I find it odd that when the cops showed up at the party house, nobody came outside. All those red and blues and nobody was even curious? On my block, if there's any emergency responder within eyesight, nearly everyone steps out to take a look at least. If it's an immediate neighbor, people come over to make sure you're good. Those guys ignored a bunch of cop cars in their own yard? Really?
Those poor kid's have had so much loss I pray for them to be well loved and cared for everyone that's taken care of them from their parents to their uncle they've lost
Oh my gosh, this is so crushing! A wonderful man… No longer here! He was loved and so concerned about others, especially his sister’s children! How could this possibly happen?
The reason Karen Read said “I have to remember the bad times” is because anger is easier to deal with than grief. If you remember he bad times it doesn’t hurt so much. Women use this strategy all the time to lessen the pain of a breakup.
I hope this message gets to everybody I do not know the family the people please leave the family alone give them respect they don't deserve any of this God bless each and every one of them please pass this I don't know them but I lost my daughter I know the pain please respect them and leave them alone thank you just a person the nose pain😢 may God bless them🙏
All dressed in pink? Not knowing what really happened to the Police Officer. They see her as a Celebrity😂😂😂😂 I think she did it. Why would the cops want to frame her??? Her face is ARROGANCE A FAMILY MEMBER SAID, THEY ARGUED!! DRINKING@
@pennicochrane8886 what you think about the federal investigation? In which ATF agent Higgins, who is friends with the Albert's, flipped and proffered with the U.S. Attorney saying he and Brian Albert destroyed their phones and sym card, switched carriers and got new numbers?
@@pennicochrane8886 You're clearly BAISED, Have literally Zero expression to persuade Anyone here you possess discernment or rational critical thinking in matters this serious, Ts obvious the policy are witch hunting to Use legal manuvering presumptions to act in behalf of TRUTH for their, laughable attempt, waning to HANG someone for this death. So with your ineptitude basically forfeiting ANY credibility. The ole “if enough of Us say so there fore it's a foregone conclusion MUST be as WE say. Sorry, NOT happening here, TRUTH has shown the DA Intro was shameful Deficient of solid foundational cornerstone application. Literally 95% ppl replying are scratching there heads in What the HELL kind of a stumbling staggering INTRO to a murder case was this? LOL LOL. It looked like a B-Rate Oprah Winfrey soap opera comedy. This things was over as SOON as it started. 95%+ ppl vs what YOU think, HARDLY! This thing is OVER!-And a waste of time.
Alcohol and drugs have ruined society, children, families and individuals. I am South African and frankly I have always, in the past, admired Americans, unfortunately now I think most Americans are entitled, full of it, over the top and greedy. No admiration anymore. If the lady is being set up well the mechanics have been outstanding and flawless. Good luck to the children and parents, the real victims here.
After following all the evidence and witnesses in this case, along with pictures and videos that surfaced. The red flags that stand out as not normal behavior in a circumstance or event is the fact that not a single friend or coworker of Johns in the house came out to check on all the commotion and flashing lights in their own yard and you know those flashing lights were bouncing off all those front windows of that house. Yet no one checked out what was happening in their own front yard. That is NOT NORMAL behavior. BIG red flag as to why. Also the way the Alberts distanced themselves from obviously being friends with John and Karen, with too many pictures and videos proving they were all friends. Big red flag also. The Alberts invited them to come over to their house, then after the fact acted like they barely knew them. Strange and why? The biggest red flag is the responding officers who never entered the house after finding a dead body in the front yard of said house. That never happens. It would be one of the first things done after seeing John's injuries to look for a murder weapon or anything similar that could've caused his injuries. It's like they all knew ahead of time to keep the focus on Karen and her vehicle only. Anytime a dead body is found, the area or any structures nearby are searched for evidence, regardless of whether he said she said he entered or didn't enter the house. It was established by everyone John was invited their to an after party. WHY was the house and people inside not searched. WHY was only the girlfriend Karen looked at and blamed as being the only conclusion when that is only a part of the whole equation of events that night. Keeping in mind it doesn't matter what anyone has said happened. Why wasn't the whole equation investigated in the onset of John death. Why ? why? Why? This alone stinks. I'm sure Boston's Finest aren't dumb asses, so why narrow an investigation to only one scenario as the cause of death. Why not search and look at everyone from head to toe on injuries they might have had, including searching the house. What a sham!!!!!!!
This cop never goes outside knowing there is a dead cop on n his lawn, bite marks all over arm so they get rid of dog, cops deleting text messages, destroying phones, all the “BUTT” dials, deleted Google searches, not finding glass on lawn until after they investigate the bumper when they towed it to yard, a piece of hair miraculously remains on bumper after traveling through 30 miles in the snow, oh, and let’s not forget Proctor despises Karen and sends all those nasty text messages about her then deleting them…searching for her nude pictures…amazing there is no ring cam at the house or any video on that street….The list goes on and on…Not one cop friend shed a lousy tear over his death…it is a disgrace!!!!!!!
So you think every single one of those witnesses all got together and made sure their stories matched? I'm not buying that. There's only ONE person that killed that man.
I was just gonna write the same thing. Then he has John’s brother testify about it. He is horrible. He is turning a two week trial into months.!!!! Poor jury
@l-train7876 Not sure anyone has that answer. Maybe it will be discussed during trial. I think they invited anyone on the group at the waterfall. Some people opted out.
