TWO different problems?! You better charge them double! Here, let's do some math; for the first problem it's FREE, for the second problem it's FREE, so, FREE + FREE = FREE! What a deal!
@hovanthecool1995 Spare parts no doubt. I currently have a spare 450 board and 5600x cpu to build a kids pc. Gpu choices include an ex mining 580, or either 6600 or 6700xt i have not in use.
Another great one! I actually just had a buddy build a brand new rig, and he called me up freaking out because it wouldn't boot. No signs of life or power at all. He sent me pictures of everything inside and all cables looked seated correctly and everything looked like it was installed properly. First thing that popped into my head was let's disconnect everything non vital and see what happens. Boom, it booted! Started systematically plugging everything back in and it turns out it was something to do with front panel usb c. As soon as that cable gets plugged in, the system acts completely dead! That was a first for me in my troubleshooting history. We have yet to diagnose fully whether it's the motherboard port to blame, or the case port/cable to blame. At first glance it seemed to point towards a DOA PSU, but with a little knowledge gained from experience and watching these videos, we got his system up and running and gaming that night! Please never stop this series!
usb can have dead shorts in cheaper cases rarely which at best will cause the psu to not power at worst (and in my case with a front panel usb/sd card reader drive i was installing) take out the mobo and everything else on the 5V rail. All it takes is a cheap front panel usb design or shipping damage sometimes.
ive been building Pc's since 1990 ish. The introduction of those debug led's was one of the best things for diagnosing basic PC functionality issues ever introduced.
@@gorauma Yeah, the DrDebug LED displays were basically even on very cheap motherboards a couple of years back, but nowadays they only come with "premium" ones.
Those 2.5inch mechanical drives are so bad... I've turned a few absolutely useless laptops into useable machines just by tossing the old mechanical drive and putting in an SSD.
Few weeks ago i got one HP Mini 5103 lapton from 2011. The owner said that she doesn't need it anymore because it is too slow. She was only using it for watching videos, but it wasn't even able to play youtube anymore. I switched the old HDD to 120gb SSD and installed Linux Lite 7.2 on it. Now it works again decently and can even play those youtube videos
Very rarely do I say that PC parts are useless for all use cases, but those 2.5" hard drives really are! Too slow to boot from, and not high enough capacity for mass storage. You can buy a $20 SSD that is way faster than it for the same capacity.
I too have suffered from the "if I push any harder I'll break the motherboard" syndrome. I suspect it's a rite of passage for those who want to build computers.
it is! I build my first PC when i had 14yo and trying to push the damn things into the sockeds scared me because i did not want to "break" the mobo haha
I did that too with my RAM, and yet because I then realized the needed extra force to push RAM, I then proceeded to yank my graphics card without releasing the lock, breaking the lock in the process. Funly, neither the graphics card nor motherboard got any damage aside from the broken gpu lock just earlier this year. I gave my brother that graphics card and I am still using the same board no issues
I have 2 newer 3.5inch Seagate drives as extra storage and WD nvme as a boot drive. That looks like an old 2.5inch 5500rpm Seagate laptop drive and not surprised its failing. Good job getting the system back up and running Greg! ❤
welcome to the world of the normal guy, i gave up making the back of my builds look good a long time ago, if its hidden and i can't see it it doesn't exist, i dont get airflow behind the case, it's all hidden and i choose a few years ago to make it flat and put the panel on and call it good lol
Ended up doing a little Fix or Flop on my own PC recently. My system got to a point where, after a little bit of gaming, screen would go black and fans would ramp up to 100%. I would quickly hold the power button until it shut off. I reasoned that it was probably either the motherboard or the graphics card (7900 GRE). I was able to use my system without the graphic card (which I removed) with the integrated graphics on my 7600 CPU. When I got time, I put the 7900 GRE into my wife's 5600G system, and the graphic card ran well with 3D Mark benchmarks. So I bought a new motherboard (MSA Tomahawk WiFi this time) and did the old rebuild. Everything worked fine after that. ... With the Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals I have a 9700x coming so my system should be better than it was before.
had the same issue, to the point I had organised an RMA for the graphics card but before sending it I tested the PSU and replaced that. No issues since.
Even as a tech enthusiast for over 25 years now who knows all kind of PC stuff etc. I still enjoy watching FoF and sometimes, even I learn something new. Please, never stop doing FoF 💪
I'm usually sympathetic to people struggling to build their own PC's, but one glance at that thing and the choice of components, backward fans, cable management... poor guy definitely needed someone else to do it for him. It reminds me of my girlfriend's PC that her father built that I ended up correcting. But it is the thought that counts.
Hey Greg, I was wondering do you keep some kind of a log or spreadsheet outlining the problems, symptoms and solutions for each fix or flop video? It would be a very handy database!!
Gotta love what Greg does here...not only does he get it working, he also sanity checks other things like fans and whatnot to make sure things are how they should be.
I follow many big tech YT channels but Your Fix or Flop series is my favorite tech series on UA-cam! We can learn so much from Your vids. Thank You for Your work and Your sponsors for making it happen!
