BMW 7 Series vs Mercedes S-Class comparison REVIEW

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  • @autogefuehl
    @autogefuehl  Рік тому +39

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    00:00 BMW 7 Series vs Mercedes S-Class!
    01:02 Length and rear-axle steering
    02:58 Rear design and lamps
    02:40 Key fobs and doors
    03:16 Front seating S-Class V223
    03:43 Seating and cockpit 7 Series G70
    05:54 SClass cockpit
    07:22 Rear executive seating S-Class
    08:45 Rear seating 7 Series
    10:12 Trunk / boot comparison
    11:07 Engines
    11:49 Autobahn driving 2023 BMW 740d
    17:01 Mercedes 10 degree Rear-axle steering
    17:50 Autobahn driving 2023 S-Class S580e
    24:54 Being chauffeured in BMW 7 Series
    27:07 Being chauffeured in MB S-Class
    31:44 Which is the best luxury sedan?
    #Mercedes #BMW #BMW7
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    • @jimj2683
      @jimj2683 Рік тому +1

      Could you compare wagons/sedans to their equivalent SUVs? For example: 5-series vs X5 or C-Class vs GLC.

    • @rarerubber
      @rarerubber Рік тому

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    • @kreigerbailey3550
      @kreigerbailey3550 Рік тому +1

      Portland, JAMAICA in the Building!!!

    • @KincerGroup
      @KincerGroup 11 місяців тому

      😂

    • @SamayRajib-h2h
      @SamayRajib-h2h 18 днів тому

      Make a video of DODGE// Please.....🫠
      Not electric car 😑

  • @MihaiMatraguna
    @MihaiMatraguna Рік тому +173

    I'm watching your videos like I'm going to buy a Mercedes S-Class tomorrow.
    But with my bank account I can barely afford the metallic color.

    • @MCWM8589
      @MCWM8589 14 днів тому

      We can both put our little $$ and get the metallic colour

  • @peponas87
    @peponas87 Рік тому +796

    Hmm.. They're not kidneys any more... They've become lungs!

  • @lordm7529
    @lordm7529 Рік тому +353

    That Classy look in the merc is just enough. 💯

    • @Msr.shaikh482
      @Msr.shaikh482 Рік тому +14

      New 7 Series is king of luxury .... Mercedes is nothing front of this 7 😂😂

    • @Max10294
      @Max10294 Рік тому +37

      @@Msr.shaikh482the Mercedes is Elegence and so much better the 7 series is pure ugly the S class is just class the 7 series should just be a cheap Toyota big sedan

    • @Msr.shaikh482
      @Msr.shaikh482 Рік тому +3

      @@Max10294 Go and watch cartoons kiddo fan of Mercedes 😂
      This New 7 Series is next level luxury and looks attractive ... But you are a blind fan of Mercedes ...How you see if you are blind 😅

    • @bernard5260
      @bernard5260 Рік тому +11

      ​@@Msr.shaikh482king of luxury? Bruh 😅

    • @AbuWasabi
      @AbuWasabi Рік тому +1

      @@Msr.shaikh482 yeah the bmw in m sport looks sick

  • @DanRichter
    @DanRichter Рік тому +221

    After seeing both in person, I'm surprised to say the BMW is my preference, looks wise. I thought it looked strange seeing it online, but in person it has a massive presence. Almost feels like a Rolls now. And looks very futuristic, like a concept car.

    • @TS-mk7cu
      @TS-mk7cu Рік тому

      @ImanSengupta2102 For pornstars

    • @redstream1237
      @redstream1237 Рік тому

      Your taste in cars is disgusting

    • @lenifoster5360
      @lenifoster5360 Рік тому +14

      BMW all the way. 💯❤️‍🔥⚡️⚡️⚡️

    • @Sergesedd22
      @Sergesedd22 Рік тому +3

      Facts

    • @JimmieBrown-sg8fq
      @JimmieBrown-sg8fq Рік тому +5

      Well most of the Rolls has the 7's mechanical stuff underneath so really the 7 is a "poor mans" Rolls and it drives better than the Rolls.

  • @bruceng
    @bruceng Рік тому +270

    The S-Class is just straight business

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +13

      Not when you compare it to a Rolls Royce or a Bentley

    • @1990Thunderbolt
      @1990Thunderbolt Рік тому +51

      @@seansiew5629 you need a mercedes maybach for that lol

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +9

      @1990Thunderbolt yeah but Maybach interior is not much different compared to the regular S class, a Rolls Royce and Bentley gives me a special feeling, a hand-built car which the Maybach isn't, also not to mention it looks the most bland parked next to both RR and Bentley

    • @1990Thunderbolt
      @1990Thunderbolt Рік тому +5

      @@seansiew5629 I mean I like all 3 so I have no bias here.

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +2

      @@1990Thunderbolt fair enough

  • @ClaireYunFarronXIII
    @ClaireYunFarronXIII Рік тому +74

    A clash of kings, hosted by Thomas. I've been waiting for this comparison video. Very nice of you to talk about the chauffeur experience, too. Thank you. 👍 I would rather take the S-Class, but the 7-Series is also very nice.

  • @Kelveron
    @Kelveron Рік тому +247

    Excellent review as always. Both great cars, but wow, the new 7 series makes the S-Class looks small, even though they are actually close in size. It looks very imposing!

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  Рік тому +7

      cheers keep tuning in !

    • @ajlee6933
      @ajlee6933 Рік тому +33

      Yes! The 7 has Rolls Royce presence.

    • @NotMyAccount
      @NotMyAccount Рік тому +6

      I think the Mercedes has the hood and trunk more angled down at the ends so probably thats why. The BMW made it boxier than the previous 7 series for sure

    • @kirilmihaylov1934
      @kirilmihaylov1934 Рік тому +1

      ​@@NotMyAccount which one is better

    • @danielosdinia4258
      @danielosdinia4258 Рік тому +4

      @@kirilmihaylov1934 Vauxhall Corsa!

