Jaymz: "Ok Kirk, it's your turn, just pop in the studio will you, bring what you've written so far, your riffs, recordings etc" Kirk: "Errrrrrr, what riffs/recordings?" Jaymz: "Fuck man not again, you fucked up, you should never have lost all your riff recordings dude, and stop surfing so much, you might find time to write some good solos then!!....Ok fuck it, just make it up on the spot, we ain't got time now, the first take will have to do" The above dialogue may possibly have happened, or possibly not 😀
If Metallica had a lead guitarist... I've been complaining about kirks playing for nearly 2 decades now. he's written iconic solos throughout the 80s and 90s but since then nothing even above what you would call "lazy"
@@PatPosse I'm a mega fan. There 14 years of my life then theres Metallica and it's never been the same since. I surprised Hatfield or Lars or whoever is producing doesn't say exactly what Bob said to Kirk when they were recording black album. What he puts forward is just not good enough. he can do better we know it, we've heard it.
Totally. They should push him and criticize his work to bring him up to par. Now he’s just winging it and getting away with it and it shows… I wonder if there’s something else behind the scenes…
It took me a few spins, but I enjoy it. It's not groundbreaking, but that's fine. Metallica set the bar to unreachable heights with their early work so we'll never get another Puppets or Lightning. They're older and this is more or less the appropriate direction for them. You're entitled to your own opinion of course. I can understand why people don't like it.
I don’t mind them slowing down it’s the lack of trying in the solo that ads insult to injury for me. I’ve heard some else say “it’s like they are trying to see how little they can do and still get away with it”.
Up to reload it's pretty good, then "descent" on DM and HTSD but utter crap on 72S. I'm not saying he is a "bad" player. I'm just saying he could spend ANY time working on a solo and it would be 100% better than he just winging it and one take improvising on the pentatonic scale...
I appreciate the reaction and breakdown....and I get it from a channel like yours (although this is my first time seeing one of your reactions). I'm an old fan. My first Metallica show was during the Kill 'em All days at a club in SF. I saw them at Day on the Green and Sacramento in '85. I was 18. I learned all of those songs (Kill em All and Lightening...most of it) the old school way, listening to the album and doing it by ear. Back in those days, the music or tab didn't come out for years. Anyway, I feel these guys are put under a microscope on youtube and the shit is broken down way too much before it's actually listened to. We used to just crank the music like it was intended to be through a full stereo system. It seems people are seeing this the first time on their phones or some cheap laptop. Even the old music doesn't sound great like that. Do I like this one? Yes I do. It has that dark and evil sound. Is the solo great? NO. I really don't know what happened to Kirk. He creates some good ones and then just craps out something like this? Not sure what's happened. Let's face it. They are much better live. That's just how it is now and I believe this song would be awesome live and loud with some dark and evil stage lighting. Anyway, sorry about the rant. Keep up the good work. I just subscribed.
I’ll take that as a compliment !! I agree that we must give time for the melodies to sink in and give them an honest shot… people’s attention spans are way shorter these days though and if you don’t grab them by the throat during the first few seconds, you are done! And I personally think this song fails at that… too long an intro and way too repetitive a song. I can’t justify it being 7 minutes long… the Melodies are actually good and the vocals are on point. It sounds great but it’s just too long for no reason (too me, anyway) the solo is a monstrosity. I KNOW Kirk Can do better cause he has, time and time again. That’s why I’m so pissed at it. I think he didn’t even try to do better. It was just good enough. Metallica is way better live, FOR SURE! But, even though I agree that they are scrutinized more on UA-cam because of the fact that they are Metallica, I also know that this song would never get given the time of day had it been released by a local band independently. Love the rant bud! Welcome to the channel! 😁
Thank you brother! Would love to read from you again. Love in-depth comments, especially from an old school metal dude such as yourself! Keep them coming!
The problem with people is no one gives credit for their musical growth that no other band does- Everyone wants Metallica stuck in a time capsule and never grow musically. I would say from musicians perspective I applaud their ability to keep cranking out quality songs, and continue to grow as musicians. I don’t think the reviewer here appreciates that one bit, and like most other people with kind of a limited musicality want them stuck in a certain area and appreciate nothing beyond that. I like to see people grow and not be repetitive. Metallica has nailed that.
