Is it Worth Cleaning Out Your EGR? [1HD-FTE]
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- Опубліковано 20 тра 2024
- What is an EGR? And why should you clean it out? Find out in this video! I will compare the power of this 2004 100 Series Landcruiser before and after we clean out the EGR. It seriously brought the vehicle back to life!
Note: This is over 600,000km worth of soot. This is not something that needs to be done regularly.
Note 2: It is illegal in some states and territories to block your EGR. Please be sure to look up your local federal laws before attempting to block off your EGR.
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Yes I washed my EGR by taking it out of the car and leaving it in the rain forever. Huge power increase!!!👍👍👍
The best way 😂
Thanks for the shout out guys 👍
Keep up the good work! 👌
Top Job by a couple of pro's, you both look very comfortable with mechanics.
Thanks for another great vid
Wow thanks so much. I own a 2000 Landcruiser 100 series with the exact same engine, hasn't given me any problems, hasn't let me down simce i bought it in 2012, but this was very insightful. Otherwise great video, Cheers from Zimbabwe🇿🇼
10mm doesn't sound like much but because it is no longer a smooth surface, it increases the drag immensely.
Regarding the fuel lines, use a bit of masking tape to number them.
Thanks for posting, really helpful
Good Job Will, On my engine I took the valve cover off and turned it over until both inlet valves were closed. Using a right angled scraper I made up and throttle body cleaner I cleaned out all the ports one by one until finally putting an air blower down the port to expel the loose carbon and TB cleaner. Make sure you stand well clear doing this and protect the paintwork ! Cheers Jamie
Great Video Thanks to you and your Dad! The egr system on diesel engines seems to be such a controversial matter. We have been quoted from - 1200 to 3000 dollars to have someone look at this issue on our Mercedes sprinter engine. Most shops simply want to disconnect the system and do a remap.
What a great job and especially a fun project with your dad.
Thanks for that it was very helpful and interesting keep them coming
Great Vid mate - I will suggest checking the valve clearences too. Mine were closed and they made a massive difference once fixed
Did same to my 2011 Colorado the other day, its back to 11km per litre on the speed limits around SA. It was back to 8 km per litre and got stuck on idle about 5 km from home. To get up my street to the house i needed to idle up in 1st low range. Greaf effort.
Great video just what I was looking for
Thank you for the video! Would have been nicer if the music volume was turned a bit lower so we could hear you better :)
My 2004 vx prado definitely needs this to be done cheers
I have a 1987 mercedes 300d with only 162k miles. I removed my egr and blocked it off. Then pulled the intake and found it had 1/4 inch of greasy soot and the intake ports on the head were about half restricted. After scraping all the gunk
And cleaning it out there is a noticeable difference in power and better mpg.
Agr sucks. Good luck on your project. Stay safe.
EGR reduces nitrous oxide emissions by lowering combustion temperature in the combustion chamber. other than that, an excellent video.
great vid! I'd have been tempted to just lay my propane torch in the intake, lay it on the ground and burn it out while drinking a beer. Thats the lazy man way!
Not sure but it looks like Dot 4 in master cylinder. They should have Dot 3.have seen Dot 4 destroy the seals. Hope to help.love your videos cheers Ian
Nice work lads, Hope you add a catch can!
Most definitely 👍👍
Thanks will
Здравствуйте, вы егр клапан не глушили, все помыли и установили штатно?
Try oven cleaner instead of degreaser though not for cleaning out the cylinder head intakes.
Thanks Will, I watched yours and Dan's video and convinced me to do it. My FTE has 380km and my Nissan YD25 has 218k and it's just one of those things I have to get done I guess.
Would highly recommend a catch can after cleaning it out. It’s the only thing that will stop it from happening again!
@@WillsLandcruiser Will do, blowby on the navara is hectic. Does your 1hd fuel pump have a mad tick at idle?