  • @morelife7722
    @morelife7722 Рік тому +93

    S Class 👑

    • @questionyourself718
      @questionyourself718 Рік тому +2

      It looses against 7 series in every comparison.

    • @pacmanc8103
      @pacmanc8103 Рік тому +3

      @@questionyourself718 Except quality, looks, and panache. The BMW grill and front-end are hideous- it’s an old car trying to dress up.

    • @questionyourself718
      @questionyourself718 Рік тому +1

      @@pacmanc8103 Didnt you watch the Video? The BMW has the better quality. And i cant belive you used the Word Panache for a Car 😄 I mean, looks are subjective but in every Objective measurement the BMW wins against the S-Class.

    • @pacmanc8103
      @pacmanc8103 Рік тому +1

      @@questionyourself718 Then you really ought to learn from the use of that word. Of course it can be used for a car - a 7 Series BMW that looks like a beaver with squinty eyes, of course not. It has none. BMW is stuck in old mechanicals and design - maybe they’re short on development capacity. The Mercedes S class is the unrivaled king of executive sedans. Period. Cars like the 7 series and the Audi A8 are nice, but they really don’t compete with the S class, as much as they’d like. Sorry, that’s just the way it is.

    • @questionyourself718
      @questionyourself718 Рік тому +1

      @@pacmanc8103 You claiming the S-class is King when it lost against the 7 Series in Multiple Tests is too funny 😅 You are living in a Mercedes Fanboy Dreamworld. Objective Facts are that the 7 Series has better quality, better materials, plusher and more comfortable seats, the better ride and dampers and the quicker and higher resolution infotainment.

  • @marka.2484
    @marka.2484 Рік тому +11

    Great review, as always. As a Dutchman, I especially like your videos because of your "Deutsche gründlichkeit", all details are covered.

  • @conradbo1
    @conradbo1 Рік тому +44

    Both are very nice. I will choose the 7 Series, it just look more futuristic. Great video, thanks a lot for uploading it.

  • @michaelstaunton1632
    @michaelstaunton1632 Рік тому +117

    The stunning S-Clasa is my favourite there now most definitely 👌👌👌

  • @Conservator.
    @Conservator. Рік тому +30

    24:41 I like the driving assistant and active cruise control. Although you can’t rely on the system, it does make the car significantly more relaxing to drive.
    As for lane changing: it’s a fun feature but just a little bit too firm for comfort imo.

  • @alexmaina6960
    @alexmaina6960 Рік тому +106

    Bmw has surprisingly punched above it's" luxury weight" in this class..more luxurious materials inside, comfier seats..and something I also appreciate about the 7 is bmw's courage to depart from traditional looks & venture into the unknown coz that look is definitely polarizing but is growing on me, looks Uber cool in that wine red especially the front end. Mercedes has always held the weight in this strata of luxury but even watching the video you honestly feel bmw is landing more blows..what not with that theatre screen, softer closing doors& a boot with a better thud sound, I'll definitely choose the bimmer. Though I still find the overall look Abit uncohesive. The bmw side profile silhouette has a closer relationship with rolls Royce esp the wide boxy fenders& shoulders. I personally feel bmw put a tad more effort & time in the design of this new 7series model beating Mercedes Benz clear but the market won't reflect this result..folks will still buy smercs more convincingly..I cross my fingers n hope bmw strikes more blows in the sales department too

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  Рік тому +12

      good analysis

    • @SpaghettiKillah
      @SpaghettiKillah Рік тому +5

      For the most part, the S Class in Europe is sold to companies who run luxury fleet catering the rich landing at the various private airports around EU, and 98% choose the S Class because of the *PERFECTLY PREDICTABLE* and reasonable running cost. I mean at Mercedes you already know how much you'll spend up to 200k kms before you buy it!
      At Bmw you *NEVER* know how much the regular maintenance is, wildly jumping numbers, insanely expensive parts. In Italy for example at Mercedes we pay 55 €+ VTA / hr at the dealer. Often at Bmw I was charged 100€ / hr.
      Overall the maintenance of a 7 Series compared to a S Class could cost you + 50% to 100% more.
      The choice becomes obvious.

    • @naimatallah9109
      @naimatallah9109 Рік тому

      😅

    • @alexmaina6960
      @alexmaina6960 Рік тому

      😺

    • @signinn5865
      @signinn5865 Рік тому +1

      Agreed

  • @Cludiulogic87
    @Cludiulogic87 Рік тому +47

    I have heared a lot of complains about new BMW 7 series exterior design. I personally like it more than the old 7 series giving it a more futuristic design and also differentiating itself from the other cars in the class and I think the BMW customers will love it.

    • @FoodKart
      @FoodKart Рік тому +3

      I am in for BMW Design

    • @Edrayyy
      @Edrayyy Рік тому +1

      Same, I think that the BMW design is just too futuristic that a lot ppl actually can't keep up with, really like the futuristic look.

    • @CyanHorizon
      @CyanHorizon Рік тому +4

      At least they made changes, while BENZ is still using the design from like 5,6 years ago.

    • @absolutium
      @absolutium Рік тому

      Consider that it is like having the first prius..
      Its going to age like milk when everyone adopts the cyberpunk design language.

    • @user-um3fx2vk8r
      @user-um3fx2vk8r 8 місяців тому +3

      @@CyanHorizon please tell me how a 2024 S class looks the same as a 6 year older model...you cant.

  • @fluentinsarcasm255
    @fluentinsarcasm255 Рік тому +65

    There is no comparison. One looks like you`ve asked someone to draw from memory any new "daytime running lights separated from the headlights" type of design and couldn`t decide on one model and the other one is a beautiful S-Class.

