00:00 Karen Read: Compelling Evidence 00:27 The Broken Tail Light 01:34 John O'Keefe's Hair 06:28 Eyewitness Testimony 17:31 Failing Relationship 19:57 "I Hit Him!" 27:36 Key Evidence for the Defense Catch up on MA v. #KarenRead here: www.courttv.com/tag/karen-read/?
She backed into Johns car, 42 unaccounted minutes. Glass and, hair can be planted. I hit him was not reported at first. Only later. How long to die in cold at 2 :27
@@Penny_LaineKaren Read hasn’t cracked yet because she’s unwilling to take accountability for her actions. The people being blamed for a cover up haven’t cracked yet because there is nothing for them to admit to. There isn’t a chance in hell that someone involved in the “cover up” wouldn’t have cracked by now if there was a coverup. Especially, when the FBI got involved. Someone would have flipped to save their own ass. The FBI also found no evidence of a conspiracy.
Karen, has tried to drag down anyone and anything she can with her. Her ludicrous behavior, has got us to this point. She should be ashamed of herself, the fact that ANYONE is backing her? Shows how poor society has become. You guys down there in Norfolk County should come live in reality in Essex County. You people have made Massacre look very bad.
She may or may not be guilty... but there were so many errors and poor judgement in processing the evidence in this case. There is so much DOUBT surrounding the entire investigation.
Not to mention missing & destroyed evidence, conflicts of interest from the judge to the investigators & a federal investigation. It just muddies the water too much to get the conviction the CW wants!
Karen Read's vehicle data, her own words, her 3 calls to her parents in the middle of the night, and the physical evidence irrefutably proves that Karen Read ran over John O'Keefe with her SUV then chose to leave him incapacitated on the ground with a fractured skull to freeze to death alone. Also, the light color vehicle that Lucky the plow driver saw was John O'Keefe's SUV driven by Karen Read beck to her crime scene. This is the Ring camera footage Karen Read was so desperate to delete that she insisted on going inside John's house after she left the hospital although she never bothered to speak to John's children
If I were ever in an emergency situation in Canton, Ma. I NEVER call Canton 1st responders. They can’t be trusted. Especially the ones who grew up in Canton.
Your agenda to install Jeffrey Epstein pedophile protectors and other criminal networks of your dual citizen tribe into local police and DA offices will fail
Police, Judges drink and drive ! We had a Judge who was the Strictest on people driving while drunk and ended up getting fired himself for the same crime! I served a few police officers that drink and drive also! First ones to pull you over just because I was a Bartender! They could Never get me because I Don’t Drink and Drive!
Sooo she was going backwards at 24mph, slammed into him, they were all peeking out the windows at different times and able to see the vehicle, yet no one heard or saw the actual incident? 🤔 Yeah.. sounds legit 🙄 shes also the crazy girlfriend but they invited them to their home after the bar and no one saw or heard them fighting that night while they were out. Im just so tired of this case already. Show some absolute evidence or drop it. This is getting ridiculous.
@@bethmccrae2714and….. she somehow knows how to hit a person in the arm without causing bruises or broken bones and hit him hard enough to kill him……. This is what your saying? Try to imagine this visually and please explain to me what you believe happened. As all the experts cant do it from the prosecution or defence side experts. Except trooper Paul and apparently you as well. Maybe you can explain it better then the trooper as he showed he has no idea 🤷♂️ how its possible. 😂😂😂😂
Seeing that lady google how long it takes to die in the cold at 2:45 am, getting rid of the dog, and all these other "coincidences " is a hell of a lot more evidence than they have on Karen, yet shes the one on trial. This whole thing is a joke. They messed this investigation up from the start! Should have dug deeper on everyone at the property before they made a judgment. I have a feeling its going to be a mistrial and we are going to be going over this circus of a case forever. 😒
@@Joslinemk171 how about all those butt dials and delete calls ? The sally port video, the visible huge piece on the car from the ring video. The criminals are those who botched the investigation. How can the troopers not go to the crime scene after seeing John's body with red eyes and even telling the medical examiner that it was from a physical altercation?
Of course they didn’t swab OJO’s wounds, that would be too practical!! What an incompetent and compromised investigation conducted by deceitful MSP with blood on their hands. Also, I thought Dr. Russell was very reliable, qualified and credible since the first day she testified. IMO. Justice for KR and OJO
I have never heard so many gathered looking so many times out of a window, as it was supposed to be an afterparty. They were all under influence of alcohol, and to me , all these people looking out a window within minutes SMELLS badly - for them
Maybe because they noticed O’Keefe travelled to the house with them but hadn’t entered the house and wasn’t responding to his phone. I’d be looking out the window too.
The looking outside at the car makes sense to me. Someone came in the house & said someone’s car was outside. They had been expecting John, knew he was having trouble finding the place, so of course they’re going to look outside. Especially once they’ve seen the car was indeed there and several minutes pass but still they didn’t come inside.
@@brandybiscoff9685 no, THEY didn't come in.... And tell me HOW DO ANYONE KNOW, HE/SHE OR BOTH WASN'T INSIDE ? The house wasn't searched... It smells of rotten fish.
The "compelling" witnesses for prosecution are more compelling towards KR'S innocence because they were all sketchy and more compelling that they framed KR and committed perjury inspite of trying to "esplain".
Watch Alberts testimony then get back to me!.....no broken bones, never went outside to check on him, dog bites on him, gets rid of the dog, digs up his basement, gets rid of cell phone, retires from the force the shortly after!.....C'mon, total cover up!
@@RoadGoose69 Can you point me to another 15+ person conspiracy between private citizens and law enforcement to frame an innocent person for murder? I could not find a single one. This would be the first time that it ever happened. 37 people die every day from drunk driving fatalities EVERY day
I believe he was getting attack by their dog and he may have struck their dog to stop and that pissed their son off -the son’s healing knuckles prove punches thrown.
@@123marlanamarsthe photo of Colin Albert’s damaged knuckles was taken over a month after John’s passing. There are photos of him in between the death of John and the healing knuckles photo that show no damage to his knuckles.
@@123marlanamars He was definitely rattled, trying to stick to the narrative. The witness 'Tractor Pooper' 😱 Also, getting rid of phones, dog, staying inside the house whilst everyone's at the scene, refurbing the floor and poor collection of evidence, inside, outside and on the body 🤔🤥
KR and her attorneys have changed their stories a half dozen times....bite/no bite is just the latest...they're no longer claiming a bite but a SCRATCH!! Nicely transitioning from a bite to a bite/scratch to now just a scratch. Garbage,
Law enforcement LIED UNDER OATH. Multiple did in fact. They got rid of phones, dogs and the house after basement remodeling. Many many things show true corruption and perjury.
@@bethpatriots7290 Jen has shown she has not been consistent on any of her testimony by statements changed, time frames changed, butt dials, deleted texts, etc. Sorry you can’t see that but she did herself no favors getting up on the stand and opening her mouth. Just hope the feds are looking into her life too!
From all the testimony from beginning to this point nothing has been proven that Officer Okeefe was hit by a vehicle. Even the ME was unable to determine. Cannot wait for the defenses next experts giving thorough true accident reconstruction. The defense having the plow driver Lucky stating he went past the home several times and not seeing Officer Okeefes body between the hours he worked up and down street. The dog bite specialist not only co wrote 1 but wrote two peer reviewed papers on the subject of dog bites. Was a previous ER Doctor as well as having worked for law enforcement for 7 years and the criminal Justice system for years before retirement. More education attained then multiple news reporters together who are reporting and making their uneducated opinions on the subject.
The defense accident reconstruction "experts" never even looked at the vehicle data that prove that Karen Read struck John O'Keefe, so their conclusion that they did not see evidence is meaningless. Of course they did not see what they failed to even look at. And the other "expert" on injury plays games with saying he saw no evidence that John's head struck the vehicle, but Karen Read striking John 's body and causing him to hit his head on the frozen ground is still caused by Karen Read and her vehicle
The Alberts n Higgins showed O'Keefe the texting with Karen. He fought, got jump by family. EVERY 1 WAS DRUNK. Albert didn't let his house get checked. Got rid of dog. Demolish basemet. Slept through it. SMH
Trooper Paul is such a clown. His answers were as if he was a 12yo child trying to recite his little speech for class. No shot the jury takes him seriously.
Trooper Paul collected the correct data from the vehicle and currently identified the precise point in time that Karen Read struck John O'Keefe and that data is unrefuted. He was just a poor witness who needs training in public speaking and how to testify. But his data is correct
How do you know that? There is no proof. Further, neither the defence or dad's explanation makes sense given the injuries. I had a car wreck out here on 12/9/23.Still have pieces of the tail light showing up in my driveway from that day that have not been there before. I seriously doubt someone is planting them.