@@benandmichelledotnet all diesel injector pumps are pretty noisy. That’s just natural. And every engine will have a bit of blowby, that’s pretty normal. As long as it’s not excessive or chuffing like a steam train then you’re fine
have you done the valve clearances on that motor ? cheers
Very well done young man and give me yet again why 100% NEVER do an on engine chemical clean as all that crud get dissolved and shoved through your engine.
The way you did it is the prefect way to do the job "RIGHT" The most expensive way for the bloke has to pay someone but 110% correct.
Who wont all that shit getting loosened up and shoved down into combustion damaging rings & bores.
Sad but some people are sucked into the running chemical cleans with no idea what they are doing to there engines.
Good work mate.
Thanks heaps for the kind words! Couldn’t agree more, you’re saving the internals of your engine by taking the time to clean it out properly. It’d run like a pig with all that crud on the pistons
Good on you thanks
On the LR 200 and 300 TDI ports in head two thirds blocked up recon I got large mug full up of exhaustey oil mess went from 70 to 90 mph top speed
Call bs on your before and after what's your throttle position reading for both them 'runs'?
Thanks
Is there any possible disadvantage to just deleting the EGR? (other than legal ones)
I'm quite surprised, now knowing what was wrong on the loom, that the engine light / limp mode never came on
Great video mate . How many of those km did your dad put on the car ? Was I seeing correctly, is it into the 600s
I think he bought it around the 380 mark a few years ago. It’s done well to make it to the 650 mark without any real maintenance apart from the regular service. These engines are tough as nails
great video! wondering if its worth cleaning if you plan on deleting anyway? any advice would be appreciated
Yes definitely clean the intake! Don’t worry about cleaning the EGR itself but even if you delete the EGR, the intake will still be full of crap like you saw in this video
did you check your catalitic converter?
Geez that's a super slow increase in acceleration, I think my 1HZ is quicker than that!
A wash while ur at it too 👍👍
Chevy Brown I’ll pass that comment straight onto dad so it’s not only me telling him to wash his car 😂😂
Well done great job with the egr and intake clean.
I’m a diesel mechanic and have worked on many 1HDFTE engines.
Depending on how many kms the vehicles got check the valve clearances and on many occasions this makes a big difference.
Also replace all filters, air, fuel with genuine filters.
Also I recommend only use BP ULTIMATE DIESEL.
Also those injector lines need to be replaced every 120,000 kmls.
Injectors can be sent to your local diesel fuel shop to be tested for spray pattern and spray duration pulse.
Good luck I love these engines and service every 5000kml.
David Swieca Honestly I don’t think those injector lines or injectors have every been replaced. It’s definitely in need of a birthday and I appreciate your feedback! I should do the same with my 1HZ too
Did i read the ODO right 617,777kms? Now that its clean time for a catch can right? Great effort by the way. I'm not keen enough to pull my intake off my santa fe yet so I've been using a can of Penrite P26 Diesel Foaming Intake Cleaner everytime I do an oil change and it seems to be helping quite a bit.
Yes that’s correct! Bit of an old girl haha. It’s not a fun job at all, but it is very important! Definitely catch can time for the cruiser, I agree
Did they do the inlet ports?
Great job always good to see what's inside these motors. What did you do with the gunk inside the head?? I have a 2003 HDFTE manual with 190ks my fuel consumption is usually around 11 litres per 100ks. I blocked my EGR at about 50ks.
Hope your did new injectors while in there.
MAP sensor filter is also common to fail and will cause low power symptoms.
Did some research into this today because the 100 series I’m working on at work currently has similar symptoms and you’re very right. They can definitely be the culprit 👍
Hi
did the cleaning make a real difference in the terms of power and fuel consumption?
If your intake would've been plugged up ,I would say that the cleaning would help ,but removing of 1/4 inch of that oily deposit can' help too much
or it can????
Hey mate, there was actually a noticeable difference! If you look into my later videos, you’ll find there were other problems with that engine holding back its performance, but cleaning the intake out did help a lot because all of a sudden there’s smooth airflow and it’s not disturbed by rough soot on the way in. If you go to the trouble of doing this though- get a catch can and blank that EGR. You’ll thank yourself for it
First test you brought it up to 2k rpm and then tried to run it up, and second test you brought it up to 3k rpm. Is that a fair comparison?
