Causing Legal Troubles
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2023
- The plaintiff says the defendant is the girlfriend of her current partner’s ex-husband. She says the woman is stirring up trouble by making false allegations about her behavior with her partner’s kids. She’s suing for all she’s out because she had to hire a lawyer. The defendant says the plaintiff is aggressive and abusive, and she’s countersuing for mental anguish and lost wages.
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This is a perfect example of adults who hate each other more than they love the kids.
Perfectly said
When we tried for our son we made a pact that co-patenting would be 50/50 if we ever split up. Wouldn’t be my sons fault. These are kids playing at being adults
And they are more likely to use the kids against each other.
These adults don't even understand their sex, the basic reality of their being.
Naw. It's a bitter homophobic father who taught his sons his mother is less of a human. So every time he gets disciplined, he makes up a big lie.
As a mom…I’m just shocked at how quiet the bio mom is during all this. The stepmom (defendant) seems more invested in the children!! 😠😠
Agreed!
Nope! Shes being abused by sasquash! 🥴
Sasquach... Exactly!
@@MC-xf8buThe way I just laughed
@@kakishisfriend1126 😂😂😂
I get a bad feeling from the plaintiffs. I think the kids are better off with the father.
Your intuition is accurate.
I am gay and don't like the plaintiff's energy. The mother's partner sounds like a bully.
@DE oh I agree! Them being gay has zero to do with my opinion. It's the energy from the girlfriend. She is angry and doesn't seem to act logically.
The family court needs to appoint a guardian ad litem to vet both sides!! Neither parent seems stable, the parents partners shouldn't play a role in discipline period!!!! These parents hate each and don't care it's destroying their children!!!!
Let's not discount the allegations made twords the father. It was mentioned several times throughout the court case and kinda swept under the rug. This is a lose lose all the way around
My observations: The plaintiff had a very aggressive demeanor that she couldn’t hide in court. She seemed like a total “Karen” who would bulldoze over anyone in her way. And the only one who seemed heartbroken over the situation was the defendants fiancé. I feel so sorry for those kids.
I was surprised the mother (Karen's spouse) hardly said a word through the whole trial. She could have validated the testimony already given, but she didn't. She may not feel comfortable saying anything with a spouse like that.
No wonder the dad has sole custody.
Bulldoze
At beginning of case mother of the children head was hung low and she had a look of shame. Plaintiff the spouse, is a controlling manipulative nut and obviously another court seen that and ruled she can’t be around her step children.
@@billmoran3219 I thought that too
This is one of those cases that would've been perfect for Judge Judy, she'd have absolutely demolished the Plaintiff.
That's probably why she came on here.
Totally agree. Judy does not sugarcoat. ❤
I thought the very same thing. JJ would rip her a new one.
"every last one of you is gonna get hated". judge is so right. wow what a dysfunctional family.
& the bio mom’s straight face after she said it smh.
Not the step mom who actually cares for these babies 😢
The plantiff is the problem and the bio mom needs to get far away from her. Those children shouldn't be anywhere near that woman.
Plaintiff is not the parent and has no parental rights. The mother is a washcloth in a relationship with a bull.
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Her “well Owen loves me”
Doug “well we don’t have proof of that”
I’m deceased 💀⚰️🪦
Lmao
As a mom, I CANNOT FATHOM letting someone bully me into not even speaking up for my kids. I cant believe the bio mom didn’t say a single thing. I 100% believe the partner/plaintiff is a manipulative bully and is mean to the kids AND everyone else. They’re so much better off with the step mother.
I hope you mean their fathers wife
simply because you are NORMAL.
@@ChapinQuestWright obviously
The plaintiff is incredibly domineering. The actual mother of the children was completely shut down and looking at the ground throughout most of this case and that says a lot. I can't help but believe she said and did everything the defendants claimed because the big bully energy she brought to court was intense as hell.
She is just a good ol' Country Girl.
She seems normal to me.
They seem overbearing
Nah, the allegations don't even make sense.
I lean into believing the defendant's version of events. From the way the plaintiff walked into the courtroom, her energy, and the look on her face tells me she's about the drama.
She seemed to have an answer, in her favour, for every accusation.
Can't believe the judge never once questioned the mother
The plaintiff is giving me physical abuse vibes! She is WAYYYYY OUT OF LINE!! THESE ARE NOT YOUR CHILDREN!!!!
My heart broke for the kids listening to the defendant. That plaintiff😡😡😡
The bio parents were way too passive in the court room
The biological mother of these 2 boys needs to leave her female partner.