@@Friendofstfrank the fact that the police had the vehicle for 2 hours after impounding it and then finding the tail light pieces after. Then got caught misinformation on the reports to make it look like they found the tail light pieces 1st, then went to impound the vehicle. Come on bro. Either this is a cover up or they have some REAL clowns 🤡 in charge down there. I personally believe its a combination of both factors and Proctor and Paul will both be having very different duties very soon.
Impossible. The pieces of taillight from Karen Read's vehicle and John's shoe were found underneath undisturbed snow, while Karen Read's vehicle was being towed . It was not possible for those pieces to have been planted
She is guilty...first I thought it may be an accident..but..after I heard her foul rage on the phone to John all night long after the incident. She knew that she hit him and , was trying to find out if he was fine. When she backed up the SUV at 24 miles John saw it and shielded himself by raising his arm and That cut his arm when the taillight broke on impact. There must have been a sour note between them. Trooper Proctor had a foul mouth..but Karen mouth is equally foul.
@@bethpatriots7290 actually the time they noted when the vehicle was towed was incorrect. They towed the vehicle over an hour earlier that previously stated.
I watched the live today. The trooper who captured the cell data and the ME were the best witnesses the CW have presented in the last 8 weeks. Everybody else has been evasive, dishonest and in some cases like Trooper Paul inexperienced, ill qualified and in over their heads. This is all just my opinion. I didn’t know anything about this case until the live streams started here and in Emily D Baker. I’m watching from the UK as a couch juror and at this stage I am convinced KR did not kill Officer O’Keefe. But I do believe he encountered some blunt force trauma to his head, he was bitten by a large animal and he fell to the ground. He was so intoxicated that couldn’t get up and was left to die in the cold. I just wish the O’Keefe family could get definite answers so they can start their healing.
Also a couch juror here in az, USA and I wonder if the dog did the whole thing and they covered it up just because they thought they could. Like maybe the dog was surprised at someone else coming in the house, grabs JO’s arm they both struggle and JO slips falls and hits his head in the struggle. I get that he also had a wound on his upper eye could have been a very violent attack. Edit to add: as a dog groomer alone I’ve seen the bites that groomers receive from a dog that is less than pleased to be there. No expert clearly but I’ve probably seen more dog bites than most and this looks like it was A very violent attack.
Couch juror num 3 watching from Cork City, Ireland 🇮🇪😂I agree with ye,, im thinking John started arguing with someone in the house,, another 1 or 2 " jumped on" and the dog attacked in the frenzy of the fighting that was going on and all had to be covered up... The fact that he suffered blunt force trauma,, dog bites etc was definitely proven I think too
oh no according to lally hes a very important witness trooper paul perfect expert jury were laughing apt then u gotta think lally said karens car outside fair view 12.45 the phone guy says 12.40 karens phone connects wi johns wifi wonder if the jury has noticed.
💯 very disrespectful and makes me think she is not a good person. Her boyfriend is dead and his grieving family is right there and she's smiling . Ugh!
Not enough evidence? She was obviously intoxicated, she may not have intentionally mowed him down, yet she hit him which resulted in death- Vehicular homicide - and may not reach 2nd degree murder.
It is not out of the realm of possibility for the ME to be unable to make a conclusion on manner of death but the jury can still determine homicide. It has happened before. We know the cause - blunt force trauma complicated by hypothermia. The manner, however, cannot be determined by the ME in this case.
@@DrKnowsMore Trooper Paul couldn’t explain how he ended up 10 feet past the side walk or how the phone ended up under him. What about the dog bites? I just don’t see 12 people all on board she hit him with out doubt. We’ll see.
Not true, there just have to be a few people in the right positions. Like Proctor for example. Then everyone falls in line from there. If you really understand how all of this works, you would understand just how untrue your comment is.
the person that couldn't find the google search of JMC, along with the deleted calls, who testified that that Johns apple health data stated he was going up steps meant he was going up the "hill" on the road, who also said K!ll me now under his breath on the stand is the same person that missed 32K text messages on sandra birchmore's phone.
Wow, so when she was told what she was being charged with, she was ok with manslaughter until she found out there's no bond. Then she states john was beat up by Brian and Colin . How would she even know that unless she is part of the conspiracy
I think what this case has tought me is that people jump to conclusions and are 🐑🐑🐑 we have the power as the people to be kind and considerate in every aspect of our lives. I'm grateful for our justice ⚖️ system, but this is an embarrassment.
Complete embarrassment. She didn't steal a candy bar? A man is DEAD. Did she mean to hit him / scare him ? Yes. Did she mean to kill him? No. She didn't mean to kill him, but that doesn't change the fact she did.
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@@MValleysMostWanted91yes! I get wanting to feel bad for her but that doesn’t change the fact that she committed murder. None of the silly defense distractions prove she did not commit murder. She absolutely did.
@@sarasmilesco8551 Wrong! The defense doesn't have to prove anything! The burden of proof falls entirely on the prosecution! And so far, they have not done that!
She is having so much fun, super star Karen , don't care about her dead boyfriend and all the autopsy images shown in Court, and his poor nephew and niece who are now double orphans . As a good psycho narcissist,she love all the attention she is given,and how some idiots think she is innocent, she smiles, she dress peachy, and wear soft but elegant make up and suits to go to Court. Even though, she said " I hit him. I hit him " , and ran away in her comfy SUV to let him froze on the street. We all heard her angry audios towards him, because he was saying he was sick and tired of her . The mask fell off.
So well said! I absolutely agree with you. 💯 Her smiling and smirks in court are so disrespectful to JO family. Very big ego she has. Probably just really pissed her off that he wanted out
don't forget the sex text messages Karen has sent to Higgins...& dont forget she met Higgins in person behind John's back...sounds like another Amber Turd.......
A big piece of evidence to me is the phone GPS location showing the phone never went inside. Unless the phone tech guy falsified the software to manipulate the data then how do u argue that?
@@alpharealmsportspro Of course they did not. The fit bit data indicated that O Keefe was ascending and descending stairs from 12:21 to 12:24 but O Keefe's I-phone, a far more reliable device, demonstrated that O Keefe did not even arrive at 34 Fairview until 12:24. How could he have been going up and downstairs at 12:21 when he hadn't even arrived yet. More evidence. O Keefe and Read did not leave the Waterfall bar until 12:11/12:12 and the prosecution introduced a video of Read diving through Canton at 12:17, still several minutes from 34 Fairview. How could O Keefe have been going up and down stairs at 12:21 given this evidence, Still more evidence. Officer Guarino testified that O Keefe's I-phone demonstrated that O Keefe never entered into 34 Fairview AT ALL that night. Finally, Guarino demonstrated via O Keefe's I-Phone that O Keefe and Read were driving on Crestwood Ave at 12:21. The obvious inference is that the fit bit mistook O Keefe travelling in Read's car for ascending and descending stairs.
There is more than enough evidence to convict Karen! Her SUV computer alone told exactly what she did on the early morning of January 29!! the fact that he had broken pieces of her tail light embedded in his clothing, the fact that his cuts were not caused from an animal or a dog, there was no DNA found in his cuts,. She was completely drunk and full of rage because she suspected John cheating on her!! I am steadily, hoping for the maximum stance against this woman, for John’s family and for John O’Keefe!! Good luck in prison Karen
bias Bev assisting the CW with inserting objections, also where they did not object on their own accord … and asking herself questions to witnesses in aid of the CW…
Oh please. The Judge has bent over backwards for the defense. She knows this will be appealed if there’s a guilty verdict and a Superior court will scrutinize her actions.
Agree with the Flying Dutchman 100%. Never in my life have I seen a judge assist the prosecution. The judge is a joke as is the CW. Surprised the grand jury code to indict. Guess everyone was lying there which is why so many CW witnesses can’t remember now. Selective amnesia!!!
SO.... I thought the prosecution was going to present evidence why the charge was bought from manslaughter to murder!!!???? People were saying it would be the car data...which was all lost?? Where is the evidence to charge for murder?
We need an explanation of her actions that night and the things she said! She comes across as being very snarky and arrogant and so far the defense is just trying to make everyone else look bad instead of explaining her actions. Making them look bad doesn’t make her not guilty of hitting him.
It makes sense when you learn that Karen Read works for an intelligence-agency and has dual citizenship in Israel. Her intelligence agency is running this circus. Now why was an intelligence agency infiltrating the O'Keefe house and the community of Canton? Why are they so desperate to control the Canton PD, the MSP, and the Norfolk County DA office? Residents of MA should make sure they stop them and their evil agenda
I’m not sure if KR hit JO or not but I am 100% sure that the MSP botched this case. Proctor is a terrible detective and if I was putting money down I would say he planted evidence in a lot of cases. He just got caught this time because he planted evidence in a case where the defendant could afford a top notch attorney.