If the injuries on his arm were caused by the car, where is the blood on the car? They found a hair, but not a single drop of blood? Also, head injuries bleed profusely. Where is all the blood from the 2 inch laceration at the back of his head? Hearsay, someone said he lost 3 litres. Where is all the blood????
Exactly, just my opinion, but to me, those injuries on his right arm do NOT look as though they could have been sustained from being hit by a car. If Officer O'Keefe put his arm up to block the SUV from hitting him, would he not have more bruise-like injuries to his arm, a broken arm (allegedly being hit at a high rate of speed), rather than the scratch type marks the photos show?
They did mention a pool of blood underneath him today. The “my cousin Vinny” mentioned it. But once your heart stops, your blood flow slows or just stops so it depends on how his body was situated. The blood’s probably in the house tho, just my opinion. lol
I do to and its difficult for her because her mother-in-law and husband wants to see KR responsible for his death. Selfish and these are the very people who cry out to God for mercy. With all the evidence pointing away from KR. Paul is very angry but at the wrong person and he knows it. Shame! Shame! Shame! on you. Paul
@@ainokea911 Chill out. Karen Read is guilty. Only silly nincompoops think that she is innocent. The jury voted 9-3 to convict Read on the dui/manslaughter charge.
I think he got into a fight with a friend at the party. It went too far and he died. They carried him outside and made it look like a hit and run. Their dog even chewed at him
@@bornfree0507 OMG, hahahah, I was just thinking the same dang thing after watching some of the Wrap=Up from Court TV. That dog definitely chewed on his arm and some kind of alcohol related brawl ensued! I think you hit it on the nose.
Ya, one of their nephew's and the victim had a problem, because the nephew was a punk neighbor of the victim. I believe that was the fight and the dog attacked. Victim got hurt bad , or killed, and thrown out in the snow. Maybe the cover up is to protect the nephew.
@@bornfree0507today it occurred to me that he came in the house drunk, acting rowdy and maybe no one heard him BUT THE DOG!! The dog chews his arm up pretty bad, which maybe O’Keefe starts kicking the dog violently to get it off of him. The homeowner gets pissed, a huge fight occurs that gone into bad cover up mode. One thing that appears impossible, is that based on evidence thus far, there’s no way that lady on trial ran Mr Okeefe over.
As I watch this I kinda like to be an objective juror. I have little knowledge of any facts. I'm hearing a lot of this for the first time. Stuff like this has taken place of "Knott's Landing" and "Dynasty" . Only this is real!
That’s how I watch this as well. It’s quite easy to be objective. To be unbiased does not mean you have no opinions. I admit to myself that I have no idea what actually happened until I learn it from the trial testimony.
I mean you'd have to be pretty dumb to try off your police officer husband, at a house party where a whole bunch of other police are at the time. Im just sayin. She doesn't seem like shes that dumb to plan off-ing her husband in that situation. **Edit: boyfriend, not husband. (Coz that makes a huge difference to the whole comment. Not. )
I don’t think it’s a good idea to keep drinking when you have children sooner rather than later your child pick up this bad behavior and I think that’s what happens here.
What a filthy and dirty case. Nothing new for the scales of justice. I wonder how much money she's paid so far to the Massachusetts justice system. They took her money 💰 and now she has to fork out more money. While the real murderers are going to skate and continue you on with their lives.
Absolutely. The DA Lost the Jury in 20 minutes here. The fatal mistake he created a soap opera story and the Poor police work is overt with lots holes in their B-Rate police work to build their accusations. . The one [iece pf supposed evidence a Large rounded tail section doing the facial damage to a humans bone structure. I have had many injuries and his neck o up was beaten by smaller blows and likely a weapon NOT a ;large rind blunt tail section contact at 6-MPH.
Why do you think the prosecutor brought up the blue car? Parked on the left in the garage and the chevy traverse always parked on the right? or the shoveling?
@bettywillbrowse - maybe in a moment of panic, now sobering up and remembering that she hit him and admitting it out loud. Likely consulted a lawyer and was immediately told to shut up.
As a mother who recently lost a son, my heart is with his mother, father and brother. So hard to see his mother in tears at the beginning. The immature courtside cheerleading and ridiculous immature carryon by the 'fans, their conspiracy theories' they need to start respecting those whose son died.
Nothing more immature than the crooked cops who are trying to frame an innocent person for murder. Using tragedy to garner sympathy doesn't prove she's guilty.
Thank you! This is the first comment that I've read that actually has some sense to it. I don't buy all of their bull crap about her being set up I think the simplest explanation is that she left him and then when she realized what had happened she panicked.
Another strange thing is that when Julie Arnold [ Chris's wife, Colin's mother ] arrived at Brian Albert's house at atound 8:30 -9 ish to drip off a card abd donuts for his son's birthday, she did nit see any police, police cars, did not comment on seeing police tape nothing out of the ordinary. Where were the police ?
WTF is with these mundane questions. Paul's wife takes the stand and he starts asking her did Paul have any siblings, their kids, etc., is this absolutely necessary? to establish that we have the correct wife of the relevant Paul O'Keefe on the stand? and not some other random woman who shows up in court to take the stand who in fact is the wife of a Paul O'Keefe who has nothing to do with this case... please someone tell me do they have to establish this for the record?
I don’t like Karen, she seems fishy and I have a bad vibe about her but at the end of the day, even if she was a bad girlfriend, doesn’t mean she is a killer, hopefully the jury will get it right and justice Wii be served
Police instinctively would go out to look at a crime scene ,let alone on their own property! That alone looks suspicious,they must have been trying to get the story straight!