I had the exact same issue with my system a couple years ago. It restarted overnight after an update and got stuck on the motherboard splash screen. I finally got it to boot after disconnecting one of my SATA SSDs. Strangely enough it also had an old Windows partition on it, though I was booting from a different (NVMe) drive. Coincidence? Who knows. I actually thought of Fix or Flop while troubleshooting, which helped me slow down and take a more systematic approach. Love the service and content you provide. Keep it up!
I used to watch these regularly, but got busy with work. Now I saw one recommended to me again and ended watching a bunch, this series is just so damn addicting for some reason, please keep this alive, as I find this both informative and entertaining! I also encountered a similar issue with a faulty hard drive, not letting me boot into Windows without the recovery screen showing or load times taking so long like I was booting from an HDD. During one of the few times I didn't have an issue booting into Windows, I finally decided to check the health of my drives using CrystalDiskInfo and it clearly showed me my smallest and oldest drive (came from a PC my family owned when I was just a kid) was now having bad sectors. I was able to move my files from the small HDD to a larger HDD I had installed and after unplugging the bad HDD, it fixed my issue of long load times or Windows going into the recovery screen at boot. It also had fixed my other issue that I could not understand what was causing it - my PC not shutting down completely and just rebooting from time to time.
Suggest maybe that packing everything that the guy finds on the desk into the same computer may not be the best choice :) 4 SSDs? 32GB of ram? I think that machine would be better with only 16GB that runs at 3200MHz, than 32 at 2400 :) Also, those unknown brand SSDs will make some unpredictable problems in the future IMHO
The blue one reminded me of of the neo forza I found in my prebuilt, it played nice for exactly 1 month before it failed, replaced ram with Kingston fury 64 go kit and the ssd with 2 new Samsungs been running good.
Good job, Greg! To those that don't know, we appear to be heroes when we fix a simple problem. I try to teach those I help, but some don't have the inclination nor the time to troubleshoot on their own .. and so, we ( people like us ) stay busy. :)
Ram sticks can feel like that but for me it is the CPU coolers on screwing the four screws. The most scary one for me yet has been a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo. Just getting the two corners screws in felt like I had to put my whole body weight in without breaking the board.
Great job sorting this one out. I too am a fan boi of RX580 mystique. Bought used 1 ( 4 G ddr5 ) for 40 U.S ( 60 Cdn ) and inserted into a X58 board with 24 Gb RAM. Sweet ! Mix & match RAM not the best idea but doable usually with Kingston & Crucial. Some others play nice too. Currently working on a zero video out on a dated ASUS mainbd. ( ASUS P7H55-M Pro ) Cheers
I've had a no post issue recently because I added more RAM but I didn't disable XMP first. Basically, go in the bios disable XMP, add additional RAM then SAVE and EXIT, go back into bios enable XMP then SAVE and EXIT.
@@idhamproaqw98 It's a Seagate as you can see here 7:08 I never had a WD drive fail on me yet the WD Black 8TB drive in my computer now has over 15K power on hours and it's still going strong. And my custom NAS(Lenovo P510) has 5 WD drives in it all 10TB each and they range from around 23K all the way up to about 43K power on hours.( All drives are the HGST Ultrastar He10 series drives. HUH72101OALE601(2x), HUH721010ALE600(2x), HUH721010ALE604) I do have a Seagate Exos 16TB ST16000NM000J in my desktop also with over 11K hours and still going. I only had one maybe two Seagate drives fail on me over the last 23 years.
I once was helping my friend upgrade to a new gpu, and along that tried to enable XMP. However, because his memory was mismatched where 1 stick had a XMP profile while the other was just a generic JEDEC speed stick, enabling XMP made half of his memory disappear. I originally saw the mismatched kit and thought it was something funny like that, thankfully this was a lot simpler
Congratulations! Another fix! You're sporting a smartwatch this time. Sadly, I have no knowledge of how to identify those things since they all look the same to me. I do have one question though, in your experience in PC troubleshooting, does repasting the GPU help with hotspot temp that is over 100 c? I have a 3060, that shows a disturbingly high hotspot temp in Furmark.
The very first system that was not mine that I tried to fix myself while I was learning, I ended up frying it with a drop of coffee. It was on its side with an ISA debug card doing its thing while I leaned in to look I dripped coffee right on the motherboard and it shorted something and killed the board!
Post check, CPU starts up does a memory check, ram not seated properly display dram error and stop the posting process. Graphics card post check is after Ram check because CPU has to load instructions to the graphics card to system ram for check. It is hard to tell if stuff is seated in property, but I always use a flashlight if stuff is seated properly, you won't be able to see the top of the pins, that goes for the expansion slots and memory slots.
Not a PC user but after going through the research and ultimately buying a nice MicroCenter PowerSpec (G717) pre-built for my daughter, I really love this content and your approach to explaining and solving problems. Not sure I’ll ever switch from Mac having used it since 1986 but I am intrigued. Congrats on your success, great job!
@@sidgysoho1960 LOL, funny... not. The first Mac was introduced in 1984, and I started working with it in 1986 - loading in some cases 6 floppy disks just to launch one program. JFC was that painful. Still have one by Mac setup to remind me.