What evidence do u see that there was any evidence planted? Cannot speculate! Who in their right mind would allegedly beat a cop who they invited to their home & then leavev him on the front of his lawn ? Ridiculous theory! Follow the evidence not the speculative framing of others!!
@@ritaeichler2066 I said I don’t know if KR is guilty or not. It is possible that she hit him. But too many people have testified that the taillight was cracked and missing a small piece, including an officer, for that to not be the case.
@@nathanielgreer2764 that is not correct . Pcs of her tailight recovered from crime scene matched up to fitting them up to the tailight. Jen & carrie describes pcs broken as karen showed it to them. Johns DNA & shattered glass on her back bumper & his hair is overwhelming evidence to solidify her statement to multiple ppl . She hit him but i dont think she realized how fatal it was leaving him down in the snow blizzard.
@@ritaeichler2066 Jen McCabe initial said the taillight was cracked. Officer Nick Barros said it was cracked with a piece missing. Of corse the taillight matches. Proctor broke it the rest of the way and planted it. He probably thought she was guilty and that she would breakdown when confronted with this “evidence”. Instead she lawyered up and now he is stuck.
@@nathanielgreer2764FYI had a car wreck in front of my house 12/9/23. Still having new pieces of tail light showing up that did not show up before in 6/24. Can you help me find out who is planting them? Obviously they must be planted, right. It is inconceivable that some things show up later.
I think she is guilty, but will be acquitted due to the overall incompetence of LE in this case. I feel horrible for the family and the McAlberts will never live a normal life. It is really sad that one person has caused so much pain. Reorphaned orphans to top it off. I hope that they will be okay.
She's guilty but the prosecuter did the worst job ever. The defense was a tiger because he was trying to earn his million dollar fee (she's rich) Defense did everything to muddy this up to look like a cover up, but his hair and dna on the broken tail light did it for me. I hope "duck lips" go's to prison.
@caronhill3541 You honestly can not think she is guilty…Between the butt dials, getting rid of phones, rehoming dog, redoing the basement, selling the house..not to mention the autopsy photos. This case should never have gone to trial.
@@HeadNtheCloudswould you mind saying a bit more about why you feel that way? I’m just catching up on this trial and it’s so much conflicting info my heads spinning 😵💫
This case has so much confusion in it, most of it brought upon by the prosecution.. a very reasonable doubt is prevalent with very many facts. If I were the defense, I would rest my case. They don't have to prove anything.. the prosecution has been their best witness 😊 Why clutter it up anymore with more testimony. Bring it all together in the closing ⚡
I think they have just 2 people to bring up on Monday and that’s it, making a total of 4 people for the defense…..even though they could bring up like 30 more….but they def don’t need it!
The relevant evidence clearly proves that Karen Read ran over John O'Keefe then chose to leave him incapacitated on the ground with a fractured skull to freeze to death alone. The rest is a circus to distract attention away from the relevant evidence
I wouldn’t rest my case if I were the defense because it’s pretty obvious they’ve proven beyond a reasonable doubt that KR did not hit JO with her car, however, it’s important to put the light back onto the Alberts and MCCabes as being the true suspects who did that to JO. They are trying to seek Justice all at the same time. It’s brilliant!
@@Journey007a Facts q are best brought up with closing arguments. The deceit from the prosecution's witnesses, is still fresh in the jury's mind.. Hammer at home on the closing arguments. That's when defense is usually make their best points ⚡
Everyone knows she but hit him!! Why would she yell did I I hit him? Setting her self up for it just being an accident!!! How did her tail lite get broken???? I think she backed into him twice! The second time he held his arm up and received those injuries to his arm from the jagged edges from the taillight! Jackson’s job is just to muddy the waters!! Not one piece of evidence that anything happened inside the house!
I agree! She did it, she said it, Yannetti said it before the charges were upped. It's sickening how many people seem to not pay attention to the real evidence.
@@shamina1908people receive evidence and testimony differently based on personal experience. Also, just because someone isn't on your side doesn't mean they aren't paying attention to the evidence. ❤
She’s already admitted she did it she told the police she did it the state police that’s admitting guilt now she’s paying for a high powered lawyer to get her off
@@howardstork3054 When did she admit to killing him and why wasn't she arrested on the spot? All i've heard is hearsay! Get your facts straight please!
@@howardstork3054 that’s right she even told David Yannetti when she first hired him but once they upped the charges to second-degree, here came AJ with his stupid frame job story. She even told her dad ,they should’ve let that interview come in. There is evidence, but a lot of it couldn’t come into the trial. She’s disgusting , cares abt no one but herself
The CW has no case if they can't prove that the car hit him. - it's the alleged murder weapon! Trooper Paul failed to prove that. KR may or may not have hit him. But the police were poor in their investigative tactics and behaviour ( Proctor) That matters because there was potential bias on his part. The amount of hatred towards her is not understandable it didn't look like he knew her personally or knew her well enough to have spoken such vile things about her. She will walk and if you believe she did it you must blame the troopers for a weak investigation and the CW for overcharging her .
@@ritaeichler2066 no. They will follow the evidence. The state have not proven beyond a reasonable doubt that she hit him internationally. At best all they have done is raised the possibility of an accidental hit.
Dr. Russel is a failed distraction from the fact that there was no dog DNA on okeefe. However, there was his DNA on karens cars back bumper & his hair on backside where she side swapped him😮! DNA doesnt lie
She got dragged out of a retirement home. She wants her 5 mins of fame. Read about the case and wanted in. Has no idea about the evidence. Huge fail from the defence and hopefully it costs them.
So we are to believe that all those witnesses suddenly decided to change their stories shortly before trial to say that they heard karen screaming that she hit him and they didn't bother to mention that shortly after it supposedly happened when it would have been more memorable because if so I'm not buying what's being sold
Let's picture the conspiracy theory. Keefe enters house, they take him to the basement, they beat him and then what?! Being police officers they throw him in front of the house? Genius! How did they know that they could blame her ? They didn't know that night that she had crash her cars tail light, nor that she had backed her car in reverse etc. It doesn't fit. Despite all the shady circumstances, it doesn't fit. If it doesn't fit you must convict.
@@junediston9068I agree until JM found out the broken taillight and started to put a timeline together to fit their “new narrative”. It could have beem blamed on Lucky if Karen didn’t break her taillight. Let’s not forget that the CW said this hit and run only involved two people (Karen & John). But there was blood dna of three males on John clothing. One being John’s. Who are the other two males?
The defense doesn't have to prove a conspiracy . The Commonwealth has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this could not have happened any other way then how they say. They already contradicted themselves. In opening Lally said it happened at 12:45 , Commonwealth's expert said she was back at John's by 12:36. People coming and going during 12:15 and 1:30 and NOT one person saw a body even though it wasn't snowing that hard at that point. Everything Proctor touched is suspect and the ME basically said his injuries are not really consistent with a pedestrian strike by a vehicle. There is a mountain of reasonable doubt.
Isn't it weird that everyone there looked out the window when they pulled up, and also everyone looked out the window when Karen's car had "moved up" yet not one person looked out the window when she left and noticed the body in the front yard
She’s guilty. She starts calling his phone to scream at him less than 30 minutes after dropping him at the party. She’s got Borderline Personality Disorder for sure. She’s just lucky that the troopers cocked it up,
regarding the injuries to JOK’s arm - did they ever check whether Cloe the dog had some K-9 attack training (backyard or official)? the marks on JOK’s arm look a lot like the type of bites that such dogs are trained to execute on the dog trainer’s (playing the bad guy) protected forearm - that would also explain why no other parts of his body show any bite/scratch marks/injuries…
No not failed police dog. Tiresome rumor. K-9s are trained to bite and hold. Untrained pet dogs will simply jump and grab, typically not hard enough to gain purchase thus the lines tearing skin as the resistance of victim attempting to pull away.
Yep.......and we are supposed to believe those linea/parallel abrasions were nothing but some kind of scratches induced by the taillight of an SUV ......surrre
@@ficalli4743 That's not how untrained dogs typically bite. It might sound logical but that is from people who really don't know.Typically the attack from top. Both sets can be seen on JO elbow. 2 punctures at bottom (lower jaw) upper scrapes from top not securing latch.
All the response, call, texting n asking "is he here, is he there", show that she didn't hit him. Cause she's thinks he's out there cheating n flirting. EVERY 1 WAS DRUNK. THE ALBERTS R 2 SHADY.