I beg to differ... strongly. I have NO PROBLEMS with change and/or growth. In fact, I have praised Load and Hardwired and never once compared this song to an older song. I was completely objective here and spoke only of this song. The fact that it's a long drawn out song and the lame ass solo has nothing to do with the first albums... I can definitely understand change, growth and quality, this ain't it.
And what you my friend sound as though you are not factoring into the equation is people want Metallica stuck in time because their origins - thrash metal is purposefully aggressive, destructive and antisocial music. Unless you take it in a technical progressive direction like Justice, 9/10ths of musical growth usually dilutes, weakens, sells out and polarises the hardcore fanatical fanbase who put them on the map by supporting them when the mainstream - even the established metal bands at the time didn't. Obviously - a band's music is theirs - if Metallica want to record a folk album they have every right to do it - as long as they are prepared for the backlash from metal fans who also listen to black, death and grindcore. You want inoffensive growth bro go listen to Polyphia.
Your opinion is very well stated, I think Kirk is in a comfort zone and his solos on this album so far have not caught me, but I am impressed with how James and Lars always manage to make a unique personality of each song, greetings friend you earned a sub you will see me often here
Thanks man! welcome to the channel! What impresses me is how James and Lars look the other way while Kirk records this... I wonder if we'll see some James solos. That would be cool! Thanks for subbing my bro!
THANK YOU. Man, I am right there with you. Except I was a teen when the Black album came out and having already been a die hard fan of their first four albums i was disappointed with the direction the Black album went. And yeah they haven't really failed to disappoint since. As for Hammetts solos, they blew my mind when I was a kid and he single handedly was responsible for my desire to learn guitar. Lets face it though 30 plus years later his solos have just become stagnant and predictable. Mr Pentatonic only. Have you ever taken a Metallica backing track and redid Hammett solos the way you think it should've been played? I do that all the time at home, it's pretty fun. My friends love it when i do that.
Thanks brother! Yeah, we are on the same page. On justice and the black álbum even load he seems to have pushed himself but ever since then it’s pentatonic salad galore with no intent or melody. It sucks but it is what it is..
@@PatPosse I saw a video that was happening during the making of the Black album i believe, where producer Bob Rock was pushing Hammett to do better. Like Hammett was writing a solo for one of the songs and Bob was saying "Cmon man, your solos are garbage and you know it" ( I might be paraphrasing a little haha) and Hammett was all being a winey bitch about it, but ultimately he was pushed to play a little better. It might be a video that's in a Metallica box set. I haven't seen it in a long time so my memory of it is a little foggy. As for Justice for All, I think that is their best album except for one crucial detail. You cannot hear the Bass at all. I bought the tab book for that album when I was a teenager and it was by far the worst transcribing I've ever seen. So fucken frustrating.
Yeah I remember that video too, that's exactly what they need, we all do really.. and objective critic to squeeze every drop of awesomeness out of us. It might be difficult to work with and even frustrating at times but it pays off in the end, the proof's in the pudding...
I cant remember the name but when james sings temptation it reminds me of a disturbed song....and also the song temptation by cradle of filth...if they were both bland and basic songs...
@@PatPosse The problem with Metallica is their Guitar tone has been very weak, blunt and frail. Too much of mid is killing their awesome riff compositions in Death Magnetic, HTSD, and the new album. Ideal Thrash Metal tone would have proper balance between heaviness & sharpness which Metallica has been missing since mid 2005. Just put Black Album tone in Death Magnetic, HTSD and this new album; the riffs would have sounded more aggressive ferocious. Metallica has shot themselves in the foot for poor choice of Guitar tone in their last 3 albums despite making great compositions.
First two songs I listened to and liked but don't really go back and listen to. This new one is the best out of the three and I really enjoyed it. I just wish Kirk would get his fire back and do some great soloing. His solos haven't been great since Reload or Garage Inc. He's on auto pilot now it seems like.
