a small correction: it happened years ago, he didn't say that he was beating his meat to her, but simply had a big p**n addiction problem. So yeah, she misspoke, Charlie blew it up, she corrected herself on twitter. As always, content farming.
@@ashton8223 I had to watch it a few times but the weird guy wasn't Jackson. Charlie kinda glossed over it too quickly and the stories blended together
@@soupermegeri think they're implying the information is so scarring that they cannot have it removed from their psyche. Idk, the comment is written weirdly.
I find it terrifying. I've listened to Jackson on the podcast for about a year and he doesn't seem like this at all. He seems so normal and for him to come off as The Cable Guy seems so scary...
@@Peein555huh?? he doesn't seem like the cable guy though. he just scammed charlie for his friendship? the story charlie is telling about the guy on skype isn't jackson
@@boblatte123 7:52 he says this happened *after* he met jackson, meaning it wasn't jackson. he became close friends with jackson after he scammed him for friendship, but jackson wasn't the guy he dedicated half the video to talking about
sure, but it's one thing to get off to a video and another thing entirely to be employed by that person, tell them directly that you get off to their content and use it as an excuse for work being late. that's completely insane lmao
Yeah especially the, I will kill myself if you don't do this and that. The pressure of them putting their life on the line because you want to distance yourself and you don't actually know if they are going to go through their threat
Oh man for real. 3 of my friends been in the situation and myself. This dude was on the "I'm gonna kms" thing but then tried flirting with me. I'm a guy btw. Yeah...
"do you have a minute to talk" is how my boss pulled me to the side to make it sound like i was in trouble to my coworkers but i was just getting a raise 😂
Big brain plays lmaoooo W boss. They understand the fish eat fish world and how even your coworkers will eat you alive if they know you get "special treatment" or literally anything that _they_ aren't getting lol, they can get extremely envious. I worked with a girl who was on welfare and basically got handed the job for free because they were "like" family to the boss, but not blood-related. She could only work a set amount of hours and only get paid so much hourly wage, so she'd intentionally work off the clock, take hour long lunches, etc, otherwise she'd lose her benefits for a month or 2 weeks, idk how it all worked but anyways, she made sure I'd remember this because I swear she told me this story like half a dozen times or at least expressed her anger about it and how much she hated this other coworker, who was getting paid way way more than her, but he was struggling and actually had to move a couple times while I was working there, had to take care of himself, his brother, pay rent to his aunt who he moved in with temporarily, and also had a girlfriend. But he wasn't out blowing his money on this and that. Meanwhile this chick who's had everything handed to her, is obnoxiously loud about going to a club EVERY SINGLE WEEKEND just to dance with guys but not want to even do anything with them, and acting surprised that they do, which shows she's self-aware because she's the one I hear this from, it's just all very weird. And she was living with her mom, which I won't judge, due to the state of the world and money rn, I have to do the same thing, but she wasn't even paying much for rent either. It's just like. I don't know. A mentality and perspective type thing. Even I feel bad for talking about these new games I was buying and playing to the other coworker, even if it was just because it was things I enjoyed, because I was more funding my hobbies (still within reason) while he was struggling and just making ends meet. There was talk about us all getting raises after some performance test at another location in the summer (never happened), and I just KNOW she was thinking, "he doesn't need that raise, he already has so much more pay than me,, he doesn't need it, he doesn't deserve it, it should only be me" LIke she even told me she didn't wanna know how much my pay was because she knew she'd be too mad to handle it. As if it's her business to begin with. Like...? Forgot to mention, the only reason she knew what dude's pay was, is because she opened his check that was in the office (it was already unsealed but she 100% pulled it out and looked at it) and she threw a fit at the boss (basically like her uncle which is why it was deemed as okay) Wild stuff man... I don't think I'd believe this story if I didn't live it myself! So if I were ever anyone's boss, I'd probably do the same lmao. But I rather just work from home anyways, cuz more freedom. XD
@@koganeitou You act like Companies dont design the system for that exact response? They want their workers to be that jealous. The last thing they want is for employees to get along and discuss pay. Thats how unions form.
One of my best friends from middle school I smashed his fingers between our desks on accident literally day 1 of class. he was seriously pissed about it and thought I did it on purpose
Unfortunately also met a guy through voice acting who had a crush on me even though he was working for me. He told me he wanted to see pics of my body and shamed me for eating chocolate when i was stressed because "Isn't that what far people do?" He then threatened to unalive if I didn't accept his advances or give him the role he wanted. It messed me up for a while.
I had an ex who told me that if I didn't get back with him he was going to kill himself, the first time I fell for his manipulation, the second I asked him what color he wanted the flowers. 😅
6:09 "an immuculate goey nut".. "this is democracy manifest" i love the direction this went and hate that I knew it was going in this direction the moment tthe accent changed
the "online friend" who just uses you as a therapist and gets mad when you don't respond was all too well known to me as a teen, I was fr consoling grown ass 24 yr old men about their failing marriage at 16, people on the internet are wack
I worked in teen helpline for six years and what you experienced we called being taken "emotionally hostage". You did the exactly right thing and for anyone watching this who's going through the same, you should know that: - If you want to try to help them, recommending seeking professional help and breaking contact IS the best thing for them. - Emotional hostagetaking is a manipulation tactic and you are NOT responsible for this persons actions. Even if they say you are. -You do NOT owe them anything. So if you are too overwhelmed to even recommend them seeking help, its okay to break contact entirely. They are not entitled to any of your time and your own welfare is your primary concern
My longterm girlfriend is suicidal and I keep recommending therapy and she isn't seeking help.. I feel responsible for her life on the bad days. What should my steps be?
@@jigong1838baby reindeer is a show on Netflix about a guy being stalked, I haven’t watched but I heard it’s good and it’s based on a true story played by the irl victim
@@useraccount333 that’s exactly it. Even the streamer knows her fans are mostly just there to spill goon juice to her videos, but at least they’re not going out of their way to tell her.
And she knows they all watch her for that reason. In fact, conspiracy brain tells me she made this story up just because it re-entrenches her main USP, that she's sooo hot a guy would lose his job to tell her he whacks it to her so much he can't work. That's what all her paypigs pay her for anyways
For anyone wanting an update: She tweeted that he got fired, but she continued to pay him for a couple months. She was convinced he had an actual problem with addiction so she covered the money for getting him help. Some people on reddit found who they think it was
okay it's really kind of her to cover the costs of his counselling and help, but in no way does she have to do that !! even if it is an addiction she does not need to pay him or support him in any way, there's more than enough reason to block him and never contact him in any way again she is so nice for that
Charlie's story is insanely relatable. I've met sooo many people like that online. Only thing to do is either ignore them or block them because if you give them the slightest attention they won't leave you alone/start threatening unaliving themselves
And here I am, telling them that Gillette razor blades are on sale. There's only so much empathy you can have for random people, especially with the annoying ones.
Been there before, not with an online stranger. I just decided "If they die, they die. Won't put that on me, or on myself". 3 years later they're still pretty much alive. I'm not saying they won't do it, but even if they do that's not on you. You don't make decisions for other people, they do.
Tip : if someone keeps threatening self harm for you simply not talking to them as a manipulative tactic, call the police and ask them to do a wellness check on them. If they’re actually struggling you could potentially help them better their situation, if they’re faking it, the police showing up to their door should be a scare enough to leave you alone
The editor: 'pokemaine I'm sowwy becawse of being behind the deadline 👉🏻👈🏻, it's becawse I've been beating my meat instead of beating the deadline for weeks sowwy 🥺 👉🏻👈🏻❤️
You know… for someone basically being manipulated into a very intense and dangerous friendship w a random online, you were rly nice to keep repeating to him he needed professional help, cause it probably did end up getting thru to him since he probably idolized you yk… appreciate you doing that for someone who was harming you… Shows a lot about you blessings to you bro
When I was a teen I'd vent to a friend CONSTANTLY about my depression and suicidal ideation, and there came a point where she just had to (metaphorically) sit me down and go "This is not good for my mental health and I don't think you're pursuing the help you need, I do not want to keep encouraging this." That broke my heart and even years later, though we're still friends, I feel awful about it, but it did make me stop venting and look into other avenues of getting help, because I didn't want to do that to other friends. What Charlie went through is different since that dude wasn't a friend and was very obsessive over him, but I wanted to say this because sometimes the best thing for a person like that is to go "I cannot help you, please get help" and leave it there.
@@jesustyronechrist2330its bad. Its part of why the male suicide rate is so high. You have real pieces of shit who abuse others repeadtedly, and then that trauma is never addressed by the victim and they become wary of all men, and then like you said it becomes almost a propoganda story to spread on reddit and say "men bad, men dangerous, men animals". And then geniunely wholesome dudes get fucked up cuz theyre treated with hate due to actions of other people. And all the while, people are imploring the same logic racists use to say men pose a risk of danger. But I digress
@@jesustyronechrist2330it does help. Talking about what you feel is a very very very good thing. If you don't think it helps because you went to fucking reddit and happened upon one of the universally known dumbass subreddits (i say this as a woman), that's fully on you. There are loads of people who will just listen, or offer actual good advice.
I've been in your friends shoes and it's literally awful when all someone does is bring your mood down and most of the time the person venting doesn't even ask anything about me just constantly complain
@@notweeweeYea they are. I'm that friend. Sometimes when i'm struggling with my own things, i tell them i need a little time before i can listen to them. But that's my job as a friend.