And the announcer just lied about what John’s sister-in-law said in reply to Karen saying that they’d probably not speak again. Her actual reply was of course we will speak. We’re friends.
Why are they witnesses? Were they there that night? I never understand why the people who should be put on the stand seem like they never are. All the people that were at the house that night should testify along with anyone who went bar hopping with them.
You don't have to be an eyewitness to be a witness. Witnesses are people that can testify as to their relationships with the defendant or the victim, and they can also testify as to the context of what was happening you don't have to be an eyewitness to be valuable to either side
Am I the only person here that thinks she did it? I don't know man Occam's razor man... I just I don't see this whole setup. I believe that there's something to it because there's a lot of people that buy into it but it just doesn't fit for me.
You sure seem it. I've been following thr story for a year and these is SO MUCH blatant corruption by the Commonwealth it never should have even made it this far, but now at least Karen will be exonerated and justice served for John.
No, there are 27 of you that are paying no attention to the federal investigation disclosures of Karen Read being the target of a murder framejob by corrupt Trooper Proctor, do keep up.
How nice of old judge bev to finally make a decision for the the jurors to make sense of former conversations made from this witness and the defendant ... pay attention people
I’m not aware of all of the ins and outs of both sides other than what each side is trying to suggest or trying to make the jury believe. I’ve said it a few times as I’m sure many has wondered or maybe somewhere just dismissing it. But for me if it comes out that someone inside of that house googled, how long for a body to die in the cold? It’s game over! No way could Karen have done it…period, case closed NG no matter what else is believed to be proven or not.
Welcome to the circus. Pick a side. The comment section can get rather heated. Seems to be a very equal split of innocent/guilty in the court of public opinion.
I think it was a drunk fight that went too far. I don't think they meant to hurt or murder him, but they also don't wanna loose everything so they make Karen the fall guy. She was actually the 3rd choice. The way she showed up moved her to first choice. Sad.😊
The Civil Trial is the best thing ever! Now we'll finally get some answers without Auntie Bevs objections! Hope she gets disposed. John will be making a claim on a why he needs more money! Shameless.
Throw this whole case out. Whats really interesting is that house and those family members. This is Murdaugh type shh all over again. Entitled and well connected.
He was a good looking guy but I don't believe she did this, he's definitely stronger, I just don't see it when she backed up she wasn't going fast enough to kill him
The prosecutor said in opening that the speed of KR’s vehicle was 20+mph in reverse. I wonder how they knew the speed of the vehicle? Does this make/model provide these details recapping that manoeuvre? (I recall in Alex Murdaugh trial the prosecution used this evidence).
My theory is they argued all the way from Waterfall bar to friends house. He gets out of the car at the friends house, she's p!ssed and pulls away, he falls in the snow. For some reason she decides to reverse at 24 mph (as per the vehicle computer) doesn't see him getting up and hits him as he is getting up which would explain the injuries to his head, torso and arm (and broken tail light). She takes off thinking he'll just get up and go into the friends house. When she wakes up in the morning and can't reach him she remembers hitting him and panics, calls friends who take her to the friends house where they find him lying in the snow as she is said to be saying" I hit him, I hit him".
Sorry but that doesn't account for alot of things. It was snowy and icy. It's virtually impossible for that car to get to 24mph in REVERSE in 60 feet. It's just not physically possible. Doesn't account for 2 black eyes, defensive wounds etc. Doesn't account for the complete negligence of the police investigation (meaning there wasnt one) including 5 "undocumented searches" that magically turned up over 30 pieces of tail light not being found for weeks , all the bias, conflicts of interest etc. etc. I could go on for days. All it takes is REASONABLE doubt for her to be found not guilty and the defense has that in spades. Can't wait to see the FBI investigation on this garbage!
I pray for this young man gone too soon and his family, something was not right looking at his eyes in that picture of him in uniform, looks sad. Wondered what happened from the time he left the bar, to the time he was found in front of the house. Did he get a ride? was he grabbed by several people and beaten? then dumped, and why was she driving with having 9 drinks in her? Maybe she did hit him after he was already down? Lets hope for justice, and let him Rest In Peace💙
So was Karen at the hospital when she made those comments or on the way to her parents house. "Assumed she was medicated because she was at the hospital"
Each relative is reciting the exact information as the last one. Information about relative not involved in this case such as grandparents-- how interested is the jury in all this minucia the proc is elicted.
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I find it odd that when the cops showed up at the party house, nobody came outside. All those red and blues and nobody was even curious?
On my block, if there's any emergency responder within eyesight, nearly everyone steps out to take a look at least. If it's an immediate neighbor, people come over to make sure you're good. Those guys ignored a bunch of cop cars in their own yard? Really?
Quite odd!
Yup, and isn't it odd they weren't even investigated properly? They were allowed to destroy almost all the evidence ffs!
They did. That's merely a rumor.
It was 6am….they were absolutely anihalated…they were all passed out comatose…..
The dog wasn’t even available either
Those poor kid's have had so much loss I pray for them to be well loved and cared for everyone that's taken care of them from their parents to their uncle they've lost
I thought the same. The grandparents lost two of theirs, and the children lost so many too. So so sad
Yes they have. I can’t imagine how they feel. They’ve suffered incredible loss.
Oh my gosh, this is so crushing! A wonderful man… No longer here! He was loved and so concerned about others, especially his sister’s children! How could this possibly happen?