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +4

      Yeah right,but still the proper aggressive mafia style design which screams luxury was the w221 and w222 which looked better,the w223 parked next to both older gen s class just looked ugly tbh, interior also is the part where the w223 screams cheap compared to the w221 and w222

    • @questionyourself718
      @questionyourself718 Рік тому +6

      @@seansiew5629 Mercedes was cutting a lot of costs.. every review says the same. Cheaper materials, less luxurious sound and feel, less comfort. The Older S-Classes are definitely better than the new one.

    • @eventusvantos1905
      @eventusvantos1905 Рік тому

      ​@seansiew5629 no it doesn't new one looks better. Inside looks better overall

    • @eventusvantos1905
      @eventusvantos1905 Рік тому

      ​@gamingnoode no they weren't if anything they improved the materials as Throttle House pointed out too

    • @questionyourself718
      @questionyourself718 Рік тому +2

      @@eventusvantos1905 no they didnt. Thats a blatant lie.

  • @NaughtyNimitz
    @NaughtyNimitz Рік тому +131

    I really love that S-Class, but that 7-series is not bad either.

    • @casamia995
      @casamia995 Рік тому +1

      bmw piece of shit

    • @mrbrownie1383
      @mrbrownie1383 Рік тому

      bmw 7 is way uglier xdd ugliest luxury car ive ever seen in my life lmao

    • @aayazahmed5389
      @aayazahmed5389 Рік тому

      Just say that you need both of them.

    • @NaughtyNimitz
      @NaughtyNimitz Рік тому +3

      @@aayazahmed5389 I only need my S-class :)

    • @aayazahmed5389
      @aayazahmed5389 Рік тому +1

      @@NaughtyNimitz This S Class model has no led screen at the back though.

  • @meanvecktor1900
    @meanvecktor1900 Рік тому +27

    The older I’ve gotten, I come to realize, that both cars have pros and cons but i can honestly say I don’t think one is better then the other. I still believe it’s all about reception 😊

    • @dannyvafa3639
      @dannyvafa3639 Рік тому +8

      Have you ever owned either vehicle? The last 7 series was one of the most unreliable vehicles in history and they were handing them out for $799 per month leases. The new 7 series has the ugliest style of any vehicle on the road. That is because Hyundai hired all BMW's designers play approximately 5 years ago. There is no coincidence as to why Hyundai's (which is a terrible brand and I dislike) look better and BMWs look worst.
      If you have owned or simply test-driven these cars, you would go with the S-Class any day even though the BMW is 2 years newer. The S-Class has defined luxury, sophistication, technology and has said the bar for competitors for over nine generations. It's still going strong and the current S-Class blows out the 7 series after BMW had two years to copy the 7 class as well

    • @meanvecktor1900
      @meanvecktor1900 10 місяців тому

      @@dannyvafa3639I own both top versions of these Top tier vehicle, 2018 BMW M760LI, and 2012 Mercedes Benz S65 AMG

    • @blue_applesauce9990
      @blue_applesauce9990 4 місяці тому +1

      @@dannyvafa3639 yes because poor people are always getting brand new 7 series... not only that the 7 series has a way more striking presence and stands out on the road compared to the s class no one would bat an eye to other than Mercedes fans. if you want reliability get a Honda not a BMW

  • @JRS-j9m
    @JRS-j9m Рік тому +37

    I bought the new 760i a few months ago and it's the best car I've ever owned. I had owned and 2017 750i and I was going to trade it in for the S class, but then I saw the dealership had a new 7 series on the lot and decided to test it. Once I sat in it, I had to have it. It made the S class look like an old lady's car. This one felt sporty, tough, and masculine, as well as super luxurious. I've always wanted an S class, but for some reason always end up with a BMW. BMW has really stepped up their game though and now the price feels justified. The tech and design of this car is incredible.

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for the feedback!

    • @alexandersb7858
      @alexandersb7858 Рік тому +7

      Give us s break with that sh.. please...

    • @mtenzera1
      @mtenzera1 Рік тому

      The design is incredible? Jeez... cut the cocaine intake man.

    • @henrik1743
      @henrik1743 Рік тому +3

      Bull sht 🤣

    • @JRS-j9m
      @JRS-j9m Рік тому +2

      @@henrik1743 which part?

  • @SPZ909
    @SPZ909 Рік тому +2

    The design doesn’t look like a BMW. Cover the badge and nobody can tell it’s a BMW. The design team have completely lost their minds.

  • @kaym7549
    @kaym7549 Рік тому +93

    The one thing about BMW is that you'll never confuse their different models.
    3 series is completely different to the 5 or the 7 etc. With Merc, it's a matter of size or led in the head lights, with the overall design pretty much the same.
    Props to Beemer for the effort 👌

    • @ronaldsimon9718
      @ronaldsimon9718 Рік тому +13

      but BMWs have the same interiors. the new 5 series will have this exact interior with lower quality materials.

    • @Guuggel
      @Guuggel Рік тому +21

      @@ronaldsimon9718 Mercedes have pretty much same interiors too, only the middle screen changes pretty much

    • @boyserful
      @boyserful Рік тому +6

      @@Guuggelthe interiors are literslly different from each class, bmw took a 2016 e-class design stuck on a screen that is not even integrated and offered it from the 2-series to the XM. What a joke

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +3

      @@boyserful the dual screen is only the derivative item from Mercedes but the rest of the interior as a whole resembles Rolls Royce

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +5

      @Adam Zeon have you seen the EQ electric cars? They look absolutely horrible

  • @viervier825
    @viervier825 Рік тому +57

    Great review! What I really miss with the S Class is a stepless door brake. The door hinges feel really cheap for a car in this prize range.