@@davedave3520 What??? That's the problem with the world nowadays, edging isn't a 30min exercise, you won't even BEGIN to peek into the goon-trance enlightenment with less than 90 minutes of focused, restrained goon time. 30 min... fucking pathetic amateurs smh
Oh god, the story he had at the end. I had an irl friend who would get super mad if I didn't get back to him in time with texts. Would get offended if I visibly didn't want any unwanted physical touch. And yes, at the end of our "friendship" he said he was gonna end it. A few days after that I said we aren't friends anymore and he gaslit me to high heaven and told me how terrible I was... Then years later he ended up being a somewhat successful smash streamer, and then got involved in the Me too movement. I heard about that and called his ass out in our friend group and they were all surprised and mad at him. People are insane
@@ElephantseatShortsbased on the information you gave he’s not a weirdo that’s just normal relationship stuff partners will get annoyed if you deny them physical touch like wym I can’t hug you or cuddle you or kiss you we in a relationship that comes with it if it happens a few times sure I’ll give u ur space but if you continue we arnt in a relationship because part of being in a relationship is physical. Now I understand if you disagree which is perfectly fine but guess what that means we don’t have to be in a relationship and probably why he left no weirdo activity he saw something he didn’t like in you which a lot of guys wouldn’t and left
@@anonymous-go1tq no, he was threatening self deletion if I didn't stay as his friend and give him intimate things. I was not even a smidge romantically into him. That ain't normal. And when I finally stood up for myself, he made me the bad guy and sent me scorning hate messages. I still have em saved because I had to prove it to my friend group how toxic he was
I missed the shift in Charlie's story where he went from talking about how he met Jackson to a similar experience with another guy and I was like "woah wtf I can't believe Jackson did all this! How are they still such good friends?"
I'm still hooked on the "week or two" part of the story. Like, bro, it would have been easier to make up something at that point. Your rub-a-dub delayed you for at least a week? Absolute lunatic.
this is all allegations without any proof. who knows if shes actually telling the truth dawg. the 'i didnt know what to do, i felt so bad so i kept paying him for months' part is REALLY sketchy. like. really? that doesn't sit right AT ALL. especially knowing how she was to other staffers off stream. if you know, you know. i'm just a random comment what do i know. (:
@@housemanayeah I agree but knowing how some people are, and how there’s a whole subreddit based on her I wouldn’t be surprised if it was true to some extent
Im so glad Charlie shared his own similar personal experience with this, because so many people very quickly and easily blame you for "allowing this to keep going" and tell you that "you must have wanted that person around if you kept them around so you're lying for attention" when in reality, when you are in that kind of situation its so hard to pull back because you feel sorry for the person and you kinda feel responsible for them
@@brandonhession8550 Yeah but theyre not getting paid by her and then violating the boundaries of a business relationship. I feel like pokimaine is aware that there are probably ppl who crank their hogs to her, but a lot of them arent letting her know that they do, and theyre not letting her know that while theyre literally being contracted to do work for her and then releasing the work way later than expected.
I mean, I highly doubt they are all that bad?? I get they are Simps but actually beating it to someone who isn't even wearing anything that revealing is crazy...wtf
@@Ahmed-og2jm bro has not seen IG "models". But fr though, yea I am sure that not everyone in her fanbase is an absolute creep but being a pretty girl in the internet is being a creep magnet. I have never seen her YT videos or streams but purely by judging her IG posts, she definitely farms creeps a bit
I learned quick that the internet is full of weirdos. Similarly I was playing a game on steam with a random girl. She asked if we could be friends on steam to play together. I said sure thinking it was platonic and we would just play games together every now and then. Nope, the moment I accepted her friend request she was messaging me everything about her life and wanting to know who I really was. I did the same thing trying to be nice but not feeding into her conversations. Hoping she would get the hint and stop messaging me but after 2 days of ignoring her she started messaging about hurting herself and shit. I just messaged her back saying, I’m sorry but you need to find professional help. Then blocked/unfriended her. It nagged at me for a bit wondering if she ever acted on her threats but I told myself it wouldn’t matter because I didn’t know her and nothing I could do would ever help heal whatever mental illness she was going through.
Your story was so common back on Skype for some reason, when I was a teenager there were always older people who'd take advantage of how easy it is to pressure you into being their therapist because nobody else in their life wants to talk to them. I don't use Discord but I'd bet it's still a big problem on there too
Though any type of person can be guilty of this but ive noticed a very common trend within certain communities that trauma dumping and public post pity parties are abound. I typically come across this annoying crap when getting invited to a server for comms for the game I'm playing at that time. It becomes a bit annoying to me when you end up getting invited to like 6 different servers over a period of time by those same people because they wore out their welcome by their posting behavior/soured relationships with others within those servers.
@@zmanrockz6358 yeppers^ this is also the best advice you could get, there you can only find ppl that are DEAD DRY for attention and circlejerks, like anywhere on the internet or shit in classic chatrooms
if it helps poki had to tweet later to clarify that he WASN"T getting off to HER, just that he said it TO HER. also someone else found out that she just repeated what a smaller streamer said, so she lied basically
I feel like we’ve all had someone in our lives who we let overstay their welcome at least once. Whether it be an old friend, ex-partner, or just some clingy acquaintance, we tolerated them just because we genuinely felt bad for them. But at the same time it’s also the worst because like Charlie said you feel like you’re in a hostage situation. Just know that it’s ok to say no and don’t ever feel like you’re forced to hang out with someone. People who truly care about you will always care also about your well-being.
@ayviondenar3461 idk about lying, but she conveyed the information wrong. The editor just had an addiction but wasn't beating his meat to her specifically. Edit: she said it on twitter
Dudes need more friends they feel comfortable sharing sensitive stuff with. If this dude had one good friend, and ran this by him “I’m gonna tell her”, I’d like to think that friend would pull him back to reality.
as a girl I would be glad that he told me so I could fire him immediately. It’s one thing to occasionally yoink off to a girl in your private time, but if you are doing it so much that you can’t meet deadlines and you’re also creepy enough to tell me, you gotta go
Maybe dude was just joking around . Girls are have developed a strong sense of immunity to humor (specially risqué ones) so you have to be very npc dialogue when speaking to them
@@zorlockts5744nah, brother. I think you’re being too charitable to this dude. Plus, most girls who you know personally, are pretty good with that type of humour or jokes in general, based off my experience.
@@zorlockts5744except thats not even a funny "joke" for guys to tell their male bosses... Thats something you might say to your male best friend about why you havent dixed a dent on your car. Guy was definitely just being honest and weird.
Threats of suicide if the relationship ends is classic abuse and it can be really hard for someone to set boundaries in a scary situation. Good for you talking about this, and I think also the response to seek a professional because of lack of ability to help is an appropriate response. I've heard worse ways to respond to someone threatening self harm if a relationship ends.
Call their bluff and tell them to put their money where their mouth is, they can miss me with that manipulative shit. Probably one of the worse ways to respond as you said but couldn’t care what happens after for people like that.
As scary as it is, you're not responsible for someone's safety if they're using it as a manipulation tactic. It's imperative you separate yourself from that person upon seeing these red flags. I've already experienced this once and marched through it against my best judgement. I won't ever do that again.
Happened to me too long ago. It was a girl I met in Twitter. Separated myself (I talked about that with her) and never came back. She started tweeting about depression and ending it all. Fast forward to now a year and a half later and she's doing fine. Chronically in Twitter still reposting and posting. To anyone reading this comment thread, chances are it is indeed a manipulative tactic to get you in their life, not caring about inconveniencing yours and that's not friendship. Do what Charlie says, advice professional help ONCE and leave. Anything that happens or doesn't happen isn't your fault or even your concern anymore. Continue your life inside and outside your house 👍.
Exactly, the second someone starts threatening self-harm/s*icide to coerce you into behaving a certain way via emotional blackmail, you now have full permission to tell them that it's not your responsibility, that it's unreasonable to demand you walk on eggshells for fear of them maybe harming themself and that, if they're serious, they need to go to talk to a professional instead. And if you're as mean as me, you can also say "Fine, do it. No, go ahead, you said you would, so do it". They're not for real, it's just a coercive tactic and nothing makes that clearer than when they just stare back sheepishly because they didn't plan for that reaction.
@@RK-dc2es "And if you're as mean as me, you can also say "Fine, do it. No, go ahead, you said you would, so do it". They're not for real, it's just a coercive tactic and nothing makes that clearer than when they just stare back sheepishly because they didn't plan for that reaction." Nailed it. I'm an asshole so would have no problems saying this. But I think that if they threaten this, theyre being the bigger asshole so I'm all good lmao
Charlie's story of the guy who messaged him constantly reminds me of when I had a very similar situation on Xbox 360. Met a dude on Red Dead Online while playing with my friends and he seemed cool so when he sent a friend request I accepted it. At first it was just game joining requests and then it progressed to friendly chatter. But it quickly became this dude sending me voice messages over Xbox crying, pleading for me to get online and talk to to him (i started getting creepy vibes from him) otherwise he'd kick the bucket. It was and still is the strangest and craziest experienced I've had online involving someone I never actually met in real life.
This person, and Charlie's person, were people were trying to either groom or scam you (and Charlie). Predators do this kind of stuff to younger people to try and lure them into doing whatever it is they plan. Sometimes it's just getting attention, sometimes it's far more sinister. Glad to hear that you (and Charlie) got out of those situations relatively unscathed. Weirded out, but okay generally. To anyone reading this, don't coddle someone who says they'll kill themselves. Offer them resources to get help and just move on with your life. 95% of the time, they're just doing it to manipulate you.
god i’m sorry you had to deal with that. the whole time he was talking about that and specifically the threats to end one’s life if he didn’t respond is SUCH a manipulative behavior. and the streamer… i feel so bad for her bc we know this culture and how misogynistic these spaces can be.
haha there are many perverts hunting for young prey. stay away from weirdos right away. don't let them grab your attention or you gonna pay big price for it
If someone ever tries to use suicide to guilt you into something, block them. You don't owe random people on your friends list your time and it's a bad situation if you dread talking to them every time you get a message or get online. For your own mental health, do not tolerate people saying they'll kill themselves if you stop talking to them or doing what they say.
@@thisisaterribleargument_but I'd say these are 13 y/o's creating these but I've been disproven time and time again. they are likely 16 and were never given any love by their mama.
@@thisisaterribleargument_but I literally do not understand why youtube often censors very mild comments, but allows this crap to fester in many popular channels.
@@thisisaterribleargument_butis it just me or does the "Read more" say "erom daeR" ("Read more" backwards)? It's only for the bots under this comment.
That personal anecdote is so real, I feel like most of us have had a some sort of run in like that with someone online that really needs a friend but they go about it in a very strange and obsessive way.
