@@sushiboiii So true... the video is so wrong it's unreal. Stage 1: ECU Tune Stage 2: Intake/Exhaust Modifications (including Turbo) Stage 3: Engine modifications (camshafts, pipstons etc.) There is no minus stages, there is no plus stages. What is this TikTok level of bullshit.
'Stage 3' modifications are pretty intensive bc a lot of parts you might not even think of can't handle the increase in power, which usually means if you're going through this much effort it's most likely a race/track build and so nobody would accidentally Stage 3
Stage is an overstatement in my opinion. I hate when I ask someone “whatcha got done to your car?” And they say something like “oh just a stage 1” like bro wtf is that. You gotta be more specific. Just tell me the mods and who makes them🤣
A stage 1 package at my shop is intake filter, back box delete and tune, a stage 2 package is upgraded intake manifold, decat pipes and sometimes injectors, stage 3 is absolutely anything goes to max out what your car can make or jsut throw a couple more parts on and make a little more power
dont teach people stages, stages are bullshit. arbitrary numbers made up by companies. you say a stage whatever is a certain thing then you go to another website selling a stage 11 clutch lmfao
Thankyou. Stages are bullshit, my gti is stage 2+ and honestly to me that doesn't mean shit. If you look at built tuner cars a k20 with a turbo isn't a stage anything. To me my car is just tuned. Big turbo, DP, exhaust, intercooler, clutch, intake, turbo inlet, motor mounts, etc. It's all just a part of the process of making more power, not leveling up like you're in a video game 🤦🏾♂️
@@zZthenewguyZzeven funnier is that for LS’s a lot of our cams are in different stages but meaning how aggressive the cam is, a stage 4 gtr cam is a big cam that will get you the most timing and power, and it goes down to stage 2+ which is a the smallest you can go and keep the chop, the smallest gains. In my opinion this is the only way stages should be used, the label which performance level a part is, not to say “my car is stage 4 🤡”
For me Stage 1 is just ECU remap, stage 2 is an upgrade of engine externals (hybrid turbos, intercoolers, intake & exhaust mods, injection system etc.) Stage 3 = engine internals modifications (aftermarket camshafts, forged parts, increasing volume, things like that)
Stage 1,2, etc. is just reffering to the Grand Turismo upgrade system, which calls upgrades stages to make it easier to understand how powerful of a upgrade you give a car
To think the term of different stages vary depending if it’s NA or forced induction, a stage 1 car is like intake exhaust Tune on a NA car, stage 2 is like throttle body headers and almost full build stage 3 is FBO, for boosted car this term applies more
Never had someone ask me what “stage” is under my hood until recently. Some highschool kid & I could tell he’s obviously interested in cars so I broke down what I’m doing to the car rn cuz it’s currently stock. Seemed like a nice kid just tryna learn. Next time I see him maybe it’ll finally have the ZF 5 speed in it. I got all the parts just waiting for my mechanic to get back to me. I’d go to my buddys and do it ourselves but I want it done 110% correctly so I’d rather pay my other buddy 1 days of work to make sure it’s done right & I have a my car back on the roads quick. I’ve never done a trans swap & if I were to do it myself it’s not also my daily. I’ll get a different daily sooner or later but until then some stuff the guy that knows these cars like the back of his hand can do the major things like a trans swap.
@@cameroncoop6592bruh honestly just ignore them. No matter what community you go to you’re ALWAYS gonna find people like this, specially on the internet. I’m new to the whole tuning thing, i don’t even understand it yet, but i’m pretty sure that most of them are just talking shit to feel better about themselves🤷♂️
what would a stage one tune do to a q50 3.7? im still trying to keep reliability into the mix. I just don’t want my gas mileage to shoot down and more maintenance be required.
When some says "yea my car is stag-" nope, I cut it off there and walk away, I don't want to hear a stage, I want to hear what you fucking done to the car
This is entirely wrong. The stage and mods that go with each stage are entirely dependent on the car and the tune. Stage 2+ on my GTi is the next size up in turbo, injectors, hpfp, intercooler, and the tune that goes with it and stage 2 is just a 3 inch downpipe and tune
This guy should have clarified that he’s mostly only talking about wrx stages. Every car is different and most of the time the use of stages is stupid but with the wrx it’s actually quite useful to have each stage tune as you upgrade your car.
Everyone always forgets to do stage 0. Slapping an eBay intake on a car with 300k miles means nothing when the rings are so bad its smoking like a 2 stroke.
