series first. And even there I skipped everything

  • @tylerthompson1842
    @tylerthompson1842 10 місяців тому +8

    The actor who played him was so brilliant. All the villains in the show were brilliant but Ramsey was extra special

  • @kamalalsb7292
    @kamalalsb7292 Рік тому +113

    "No one else in the world could match his Sadism and cruelty" somewhere, Maegor the Cruel is laughing.

    • @satinarmor
      @satinarmor Рік тому +37

      Not excusing his actions at all but Maegor was somewhat a necessary evil to ensure the targs would survive, Ramsay was just evil

    • @kamalalsb7292
      @kamalalsb7292 Рік тому +16

      @@satinarmor yeah I've heard this excuse, but actually - no? He didn't really *solve* any of the problems that ensured the Targ dynasty survived, he just delayed them. Future generations and successors had to actually resolve the issues because his one response was brutal violence.

    • @thisisboxingproductions6894
      @thisisboxingproductions6894 Рік тому +9

      Euron Greyjoy enters the chat

    • @maxomat4319
      @maxomat4319 Рік тому +14

      @@kamalalsb7292 he broke the faith militants. They would have never stopped trying to get rid of the Targs, because of their incest.

    • @kamalalsb7292
      @kamalalsb7292 Рік тому +1

      @@maxomat4319 IIRC, he broke them *yes*, but the came back not long after and a more permanent agreement had to be established with the faith, specifically the whole law of Targaryen Exceptionalism? The problems with the faith only really calmed down THEN.

  • @cincinnatuscincinnatus8541
    @cincinnatuscincinnatus8541 Рік тому +43

    Such a great actor, actually both of them are great actors

  • @RyanRedfox
    @RyanRedfox Рік тому +44

    I’m far more interested in Roose Bolton than Ramsay in the next books. Ramsay’s behavior is abhorrent, yes, but it’s said that he is only the shadow of his father. Ramsay has all the classic traits of a sociopath or psychopath (whichever category he falls in) but Roose is almost inhuman. Not because of his cruelty but just…him. He speaks a hair above a whisper so that men quiet to hear him. He is cold and calculating and impassive to everything it seems. Ramsay is barbarically brutal and has a sort of low cunning, but let’s be honest he is pretty stupid. Roose Bolton has so much potential in the next book and I hope his character isn’t wasted as a one note bad guy.
    “Roose has no feelings, you see. Those leeches that he loves so well sucked all the passions out of him years ago. He does not love, he does not hate, he does not grieve. This is a game to him, mildly diverting. Some men hunt, some hawk, some tumble dice. Roose plays with men. You and me, these Freys, Lord Manderly, his plump new wife, even his bastard, we are but his playthings.”
    “Roose: Lord Tywin is many leagues from here. He has many matters yet to settle at King's Landing. He will not march on Harrenhal for some time.
    Aenys: You do not know the Lannisters as we do, my lord. King Stannis thought Lord Tywin was a thousand leagues away as well, and it undid him.
    The pale man in the bed smiled faintly as the leeches nursed of his blood.
    Roose: I am not a man to be undone, ser.”
    *AND MY PERSONAL FAVORITE QUOTE*
    “All you have I gave you. You would do well to remember that, bastard. As for this ... Reek ... if you have not ruined him beyond redemption, he may yet be of some use to us. Get the keys and remove those chains from him, before you make me rue the day I raped your mother.”

    • @atlas956
      @atlas956 7 місяців тому

      that’s a really interesting take… i suppose Roose is less predictable, like that, which makes him more terrifying? Like, at least with Ramsay, if you manage to stay out of his general vicinity, you’re safe.
      He’s not very hard to recognise as insane and dangerous (unless he actively tries to hide it).
      Roose is a whole different story, because there’s a method to his madness, and he has the intelligence, political skill and restraint that Ramsay lacks.

  • @Marconius-SPQR
    @Marconius-SPQR Рік тому +17

    Everyone HATES Ramsay Bolton, no questions. Kudos to the actor for an outstanding portrayal of raw evil.