They all have mental issues and the ones who will ultimately be broken are the kids.
step ,mom with dad is genuine you can tell the other lady is a bully
The longer episodes are the best. They contain the most drama
I absolutely hate this Plaintiff. The mother of these children needs to speak up and get involved for the safety of these children.
Anyone disagree that the father should definitely retain custody? The plaintiff is a nut job with an uncontrollable temper who has no business interjecting herself in her girlfriend's children's lives. You can tell that she's overbearing in the fact that the children's mother only said about two words. The restraining order is the best tool the defendants have.
I didn't even realize that the fat curly haired lady wasn't the kids parent until I was ten minutes in the other lady hasn't spoken at all I don't know if the father is the best person for the kids but I know he's definitely better than the plaintiff's house I believe the kids I absolutely believe the kids
I am gay and realize the problems of same-sex parents. But she definitely is a bully.
@alyssahamlett Damn. I wonder why she's letting her speak for her? I understand nerves but I think it's something more.
@@de4700 Being gay has nothing to do with it. There can be a dynamic in any relationship, sexuality aside, where one partner is dominant to the point of being a bully.
The plaintiff in this case is the person speaking. That's why she's speaking. I believe half of the stuff is a lie from both the kids and the father and half is true. I believe the father was abusing the boys.. the judge ( their child custody judge) seems to be okay with the physical abuse coming from the father not the verbal abuse from the girlfriend of the biological mother.
People if you have kids and divorce RAISE your kids alone until they are grown if you can’t pick a proper mate!
Amen to this! My daughters ex husband was in a relationship where we believe he was being abused, his behavior completely changed and once he broke up with her he's back to himself. Same with my grandsons. They were acting like different kids cause her son would smack the youngest around and caused issues. He told my daughter he is not dating again til the boys are grown. Now if only she would do the same.
The mom's GF is an angry teddy bear. She's just so darn rough around the edges it's obvious. Imagine her a male. Anyone would say the mom is clearly under some sort of abuse. It's only bc she's female and short that our minds don't see it but that's jmo 🤷♀️
I think the father and his woman are full of hate and spoiling the kids while under their watch. This makes it impossible to have rules at the females’ home.
@@lorirogers9304 I think the plaintif are Profesional victims, and the new wife has a lot of warning signs attached to her. Family can afford to spoil a child, isn't doing it to ruin the other parent. Good for them and the child if they can afford it.
Teddy Bear? How bout grizzly bear!
The plaintiff seems like, She does nothing but start stuff.
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What a disturbing situation for these kids…I don’t like how the mom (plaintiff’s partner) was so quiet throughout this whole episode. Let’s say the plaintiff did only “some” of the stuff mentioned to the kids, how could the mom just let her gf do that?? Why does the stepmom seem more caring of the fate of these kids than the actual mother?????
I went through a similar situation with my ex-husband, who hated me more than he loved our son. I eventually had to get a restraining order for 5 years to get him to stop terrorizing me. Thankfully its been 3yrs since the order expired and we have zero contact still. Our son is old enough to know who is what and who's done what... therefore I never bad mouth his father and encourage him to have a relationship with him. He refuses because of all the terrible memories his father planted in his mind trying to get at me. Its unfortunate, but those children will grow up and truly despise them.
The plaintiff seems like a vicious and very confrontational goblin.
She's a freaking monster!
All of them need to grow up and think of the kids
Those kids are going to need therapy. The oldest might have anger issues in his adulthood.
Well that was depressing.
What a toxic environment for those poor kids. Divorce is already hard, these adults should be protecting them and nurturing them not making their childhood a nightmare.
It's fuc%ing crazy that the actual mom was silent . I believe the lover was abusing the kids . Those kids will hate them . I'm happy the father has them .
The mom was quiet, because the girl friend is a gaslighter. She rules the mom.😞
I would've loved to have seen Judge Judy tell both litigants they don't have anything to do with the children and they need to stay out of it
This lady is also bullying the kids mum she cant even speak up for her kids sake😮
She is not the one who was accused of abused
Two wimps each got themselves a woman to fight for them
Exactly. Why are the actual parents not talking?? At least the step mom (defendant) seems like a nice person.
I think it boils down to the older teen being angry that his parents separated and that his mom is a lesbian. They should have waited until they were grown and out of the house.
She said, "Owen loves me"; he said "well there's no proof of that" 😂😂😂
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I was like damn lol
He is so ruthless!!! 😂
Kim is obviously the problem! Look at how aggressive she is in her responses! So many excuses. The mother is neglectful and weak, Kim is full of control and rage I could see that in 15 minutes no way she doesn’t see it in the physical!