𝗦𝗼 awful. The pain the O'Keefes have endured ... 😔
breaking up with these kind of women, its a risky decision. She is so guilty.⚖️
Blessings for the O'Keefes famility
@@juanacastillo7154 when did they break up?
Have you seen the video at the bar?
I see them together.
What type of girl is she?
Pretty girl?
It’s heartbreaking.
@@jessecars2406 She is an amazing, brilliant self-made millionaire. She loved Johnny and she loved the kids.
The reason Karen Read said “I have to remember the bad times” is because anger is easier to deal with than grief. If you remember he bad times it doesn’t hurt so much. Women use this strategy all the time to lessen the pain of a breakup.
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I hope this message gets to everybody I do not know the family the people please leave the family alone give them respect they don't deserve any of this God bless each and every one of them please pass this I don't know them but I lost my daughter I know the pain please respect them and leave them alone thank you just a person the nose pain😢 may God bless them🙏
What baffles me is that these people act like they're in HIGH SCHOOL.
All dressed in pink? Not knowing what really happened to the Police Officer. They see her as a Celebrity😂😂😂😂
I think she did it. Why would the cops want to frame her??? Her face is ARROGANCE A FAMILY MEMBER SAID, THEY ARGUED!! DRINKING@
@pennicochrane8886 what you think about the federal investigation? In which ATF agent Higgins, who is friends with the Albert's, flipped and proffered with the U.S. Attorney saying he and Brian Albert destroyed their phones and sym card, switched carriers and got new numbers?
Why? Because they killed a police officer that allegedly knew of their thug kids dealing drugs. Its plainly obvious how corrupt this Albert family is.
@@pennicochrane8886
You're clearly BAISED, Have literally Zero expression to persuade Anyone here you possess discernment or rational critical thinking in matters this serious, Ts obvious the policy are witch hunting to Use legal manuvering presumptions to act in behalf of TRUTH for their, laughable attempt, waning to HANG someone for this death.
So with your ineptitude basically forfeiting ANY credibility.
The ole “if enough of Us say so there fore it's a foregone conclusion MUST be as WE say.
Sorry, NOT happening here, TRUTH has shown the DA Intro was shameful Deficient of solid foundational cornerstone application.
Literally 95% ppl replying are scratching there heads in What the HELL kind of a stumbling staggering INTRO to a murder case was this? LOL LOL.
It looked like a B-Rate Oprah Winfrey soap opera comedy.
This things was over as SOON as it started.
95%+ ppl vs what YOU think, HARDLY!
This thing is OVER!-And a waste of time.
@@ThomasJones-ij6hv👍🏼👍🏼
Look at all the lives destroyed b/c of ABUSE OF ALCOHOL. None of this would have happened but for the abuse of alcohol.
I can agree with that. Drugs and booze suck but humans will be human.
And cops are the ones doing it. There was no “Uber- ing” going on either.
I grew up in the Boston area. There is a "subculture" of lushes there. I recall lots of functioning alcoholic parents in the neighborhood.
Alcohol and drugs have ruined society, children, families and individuals. I am South African and frankly I have always, in the past, admired Americans, unfortunately now I think most Americans are entitled, full of it, over the top and greedy. No admiration anymore. If the lady is being set up well the mechanics have been outstanding and flawless. Good luck to the children and parents, the real victims here.
Good point. I don’t drink. It improves nothing.
After following all the evidence and witnesses in this case, along with pictures and videos that surfaced. The red flags that stand out as not normal behavior in a circumstance or event is the fact that not a single friend or coworker of Johns in the house came out to check on all the commotion and flashing lights in their own yard and you know those flashing lights were bouncing off all those front windows of that house. Yet no one checked out what was happening in their own front yard. That is NOT NORMAL behavior. BIG red flag as to why. Also the way the Alberts distanced themselves from obviously being friends with John and Karen, with too many pictures and videos proving they were all friends. Big red flag also. The Alberts invited them to come over to their house, then after the fact acted like they barely knew them. Strange and why? The biggest red flag is the responding officers who never entered the house after finding a dead body in the front yard of said house. That never happens. It would be one of the first things done after seeing John's injuries to look for a murder weapon or anything similar that could've caused his injuries. It's like they all knew ahead of time to keep the focus on Karen and her vehicle only. Anytime a dead body is found, the area or any structures nearby are searched for evidence, regardless of whether he said she said he entered or didn't enter the house. It was established by everyone John was invited their to an after party. WHY was the house and people inside not searched. WHY was only the girlfriend Karen looked at and blamed as being the only conclusion when that is only a part of the whole equation of events that night. Keeping in mind it doesn't matter what anyone has said happened. Why wasn't the whole equation investigated in the onset of John death. Why ? why? Why? This alone stinks. I'm sure Boston's Finest aren't dumb asses, so why narrow an investigation to only one scenario as the cause of death. Why not search and look at everyone from head to toe on injuries they might have had, including searching the house. What a sham!!!!!!!
This cop never goes outside knowing there is a dead cop on n his lawn, bite marks all over arm so they get rid of dog, cops deleting text messages, destroying phones, all the “BUTT” dials, deleted Google searches, not finding glass on lawn until after they investigate the bumper when they towed it to yard, a piece of hair miraculously remains on bumper after traveling through 30 miles in the snow, oh, and let’s not forget Proctor despises Karen and sends all those nasty text messages about her then deleting them…searching for her nude pictures…amazing there is no ring cam at the house or any video on that street….The list goes on and on…Not one cop friend shed a lousy tear over his death…it is a disgrace!!!!!!!