I can concede that, Kirk’s solo makes this song unbearable. Honestly, it’s not all that bad it’s just waaaaay to repetitive and long and the one thing that could drive it home, the guitar solo, STINKS! 🤦🏻♂️. Swing and a miss! for me, anyways…
Great reaction video Pat! Hmmm.... slightly sharp of standard?? tightened and sped up slightly with an inevitable pitch shift (shades of MOP and Lightning where it was recorded at a certain tempo then sped up! here we go again - let's hope if so, it doesn't take 30 years for their producer to reveal the secrets like Puppets!
Hahaha yes!! I had totally missed that... maybe they'll be some faster songs in the album after all... I hope!! Maybe my ear was a bit off too lol. Rushed it hahaha
@@PatPosse I bet Kirk got a backlash from James years ago when from Guitar World reviewer? from memory - questioned him about the tuning on Lightning, Kirk was adamant in his replies that it's recorded in A = 440, yet obviously when you're in standard trying to play along the recording is closer to F. The interviewer politely didn't mention the obvious - that it must have been then sped up post recording producing the inevitable raise in pitch. I guess James didn't send him a Xmas card that year... and all this is fine - it's their music - but have the balls to admit it - or you lose respect
Last Metallica record that I've truly enjoyed listening to was Death Magnetic. With all respect, Hardwired didn't do anything intresting/special for me.... I'm afraid 72 Seasons will be the same story. Death Magnetic had at least some intresting riffs and memorable solo's
No disrespect detected! I know lots of people who LOVED DM, I am not one of them sadly. Hardwired was ok in the beginning but then it grew on me. I would have left some songs out but it's still pretty solid. It's no masterpiece by any means but enjoyable throughout... I have little faith left on 72 Seasons...
@@PatPosse I think death magnetic is an overall better album than hardwired. But I think the better songs on hardwired like dream..spit...ect eclipse anything on death magnetic.
It really seems like 72 seasons is just gonna be a Hardwired part 2. Hardwired had some decent songs. It’s not a terrible album at all but it’s just good, that it, just good. And based off what I’ve hear so far 72 seasons is gonna be the same
I actually enjoy Hardwired, it could have been better with better solos and a bit more polishing but all in all it’s a solid album. This one feels weaker and more drawn out thus far for me…
I love how some people stand on their throne on critic and judgement. LOL 😂 old school Metallica is never coming back. This who they are now love them or hate them. I mean at age 60 there doing pretty good. There song writing has changed but so what. But I respect your opinion.
As long as there’s respect I am ok with it! Old school Metallica is never coming back. That’s a FACT! But… I think they could have worked on this song a bit more and made it an absolute banger!
There might be a point there... After listening to it a few more times, it still feels waaay too long though.. maybe if they do a medley thing like they used to do with justice... that would be cool!
I would be interested to hear what you don't like about Death Magnetic... I don't hear many people talking about that record but to me it's up there with the 80s classics... sure, it's not perfect and maybe it drags out too long but the songwriting is fucking fenomenal and extremely creative... riffs are all pretty strong and there are so many good leads as well... The day that never comes, all nightmare long, suicide and redemption...
Thanks for your interest my dude! I really need to revisit that album, I think the fact that it was super hyped before it came out kinda rubbed me wrong way. Maybe it just wasn't what i expected after readying all the reviews back then. I should really give it an honest listen/review and see what it is I dislike about it or if it changes my mind... I've made a Metallica albums ranking video a while back where I talk about DM and all the other albums, you might enjoy it! Here it is: ua-cam.com/video/aQEQ1jkY_tM/v-deo.html Hope you watch it and love it!
@@PatPosse watched your ranking, was pleasantly surprised with Load. I do like that record as well, it's a solid 90s alternative rock record. Regarding Death Magnetic I see what you mean, back when it came out you long time fans had high expectations because the 80s albums were still pretty much the standard for metallica quality... having become a fan around the time of hardwired came out I had a different perception of what Metallica could write But then again, it also comes down to taste
@@Taylor-ou7xp I agree dude. It was all in the context! Load is a damn good album if you can past the fact that it's different from the 80's stuff! this upcoming one though seems objectively uninspired... Still hoping to be proven wrong though!
I’ll definitely try to! Hoping to get my hands on a copy on release day just like I did with the megadeth one, even if it’s a CD, there’s still something awesome about having a physical copy the day is released😁. There’s always a premium to be paid for that though 😥
The rhythm sounds like shortest straw. Justice was their last good album, all down hill from that point onwards. Their first 4 albums were phenomenal though, credit where credits due.