This was interesting. Debug led's are awesome. I stopped using seagate like 20 years ago due to multiple failure rate. Cable managment OMG . Good job Greg
Just wandering if all the sata ports were used with all the ssd & hdd connected to them while populating the 2 nvme slots? Usually the motherboard will disable a sata port if an nvme slot is populated which might have been used by the mechanical drive that got removed and presumed defective. Just a thought. Really enloy the "Flip or Flop" series.
What i learned by building a lot of cumputer is that it is best to have a little speaker 4 pins connected sp you can hear the beeps and alway buy a motherbpard with that LED lamps så you can se whats faultu, and always buy a motherboard with Flashback button. Done that misstake with the RAM a couple of times.......Thanx for another great video.
That rat's nest is why I will spend more on a case. I would rather spend extra money on a case where i can cable manage easily. especially since cases basically last forever.
Been here since the beginning of your series, both this Fix or Flop and the Deep Cleaning one, and I absolutely love each episode ever since they started. Without a doubt one of my top channels, and hence content creator, on UA-cam. Keep up the awesome work Greg as usual 👏😊
RX 580's still chugging along in sales o.o Wonder if we will ever get a GPU that sells similar to it after its EOS being made. almost 8 years now lol, one hardy card!
Yeah, I don’t trust shipping co either for a PC. I repaired a PC for a family member (costume H2O cooling drained completely) and sent it back to him via UPS in working condition. Needless to say, it wasn’t working when it was delivered. This was in the Orlando Florida area. I should have pointed him in your direction because I’m out of state.
It would be so easy for someone to purposely damage something (like a gpu) then reach out to you saying it's a broken machine knowing that you will replace the broken parts for free. Hopefully that hasn't happened yet, but if it hasn't, I guarantee it will at some point....
I've been building and upgrading pc's since before sims (my fist x86 box had a 286, I upgraded it to a 386 within a couple months), let alone dims. And I still cringe putting in ram. It just sounds and feels sketchy.
Yeah, they still do make new RX580s, because the past several generations of video cards have no entry level or low midrange segment. These cards fill that niche and generally sell for less than $150. I bought a couple of XFX RX580s for video encoding earlier this year. Though, you have to be careful and check the specs of the RX580 you buy, because there was a lesser Chinese only edition, which was basically a rebranded RX570. These were supposed to be China only, but they've made their way into western markets by way of Ebay and AliExpress. The RX580 "D" or "Chinese Edition" or "2048SP" has a core config of 2048:128:32, where the original RX580 has a core config of 2304:144:32. They have a noticeable performance that can't be made up by overclocking.
I've been following for a while. Most stuff seems pretty straight forward. If I compare to what I did last weekend. Running windows xp custom (Delphi ) software which only supports 32bit OS and has Borland database engine with a USB card reader and getting that all to run on a brand new windows 11 machine. Tell me how to do it. I got it working and it's in production now.
its a shame he wouldnt let you install windows on one of the nvme drives, but at least it has plenty of semi fast ssd storage, also a shame the laptop hdd somehow pulled the system boot up time down.
My boss's old prebuilt Asus VivoPC has a similar but different issue involving HDDs. The PC has a 2.5" SSD as boot drive and a 3.5" HDD as extra storage. For some odd reason when i remove the HDD, the PC would refused to boot up until i plug it back. This happened when i was replacing the dead SSD wth a new one and thought i could move the 1TB HDD to somewhere else instead of just sitting in there unused.
it's possible that HDD is still fine, just 'corrupted'. installing windows on a system with multiple drives connected during install can mess things up, because of how it deals with MBR/EFI. I once installed windows on a PC with two HDDs and the way it installed MBR is both drives had to be connected or it wouldn't boot
There might be one other issue - I saw that many of SATA ports were populated - on some older boards if you use M2 slots some of the SATA ports do not work anymore. If the drive was on like SATA5 or 6 it could be conflicting with M2 drives.
Thanks for the breakdown! A bit off-topic, but I wanted to ask: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). What's the best way to send them to Binance?
I've run into a similar issue recently where a secondary drive was causing the main OS SSD issues. Turns out it was the paging file I had assigned to the other drive whilst the drive flaked a bit. I guess it's best practice is to keep the paging file on the system drive itself.
The first time I upgraded ram in a PC I remember watching a video on here that said about making sure you apply pressure, so thankfully that was never an issue for me. What was though, was when I booted up and it would not post or just froze (cant remember exactly). Did a quick search on my phone and found out that resetting the CMOS would probably rectify it. Removed the battery, waited, reinstalled and yup that was it. Several years later, upgraded the ram on my current rig and forgot to reset the CMOS ... panicked that I had just bricked my then new PC, and when I calmed down about 20 mins later after swapping new and old RAM backwards and forwards, a lightbulb went off in my head "CMOS you utter donkey" 🤣🤣🤣
I had this exact issue with my son's computer. Wouldn't boot. Just kept cycling at the bios screen like it was going to boot, but never got to it. He had an SSD with an older disk-based hard drive. After much troubleshooting and getting to thinking there was something wrong with the SSD, I was about to purchase a new one when I thought to just remove the older hard drive and try again. Low and behold, it booted perfectly fine. The older hard drive did not have a boot partition at all, but there was something funky with the internals that kept it from working right.
