Superlative Arms DI Adjustable Gas Block Field Test: Bleed-off vs Restriction vs Non-adjustable
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- Опубліковано 12 сер 2016
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Few gun pundits on youtube are as methodical, and thorough as Mr. Bell. Hats off to you sir for taking credible raw data & turning it into useful easy to understand information for all. Saves us novice a lot of time & money ;-)
Thank you!
Yes very well done. You must be an engineer...
At 19:30 you can clearly see that the bleed-off had far less gas coming back. The restrictive setting had gas going past his right shoulder in a huge plume of smoke.
This 100%, bleed off was more diffuse. Restricted has no where to go except through your BCG.
Yeah, 3 holes with bleed off (gas tube, muzzle, bleed off port), 2 holes with restriction. The question becomes is it enough difference to make a difference. That's up to you and what you're looking for. Using restriction, you get a velocity jump. My 18" SPR with SA adjustable gas, beats my 20" M16A4 clone in velocity by 25 to 50 fps. If I were to lighten the buffer and spring and bolt carrier, I might be able to reduce the gas volume required to cycle, and possibly get more of a velocity jump. To me, the SA gas block is a good tool, because you can decide what benefits are most important to what you're trying to do.
I’ve watched this video so many times. I’m getting ready to take my AR10 to the range and set my suplerative arms gas block. I love how well presented this video is.
Thank you
You are a breath of fresh air. Best videos on UA-cam hands down. Important information presented without ridiculous fluff or ego stocking. Thank you for awesome,.educational and entertaining videos
Wow, thank you!
Awesome review, very thorough and professional . Superlative could not have gotten a better reviewer
Thanks for watching
Great video and the information you provided in it is still true and valid in 2023. I will make one note to the video and that I personally have notice more of a benefit when using this adjustable gas block on SBRs and especially when they are suppressed.
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I really like how you present your videos. Very professional and very friendly. You have a new subscriber.
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I am going to advertise your channel and try to get you some more subscribers. Probably one of, if not the most educational firearm related channel I have ever come across.
Wow, thanks. This is one of my retirement projects. I retired from a surgical practice in 2014 and my kids started me on this project. I have been collecting and building for the past 25 years or so.
That explains why there is so much detail presented in your videos along with a clear and on track objective. I work EMS and have been involved with firearms for about 11 years now. This is a channel people can actually learn something from compared to most of the other more anecdotal channels.
Michael, you have the best and most informative videos I have seen. Thank you for the time you spent on making them. I have 3 Superlative Arms AGB's and love them and this video helped me understand how they work. Cheers!
Thanks!
This is such an awesome video. Thanks for all the work that went into this
Good objective and un-biased review. A shame about the little problems with some of the gear that were encountered on the day of filming. Consistency when doing tests is so important. Your comments about the 'erosion' claim were also spot-on i felt. Certainly some of those promotional claims could be considered overstatement, or a healthy does or artistic license ! Thanks for your time in putting the video together. Cheers, Dean.
Your results support what I already suspected. Thank you for your thoroughness.
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Great explanation, I just picked one of these up for my new build...8.5" 300BO w/can. I noticed your rate of fire was slightly faster with restricted gas setting, slight but perceivable.
I have been following this series with much interest. Just received two of these gas blocks today and look forward to installing & start to play with them. Very interesting design. Thanks for all your in depth work on this.
thanks!
I do appreciate your dedication to science, while I watched and re-watched your video I had a few cold beers, and enjoyed both thanks again
Thank you for the in-depth review!!! Helped me make an informed decision.
I had to watch this several times to see that you covered all the bases. Good job. I bought the SA titanium. Haven't even tried it yet.
A lot of people have thanked you but your videos have been so incredibly informative and helpful. I've learned a lot from you and am so happy I found these! thank you again!
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Mike, what a great review and channel, I'm glad I found it, and your data is VERY much appreciated. I had very similar results when I got mine adjusted and tuned in at the range. Mine also didn't hold open at five clicks, but did at 6 clicks, however the ejection pattern was in the 4-6 range indicating that it was undergassed, and I found that 14 clicks worked well for my upper in restrictive mode. I wasn't able to shoot as much in bleed-off mode due to a pesky thunderstorm, but will be back out to finish up soon. Seriously, thank you for the detailed review, I subscribed and will be checking out more of your content.