Being of sound mind and logic . . . I cannot find Karen Read guilty of murder with moral certainty. The reasonable doubt is too significant to overcome, and there can be no other conclusion except 100% innocent!
Remember this all happened 2 years ago. You can't expect time to stand still for all involved - they fixed up and sold a house and rehomed a dog, that is still available to be tested by the way...
i have said really awful things to a boyfriend when drinking and arguing- most women have been guilty of that- but that doesnt mean we would kill the guy
i just can't believe that there are still some people on the fence, well let me reiterate, a man cannot be hit by a SUV at 24mph, spin, then fly 30 yards on to the front yard of a police officers house who is having a party, the party guests leave and they do not see that very same man lying dead on the lawn. At the same time the man that was fatally hit with the suv and is launched 30 yards has no injuries whatsoever below his neck apart from what looks like scratches and animal bite marks on one arm.... this defies logic and any form of reasoning. If you even believe one bit of this garbage, you need to take a long look at yourself in the mirror and reevaluate your life, i'm sorry
Of course he can be hit, thrown upward, them gravity pulls him back down where is dragged u det the Cop Killer Karen Read's vehicle. The 30 steis recorded in John's health data on his phone between 12 31 and 12 32 am orove that John was dragged. John's GPS location coordinates never move beyond the flagpole area.
I just find Reed’s judgment and language is deplorable. I believe she was drunk and hit him causing a head injury and skull fractures. She should have saved his family grief and admitted guilt. When you lose control you lose. Officer John is the victim. All the house guests are not wrong. There are no steps going into the house- guilty of vehicular homicide related to ETOH.
She is guilty and she has harmed a lot of people trying to get out of this. Hopefully, the jury can see through all the lies the defence has put out there.
So what is all these “ Karen killed him with her vehicle “ saying now after today’s testimony of these experts that are the worlds best experts in this field ? Do you still think trooper proctor and trooper Paul’s story about “STUFF” is the real story ? Please 🙏 let me know what you’re basing your opinion about on? So happy you’re not on a jury.
I truly feel most for John and his family. The way everything was handled is not acceptable, and I truly don't believe we will ever know the truth regardless of the verdict.
00:00 Karen Read: Compelling Evidence
00:27 The Broken Tail Light
01:34 John O'Keefe's Hair
06:28 Eyewitness Testimony
17:31 Failing Relationship
19:57 "I Hit Him!"
27:36 Key Evidence for the Defense
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It’s funny to me that people are shocked by the way cops talk privately (he assumed) about perps they arrest who appear obviously guilty to them.
She backed into Johns car, 42 unaccounted minutes. Glass and, hair can be planted. I hit him was not reported at first. Only later. How long to die in cold at 2 :27
@@anitafowler622you bombed out on all points.
Compelling evidence?! Eh? Where?
Will Court TV telecast the Proctor / Albert trial ??? lol
“They’ve gone through everything but my sock drawer, but they won’t go through Brian Albert’s front door"!
- Karen Read
I really wish someone would come clean and tell us the truth. This entire trial is nothing but smoke and mirrors.
Me too ~ amazing that no one has cracked. Yet.
I just hope once she's exonerated, a full proper investigation happens
@@Penny_LaineKaren Read hasn’t cracked yet because she’s unwilling to take accountability for her actions. The people being blamed for a cover up haven’t cracked yet because there is nothing for them to admit to. There isn’t a chance in hell that someone involved in the “cover up” wouldn’t have cracked by now if there was a coverup. Especially, when the FBI got involved. Someone would have flipped to save their own ass. The FBI also found no evidence of a conspiracy.
Karen, has tried to drag down anyone and anything she can with her. Her ludicrous behavior, has got us to this point. She should be ashamed of herself, the fact that ANYONE is backing her? Shows how poor society has become. You guys down there in Norfolk County should come live in reality in Essex County. You people have made Massacre look very bad.
@@MValleysMostWanted91 the truth has dragged everyone down!
@@MValleysMostWanted91 Do you know her personaly ?
She may or may not be guilty... but there were so many errors and poor judgement in processing the evidence in this case. There is so much DOUBT surrounding the entire investigation.
Not to mention missing & destroyed evidence, conflicts of interest from the judge to the investigators & a federal investigation. It just muddies the water too much to get the conviction the CW wants!
I agree with you. Officer O'Keefe and his family will never get justice. 😢
💯 That police department have completely messed it up for one of their fellow officers. Shame on them.
Karen Read's vehicle data, her own words, her 3 calls to her parents in the middle of the night, and the physical evidence irrefutably proves that Karen Read ran over John O'Keefe with her SUV then chose to leave him incapacitated on the ground with a fractured skull to freeze to death alone. Also, the light color vehicle that Lucky the plow driver saw was John O'Keefe's SUV driven by Karen Read beck to her crime scene. This is the Ring camera footage Karen Read was so desperate to delete that she insisted on going inside John's house after she left the hospital although she never bothered to speak to John's children
She is factually innocent! Omg!
If I were ever in an emergency situation in Canton, Ma. I NEVER call Canton 1st responders. They can’t be trusted. Especially the ones who grew up in Canton.
Your agenda to install Jeffrey Epstein pedophile protectors and other criminal networks of your dual citizen tribe into local police and DA offices will fail
ESPECIALLY if you’re a woman… I’m never going to MA after this!!
Anyone worried how much these cops have been doing drunk driving??? Like HOW are they all not fired?!?
I am! They should all be charged with DWI after admittedly drinking and driving on the stand!
They believe they're above the law
Any of us would be arrested for sure. Admitting it on the stand is the highest level of admission in my opinion.
OMG … it’s unbelievable how much alcohol everyone consumed that night. IMO they were ALL to drunk to remember what really happened.
Police, Judges drink and drive ! We had a Judge who was the Strictest on people driving while drunk and ended up getting fired himself for the same crime! I served a few police officers that drink and drive also! First ones to pull you over just because I was a Bartender! They could Never get me because I Don’t Drink and Drive!
Sooo she was going backwards at 24mph, slammed into him, they were all peeking out the windows at different times and able to see the vehicle, yet no one heard or saw the actual incident? 🤔 Yeah.. sounds legit 🙄 shes also the crazy girlfriend but they invited them to their home after the bar and no one saw or heard them fighting that night while they were out. Im just so tired of this case already. Show some absolute evidence or drop it. This is getting ridiculous.
Karen Read works for an intelligence agency and has professional driver training
@@bethmccrae2714 get outta here!
@@bethmccrae2714and….. she somehow knows how to hit a person in the arm without causing bruises or broken bones and hit him hard enough to kill him……. This is what your saying? Try to imagine this visually and please explain to me what you believe happened. As all the experts cant do it from the prosecution or defence side experts. Except trooper Paul and apparently you as well. Maybe you can explain it better then the trooper as he showed he has no idea 🤷♂️ how its possible. 😂😂😂😂
Seeing that lady google how long it takes to die in the cold at 2:45 am, getting rid of the dog, and all these other "coincidences " is a hell of a lot more evidence than they have on Karen, yet shes the one on trial. This whole thing is a joke. They messed this investigation up from the start! Should have dug deeper on everyone at the property before they made a judgment. I have a feeling its going to be a mistrial and we are going to be going over this circus of a case forever. 😒
@@Joslinemk171 how about all those butt dials and delete calls ? The sally port video, the visible huge piece on the car from the ring video. The criminals are those who botched the investigation. How can the troopers not go to the crime scene after seeing John's body with red eyes and even telling the medical examiner that it was from a physical altercation?
The evidence shows that the commonwealth doesn’t have a strong case.
Nope...they have alot of evidence against her
@@angelbaybi997 and NONE of what they presented in court doesn’t prove she’s guilty beyond a reasonable doubt either
Of course they didn’t swab OJO’s wounds, that would be too practical!!
What an incompetent and compromised investigation conducted by deceitful MSP with blood on their hands.
Also, I thought Dr. Russell was very reliable, qualified and credible since the first day she testified. IMO.
Justice for KR and OJO
Absurd
The evidence shows Karen read is guilty.
I have never heard so many gathered looking so many times out of a window, as it was supposed to be an afterparty. They were all under influence of alcohol, and to me , all these people looking out a window within minutes SMELLS badly - for them
Maybe because they noticed O’Keefe travelled to the house with them but hadn’t entered the house and wasn’t responding to his phone. I’d be looking out the window too.
@@jakestroll6518 They were all too drunk to care.
The looking outside at the car makes sense to me. Someone came in the house & said someone’s car was outside. They had been expecting John, knew he was having trouble finding the place, so of course they’re going to look outside.
Especially once they’ve seen the car was indeed there and several minutes pass but still they didn’t come inside.