Hi my friend, nice video, I need some help from you, I have got 1hdfte, it's popping up Check Engine on dashboard, I tried to run diagnosis, it come out with Accerelator position sensor switch malfunction, so should change it or just clean up EGR and Air Intake, like what you did, Thankfully
My recommendation would be to take it to your local mechanic
TPS is near the accelerator pedal... Most of the time just requires disconnect and electrical contacts cleaned
holy crap what a difference! Great video, any other tips, I think i'll get the toyota part for the EGR delete. Anything else worth doing while i'm there 245,000 km
Would be looking into injectors for sure. I think the FTE’s like to have the injector lines replaced fairly often too
@@WillsLandcruiser I think I might try the liquid moly intake cleaner then do it all at 300k
@@WillsLandcruiser mines hit 260k kms now and I'm getting soot around the exhaust, I think it's nearly time to give it a birthday. I only do about 10,000kms a year in it as I'm only 2.5kms from work.
@@Rubibi-saltwaterjim yep good idea! After rebuilding one of these things now, I’d be doing a full intake clean, EGR blank, replace injectors and it wouldn’t hurt to replace the big end bearings while you were at it if you wanted to go that far!
Great video. Did your dad's 100 have any work done to it for the first 600 thousand klms? ie catch can, egr delete, secondary fuel filter etc.
Nope none at all apart from services! That’s what justified all the work we did to it at 630,000 😂
@@WillsLandcruiser thanks mate you're a legend. After hearing that I'm leaving mine alone until it starts slowing down. 👍
@@Normacfan i’d definitely recommend installing a catch can ASAP, and replacing injectors and injector lines every 300,000- those small things will keep it all running nice and smoothly for way past 600,000. But yes, it does seem to be possibly to go without these things for a long time
@@WillsLandcruiser thanks again Will, appreciate the advice.
Clean it then block it off, makes a big difference. It’s a stupid idea to begin with.
Hopefully you have added a catch an to the mix stop all that oily fumes going in
Did you clean the ports in the head or leave them that would’ve been interesting 🤔
Hate to see what all that gunk does to the rings and pistons
I like your videos young fella 👍💯
We gave the ports the best scrape out we could without taking the head off, and definitely a catch can on there now 👍👍 shocking stuff isn’t it? And thank you for the kind words!
Quick question Will, hard to tell from your video and Dan Vs Car. Are there’s gaskets under the intake manifold? If so, did you replace them?
Yes there sure are. Big rubber gaskets. From memory it’s a 3 or 4 piece gasket that seals around the studs also. I would always *recommend* replacing a gasket if you’ve taken it out, especially if it’s done a couple hundred thousand. There’s also a heap washer gaskets on the studs that value at $8ish each so be careful not to lose them!
Will's Landcruiser Mods great thanks for the info mate. I though there would be, just doing some prep to get all the gear together. I’d hate to get it all apart and find out there’s a long lead time on parts. Thanks for the prompt reply, I’ll get them on order before I start unbolting things 👍🏼
@@jimmyjones2426 no worries! All the best
Will's Landcruiser Mods another quick question for you mate. Is there any need to crack the fuel lines at the injectors to bleed the air on restart?
@@jimmyjones2426 Always a good idea. It’s easy to get an air lock in the lines and I normally crack 3 or 4 and sometimes that’s enough to get it running again
Hi great video I have 1999 either same engine I have a jerking problem it’s big jerks when shifting I think third to fourth gear or may be some times full rpm stuck at 3000 and reaches full rpm big big jerk to the ride only that time smoke blows and vanished after that at the speed of 140 some times Speedo dial died and then plz help ?
Sounds like a clutch mate. Go see your local mechanic
Is your Cruiser for sale Will?