Hey Greg - I know it's not mentioned in this video, but I know NZXT has provided some parts throughout this series, so I thought I relevant - do you have any input on how the info from Gamer's Nexus will affect this series and your ability to continue it, and whether you'll continue to work with them?
It is a bit complicated but to simplify it. When you access a file it will poll all the storage drives. If you have multiple drives when polled it will give a yes or no if the file is located on it. If you have a defective drive during this operation it will cause the system to pause (hang) while it attempts to answer the poll. HDD's are notorious for this type of pause (hang) when they begin to go bad or have failed.
Mr. Salasar, your videos have been invaluable in helping me remain calm and composed whenever I need to change a power supply or RAM. Thank you for everything you do.
Same thing happened to me, had the HDD first, then got a SSD, wanted to install windows on the SSD to phase out the HDD and I think I messed up somewhere in the uninstallation/new installation and it would do the same thing, wouldn't boot until I unplugged the HDD.
I'll give a tip. Windows manager, UEFI & newer Integrated Drive Electronics ( IDE ) completes the " Devil's Triangle " ! I could've said ( TPM ) Trusted Platform Manager.
i cant even cable manage my pc too. my rear tray is bulged from cables... i have a fractal core 2300... i think the tech engineer who fixed my system also felt the same as you greg about cable management. i cant get a modern chassis because i use bluray.
12:43 was funny with my first build ... it was 2013 the good thing is it was an age where you could find hundreds of videos showing and talking about how to build a pc and everybody talking about "it will click if you are done" so i believed and just pressed untill it clicks ... would NEVER pressed so hard or even nearly that hard without all the videos about the topic xD i still remember how i was like 3 times "even harder...!?" had the feeling like i would go nearly with full bodyweight ... but okay not even 60 kg not much to talk about there XD just checked 4 times "if its the right sight and angle and all?" yes ... ok so what ever is needed i will wait for the click and press .... at the same time i was like "yeah every moment now i will hear a break instead of a click ..." ;D
TWO different problems?! You better charge them double! Here, let's do some math; for the first problem it's FREE, for the second problem it's FREE, so, FREE + FREE = FREE! What a deal!
That's an insane amount FREE. I'm certain there's a law somewhere that for over x amount of FREE you'll need to add y% of FREE on top of that!
Don't forget the free tax, which is free. The free enviromental charge, which is free, so if you add all that the total is free.
dayum, bro was planning to give a pc to his grandkids ? that the type of grandparent we all need and deserve lmfao
Yea, my grandpa hated computers. He called them "infernal devices for idiots". Cool Grandpa giving his grand kids a nice starter pc.
@@cherrypoptart2001 Yep. I love being one of those techy, gamey granddads.
I’ve built 8 pc for kids and grandkids in the past three years. Just updated my oldest boy (43) today. I’m just a month into being 68.
That is a crazy good pc to give to the grandkids! GPU can be easily upgraded to a 3070 later on.
@hovanthecool1995 Spare parts no doubt. I currently have a spare 450 board and 5600x cpu to build a kids pc. Gpu choices include an ex mining 580, or either 6600 or 6700xt i have not in use.
Another great one! I actually just had a buddy build a brand new rig, and he called me up freaking out because it wouldn't boot. No signs of life or power at all. He sent me pictures of everything inside and all cables looked seated correctly and everything looked like it was installed properly.
First thing that popped into my head was let's disconnect everything non vital and see what happens. Boom, it booted! Started systematically plugging everything back in and it turns out it was something to do with front panel usb c. As soon as that cable gets plugged in, the system acts completely dead! That was a first for me in my troubleshooting history. We have yet to diagnose fully whether it's the motherboard port to blame, or the case port/cable to blame.
At first glance it seemed to point towards a DOA PSU, but with a little knowledge gained from experience and watching these videos, we got his system up and running and gaming that night! Please never stop this series!
Excellent troubleshooting! Exactly how I would've done it. Congrats!
usb can have dead shorts in cheaper cases rarely which at best will cause the psu to not power at worst (and in my case with a front panel usb/sd card reader drive i was installing) take out the mobo and everything else on the 5V rail. All it takes is a cheap front panel usb design or shipping damage sometimes.
@@trexfoodthat was my thinking too. Seems to be very common unfortunately.
ive been building Pc's since 1990 ish. The introduction of those debug led's was one of the best things for diagnosing basic PC functionality issues ever introduced.
Did you forget about PC debug speakers?
Debug led is useless imo
Bios debug 7 segment displays were the best, and those are skimped upon nowadays.
I haven't been able to get speakers to work in most modern boards we've troubleshot in this series. Not sure why.
@@gorauma Yeah, the DrDebug LED displays were basically even on very cheap motherboards a couple of years back, but nowadays they only come with "premium" ones.
Those 2.5inch mechanical drives are so bad... I've turned a few absolutely useless laptops into useable machines just by tossing the old mechanical drive and putting in an SSD.
that and a ram upgrade would make the laptop last for a while longer .