@@brandybiscoff9685 no, THEY didn't come in.... And tell me HOW DO ANYONE KNOW, HE/SHE OR BOTH WASN'T INSIDE ? The house wasn't searched... It smells of rotten fish.
❤exactly…. How many people looking out the window 🤷🏻♀️
The "compelling" witnesses for prosecution are more compelling towards KR'S innocence because they were all sketchy and more compelling that they framed KR and committed perjury inspite of trying to "esplain".
The Massachusetts Governor said this is a disgrace.
She’s embarrassed and fed up.
🤣she acting!
...nothing will get done
but these cops still have their job...
She is guilty. She might not remember after 9 vodka drinks and it might not have been intentional but she hit him.
Watch Alberts testimony then get back to me!.....no broken bones, never went outside to check on him, dog bites on him, gets rid of the dog, digs up his basement, gets rid of cell phone, retires from the force the shortly after!.....C'mon, total cover up!
@@RoadGoose69 Can you point me to another 15+ person conspiracy between private citizens and law enforcement to frame an innocent person for murder? I could not find a single one. This would be the first time that it ever happened. 37 people die every day from drunk driving fatalities EVERY day
how can she be guilty, when the FBI expert testified, that JO was not killed by a car........
100%. The incredible degree of denial around this case is disgusting. Watch his brother's interview.
@sandrabecht613 These are not facts. Educate yourself. So called experts make errors in court ALL THE TIME.
Sorry..injuries do not match up..Something happened to him inside or outside that home..
I agree. Trooper Paul 🤯🤷♀️
I believe he was getting attack by their dog and he may have struck their dog to stop and that pissed their son off -the son’s healing knuckles prove punches thrown.
@@PH_1964 he definitely had a hand in covering what happened to John up 💯
@@123marlanamarsthe photo of Colin Albert’s damaged knuckles was taken over a month after John’s passing. There are photos of him in between the death of John and the healing knuckles photo that show no damage to his knuckles.
@@123marlanamars He was definitely rattled, trying to stick to the narrative. The witness 'Tractor Pooper' 😱 Also, getting rid of phones, dog, staying inside the house whilst everyone's at the scene, refurbing the floor and poor collection of evidence, inside, outside and on the body 🤔🤥
The “I hit him” statements by multiple witnesses were not the same from the grand jury to the actual current trial.
KR and her attorneys have changed their stories a half dozen times....bite/no bite is just the latest...they're no longer claiming a bite but a SCRATCH!! Nicely transitioning from a bite to a bite/scratch to now just a scratch. Garbage,
Law enforcement LIED UNDER OATH. Multiple did in fact. They got rid of phones, dogs and the house after basement remodeling. Many many things show true corruption and perjury.
Oh Jen's later claimed that Karen was saying I hit him I hit him has been shown to be an absolute fabrication
No testimony is ever exactly the same over time . Bjg deal
@@bethpatriots7290 Jen has shown she has not been consistent on any of her testimony by statements changed, time frames changed, butt dials, deleted texts, etc. Sorry you can’t see that but she did herself no favors getting up on the stand and opening her mouth. Just hope the feds are looking into her life too!
From all the testimony from beginning to this point nothing has been proven that Officer Okeefe was hit by a vehicle. Even the ME was unable to determine. Cannot wait for the defenses next experts giving thorough true accident reconstruction. The defense having the plow driver Lucky stating he went past the home several times and not seeing Officer Okeefes body between the hours he worked up and down street. The dog bite specialist not only co wrote 1 but wrote two peer reviewed papers on the subject of dog bites. Was a previous ER Doctor as well as having worked for law enforcement for 7 years and the criminal Justice system for years before retirement. More education attained then multiple news reporters together who are reporting and making their uneducated opinions on the subject.
Absurd. Karen Read's vehicle itself recorded a pedestrian strike and all evidence proves she ran over John O'Keefe
The defense accident reconstruction "experts" never even looked at the vehicle data that prove that Karen Read struck John O'Keefe, so their conclusion that they did not see evidence is meaningless. Of course they did not see what they failed to even look at. And the other "expert" on injury plays games with saying he saw no evidence that John's head struck the vehicle, but Karen Read striking John 's body and causing him to hit his head on the frozen ground is still caused by Karen Read and her vehicle
.....not guilty(Cover up or not, way too much reasonable doubt)
A reasonable person!
She is so guilty she rss as n right up to his body where she hit and left him !!!!
@2TurntKarenWhy would BA have 100+ texts to Karen? He acted like he barely knew she existed🤷♀️
So is it my understanding that Brian Higgins was partying and drinking, but then went back to the police station to move vehicles around?????
That’s what he said on stand 🤷♀️
@@123marlanamarsand he said that was “administrative tasks” lol ok.
Strange town...
Sure! Thats just another thing we are all supposed to find entirely reasonable!! 😂
Has nothing to do with Karen read murdering John.
The Alberts n Higgins showed O'Keefe the texting with Karen. He fought, got jump by family. EVERY 1 WAS DRUNK. Albert didn't let his house get checked. Got rid of dog. Demolish basemet. Slept through it. SMH
Alberts got a new basement & sold their home & gave chloe away. SAYS alot also
And don't forget all the butt dials which I don't believe happened, then Brian Albert and Brian Higgins gets rid of their phones, very shady.
WORD!
Doesnt prove anything!!
@@ritaeichler2066proves reasonable doubt.
@@jatteam8615 cant be reasonable doubt as DNA on her car proves what happened
Trooper Paul is such a clown. His answers were as if he was a 12yo child trying to recite his little speech for class. No shot the jury takes him seriously.
This case is not too be laughed at …. But I was literally crying with laughter at trooper Paul’s testimony 😂@clownbaby
Trooper Paul collected the correct data from the vehicle and currently identified the precise point in time that Karen Read struck John O'Keefe and that data is unrefuted. He was just a poor witness who needs training in public speaking and how to testify. But his data is correct
Trooper Paul and Lally are Proctor Puppets!
@@bethpatriots7290 No.
Everyone did it but karen give me a break
We all know the Police dropped that plastic off, after removing it from the taillight.
How do you know that? There is no proof.
Further, neither the defence or dad's explanation makes sense given the injuries.
I had a car wreck out here on 12/9/23.Still have pieces of the tail light showing up in my driveway from that day that have not been there before. I seriously doubt someone is planting them.
@@Friendofstfrank the fact that the police had the vehicle for 2 hours after impounding it and then finding the tail light pieces after. Then got caught misinformation on the reports to make it look like they found the tail light pieces 1st, then went to impound the vehicle. Come on bro. Either this is a cover up or they have some REAL clowns 🤡 in charge down there. I personally believe its a combination of both factors and Proctor and Paul will both be having very different duties very soon.
Impossible. The pieces of taillight from Karen Read's vehicle and John's shoe were found underneath undisturbed snow, while Karen Read's vehicle was being towed . It was not possible for those pieces to have been planted
She is guilty...first I thought it may be an accident..but..after I heard her foul rage on the phone to John all night long after the incident. She knew that she hit him and , was trying to find out if he was fine. When she backed up the SUV at 24 miles John saw it and shielded himself by raising his arm and That cut his arm when the taillight broke on impact. There must have been a sour note between them. Trooper Proctor had a foul mouth..but Karen mouth is equally foul.
@@bethpatriots7290 actually the time they noted when the vehicle was towed was incorrect. They towed the vehicle over an hour earlier that previously stated.
Maybe you should stay up to date on the case before you do an hr presentation. All 3 of the defence witnesses were allowed in.
Court tv should not be airing anything and acting as if they know what’s happening, every day they miss the most basic info.
All three? Theres Lucky... Who else ?
I was saying the same thing! These people are ridiculous
These presenters are terrible! An insult to journalism
I agree. Especially the female presenter!.
Stuttering baffoons.
Calm down karen
They could be Bev's family😂
They are ridiculous
I watched the live today. The trooper who captured the cell data and the ME were the best witnesses the CW have presented in the last 8 weeks.
Everybody else has been evasive, dishonest and in some cases like Trooper Paul inexperienced, ill qualified and in over their heads.
This is all just my opinion. I didn’t know anything about this case until the live streams started here and in Emily D Baker.
I’m watching from the UK as a couch juror and at this stage I am convinced KR did not kill Officer O’Keefe. But I do believe he encountered some blunt force trauma to his head, he was bitten by a large animal and he fell to the ground. He was so intoxicated that couldn’t get up and was left to die in the cold.
I just wish the O’Keefe family could get definite answers so they can start their healing.