Your story of that guy reminds me of an online friend I had. They have/had mental issues such as abandoment issues, BPD, anxiety disorders, etc. They were a pretty close friend in my friend circle. Fun to be around until they had one of their episodes. Over the years I felt bad for them and listened to their issues and tried helping them. There was one time they were planning on taking their life. I freaked out and was crying and contacting my friend circle trying to get help. Someone managed to get the cops to the friend's house. They were alive, but pissed the cops were called. There would be many breakdowns from them and me trying to help out. So many "I promise I changed! I'm seeing a new therapist!" that back into the usual messes. Years go by and, due to my own mental issues, fell into a deep depression of my own. And becauae of this I realized I'm not fit enough to help anyone else - not even myself. I had it. I broke things off with that friend. They got clingy and would make new accounts and try to talk to me through my other friends. My friends are well aware of these episodes and behaviors and my stance on it. I want nothing to do with this person. It was tough, but I'm glad I freed myself. Oh, also my mental health is amazing nowadays (due to many other reasons, not just this).
Not trying to discredit if the other person had a mental illness but when im having depressive episodes I don't reach out to anyone because I already realize how much of a burden my mental health takes on me that I don't want to force that onto others. Person may just want companionship because they're lonely.
Great that you got better man. The same stuff happened to me with my ex. Every time I'd breakdown from the emotional distraught it was always "I can change! I can stop right now!" (she was abusing drugs). Luckily at some point I came to my senses through other friends telling me to break things up. And like you said, it's always tough but the toughest situations make you grow and learn the most.
@@damienperez7776for sure they do, but there is a way to ask without being clingy and respecting boundaries. The way this person kept making accounts and trying to push for contact when they clearly did not want it because it was just such an emotional tax especially given their own issues is just too much and this person was 100% right for breaking contact. Some people only tell you about all the wrong in their life and have no room for other subjects nor have any awareness and/or care of your boundaries.
Being in a situation like that where someone’s basically holding themselves “hostage” threatening their own life is just the absolute worst feeling. Because once you’re in that situation there’s nothing you can really do. It’s easy to think you’d say “that’s not my problem” in that type of scenario, but when it actually does happen you feel a level of responsibility for that person. It’s truly terrifying, knowing what you say next may prevent or cause someone to do something horrible. Of course it sucks for the person feeling that way, but they really need to seek actual professional help, because I don’t think they understand the emotional torment they cause when then put that type of responsibility for their lives on someone else
I am happy to say that I am at the age where if someone tried to guilt me into feeling that way (responsible for their actions) I would and could block them from my reality
It's a malicious tactic. They KNOW the emotional turmoil it causes, they know it'll make people want to stay, that's why they do it. I've known too many people like this and I dropped them like hot potatoes, and guess what? They're still kicking out there, living and breathing and hopefully have grown up and gotten professional help since then. It's scary the first few times you deal with people like that, but once you recognize what's going on? Just run.
@@Cuil Yeah it’s manipulative for sure, whether or not they realize it. I think in most cases it is safe to run like that because they won’t actually do anything. In my case unfortunately the person I was talking to actually had done something in the past and survived, so I had trouble taking that risk of running away.
Meh... It's their life so that's their choice. 2 girls already tried that with me and I was like : "i have other things to do, stop ruining my day". Nothing happened.
real. i told one of my exes i was gonna kms (i wasn’t faking it i really was suicidal and did attempt) but i still feel like shit telling her and making her feel responsible. it’s really weird when i see her bc she’s like one of 4 ppl who know and i just feel like a dick it’s so embarassing
I’ve also been held virtually hostage by people online, who threaten their own lives if you don’t talk to them 24/7. It’s really an absolutely horrible feeling. And if it ever happens to me again, I’m gonna drop them a list of multiple helplines, and block them. Because I’m not going through that again…
well if you block them, drop a list of headline phone numbers is fine but what about suicidal problems? (unrelated to the pokimane's situation) You should do the opposite, talk to them for several days and find another person to talk if you had enough suffering to talk with them
@@nonameguy155Because it's not his responsibility. A lot of the time, people who threaten suicide if you don't talk to them are controlling you, intentionally or not, in a toxic friendship. If he doesn't feel like it's healthy for him to adopt other people's problems, then he doesn't have to.
My oldest son has had a couple of girlfriends threaten to off themselves if they broke up. He was still a teenager at the time and he is a very caring, sensitive person so these girls saying stuff like that to him was an enormous emotional burden. It is very sad how that statement has become the go to thing to say in order to emotionally blackmail someone, especially when there are people out there who actually do feel low enough to do something like that to themselves and not just for attention
One of my best friends had a girlfriend who threatened to off herself, so he stayed with her for a couple of months then when they broke up again, she had a "pregnancy scare". We were both 16 at the time Hope your son is doing better now, these sorts of people sniff out what will work on you... horrible
On the note of what Charlie said about his VA experience with the one person, I dealt with that in a relationship and being a hostage in a relationship, let alone a professional sense, is extremely uncomfortable and dangerous
@@KeiraBrave Not the original, but the truth is your take is a little bit oblivious. When you say 'just leave!' it begs the question: where to? A lot of people don't really have an option to leave because they have nowhere to go: the apartment they live in with the abuser MAY belong to the abuser and the victim may have no money and no opportunities to go somewhere else but the streets. That is to say, abuser will likely follow them and try to bring them back any means necessary, be it violence towards them or crushing and destroying the place the victim opt to stay instead. The desire not to subject other people to the same shit the victim is going through is very natural: they don't want to deal with an immense feeling of guilt for their abuser ruining their friends/family/hotel owners' property on top of everything else. Calling cops doesn't work in a lot of countries. For once, the most common thing one will hear in my country for the report of domestic violence or creepy behavior: "Not our business. Come to us when there's a dead body". No shit. Just like that. And once the cops leave, the victim remains with their abuser alone, and the abuser is now fucking pissed the cops were called in the first place. One is very lucky to have friends and family who will believe them and not encourage the victim to stay instead because 'he's going through a faze' or 'you're exaggerating it'. And the first thing a lot of abusers and manipulators do - is attempt to cut off any helpful connection a victim may have beside the abuser themselves. The abusers often either chase away and antagonize the family members and friends of the victim so the victim has no one to turn to, OR they build up a reputation of an Ideal Partner TM so none of victim's family and friends will believe the victim. This shit is fucking discouraging. The whole idea of manipulative behavior is to put your victim into a state of mind where they either unable to seek help due to objective circumstances (financial/legal/distance to cover to get help) or subjective "feeling of being trapped" (fear/guilt/gaslighting into thinking all of that is victim's fault). That's why cases of abuse are a tricky thing to deal with: those are the stories of people who were stripped of power to fight against unfair treatment one way or another. People with a clear understanding (and in possession) of opportunities you've described rarely fall under such predicament.
I know this is one comment among thousands but thank you for sharing your own story. That is an all too common situation young people on the internet experience from other individuals and it's very, very hard to deal with at the time even though in hindsight it is so easy to say "well I should have just blocked them." The s**cide baiting, the manipulation, the clinging-on -- it is so hard to handle and I really hope you sharing your story allows others (especially men) to feel less like they're weird for experiencing the same thing. As a woman I know I've dealt with it on many occasions over my youth but it's something that can happen to anyone and it's so difficult to get out of.
I’ve had the same thing happened to me this girl she supposedly had a learning disability that’s what my friend told me and she would just keep texting me and wouldn’t leave me alone and if I didn’t respond sometimes she’d be like I’m so depressed I think I’ve been depressed since I was born and my mother just ran away I don’t know if she’s coming back and I’m only happy when I’m talking to you and then should be like I think you’re cute and she’d be like do you like me or wanna be my boyfriend and I’m like no and then she’d be like why not I would say I’m not attracted to you and we would do that again and again and again then she said something about nudes and I was like only send those to people you really trust not me you don’t know me I’m a stranger
@@Joem2648 yeah true, but one gender very grossly imbalances the scales on the specific topic of divide baiting and self harm, that same gender is also VERY DAMN SIMILARLY, EXACTLY TO CORRECT MYSELF, doing the self harm thing ingeneral -not even for the threatening relationship for thing, just self harm to themselves. And we all know why they do it. It’s the same reason they paint their cars all pink at 50/60yrs old. The same reason 45 yr olds wear booty shorts and wear all pink clothing and such type styles. It’s because the attention well is never deep enough, it’s astonishing the greed and never ending lust and embarrassing 🙈 insecurity of attention seeking. When does it end? When do you get satisfied? When can you ever turn it off and act normal and not desperately clamor for attention still at 40/50/60 even 70 yrs old! It’s gross, you’re 40. I don’t need to comment on the 50/60s. There’s no debate, everyone’s gross at that age. Not sorry, because everyone is at that age. But for some strange reason one gender has the other outpaced by light years literally and generations length in categorizing and objectifying the rationality in attention and praise and being liked and cool and popular waaayyyy before 50/60yrs old. Folks, get a grip, it’s not even close to sexy, it’s gross. Not figuratively, literally you are gross. Nobody thinks you’re cool or sexy and attractive. Grow up, you’re 60. Get a grip
I remember being in a similar situation when I was in like 8th-9th grade. Tho it didn’t get as serious bc it was another kid around my age for sure, but they would always kinda trauma dump and want to talk to the point that I had to cut things off for my own mental health. One of the hardest lessons to learn especially as a people pleaser, you are not responsible for another persons happiness.
My brother spent alot of time in a bad friend group cause everytime he tried to separate they pulled fake suicide threats on him and he was too scared to call the bluff. When I eventually found out I lost my mind. Especially having my close friend experience real suicidal thoughts. My brother stopped caring soon after and they gave up trying to guilt trip him back to them
@@JonnyUnderrated Loads of people talk about it. It's always happened, it's just on the rise a little more than usual right now, but it totally is talked about.