  • @joanmorales4123
    @joanmorales4123 Рік тому +51

    I saw a white 7 series last night and I could not stop watching it! 🥺

    • @r011ing_thunder6
      @r011ing_thunder6 6 місяців тому +2

      Should have followed it home

    • @r011ing_thunder6
      @r011ing_thunder6 6 місяців тому +1

      Like I did

    • @geoffk777
      @geoffk777 24 дні тому +1

      I saw a trainwreck last night and couldn't stop watching it. Same as you did.

  • @AVTOPRICESUZ
    @AVTOPRICESUZ Рік тому +18

    Nice Thomas! We have S class with 21’ inch wheel at the back it is stiff at the front it is good but I won’t recommend to get 21’ wheels!!! Bmw did nice job with 7 series I would get this!!!

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  Рік тому +5

      yes indeed for more comfort smaller wheels !

    • @casamia995
      @casamia995 Рік тому +1

      pure shit not reliable anymore

  • @romanmesina
    @romanmesina Рік тому +3

    Thank you for the review. When you're in the Mercedes S580, you're a "Baller". I never heard that said about BMW here in Miami. But, the S Classe is silent. I'm impressed. Time to buy.

  • @Shawn-ne6ld
    @Shawn-ne6ld Рік тому +4

    Love this guy. Fair and balanced reviews and a pleasure to listen to💯💯💯

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  Рік тому

      Thanks 🙏 please share our channel / videos 😎

  • @jamiep61
    @jamiep61 Рік тому +52

    I really like the S-Class It Is more stylish 😊

  • @gerrylachica8567
    @gerrylachica8567 Рік тому +15

    Heads of state prefer the Mercedes-Benz S Class

    • @booblam6919
      @booblam6919 Рік тому +3

      It will always be like that....royalty

  • @ronnie9187
    @ronnie9187 Рік тому +82

    As a BMW driver I would choose in this case ( or class) just from the looks alone the Mercedes. Beautiful. Just the front, the proportions of the grill and the frontlights are much more in balance. From the side the BMW looks better but that can also have to do with the bigger wheels that look more in proportion. But then again the back the Mercedes looks much more balanced, where the back of the BMW looks like a front instead of a backside. The color, my taste, the Mercedes is really perfect, although the BMW also not bad. From the inside both cars look extremely beautiful , although the horizontal oriented BMW screens are for me more pleasant to watch then the vertical organized Mercedes screen.

    • @questionyourself718
      @questionyourself718 Рік тому +11

      Imo the Mercedes is better from Outside but the BMW better from the Inside. Since you spent most time inside a car driving it my choice would be probably the BMW..

    • @dobees8183
      @dobees8183 Рік тому +4

      Leave the dark side. Come to Mercedes.

    • @eventusvantos1905
      @eventusvantos1905 Рік тому

      ​@@questionyourself718no its not lol

    • @questionyourself718
      @questionyourself718 Рік тому

      @@eventusvantos1905 It most definitely is

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому

      @@dobees8183 well Mercedes has a dark side too, the 4 cylinder C63s

  • @meroosa08
    @meroosa08 10 місяців тому +2

    I am using the S Mercedes since 1977 tell today and that is the unique funny trunk sound when you shot it … I was thinking it is from plate number but it seems it has this unique strange 😂 sound 😅 but anyway I love it 😍

  • @camilstoenescu
    @camilstoenescu Рік тому +36

    The S-Class any day.

    • @omarcarnegie7614
      @omarcarnegie7614 Рік тому +2

      Yes & Mercedes-Benz is more reliable than BMW

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +2

      @@omarcarnegie7614old Mercedes more reliable than BMW,not the new ones, try having a 4 cylinder hybrid C63 over a M3,sure the 4 cylinder hybrid C63 will spoil first

  • @Nickbaldeagle02
    @Nickbaldeagle02 Рік тому +7

    I'm a BMW fanboy, but as far as the large luxury car market is concerned Mercedes S Class reigns supreme.

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому

      w223 has now a lot of hate for the way it drives, the only upgrade that it has over its predecessor is just interior comfort, ride quality just went down and handles more like a BMW than a Mercedes

  • @rico4you
    @rico4you Рік тому +64

    7 SERIES looks like Citroën with those headlamps....S Class...is pure Class.....Now the "legs" came standard with the 7 series so we understand Thomas's choice 😉

    • @casamia995
      @casamia995 Рік тому +4

      definitely agree with you

    • @Yeolde777
      @Yeolde777 Рік тому

      Citroen is pure brilliance, so is BMW

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +3

      It has Rolls Royce presence that the S class wished to have

    • @rico4you
      @rico4you Рік тому +3

      @@seansiew5629 Rolls Royce presence.. 😂😂😂 ...please don't offend Rolls Royce!!

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +2

      @@rico4you luxury needs road presence,the S class just doesn't I own a w221 and w222 s class and those two still turns more heads than the w223

  • @deeprajparab4365
    @deeprajparab4365 Рік тому +1

    What i see is bmw is all about how you feel while driving and feeling the comfort but the mercedes is about what you see through ur naked eyes the beauty i go with mercedes as passenger

  • @Kuchuser999
    @Kuchuser999 29 днів тому +3

    S-class looks clean

  • @armanx2
    @armanx2 10 місяців тому +2

    i like 2015 BMW 7 so much more beautiful at least from outside

  • @frotzeugene7374
    @frotzeugene7374 Рік тому +39

    The s class 🙌 👏

  • @vikassarang9008
    @vikassarang9008 10 місяців тому +1

    The door handles on 7 series, look similar to what we get on economy hatchbacks

  • @achtungpolizei7614
    @achtungpolizei7614 Рік тому +6

    Tolle Vorstellung. Ausgesprochen professionell wie immer.
    Also es gibt kaum keinen Kanal der so seriös und professionell die Fahrzeuge präsentiert. Chapeau.
    Der sympathische Tester schafft es zudem noch diese vergleichsweise lahmen Oberklassenenten gut zu vermitteln. Grüße

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  Рік тому

      Vielen Dank! :-)

    • @achtungpolizei7614
      @achtungpolizei7614 Рік тому

      @@autogefuehl Und falls nicht schon längst geschehen so machen Sie Ihrer Freundin asap einen Antrag.
      Toll zu sehen wie Sie ganz offensichtlich in den Dingen dahinter steht und Ihnen eine sehr große Hilfe zu sein scheint. Beneidenswert zu sehen wenn ein Partner so positiv unterstützt.
      🤞

  • @syedrehanfida
    @syedrehanfida Рік тому +1

    Thank you for providing chauffeured segment for cars!