If she’s not that parent then she shouldn’t be allowed to do anything to any of the kids. She always has an excuse. She should just stay out of it.
These two parents use those children as ways to hurt each other and it's sad.
The judge should have thrown the book at the plaintiff.
That woman abuses her partner too and gaslights her, guaranteed
Parents and step parents that hate eachother more than they love and care for the children. Not all people deserve to be parents.
Rose just looks beaten down.
Agreed. She look depressed and barely hanging on, which is understandable since she lives with the plaintiff
Or heavily medicated.
The plaintiff is mean and very vindictive! you can hear it in her testimony. She has also been physical with these boys and it's not going to last much longer because they will retaliate. I feel sorry for the young boys and hope that doesn't continue in them with their children. Praying for them to get some help!
The judge is right, I hate my family because they’re all like this. I have horrible memories of them and want nothing to do with them.
The mum and dad are awful! My heart goes out to the stepmom 😢
I would run if I was her.
I swear…. You could tell she’s a good person
Mom's partner seems to have some dominance issues-- why isn't the bio-mom speaking at all? THEY'RE HER KIDS
And Owens loves me
We don’t have any proof of that 😭😭😭😭 so savage
yea that was brutal😂😂😂
Why is the actual mother not being addressed? If the plaintiff is that loud and obnoxious in public, there is no way she is staying out of things at home, and has been for two years.
It is unfortunate that JMs words are going to be prophetic, those boys are going to enter adulthood hating all the parental figures in their lives!
It’s crazy how the bio mom NEVER denied anything that the judge read the boys said to get the restraining order, the child protective services involved, or anything. Speaks volumes!
Four nights every two weeks is too much. With the two plaintiffs sounds like it needs to be supervised visitation.
The plaintiff (not the mom) seems like that classic, mean yeller. You all know the type.
The bio mom is a weak unfit parent she is allowing her partner to abuse her children, their protection should be her 1st priority no excuses, they will hate her the most
"Owen loves me" "well, you don't have proof of that" savage
The Plaintiff is aggressive and Lying and why in the world is she talking MORE then the kids actual mom, she’s so silent , she’s letting the Plaintiff abuse these kids , she’s the PROBEM too . Both sides are a mess
Why do significant others try to parent children who aren't theirs? The plaintiff has no business scolding those children! Dad's fiancé seems like a sweetheart who truly cares for the boys.
soon as plantiff arrived at the podium i knew she was trouble she had a very agressive demeaour
When kids see the parents fighting; they will use that to their advantage as far as privileges. The children are going back & forth telling each set of parents what they want to hear. Especially when it comes to discipline..
The kids are also potentially being abused and being blamed for the poor example that the parents are setting. Kids who experience trauma are more likely to act out- because they often don't feel heard.
@@teacupmagick7030 Bullshit, they are too busy fighting each other to really focus on the kids. I grew up in a family of six. We couldn't play our parents against each other.
@@teacupmagick7030 I’m calling bs too, respectfully. The girlfriend do need to mind her own dang business, but I have no doubt that the 18 year old boy has been playing the situation. Here’s the breakdown:
The bio-mom is mute and don’t discipline her own kids so the girlfriend tries to do it cause she thinks she’s tough. The dad is strict, probably lives a conservative lifestyle and doesn’t like his ex-wife’s gf cause she acting like a stepdad. The stepmom is just trying to be a good support system, but she is easily played cause she’s so sensitive. A rebellious teenager’s dream.
@@kandi668 well spoken!
That "thing" runs her mouth while the mom is quiet! Guess who is in charge of that sick "relationship"!
I cant even finish watching this case.these kids are going to be such screwed up adults. My heart breaks for them. They should be taken away from both homes.
Omgosh the plaintiff is definitely an abuser. You can see it in her eyes, she’s probably bipolar. My step dad was abusive, and bipolar same kind of eyes
The fact that the mother of these kids not saying the word shows how abusive her girlfriend is
What a mess…
Their mom is the cause of this situation.She need to take control and not let someone else do the parenting.
"Your kids are going to hate all of you . All of you. Doesn't that matter to anybody?" Not if the kids hate the other side more. Some people, and from the testimony and writing presented, at least half of these four, at least one on each side, may well be those people, and feel good if their enemies suffer more than they themselves are suffering.
Plantiff shouldn't be allowed near any children.
Whatever they said she did, she did it
These people involve the court system try to make their lives better. The only one that can do this is themselves. Sad that some people keep the hate active in their lives.
The plaintiff is full of excuses and is a bully to those kids!