Yes, that flat 2nd (F after E) gives it that vibe for sure. LOVE Justice! I actually enjoy a lot of their albums but I seems to think of them as different bands at times lol 80s Metallica, 90s Metallica and the rest...
nice reaction at least someone who says the truth, i think the last metallica album that was ok for me was load. after that not one metallica album really got me. they where all boring as fuck, well produced the typical metallica sound , not really bad at all but only a shadow from what they have wrote in theyre early years. i was born 1970 and when i was around 20 i thought there are 2 bands that will and never could dissapoint me, metallica and queensryche hahaha now im older and wiser
Hahaha Thanks Bob!! Yeah I was actually surprised at the amount of hate I got for saying my truths… then I went on UA-cam to test the waters and I saw that most people praised this song 😳. Granted most these people are not even into metal and are just going for the views (which I totally understand) but there’s a lot of fanboys out there defending this song and album tooth and nails… I really hope they surprise me but so far it’s just been a big disappointment. First impressions are the ones that count… thus far, I’m not impressed, hahaha. Thanks for watching and commenting !!
I listened to the first 3 songs and never really felt the urge to listen to them again...nothing special about them...repetitive and boring I might say...but it's Metallica...people love whatever they come up with even if it really sucks.
I agree. Any unknown band writing songs like this would never make it. It's so uninspired and dull. These guys wrote stuff like harvester of sorrow... Sad
Exactly! I've said it on a different reply to a comment but if this song had been released by a local band no one would care, much less try to defend it.
As an older fan, I can say this is one James best work vocal wise besides ajfa. As for Rob.. solid bass work, nothing special there. Kirk as usual sucks on soloing. Has since hardwired to self destruct. Lars as usual is just doing his own thing on the drums but it does bring the song together.
I remember when there was so much hype around "death magnetic" and how "metallica were going back to thrash" ... man what a bunch of tripe. so many people were so excited to hear metallica go back to their roots. then we got 3 repetitive ass albums that sound like garbage. Would these songs be a strong single if released by a band trying to get into the scene? probably not...
Finally someone remembers it!! I feel like it was just me 🤣🤣. Dude, SAD BUT TRUE. No body would give two shits about this song if it were released by pretty much anyone else. We are al trying to cling on to the good old days and what Metallica represents to all of us and we are trying to defend the impossible. We even listen to the songs way more times and give them far more chances trying to find some redeeming qualities, meanwhile there are tons of bands out there who are coming up with way more interesting efforts, better, catchier songs, inspiring lyrics, technical solos, etc… and we won’t give them the time of day. It’s sad but you hit the nail right on the head. I am guilty of it too!…
@@PatPosse Thanks man, Not often I get a reply from the content creator :) , unfortunately it IS sad but true, we are all distantly hoping for another epic album (The album that never comes). The truth is, We cant bring Cliff back from the dead, James cant un-blow his voice out, Lars will never be the AJFA drummer again, and Kirk has been in the band too long now to give the job back to Dave. The only thing that Metallica have for them anymore is their name and reputation from days gone by, which they are proceeding to take a huge dump on. Its like Motley Crue trying to pretend Vince's live show is ok lol
Hahaha YES!!! I guess the brand is bigger than the members at this point and they are so well established as royalty at this point that they don’t really have to even try… on any other instance these songs (or solos!) wouldn’t even fly! There would be personnel changes and ass kickings so fast you’d think they were re recording Dyers Eve! 🤣🤣
I love Kirk but I cant defend it, some of his solos are great but this improv BS sucks ass, it all sounds so generic and similar and has no impact. Really wish they would push him like Bob Rock used to because he used to write some great stuff.
YES! He had some awesome solos when he was pushed to actually compose them and practice. Now it seems like he just wings them. One take, there, good enough. NEXT.
I love the first two songs but this needs to go back to the editing room trim the fat and work on that solo I know Kirk can do it because his solo album was great
Oh yeah !! I said the same thing on a reply to a comment. Someone EXACTLY like Bob, with his credentials and balls to tell these guys to stop slacking!