    • @josepha3805
      @josepha3805 5 місяців тому +1

      I ❤ Ramsey Bolton

  • @tescoelvis4092
    @tescoelvis4092 Рік тому +10

    Been waiting on this specific episode a while, glad to see Ramsay being covered, without a doubt the most sadistic GOT character. Thanks again Vile Eye 🖤

  • @lindadeal3344
    @lindadeal3344 Рік тому +10

    Loved how you handled the situation of Ramsey Bolton!Basically something to get through and go on with your own life!

  • @我主也
    @我主也 Рік тому +12

    Just always remember: the son is a shadow of the father... Ramsay may be uncontrollable, but that only causes everyone to despise him - Roose does everything Ramsay does, and worse, but keeps his land and people peaceful and so doesnt get caught 💀

  • @SerMattzio
    @SerMattzio Рік тому +5

    I think I actually find Roose scarier, because he's just as capable of such vile, petty and deranged sadistic evil. Yet he's smart enough to appear like a pretty normal man outwardly.

    • @chandansimms9167
      @chandansimms9167 2 місяці тому

      Yeah ,in the show when he was talking with Robb and other scenes where he was present he just seemed like a reasonable and rationale guy until the red wedding where we finally see there’s much more too him

  • @AdoreYouInAshXI
    @AdoreYouInAshXI 10 місяців тому +6

    Thank you for covering so much of book Ramsay. I was worried this would only be about the show version. The book version is far more twisted, interesting and evil. He's also much more terrifying both physically and mentally.
    Now, please do a video on The Mountain That Rides, Gregor Clegane (and maybe even a dedicated video for Roose Bolton, as he has far more information than in this video as I'm sure you already know)!

  • @mikepaulus4766
    @mikepaulus4766 9 місяців тому +5

    My hatred of the greyjoys is so great that I think Ramsay is an anti-villain.

  • @laganas2008
    @laganas2008 Рік тому +16

    I felt so sad for Ramsay when his father was poisoned by his enemies.

    • @noegiard494
      @noegiard494 Рік тому +5

      me too, it's horrible that they would do that, imagine how Ramsay must have felt 😢

  • @carsoncasmirri3874
    @carsoncasmirri3874 Рік тому +7

    There is certainly something to be said about what people do when given power while containing that deadly mixture of ambition, viciousness and competence

  • @thepunisher6674
    @thepunisher6674 Рік тому +16

    I think Ramsey Bolton character is summed up by his actions in a dance with dragons being that he has to maneuver his way into being lord of the dread fort because his actions previously turned the people of winterfell and hornwood the places he’s lord of against him

  • @davidpumpkinsjr.5108
    @davidpumpkinsjr.5108 Рік тому +6

    Ramsey, like all fictional and real sociopaths, does not deserve sympathy for this simple reason: anger is natural but cruely is a choice.

  • @joshuaherbert30
    @joshuaherbert30 6 місяців тому +4

    In the books it's possible that Ramsay is gonna kill his father and half the northern lords by sabotaging the roof of the great hall burying them all under tons of snow.

  • @Tommykey07
    @Tommykey07 Рік тому +6

    Ramsay's brutality, in addition to the pleasure it brings him, seems calculated to so terrify his enemies that they will be afraid to oppose him. All stick and no carrot.

  • @pyroAdapt
    @pyroAdapt Рік тому +6

    Holy shit i didnt even realize he hadnt covered this character yet! This just made my day. I have something of a morvid curiosity when it comes ro torture because the idea of it terrifies me so much. Because of this ramsay is one of my favorite characters of all time.

  • @Michigander269
    @Michigander269 Рік тому +17

    I've been wanting this since you did Tywin Lannister! Great video thanks!

  • @Anonymiad
    @Anonymiad Рік тому +12

    best villain in the show. the guy just loved being twisted and it was a joy to watch

  • @DamningTooth1
    @DamningTooth1 Рік тому +63

    Was hoping to see the following covered one day:
    - Joe Cooper (Killer Joe)
    - Nino Brown (New Jack City)
    - Jake "The Muss" Heke (Once Were Warriors)
    - The Always Sunny in Philadelphia gang
    - more James Bond villains

    • @rowleyryan9025
      @rowleyryan9025 Рік тому +12

      Always Sunny Gang 😂

    • @DarrinKemp-lr1cz
      @DarrinKemp-lr1cz Рік тому +1

      Ernst Stavro Blofeld.

