War Thunder Realistic: Typhoon Mk Ia [Unforgiving Bitch!]
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
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Typhoon Mk Ia Realistic Battle, British early tier Fighter.
War Thunder British Realistic Battle (featuring Typhoon Ia).
War Thunder, Patch 1.79, Project X. Typhoon realistic footage.
Today its time to fly out the Typhoon Mk Ia in a Realistic Battle. Flew out with the Typhoon yesterday for the first time since release of 1.79, Project X. And found out exactly what this plane is about, lets see how it went. Hope you enjoy :)
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Hey guys, after a few requests i decided it was time to finally have a look at the first Typhoon in the British line, the Typhoon Mk Ia. A plane that presents a good challenge :) Hope you enjoy! and do make sure to like, commend and subscribe if you're new. Have a great Day! :)
Nice video :)
I personally LOVE two British masterpiece.
If I do not think of jets, both Typhoon Mk Ib (yup, that premium) and Spitfire F. Mk XVI (a request that got accepted).
Two British planes, couldnt be any more different. One goes for rolling maneuver, the other goes for afking elevator turns lol :)
Anyway, when will you be making my(..?) requested video..? I mean, I cannot wait for that. Regards, loved your Fw 190 D-13 video and loving this one as well. How can you review something I wanted for 3 times in a row? That was not just a coincedence lol :)
Anyway, thnx for keeping up nice work :)
Always learning from you
There is a typing mistake there
At the end you said comend instead of coment
Can you please play the Yak-9P? or revisit any of the Russian tier 4s? I would greatly appreciate it
Cheers min! typo's happen Natia, and the yak-9p is on my to do list! :)
They nerfed the ever living fuck out of the shvak cannons, they are like hispanos, but worse.
Always liked how the typhoons look, too bad they've always been outshined by the more famous spitfires.
yea definitely :)
I’d argue it looks way cooler in fact. Like the title says, it’s very unforgiving, but once mastered can be a very dangerous killing machine. Those guns don’t fool around.
7:30 I found a way to beat things like 109s that have an energy advantage on you in this machine. You dive when they dive on you (alternatively, you can choose to force your opponent to dive on you before they planned to if you so choose). After they have bled off more energy than you (they are going faster therefore more drag) you put your plane level, and basically have a drag race against them, and your huge top speed will take you away.
i'll try that out next time.
@@jengar6258 did it work?
7.7 mg can kill light pillbox??!! blow my mind!
I kinda think what actually killed the light pillbox was the AI tanks/pillboxes on Jengar's side. It just gave him the kill because the reward timer for it didn't run out before it was destroyed. It takes me a good number of .50's to take one out with universal rounds (early war belts, the ones with no AP-I rounds and consisting of AP - AP - AP - T - I), so I would shudder to think how many .303's would be needed to take a light pillbox down with their universal rounds.
@@stevegoesrogue wow xdxd
it was indeed the tanks that got that pilbox, you can see the shot comming in from the left at the end ;)
it can if you shoot the window, but that's really hard
@@stevegoesrogue the thing has 12 of them bro. 12! THATS 12 000 ROUNDS PER MINUTE
*DEMONITIZED*
for bitch? that would be a bit harsh ;)
To that, you say it right at the very end after a far less harsh review. You don't need such click-bait titles.
Personally, I could not fly the Tiffy until I mastered B&Z with the Corsair, and a little with the -47D and -51D. Then I came back to this plane and went on a murder spree, with a 17:1 kill to death ratio over 9 matches.
I love this plane now! However, you really do need to know when to bug out and keep bugging out. Do NOT attempt to dogfight in this beast. She has a great engine but she's very heavy.
I have a soft spot for this plane, as it's one of the first planes (first British at least) I flew out in Realistic battles. I had a great game once, managing to shoot down a BV 238 and then a He 111 a couple seconds later.
Edit- I like to kick the rudder in during a roll, it really speeds it up.
I think this plane deserves a 2.3 BR in RB, because 2.7 is a bit harsh considering the other types of planes it meets.
agreed mate ;) i have a few of those nostalgic planes as well :)
@@jengar6258 What planes would those be?