I haven’t heard as many different ways to phrase “beating meat” than I heard Charlie speak in this video
yo what’s good
Ay wassup
We can all learn a thing or two from Charlie's vocabulary. But hey bro for real, I hope you're staying up after this tough year you deserve it. 🤙
I recommend “Casual Geographic” for new ways to phrase that something died
Wutizgoinevry! Didn't expect to see the Man of Bower on Charlie's video also yeah, he does indeed have unique zingers 😂
"Sorry Pokimane the video is going to be a bit late because I jizzed all over my keyboard again" - The editor probably
Normal comment so you don't go insane
@MohWer_UTTP Is what your mother told you to do.
@MohWer_UTTPcrazy, what do you get off on spamming this stuff?
@uttpspacecadetI love Mike Tyson too
@@cursed_basilisk6947 they’re trying to reap as much negative karma as possible lmao
"Im sorry, its just so hard to edit with one hand"-the editor 💀💀💀
need some VR retina-controlled editing or some shit so he can multitask
No it's not. Lazy ass editor...
Naw man, he probably uses both hands. Those nipples aren't gonna squeeze themselves.
_(edited)_
😂😂😂@@deadringer-cultofdeathratt8813
“Squeezing the hog”, “chocking the chicken”, “playing the skin flute” 😂😂 Charlie has an amazing vocabulary
Fr
polishing his scepter, even.
“I flogged the one eyed snake. I skinned my sausage. I milked my eel into a pot of turtle stew.”
Brother, you couldn't waterboard that information out of me.
I grant you a human comment. Sorry for the bots man that's not fun
If you see this you should reply to this guy he saved my cat from a snowstorm
If you see this you should reply to this guy too he saved my dog from a heatstroke
All these replies bots bruh😭
The reply bots be playing too much cod
This is why Asmongold’s editor is lightning fast. He can’t wait to get his eyes off him.
Hahaha
Jesus
LOOOOOOL!!!!
lmao
catching strays jesus christ LOL
Dude, 1-2 weeks of not submitting an assignment due to this is insane…
Ikr sounds like the dude needed an excuse cause he was lacking and probably wanted to “shoot his shot” before getting let go
fr bruh like you would think after he finished once he would get clarity and do his job, like how would you be weeks late
Was this dude beating his meat for 2 weeks straight?? That's... Definitely insane.
a small correction: it happened years ago, he didn't say that he was beating his meat to her, but simply had a big p**n addiction problem. So yeah, she misspoke, Charlie blew it up, she corrected herself on twitter. As always, content farming.
Fr, mf must've been going for an edge streak 💀
jackson scamming charlie not for his money but for his friendship is probably the most wholesome thing ever
yeah, scamming, not for money or to ruin someone’s life, but to be their friend sounds pretty wholesome lol
It’s so weird though 😭 like that was not healthy at all.
@@ashton8223 I had to watch it a few times but the weird guy wasn't Jackson. Charlie kinda glossed over it too quickly and the stories blended together
@@Karasamuneyeah I noticed that as well lol
Being somebody’s penpal was weird for him lol
"choking the chicken to it" and "playing the skin flute" being said so casually had me in tears
"Polishing his sceptor" 😂😂 lmao
"squeezing your hog" is up there too
...i thought they were common phrases
@Vince_mik yeah heard most of em
@@Vince_mik idk where you're hearing these often to think they're common
"LISTEN BOSS, I AM FUCKING OBLITERATING MY WEINER" caught me so off guard
holy shit i read this at the exact same time he said it. no one cares, i know, but that was impeccable.
@@LightBlueVans The "AND THERES NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT" makes it so much funnier to me
Wiener*
Lmao fr
😂😂😂😂
Bro probably has a humiliation fetish of some sort, because there is NO WAY he thought it was a good idea to reveal his dark secret like that
dude used up a whole box of cleenex when she mentioned him on stream
It's the Boogie effect. Humiliation play at a high level.
honestly probably just mad pron brain where he expected her to smash or smthn
Not even batman would ever get that info outta me. Guy has completely lost it.
how is it a good idea for her to reveal this...
her chat is fr playing shocked while typing with one hand
LOL
Exactly 😂
I don't get why alot of people find poki that attractive.
@@lohostege she's an acquired taste per say some like her bcs of looks some just like her body others are just desperate
@@lohostege have you seen her before the glow up? She was a real baddie back when she wsn't a dummy
"legendary gooning sesh" and "polishing his scepter" are wild words.
"polishing his scepter" is from a Skyrim book called the Lusty Argonian Maid
@@androidunit56 never knew that, but i do remember certain things of that nature being spoken about in haelga's bunkhouse
Ha ... peen septor polishing is a very old phrase
B4 Nintendo even
But still hits when used and abused, like ur septor... stop that. Leave it alone
@@androidunit56 The Lusty Argonian Maid is originated from The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind, not The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
nah 6:13 is crazier
I like how her chat is acting shocked like there isn’t a bunch of goobers gooning to her right now lol
my culture is not your costume
They weren't shocked that someone else was gooning but shocked with an interpretation to their own.
Literally in the first 5 second of the clip someone in her chat said "Do you have a fetish?"
😂
@@fire.walk.with.me.430💀
Surprisingly fast one handed typers in that chat
Not even the Men in Black could erase this from my memory
You're telling me that you would want to permanently remember this information?
@@soupermegeri think they're implying the information is so scarring that they cannot have it removed from their psyche. Idk, the comment is written weirdly.
@@winstonpeanutbutteroooh, that makes a lot more sense.
@@winstonpeanutbutterthe comment is saying that even with the memory remover thing from Men in Black it won't remove his memory
@@thehansboi yeah that's what I just said
that jackson lore was so unprompted and so appreciated. thats hilariously funny you guys are still friends
He really threw him under the bus on that one… lmao
I find it terrifying. I've listened to Jackson on the podcast for about a year and he doesn't seem like this at all. He seems so normal and for him to come off as The Cable Guy seems so scary...
@@Peein555huh?? he doesn't seem like the cable guy though. he just scammed charlie for his friendship? the story charlie is telling about the guy on skype isn't jackson
@@vivineon he literally said it was jackson, open ur ears bud
@@boblatte123 7:52 he says this happened *after* he met jackson, meaning it wasn't jackson. he became close friends with jackson after he scammed him for friendship, but jackson wasn't the guy he dedicated half the video to talking about
Pokimane's chat be acting like they don't do the same as the editor 💀
(Beating meat)
"That's awful Poki😱"
"That's awful! What colors are your socks today?"
Exactly
sure, but it's one thing to get off to a video and another thing entirely to be employed by that person, tell them directly that you get off to their content and use it as an excuse for work being late. that's completely insane lmao
Exactly lmao. Foh. They’re just as bad
Bro FBI, CIA, KGB, Mexican cartels, KFC, nobody would get this information out of me.
I hate it when the KFC worker asks me if I'm jerking it to my boss as I'm ordering
KFC would only get puke out of me bro
Bro sneaked in KFC 💀
Ah yes the KFC, the deadliest 3 letter agency in the world
Why is KFC after you what did you do? 😭
"Polishing his scepter"
Bro had me cackling
That one has to be the best
i read this comment at the same time he said it. Hilarious
The wizard’s goon
At this point he was grinding it with sparks coming out everywhere onto everything
Not even the lasso of truth could get that information out of me
hostage therapist situation is so real, universal online experience
Yeah especially the, I will kill myself if you don't do this and that. The pressure of them putting their life on the line because you want to distance yourself and you don't actually know if they are going to go through their threat
Oh man for real. 3 of my friends been in the situation and myself. This dude was on the "I'm gonna kms" thing but then tried flirting with me. I'm a guy btw. Yeah...
omg
Why is you being s guy important to the story@@ub3rfr3nzy94
Fr
"do you have a minute to talk" is how my boss pulled me to the side to make it sound like i was in trouble to my coworkers but i was just getting a raise 😂
Big brain plays lmaoooo W boss. They understand the fish eat fish world and how even your coworkers will eat you alive if they know you get "special treatment" or literally anything that _they_ aren't getting lol, they can get extremely envious.
I worked with a girl who was on welfare and basically got handed the job for free because they were "like" family to the boss, but not blood-related. She could only work a set amount of hours and only get paid so much hourly wage, so she'd intentionally work off the clock, take hour long lunches, etc, otherwise she'd lose her benefits for a month or 2 weeks, idk how it all worked but anyways, she made sure I'd remember this because I swear she told me this story like half a dozen times or at least expressed her anger about it and how much she hated this other coworker, who was getting paid way way more than her, but he was struggling and actually had to move a couple times while I was working there, had to take care of himself, his brother, pay rent to his aunt who he moved in with temporarily, and also had a girlfriend. But he wasn't out blowing his money on this and that. Meanwhile this chick who's had everything handed to her, is obnoxiously loud about going to a club EVERY SINGLE WEEKEND just to dance with guys but not want to even do anything with them, and acting surprised that they do, which shows she's self-aware because she's the one I hear this from, it's just all very weird. And she was living with her mom, which I won't judge, due to the state of the world and money rn, I have to do the same thing, but she wasn't even paying much for rent either. It's just like. I don't know. A mentality and perspective type thing. Even I feel bad for talking about these new games I was buying and playing to the other coworker, even if it was just because it was things I enjoyed, because I was more funding my hobbies (still within reason) while he was struggling and just making ends meet. There was talk about us all getting raises after some performance test at another location in the summer (never happened), and I just KNOW she was thinking, "he doesn't need that raise, he already has so much more pay than me,, he doesn't need it, he doesn't deserve it, it should only be me"
LIke she even told me she didn't wanna know how much my pay was because she knew she'd be too mad to handle it. As if it's her business to begin with. Like...? Forgot to mention, the only reason she knew what dude's pay was, is because she opened his check that was in the office (it was already unsealed but she 100% pulled it out and looked at it) and she threw a fit at the boss (basically like her uncle which is why it was deemed as okay) Wild stuff man... I don't think I'd believe this story if I didn't live it myself!
So if I were ever anyone's boss, I'd probably do the same lmao. But I rather just work from home anyways, cuz more freedom. XD
What’s a raise😂
@@koganeitou You act like Companies dont design the system for that exact response? They want their workers to be that jealous. The last thing they want is for employees to get along and discuss pay. Thats how unions form.