Mother Plaintiff stood there in SILENCE!! Finally forced to speak in the hallway. Sooo sad sooo sad
The mom's partner is a huge problem and needs to be put in her place. BUT...what kind of mother lets her children be physically and mentally abused by her partner and just stands there without saying a word. DISGUSTING!
Children can be manipulative. At the same time there are a lot of allegations against this woman. I can’t believe the mom is still willing to be in a relationship with her. The dad and stepmom are doing the right thing reporting what the children are saying. The judge is right that the kids are going to hate them.
Maybe some lgbt pb is involved too I found everything odd how they gonna say racist slur to a yt kid
Plaintiff: "Owen loves me"
Doug: "We dont have proof of that"
😂😂😂
The biggest loser in all of this are the kids. I tend to believe the defendants especially since there was a 3rd party witness (coach to the parenting coordinator) saying the plaintiff caused trouble, and multiple times a judge ruled against the plaintiff. Plaintiff takes no responsibility for her actions and blames the situation on a manipulative teenager. Sad situation.
Is Rose the defendant’s ex wife? If so, I’m so curious to know why she is so mute about a case that involves her own children. She seems checked out. That whole dynamic is odd concerning the plaintiffs.
O I wish there was a proper aunt in the mix to check this “partner”.
Wait what? the plaintiff 'accidentally' fell on the child and had him in a choke hold, sounds like she should have no contact whatsoever, with those children...
I don't think we have the right to judge the mother as she may just feel grinded down emotionally and now is not the time she is able to step up and be strong. It happens! It seems to me that there is a level of resentment and lack of understanding on both sides. I pray the children are able to rise above the shortcomings of their parents and go on to be less broken than these folks right here.
The plaintiff is a piece of work and i believe there would not be never the problems if this aggressive brut woman would be out of the pictuce stirring the pot of drama and choas. She loves it, she is intentionly do it and its not her child. But i also dare to say her female friend is also scared of her and cannot stand up to her to stop her, thats why this still continues. She is far worse then an agressive out of control man and if she continues, someone will control her and that will be the LAW in jail.
Why did she make herself cry like that 🙄. Like girl come on now
I don’t understand why adults can’t be adults for the kids sake. Smh
I don't talk to my dad for bs like this and I'm not having kids so I don't pass it on. This is sad
Judge Millian always looks so fabulous. I better look that good when I get her age.
It seems that the plaintiff only sued just to keep the drama going! And the biological mother…weird…she did not say one word 😮
Everyone has done wrong here, but the plaintiff is wicked. She oozes it.
It's really sad when the 2 non parents get involved, only the kids suffer from this
"Owen loves me, too"
Doug: "Well, we don't have proof of that"
Correction the kids are gonna hate the mom for allowing the girlfriend to run her life. The mom didn’t say a thing the entire court proceeding and I can bet she’s being abused as well. The plaintiff is a freggin bully.
She’s definitely being abused. The actual mom has yet to look up. Her face is always to the side or looking down. Classic signs of being abused by a dominant partner
Where is CPS when you need them? These children are being mentally, emotionally, and physically abused. Mom is weak, Stepmom is a bully, father is easily annoyed and aggressive.
The behavior of these adults makes me really sad. They’re failing these children
The biological mother has nothing to say or add?
She's fn USELESS!
She's probably been bullied too
The plaintiff needs to stop having any relationship with those boys. If the kids are lying about her actions, she needs to stay away. If the kids are telling the truth, she needs to stay away. When the kids go to see their mom, she needs to leave the house or stay in the bedroom, not even talk to them.
You can tell the bio mom’s partner is the problem… very aggressive ew
The plaintiff GF looks like an very angry / evil woman
it's just pouring out of her
She's got a bearing and demeanor like a bull dog.
I couldn’t be with someone that keeps me from my kids and abuses them
This case really hurt my heart. I am praying the kids are OK.
Corporal punishment teaches your kid that physicality is how you handle a problem. It takes patience and time to appeal to their brain. Alot of parents wont take the time.
Judge Milian was spot in when she lectured BOTH sides about their inappropriate example they're setting for their kids. Stop being so angry... kids are gonnna remember all of it.
so sad for those boys i 100% believe the defendant came into their home and is ruling their mother and changing the whole way of living that they are used to and the mom seems so passive and submissive that she’s allowing it…. these boys will probably end up hating the mom and step mom
What a pile of a BS !?! Only one person worries about these kids and that’s her!!!!
This was hard to watch. I feel so bad for those kids. Their bio mom needs to split with plaintiff NOW. She is a terrible influence in their lives.