Hm, can you make a review of the 1b/l aswell? It`s my favourite plane for a while now. And know what? That`s thanks to you. Remember that video you made how to counter the G 55 S spam? Tried the Tiffy right away after watching that video and got some "Aha!" moments... :P Now it`s my most flown aircraft. No stellar K/D ratio (50/50), but can`t blame the plane for that as I all to often end up as last guy alive vs a horde of angry germans... At least I have surpassed 1k kills in it :P
Good to hear mate :) i'll revisit it eventually ;) the to do list is long.
Yay nice ;) Btw, as the 1a is pretty similar to the 1 b/l in flight behaviour (feels less powerful though): Barrelrolling instead of normal rolling in some situations help. I`m so used of giving rudderinput during a roll that when I fly another plane, I "oversteer". Or in case of italian planes even end up in a flatspin because I forgot about it again...lol. (Aswell as ending up in the ground once again. Because I forgot it`s not a Tiffy, which can pull tighter vertical recoveries then most other planes ...xD)
That's a very accurate title u got there, at 2.7 it's a bitch to fly.
These Clan/Squadron guys are always cocky especially when they fly an OP plane (even when their plane was OP for 3.7).
yup on both accounts ;)
Boss want to try the P 39N? Quite the hidden gem!
Indeed
Asif Talpur
Treat like the drunken love child of a Yak 9T and a 109F-1, but with less control stiffening
Asif Talpur hopefully Jengar will fly it out and show you. It’s a beast below 4000m. Really fast. Can dive past 700km/h and it can dive really well too. It can dogfight 109 F4s even below 4000m and run away from them if in trouble. The armament is tricky to use but it’s got lots of mgs. It’s a real gem.
its on my to do list still mate :)
I like how your review of the typhoon resonates with my experience from flying it out at air RB (agree with the poor roll rate and bad energy retention performance in the vertical). I struggle alot with this plane (typhoon mk1a), especially when it's uptiered as the top speed is what I felt as the only advantage it has against axis planes at sea level. This plane only does well with shallow climbs and shallow dives, but because of it's stiff handling at high speeds, I can't pull the guns to lead on the target.
yeah, pretty much :)
One of my absolute favourite planes for tank rb, blow someone up with the 500lb bombs, before going anti cas. Both this and the cannon tiffy are excellent at anti cas because all the engagements take place at low altitude where your big engine can really shine. I've also found that both the typhoons actually do turn very well (better than anything German, at any rate) and have better elevator authority than most at high speed. The roll rate is a pain but can be fought through with a bit of rudder applied in the same direction as the roll, which is a trick I learned from an old bo time video of all places!
i can imagine it can be good in tank rb :)
It may be unforgiving in RB but in mixed battles it really shines for me. An excellent bomb load for its tier, and more often than not I end up engaging planes that are set up for CAS rather than pure dogfighting. Swoop in fast, kill a tank, retain all that energy and climb and start hunting the enemy attackers which are usually low on alt an energy with seemingly unlimited ammo. Sure, it may be a big fish in a small pond, but it's a very big fish.
i can imagine it working well there :)
hi #Jengar i was looking through your premium reviews to see if you had reviewed the British havoc mrk 1 but couldn't find it and I'd be very greatful if you could review her thanks
not yet, its on my to do list :)
firepower actually doesn't look so great here, especially for a boom n zoomer
trust me, they might only be 7.7's, but there's 12 of them, in my experience if they don't utterly shred an enemy they're almost guaranteed to set it on fire.
Kosmokat
It helps that British LMGs are second only to ShKAS in terms of lethal belts. Tracer belts drive bombers mad with a steady burst
Also, on this plane, you have enough for about 28 seconds of continuous fire
you have to get them right on target for a few secs. Pretty good then.
I tend to be able to kill planes in one short burst, but that's only because I go for the Hartmann approach, the typhoon is fast enough that I can close distance easily, so I set my convergence to about 200 metres.
With B&Zers I need a LOT of ammo. The Tiffy Ia has this. I set convergence to 800m with Universal and do well.