    • @ugoeze7360
      @ugoeze7360 Рік тому +1

      I thought Nino Brown was covered way back

    • @360entertainment2
      @360entertainment2 Рік тому

      The Always Sunny gang would be an interesting group to cover, they’re all morally bankrupt in their own ways!

    • @maelguiraud3568
      @maelguiraud3568 Рік тому +3

      @@rowleyryan9025 he's not wrong they were sick.

  • @Silvvrninja8
    @Silvvrninja8 Рік тому +1

    Super Thanks!

  • @TheDivingboy
    @TheDivingboy Рік тому +15

    If i am being honest, he was my favourite character of the entire show besides jon. Despite being bastards, they made it pretty far in the GOT universe while being hilariously fun and really enjoyable to watch.

  • @tf4665
    @tf4665 4 місяці тому +1

    Ramsey is an important character in the series because he encapsulates the dystopia that the world is. His house is built on the notion of maiming anything in their way and that's exactly what Ramsey does.

  • @andersfrieden567
    @andersfrieden567 9 місяців тому +5

    I thought the show's Ramsey was a disgusting psychopath, but then I read the books, and oh boy, his barbaric wild sociopathic behaviour there was even more terrifyingly cruel.

  • @dwigg7700
    @dwigg7700 4 місяці тому

    The actor that played Ramsey was incredible. Dude actually makes your skin crawl with a smile. Truly fantastic portrayal of a sadist.

  • @b_e_thecreative
    @b_e_thecreative Рік тому +24

    How the Starks and the North tolerated the Boltons for so long never made sense to me.

    • @CodeeXD
      @CodeeXD Рік тому +8

      Because they were almost as powerful as the starks if no as powerful as them. They had a war a long time ago and nearly destroyed each other. Owned a lot of land and the dreadfort as well as a lot of soldiers. Also iirc the annihilation of an entire house is pretty frowned upon

    • @mappingshaman5280
      @mappingshaman5280 Рік тому +3

      Because after the starks subjugated the boltons the boltons kept the whole flaying thing on the down low, only really being public with it when they were fighting stark enemies or more specifically in the main series.

    • @b_e_thecreative
      @b_e_thecreative Рік тому +1

      @@CodeeXD I get that but I felt that they had plot armor as a house in the north for the story's sake. If they were this big menace, it would have been the North's best interest to band together and get rid of them. Years ago.

    • @b_e_thecreative
      @b_e_thecreative Рік тому

      @@mappingshaman5280 They were killing Starks for years and years but the North always just let them stay until the main storyline. Yes they fought but if u flaying houses all this time and the most hated, I would think that wouldn't be tolerated in that world.

    • @mappingshaman5280
      @mappingshaman5280 Рік тому +2

      @b_e_thecreative they stopped killing starks after the greystark rebellion though and just kept on the DL. Besides there are other houses in other regions with similar histories to their overlords. House ulller and House yronwood to House martell, house Royce to House arryn etc.

  • @tammyventer5488
    @tammyventer5488 Рік тому +8

    When Ramsey says to Sansa: “you can’t kill me, I’m a part of you now.” I see a it from a different perspective. Had Sansa not been so brutalised by Ramsey, she would never have killed him by having his dogs eat him. When she did that, she allowed Ramsey to become a part of her because that is something Ramsey would do. She learned that from Ramsey. So Ramsey won in the end & he did become a part of her because she killed him the way that he taught her.

    • @bridgettawinchester3063
      @bridgettawinchester3063 Рік тому +1

      I assumed she was pregnant

    • @UnifiedEntity
      @UnifiedEntity 10 місяців тому

      Sansa doesn't carry on with senseless brutality to her enemies or just people in general.

  • @corgeousgeorge
    @corgeousgeorge 9 місяців тому +2

    The actor who played him is incredible. Before playing Ramsay Bolton, he played a kind, dim witted and super naive and unlucky neighbor to two old gay dudes on a sitcom in Britain, One of the main characters was Sir Ian McKellan. The role was so different and he behaved so differently that it took me a long time to realize it was the same dude who played RamsaY!