The “high and mighty” comment you wrote makes it sound like you think you know something you obviously don’t. This might sound good to you but it doesn’t to most people who actually know metal. Next time you comment on anyone’s video make sure you put yourself were your belong and say “I am not an expert but I like this” before claiming to have an authorized opinion about it, that way you won’t come across like an asshole, genius.
Biggest metal band? for sure. Wannabe? nope, I am what I want to be and I play what and how I want to play. Never jealous of this band, in fact, they've always been an inspiration but shoot me if I ever record a solo this shitty.
Having heard this song 4 times now.. It's dreary and Drab.. It's terrible.. With Kirk being extremely lazy. The other two songs.. No.. Especially that Suicide song.. No. Metallica are at stalemate. Bob Rock is not there to Challenge Kirk. Am not excited about this album. Recently I went back to Death Magnetic.. Having only heard it twice when it came out.. I went back to it.. No.. Drab and Un interesting. Hardwired to me is awful.. Absolutely not. The title track to Hardwired was maybe the worst Metal song I've heard. The last great Metallica album was St Anger... And Lulu is terrific.. Heard it for the first time a year ago.. Great album. I bought St Anger the day it was released. Heard it twice.. Couldn't connect.. Then disconnected from Metallica for many years. A year ago.. Decided to Re visit(no pun intended) St Anger.. As it has a terrible reputation online.. Here on youtube. I went in with no expectation.. Prepared to not like it.. I had no reason to like St Anger. I pressed play and the journey was smooth sailing.. In fact some of the songs were familiar to me. It was a great listen.. A great flawless album. I listen to St Anger semi regularly. As for Load and Re load.. I had a listen to them both after not having heard them in 20 years.. Meh.. They are Ok.. But I have trouble getting through them.. Less trouble with Re load.. But still No. More recently went back to the Black album.. Yeah.. Interesting.. Though have trouble getting all the way through it. After Jason left.. I disconnected from Metallica completely.. Never liked Rob.. Never will. Yeah.. Have seen a couple of his interviews.. He seems cool.. But just No. For me St Anger is their best album.. It's my preferred to go to. This song.. I thought about it and what it reminded me of. Slither.. Velvet Revolver. Also this song is very much in the sense of Load and Re load. Kirk being the weakest link.
That's the cool thing about music, St. Anger is still my least favorite Metallica Album (after lulu)... this one is shaping up to be a close second hahaha. I miss Jason too.
Nah man, it ain't. I'm an amateur songwriter but I can tell you it's the laziest and most washed out songwriting ever. Riffs, rythm and structure are basic as hell and they drag out for no fucking reason... this song would have been bad even if it was 3 minutes long.
@@Taylor-ou7xp My man. Truer words were never spoken. Truly uninspired and WAY too repetitive and drawn out... They need to get a real producer involved again...
I respect your opinion. I personally like this song although it could've been trimmed down. We still have 9 songs to listen to. Hopefully there will be some true thrashers that will surprise us all. Inamorata has me curious.
hate the album cover, lux have me dissapointed, screaming was one of the worst Metallica songs of all time, AND this song Is one of the most boring, this album is bad already with this songs i saw live last year and the Golden era songs they played 10/10 why they can't do an album like that?
@@PatPosse De un tiempo a esta parte, Metallica se convirtieron en una orquesta de casamientos, tocando covers de otra banda... Que alguna vez fueron. Dejaron de ser artistas hace tiempo, todos sus coetáneos thrashers en los últimos años sacaron material muchísimo más digno, incluído el disco más flojo de Megadeth.
You obviously haven’t watched the whole video and decided to talk shit after one sentence that triggered you. That’s the internet and ignorant people for you… 🤦🏻♂️. Walk on home boy.
screaming suicide was a good song but this is way too long and repetitive. it could ended 3 minutes. it had so much potential but metallica is ruining it by over simplifying it.
Totally. It would have been a more solid track if they had trimmed some of the fat! Also, the video is pretty boring as well, maybe some better imagery would have helped it not be as monotonous
Jaymz: "Ok Kirk, it's your turn, just pop in the studio will you, bring what you've written so far, your riffs, recordings etc"
Kirk: "Errrrrrr, what riffs/recordings?"