I regularly get 4+ kills a game. It’s a above decent dog fighter. Not the best turn fighter but if done right you can outfly most players in dogfights. The guns absolutely tear apart anybody who gets in front of them. Overall it is one of my favorite planes.
no mistakes allowed in this plane, I prefer this plane with 4 20mm, cannot get used to the 12 7.7
can imagine that ;)
When I unlocked the Typhoon I test flew it and I was... Disappointed. But that was like three months ago. Now wow man I prefer it very much over spitfires. I barely turn with my spits, I just use my horizontal energy retention and the spit s amazing capacity to keep climbing meters and meters in a shallow degree. But the Spitfires I have lack what the Typhoon has: Vertical retention AND most importantly acceleration. It's so funny to see 109s stalling as you go spiraling them up, that Napier Sabre is a beast. And the firepower with tracers is like a prelude to what F82 with the gunpod feels like. They even hit hard enough to one shot quickscope other players or leave them burning and still 5-6 kills and still have other 3500 bullets left. I spaded it in 3 matches: the first was 4 kills and an assist, the second one was a failure as I crashed on a 109 right after i set it on fire ,and couldn't do anything despite my energy status was optimal and could take down a couple of planes lower (a 110 and a duck) and the third one against Germany and Italy was just glorious: I could reverse someone on a 109 by just rolling! Even knowing how badly this thing rolls even with rudder help, and then got other 3 kills and an assist. I love this plane and I feel like I'm going to love the Hawker line way more than the spit line, as now my only spit targets would be the LF 9 and the 24, and maybe the mk14, as for the 22 being too weak in the verticals, so that I managed to reverse with yak 9p an ace pilot that BnZed me with a mk22 with pretty fearsome KDR, using yak 9p in pure vertical fight. As always Jengar your videos are amazing and very entertaining. Adam 514 is also very useful but lacks the warm touch you add to your videos. Sorry for this long text though
This is exactly how I feel ☺️
I love this badboy. 12 machine guns for the win
nothing wrong with the firepower, agreed.
Tier 1 typhoon is completely broken now. Really enjoyed shooting down 4 players as a totally inexperienced realistic player but wow. It's like an American plane but even faster at low altitude. Seems to accelerate better than a P63 and has fantastic dive characteristics. Really the only issue I have is wing-mounted .303s, no matter how many you have, are less than ideal in head ons.
Perhaps it got an buff in the meantime ;)
@@jengar6258 Probably wouldn't have gone so smoothly if any enemies had wanted to climb above 5k...
@@jengar6258 By the way, you are a credit to the community and also your intro music is super cool. Also also maybe you can answer this niggling question of mine: heard someone say that the FW 190 recovers from dives better when it is full or almost full on fuel vs empty. Specifically in realistic, I don't plow my FW 190s into the ground in arcade and I'm not enough of a boss to go simulator with one. Any truth to this rumor about dive recovery on fuller fuel? Doesn't make much sense to me but maybe they modelled something about CoG... I guess.
Hey Jengar IDK if they changed the FM or it just fits my playstyle for some reason but you know the IAR-81C which you didn't have much nice to say about? Yeah so I did a 1000 GE GBW to pay for it (since you said it was shite not gonna use my own money but I still like to collect) got to take it out once last night and...wow. I got Norway and had NO problem hanging out with the 109s at 6km, took a head on that cracked the oil cooler, it didn't care, and was able to take 3 kills and the #1 slot with a metric crapton of ammo left over.
I have to say I was quite impressed with the little darling, she got a bit heavy in dives but as long as I pulled to level before reaching 600kmh she had no issues and I found her to be quite nimble and easy to handle.
hmm, i might have to revisit it then, maybe they listened to me ;)
Guess so as to me it felt a bit like an F4F crossed with a C.205, bit heavy on the stick in a dive (like the F4F) but with decent agility at 350kmh similar to a slightly fatter C.205.And you can't go wrong with Minengeschoss at 2.7 BR, everything I got guns on just assploded, didn't even fire the MGs once.
And hey wouldn't be the first time they listened to outrage, remember what a giant POS the Narval was upon release? that thing bled so much energy if you did any kind of maneuver that you were just a sitting duck, now its a pretty decent high alt fighter.