  • @jameslatief1
    @jameslatief1 Рік тому +4

    The front of the BMW is growing on me, but I would suggest that BMW make the taillights LARGER for a more proportional look.

    • @Dakotastx
      @Dakotastx Рік тому

      Same and I think the new grille actually looks good on the BMW SUVs

  • @jb6278
    @jb6278 9 місяців тому +2

    What a joy it must feel to drive these two amazing vehicles on the autobahn!!!!

  • @petercrosswind4936
    @petercrosswind4936 Рік тому +3

    They are both excellent and genuine premium vehicles and the ultimate in German automobile manufacturing, there are only two premium manufacturers in Germany,
    these two, everything else is screwed together inferior car manufacturing and self-proclaimed premium.
    Thanks for the introduction.👍

  • @briandippel8435
    @briandippel8435 9 місяців тому +1

    When owning a BMW in London Ontario you must book an appointment for service 8 to 10 days in advance. If you have a mechanical problem, your out of luck. Every part is expensive, the front and rear batteries are $1600. Change your coolant hoses, $4000. And one dealership in 120 KL. You have no choice. BMW owns the driver

  • @ronnyreynders5424
    @ronnyreynders5424 6 місяців тому +3

    the S-class please, so elegant

  • @tokyoali26
    @tokyoali26 Рік тому +1

    Recent times, it was very close fight between S class and 7 series..
    But, now, its only S class...
    The Looks of BMW..🤣🤣🤣🤦🏽

  • @DMHN84
    @DMHN84 Рік тому +5

    Can’t believe BMW doesn’t grow on me at all after after so many months

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +2

      It’s for people who want to make a statement, and S class is just a remake of the old G11 7 series

    • @yessinerabii7176
      @yessinerabii7176 Рік тому +4

      Same here, coming from a BMW fanboy, I'm still mad at BMW because of this pathetic design.

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +1

      @@yessinerabii7176 fair enough but Mercedes S class has a worse build quality overall compared to the 7 series, i would have a car with horrible design than the one that has garbage quality like Mercedes

    • @casamia995
      @casamia995 Рік тому +1

      me too

  • @iLoveMelakaCars
    @iLoveMelakaCars Рік тому +1

    Nicely done 👍👍👍

  • @AaronRandolphChen
    @AaronRandolphChen Рік тому +3

    Thomas, some segments of your video are mismatched between audio and visual files. You might want to check this again. Accelerating on the autobahn in the 7 series, for example is clearly mismatched between the audio and video files.

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  Рік тому +1

      Sorry, there were technical difficulties, now they should be fixed!!

  • @ottofrank3445
    @ottofrank3445 Рік тому +2

    Thomas just wanted to say it again 'YOU ARE THE BEST!'

  • @reabetswethipe2190
    @reabetswethipe2190 Рік тому +27

    Just look at how gorgeous the S-Class is👑🔥

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +2

      Gorgeous outside but interior is shit compared to the 7

    • @Msr.shaikh482
      @Msr.shaikh482 Рік тому +1

      Garbage 🗑️ S class 🤣🤣
      7 series is best 💪🔥

    • @eventusvantos1905
      @eventusvantos1905 Рік тому

      ​@@seansiew5629no its not 🤡

    • @eventusvantos1905
      @eventusvantos1905 Рік тому +3

      ​@ms0787 if s class is garbage then bmw is worse than garbage 😂

    • @imsorry620
      @imsorry620 Рік тому +1

      ​@@Msr.shaikh482Bmw Salon 🚮

  • @ThatCho
    @ThatCho 10 місяців тому +1

    The i7's new exterior look is polarizing for sure, but that's the point isn't it? 50% of us will be super fans of the look while the other will call it ugly. Luckily for BMW, they only need 50% to be really profitable!

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  10 місяців тому +1

      That’s exactly the point

  • @inspectorchicken
    @inspectorchicken Рік тому +4

    The BMW looks hideous on video but damn it has road presence in real life.

  • @evansobare5991
    @evansobare5991 Рік тому +2

    I saw the 7 series on Succession and now I want it

  • @balshamisi7296
    @balshamisi7296 Рік тому +258

    Mercedes all day long ❤

  • @vonsauerkraut
    @vonsauerkraut Місяць тому +1

    For me this UA-camr is an absolute BMW fanboy.

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  Місяць тому

      I have zero interest in promoting a specific brand. If you think i have a certain brand bias, it’s what you think but not what I am. I can think of no motivation to boost the sales of a specific brand. I rate per individual vehicle.

  • @dolarizacionenaccion790
    @dolarizacionenaccion790 Рік тому +11

    not even close! in real life, the 7 looks like a car crash, ungainly and poorly styled. the s class is understated, if a bit anonymous. MB wins!

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому

      Nope, so you are implying a Tesla looks good because it’s understated? S class looks cheap alongside with the plasticky ass interior of the w223

    • @dolarizacionenaccion790
      @dolarizacionenaccion790 Рік тому

      @@seansiew5629 not at all! im implying that the new 7 series is so ugly it cannot even defeat a bland car such as the S class.