Few weeks ago i got one HP Mini 5103 lapton from 2011. The owner said that she doesn't need it anymore because it is too slow. She was only using it for watching videos, but it wasn't even able to play youtube anymore. I switched the old HDD to 120gb SSD and installed Linux Lite 7.2 on it. Now it works again decently and can even play those youtube videos
Very rarely do I say that PC parts are useless for all use cases, but those 2.5" hard drives really are! Too slow to boot from, and not high enough capacity for mass storage. You can buy a $20 SSD that is way faster than it for the same capacity.
New Fix or Flop? A must watch, drop everything you're doing!
Every. Single. Time. 🎉
I too have suffered from the "if I push any harder I'll break the motherboard" syndrome. I suspect it's a rite of passage for those who want to build computers.
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it is! I build my first PC when i had 14yo and trying to push the damn things into the sockeds scared me because i did not want to "break" the mobo haha
Until you actually do break something by pushing or pulling to hard 🫣
@@sp00n Yep, there is that.
I did that too with my RAM, and yet because I then realized the needed extra force to push RAM, I then proceeded to yank my graphics card without releasing the lock, breaking the lock in the process. Funly, neither the graphics card nor motherboard got any damage aside from the broken gpu lock just earlier this year. I gave my brother that graphics card and I am still using the same board no issues
I have 2 newer 3.5inch Seagate drives as extra storage and WD nvme as a boot drive.
That looks like an old 2.5inch 5500rpm Seagate laptop drive and not surprised its failing.
Good job getting the system back up and running Greg! ❤
The 2.5 hhd can be used as an external backup for now
Yeah, those 'White Label' drives as they're called usually fail sooner than retail bought ones.
"did you check the ram?" is the new "did you turn it off and on again?"
Was dealing with a no POST for hours, and it turned out being B1 and B2 failed three weeks outside of warranty…. Ugh
welcome to the world of the normal guy, i gave up making the back of my builds look good a long time ago, if its hidden and i can't see it it doesn't exist, i dont get airflow behind the case, it's all hidden and i choose a few years ago to make it flat and put the panel on and call it good lol
Ended up doing a little Fix or Flop on my own PC recently. My system got to a point where, after a little bit of gaming, screen would go black and fans would ramp up to 100%. I would quickly hold the power button until it shut off. I reasoned that it was probably either the motherboard or the graphics card (7900 GRE). I was able to use my system without the graphic card (which I removed) with the integrated graphics on my 7600 CPU. When I got time, I put the 7900 GRE into my wife's 5600G system, and the graphic card ran well with 3D Mark benchmarks. So I bought a new motherboard (MSA Tomahawk WiFi this time) and did the old rebuild. Everything worked fine after that. ... With the Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals I have a 9700x coming so my system should be better than it was before.
had the same issue, to the point I had organised an RMA for the graphics card but before sending it I tested the PSU and replaced that. No issues since.
Even as a tech enthusiast for over 25 years now who knows all kind of PC stuff etc. I still enjoy watching FoF and sometimes, even I learn something new.
Please, never stop doing FoF 💪
Loved the video, been on my yearly fix- or- Flop binge and love to see the series still going strong!
I appreciate that!
Nice. I was just binging this playlist when this one dropped. Very serendipitous.
I'm usually sympathetic to people struggling to build their own PC's, but one glance at that thing and the choice of components, backward fans, cable management... poor guy definitely needed someone else to do it for him. It reminds me of my girlfriend's PC that her father built that I ended up correcting. But it is the thought that counts.
Love your videos man!
keep up the great work! :D
I very much appreciate that!
Great fix and troubleshoot! Always educational!
Thanks for watching!
Glad to see the sponsor of the video was not NZXT you know why lol 😅
Why? What happened?
Hey Greg, I was wondering do you keep some kind of a log or spreadsheet outlining the problems, symptoms and solutions for each fix or flop video? It would be a very handy database!!
Grampa was trying to create a perfect vacuum inside the PC, you da man Greg
Did you try another SATA cable? I've seen this happen before where the drive was actually fine and it was a bad SATA cable causing the issue.
Gotta love what Greg does here...not only does he get it working, he also sanity checks other things like fans and whatnot to make sure things are how they should be.
Sometimes I miss this stuff, but I'm glad I didn't in this case!
This series never gets old. Thanks Greg for all you do.
Nice job on this fix. Always look forward to these videos. Keep up the great work on them.
Thanks, will do!
yippie a video just as dinner is ready
Im eating dinner also
I follow many big tech YT channels but Your Fix or Flop series is my favorite tech series on UA-cam! We can learn so much from Your vids. Thank You for Your work and Your sponsors for making it happen!
I totally thought it would be the no-name PSU. Glad to see it was a standard troubleshoot.
I was a bit hesitant about that unit as well LOL.
I had the exact same issue with my system a couple years ago. It restarted overnight after an update and got stuck on the motherboard splash screen. I finally got it to boot after disconnecting one of my SATA SSDs. Strangely enough it also had an old Windows partition on it, though I was booting from a different (NVMe) drive. Coincidence? Who knows.
I actually thought of Fix or Flop while troubleshooting, which helped me slow down and take a more systematic approach. Love the service and content you provide. Keep it up!