-1 stage is removing ur air filter -2 stage is removing the heads and exhaust on the car -3 stage removes the oil and gas tank and finally -4 stage removes to whole engine
Stage is just an idea of the performance of the part from the company, a stage two from one company is different to another Also it doesnt have defined upgrades, its a loose term that, on its own, is useless
The ones that talk their build like it’s “stage xyz° squared” don’t even know what their cars can even do with those mods or or just hard park them for the noise
I've never heard anyone say stage 1,2 and so on.. Unless they're stating the tuners name and states their stuff. Just saying stage whatever provides no info other than generalization
This is 100% incorrect. Stages are known working combos to reach different "stages" of power for that particular engine/trans. It is not particular to the part type. If stages followed proper staged upgrading, stage 1 would be an exhaust because that is where you SHOULD start. Gotta get the air out before you can get more in....
If you ask someone about their car and they start talking in stages they probably paid someone to build it for them and don't actually know what's under their hood, from my experience...
Isn’t like stage 1 some easy bold on parts and maybe an ecu tune. stage 2 turbo/supercharger kit, high quality dyno tune and a lot of other stuff. Stage 3 High quality engine internals and all the good stuff
WhoTF is putting a $$$$ Tune (Stage 1) on a car before a $$ Air intake (Stage 2)?? No one. Abs no one. And Stage 4 = Flex Fuel? Has this guy ever heard of a car? Srsly
The actual answer: stages are absolutely useless and mean nothing without further context. One persons “stage 1” could be someone else’s stage “stage 3”. Stop using this bc and just say what mods ur running or give whp/wtq numbers ffs.🤦♂️
@@cfisher2447 Something like that. The downpipe and midpipe of stock cars is usually pretty restrictive, and that happens before the mufflers. The highest restriction is usually the catalytic converters themselves, followed by resonators and then mufflers. If you get a catback, you aren't really freeing up that much flow because the cats are still restricting most of it, so your gains are limited. Typically people get catbacks for sound and downpipes for power. but in really restrictive states like California, companies are hard-pressed to be able to develop downpipe options that would pass smog.
So I went stage 3 accidentally and keep telling people I had a stage 2 😂
A lot of racers do that 😂 guilty
@@sushiboiii so what is a stage 3?
@@sushiboiii So true... the video is so wrong it's unreal.
Stage 1: ECU Tune
Stage 2: Intake/Exhaust Modifications (including Turbo)
Stage 3: Engine modifications (camshafts, pipstons etc.)
There is no minus stages, there is no plus stages. What is this TikTok level of bullshit.
'Stage 3' modifications are pretty intensive bc a lot of parts you might not even think of can't handle the increase in power, which usually means if you're going through this much effort it's most likely a race/track build and so nobody would accidentally Stage 3
@@soniromanov see it so much
Stage is an overstatement in my opinion. I hate when I ask someone “whatcha got done to your car?” And they say something like “oh just a stage 1” like bro wtf is that. You gotta be more specific. Just tell me the mods and who makes them🤣
Exactly like wtf do you mean it's stage 2 does it have cancer or something?
@@Jacob-rt6onI’m saying that XD
A stage 1 package at my shop is intake filter, back box delete and tune, a stage 2 package is upgraded intake manifold, decat pipes and sometimes injectors, stage 3 is absolutely anything goes to max out what your car can make or jsut throw a couple more parts on and make a little more power
How much does a stage tune cost??
dont teach people stages, stages are bullshit. arbitrary numbers made up by companies. you say a stage whatever is a certain thing then you go to another website selling a stage 11 clutch lmfao
Thankyou. Stages are bullshit, my gti is stage 2+ and honestly to me that doesn't mean shit. If you look at built tuner cars a k20 with a turbo isn't a stage anything. To me my car is just tuned. Big turbo, DP, exhaust, intercooler, clutch, intake, turbo inlet, motor mounts, etc. It's all just a part of the process of making more power, not leveling up like you're in a video game 🤦🏾♂️
@@zZthenewguyZzeven funnier is that for LS’s a lot of our cams are in different stages but meaning how aggressive the cam is, a stage 4 gtr cam is a big cam that will get you the most timing and power, and it goes down to stage 2+ which is a the smallest you can go and keep the chop, the smallest gains. In my opinion this is the only way stages should
be used, the label which performance level a part is, not to say “my car is stage 4 🤡”
If you say stage this or that then I don’t even wanna continue the conversation😂😂😂
Just know what parts you are putting on. Hearing “stage 3+++ bro” is often quite irritating.