Yo Jengar, maybe you'll read this at some point but thanks a bunch bud. As soon as I started flying it high those bombers didn't stand a chance. And when I said ah screw it and flew down to pick off stragglers, I trapped them in the canyons, nowhere to out turn me so he just ran, and oh, this thing just chases like a tiger when you're fighting from behind when the enemy has nowhere to run. Again thanks a bunch and you truly contribute to my enjoyment in this game. My greatest regards Joseph-
glad to hear it! o7
Ugh the Tiffie....I have the premium one, worst premium in the game IMHO. I'd rather fly the German Wellie than the Tiffie as at least the Wellie is useful as a bomber. The premium Tiffie is 1.- Lousy in a dive, 2.- takes forever to wind up, 3.- turns like a bus, and 4.- Sparkspanos which as everyone can see with you wailing on the HE-111 really suck right now.
So glad you found a use for a Tiffie besides hangar decoration, better you than me friend.
;) i'll revisit the premium one eventually again as well mate :)
Really? Then allow me to say ahead of time my condolences, that damned thing has to be the most infuriating bird in my hangar bar none. Nothing like spending 6+ minutes to get to alt only to have your entire team slaughtered, fight your ass off against 5 109s to get a deflection shot only to get "spark spark black puff spark spark". I swear Sparkspano MK IIs make Italian MGs look good by comparison,over 250-300m you might as well be throwing scones while 151s can cut you in half from 700m!
Well, that Tiffy was my first premium ever and from what I can see, one of the best performing workhorses in my hangar in my early days. I prefer the 1b/l now, but let me tell you this: If you always keep your bad rollrate in mind and use it at speeds 300 km/h and above, you have a beast of a plane. My personal "Aha" moment (which was in the 1b/l but works in the 1b aswell) was, when I noticed I could make a full loop in under 5 seconds at the right speed... And the crazy energy retention even makes it possible to attack guys from below with ease.
I always meet your squadron in battles but never you 😅 Why do you hide O Great One? 😊
😂
hehe, perhaps soon!
You are lucky then or he will DESTROY YOU!
@@WigglyWings no shame in getting schooled by an excellent pilot in-game 😎
Actually it would be fun to be killed by Jengar!
nice video. I think all this applies to the premium Typhoon Mk Ib, that is very hard to play these days. It had br increase few patches ago and its fly model is very similar to Mk Ia, but it is at 4.3 now. It used to be much more effective and easy to fly before . Yes it has 4 20mm but at 4.3 it,s not a big argument anymore with such a platform. And they almost disappeared form RB matches.
thanks mate, and can imagine, i havnt touched the premium Typhoon in years myself.
It's possible to meet He 111 H-16s, which have a 20mm bow turret, so a frontal approach may not always be a good idea.
fair enough!
I can’t even get over the 12 Brownings. Wow.
My typhoon has 69 on the right wing so it is superior to every plane in the game
hehe, touche!
Ah yes, the Fw 190 that traded aileron authority for elevator authority. When I first flew this, I thought it was a bad turner because it rolled so slowly it just looks slothful, until I outturned a Ki-61 then I realized it was actually a pretty reasonable turner.
One trait is that it decelerates momentarily when you WEP, but that was my experience in arcade. I'm sure lowering the prop pitch should help in RB.
now that you mentioned it, i noticed that deceleration with wep, in my test flight.
@@jengar6258 Begs the question: how good of a brake would it be at 100% prop pitch and 0% throttle? Despite its immense weight, its propeller can still decelerate the plane just by RPM alone. I feel like the Typhoon has some untapped potential there, I've never seen other planes with such an unusual property.
The worst japaneae pilots can beat good russian pilots.
Ki-61 isn't that good at turning anyway, I also held the energy advantage and was spiral climbing but nevertheless, it still has a good elevator authority. I'd reckon it can compete with Bf 109s in hard turning but if the pilot brings rolling manuevers into the mix then the Typhoon will suffer.