Hey mate curious to know what the fuel consumption has gone back to and how many kms cheers
for my bmw e60 525D after cleaning egr i got like 10% improvement in terms of fuel consumption, however the second thing that really was noticable was acceleration. I was thinking that my turbo going bad but once i cleaned egr turbo power came back
Go to Toyota for the adapter instead of the egr valve $ 99.00 and a catch can and blocking plate.
Ha Ha that $99 is $135 in WA actually the same price as Amayama so not to bad
If you only have to clean the intake once every twenty years, I think it's not worth screwing with the EGR. Just clean everything and get a decent tune on the ECU and fine tune the EGR and forget about making it non-standard.
Was there some soot when revving/driving before cleaning out the intake? My 1HDFTE with 460k seems to be blowing some soot and it's stock. I only just got it but have known the previous owner and am sure this has never been cleaned.
Is it black soot or more of a greyish colour? Black soot is unburnt fuel and you commonly see this when planting it before the turbo has time to spool up. You see it a lot in my videos too because my HZ doesn’t have a boost compensated pump so before the turbo is at peak boost, it’ll be running a bit rich. Of course the FTE has a map sensor along with other computerised bits so it should compensate fuel for the air it’s getting anyway. It could also be a blocked air filter?
I’ve seen more of a grey soot in diesels that live their life in town and never get a proper run on the highway. If you’d just bought the vehicle I’d be doing a complete service- all filters and oils if it needs it, and then taking it for a nice 30 minute run on the highway for starters
@@WillsLandcruiser It is more of a greyish soot, It has been sitting for the better part of 3 years only started a once 8 months ago to shift it out of the way before me buying it a couple weeks ago. The rear diff centre cooked itself from lack of oil and is the reason it was parked up - and I can't give it a good run just yet until I get a new one/rebuilt. For now it's just moving with the front diff. And yes, first thing I did was all new filters and oil.
But yeah even just putting around in first it seems to blow a bit of soot, particularly when giving it little revs and taking off. Clears up almost completely if you hold an rpm.
If I remember I'll reply here with what the cause is and if a good run solves the issue after I get a new diff.
@@Beng177 look forward to hearing how you go! Hopefully nothing too major!
@@WillsLandcruiser rightio, found the intake gasket was half missing away up the front part of the manifold. The entire lot of manifold bolts were loose and after taking off the crossover bit off it was basically flopping around with roughly a 1mm gap. not ideal at all!! Cleaned all the intake out and surprisingly there was maybe half as much soot as what was shown in your video. No buildup at all in the valves/head. Don't think it needed to be cleaned if it weren't for having to replace the intake gasket.
chucked it all back together tonight, started & runs good. I owe it to videos like yours, don't think I would have done it otherwise.
Still a bit smokey but all the mechanics I know (that have seen it in person) say the same & reckons it just needs some fresh diesel, some injector cleaner and a good run. Got a new diff for it today so hopefully should be able to shortly!!
@@Beng177 always great to hear success stories :) Great work!
Great Video but, I usually wear gloves when working with diesel soot. :)
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Great result Will, been enjoying all your videos
currently modifying 105 with Son, started as lamb on its way to beast !
P.S good idea to wash engine first, to stop any crud entering opened areas.
Doug Eastick Thank you! They’re a great project, so much fun and so much potential! And yes, Dad’s whole car needs a good deep clean 😂
It's worth eliminating it, simply writing off the software lines so it doesn't open close anymore and close up the return pipe with a blind flange piece. Done.
Cleaning EGR? Clean inlet manifold from oily soot, then chop EGR with axe.
Next chop all exhaust piping from turbo and install 3" straight piping.
Drop oil pan off, clean pan and oil inlet.
Don't ask me how I know, you don't want to know.
Thank me later.
Cheers mate. It’s booked in for an overhaul early next year and we’ve got a 3” exhaust sitting in the shed ready to go in
@@WillsLandcruiser Nice one. Love straight pipey on these engines. They want to breath.
That's doing it the hard way. I would have just cleaned the outside with degreaser then sprayed egr cleaner into the air intake making sure I don't hit the maf sensor. Much easier and does a better job. You just need to get the engine up to running temperature before you start spraying egr cleaner.