For me Stage 1 is just ECU remap, stage 2 is an upgrade of engine externals (hybrid turbos, intercoolers, intake & exhaust mods, injection system etc.) Stage 3 = engine internals modifications (aftermarket camshafts, forged parts, increasing volume, things like that)
Stage 1,2, etc. is just reffering to the Grand Turismo upgrade system, which calls upgrades stages to make it easier to understand how powerful of a upgrade you give a car
To think the term of different stages vary depending if it’s NA or forced induction, a stage 1 car is like intake exhaust Tune on a NA car, stage 2 is like throttle body headers and almost full build stage 3 is FBO, for boosted car this term applies more
Camshaft(s), efficient and lighter driveshaft , fuel injectors, long tube headers, muffler/catalytic converter delete, supporting suspension, intake throttle body size upgrades, added oil catch can, lighter tires/rims, anti-drag coefficient parts or plastic deletes, tune. N/A Stage 3. AND Doing it all yourself
I’m new to all this. What benefit does lighter rims and tires have?
Never had someone ask me what “stage” is under my hood until recently. Some highschool kid & I could tell he’s obviously interested in cars so I broke down what I’m doing to the car rn cuz it’s currently stock. Seemed like a nice kid just tryna learn. Next time I see him maybe it’ll finally have the ZF 5 speed in it. I got all the parts just waiting for my mechanic to get back to me. I’d go to my buddys and do it ourselves but I want it done 110% correctly so I’d rather pay my other buddy 1 days of work to make sure it’s done right & I have a my car back on the roads quick. I’ve never done a trans swap & if I were to do it myself it’s not also my daily. I’ll get a different daily sooner or later but until then some stuff the guy that knows these cars like the back of his hand can do the major things like a trans swap.
if you want it done probably do it yourself bro
at least then you know exactly whats been done under there
The map options for the jb4 are pretty similar in progression as well.
Do I need to dyno my 2.0 Accourd I bought an intake now I got lights all over my dash after the install what do I need to do
I’m new to cars and am wondering do you need an aftermarket intake for the tune or can you do it all stock
So with an intake, down pipe, front pipe, exhaust + and tune would that be considered stage 2+ or have I reached stage 3?
How do "install" flex fuel??? I've heard of flex fuel before but I just assumed that was where the car switched from fuel to electric or something
No supercharger , turbo hurt in this short ❌
Damn I'm at stage 50 lol
'Stage' and a number means you're a wannabe.
weirdo
Dumbest take
so you’re a poser if you don’t do power mods to your car. but then youre a poser if you do bolt ons and a tune? i don’t understand y’all
@@cameroncoop6592bruh honestly just ignore them. No matter what community you go to you’re ALWAYS gonna find people like this, specially on the internet.
I’m new to the whole tuning thing, i don’t even understand it yet, but i’m pretty sure that most of them are just talking shit to feel better about themselves🤷♂️
@@cameroncoop6592stages are for rookies. Just list your mods.
Stage 1 tune, stage 2 bolt ons plus tune, and stage 3 fbo/bigger turbo and tune.
what if i get a downpipe and cold i take with no accessport?
I want to tune a Kia Sedona 2012 mini van what you guys think?
So what stage is when you have forged internal and bigger turbo
Do you guys sell 2jz stuff?
What about na, Intake down pipe and what else?
Which car was that in Vedic
what would a stage one tune do to a q50 3.7? im still trying to keep reliability into the mix. I just don’t want my gas mileage to shoot down and more maintenance be required.
Stage 1 tunes rarely affect much. Typically (depending on brand) they improve throttle response, power band, and a couple other small things.
@@maperformanceyeah unless its forced induction then youll probably get a lot of bang for your buck
Don’t forget the support mods
Does anyone have any input on putting a LS into a 2020 Impala?
When some says "yea my car is stag-" nope, I cut it off there and walk away, I don't want to hear a stage, I want to hear what you fucking done to the car
There’s nothing on the website for my car
Stage three is not just a downpipe down pipes for turbos
Does this impact reliability in the long term ?
of course
Definitely. An air intake system is sucking in more air which means more contaminants in the engine.
@@khalil7011 If i understand the video, that's just after stage 1. What if i only do the stage 1, will it still impact reliability ?
@@wh00t14 Tuning? The answer is still yes. More horsepower will result in more strain on the engine.
i think i might understand why a turbo for a mazda MZR engine said “Stage 6”
Sounds about right
Why the hell is flex fuel3+ doesn’t it ruin performance anyway?