I legit pull that line regardless of the conversation. I'm trying to make it disarming for my team.
More money@@ShakeHandsWithBeef9946
Getting a good friend through them scamming you is a hell of a story
One of my best friends from middle school I smashed his fingers between our desks on accident literally day 1 of class. he was seriously pissed about it and thought I did it on purpose
@@almicc Because you did. Looked on purpose to me atleast.
@@almicc I was there, you did it on purpose
@@ohritz3939 can confirm. i was the desk, and before anyone asks, i was both desks
@@almicc i was reading the evil intent in your mind, i was the table
Unfortunately also met a guy through voice acting who had a crush on me even though he was working for me. He told me he wanted to see pics of my body and shamed me for eating chocolate when i was stressed because "Isn't that what far people do?"
He then threatened to unalive if I didn't accept his advances or give him the role he wanted. It messed me up for a while.
Voice acting? (Ima act like i didnt hear that terrible story just now)
What stuff did you do?
@@notreal2513what is this? linked in?
I had an ex who told me that if I didn't get back with him he was going to kill himself, the first time I fell for his manipulation, the second I asked him what color he wanted the flowers. 😅
thats so unfair wtf!!! how entitled can men be sometimes 😭 it sucks u had to go thru that, i hope you're doing better now
@@nesspyri had a good couple of girls that acted like this too, doubt its gender specific xd
“Polishing his sceptre” is the most wild alternative to tugging your slug 💀💀💀
"Tugging your slug" caught me off gaurd 💀
Yeah it gives the image this guy was constantly trying to pull the OL' 🗡️ from the stone ....... Imagine how baby smooth those dick beaters are lol
Making the cyclops cry
Hand to gland combat
tugging your slug is a wild alternative to wonking your willy
how tf did he think this was going to end well for him?
Hi
Damn sorry you got botted bro
So many bots
L bots
UA-cam has a big bot problem
They see me goonin, they hatin
From my experience on the internet, they tend to join instead.
Gotta catch me j*rkin dirty, gotta catch me j*erkin dirty
As a g00ner, It's relatable 😎
@@GooeySplat Name checks out.
Your PFP is nasty...
@@PanoptesDreams lovely* it's making me g00n rn
Can’t believe Jackson was slapping his third leg to Charlie before they became friends
“Slapping his third leg”
At this point I’ve heard of more ways to describe someone masturbating than ways to greet someone
6:09 "an immuculate goey nut".. "this is democracy manifest"
i love the direction this went and hate that I knew it was going in this direction the moment tthe accent changed
Ooh how do I tell Charlie I goon to his videos 👉 👈 😖😖
@@Skibiddysigmaohoo as long as youre not his editor, then feel free.
as a queenslander the joy i felt when i heard that, always love when australian memes get referenced
@madge140 as a perthian i also thoroughly enjoy australian memes 😌
@@scrapeddiamonds5776Luckiest editor job ever. 3 minutes of cutting where ever you want to
the "online friend" who just uses you as a therapist and gets mad when you don't respond was all too well known to me as a teen, I was fr consoling grown ass 24 yr old men about their failing marriage at 16, people on the internet are wack
24 and married?
@@keo5496no, you can't get married at that age, right?
I know a 24yo who's divorced with 2 kids with different women. People do stupid shit all the time. @keo5496
I'm 21 and married
@@-spacedout--spacebound-7438 hope it works out
I worked in teen helpline for six years and what you experienced we called being taken "emotionally hostage". You did the exactly right thing and for anyone watching this who's going through the same, you should know that:
- If you want to try to help them, recommending seeking professional help and breaking contact IS the best thing for them.
- Emotional hostagetaking is a manipulation tactic and you are NOT responsible for this persons actions. Even if they say you are.
-You do NOT owe them anything. So if you are too overwhelmed to even recommend them seeking help, its okay to break contact entirely. They are not entitled to any of your time and your own welfare is your primary concern
do you block the people that call you as well?
@Ulim151 do you hold people emotionally hostage and threaten to shed this mortal coil?
My longterm girlfriend is suicidal and I keep recommending therapy and she isn't seeking help.. I feel responsible for her life on the bad days. What should my steps be?
@Callumm2516 how long term we talking? That does matter to some degree
@@Mrholysymbol 3 years, and I love her, but the mental health is effecting us and me a lot.
“playing the skin flute” is absolutely wild💀
Charlie having his own baby reindeer moment wasn’t on my bingo card for today
lmao fr
Stalker hg lul
What does a baby reindeer moment mean?😭😭
@@jigong1838 some British dude got stalked by a crazy lady a few years back and he made a whole Netflix series out of it and called it Baby Reindeer
@@jigong1838baby reindeer is a show on Netflix about a guy being stalked, I haven’t watched but I heard it’s good and it’s based on a true story played by the irl victim
The most pathetic part is the chat acting like they’re offended at the behavior, meanwhile they’re all there for the exact same reason.
Well, that's how the world is. The one who gets caught is the only criminal.
Yeah, they all do it, but they don't ADMIT IT! Like, holy hell, thats the sort of thing you take to your grave!
@@useraccount333 that’s exactly it. Even the streamer knows her fans are mostly just there to spill goon juice to her videos, but at least they’re not going out of their way to tell her.
the difference is that for the viewer, this is just some random woman, but her editor had close connections to her so it's technically worse
And she knows they all watch her for that reason. In fact, conspiracy brain tells me she made this story up just because it re-entrenches her main USP, that she's sooo hot a guy would lose his job to tell her he whacks it to her so much he can't work. That's what all her paypigs pay her for anyways
For anyone wanting an update:
She tweeted that he got fired, but she continued to pay him for a couple months.
She was convinced he had an actual problem with addiction so she covered the money for getting him help. Some people on reddit found who they think it was
okay it's really kind of her to cover the costs of his counselling and help, but in no way does she have to do that !!
even if it is an addiction she does not need to pay him or support him in any way, there's more than enough reason to block him and never contact him in any way again
she is so nice for that
I was thinking about that, kudos to her. Not a big fan of Pokimane but that's really caring of her.
Oh w of her for that hope he really does get help
@@tokkirotnice observation captain obvious, you really cracked that case!
@@tokkirot Stick to K-pop since that is the only brain rot topic you know, regard.
1:20 moist your are in fact wrong. Thats the sentence that almost got lightning McQueen signed to dinoco.
*You get sent to Hell*
Satan: *Pulls you to the side* "Hey, can we talk?"
Satan: “You’re going to super hell!”
,,I'm a big fan of yours. Can I have your autograph?"
*gulp*
@@lukacs7161 worst form of torture for some artists xD hahhahhah~!!
straight to the second layer of hell
Charlie's story is insanely relatable. I've met sooo many people like that online. Only thing to do is either ignore them or block them because if you give them the slightest attention they won't leave you alone/start threatening unaliving themselves
And here I am, telling them that Gillette razor blades are on sale. There's only so much empathy you can have for random people, especially with the annoying ones.
I’d probably tell them to talk to a chatbot
@@DeadpoolX9 ok
Been there before, not with an online stranger. I just decided "If they die, they die. Won't put that on me, or on myself". 3 years later they're still pretty much alive. I'm not saying they won't do it, but even if they do that's not on you. You don't make decisions for other people, they do.
Reminds me of the Kwite situation...
I'm going to buy a windowless van, spray paint voice actor needed on the side, and drive around Florida until Charlie gets in.
What are you going to do once he gets in?
@@broek6075have a slap off.
@@broek6075Plankton's, "I didn't think I'd get this far."
@@broek6075keep Charlie in my basement in definitely, had my favourite pet, the wild homeless Florida man 😂
I look forward to the day I read the headline: Florida Man hunting for Voice Actor out of RV
“thank you ma’am for your service this will be a legendary gooning sesh” 😂😂😂
Its the fact that Charlie predicted this would happen a while back LOL
lol what vid?
I thought this actually happened back then, guess it was deja vu
REAL
@@p-__only respectable bot in the comment section
Jesus christ every reply is a bot
Tip : if someone keeps threatening self harm for you simply not talking to them as a manipulative tactic, call the police and ask them to do a wellness check on them. If they’re actually struggling you could potentially help them better their situation, if they’re faking it, the police showing up to their door should be a scare enough to leave you alone
Definately dont do this if you are in the US; unless you want them to get shot
@UTTP-Clockworker ok
@UTTP-Clockworker huh
@UTTP-Clockworker Clown
I've done this and it works
I didn’t even know u could phrase “ beating meat” with such variety, I’m beyond impressed
The editor: 'pokemaine I'm sowwy becawse of being behind the deadline 👉🏻👈🏻, it's becawse I've been beating my meat instead of beating the deadline for weeks sowwy 🥺 👉🏻👈🏻❤️
Accept Jesus Christ he loves u died n rose again for ur forgiveness 🙏🏽❤️❤️🔥
Daddy vladdy
@@onlyenzoYT lies
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You know… for someone basically being manipulated into a very intense and dangerous friendship w a random online, you were rly nice to keep repeating to him he needed professional help, cause it probably did end up getting thru to him since he probably idolized you yk… appreciate you doing that for someone who was harming you… Shows a lot about you blessings to you bro
Hard to edit with sticky keys enabled.
nahhhhhhhh
LMAO
Lol
@@Bfkcjscbsnjc k buddy :D
😂 good one
When I was a teen I'd vent to a friend CONSTANTLY about my depression and suicidal ideation, and there came a point where she just had to (metaphorically) sit me down and go "This is not good for my mental health and I don't think you're pursuing the help you need, I do not want to keep encouraging this."
That broke my heart and even years later, though we're still friends, I feel awful about it, but it did make me stop venting and look into other avenues of getting help, because I didn't want to do that to other friends.
What Charlie went through is different since that dude wasn't a friend and was very obsessive over him, but I wanted to say this because sometimes the best thing for a person like that is to go "I cannot help you, please get help" and leave it there.
@@jesustyronechrist2330its bad. Its part of why the male suicide rate is so high. You have real pieces of shit who abuse others repeadtedly, and then that trauma is never addressed by the victim and they become wary of all men, and then like you said it becomes almost a propoganda story to spread on reddit and say "men bad, men dangerous, men animals". And then geniunely wholesome dudes get fucked up cuz theyre treated with hate due to actions of other people.