The judge has been extremely biased from the beginning.
Good judge...neutral
Biased? Not from what I'm seeing ...calling the same balls and strikes for both teams
Just the typical constant cheating accusations and arguments that every couple have. How do these people live?
I don't think she did it.
Those Cops are bent as hell. They're setting her up for the fall.
Agree. Totally.
She is factually innocent, there certainly is reasonable doubt.
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@@Jack-eo5fn lmaooooo
So you think every single one of those witnesses all got together and made sure their stories matched? I'm not buying that. There's only ONE person that killed that man.
Didn’t her husband just testify and answer half of these same questions?
Yes. But they want to hear it again. That's common.
No.....watch entire segment
I was just gonna write the same thing. Then he has John’s brother testify about it. He is horrible. He is turning a two week trial into months.!!!! Poor jury
She didn't show any prejudice. She actually helped Karen about the kiss he gave to Lauren's sister.
Sounds like O’Keefe had good family but lousy cop friends.
They weren’t his friends.
Exactly! Probably all jelous if him, jelous - envy- looks like they all had an animosity going towards him, hypocrits!
Karen wasn't much better 😮
@@LeannaMurphy-mx7zywhy did Jen McCabe invite John over? That part confuses me.
@l-train7876
Not sure anyone has that answer. Maybe it will be discussed during trial.
I think they invited anyone on the group at the waterfall.
Some people opted out.
So far the prosecution witnesses have said what a nice person Karen is.
Interesting 🤔
From what I understand, they truly loved her very much. 😔
@@EC-dz3fbloved ? No way...liked...yes
But don't cross her@
That is very interesting indeed, the whole case has smelled fishy from the get-go 👍👍
It's so easy to throw the word you'll disregard in a court room, but really does anybody really disregard? I don't think so.
It just means they can’t use the information when it’s time to deliberate
Sounds like this lawyer went to the same leading law school as Elaine Bredehoft.
If the injuries on his arm were caused by the car, where is the blood on the car? They found a hair, but not a single drop of blood?
Also, head injuries bleed profusely. Where is all the blood from the 2 inch laceration at the back of his head? Hearsay, someone said he lost 3 litres. Where is all the blood????
Exactly, just my opinion, but to me, those injuries on his right arm do NOT look as though they could have been sustained from being hit by a car. If Officer O'Keefe put his arm up to block the SUV from hitting him, would he not have more bruise-like injuries to his arm, a broken arm (allegedly being hit at a high rate of speed), rather than the scratch type marks the photos show?
My point. And now, we know he was wearing a puff jacket. Not on the inventory list, and all the clothes ending up for weeks in Proctor's car....
They did mention a pool of blood underneath him today. The “my cousin Vinny” mentioned it. But once your heart stops, your blood flow slows or just stops so it depends on how his body was situated.
The blood’s probably in the house tho, just my opinion. lol
In the basement of Brian Albert. That’s where all the blood was then they tore the basement floor up weird right ?
Internal bleeding after being struck by a VEHICLE.
Whatever that lawyer said that’s not cool. It doesn’t matter if you like or dislike someone. The jury should be impartial.
you go sister, BTW your very hoti! Maxx
How is that hearsay when it was a direct convo between defendant and witness?!?
Hearsay is ANY statement made by someone other than the witness testifying under oath.
May John O'Keefe rest in the Arms of Angels always
Sending love to John's family!
I like this witness. She’s so honest.
I do to and its difficult for her because her mother-in-law and husband wants to see KR responsible for his death. Selfish and these are the very people who cry out to God for mercy. With all the evidence pointing away from KR. Paul is very angry but at the wrong person and he knows it. Shame! Shame! Shame! on you. Paul
@@ainokea911 Chill out. Karen Read is guilty. Only silly nincompoops think that she is innocent. The jury voted 9-3 to convict Read on the dui/manslaughter charge.
I Strongly suspect there is a lot more to this story than meets the eye!! She could be innocent.....IDK
Cops have ways of covering up their own crimes
I think he got into a fight with a friend at the party. It went too far and he died. They carried him outside and made it look like a hit and run. Their dog even chewed at him
@@bornfree0507 OMG, hahahah, I was just thinking the same dang thing after watching some of the Wrap=Up from Court TV. That dog definitely chewed on his arm and some kind of alcohol related brawl ensued! I think you hit it on the nose.
Ya, one of their nephew's and the victim had a problem, because the nephew was a punk neighbor of the victim. I believe that was the fight and the dog attacked. Victim got hurt bad , or killed, and thrown out in the snow. Maybe the cover up is to protect the nephew.
@@bornfree0507today it occurred to me that he came in the house drunk, acting rowdy and maybe no one heard him BUT THE DOG!! The dog chews his arm up pretty bad, which maybe O’Keefe starts kicking the dog violently to get it off of him. The homeowner gets pissed, a huge fight occurs that gone into bad cover up mode. One thing that appears impossible, is that based on evidence thus far, there’s no way that lady on trial ran Mr Okeefe over.
As I watch this I kinda like to be an objective juror. I have little knowledge of any facts. I'm hearing a lot of this for the first time. Stuff like this has taken place of "Knott's Landing" and "Dynasty" . Only this is real!
That’s how I watch this as well. It’s quite easy to be objective. To be unbiased does not mean you have no opinions. I admit to myself that I have no idea what actually happened until I learn it from the trial testimony.