Thanks!
Really appreciate your thorough and scientific approach to this gas block and its effects on the gun. You and Paul Harrell are exemplary in this regard.
Thanks! I watch a lot of his videos.
I've only got five minutes into the video and I respect the hell out of the way that you do this process. Just like some other people have said it's very methodical and thoughtful in regards to different possibilities from changing the gas system. Thanks to you I'm going to purchase this device to go with my new free float handguard I think this company should sponsor you.
I appreciate that! Please tell the company that!!
I found your channel through this excellent scientific video and just had to see what more you had to offer. Shame it seems your channel never fully caught on and you've moved on to other things, but I hope you are proud of this gem of a channel you have published as an excellent resource for people like me way further into the future than one could reasonably expect from youtube content. I have almost 700 subscriptions and very few have i been compelled to make a similar comment, so thank you.
Thank you!
Very informative, also very straight forward, professional and thorough. Thank you for taking the time to do this!
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6 years later and this video was hugely helpful! Great Job and Thank You!!!
Glad it helped!
Phenomenally thorough work. Outstanding. I'm so glad sir I found this video as I was contemplating (now sure) this exact gas block for my suppressed build. Tip of the hat to you and dinner's on me if you ever get up my way. Bravo Zulu!
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Fantastic video! This video helped me determine what gas block to get and how to adjust it. Thanks!
This was the absolute best video I have seen on the Superlative gas block. Now I know that it will work better than a standard gas block when running my 300 blk suppressed pistol build, AND that it will work even better when I build my first piston operated build. Thank you for this and GREAT job!
Thanks for watching.
Fantastic video. Love all the info in it and all the test scenarios you performed. Right now I'm shooting a AR in 6ARC with a 24" barrel. I've been testing different powder/bullet combos and thought I had a new load I would be happy with. Now the twist, I've been running a restrictive gas block, I guess we'll see what happens when I switch to the superaltives bleed off gas block. The reason I bought one was I'm having another upper done in 6 ARC and the gunsmith chambering my barrel only uses superlative blocks. (We shoot PRS) 6 ARC is tricky to load for as to getting good velocity AND have temp stability. Last season I ran VV N150 with a velocity of just over 2600 fps. I've been testing other vihtavouri powders and have settled on N540 with a 108gr eld-m bullet that has a mv of 2676 fps. Let's see how much the bleed off system slows it downs. If it's too much I'll stay with restrictive.
All your videos have been super informative, going to share on my Facebook!
Thanks for your support.
Thank you for using your time for this, excellent work!
A hidden gem of a review. I'm just now discovering this. This block is on my Spikes Roadhouse and I didn't know it.
I will definitely tune my .308 down away from the 2'clock ejection. Man the recoil is violent. I have no desire to
use the by pass. Thanks a lot!
Thanks for watching!
Awesome testing, very impressive with how you did everything with your tests.
Thank you!
Awesome informative video, I've had my gas block for a year. I didnt completely understand how to adjust it so it bleeds the most suppressed, I only had 27 turns on it and I wasnt happy but didnt know it could get better. I cant wait to start at 40 and adjust from there.
Glad it helped
Great video. Love the way you break it down and make things very clear.
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Just a quick hello from Denmark in Europe, and thank you sir for a great eksplanation of this gas block system.
You are welcome
The best breakdown I’ve ever seen. Thank you for your time and diligence!
Very welcome
Why do I feel like I just went to gas block college? I'm glad to see someone out there that does the work and shows why he says what he says rather than just giving off the cuff opinions. Good job Sir. Thanks.
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Great and very useful video sir! Saved me a lot of time and questioning regarding this gas block system.
Mike you should be very happy about this work. I'm very impressed. You have helped out tens of thousands on understanding the rifle and the gas block. Sup has a great product. I think this gb will be very useful with a carbine length sbr or pistol both sup and non sup. My only gripe is my settings will be different at 20 degrees vs 90 degrees. I'll have to hold a few numbers in my head. Cheers.
Thanks!