I used to watch these regularly, but got busy with work. Now I saw one recommended to me again and ended watching a bunch, this series is just so damn addicting for some reason, please keep this alive, as I find this both informative and entertaining!
I also encountered a similar issue with a faulty hard drive, not letting me boot into Windows without the recovery screen showing or load times taking so long like I was booting from an HDD. During one of the few times I didn't have an issue booting into Windows, I finally decided to check the health of my drives using CrystalDiskInfo and it clearly showed me my smallest and oldest drive (came from a PC my family owned when I was just a kid) was now having bad sectors.
I was able to move my files from the small HDD to a larger HDD I had installed and after unplugging the bad HDD, it fixed my issue of long load times or Windows going into the recovery screen at boot. It also had fixed my other issue that I could not understand what was causing it - my PC not shutting down completely and just rebooting from time to time.
2,5 inch hdd's are the worst you can have. Never use them at all.
Such a great series, gave me a lot of confidence to tinker on my rig and my friends when they've needed help.
Suggest maybe that packing everything that the guy finds on the desk into the same computer may not be the best choice :) 4 SSDs? 32GB of ram? I think that machine would be better with only 16GB that runs at 3200MHz, than 32 at 2400 :)
Also, those unknown brand SSDs will make some unpredictable problems in the future IMHO
Spoken like a TRUE builder of fine PC's. I fully commit to the Keep It Simple Stupid ( KISS ) principle.
The blue one reminded me of of the neo forza I found in my prebuilt, it played nice for exactly 1 month before it failed, replaced ram with Kingston fury 64 go kit and the ssd with 2 new Samsungs been running good.
Good job, Greg! To those that don't know, we appear to be heroes when we fix a simple problem. I try to teach those I help, but some don't have the inclination nor the time to troubleshoot on their own .. and so, we ( people like us ) stay busy. :)
please don't stop making this videos are great, also anxiety inducing :))
Ram sticks can feel like that but for me it is the CPU coolers on screwing the four screws. The most scary one for me yet has been a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo. Just getting the two corners screws in felt like I had to put my whole body weight in without breaking the board.
About that cooler's fans - probably,the frustrated gradpa just stuck it in , without checking the direction of the flow.
Great job sorting this one out. I too am a fan boi of RX580 mystique. Bought used 1 ( 4 G ddr5 ) for 40 U.S ( 60 Cdn ) and inserted into a X58 board with 24 Gb RAM. Sweet ! Mix & match RAM not the best idea but doable usually with Kingston & Crucial. Some others play nice too. Currently working on a zero video out on a dated ASUS mainbd. ( ASUS P7H55-M Pro ) Cheers
I've had a no post issue recently because I added more RAM but I didn't disable XMP first.
Basically, go in the bios disable XMP, add additional RAM then SAVE and EXIT, go back into bios enable XMP then SAVE and EXIT.
Another Seagate hard drive bites the dust LOL.
if it's a 2.5" WD it would drop their shit faster lmao
@@idhamproaqw98 It's a Seagate as you can see here 7:08 I never had a WD drive fail on me yet the WD Black 8TB drive in my computer now has over 15K power on hours and it's still going strong. And my custom NAS(Lenovo P510) has 5 WD drives in it all 10TB each and they range from around 23K all the way up to about 43K power on hours.( All drives are the HGST Ultrastar He10 series drives. HUH72101OALE601(2x), HUH721010ALE600(2x), HUH721010ALE604)
I do have a Seagate Exos 16TB ST16000NM000J in my desktop also with over 11K hours and still going.
I only had one maybe two Seagate drives fail on me over the last 23 years.
I mean those slim 1TB are notorious...
I once was helping my friend upgrade to a new gpu, and along that tried to enable XMP. However, because his memory was mismatched where 1 stick had a XMP profile while the other was just a generic JEDEC speed stick, enabling XMP made half of his memory disappear. I originally saw the mismatched kit and thought it was something funny like that, thankfully this was a lot simpler
*Sees new Fix or Flop episode but it's only 14 minutes*
Me: Ah man, this was an easy fix. 😭
Congratulations! Another fix! You're sporting a smartwatch this time. Sadly, I have no knowledge of how to identify those things since they all look the same to me. I do have one question though, in your experience in PC troubleshooting, does repasting the GPU help with hotspot temp that is over 100 c? I have a 3060, that shows a disturbingly high hotspot temp in Furmark.
Dude I’ve always enjoyed your content my dude. It’s addictive and interesting at the same time. Nice work homie 👊 Go Gators 🐊
I'm surprised how many fans are misaligned out in the wild. Yet another great video!
got to love a quick and easy fix love the vids keep them coming
True story Greg: I went nuts on one build, with a failure to boot, and a smarter tech found a case sliver shorting the motherboard.
Yep! We've run into that a few times in this series!
I very much appreciate that!
Great video, learnt a lot from this channel!
0:50 Nooo, why is the fan facing another fan 🤦🏼♂️
The very first system that was not mine that I tried to fix myself while I was learning, I ended up frying it with a drop of coffee. It was on its side with an ISA debug card doing its thing while I leaned in to look I dripped coffee right on the motherboard and it shorted something and killed the board!