I mean you'd have to be pretty dumb to try off your police officer husband, at a house party where a whole bunch of other police are at the time. Im just sayin. She doesn't seem like shes that dumb to plan off-ing her husband in that situation.
**Edit: boyfriend, not husband. (Coz that makes a huge difference to the whole comment. Not. )
Well, true, but they weren't married.
@@loveforeignaccents ok, then you'd have to be pretty dumb to do all the above as stated, except change husband to partner. Done.
You must not have seen a lot of true crime cases. People are dumb AF, just like anyone that thinks she's innocent 😂😂😂
She was wasted and driving in a blizzard. Dumb af.
Boyfriend, not husband.
I don’t think it’s a good idea to keep drinking when you have children sooner rather than later your child pick up this bad behavior and I think that’s what happens here.
We all know she did not do it, Every one in that House needs to be charged! He was in that House!
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How do you know. You were not there!
What a filthy and dirty case. Nothing new for the scales of justice. I wonder how much money she's paid so far to the Massachusetts justice system. They took her money 💰 and now she has to fork out more money. While the real murderers are going to skate and continue you on with their lives.
This is so true... There is definitely a lot of secrets going around in this one. Haha
I think the 2 cops and a dog had something to do with this.
Get that person a doctor and cough medicine
Too funny!
You would think they would step outside of the court
Every trial there is someone like that ,only once I heard the judge called them out of the room
That cough ... is a clue .. to remind whatever witness to say something, supposedly incriminating ... like cues .... watch and listen
Right! The whole damn trial.
All you people saying she's guilty
Have you been following this case?
Have you seen all the facts ?
She's FACTUALLY INNOCENT!
Don't spew your parroted TB garbage here. Thanks. 🤭
Absolutely.
The DA Lost the Jury in 20 minutes here.
The fatal mistake he created a soap opera story and the Poor police work is overt with lots holes in their B-Rate police work to build their accusations. .
The one [iece pf supposed evidence a Large rounded tail section doing the facial damage to a humans bone structure. I have had many injuries and his neck o up was beaten by smaller blows and likely a weapon NOT a ;large rind blunt tail section contact at 6-MPH.
Yes I can’t wait to learn more. I’m getting more and more into this case. The deeper we get, the crazier it gets.
Agree
Why do you think the prosecutor brought up the blue car? Parked on the left in the garage and the chevy traverse always parked on the right? or the shoveling?
I'm comming into this case with new eyes and know nothing about the case. I will hold judgement until i kniw more.
That sure is a weird comment! LOL
She's innocent!!!!
Trooper Proctor may resign tomorrow and head to the Philippines!
QUESTION WHY PHILIPPINES? IM FILIPINO AMERICAN
I LIKE THIS ATTY'S THEY ARE SO JOLLY!
Who is she a witness for? I can’t tell. I don’t know a lot about this case yet!
Prosecutor
Prosecution always goes first
This prosecutor is as lousy as the investigation was!
This is a ridiculous case. This wasn’t a deliberate taking of someone’s life at worst it was an accident. Why was she charged with murder?
They saw she got a very good attorney and up charged her thinking she would take a plea to the lesser charge.
Disgusting injustice system!
Because they are jealous nasty ppl
Because he was beaten to death in the basement of the house
Agree, think she def. Backed into him, manslaughter?
Well all I can say is the prosecutor sucks bad 😂 and defense is doing it s job by raising doubt. This is gonna be a wild one that’s for sure…
Those poor kids, losing their parents and then their uncle.
Why would she say something like "oh I hit him, did I hit him, blah blah" if it was murder, it's just illogical
she gave them an out ...
Trying to make it look like an accident I guess
@@yogabee2222 hours later ??
Which brings the next question, why even go back ? Guess that's part of the master plan too ?
@bettywillbrowse - maybe in a moment of panic, now sobering up and remembering that she hit him and admitting it out loud. Likely consulted a lawyer and was immediately told to shut up.
@bettywillbrowse - seems like A LOT of killers go back to see what’s going on. We’ve seen this in countless cases.
As a mother who recently lost a son, my heart is with his mother, father and brother. So hard to see his mother in tears at the beginning. The immature courtside cheerleading and ridiculous immature carryon by the 'fans, their conspiracy theories' they need to start respecting those whose son died.
Nothing more immature than the crooked cops who are trying to frame an innocent person for murder. Using tragedy to garner sympathy doesn't prove she's guilty.
Thank you! This is the first comment that I've read that actually has some sense to it. I don't buy all of their bull crap about her being set up I think the simplest explanation is that she left him and then when she realized what had happened she panicked.
Same here. Just lost mine 9 weeks ago
@@JD29903 💌
@@Wareaglegirl9960 Mine 3 years ago. I'm so, so 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆. Please believe my heart is with you. ♡
Another strange thing is that when Julie Arnold [ Chris's wife, Colin's mother ] arrived at Brian Albert's house at atound 8:30 -9 ish to drip off a card abd donuts for his son's birthday, she did nit see any police, police cars, did not comment on seeing police tape nothing out of the ordinary. Where were the police ?
They were gone - no tape up - it was like no crime ever was there
WTF is with these mundane questions. Paul's wife takes the stand and he starts asking her did Paul have any siblings, their kids, etc., is this absolutely necessary? to establish that we have the correct wife of the relevant Paul O'Keefe on the stand? and not some other random woman who shows up in court to take the stand who in fact is the wife of a Paul O'Keefe who has nothing to do with this case... please someone tell me do they have to establish this for the record?