The O'Keefe family knows that Karen Read killed John O'Keefe
Also a couch juror here in az, USA and I wonder if the dog did the whole thing and they covered it up just because they thought they could. Like maybe the dog was surprised at someone else coming in the house, grabs JO’s arm they both struggle and JO slips falls and hits his head in the struggle. I get that he also had a wound on his upper eye could have been a very violent attack.
Edit to add: as a dog groomer alone I’ve seen the bites that groomers receive from a dog that is less than pleased to be there. No expert clearly but I’ve probably seen more dog bites than most and this looks like it was A very violent attack.
Couch juror num 3 watching from Cork City, Ireland 🇮🇪😂I agree with ye,, im thinking John started arguing with someone in the house,, another 1 or 2 " jumped on" and the dog attacked in the frenzy of the fighting that was going on and all had to be covered up... The fact that he suffered blunt force trauma,, dog bites etc was definitely proven I think too
Trooper Paul is not an expert in anything 🤷🏻♀️
not true, I know he is an expert at identifying the tastiest flavors in a crayon box
@@brandonmec32 🤣🤣🤣🤣 true
oh no according to lally hes a very important witness trooper paul perfect expert jury were laughing apt then u gotta think lally said karens car outside fair view 12.45 the phone guy says 12.40 karens phone connects wi johns wifi wonder if the jury has noticed.
@@mandy2117 As far as Lally goes. I just need to know how he even passed the bar?
Mr is an excellent liar you missed that part
She is so guilty.
All her smiling in court is so disrespectful to the okeefe family
💯 very disrespectful and makes me think she is not a good person. Her boyfriend is dead and his grieving family is right there and she's smiling . Ugh!
And there is no emotion from her. Strange...
Not one tear when she saw the picture of his body during the ME’s testimony while John’s brother looked distressed and couldn’t look .
I agree I don't trust that woman at ALL!
they are meatheads and part of the corrupt Canton bubble. Look at the brother. They would like to think the McAlberts are innocent
karen is.guilty of hitting John. ⚖️👍
Yesssss. 1000% guilty of something. Certainly contributed to his demise😮😮
Not even close!
@@RoadGoose69 Close but she will walk due to all of the inconsistencies in various testimonies. Including the drunken diva Karen.
Not enough evidence? She was obviously intoxicated, she may not have intentionally mowed him down, yet she hit him which resulted in death- Vehicular homicide - and may not reach 2nd degree murder.
@@thomasogrodnik3233 Excellent point. Hopefully the jury gets it right. Justice for John!!
This channel is losing all credibility....
How?
This trial is a joke! And the fact that everyone is pretending like this is what really happened is even worse! Lolly and proctor are both scumbagsss!
@@sfreestew8965 Probably meant the stupid fkn thumbnail they chose
@@shanebarker3131 she looks so crazy in the thumbnail… but also very attractive… maybe that’s just me
Agree100% dumb journalism
Even states own ME cannot conclude what happened to JO. If the medical examiner doesn’t know, then why are we at trial to begin with?
Conspiracy is real
It is not out of the realm of possibility for the ME to be unable to make a conclusion on manner of death but the jury can still determine homicide. It has happened before. We know the cause - blunt force trauma complicated by hypothermia. The manner, however, cannot be determined by the ME in this case.
@@DrKnowsMore Trooper Paul couldn’t explain how he ended up 10 feet past the side walk or how the phone ended up under him. What about the dog bites? I just don’t see 12 people all on board she hit him with out doubt. We’ll see.
Conspiracy ia real. Many people in authority and LE in Massachusetts are very away of it.
The jury has more information than the ME had at the time.
If this is a cover up there would have to be a ton of people involved willing to put their careers and lives on the line.
Not true, there just have to be a few people in the right positions. Like Proctor for example. Then everyone falls in line from there. If you really understand how all of this works, you would understand just how untrue your comment is.
It only takes a few.
It happens EVERYDAY
the person that couldn't find the google search of JMC, along with the deleted calls, who testified that that Johns apple health data stated he was going up steps meant he was going up the "hill" on the road, who also said K!ll me now under his breath on the stand is the same person that missed 32K text messages on sandra birchmore's phone.
With everything I have learned on this case, I believe she is 100% guilty
Wow, so when she was told what she was being charged with, she was ok with manslaughter until she found out there's no bond. Then she states john was beat up by Brian and Colin . How would she even know that unless she is part of the conspiracy
Thank you!!!
no she said it before she was charged with anything.
Anyone watching Aunty Deb parodies? The fan, sirens, Jen McCabe, Bev, "sidebahh" 🤣
Yes!! They are the best!!! 😅
The case against her AND HER words seals the deal, everything else is a distraction.
funny went from cracked light to full blown out in pieces of tail light
Yes the Dighton cop was at the Reads house before the car got towed and said it was cracked and 1 piece missing.
@@lacey8228 yes remember he did say also cracked not 44 pieces smh which is crazy why were there no pieces in his arm or hoodie ??
I think what this case has tought me is that people jump to conclusions and are 🐑🐑🐑 we have the power as the people to be kind and considerate in every aspect of our lives. I'm grateful for our justice ⚖️ system, but this is an embarrassment.
Complete embarrassment. She didn't steal a candy bar? A man is DEAD. Did she mean to hit him / scare him ? Yes. Did she mean to kill him? No. She didn't mean to kill him, but that doesn't change the fact she did.
@@MValleysMostWanted91Not true
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@@MValleysMostWanted91yes! I get wanting to feel bad for her but that doesn’t change the fact that she committed murder. None of the silly defense distractions prove she did not commit murder. She absolutely did.
@@sarasmilesco8551 Wrong! The defense doesn't have to prove anything! The burden of proof falls entirely on the prosecution! And so far, they have not done that!
Do you notice how her lawyers never say , she's Innocent, while getting interviewed.
The magic hair that stayed on the car while being driven and towed through a blizzard
😂 one of the funny moments in the prosecution´s case. These corrupt people think everyone´s stupid
She is having so much fun, super star Karen , don't care about her dead boyfriend and all the autopsy images shown in Court, and his poor nephew and niece who are now double orphans . As a good psycho narcissist,she love all the attention she is given,and how some idiots think she is innocent, she smiles, she dress peachy, and wear soft but elegant make up and suits to go to Court.
Even though, she said " I hit him. I hit him " , and ran away in her comfy SUV to let him froze on the street. We all heard her angry audios towards him, because he was saying he was sick and tired of her . The mask fell off.
Written like a bitter person relying on sensational media to inform her on a murder trial.
So well said! I absolutely agree with you. 💯
Her smiling and smirks in court are so disrespectful to JO family. Very big ego she has. Probably just really pissed her off that he wanted out
use your brain. how can she be guilty, when the FBI expert testified, that JO was not killed by a car........??
don't forget the sex text messages Karen has sent to Higgins...& dont forget she met Higgins in person behind John's back...sounds like another Amber Turd.......
A big piece of evidence to me is the phone GPS location showing the phone never went inside. Unless the phone tech guy falsified the software to manipulate the data then how do u argue that?
Agreed. That was huge.
Did you watch the trial?
@@DonnaLynch-ks7jz how would I know that if I didn't watch the trial duhhhh
They already established on the apple health information that he ascended or descended stairs at the Alberts house
@@alpharealmsportspro Of course they did not. The fit bit data indicated that O Keefe was ascending and descending stairs from 12:21 to 12:24 but O Keefe's I-phone, a far more reliable device, demonstrated that O Keefe did not even arrive at 34 Fairview until 12:24. How could he have been going up and downstairs at 12:21 when he hadn't even arrived yet.
More evidence. O Keefe and Read did not leave the Waterfall bar until 12:11/12:12 and the prosecution introduced a video of Read diving through Canton at 12:17, still several minutes from 34 Fairview. How could O Keefe have been going up and down stairs at 12:21 given this evidence,
Still more evidence. Officer Guarino testified that O Keefe's I-phone demonstrated that O Keefe never entered into 34 Fairview AT ALL that night.
Finally, Guarino demonstrated via O Keefe's I-Phone that O Keefe and Read were driving on Crestwood Ave at 12:21. The obvious inference is that the fit bit mistook O Keefe travelling in Read's car for ascending and descending stairs.
She is smiling, but her boyfriend is dead ...
It's what narcissists do when they are centre of attention
tell me you've never been in a toxic relationship without telling me
It's called duper delight
She's smiling because she knows she's not guilty and finally proof is there
@mody03318 She has been smiling from day one in court. No remorse or compassion shown for John's death!😮😮😢😢
There is more than enough evidence to convict Karen!