And all the while, people are imploring the same logic racists use to say men pose a risk of danger. But I digress
@@jesustyronechrist2330it does help. Talking about what you feel is a very very very good thing.
If you don't think it helps because you went to fucking reddit and happened upon one of the universally known dumbass subreddits (i say this as a woman), that's fully on you. There are loads of people who will just listen, or offer actual good advice.
Your friend isn't your therapist.
I've been in your friends shoes and it's literally awful when all someone does is bring your mood down and most of the time the person venting doesn't even ask anything about me just constantly complain
@@notweeweeYea they are. I'm that friend. Sometimes when i'm struggling with my own things, i tell them i need a little time before i can listen to them. But that's my job as a friend.
The fact he admitted it like it was no big deal too 💀
Obsessed, delusional, not socialized, or all of the above
He didnt tho.. if he admitted it like it was no big deal he wouldnt have waited so long to say it or have asked to talk beforehand silly goose
You would not get that kind of confession out of me even with torture. The fact that he admitted it freely is insane.
@@p-__ W farts
Like he thinks, poki is gonna find that endearing, my brother in christ this isn't a cheesy Netflix teen flick
My hostage situation ended when they blocked me. Almost got prolonged by my friends getting friended by them out of the blue.
Bro cannot edit videos without drooling
@UTTP-Clockworker oh!
He needs a reality check and some lipton iced tea
@@Whynot-wm5roI saw the story from dramaalert earlier today
Why TF would you ever tell her that?😂
Bots really raided this comment
He told her because he thinks she will like it and ask to watch. That's how is brain works
I see, what are some other parts of his thought process?
@@RetirededKat Other parts are, me touch weiner, she likely, we live in cave together.
@@RetirededKatthinks she will also sex
@@RetirededKat Maybe thinking she'd let him hit
@RetirededKat there was a thought proccess behind that?
Bro was more focused on his edging streak than his job 💀💀💀💀
But how does it delay a video for a week? Masturbating would be 30 mins long max
But how does it delay a video for a week? Edging would be 30 mins max an hour maybe
@@davedave3520 Edge lord
@@GA1.6Tbro is a supreme edger honestly probs ig
@@davedave3520 What??? That's the problem with the world nowadays, edging isn't a 30min exercise, you won't even BEGIN to peek into the goon-trance enlightenment with less than 90 minutes of focused, restrained goon time.
30 min... fucking pathetic amateurs smh
Oh god, the story he had at the end. I had an irl friend who would get super mad if I didn't get back to him in time with texts. Would get offended if I visibly didn't want any unwanted physical touch. And yes, at the end of our "friendship" he said he was gonna end it. A few days after that I said we aren't friends anymore and he gaslit me to high heaven and told me how terrible I was...
Then years later he ended up being a somewhat successful smash streamer, and then got involved in the Me too movement. I heard about that and called his ass out in our friend group and they were all surprised and mad at him.
People are insane
He got involved in the MeToo movement? As in the victim or the ceeep??
@@aeoligarlic4024 as in supporting victims
When he himself was a weirdo
@@ElephantseatShorts This is a perfect example as to why male feminists are the biggest eyebrow raisers in the fucking planet
@@ElephantseatShortsbased on the information you gave he’s not a weirdo that’s just normal relationship stuff partners will get annoyed if you deny them physical touch like wym I can’t hug you or cuddle you or kiss you we in a relationship that comes with it if it happens a few times sure I’ll give u ur space but if you continue we arnt in a relationship because part of being in a relationship is physical. Now I understand if you disagree which is perfectly fine but guess what that means we don’t have to be in a relationship and probably why he left no weirdo activity he saw something he didn’t like in you which a lot of guys wouldn’t and left
@@anonymous-go1tq no, he was threatening self deletion if I didn't stay as his friend and give him intimate things. I was not even a smidge romantically into him. That ain't normal.
And when I finally stood up for myself, he made me the bad guy and sent me scorning hate messages. I still have em saved because I had to prove it to my friend group how toxic he was
I missed the shift in Charlie's story where he went from talking about how he met Jackson to a similar experience with another guy and I was like "woah wtf I can't believe Jackson did all this! How are they still such good friends?"
SAME I was rewinding the video to try to figure out when tf the switch was
7:52 is start of toxic dude
lol same i was so confused
Wait, he was talking about two different people?
me too i was so confused
“Hey do you have a minute to talk” is literally the quickest way to PTSD
Tryna get famous huh
"hey do you have minute to get traumatized?"
“Can we talk?”
“I need to tell you something.”
“We have something to discuss.”
@@p-__ dude you've been saying this since 2020, don't you get tired?(I know its a bot)
That sentence always gives me instant anxiety
choking the chicken and polishing the scepter are crazy wordages
He do be brushing his Fossil
@kingboo_2237 my man taking the snake for a walk
I'm dead 😂😂
lord these are hilarious
Oh I've got so many of these, making the cyclops cry is my favorite
Bro is waxing his carrot
charlie’s story is why I don’t feel a damn thing about blocking people. y’all don’t feel bad about setting up a boundary, protect yourselves
its just what it is, cant help it dude 😭
I'm still hooked on the "week or two" part of the story. Like, bro, it would have been easier to make up something at that point. Your rub-a-dub delayed you for at least a week? Absolute lunatic.
Well he's a Twitch Mod, if anything, he thinks he makes the rules.
He was hoping for a positive reaction to engage in more fantasy pr0n
this is all allegations without any proof. who knows if shes actually telling the truth dawg. the 'i didnt know what to do, i felt so bad so i kept paying him for months' part is REALLY sketchy. like. really? that doesn't sit right AT ALL. especially knowing how she was to other staffers off stream. if you know, you know. i'm just a random comment what do i know. (:
@@housemana I also do not trust her whatsoever.
@@housemanayeah I agree but knowing how some people are, and how there’s a whole subreddit based on her I wouldn’t be surprised if it was true to some extent
3:15 “Thank you madam for your service, this will be a legendary gooning sesh” 💀💀
550 likes with no reply? let me fix that
Amazing comment
1:50 batman couldn’t get this information out of me
nice
@UTTP-Clockworkerreported
@@lordzanthartehallen8963 no ur reported
@@lordzanthartehallen8963 same
@UTTP-Clockworkerkys
"Polishing his scepter." Got me brooo HAHAHA
Im so glad Charlie shared his own similar personal experience with this, because so many people very quickly and easily blame you for "allowing this to keep going" and tell you that "you must have wanted that person around if you kept them around so you're lying for attention" when in reality, when you are in that kind of situation its so hard to pull back because you feel sorry for the person and you kinda feel responsible for them
Her chat is saying ew as if they don't do the same shit
Fr they were saying it with their off hand 🤣
@@brandonhession8550 Yeah but theyre not getting paid by her and then violating the boundaries of a business relationship. I feel like pokimaine is aware that there are probably ppl who crank their hogs to her, but a lot of them arent letting her know that they do, and theyre not letting her know that while theyre literally being contracted to do work for her and then releasing the work way later than expected.
LMAOO
lmaooo
"Man I should have definitely tried to become an editor in life, imagine being employed by the the streamer of my dreams" **FAP INTENSIFIES**
i like how majority of her chat is like "OH NO", "NO WAY" like they dont do the same
lol they just are taking notes on what not to do
I mean, I highly doubt they are all that bad?? I get they are Simps but actually beating it to someone who isn't even wearing anything that revealing is crazy...wtf
You see it wasn’t him on the call his meat called and snitched on him
@@Ahmed-og2jm bro has not seen IG "models". But fr though, yea I am sure that not everyone in her fanbase is an absolute creep but being a pretty girl in the internet is being a creep magnet. I have never seen her YT videos or streams but purely by judging her IG posts, she definitely farms creeps a bit
@@Ahmed-og2jm bro has never met a porn addict
I learned quick that the internet is full of weirdos. Similarly I was playing a game on steam with a random girl. She asked if we could be friends on steam to play together. I said sure thinking it was platonic and we would just play games together every now and then. Nope, the moment I accepted her friend request she was messaging me everything about her life and wanting to know who I really was. I did the same thing trying to be nice but not feeding into her conversations. Hoping she would get the hint and stop messaging me but after 2 days of ignoring her she started messaging about hurting herself and shit. I just messaged her back saying, I’m sorry but you need to find professional help. Then blocked/unfriended her. It nagged at me for a bit wondering if she ever acted on her threats but I told myself it wouldn’t matter because I didn’t know her and nothing I could do would ever help heal whatever mental illness she was going through.
i do hope she is ok though
Your story was so common back on Skype for some reason, when I was a teenager there were always older people who'd take advantage of how easy it is to pressure you into being their therapist because nobody else in their life wants to talk to them. I don't use Discord but I'd bet it's still a big problem on there too
A lot of the community page hangout servers [on Discord] have this problem.
Though any type of person can be guilty of this but ive noticed a very common trend within certain communities that trauma dumping and public post pity parties are abound.
I typically come across this annoying crap when getting invited to a server for comms for the game I'm playing at that time. It becomes a bit annoying to me when you end up getting invited to like 6 different servers over a period of time by those same people because they wore out their welcome by their posting behavior/soured relationships with others within those servers.
Depends on the kinds of Discord servers you’re in. I typically stay out of huge public servers.
@@zmanrockz6358 yeppers^ this is also the best advice you could get, there you can only find ppl that are DEAD DRY for attention and circlejerks, like anywhere on the internet or shit in classic chatrooms
This def does still happen. I knew so many girls in middle school who talked to much older guys to keep them from killing themselves.