Jaymz: "Fuck man not again, you fucked up, you should never have lost all your riff recordings dude, and stop surfing so much, you might find time to write some good solos then!!....Ok fuck it, just make it up on the spot, we ain't got time now, the first take will have to do"
The above dialogue may possibly have happened, or possibly not 😀
Kirk: Got it. You know, the not in between is still fucking with me, but fuck it!
Lol sounds about right!
If Metallica had a lead guitarist... I've been complaining about kirks playing for nearly 2 decades now. he's written iconic solos throughout the 80s and 90s but since then nothing even above what you would call "lazy"
Lazy and uninspired for sure. I can’t understand how people still defend him! I got so much hate for this video.. 🤦🏻♂️.
@@PatPosse I'm a mega fan. There 14 years of my life then theres Metallica and it's never been the same since. I surprised Hatfield or Lars or whoever is producing doesn't say exactly what Bob said to Kirk when they were recording black album. What he puts forward is just not good enough. he can do better we know it, we've heard it.
Totally. They should push him and criticize his work to bring him up to par. Now he’s just winging it and getting away with it and it shows… I wonder if there’s something else behind the scenes…
It took me a few spins, but I enjoy it. It's not groundbreaking, but that's fine.
Metallica set the bar to unreachable heights with their early work so we'll never get another Puppets or Lightning. They're older and this is more or less the appropriate direction for them. You're entitled to your own opinion of course. I can understand why people don't like it.
I don’t mind them slowing down it’s the lack of trying in the solo that ads insult to injury for me. I’ve heard some else say “it’s like they are trying to see how little they can do and still get away with it”.
I love Kirk’s playing personally idk I just like it it works with their music so well for me.
Up to reload it's pretty good, then "descent" on DM and HTSD but utter crap on 72S. I'm not saying he is a "bad" player. I'm just saying he could spend ANY time working on a solo and it would be 100% better than he just winging it and one take improvising on the pentatonic scale...
I appreciate the reaction and breakdown....and I get it from a channel like yours (although this is my first time seeing one of your reactions). I'm an old fan. My first Metallica show was during the Kill 'em All days at a club in SF. I saw them at Day on the Green and Sacramento in '85. I was 18. I learned all of those songs (Kill em All and Lightening...most of it) the old school way, listening to the album and doing it by ear. Back in those days, the music or tab didn't come out for years. Anyway, I feel these guys are put under a microscope on youtube and the shit is broken down way too much before it's actually listened to. We used to just crank the music like it was intended to be through a full stereo system. It seems people are seeing this the first time on their phones or some cheap laptop. Even the old music doesn't sound great like that.
Do I like this one? Yes I do. It has that dark and evil sound. Is the solo great? NO. I really don't know what happened to Kirk. He creates some good ones and then just craps out something like this? Not sure what's happened. Let's face it. They are much better live. That's just how it is now and I believe this song would be awesome live and loud with some dark and evil stage lighting. Anyway, sorry about the rant. Keep up the good work. I just subscribed.
I’ll take that as a compliment !! I agree that we must give time for the melodies to sink in and give them an honest shot… people’s attention spans are way shorter these days though and if you don’t grab them by the throat during the first few seconds, you are done! And I personally think this song fails at that… too long an intro and way too repetitive a song. I can’t justify it being 7 minutes long… the Melodies are actually good and the vocals are on point. It sounds great but it’s just too long for no reason (too me, anyway) the solo is a monstrosity. I KNOW Kirk Can do better cause he has, time and time again. That’s why I’m so pissed at it. I think he didn’t even try to do better. It was just good enough. Metallica is way better live, FOR SURE! But, even though I agree that they are scrutinized more on UA-cam because of the fact that they are Metallica, I also know that this song would never get given the time of day had it been released by a local band independently.
Love the rant bud! Welcome to the channel! 😁
@@PatPosse sorry! For sure it's a compliment. Great channel.
Thank you brother! Would love to read from you again. Love in-depth comments, especially from an old school metal dude such as yourself! Keep them coming!
this album is a masterpiece and such a great one too
Not a fan...
The problem with people is no one gives credit for their musical growth that no other band does- Everyone wants Metallica stuck in a time capsule and never grow musically. I would say from musicians perspective I applaud their ability to keep cranking out quality songs, and continue to grow as musicians. I don’t think the reviewer here appreciates that one bit, and like most other people with kind of a limited musicality want them stuck in a certain area and appreciate nothing beyond that. I like to see people grow and not be repetitive. Metallica has nailed that.