Her SUV computer alone told exactly what she did on the early morning of January 29!! the fact that he had broken pieces of her tail light embedded in his clothing, the fact that his cuts were not caused from an animal or a dog, there was no DNA found in his cuts,. She was completely drunk and full of rage because she suspected John cheating on her!! I am steadily, hoping for the maximum stance against this woman, for John’s family and for John O’Keefe!! Good luck in prison Karen
how did that work out???
Amen to that sir. Too many cases that needed Defensie Attorneys like this
bias Bev assisting the CW with inserting objections, also where they did not object on their own accord … and asking herself questions to witnesses in aid of the CW…
Oh please. The Judge has bent over backwards for the defense. She knows this will be appealed if there’s a guilty verdict and a Superior court will scrutinize her actions.
I give Bev the benefit of the doubt-maybe only because I’ve seen Delphi & YSL.
Agree with the Flying Dutchman 100%. Never in my life have I seen a judge assist the prosecution. The judge is a joke as is the CW. Surprised the grand jury code to indict. Guess everyone was lying there which is why so many CW witnesses can’t remember now. Selective amnesia!!!
Chose to indict.
SO.... I thought the prosecution was going to present evidence why the charge was bought from manslaughter to murder!!!???? People were saying it would be the car data...which was all lost?? Where is the evidence to charge for murder?
I think if Karen did hit john it was a accident but im still not convinced this did not happen in the house & all that taillight pieces where set up
Defintely set up!
KAREN READ 💯 % GUILTY. JUSTICE FOR JOHN O’KEEFE & HIS FAMILY.
@@rominahorn427 Isn't everyone here the same?
@@rominahorn427 But aren't you evaluating all of this evidence from your couch?
We need an explanation of her actions that night and the things she said! She comes across as being very snarky and arrogant and so far the defense is just trying to make everyone else look bad instead of explaining her actions. Making them look bad doesn’t make her not guilty of hitting him.
It seems she’s received a lot more attention than the man who lost his life. 😢
0 dog dna.
0 evidence of a cover up.
0 evidence JO ever went in that house.
I dont understand the support for a woman who did something so heinous.
It makes sense when you learn that Karen Read works for an intelligence-agency and has dual citizenship in Israel. Her intelligence agency is running this circus. Now why was an intelligence agency infiltrating the O'Keefe house and the community of Canton? Why are they so desperate to control the Canton PD, the MSP, and the Norfolk County DA office? Residents of MA should make sure they stop them and their evil agenda
Because you haven't watched the trial, clearly.
I’m not sure if KR hit JO or not but I am 100% sure that the MSP botched this case. Proctor is a terrible detective and if I was putting money down I would say he planted evidence in a lot of cases. He just got caught this time because he planted evidence in a case where the defendant could afford a top notch attorney.
What evidence do u see that there was any evidence planted? Cannot speculate! Who in their right mind would allegedly beat a cop who they invited to their home & then leavev him on the front of his lawn ? Ridiculous theory! Follow the evidence not the speculative framing of others!!
@@ritaeichler2066 I said I don’t know if KR is guilty or not. It is possible that she hit him. But too many people have testified that the taillight was cracked and missing a small piece, including an officer, for that to not be the case.
@@nathanielgreer2764 that is not correct . Pcs of her tailight recovered from crime scene matched up to fitting them up to the tailight. Jen & carrie describes pcs broken as karen showed it to them. Johns DNA & shattered glass on her back bumper & his hair is overwhelming evidence to solidify her statement to multiple ppl . She hit him but i dont think she realized how fatal it was leaving him down in the snow blizzard.
@@ritaeichler2066 Jen McCabe initial said the taillight was cracked. Officer Nick Barros said it was cracked with a piece missing. Of corse the taillight matches. Proctor broke it the rest of the way and planted it. He probably thought she was guilty and that she would breakdown when confronted with this “evidence”. Instead she lawyered up and now he is stuck.
@@nathanielgreer2764FYI had a car wreck in front of my house 12/9/23. Still having new pieces of tail light showing up that did not show up before in 6/24.
Can you help me find out who is planting them? Obviously they must be planted, right. It is inconceivable that some things show up later.
I think she is guilty, but will be acquitted due to the overall incompetence of LE in this case. I feel horrible for the family and the McAlberts will never live a normal life. It is really sad that one person has caused so much pain. Reorphaned orphans to top it off. I hope that they will be okay.
he can she be guilty, when the FBI expert testified, that JO was not killed by a car........??
She's guilty but the prosecuter did the worst job ever. The defense was a tiger because he was trying to earn his million dollar fee (she's rich) Defense did everything to muddy this up to look like a cover up, but his hair and dna on the broken tail light did it for me. I hope "duck lips" go's to prison.
It wouldn't be to hard to outsmart the prosecutor. 😂
@caronhill3541 You honestly can not think she is guilty…Between the butt dials, getting rid of phones, rehoming dog, redoing the basement, selling the house..not to mention the autopsy photos. This case should never have gone to trial.
Intelligent woman, but very insecure in her relationship because he was leaving her!
If I was on the jury, I would say guilty! Despite the poor behavior on the police texts, I don’t think that has any bearing on her guilt.
They were fabricating evidence as well
Oh, so you never watched a single day of this trial. 😂 Got it 👍
@@kitoleummuelotik2411 no, I have, but don’t agree . I believe they were all drunks & not very reputable citizens, but I do believe she ran him over.
@@HeadNtheCloudswould you mind saying a bit more about why you feel that way? I’m just catching up on this trial and it’s so much conflicting info my heads spinning 😵💫
They made a mistake by over charging and they did a shitty job investigating they seem like incompetent police
Oh Trooper Paul. The man who talks to crime scenes.
She clearly killed him.
Innocent.
No, guilty as charged. Silly drunk looney tune of a woman
This case has so much confusion in it, most of it brought upon by the prosecution.. a very reasonable doubt is prevalent with very many facts.
If I were the defense, I would rest my case.
They don't have to prove anything..
the prosecution has been their best witness 😊
Why clutter it up anymore with more testimony.
Bring it all together in the closing ⚡
I think they have just 2 people to bring up on Monday and that’s it, making a total of 4 people for the defense…..even though they could bring up like 30 more….but they def don’t need it!
The relevant evidence clearly proves that Karen Read ran over John O'Keefe then chose to leave him incapacitated on the ground with a fractured skull to freeze to death alone. The rest is a circus to distract attention away from the relevant evidence
I wouldn’t rest my case if I were the defense because it’s pretty obvious they’ve proven beyond a reasonable doubt that KR did not hit JO with her car, however, it’s important to put the light back onto the Alberts and MCCabes as being the true suspects who did that to JO. They are trying to seek Justice all at the same time. It’s brilliant!
@@Journey007a
Facts q are best brought up with closing arguments.
The deceit from the prosecution's witnesses, is still fresh in the jury's mind..
Hammer at home on the closing arguments. That's when defense is usually make their best points ⚡
Everyone knows she but hit him!! Why would she yell did I I hit him? Setting her self up for it just being an accident!!! How did her tail lite get broken???? I think she backed into him twice! The second time he held his arm up and received those injuries to his arm from the jagged edges from the taillight! Jackson’s job is just to muddy the waters!! Not one piece of evidence that anything happened inside the house!
I agree! She did it, she said it, Yannetti said it before the charges were upped.
It's sickening how many people seem to not pay attention to the real evidence.
@@shamina1908people receive evidence and testimony differently based on personal experience. Also, just because someone isn't on your side doesn't mean they aren't paying attention to the evidence. ❤
Wow what a gracious reply crystal cat. Thank you. Xxx
utter nonsense. he can she be guilty, when the FBI expert testified, that JO was not killed by a car........?
She’s not guilty
She’s already admitted she did it she told the police she did it the state police that’s admitting guilt now she’s paying for a high powered lawyer to get her off
@howardstork3054 she may have done it, but the question is Did the Prosecution prove their case BEYOND a reasonable doubt? If not, she is Not Guilty.
@@howardstork3054 When did she admit to killing him and why wasn't she arrested on the spot? All i've heard is hearsay! Get your facts straight please!
@@howardstork3054 that’s right she even told David Yannetti when she first hired him but once they upped the charges to second-degree, here came AJ with his stupid frame job story. She even told her dad ,they should’ve let that interview come in. There is evidence, but a lot of it couldn’t come into the trial. She’s disgusting , cares abt no one but herself
@mirahardy636 the state upped their charges when she wouldn't go along with their original charges.
The CW has no case if they can't prove that the car hit him. - it's the alleged murder weapon!
Trooper Paul failed to prove that.
KR may or may not have hit him. But the police were poor in their investigative tactics and behaviour ( Proctor) That matters because there was potential bias on his part. The amount of hatred towards her is not understandable it didn't look like he knew her personally or knew her well enough to have spoken such vile things about her.