Then the n20 is out here having stage 3+ just to prevent early maintenance on stage one 💀
cool found out my slow asf v6 shtang is stage 2
Ok so i have a tune a downpipe and a cold air intake. BUT theres also a turbo and a BOV in my car so what stage is that? 😂
This is entirely wrong. The stage and mods that go with each stage are entirely dependent on the car and the tune. Stage 2+ on my GTi is the next size up in turbo, injectors, hpfp, intercooler, and the tune that goes with it and stage 2 is just a 3 inch downpipe and tune
For WV polo car .... Stage 3 expectation price
This guy should have clarified that he’s mostly only talking about wrx stages. Every car is different and most of the time the use of stages is stupid but with the wrx it’s actually quite useful to have each stage tune as you upgrade your car.
This term was originated from a video game though
lol i thought i was on stage 2 but im on s1
Everyone always forgets to do stage 0. Slapping an eBay intake on a car with 300k miles means nothing when the rings are so bad its smoking like a 2 stroke.
W176 a250 able to have parts for this stage 2
So what about minus stages? I'm about -4 stage with my car
-1 stage is removing ur air filter -2 stage is removing the heads and exhaust on the car -3 stage removes the oil and gas tank and finally -4 stage removes to whole engine
My car has intake and exhaust and I call it stage 0.5 😂
Always thought the "stage" thing sounded corny AF.
Don’t have stuff for a 2016 Audi a5 coupe 😢
stage 5?
What about non turbo cars ?
Stage is just an idea of the performance of the part from the company, a stage two from one company is different to another
Also it doesnt have defined upgrades, its a loose term that, on its own, is useless
The ones that talk their build like it’s “stage xyz° squared” don’t even know what their cars can even do with those mods or or just hard park them for the noise
Checked your website... not a single part that'd work for my 91 300te benz... cmon man...
On stage 88
Where’s the turbo?
I've never heard anyone say stage 1,2 and so on.. Unless they're stating the tuners name and states their stuff. Just saying stage whatever provides no info other than generalization
This is 100% incorrect. Stages are known working combos to reach different "stages" of power for that particular engine/trans. It is not particular to the part type. If stages followed proper staged upgrading, stage 1 would be an exhaust because that is where you SHOULD start. Gotta get the air out before you can get more in....
What stage is fully built?☠️
so i’m stage 2 but i tell people im stage 1?
Yeah I’m still confused
“Stage” has no basis in reality and is just a marketing ploy. Also, these mods only really apply to a turbo car
2010 Toyota Corolla ! Yea don’t got that do you
Stage .5 i have a bov thats it🤣
Bet they don't have anything substantial for my car.
If you ask someone about their car and they start talking in stages they probably paid someone to build it for them and don't actually know what's under their hood, from my experience...
sigh....the internet. When I was a lad I had to learn this in Sport Compact car magazine. 👍🏾
Knowledge at your fingertips!
Isn’t like stage 1 some easy bold on parts and maybe an ecu tune.
stage 2 turbo/supercharger kit, high quality dyno tune and a lot of other stuff.
Stage 3 High quality engine internals and all the good stuff
I need to find a tuning shop that will work on a 09-10 optima v6 trying to make 40 more horsepower
Stage 400+ wrx
Stages doesn’t make sense it depends what your doing with it
Nothing, it means absolutely nothing
stage? whose tf calls their mods stages like its forza or something lol
WhoTF is putting a $$$$ Tune (Stage 1) on a car before a $$ Air intake (Stage 2)??
No one. Abs no one.
And Stage 4 = Flex Fuel?
Has this guy ever heard of a car? Srsly
Stages 5 mfks
There are no things like stages. Life is not a video game. Sorry.
The actual answer: stages are absolutely useless and mean nothing without further context. One persons “stage 1” could be someone else’s stage “stage 3”. Stop using this bc and just say what mods ur running or give whp/wtq numbers ffs.🤦♂️
Yeah pretty sure this video is completely false
False
my evo is stage 4 😅
Wtf is wrong with these kids?
So when I tell people I am stage 2 at 3,000 hp what does stage 3 get me ?
Stages are fake names given to make people feel special…
No such thing as stages.
Is exhaust not considered part of stage upgrades? doesn't that inhibit your downpipe upgrade?
Catbacks are usually not included because they only marginally increase power, but you'll gain a few more if you've done all these mods first!
@@maperformance is that because the bottleneck of a stock setup is mainly the downpipe, and not the exhaust?
@@cfisher2447 Something like that. The downpipe and midpipe of stock cars is usually pretty restrictive, and that happens before the mufflers.
The highest restriction is usually the catalytic converters themselves, followed by resonators and then mufflers. If you get a catback, you aren't really freeing up that much flow because the cats are still restricting most of it, so your gains are limited.
Typically people get catbacks for sound and downpipes for power. but in really restrictive states like California, companies are hard-pressed to be able to develop downpipe options that would pass smog.
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