“You’re the one I send hours of foot-age to”
That pause on “foot” has me wondering what was being sent
Same bro but you made me have a stroke reading that
@@Bobbybats4295 damn typos. Thanks for the heads up.
if it helps poki had to tweet later to clarify that he WASN"T getting off to HER, just that he said it TO HER. also someone else found out that she just repeated what a smaller streamer said, so she lied basically
@@DaFifaKid thats crazy where is the tweet where she admits to lying i can't find it
@@DaFifaKid i rlly doubt it was a lie tbh, this is more common than you’d think
I feel like we’ve all had someone in our lives who we let overstay their welcome at least once. Whether it be an old friend, ex-partner, or just some clingy acquaintance, we tolerated them just because we genuinely felt bad for them. But at the same time it’s also the worst because like Charlie said you feel like you’re in a hostage situation. Just know that it’s ok to say no and don’t ever feel like you’re forced to hang out with someone. People who truly care about you will always care also about your well-being.
Yeah I always say to them "NO", cease all contact, and say to myself "none of my business".
Your comment has nothing to do with this video at all. Its an employee/employer issue, not "im feeling guilty about the friends i lost" bs.
@leroytheconvoy713 the end of the video he was talking about a friend taking advantage of him
@@leroytheconvoy713 The last half of the video?
@@leroytheconvoy713did you watched the second half of the video?
Polishing his scepter is crazyy!! hahaha 5:50
Her chat acting concerned and surprised when they probably do the same thing is crazy
turned out she lied anyway, no surprises here given the torrent of drama that comes out of twitch streamers
Best take right here , the whole chat gooning while concern trolling , the degeneracy 🤯
@@kian.bridge Got any proof for us?
Yeah but her chat isn’t employed by her lmaoo
@ayviondenar3461 idk about lying, but she conveyed the information wrong. The editor just had an addiction but wasn't beating his meat to her specifically.
Edit: she said it on twitter
1 month of gooning past deadlines
"Polishing his sceptor"💀😂
I died bro
AS SOON AS i heard that part i scrolled upon this comment
@@TrentSteezesame😂
The sceptre must be polished
“Playing the skin flute” 😂😂
This is like overhearing one of your dads stories while he’s on the phone
Dudes need more friends they feel comfortable sharing sensitive stuff with. If this dude had one good friend, and ran this by him “I’m gonna tell her”, I’d like to think that friend would pull him back to reality.
as a girl I would be glad that he told me so I could fire him immediately. It’s one thing to occasionally yoink off to a girl in your private time, but if you are doing it so much that you can’t meet deadlines and you’re also creepy enough to tell me, you gotta go
@@levithebaddest2369don't you worry she misspoke about some details that happen long time ago and cookies really hits her memories
Maybe dude was just joking around . Girls are have developed a strong sense of immunity to humor (specially risqué ones) so you have to be very npc dialogue when speaking to them
@@zorlockts5744nah, brother. I think you’re being too charitable to this dude. Plus, most girls who you know personally, are pretty good with that type of humour or jokes in general, based off my experience.
@@zorlockts5744except thats not even a funny "joke" for guys to tell their male bosses...
Thats something you might say to your male best friend about why you havent dixed a dent on your car.
Guy was definitely just being honest and weird.
"Busting makes me feel good."
- Ray Parker Jr
Bro 💀
😭 I'm not gonna be able to listen to that song seriously ever again
💀
Threats of suicide if the relationship ends is classic abuse and it can be really hard for someone to set boundaries in a scary situation. Good for you talking about this, and I think also the response to seek a professional because of lack of ability to help is an appropriate response. I've heard worse ways to respond to someone threatening self harm if a relationship ends.
Call their bluff and tell them to put their money where their mouth is, they can miss me with that manipulative shit. Probably one of the worse ways to respond as you said but couldn’t care what happens after for people like that.
1:13 I swear every time someone says “hey can we talk? “Omg My anxiety goes crazyyyyyyy 😭😭
Hey.... Can we talk?
I'm glad you touched on the nuance of the situation and sorry to hear you've gone through something similar
Chatgpt ass comment
As scary as it is, you're not responsible for someone's safety if they're using it as a manipulation tactic. It's imperative you separate yourself from that person upon seeing these red flags. I've already experienced this once and marched through it against my best judgement. I won't ever do that again.
Happened to me too long ago. It was a girl I met in Twitter. Separated myself (I talked about that with her) and never came back. She started tweeting about depression and ending it all. Fast forward to now a year and a half later and she's doing fine. Chronically in Twitter still reposting and posting.
To anyone reading this comment thread, chances are it is indeed a manipulative tactic to get you in their life, not caring about inconveniencing yours and that's not friendship. Do what Charlie says, advice professional help ONCE and leave. Anything that happens or doesn't happen isn't your fault or even your concern anymore. Continue your life inside and outside your house 👍.
Exactly, the second someone starts threatening self-harm/s*icide to coerce you into behaving a certain way via emotional blackmail, you now have full permission to tell them that it's not your responsibility, that it's unreasonable to demand you walk on eggshells for fear of them maybe harming themself and that, if they're serious, they need to go to talk to a professional instead.
And if you're as mean as me, you can also say "Fine, do it. No, go ahead, you said you would, so do it". They're not for real, it's just a coercive tactic and nothing makes that clearer than when they just stare back sheepishly because they didn't plan for that reaction.
@@RK-dc2es "And if you're as mean as me, you can also say "Fine, do it. No, go ahead, you said you would, so do it". They're not for real, it's just a coercive tactic and nothing makes that clearer than when they just stare back sheepishly because they didn't plan for that reaction."
Nailed it. I'm an asshole so would have no problems saying this. But I think that if they threaten this, theyre being the bigger asshole so I'm all good lmao
Charlie's story of the guy who messaged him constantly reminds me of when I had a very similar situation on Xbox 360. Met a dude on Red Dead Online while playing with my friends and he seemed cool so when he sent a friend request I accepted it. At first it was just game joining requests and then it progressed to friendly chatter. But it quickly became this dude sending me voice messages over Xbox crying, pleading for me to get online and talk to to him (i started getting creepy vibes from him) otherwise he'd kick the bucket. It was and still is the strangest and craziest experienced I've had online involving someone I never actually met in real life.
ur a girl huh?
This person, and Charlie's person, were people were trying to either groom or scam you (and Charlie). Predators do this kind of stuff to younger people to try and lure them into doing whatever it is they plan. Sometimes it's just getting attention, sometimes it's far more sinister. Glad to hear that you (and Charlie) got out of those situations relatively unscathed. Weirded out, but okay generally.
To anyone reading this, don't coddle someone who says they'll kill themselves. Offer them resources to get help and just move on with your life. 95% of the time, they're just doing it to manipulate you.
god i’m sorry you had to deal with that. the whole time he was talking about that and specifically the threats to end one’s life if he didn’t respond is SUCH a manipulative behavior. and the streamer… i feel so bad for her bc we know this culture and how misogynistic these spaces can be.
haha there are many perverts hunting for young prey. stay away from weirdos right away. don't let them grab your attention or you gonna pay big price for it
If someone ever tries to use suicide to guilt you into something, block them. You don't owe random people on your friends list your time and it's a bad situation if you dread talking to them every time you get a message or get online. For your own mental health, do not tolerate people saying they'll kill themselves if you stop talking to them or doing what they say.
"Sorry i'm late, I run a farm on the side. Fresh tenderized hogs.
Charlie in an unwilling classic toxic online relationship is crazy lore
The bot ragebait comments have finally become completely incoherent
@@thisisaterribleargument_but I'd say these are 13 y/o's creating these but I've been disproven time and time again. they are likely 16 and were never given any love by their mama.
@@thisisaterribleargument_but I literally do not understand why youtube often censors very mild comments, but allows this crap to fester in many popular channels.
@@thisisaterribleargument_butis it just me or does the "Read more" say "erom daeR" ("Read more" backwards)? It's only for the bots under this comment.
that bot reply was also not what i had on my 2024 bingo card and I'm mildly concerned
That personal anecdote is so real, I feel like most of us have had a some sort of run in like that with someone online that really needs a friend but they go about it in a very strange and obsessive way.
Your story of that guy reminds me of an online friend I had. They have/had mental issues such as abandoment issues, BPD, anxiety disorders, etc. They were a pretty close friend in my friend circle. Fun to be around until they had one of their episodes. Over the years I felt bad for them and listened to their issues and tried helping them. There was one time they were planning on taking their life. I freaked out and was crying and contacting my friend circle trying to get help. Someone managed to get the cops to the friend's house. They were alive, but pissed the cops were called. There would be many breakdowns from them and me trying to help out. So many "I promise I changed! I'm seeing a new therapist!" that back into the usual messes. Years go by and, due to my own mental issues, fell into a deep depression of my own. And becauae of this I realized I'm not fit enough to help anyone else - not even myself. I had it. I broke things off with that friend. They got clingy and would make new accounts and try to talk to me through my other friends. My friends are well aware of these episodes and behaviors and my stance on it. I want nothing to do with this person. It was tough, but I'm glad I freed myself. Oh, also my mental health is amazing nowadays (due to many other reasons, not just this).
Not trying to discredit if the other person had a mental illness but when im having depressive episodes I don't reach out to anyone because I already realize how much of a burden my mental health takes on me that I don't want to force that onto others. Person may just want companionship because they're lonely.
Congrats for getting yourself through it! That's never easy. All we can do for the other person is hope they figured life out too
Great that you got better man. The same stuff happened to me with my ex. Every time I'd breakdown from the emotional distraught it was always "I can change! I can stop right now!" (she was abusing drugs). Luckily at some point I came to my senses through other friends telling me to break things up.
And like you said, it's always tough but the toughest situations make you grow and learn the most.
@@damienperez7776for sure they do, but there is a way to ask without being clingy and respecting boundaries. The way this person kept making accounts and trying to push for contact when they clearly did not want it because it was just such an emotional tax especially given their own issues is just too much and this person was 100% right for breaking contact. Some people only tell you about all the wrong in their life and have no room for other subjects nor have any awareness and/or care of your boundaries.
too lazy to fill out a paragrph but uh idk good job dude
Charlie out of context gonna be a heck of a montage😂
Being in a situation like that where someone’s basically holding themselves “hostage” threatening their own life is just the absolute worst feeling. Because once you’re in that situation there’s nothing you can really do. It’s easy to think you’d say “that’s not my problem” in that type of scenario, but when it actually does happen you feel a level of responsibility for that person. It’s truly terrifying, knowing what you say next may prevent or cause someone to do something horrible.