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому

      @@dolarizacionenaccion790 bland also means ugly too, so I own a w221 and w222 s class and they look better than the w223,not to mention I gave the w223 a test drive, it’s just unreliable as per new Mercedes Benz now, my heart would either set on a G70 or Bentley or a Rolls Royce

    • @dolarizacionenaccion790
      @dolarizacionenaccion790 Рік тому +1

      @@seansiew5629 bland does NOT mean ugly, that is a false equivalence on your part. it merely means uninteresting or that it doesn't stand out. it's bad a $150.000 doesn't turn heads but it's WORSE when a $150.000 car stand out in a negative way for how ugly it is.

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому

      @@dolarizacionenaccion790 w223 is downright boring and nothing cool about that,and Mercedes sedans look like they come out of a photocopy machine, I just feel Mercedes only focusing on looking perfect while build quality and interior is being neglected. Up to you on what you think as I like a car that stands out,ugly is just an opinion

  • @raduadrian.c5503
    @raduadrian.c5503 3 місяці тому +1

    7 series exterior + s class interior = perfection

  • @machidaman
    @machidaman Рік тому +17

    Merc, that beemer is irretrievably ugly.

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +3

      Yeah this generation of S class looks the worst tbh,the w221 and w222 is the peak of luxury design on an S class,interior just screams cheap as well

    • @charis59
      @charis59 Рік тому +3

      that BMW is completely ugly

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +1

      @@charis59 ugly but it's distinctive, the s class has no presence at all

    • @charis59
      @charis59 Рік тому

      @@seansiew5629 distinctive ugly 🤢

    • @leopoldkunaka979
      @leopoldkunaka979 9 місяців тому

      The ugliest bmw i have ever seen.

  • @monroealie4030
    @monroealie4030 3 місяці тому +2

    There can only be 1 👑 and thats the S-Class...🏆

  • @abcdLeeXY
    @abcdLeeXY Рік тому +9

    You can’t respect your boss driving that 7 series 😅

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 11 місяців тому +1

      People pleasers only drive the problematic and garbage w223 s class

  • @raoullaskin9083
    @raoullaskin9083 Рік тому +1

    The BMW is the one brand that truly cares about people with disabilities. They make cars only a blind person could actually appreciate the appearance of... Like what is this monstrosity?

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  • @nubianpwr
    @nubianpwr 5 місяців тому +1

    Excellent review👍🏾

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  5 місяців тому

      Highly appreciated! Please recommend our channel 😎

  • @Carfan678
    @Carfan678 Рік тому +8

    S class the new 7 exterior still hasn't grown on me and I don't think it ever will

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +1

      Fair enough but still doesn’t look better than a Bentley and Rolls Royce

    • @eventusvantos1905
      @eventusvantos1905 Рік тому

      ​@@seansiew5629yes it does 🤡

  • @bongakhumalo3095
    @bongakhumalo3095 Рік тому +2

    Love your work Thomas.

  • @nicholaswoodward8191
    @nicholaswoodward8191 Рік тому +13

    I am a Mercedes man I own two. But I think this was brave and brilliant from BMW... my winner!!. Although that Mercedes steering wheel nearly did it for me.

  • @soheilmg3625
    @soheilmg3625 Рік тому +1

    Luxury sedans have only one king, the Mercedes S-Class. I have had the chance to see both of these cars in Germany, but what Mercedes offers is the result of collecting several generations of Mercedes S-Class and luxury design with smooth lines, which is the best way to design a luxury car, but the BMW 7 Series Confused in design and unknown! Maybe I'm a little old fashioned, but that's my opinion.

  • @Vitalserum
    @Vitalserum Рік тому +10

    If only BMW made the lower part of the split headlamps more visible when they're off, it would look so much better. Love the overall design, just not the "squinting" look.

    • @Tm0n3y762
      @Tm0n3y762 Рік тому +2

      I can’t wait for the LCI or facelift hopefully they clean the front end up a little other then that I love it

  • @brobroder7699
    @brobroder7699 10 місяців тому +2

    S Class For Sure

  • @p0sitiv467
    @p0sitiv467 Рік тому +13

    I have been a fan and owner of several BMW’s over the years. Now when I am considering next car (limousine) I will definitely get S-class. BMW has gone one bridge to far.

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +1

      Fair enough but S class in this generation is not luxurious but rather sporty,w223 seems like a remake of the G11 7 series tbh

    • @p0sitiv467
      @p0sitiv467 Рік тому

      @@seansiew5629 And this is what I am looking for in the big sedan. Like my weekender e38.:)

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +2

      @@p0sitiv467 for me i own both W221 and W222 S class, I would go for the G70 because it's more luxurious, the seats are comfier than in the S class, and it has a rear TV which I can enjoy watching while relaxing at the back of the car, I also may eye on the Bentley Flying Spur or Rolls Royce Ghost as they look better than the W223

  • @TURKLIFE01
    @TURKLIFE01 Рік тому +1

    I would take the W214 Exclusive in Black with Beige Interior with the Superscreen
    Good Video

  • @istenfasz
    @istenfasz Рік тому +10

    Two kings? 🤣
    There was and is only one KING: the S class.

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +1

      Bentley and Rolls Royce is the king of luxury

    • @istenfasz
      @istenfasz Рік тому +4

      @@seansiew5629 S class is the king of cars.