And with reference to what you said: good Russian pilots will head-on and extend away from the turnfighters. The energy fighting Japanese planes are nimble but they each have their own individual weaknesses, especially at low-alt against Russians. Bad Japanese pilots will only survive, albeit shortly, in turnfighters at best. If they don't know how to energy fight, they won't win in a Ki-61 or a J2M2.
I have to say after finally taking this one out the other night (had a sub request it or I wouldn't have touched it, BIG mistake!) I have to say...this thing is a BEAST! I got 6 kills in like 5 minutes with this beauty, I'd say its the one Tiffie in this game that DOES NOT SUCK which from someone that LOATHES his premium Typhoon? That is saying a lot!
What was the trick? 300m convergence with Stealths. I've been running anything with .303s at that convergence and those belts as I've been playing a lot of high tier Spits where you live by the .303 deflection shots against K4s and Doras so I decided to leave it for this bird and...wow! Everything I pointed at either was insta-nuked or its tail flew clean off in a single burst, I ended that 6 kill run with over 1200 rounds left to go and could have easily taken a couple more but a guy on the team begged to have the last kills as he was running a booster and I didn't want to be an ass LOL!
So next time you take a bird with .303s give the 300m/stealth combo a try, it really makes those popguns shine!
Good stuff mate! i'll try that out next time.
I think this plane is awesome being limited as it is. People have thought this plane is a 50 gallon trash can but you prove them wrong once again with your scoring on this plane! Thanks once again for posting your awesome videos proving as always its the pilot thats in the plane that counts and not so much the plane he flies.👍😎✈
you're welcome mate!
Are you kidding? This plane should be 2.0 (or 2.3) and not at 2.7.
@@WigglyWings Too fast for that BR. At 2.0 it would be facing reserves. It would be as much of a scourge as the He-100D. At 2.3, maybe. I remain convinced there should be a .5 BR, for planes too good for .3 and that underperform at .7
@@Jupiter__001_ Thing is I was too salty at the time when I posted that, after being bullied by 109 F4s every single match in my almost stock typhoon. 109 F4s have moved to 4.0 but I still feel it does not handle uptiers as good as any 109.
@@WigglyWings True. I took mine out today for a spin and got bad results, but maybe that's just my poor piloting (only lvl 13). You can out-run a 109 in a straight line at most altitudes, with this being most noticeable below 3000m. This also gives superior horizontal energy retention. You cannot out-dive them, but you can nearly dive with them.
Diving for a while and then levelling out bleeds the 109's energy more than your own, so as long as you begin this whilst the opponent is just outside gun-range, you should be fine. Your opponent will be forced to break off and find a better target, leaving you to extend further and regain energy. This is a somewhat reliable tactic that works against 109s that have a small/medium energy advantage over you. It is, however, very time-intensive, as the chase can last very long in some cases.
But indeed, I got salty and gave up in the end because I was disappointed both in the plane and myself, as I always either died because I was cautious and sideclimbed, leaving my entire team to die, or I then played recklessly due to frustration with the whole "slow and steady" approach. I think I got only one or two kills the entire 3 hour session.
i really like this plane. one of my favs at this br.
fair enough, i'll revisit someday.
I use this as sort of like how people use biplanes
I use this at like 5.7 and it’s really fun
The 500 pd bombs are really op if u drop them right next to a target
I have literally killed an IS-2 with this plane
One of my most funnest planes
Your videos are so nice! They help a lot with research. Keep going!
ty sir, will do :)
Profanity!
Do you think typhoon 1b/late mostly similar except 20mm guns
its about 2 years ago since i touched that last. I'd have to revisit it.
@@jengar6258 that would be great
I don't think I've ever survived an encounter with this plane. It always shreds me :(
hmm, so how do you approach it usually?
@@jengar6258 usually i try to avoid it. If I'm in a turn fighter and try to engage he'll either get lucky stray bullet on a fuel tank or the pilot or i don't see him until the last second before i can even react.
the mk 1b is actually great imo
im planning to visit that one in the near future.
Gaijin logic, 12 7.7mm are about as effective as spitting. Really need a buff.