She will walk and if you believe she did it you must blame the troopers for a weak investigation and the CW for overcharging her .
The jury is not going to fall for jacksons theatrics
I just think you might be right!
@@ritaeichler2066 no. They will follow the evidence.
The state have not proven beyond a reasonable doubt that she hit him internationally. At best all they have done is raised the possibility of an accidental hit.
Dr. Russell has viewed well over 500 dog bites. She is very qualified.
Dr. Russel is a failed distraction from the fact that there was no dog DNA on okeefe. However, there was his DNA on karens cars back bumper & his hair on backside where she side swapped him😮! DNA doesnt lie
Exactly!!! Nothimg & no one goes above science!!!
She got dragged out of a retirement home. She wants her 5 mins of fame. Read about the case and wanted in. Has no idea about the evidence. Huge fail from the defence and hopefully it costs them.
Actually, those are raccoon scratches from teeth and claws. By way of claws, a dog expert calls claws nails and has an unwritten report on one day.
No dog DNA WAS not dog bites
'She's very confident but that can backfire if she tries to outsmart the prosecutor.' 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 yup , that prosecutor is fast and furious 👍!
lol
😂 defense is on point
she says shes'so innocent but yet didn't the stand....all I can say is.....if your not guilty..take the stand....
John didn't make it into the Alberts home. Karen Read kilked him with her vehicle!
how can she be guilty, when the FBI expert testified, that JO was not killed by a car........
Intoxicated -
Vehicular homicide guilty
So we are to believe that all those witnesses suddenly decided to change their stories shortly before trial to say that they heard karen screaming that she hit him and they didn't bother to mention that shortly after it supposedly happened when it would have been more memorable because if so I'm not buying what's being sold
Let's picture the conspiracy theory. Keefe enters house, they take him to the basement, they beat him and then what?! Being police officers they throw him in front of the house? Genius! How did they know that they could blame her ? They didn't know that night that she had crash her cars tail light, nor that she had backed her car in reverse etc. It doesn't fit. Despite all the shady circumstances, it doesn't fit. If it doesn't fit you must convict.
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They were going to blame the plow driver …. Idiots 😂
@@junediston9068I agree until JM found out the broken taillight and started to put a timeline together to fit their “new narrative”. It could have beem blamed on Lucky if Karen didn’t break her taillight.
Let’s not forget that the CW said this hit and run only involved two people (Karen & John). But there was blood dna of three males on John clothing. One being John’s. Who are the other two males?
I believe the saying is , if it doesn't fit you must acquitt
The defense doesn't have to prove a conspiracy . The Commonwealth has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this could not have happened any other way then how they say. They already contradicted themselves. In opening Lally said it happened at 12:45 , Commonwealth's expert said she was back at John's by 12:36. People coming and going during 12:15 and 1:30 and NOT one person saw a body even though it wasn't snowing that hard at that point. Everything Proctor touched is suspect and the ME basically said his injuries are not really consistent with a pedestrian strike by a vehicle. There is a mountain of reasonable doubt.
Why can't the attorneys have microphones??
No matter how much they fixed that basement feds can find it or provide a real reasonable cause of death 💯 it was in that house.
She knew she hit John. Shes a liar when she says she's not guilty!
how can she can she be guilty, when the FBI expert testified, that JO was not killed by a car........?? Use your brain for a second
Finally, a report focusing on the evidence presented by the CW without the defense baseless claims!! thank you
Zero evidence against Karen Read.
@@Alextriumph1050 An absurd statement.
@@milart12 why????
@@Alextriumph1050 Followed by an absurd question.
@@milart12 Are you parrot??? Answer the question.
JUSTICE FOR JOHN
Isn't it weird that everyone there looked out the window when they pulled up, and also everyone looked out the window when Karen's car had "moved up" yet not one person looked out the window when she left and noticed the body in the front yard
They drink too much in that town & allowing the children too.
Get KR on the stand I would love to see that
No way has she got the guts to take the stand and answer questions from the CW 😂
@@TeeJayNZGuts to answer questions from.... Lally? 😂 Acting like he's Juan Martinez or something 😂🤦♀️
nobody cares what u would love to see
Nope she won’t take the stand because she is smart enough to listen to lawyers. She is innocent but there are many who r not..
She’s guilty. She starts calling his phone to scream at him less than 30 minutes after dropping him at the party. She’s got Borderline Personality Disorder for sure. She’s just lucky that the troopers cocked it up,
Innocent
Guilty
Dog bites are on his arm. The Alberts need to be in PRISON!!!!
regarding the injuries to JOK’s arm - did they ever check whether Cloe the dog had some K-9 attack training (backyard or official)? the marks on JOK’s arm look a lot like the type of bites that such dogs are trained to execute on the dog trainer’s (playing the bad guy) protected forearm - that would also explain why no other parts of his body show any bite/scratch marks/injuries…
No not failed police dog. Tiresome rumor. K-9s are trained to bite and hold. Untrained pet dogs will simply jump and grab, typically not hard enough to gain purchase thus the lines tearing skin as the resistance of victim attempting to pull away.
@@GPDogDrool where is the grabbing? Dog didn't have bottom jaw?
Yep.......and we are supposed to believe those linea/parallel abrasions were nothing but some kind of scratches induced by the taillight of an SUV ......surrre
@@ficalli4743 That's not how untrained dogs typically bite. It might sound logical but that is from people who really don't know.Typically the attack from top. Both sets can be seen on JO elbow. 2 punctures at bottom (lower jaw) upper scrapes from top not securing latch.
All the response, call, texting n asking "is he here, is he there", show that she didn't hit him. Cause she's thinks he's out there cheating n flirting. EVERY 1 WAS DRUNK. THE ALBERTS R 2 SHADY.
sometimes confusion is the best defense , I don't know much about this case but her smug smile say's Guilty all over it!
Being of sound mind and logic . . .
I cannot find Karen Read guilty of murder with moral certainty. The reasonable doubt is too significant to overcome, and there can be no other conclusion except 100% innocent!
Remember this all happened 2 years ago. You can't expect time to stand still for all involved - they fixed up and sold a house and rehomed a dog, that is still available to be tested by the way...
i have said really awful things to a boyfriend when drinking and arguing- most women have been guilty of that- but that doesnt mean we would kill the guy
But it is very incriminating when your boyfriend winds up dead the next day.
Sending love nd support to karen and her family from new zealand❤❤
i just can't believe that there are still some people on the fence, well let me reiterate, a man cannot be hit by a SUV at 24mph, spin, then fly 30 yards on to the front yard of a police officers house who is having a party, the party guests leave and they do not see that very same man lying dead on the lawn. At the same time the man that was fatally hit with the suv and is launched 30 yards has no injuries whatsoever below his neck apart from what looks like scratches and animal bite marks on one arm.... this defies logic and any form of reasoning. If you even believe one bit of this garbage, you need to take a long look at yourself in the mirror and reevaluate your life, i'm sorry
Well said agree 💯
Of course he can be hit, thrown upward, them gravity pulls him back down where is dragged u det the Cop Killer Karen Read's vehicle. The 30 steis recorded in John's health data on his phone between 12 31 and 12 32 am orove that John was dragged. John's GPS location coordinates never move beyond the flagpole area.
Jen McCabe googling hos long to die in the cold hours before John O’s body was found🤔
But but but..
@@bethmccrae2714well that’s funny because at that EXACT time her phone connected to JOs Wi-Fi lol try again she was at his home or pulling up
Thank god Julie is not presenting this segment. She is heading down the wrong path. Shame.
Trooper Proctor did it
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Probably the only thing Pooper Troctor didnt do! 😂
She is so cocky and stuck up. And she gives me the feeling that could have and also did do this crime but unintentionally.
I just find Reed’s judgment and language is deplorable. I believe she was drunk and hit him causing a head injury and skull fractures. She should have saved his family grief and admitted guilt. When you lose control you lose. Officer John is the victim. All the house guests are not wrong. There are no steps going into the house- guilty of vehicular homicide related to ETOH.
She is guilty and she has harmed a lot of people trying to get out of this. Hopefully, the jury can see through all the lies the defence has put out there.
So what is all these “ Karen killed him with her vehicle “ saying now after today’s testimony of these experts that are the worlds best experts in this field ? Do you still think trooper proctor and trooper Paul’s story about “STUFF” is the real story ? Please 🙏 let me know what you’re basing your opinion about on? So happy you’re not on a jury.
I truly feel most for John and his family. The way everything was handled is not acceptable, and I truly don't believe we will ever know the truth regardless of the verdict.
The very sad part
It could have been a coyote that tried to eat him while laying on the lawn too.
You are not going to have this many people involved with out someone talking!!