The term lallygag now makes sense. Yet the judge scolds the defense for taking too long!
Cops, EMT'S firefighters cover each other in general....
Yup, 💯 It’s a brotherhood!
Hope you don’t call if you ever need them
not true.
Not really.
@@susanwhalls6230hope you don't ever have this happen to you.
"I have to remember the bad times." "I don't think I'm ever gonna see you guys again." There you go!!
Yes! I don't see how people can't see it!
Huh? This is indicative of what exactly?
Hahaha and what’s your point?
@@Beccaboo502 Free Your Mind And The Rest Will Follow.
I don’t like Karen, she seems fishy and I have a bad vibe about her but at the end of the day, even if she was a bad girlfriend, doesn’t mean she is a killer, hopefully the jury will get it right and justice Wii be served
Maybe because it's her against the town of Canton. They are all connected to each other and she is the outcast.
Well then case closed 🙄🕵️♀️
I agree but I cannot put my finger on it and I don't know if its about her at all, or the circs.
I agree, she's not very likeable. She's makes a haughty face and duck lips.
I can't tell, do the brother and sister in law support Karen or the police’s version of events?
They don't support Karen
They plan on suing her for wrongful death,so they are going to maintain that opinion.
Erin is gorgeous
Police instinctively would go out to look at a crime scene ,let alone on their own property! That alone looks suspicious,they must have been trying to get the story straight!
Every caretaker these children have had has passed on, at some point you have to look at these kids. Kidding, relax before you freak out.
Next guardian ought to be nervous, for sure.😮😅
😂😂
And the announcer just lied about what John’s sister-in-law said in reply to Karen saying that they’d probably not speak again. Her actual reply was of course we will speak. We’re friends.
It’s obvious that she’s been framed.
Possiby framed imo drunk
Not obvious!
If you watched pre-trail motions, you know it is a frame job.
@@ThePatynightwell 3 weeks later and its obvious now
Who invited John to the party?
Jennifer McCabe.... the same person who Googled the question about how long it takes to die in the cold 😮
Day 14? ? ? After coming BACK to hear John's brother testify. . .THERE WAS A LOT OF SNOW FALLING, GOING INTO THE NEXT DAY. . . . . .
Why is he asking the exact same questions to her and her husband…redundant much
Every attorney in every courtroom asks the same questions of every witness @lindaoheff9169 that's how they get inconsistencies
That's common. Another witness!
Why are they witnesses? Were they there that night? I never understand why the people who should be put on the stand seem like they never are. All the people that were at the house that night should testify along with anyone who went bar hopping with them.
You don't have to be an eyewitness to be a witness. Witnesses are people that can testify as to their relationships with the defendant or the victim, and they can also testify as to the context of what was happening you don't have to be an eyewitness to be valuable to either side
Have you ever watched a trial? This comment is so ignorant 😆
@@chloek2207 I don't think they have.
It’s his sister what tf are you talking abt.
@@chloek2207 Here's some wisdom from Thumper: “If you can't say something nice, don't say nothing at all."
Am I the only person here that thinks she did it? I don't know man Occam's razor man... I just I don't see this whole setup. I believe that there's something to it because there's a lot of people that buy into it but it just doesn't fit for me.
You sure seem it. I've been following thr story for a year and these is SO MUCH blatant corruption by the Commonwealth it never should have even made it this far, but now at least Karen will be exonerated and justice served for John.
No, you're not the only one. ♡
No, there are 27 of you that are paying no attention to the federal investigation disclosures of Karen Read being the target of a murder framejob by corrupt Trooper Proctor, do keep up.
Occam razor, in this case, dulled by technology. 2:27 a.m. hos long search happened.
Just wait till you hear all of the cover up.
Another Elaine with the What if anything. I can’t with that phrase. SMH
How nice of old judge bev to finally make a decision for the the jurors to make sense of former conversations made from this witness and the defendant ... pay attention people
I’m not aware of all of the ins and outs of both sides other than what each side is trying to suggest or trying to make the jury believe. I’ve said it a few times as I’m sure many has wondered or maybe somewhere just dismissing it. But for me if it comes out that someone inside of that house googled, how long for a body to die in the cold? It’s game over! No way could Karen have done it…period, case closed NG no matter what else is believed to be proven or not.
Someone involved in the cover up DID Google that exact thing. At 2 something a.m.
@@dianecharest8365 yes that’s what I have heard and am waiting for that to be proven…once that happens, it’s GAME OVER IMO 💥💯💥
I just heard about this case.
Yeah I know. It’s getting really interesting!
Welcome to the circus. Pick a side. The comment section can get rather heated. Seems to be a very equal split of innocent/guilty in the court of public opinion.
I think it was a drunk fight that went too far. I don't think they meant to hurt or murder him, but they also don't wanna loose everything so they make Karen the fall guy. She was actually the 3rd choice. The way she showed up moved her to first choice. Sad.😊
Karen Read is factually innocent.
💯
Older women don’t like Karen because they are insecure.
@@kathismith7441 Why do you think she’s guilty?
There is no such conclusion as "innocent " in the US Criminal Court System. Guilty or Not Guilty. However, I agree, she is not guilty.
@@kathismith7441 I respectfully disagree. You are certainly entitled to your opinion.
6:49 all this was covered with questioning Johns brother!
She’s innocent💞
These kids being all around these drunks.
It's so sad that he was killed by immoral people. Totall cover up.
@jimmyrade I agree. Let’s wait for the facts to come out.
What facts?