Of course it sucks for the person feeling that way, but they really need to seek actual professional help, because I don’t think they understand the emotional torment they cause when then put that type of responsibility for their lives on someone else
I am happy to say that I am at the age where if someone tried to guilt me into feeling that way (responsible for their actions) I would and could block them from my reality
It's a malicious tactic. They KNOW the emotional turmoil it causes, they know it'll make people want to stay, that's why they do it. I've known too many people like this and I dropped them like hot potatoes, and guess what? They're still kicking out there, living and breathing and hopefully have grown up and gotten professional help since then. It's scary the first few times you deal with people like that, but once you recognize what's going on? Just run.
@@Cuil Yeah it’s manipulative for sure, whether or not they realize it. I think in most cases it is safe to run like that because they won’t actually do anything. In my case unfortunately the person I was talking to actually had done something in the past and survived, so I had trouble taking that risk of running away.
Meh... It's their life so that's their choice. 2 girls already tried that with me and I was like : "i have other things to do, stop ruining my day". Nothing happened.
real. i told one of my exes i was gonna kms (i wasn’t faking it i really was suicidal and did attempt) but i still feel like shit telling her and making her feel responsible. it’s really weird when i see her bc she’s like one of 4 ppl who know and i just feel like a dick it’s so embarassing
4:30 "hours of foot-age"
now she realizes what he was looking at
It was a Freudian slip
I’ve also been held virtually hostage by people online, who threaten their own lives if you don’t talk to them 24/7. It’s really an absolutely horrible feeling. And if it ever happens to me again, I’m gonna drop them a list of multiple helplines, and block them. Because I’m not going through that again…
This might make me like a weirdo but I had that happen to me multiple times I usually just block them cuz its not really my problem
well if you block them, drop a list of headline phone numbers is fine but what about suicidal problems? (unrelated to the pokimane's situation) You should do the opposite, talk to them for several days and find another person to talk if you had enough suffering to talk with them
It's a manipulation tactic even if it's a subconscious one. Don't give in to it because then they can just heighten it to new levels everytime.
@@nonameguy155 nah, not worth dealing with people like that. If someone tells me that I'm like go ahead and do it and then I block em.
@@nonameguy155Because it's not his responsibility. A lot of the time, people who threaten suicide if you don't talk to them are controlling you, intentionally or not, in a toxic friendship. If he doesn't feel like it's healthy for him to adopt other people's problems, then he doesn't have to.
5:16 one dude in her chat said *"GET EVEN"* like this person is on another level right now😂😂😂😂😂
My oldest son has had a couple of girlfriends threaten to off themselves if they broke up. He was still a teenager at the time and he is a very caring, sensitive person so these girls saying stuff like that to him was an enormous emotional burden.
It is very sad how that statement has become the go to thing to say in order to emotionally blackmail someone, especially when there are people out there who actually do feel low enough to do something like that to themselves and not just for attention
One of my best friends had a girlfriend who threatened to off herself, so he stayed with her for a couple of months then when they broke up again, she had a "pregnancy scare". We were both 16 at the time
Hope your son is doing better now, these sorts of people sniff out what will work on you... horrible
Charlie’s diverse vocabulary for saying the dude was pleasuring himself to Pokimane is honestly impressive.
polishing the scepter got me 💀
choking the chicken
Playing the skin flute was crazy
@@Bfkcjscbsnjc Bro what
@@BfkcjscbsnjcAre you genuinely okay?
On the note of what Charlie said about his VA experience with the one person, I dealt with that in a relationship and being a hostage in a relationship, let alone a professional sense, is extremely uncomfortable and dangerous
Reminds me of “Baby Reindeer”
its not dangerous. LEAVE. CALL COPS. GET FRIENDS. STOP DEALING with it. that easy.
@@KeiraBravenot that easy bud
@@joesmanyadventures try to explain that and I will listen.
@@KeiraBrave Not the original, but the truth is your take is a little bit oblivious. When you say 'just leave!' it begs the question: where to? A lot of people don't really have an option to leave because they have nowhere to go: the apartment they live in with the abuser MAY belong to the abuser and the victim may have no money and no opportunities to go somewhere else but the streets. That is to say, abuser will likely follow them and try to bring them back any means necessary, be it violence towards them or crushing and destroying the place the victim opt to stay instead. The desire not to subject other people to the same shit the victim is going through is very natural: they don't want to deal with an immense feeling of guilt for their abuser ruining their friends/family/hotel owners' property on top of everything else.
Calling cops doesn't work in a lot of countries. For once, the most common thing one will hear in my country for the report of domestic violence or creepy behavior: "Not our business. Come to us when there's a dead body". No shit. Just like that. And once the cops leave, the victim remains with their abuser alone, and the abuser is now fucking pissed the cops were called in the first place.
One is very lucky to have friends and family who will believe them and not encourage the victim to stay instead because 'he's going through a faze' or 'you're exaggerating it'. And the first thing a lot of abusers and manipulators do - is attempt to cut off any helpful connection a victim may have beside the abuser themselves. The abusers often either chase away and antagonize the family members and friends of the victim so the victim has no one to turn to, OR they build up a reputation of an Ideal Partner TM so none of victim's family and friends will believe the victim. This shit is fucking discouraging.
The whole idea of manipulative behavior is to put your victim into a state of mind where they either unable to seek help due to objective circumstances (financial/legal/distance to cover to get help) or subjective "feeling of being trapped" (fear/guilt/gaslighting into thinking all of that is victim's fault). That's why cases of abuse are a tricky thing to deal with: those are the stories of people who were stripped of power to fight against unfair treatment one way or another. People with a clear understanding (and in possession) of opportunities you've described rarely fall under such predicament.
Her chat acting like as if they're not doing that exact same thing while shes talking about it
I know this is one comment among thousands but thank you for sharing your own story. That is an all too common situation young people on the internet experience from other individuals and it's very, very hard to deal with at the time even though in hindsight it is so easy to say "well I should have just blocked them." The s**cide baiting, the manipulation, the clinging-on -- it is so hard to handle and I really hope you sharing your story allows others (especially men) to feel less like they're weird for experiencing the same thing. As a woman I know I've dealt with it on many occasions over my youth but it's something that can happen to anyone and it's so difficult to get out of.
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Are you a hot woman or no?
I’ve had the same thing happened to me this girl she supposedly had a learning disability that’s what my friend told me and she would just keep texting me and wouldn’t leave me alone and if I didn’t respond sometimes she’d be like I’m so depressed I think I’ve been depressed since I was born and my mother just ran away I don’t know if she’s coming back and I’m only happy when I’m talking to you and then should be like I think you’re cute and she’d be like do you like me or wanna be my boyfriend and I’m like no and then she’d be like why not I would say I’m not attracted to you and we would do that again and again and again then she said something about nudes and I was like only send those to people you really trust not me you don’t know me I’m a stranger
@@Joem2648 yeah true, but one gender very grossly imbalances the scales on the specific topic of divide baiting and self harm, that same gender is also VERY DAMN SIMILARLY, EXACTLY TO CORRECT MYSELF, doing the self harm thing ingeneral -not even for the threatening relationship for thing, just self harm to themselves. And we all know why they do it. It’s the same reason they paint their cars all pink at 50/60yrs old. The same reason 45 yr olds wear booty shorts and wear all pink clothing and such type styles. It’s because the attention well is never deep enough, it’s astonishing the greed and never ending lust and embarrassing 🙈 insecurity of attention seeking. When does it end? When do you get satisfied? When can you ever turn it off and act normal and not desperately clamor for attention still at 40/50/60 even 70 yrs old! It’s gross, you’re 40. I don’t need to comment on the 50/60s. There’s no debate, everyone’s gross at that age. Not sorry, because everyone is at that age. But for some strange reason one gender has the other outpaced by light years literally and generations length in categorizing and objectifying the rationality in attention and praise and being liked and cool and popular waaayyyy before 50/60yrs old.
Folks, get a grip, it’s not even close to sexy, it’s gross. Not figuratively, literally you are gross. Nobody thinks you’re cool or sexy and attractive. Grow up, you’re 60. Get a grip
I remember being in a similar situation when I was in like 8th-9th grade. Tho it didn’t get as serious bc it was another kid around my age for sure, but they would always kinda trauma dump and want to talk to the point that I had to cut things off for my own mental health. One of the hardest lessons to learn especially as a people pleaser, you are not responsible for another persons happiness.
First half of this sounds really bad, lol
no idea wtf ur talking about. elaborate? 😀
Yourrrr gunnnaaa need to phrase that better in the first half 😂✋
@@marknelson3830 There's nothing comedic about the situation.
@@tunkhine3987 shhh
Jackson scamming you into being his friend with photoshopped dark souls screenshots is like 1.5D chess, just incredible
I LOVE that you make these stories more well-known. Doing gods work. lmao
6:06 "I'll have you know this is a 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂 country ma'am"
Click on the 6:06 a bunch of times lol
She freakyyyyy
@@bidxmanplays3253brooooooo
@@bidxmanplays3253nah why you make me listen to that
@@cicianamumu who tf is she
My brother spent alot of time in a bad friend group cause everytime he tried to separate they pulled fake suicide threats on him and he was too scared to call the bluff.
When I eventually found out I lost my mind. Especially having my close friend experience real suicidal thoughts. My brother stopped caring soon after and they gave up trying to guilt trip him back to them
thats insane and scary man. A lot of young people are actually taking their lives these days too. No one really talks about it, but its scary
@@JonnyUnderrated Loads of people talk about it. It's always happened, it's just on the rise a little more than usual right now, but it totally is talked about.
No offense, but what does that have to do with anything?
Okay?
Nobody cares dude
"Hey, is there a reason you haven't filed those TPS reports yet?"
*Zipper noise*
cant come in on the weekend cause too busy jerkin it to kung fu movies
@@s0hlless😂
Office space is great.
“Yeeeeaaahhhh, I’m gonna need you to come work over the weekend.”
I will never get tired of this man's eloquence.