Thank you, Mr. Bell. You just taught me all I've wanted to know about gas blocks. Something that I've been dreading and avoiding to learn for years!
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@@MichaelBellmbell556 Thank you! I most certainly will. I've subscribed as well!
This was the only company that made a block for my fulton armory m110 than you for the amazing info definitely made my purchase easy
Thanks.
Outstanding work.
Superb testing. Thank you for the fine attention to detail an the explanation of said detail
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Thanks for this. Great info. I’m thinking about switching to an adjustable for my new build and you’ve greatly helped me think about how to approach testing it.
Very welcome
First video of yours I have found. Vital content with great presentation and data. Thank you so much! I think I'm sold on this gas block too.
Just one thing, MY EARS @15:00
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Got my sub. Absolutely love the the thorough testing & explanation. I think the only thing this video could use is chapters; but I see that this video was uploaded quite a long time ago. Great job, sir. 👍👍👍
Thanks
A very thorough study with real life conclusions. Thanks for your hard work. Your study led me to buying this gas block for my .308 build.
Does it work well with .308? I have not tried it with different calibers.
@@MichaelBellmbell556, I'll be finding out! Just received it this week and my brother and I will build the gun next week. :D Can't wait to see it in action!
@@markej4801 Please post your results here so we can all see if it works with .308.
That was one hell of an awesome test and explanation. Subscribed. Thanks!
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Majestic Mike!
I do love some good numbers. The tools involved probably cost as much as the gun itself, so thank you for doing this. If Green Mountain sold that finned barrel in a a wider variety... I'd have less money. You're the only demonstrator I've seen on youtube yet using that barrel, so bravo.
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Great video. Very good information.
Great Video my friend. Answered a lot of questions. I want max velocity so I'm definitely going restricted.
Thanks.
Well done, very educational! I am new to the "short and quiet" world. After my first quiet round I realized that the gas blowback was a new issue for me. When I opened it up for cleaning I discovered my second issue. :) It was obvious that excess gas and particulate was being dumped back into the action and into my face. There are cute "shields" for the charging handle and DIY "fixes" fixing the problem at the source is the obvious and correct answer. However, as a reloader, this adds another factor to the "recipe". Guess I'll have to do more research at the range!! :)
Reloading will give you even better control over the final performance. Doing this kind of research is a lot more fun than being inside a lab !! :o)
Feel free to check out my channel and other videos. I am excited about a video I'll be doing in a couple of weeks on defensive ammunition. Research is key to making good decisions. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year !
Really well done, very informative. It answered a bunch of questions I had, and some I didnt.
Thanks!
Purchased two of these gas blocks after watching this video, thx doc, and of course, liked and subscribed.
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One stop education right here. I got all the info I needed. Thank you.
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Very good analysis. Logical and clear. I'm a subscriber! Thanks! This convinced me to get the Superlative Arms instead of the Seekins Adjustable Gas Block.
Thanks!
Thank you, Mike! Your methodology is excellent. I (personally) would put your videos on a par with Paul Harrell's videos. A lot of watchers out there would say this is high praise indeed! You, sir have gained another subscriber in myself now that I have had a chance to watch some of your vids.
Wow, thanks!
you did a great video very thorough
I love your videos! So detailed and informative.
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Your video has helped me decide to get this gas block because of the bleed off feature. I'm running a 10.5 in barrel and want to mitigate the added pressure towards the rear of the rifle since the gas block is closer to the chamber. Thanks again.
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Very well done unbiased test with great information.
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Wow, excellent video, the best video I've seen in longtime
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You and School of American Rifle are the zMost Imformative Channel@ THANK YOU
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Sick as beats man like the intro!
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Thanks for this video!
Wow, impressive review!
wow. my mind is spinning. but keep going Mr Bell!
Man, great presentation very informative and well thought out
Much appreciated!
Very good info! Thanks for putting this together!
Thanks for watching !
Thank you for this information. As someone who loads a large variety of calibers I could see the difference in velocity being extremely important for someone who wants to shoot PRS or ELR, as a difference of as much as 70 FPS could lead to an impact point changing several feet in one direction or the other when shooting long distances.
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Great review, very professional. You have a new subscriber here as well.
Thanks!