The_Kiwi
There are exceptions, however. Browning HMGs are much more in the Kong’s word category, or even a lance with a lot of luck. They aren’t very powerful that far out, but they hold their course much further than most types of ammunition
I fly it in Sim but I open the doors and there blown off so my visibility is much improved!
I wonder if the flight model changes I don't really notice..what do you think Jengar?
Im just gonna tell you something. Your english is really good, but sometimes i dont wuite understand due to your accent. Anyways, you have some really great videos.
dutch accent is great with english ;)
I only came good in the 1a when I got good at using my convergence. Deleting unarmoured ground units plus the odd stray aircraft is her strength. She has the speed to drag enemies to team mates or the AF to deal with.
I enjoy flying any Typhoons but never dog fight. Extend to safety before re engaging on better terms.
wise words indeed matthew, i can imagine that groundpounding can be rewarding in the Typhoon. No dogfighting goes for al altitudes though ;)
Tena koe Kiwi. I haven't got a headset yet for my Ps4 but when I do I hope to get a wingman slot with you for a fly out.
As you say, good coms is the key to good team work and team work is the foundation of victory.
Could you pleas make a review for one of early spitfires like mk.I a or II a, b please?
That could be chalange with that what warhunder did to their engines.
Thank you. 😁
their in my plans :)
@@jengar6258 So awesome 😀
Looking forward
Dipped in sauce, I'm a boss, typhoon tie typhoon!
dipsauce indeed!
What's that?????
4:35 nice
:)
I find this plane is quite good as a low altitude attacker. I often rush and keep low.
I'll have to try that if i get to fly her again ;)
Hey great video.
Have you a track ir or something like this ?
Thanks Jaen, i dont use track ir.
I love this plane. Lots of guns and the fastest plane at its tier.
thats true :)
Hey guys, Hangar here :D
not quite ;)
Hi jengar plz can you do p80 a5 i realy need to see how to fly
i have a review on that plane, nothing changed.
I'm not even a remote fan of the spitfire but the typhoon and tempest are really good planes.
agreed!
@@jengar6258 I guess you prefer bnz and energy fighting like i do. I played a Vr flight sim about a year ago at a friends house and it was actually kinda of scary to dive like that .
@@jengar6258 How ever tho i have been enjoying the a7m tho.
I think UA-cam won't pay you for this video. Better watch your titles...
i will always operate from freedom of speech.
@@jengar6258 that is what UA-cam should allow btw, you r right
Let the bullets rain down! Nice one boss. For a request, I would like to see the Lagg 3-34 premium. When I first got it, it only had 12 37mm rounds. Now it has 36 of them and at 2.3 br this thing is a beast!
it's on my to do list :)
Thank you boss o7. I will be patient. 😉
Amazing brick, i still love it :)
its still fun i agree.
An expert not using stealth belts hehe
stealth belts arnt always best by default ;)
It's my favourite below BR 3 British fighter.
Lol this is one the worst clubbers at 2.7 that nobody uses.
its only a clubber at downtiers.
Definitely not a clubber. But when downtiered you have some fun with it.
Jengar, the video is quite blurry at 1080p. Would it be a problem to upscale the video to 4k before uploading it to youtube.
it looks quite sharp for me when i play it. Maybe it was just that you were early? youtube sometimes messes that up.
I watched an interview with Günther Rall after watching this. Amazing guy.
indeed! Germans wernt all bad.
jg302 members being douches? well, i never... :P
i personally hadnt consiously seen any bad bahaviour before from that squadron. They do that more often then?
I don’t know if unforgiving describes it, I was able to get 4 kills in it easily.
well, i'm pretty sure thats not your avarage k/D ratio in it.
Jengar lol no my usual K/D is 1.5-3/1, I’m much better off using my favorite Focke-Wulf fighters
Why do you think Germany fought on the wrong side? They were the defenders of Europe, no? Look at Europe today, what they "allies" made of it.
Why speaking if you got no clue of reality. Travel and study please
well, one could say that the winners write the history, and thus the loosers were the bad side ;)
Oh, ok, I get that point!
Not all germans were bad, just like not all allies were good, but in general i think we can say that some germans did some pretty nasty things in ww2.