  • @RONGEE2099
    @RONGEE2099 Рік тому +8

    One of the greatest villains in tv history and one of my favorites. Dude was SADISTIC

  • @tomcross3000
    @tomcross3000 7 місяців тому +2

    There was a moment that stuck with me from the series where Sansa and Ramsay were conversing during a sort of struggle for autonomy.. Sansa gets his attention and he looks in her direction from elsewhere but it's like he was still elsewhere- blank expression, even mean looking.. then his eyes return to the present and he puts a smile on.. at that moment it was like the mask was briefly off, but also like he switched personalities when prompted, and it was such a high calibre bit of detailed character acting that i thought it worth a mention.

  • @meumnomen
    @meumnomen Рік тому +48

    Not a lot of fictional characters are as scary as Ramsay Bolton

  • @stevengarman4848
    @stevengarman4848 Рік тому +2

    Actually, if one studies human history; one will learn that most of the really sadistic dictators died as old men in their beds.

  • @jamescoughlan7175
    @jamescoughlan7175 Рік тому +11

    I'd love to see Little Finger or Book Tyrion. Both can be quite evil but nearly as plainly as Ramsey can be. Great video

  • @SpaceMarineOverseer
    @SpaceMarineOverseer 6 місяців тому

    You're 100 percent correct about Ramsay Bolton! Your analysis is so detailed and ACCURATE that it gives me NO DOUBTS about Dredford's Bastard's psychoanalytic description.

  • @jamesmanochio4392
    @jamesmanochio4392 10 місяців тому +3

    As scary as Ramsey is and as happy as I was when they killed him off... His "pork sausage" scene is easily one of the funniest scenes in the show and the actor was just a delight to watch in spite of what a sick and twisted bastard Ramsay was

  • @lawv804
    @lawv804 9 місяців тому +2

    I'd be willing to bet Ramsey's sadism isn't uncommon throughout the Bolton bloodline. Roose wasn't disturbed at all over what Ramsey did to Theon; he was only upset that he ruined a hostage he needed.

  • @rodneylove8027
    @rodneylove8027 Рік тому +9

    Damn! This one was overdue. I feel like you let off easy. Ramsay from the book and show is one of the most vile and evil characters I can think of (The Harkonens of Dune are runners up only by virtue of a dearth of materials describing their acts. Great video!

  • @nerdypythonmedia3343
    @nerdypythonmedia3343 5 місяців тому +1

    Very well said! I've often found myself comparing the Bolton duo and their individual approaches to evil while watching the show. There's a very noticeable distinction between them and you've perfectly explained it. Roose is DEFINITELY the psychopath able to deceive enemies while Ramsay is more of a sociopath. This was highlighted during the events of the Red Wedding as Roose was able to appear as a friend and even openly converse with Cat over dinner.

  • @andrewemerson6077
    @andrewemerson6077 Рік тому +26

    Loved the vid! Cannot wait for the next episode on Sauron. Could a potential episode on Ramses from The Prince of Egypt be seen on the horizon?

  • @dinorex3464
    @dinorex3464 8 місяців тому +2

    Ramsay felt like a man with Jon Snow's body and wit and Joffrey's sadism.
    One of the best-written characters in the series, in my opinion.

  • @feynmanstein
    @feynmanstein Рік тому +5

    Another great video Mr. Vile.. 12:35 A perfect example of this difference could be Tuco and Lalo Salamanca. One an unhinged sociopath, the other a charismatic psychopath.

  • @Skyumi-Vk
    @Skyumi-Vk 9 місяців тому +2

    Listens to the symptoms of ASPD
    "Ah shit I don't have a disorder, I'm just an asshole!"

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Рік тому +18

    Its always a great day when you update vile! Please do his father roose next😊😊🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @chrisb4131
    @chrisb4131 Рік тому +2

    Ramsay Bolton was one of those cartoonishly villainous characters that had zero redeeming qualities. Not a tear was shed.