@@PagingDrMakeUp yeah, that’s right. Let’s get the facts from the internet. That always works well.
Honest witness respect Erin
Prosecutor is making a 2-week trial into months!!! He is horrible!!!
This is the worst prosecution I’ve ever seen. Basketball. Waiting at the bus stop. None of this is pertinent. Yellowstone binge watching.
Why weren't there print outs of the text messaging?!? Anyone could make up anything!!
It was only opening arguments. They’re coming.
You can’t make it up on your opening statement. The entire defense would be done and judge Bev wound have admonished him if she didn’t see herself.
Paul and Erin O’Keefe seem to be the only truthful people in this trial. So sad for this whole family. Too much tragedy and loss.
Possible cop coverup
Memory testing should be a part of the entrance exam for law enforcement.It’s all lies and selective memory.
The Civil Trial is the best thing ever! Now we'll finally get some answers without Auntie Bevs objections! Hope she gets disposed. John will be making a claim on a why he needs more money! Shameless.
what if she is being framed it would be an injustice
ls that Paul's wife(she don't need)soo much make-up;)*😅*
Sunblock, my guy!
Worst prosecutor ever. Free Karen Read
Free Karen ONLY if she's innocent.
Throw this whole case out. Whats really interesting is that house and those family members. This is Murdaugh type shh all over again. Entitled and well connected.
I don't care what everyone, including her supporters say, she is Guilty!!
Let it play out
I agree
Throw your petulant child fit somewhere else. The adults are trying to listen to evidence and testimony here.
Yes , according to federal investigation, she is guilty of being framed.
😂
His sister in law seems like a nice lady though
Is her Lips frozen? 😂😂
I bet you wouldn't say that if you were standing behind her SUV.
He was a good looking guy but I don't believe she did this, he's definitely stronger, I just don't see it when she backed up she wasn't going fast enough to kill him
The prosecutor said in opening that the speed of KR’s vehicle was 20+mph in reverse. I wonder how they knew the speed of the vehicle? Does this make/model provide these details recapping that manoeuvre? (I recall in Alex Murdaugh trial the prosecution used this evidence).
Strangely enough,things usually sounds differently(when ur no longer)close❤Which is sad......
My theory is they argued all the way from Waterfall bar to friends house. He gets out of the car at the friends house, she's p!ssed and pulls away, he falls in the snow. For some reason she decides to reverse at 24 mph (as per the vehicle computer) doesn't see him getting up and hits him as he is getting up which would explain the injuries to his head, torso and arm (and broken tail light). She takes off thinking he'll just get up and go into the friends house. When she wakes up in the morning and can't reach him she remembers hitting him and panics, calls friends who take her to the friends house where they find him lying in the snow as she is said to be saying" I hit him, I hit him".
Only thing is, the „i hit him“ came only from Jen mccabe. And she only mentioned it after 12 times questioning
Sorry but that doesn't account for alot of things. It was snowy and icy. It's virtually impossible for that car to get to 24mph in REVERSE in 60 feet. It's just not physically possible. Doesn't account for 2 black eyes, defensive wounds etc. Doesn't account for the complete negligence of the police investigation (meaning there wasnt one) including 5 "undocumented searches" that magically turned up over 30 pieces of tail light not being found for weeks , all the bias, conflicts of interest etc. etc. I could go on for days. All it takes is REASONABLE doubt for her to be found not guilty and the defense has that in spades. Can't wait to see the FBI investigation on this garbage!
Where is the blood??? None found on car at all,or tail light. Blood was everywhere on him. So your theory is not accurate
Incorrect! Listen to the testimonies, you can not come to that conclusion based on the evidence to this date.
Head injuries can cause blood to seep into the eye sockets causing huge bulging black eyes I see it all the time in ER trauma unit
Crazy
Regarding Laura Sullivan … there’s very little info abt her. I found, she organized the Ariba trip. John’s ex-partner used to be her boyfriend.
ITS BEEN WAYYYYY BEYOND YOUR SILLY-NESSSSS
Y'all are busy with all the court cases!
How many crimes that police department made and not a word said about it,what a joke
Its gross how much the family has been attacked.
I pray for this young man gone too soon and his family, something was not right looking at his eyes in that picture of him in uniform, looks sad. Wondered what happened from the time he left the bar, to the time he was found in front of the house. Did he get a ride? was he grabbed by several people and beaten? then dumped, and why was she driving with having 9 drinks in her? Maybe she did hit him after he was already down? Lets hope for justice, and let him Rest In Peace💙
Why did she say he is dead before anyone else knew
Just my opinion here…Because she’s the one that performed CPR on him. She felt how cold he was and she may have simply felt it in her gut.
@@ladylibra216 oh okay I was wondering if she was the one who found him or something.
Someone else said that in a phobe call-testimony.
That is coming.
Phone
Because they ALL knew, she was the only one talking the truth at the time.
Aunt Bev reintegrating what the witness said by saying don’t think about the accused state of mind to the jurors
Guilty AF
I agree
Guilty of being framed, according to federal investigation.
👍💯
Yet no trial amd you haven’t seen the evidence 🕵️♀️
@@josephkain6213Guilty of MURDER.
So was Karen at the hospital when she made those comments or on the way to her parents house. "Assumed she was medicated because she was at the hospital"
Love the comments here. Jury solid. 🙏
Each relative is reciting the exact information as the last one. Information about relative not involved in this case such as grandparents-- how interested is the jury in all this minucia the proc is elicted.