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +1

      @Isten Fasza how so? Have you even sit in both Rolls Royce and Bentley? I do because I sit an S class after I sit in those two and S class feels very cheap,Mercedes fans know shit about cars

    • @istenfasz
      @istenfasz Рік тому

      @@seansiew5629 🤣

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +1

      @Isten Fasza what's funny is you can't experience both RR and Bentley to make such comment

  • @Eric31477
    @Eric31477 Рік тому +1

    I owned a 2019 BMW 3 series (manual transmission) and well as a 2019 Mercedes Benz C300. I LOVED the sporty handing of the BMW but after any drive over 90 minutes, my lower back was stiff. However, this did not occur with the C300.
    Even though I am a MB fan first, I would LOVE to get another BMW but I am wary that I will not be comfortable after long drives.

  • @bartomiejmiara8975
    @bartomiejmiara8975 Рік тому +10

    Nice comparison. I definitely belong to those who rarely regulate the temperature - I can drive on one setting for several months. Hence, these arguments against capacitive buttons and touch screens do not appeal to me ...

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  Рік тому +1

      thanks keep tuning in !

    • @cricho15
      @cricho15 Рік тому +3

      That's good for you, isn't it? Not everyone has a stable continental climate and my wife, for example, changes the temperature 3 times per 100km. It's just an absolute downgrade in ergonomics. I love high tech and touch, but in some places it seems cheap and out of place.

    • @danielosdinia4258
      @danielosdinia4258 Рік тому +2

      Dude! These cars are bought by states across the world to transport presidents and kings. Can you imagine a president sits on the back of on these while sweating and his shirt around the arm pits soaked in sweat and as he leaves the vehicle the journalists and cameramen are waiting for him!!

    • @cricho15
      @cricho15 Рік тому

      @@dkrz8050 Switzerland, sometimes you drive through the tunnel (where suddenly the sun is gone 😆) and on the other side of the mountain you drive in the core shadow and afterwards you come back into the Mediterranean sun.
      It's funny how you 1. assume only you and 2. completely insane when you have to justify the normal use of a car.
      It is part of a high quality design that the functions are also 1. class.
      That is not the case here.

  • @yoseph2420
    @yoseph2420 10 місяців тому +2

    I'm starting to feel like car reviewers are genuinely getting paid just to give props to BMW for the most literal basic shit

  • @jefffarmer9200
    @jefffarmer9200 Рік тому +9

    Former BMW fan here: The Mercedes is classy and elegant. The BMW is brutalist and the opposite of classy. BMW has lot the plot. Even the dash looks like they just slapped a square screen on the dash, no integration at all.

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +2

      As a owner of w221 and w222 S class, the w223 isn’t that special to look at,which in turn looks like glorified Audi design with a Mercedes badge, and G70 has the luxury of a Rolls Royce at 1/3 of the price

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому

      @M.J.G. well the headlights and taillights scream Audi than a Benz, I own a w221 and w222 it still turns more heads than the w223

    • @eventusvantos1905
      @eventusvantos1905 Рік тому

      ​@@seansiew5629how does it look like a glorified audi you 🤡 You love the look of a 7 series 🐷😂🤣🤣

  • @MrWhaatay
    @MrWhaatay 3 місяці тому +1

    These 1960s is calling. They want their boring old looking dashboard back from the Mercedes S-Class.

  • @SaltyTubers
    @SaltyTubers Рік тому +5

    7 series looks like a doorstop mated with a Braun shaver...

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому

      meanwhile Mercedes designers focus too much on holidaying like Tesla designers, and also not to mention Mercedes is unreliable garbage as of now, i own both w221 and w222 and also sat in the w223

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 11 місяців тому +1

      The S class screams the unreliable garbage like the w220 ness in its look

  • @clips_297
    @clips_297 6 місяців тому +1

    At this point, it is now BMW VS MERC, they have left AUDI behind.

  • @TundeEszlari
    @TundeEszlari Рік тому +5

    Magical video.

  • @robert4you
    @robert4you 3 місяці тому +1

    Someone please fire the entire design department at BMW, and don't forget to fire the executive bosses as well. Dear lord, that car is horrendous looking. Huge fail, BMW! The Mercedes S-Class on the other hand is so freaking good looking. Mercedes has created a gorgeous, luxurious and pleasant looking car. 10/10 to the Mercedes S-Class, it's oozing elegance, class and luxury.

  • @kobebryant5135
    @kobebryant5135 Рік тому +5

    as a bmw fanboy, i would take the S class for the look... Lol

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому

      ride comfort is way down, especially now the G70 has the suspension tech from Rolls Royce, Rolls Royce>S class in terms of comfort

  • @NodirbekBazarboyev
    @NodirbekBazarboyev Рік тому +1

    Honestly, Mercedes ownes the status of luxury and comfort.

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 11 місяців тому

      Not when you compare the Maybach to a Bentley or Rolls Royce

  • @Timmahh85
    @Timmahh85 Рік тому +3

    Great review as always Thomas. Are there any hopes of seeing you test an Xpeng G9 soon by any chance? 😊

  • @VankoBaby
    @VankoBaby 10 місяців тому +2

    Once upon a time - yes. Now it's Mercedes. BMW destroyed everything, I was a big fan of the brand. It's staggering the rates their cars are going worse and worse.

  • @ZetaReticuli_1
    @ZetaReticuli_1 Рік тому +47

    Bmw exterior design is such a fail. Mercedes wins by miles honestly.

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +7

      To you yes, but for those want to make a statement, the 7 series by far is a more luxurious car compared to the cheap plasticky interior of the S class, and I own a w221 and w222, which both S classes looked far better than the new one

    • @ZetaReticuli_1
      @ZetaReticuli_1 Рік тому +1

      @@seansiew5629 I did clearly mention exterior design, didn't I. The difference between them is day and night dude.

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому

      @@ZetaReticuli_1 I understood that but I'm just giving my opinion

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому

      @Foxy ok so? It would outsell the w223, the new w223 interior is full of plastics and Mercedes with the horrible reliability now

    • @yoseph2420
      @yoseph2420 10 місяців тому

      @@seansiew5629 "I won a w221 and a w222!" while having a bmw m6 pfp. mf a 15 year old sitting in a basement ong.