Should of tested both on the grass
Great videos,Can you delete the music please
@7:14 is where you worked out you need a mate with a parts washer.
Sure would have been nice aye 😂👌
😲 Wow. 617k is the mileage... Km or miles?
Yeah kilometres here in Australia 👍
Hahaha egr is to reduce NOx. Came out in the 90s for toyota. Its a service part. Needs to be cleaned. Blocking just means you will need to need clean it less. Doesnt give more power, you just dont loose power over time. Also brakeclean works better than degreaser but costs more. If you have time. Just sit it in a over cleaner bath overnight (lazy way to clean)
Wait! Fair enough the engines choked as fuck but you shifted at just over 2Krpm and lugged around at 1Krpm(before turbo spool) in second gear then after the clean you shift at 3Krpm putting you at 2Krpm (withing turbo boost spec) in second. Aples to aples please. I get its hard to remember after a day or so but still.
Other than that. Keep it up
Liam Cooper Yeah nah I’m pretty new to the EGR stuff haha as you can tell. I may have been using “power” incorrectly, what I meant is that the engine was very choked and as a result of that it’s sluggish because obviously the AFR is all wrong when it can’t get the air it needs.
And yeah I realised it wasn’t the ultimate comparison, you’re right. But it does give a fair indication, and if you watch closely it shot up in the revs in 1st as well as 2nd gear after the clean. It may have not been exactly the same change into 2nd before/after but there is a huge difference in how fast it climbs in revs now that it can breathe
@@WillsLandcruiser absolutely. It doesnt take much to choke it. Interestingly, how did you clean the head fully?
To block the egr, the just need a blanking plate. A retune of the electric governor maybe required. Im not too sure about the sensing side of the egr on a FTE motor. But on the early version it was as simple as just putting a blank plate in. If you wish to keep the egr then a good catch can is recommended. Will help slow and stop the build up as it wont have oil to mix with.
Liam Cooper Yes the poor thing was struggling a bit. We just did the best we could and scraped a heap out, got in there with degreaser, high pressure cleaner, air nozzle, all that. We only went as far as the intake manifold so a real decent clean would show even better results. I personality wouldn’t like to keep it on there but I do realise it’s “illegal” to block them. I reckon we will be getting a catch can system pretty soon
@@WillsLandcruiser its only illegal if you get busted with it. Basically if you're stock they wont look at you. If you get a shit tune that blows heaps of smoke and block your egr, you will get looked at. So many people get bad diesel tunes. I dont know how they dont understand that smoke is bad news for a diesel...
Liam Cooper Yeah aye black smoke means a rich ratio right? Not good at all for Diesel engines. Well thanks for your advice! I’ll take all that into consideration and I definitely reckon dad needs to spend some money on it 😂
Just delete it best thing I ever did on my ute
Awesome video, thank you!
For anyone else wondering, it had 617,777 km on the clock. Which would explain the buildup.
Toyotas are infamous for losing a bit of performance after half a million or so ks.
Does that cruiser really have 617,777km on it?? That's insane! (Although totally believable being a Toyota Cruiser)
Haha yes, dad’s cruiser has about 630,000 now and mine has 620ish. They’ll go forever
I use oven cleaner 😂
The EGR is an absolutely ridiculous device by the climate brigade. I've removed mine all together! Good luck to the average person who can't just clean it out every 50-69,000 KMs. The damn thing just needs to be removed.
Don't forget to custom tune the ECU as well.👍
Pro tip, delete it if it don't need it
Washing it all into the grass, you must be kidding me 🤢
2021 and you are cleaning the egr INTO THE ENVIRONMENT?
seriously?
isn't it your country where the world first saw an ozone whole in the atmosphere? should have made aussieht up, it was before your birth though.
What an environmental disaster! You should have taken the parts to a proper diesel shop where they would have done an environmentally safe proper cleaning.
Did they do the inlet ports?