Post check, CPU starts up does a memory check, ram not seated properly display dram error and stop the posting process. Graphics card post check is after Ram check because CPU has to load instructions to the graphics card to system ram for check. It is hard to tell if stuff is seated in property, but I always use a flashlight if stuff is seated properly, you won't be able to see the top of the pins, that goes for the expansion slots and memory slots.
There are two UA-camrs, Ill drop what Im doing to watch, You and Cleetus. Keep on, keeping on Greg.
To easy for you Greg.
But whoever built this computer should change hobby !!!
Damn! That's a really budget PC i love that hahaha
Not a PC user but after going through the research and ultimately buying a nice MicroCenter PowerSpec (G717) pre-built for my daughter, I really love this content and your approach to explaining and solving problems. Not sure I’ll ever switch from Mac having used it since 1986 but I am intrigued. Congrats on your success, great job!
And subscribed!
Much appreciated!
@@GregSalazar keep it up man, you’re a natural. All the best
Awwweeeee Shucks, . . . . get a room fellas. And don't bad mouth the early Apple MAC's !
@@sidgysoho1960 LOL, funny... not. The first Mac was introduced in 1984, and I started working with it in 1986 - loading in some cases 6 floppy disks just to launch one program. JFC was that painful. Still have one by Mac setup to remind me.
This was interesting. Debug led's are awesome. I stopped using seagate like 20 years ago due to multiple failure rate. Cable managment OMG . Good job Greg
Just wandering if all the sata ports were used with all the ssd & hdd connected to them while populating the 2 nvme slots? Usually the motherboard will disable a sata port if an nvme slot is populated which might have been used by the mechanical drive that got removed and presumed defective. Just a thought. Really enloy the "Flip or Flop" series.
What i learned by building a lot of cumputer is that it is best to have a little speaker 4 pins connected sp you can hear the beeps and alway buy a motherbpard with that LED lamps så you can se whats faultu, and always buy a motherboard with Flashback button. Done that misstake with the RAM a couple of times.......Thanx for another great video.
That rat's nest is why I will spend more on a case. I would rather spend extra money on a case where i can cable manage easily. especially since cases basically last forever.
cool video as always end i see your a f1 fan cool whath model is that in the back
Been here since the beginning of your series, both this Fix or Flop and the Deep Cleaning one, and I absolutely love each episode ever since they started. Without a doubt one of my top channels, and hence content creator, on UA-cam. Keep up the awesome work Greg as usual 👏😊
I Really like that nice yu-gi-oh card wall mount! ,
Which cards you got up there?
RX 580's still chugging along in sales o.o Wonder if we will ever get a GPU that sells similar to it after its EOS being made. almost 8 years now lol, one hardy card!
It seriously is a card that transcends time.
awesome videos men! watching from Paraguay
Thank you!
Yeah, I don’t trust shipping co either for a PC. I repaired a PC for a family member (costume H2O cooling drained completely) and sent it back to him via UPS in working condition. Needless to say, it wasn’t working when it was delivered. This was in the Orlando Florida area. I should have pointed him in your direction because I’m out of state.
It would be so easy for someone to purposely damage something (like a gpu) then reach out to you saying it's a broken machine knowing that you will replace the broken parts for free. Hopefully that hasn't happened yet, but if it hasn't, I guarantee it will at some point....
Keep it up, greg! Are there any more gear up episodes coming? P.s. i approve of the Creed record+ 😊
WOW.. DDR2 "a very old system" Makes me feel kinda old having worked with DIP RAM...
Just moooved into DDR4 recently. They were cheap in the used arena. Some value to be had. I skipped right over DDR2 !
I've been building and upgrading pc's since before sims (my fist x86 box had a 286, I upgraded it to a 386 within a couple months), let alone dims. And I still cringe putting in ram. It just sounds and feels sketchy.
fyi - around 6:20 i think you set the ram speed to the lowest setting
Note to the owner , Id get that PSU outta there, my cousin had one of the same brand, and it fried his board.
But it has RGB! That means it's really powerful and cool.
06:40 Me and my daughter call it the "Rotational Worm"... Just saying...
Can we get a compilation of "instant fix" that never made it into the series?
Do you ever run benchmarks off screen to make sure the systems are stable?
I had to clear CMOS on mine.. after changing the RAM.. On an older 970 board. It's still chugging along though. Old faithful
I noticed your G915 Keyboard. I run with that too. They need more wireless mechanical keyboards on the market.
Guitar video. :-)
I use Fikwot Nvme's in my system. Good storage drives.
watching this video using my brand new gaming pc...so sweet
Yeah, they still do make new RX580s, because the past several generations of video cards have no entry level or low midrange segment. These cards fill that niche and generally sell for less than $150. I bought a couple of XFX RX580s for video encoding earlier this year.
Though, you have to be careful and check the specs of the RX580 you buy, because there was a lesser Chinese only edition, which was basically a rebranded RX570. These were supposed to be China only, but they've made their way into western markets by way of Ebay and AliExpress.
The RX580 "D" or "Chinese Edition" or "2048SP" has a core config of 2048:128:32, where the original RX580 has a core config of 2304:144:32. They have a noticeable performance that can't be made up by overclocking.