  • @RoCkbunny769
    @RoCkbunny769 Рік тому +73

    Loved the actor that played him in previous shows, but he really showed his range as Ramsey. Made my blood boil watching him, which is saying something😂

  • @jdottdeestv8149
    @jdottdeestv8149 Рік тому +3

    Absolutely loved this episode. I know I've banged on about it the past but the flow of these videos now are so silky smooth my man. You've come far from when you first started and I love the fact you continue to improve, and make very engaging content. On top of that, I think your steady rise says a lot about this UA-cam channel. Grown organically, through sheer determination and dedication.

  • @stvinney
    @stvinney Рік тому +13

    I don't go looking for shockingly evil characters but in my experience Id say Ramsey is the most evil
    Just to witness the torture would have to make you sick and he actually carries it out with such delight

  • @ScrimmyBungus
    @ScrimmyBungus 10 місяців тому +2

    His dad was tragically poisoned by his enemies

  • @TheDeadmandillon
    @TheDeadmandillon Рік тому +5

    I don't know if it's because winter is coming, but this gave me a good chill down my spine. Definitely an evil bastard that I wouldn't want to be associated with.

  • @j.p.8811
    @j.p.8811 Рік тому +2

    Castrating Theon and breaking him to the point that he's no more than a loyal servant was the most brutal shit I've ever seen honestly, especially as a man I can't imagine the emotions you'd feel from being tortured and emasculated in such a way.

    • @flyingsky1559
      @flyingsky1559 11 місяців тому

      Jaime said it best "I'd make them kill me before that happened"

  • @joshuasteel3543
    @joshuasteel3543 Рік тому +3

    I have been waiting for this for a long time, thank you 😊

  • @No0dz
    @No0dz Рік тому +2

    The thing that impresses me the most about Ramsay is that the character would be just another of the monsters in the history of humanity. True, Ramsay is far more evil than the average man, but people who know history know where to find men as inhuman and as atrocious as this fictional character.

    • @odell4625
      @odell4625 Рік тому +2

      That is precisely what makes him so frightening to me. History is written by the victors, and how many of those victors are real life Ramsay Boltons. It is for that very same reason that I always thought Hostel was about the scariest movie I've ever seen.

  • @camakaze1330
    @camakaze1330 Рік тому +6

    Surprising to see the amount of Ramsey-Joffrey comparisons in the comments. Ramsey-Euron is much more interesting to me

  • @DereliqueMahBAWLS
    @DereliqueMahBAWLS Рік тому +1

    By far one of the most twisted characters I’ve ever watched on screen. The scenes he was in were some of the hardest I’ve ever had to watch

  • @mikeokol2822
    @mikeokol2822 Рік тому +45

    Ah yes Ramsay Bolton the only character more hated than Joffrey himself…he’s quite the Chad

    • @theblocksays
      @theblocksays Рік тому +6

      He's likely what Joffrey would become later in life had he not been poisoned at his age.

    • @CommanderShepard-wq3wo
      @CommanderShepard-wq3wo Рік тому

      Definitely not a chad. A sadistic sh*t stain is what he is

  • @lancelotdufrane
    @lancelotdufrane 6 місяців тому +2

    He was so Dark,… I couldn’t believe what I was watching. Completely shocking human being.

  • @IMXLegedaryBard
    @IMXLegedaryBard Рік тому +3

    You know you're an evil, cruel, twisted character when I have to say I tolerate Joffrey more than you. To this day, I never hated a fictional character more than Ramsay, which I'll give props to the actor for portraying this evil character too well

  • @Ozzy32195
    @Ozzy32195 Рік тому +1

    I've been waiting for this one, and it was excellent! This character disturbed me when I'd thought I was pretty numb to such things, one of the best of the worst.

  • @tylerhill40
    @tylerhill40 Рік тому +19

    He's the definition of evil.

  • @DJGuatemala83
    @DJGuatemala83 Рік тому +2

    Ramsay was one of my fav characters, because of the actor. Like Joffrey, he was sooooo good at being evil and beyond disturbing

  • @Unlucky_fool_1409
    @Unlucky_fool_1409 Рік тому +6

    you know a character is horrible when vile eye starts the video by saying that he could not mention some of the character's action in this video