  • @gamall1
    @gamall1 Рік тому +1

    I think the winner is Thomas. Incredible presentation and I wish I known him a while ago so I would make wiser choices in picking cars.

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  Рік тому

      thanks so much! Please share and recommend :)

  • @Bigbry8888
    @Bigbry8888 Рік тому +3

    BMW kidney grille ? More like a pair of lungs and full rib cage !!!!

  • @jkuhede
    @jkuhede Рік тому +1

    Before we question BMW designers, we need to ask ourselves "Does an apache helicopter look pretty?"

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 11 місяців тому

      For Mercedes, since our car looks too gorgeous,should we make them hit the workshop often?

  • @akpanedidiongemmanuel7224
    @akpanedidiongemmanuel7224 Рік тому +14

    I’d take the 7-series. I love the overall looks and the driving experience. The S-class has a very nice driving experience but the 7-series looks stands out.

  • @MrTimeless101
    @MrTimeless101 Рік тому +1

    the 7 series turn indicators flash like the battery is dying.

  • @Rockfun840
    @Rockfun840 Рік тому +3

    I don’t think this is a neutral comparison .. the review is leaning towards 7 series .. while S class is outstanding in many areas that hasn’t been mentioned in the review

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  Рік тому

      I mentioned pros and cons for both vehicles. If you watched full length you'll notice that I e.g. mentioned the better and wider rear-axle steering of the S-Class, that it drives very well and feels even lighter and sportier in corners. You can have a different opinion on the overall outcome or whats more important to you, but this was for sure a very fair and unbiased comparison, since I explained and showed every pro and con in detail without any personal leaning towards a brand

  • @AzizWaraich
    @AzizWaraich Рік тому +1

    I'm Benz lover but this time BMW impress me a lot.. but Benz make you feel superior..

  • @bigcarlo398
    @bigcarlo398 7 місяців тому +2

    You remember the dog with the big teeth from the Colgate commercial? Exactly how the bmw looks now from the front

  • @lukebruce5234
    @lukebruce5234 Рік тому +38

    7-series is so ugly lol, what have they done to it it's worse than the 4-series🤣🤣🤣

    • @ailrasyid1029
      @ailrasyid1029 Рік тому +1

      Ikr, they are even already sales failur

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +3

      Nah it’s just that futuristic style that people can’t accept, most BMW fanboys only want a sporty design on a 7 series. And it’s basically a 1/3 Rolls Royce, and Rolls Royce would adapt the 7 series design in years to come which soon enough makes the 7 series look good

    • @martinsvensson6884
      @martinsvensson6884 Рік тому +3

      @@seansiew5629 People just have a hard time accepting something ugly that's all :)

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +1

      @@martinsvensson6884 I guess you like simple looking things like a Tesla for example, but for me as a boss of a company a w221 and w222 has the bossy presence I want in a car so does the g70,call me no taste but at least better than seeing anything Mansory has ever designed

    • @martinsvensson6884
      @martinsvensson6884 Рік тому

      @@seansiew5629 I like the w116, w126, w140 and actually somewhat the w220.
      The new BMW is just plain ugly.
      BMW Aztec.

  • @lorieandpatrickdavies7483
    @lorieandpatrickdavies7483 10 місяців тому +2

    There is so much wrong with the BMW I don't know where to start. Everything is wrong, from the ridiculously oversized "lungs" on the front, to the silly double level lights, to the ugly paint colour, the bizarre styling, the dashboard that looks totally cobbled together and unfinished, silly tech over quality and good taste, man what a mess. The Mercedes, in marked contrast, is understated and classy. Absolutely no comparison, Mercedes S class is my pick.

    • @Sergesedd22
      @Sergesedd22 8 місяців тому

      Lo u sounds silly asf

  • @derberggraf5297
    @derberggraf5297 Рік тому +3

    Today a black BMW 7 Series drove behind me for some minutes. I swear, you you cannot stop looking in the rear mirror. It is mesmerizing how ugly this car is!

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому

      W223 is a people pleaser car due to the Star badge, and Mercedes makes money pit cars now

  • @ArthArmani
    @ArthArmani Рік тому +2

    The split headlights on BWM looks so stupid

  • @Beyond_matter_111
    @Beyond_matter_111 Рік тому +10

    Great job Thomas as always!
    I really love BMW's. I think they are the best all around luxury brand in the world. But lately they messed up their exterior design in some models. And I mean the M3 the M4 with the huge peculiar grill and now this strange front side in their 7 series flagship.
    In my opinion, a car, let alone a car at this level, should instantly give the impression that is beautiful once you see it and not make you doubt about it. Different is not cool,when is not beautiful. It's just weird.

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому +1

      Well a lot of BMW fanboys prefer a shitty engined Mercedes than looking at the beaver nose, there’s people who think a 4 cylinder c63 sounds better than the M3 because it’s ugly

    • @Beyond_matter_111
      @Beyond_matter_111 Рік тому

      @@seansiew5629 exactly! That beaver nose 😄

    • @seansiew5629
      @seansiew5629 Рік тому

      @@Beyond_matter_111 but again most of the guys who liked the 2024 C63 don't even have a clue that AMG was known for having V8 engine under the bonnets of C class for the most part like the C55 W203, C63 W204 and C63 W205, the W206 sounds like dogshit tbh, I like the look of the W206 C63 but it can't get over a vacuum cleaner Dyson sounding 4 cylinder

    • @Beyond_matter_111
      @Beyond_matter_111 Рік тому

      @@seansiew5629 you are right.The engine downside is another problem in today's car industry, especially with mercedes. When someone pays 130 - 140 grand, sure thing that doesn't want a car which sounds like a scooter.