What portable monitor do you use for fixing these PCs?
I've been following for a while. Most stuff seems pretty straight forward.
If I compare to what I did last weekend. Running windows xp custom (Delphi ) software which only supports 32bit OS and has Borland database engine with a USB card reader and getting that all to run on a brand new windows 11 machine. Tell me how to do it. I got it working and it's in production now.
its a shame he wouldnt let you install windows on one of the nvme drives, but at least it has plenty of semi fast ssd storage, also a shame the laptop hdd somehow pulled the system boot up time down.
My boss's old prebuilt Asus VivoPC has a similar but different issue involving HDDs. The PC has a 2.5" SSD as boot drive and a 3.5" HDD as extra storage. For some odd reason when i remove the HDD, the PC would refused to boot up until i plug it back. This happened when i was replacing the dead SSD wth a new one and thought i could move the 1TB HDD to somewhere else instead of just sitting in there unused.
it's possible that HDD is still fine, just 'corrupted'. installing windows on a system with multiple drives connected during install can mess things up, because of how it deals with MBR/EFI.
I once installed windows on a PC with two HDDs and the way it installed MBR is both drives had to be connected or it wouldn't boot
There might be one other issue - I saw that many of SATA ports were populated - on some older boards if you use M2 slots some of the SATA ports do not work anymore. If the drive was on like SATA5 or 6 it could be conflicting with M2 drives.
Thanks for the breakdown! A bit off-topic, but I wanted to ask: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). What's the best way to send them to Binance?
I've run into a similar issue recently where a secondary drive was causing the main OS SSD issues. Turns out it was the paging file I had assigned to the other drive whilst the drive flaked a bit. I guess it's best practice is to keep the paging file on the system drive itself.
The first time I upgraded ram in a PC I remember watching a video on here that said about making sure you apply pressure, so thankfully that was never an issue for me. What was though, was when I booted up and it would not post or just froze (cant remember exactly). Did a quick search on my phone and found out that resetting the CMOS would probably rectify it. Removed the battery, waited, reinstalled and yup that was it.
Several years later, upgraded the ram on my current rig and forgot to reset the CMOS ... panicked that I had just bricked my then new PC, and when I calmed down about 20 mins later after swapping new and old RAM backwards and forwards, a lightbulb went off in my head "CMOS you utter donkey" 🤣🤣🤣
I had this exact issue with my son's computer. Wouldn't boot. Just kept cycling at the bios screen like it was going to boot, but never got to it. He had an SSD with an older disk-based hard drive. After much troubleshooting and getting to thinking there was something wrong with the SSD, I was about to purchase a new one when I thought to just remove the older hard drive and try again. Low and behold, it booted perfectly fine. The older hard drive did not have a boot partition at all, but there was something funky with the internals that kept it from working right.
Hey Greg - I know it's not mentioned in this video, but I know NZXT has provided some parts throughout this series, so I thought I relevant - do you have any input on how the info from Gamer's Nexus will affect this series and your ability to continue it, and whether you'll continue to work with them?
It is a bit complicated but to simplify it. When you access a file it will poll all the storage drives. If you have multiple drives when polled it will give a yes or no if the file is located on it. If you have a defective drive during this operation it will cause the system to pause (hang) while it attempts to answer the poll. HDD's are notorious for this type of pause (hang) when they begin to go bad or have failed.
Thanks for the insight! Will keep this in mind for future issues like these.
Mr. Salasar, your videos have been invaluable in helping me remain calm and composed whenever I need to change a power supply or RAM. Thank you for everything you do.
@greg i wish there was someone like you what do in fix or flop but for uk
Same thing happened to me, had the HDD first, then got a SSD, wanted to install windows on the SSD to phase out the HDD and I think I messed up somewhere in the uninstallation/new installation and it would do the same thing, wouldn't boot until I unplugged the HDD.
I'll give a tip. Windows manager, UEFI & newer Integrated Drive Electronics ( IDE ) completes the " Devil's Triangle " ! I could've said ( TPM ) Trusted Platform Manager.
i cant even cable manage my pc too. my rear tray is bulged from cables... i have a fractal core 2300... i think the tech engineer who fixed my system also felt the same as you greg about cable management. i cant get a modern chassis because i use bluray.
Greg is the G.O.A.T
Great work
12:43 was funny with my first build ... it was 2013 the good thing is it was an age where you could find hundreds of videos showing and talking about how to build a pc and everybody talking about "it will click if you are done" so i believed and just pressed untill it clicks ... would NEVER pressed so hard or even nearly that hard without all the videos about the topic xD i still remember how i was like 3 times "even harder...!?" had the feeling like i would go nearly with full bodyweight ... but okay not even 60 kg not much to talk about there XD just checked 4 times "if its the right sight and angle and all?" yes ... ok so what ever is needed i will wait for the click and press .... at the same time i was like "yeah every moment now i will hear a break instead of a click ..." ;D
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Great video, totally watched the whole thing and not watching as I type. Keep up the great work!
We’ve all been guilty of this.
Especially when it comes to Greg’s vids cuz you already know it’s about to be a banger.
Great job.
Well that wasn't too painful for you Greg : ) x