How do you not have more subscribers? You give a way more detailed breakdown of the stuff you cover than most popular channels AND have a full auto lower!
Well, tell your friends. I'm picking up subscribers steadily. I am new at this video thing but would be "playing" with my firearms anyway. This is just one of my retirement projects. Thanks!
Thanks for doing this, I haven't been able to find any info on this thing at all.
I like the piston kit even better.
Nice video. Keep the science coming. Thank you
Thanks. Merry Christmas!
This was very thorough and informative. Thanks a lot!
You're very welcome!
You earned my subscription. Awesome work. It was nice to see that many freedom seeds being sent. Maybe one day the ammo price will go back down.
I hope so. Thanks for watching!
This is a great, and in depth video. That being said... this seems like a lot of work just to get gas to work...
It is not bad. I go slow with the steps for educational purposes. But it is nice to be able to fine tune your rifle. Look at the 15:00 mark on this video and see how consistent the brass ejection is. This is a smooth running system....ua-cam.com/video/cUAReGmOLAU/v-deo.html
Very informative and educational
Thank you for sharing.
Wow very well done.
Excellent video. Explanation was perfect
Glad you liked it
Excellent video, thank you.
Thanks!
Fantastic and informative video
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Great job explaning how they work. Subbed!
100% not ever close to how I figured it worked.
I had no idea that on bleed off, you basically have a direct hole from the gas port to the bleed off hole. 🤨
I figured the gas pressurized the system, THEN it bleed off.
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That high ping from the piston is something else, like polishing steel with sandpaper
Excellent video
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Useful data. Thank you.
You are welcome
Crazy good video. Thank you.
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I have 2 of these gas blocks and still haven't been able to tune it correctly. Lol. Hopefully I can use this video for reference next time I'm at the range to help me out. Thanks brother
Thanks for watching.
Really great review without any silly "bro" talk.
I got my first upper for my first ar15. It has a 16 in barrel with a carbine length gas system and 15 in mlok free floating handguard. From what I have been learning, I assume it will be overgassed. I think an adjustable gas block may help it. Could return the upper and get the exact one with a mid length gas system is my second option. Thank you for the EXCELLENT video!
Try it like it is if you already have it. Factory uppers are often slightly overgassed so they can run weak ammo.
Quality science. Quality dude. Quality video.
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Great test.
Thank you!
Great video! Detail oriented and informative. I'm a simple man, I want .936 Adj GBs and reliable Piston conversion kits for AR-10 style projects. Not asking for an end to world hunger.
Superlative Arms only has DI gas blocks in .936.
Michael Bell ya Iknow, it's disappointing. I feel like machining and torturing my own piston system to retrofit -10 style platform .
Nicely done. When you take great numbers like these, you should follow up with some basic CHI-SQUARE tests to figure out if the differences in velocity are "statistically" significant.
very helpful. well explained. thank you.
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Wow! Do u know how long it took me to find this type of explanation? 🎉thank you (7 years later).
Another great video Mike, I really enjoy your reviews and use them to help me choose parts for my builds. I'd be interested to know which AR combo you have used or built that you enjoy shooting the most? Thanks again!
I like so many different ones. As far as factory pistons PWS long stroke system is nice, and light. Went it comes to uppers I have put together, I like the combination of PSA FN CHF barrels, light keymod rails like the BCM KMR and piston system from Superlative Arms(now). The TD 415 uppers I picked up are a lot of fun to shoot , were relatively cheap and are a knock off of the HK 416. I don't know they are all fun. That is what is so nice about the AR 15. You can do so much with the platform. I have everything from belt fed 22LR uppers to 458 SOCOM uppers.
I had this gas block in mind for my ar10 308 pistol build after seeing this video and a couple other like it. While I just finally received my silencer, I had previously noticed with the SA in bleed off that it feels like there is much less gas directly in my face and eyes. I’d imagine that will be more pronounced with a suppressor mounted. I never used my SA gas block in restriction but compared to my stock lowpro gas block I can perceive less recoil and less gas directly in my face. Also my stock gas block was over gassed from the manufacturer and I always gas a nose full of gas and eyes watering after dumping a full mag.
The excess gas goes forward away from your face.