I beg to differ... strongly. I have NO PROBLEMS with change and/or growth. In fact, I have praised Load and Hardwired and never once compared this song to an older song. I was completely objective here and spoke only of this song. The fact that it's a long drawn out song and the lame ass solo has nothing to do with the first albums... I can definitely understand change, growth and quality, this ain't it.
And what you my friend sound as though you are not factoring into the equation is people want Metallica stuck in time because their origins - thrash metal is purposefully aggressive, destructive and antisocial music. Unless you take it in a technical progressive direction like Justice, 9/10ths of musical growth usually dilutes, weakens, sells out and polarises the hardcore fanatical fanbase who put them on the map by supporting them when the mainstream - even the established metal bands at the time didn't. Obviously - a band's music is theirs - if Metallica want to record a folk album they have every right to do it - as long as they are prepared for the backlash from metal fans who also listen to black, death and grindcore. You want inoffensive growth bro go listen to Polyphia.
@@PatPosse good point Pat
@@mikerauter1859 Thanks boss!
Your opinion is very well stated, I think Kirk is in a comfort zone and his solos on this album so far have not caught me, but I am impressed with how James and Lars always manage to make a unique personality of each song, greetings friend you earned a sub you will see me often here
Thanks man! welcome to the channel! What impresses me is how James and Lars look the other way while Kirk records this... I wonder if we'll see some James solos. That would be cool! Thanks for subbing my bro!
If Kirk had a son perhaps he could teach his old man how to solo
🤣🤣🤣🤣. That’s awesome!
Like Lars and his son🤣
Kirk has 2 sons.
THANK YOU.
Man, I am right there with you. Except I was a teen when the Black album came out and having already been a die hard fan of their first four albums i was disappointed with the direction the Black album went. And yeah they haven't really failed to disappoint since. As for Hammetts solos, they blew my mind when I was a kid and he single handedly was responsible for my desire to learn guitar. Lets face it though 30 plus years later his solos have just become stagnant and predictable. Mr Pentatonic only. Have you ever taken a Metallica backing track and redid Hammett solos the way you think it should've been played? I do that all the time at home, it's pretty fun. My friends love it when i do that.
Thanks brother! Yeah, we are on the same page. On justice and the black álbum even load he seems to have pushed himself but ever since then it’s pentatonic salad galore with no intent or melody. It sucks but it is what it is..
@@PatPosse I saw a video that was happening during the making of the Black album i believe, where producer Bob Rock was pushing Hammett to do better. Like Hammett was writing a solo for one of the songs and Bob was saying "Cmon man, your solos are garbage and you know it" ( I might be paraphrasing a little haha) and Hammett was all being a winey bitch about it, but ultimately he was pushed to play a little better. It might be a video that's in a Metallica box set. I haven't seen it in a long time so my memory of it is a little foggy.
As for Justice for All, I think that is their best album except for one crucial detail. You cannot hear the Bass at all. I bought the tab book for that album when I was a teenager and it was by far the worst transcribing I've ever seen. So fucken frustrating.
Yeah I remember that video too, that's exactly what they need, we all do really.. and objective critic to squeeze every drop of awesomeness out of us. It might be difficult to work with and even frustrating at times but it pays off in the end, the proof's in the pudding...
You are wrong about everything. This is the best out of the three new songs, and that was an awesome solos a minute and 10 seconds.
What an idiot 🤦🏻♂️. Walk on home 🤣
I cant remember the name but when james sings temptation it reminds me of a disturbed song....and also the song temptation by cradle of filth...if they were both bland and basic songs...
You got me there, not familiar with those songs but it was funny nonetheless
Is it really??
The title should be: If darkness had a... Son of a bitch!
🤣🤣🤣
New Metallica just tells me that Iron Maiden is the greatest metal band of all time.
🤣🤣🤣.
@@PatPosse
The problem with Metallica is their Guitar tone has been very weak, blunt and frail.
Too much of mid is killing their awesome riff compositions in Death Magnetic, HTSD, and the new album.
Ideal Thrash Metal tone would have proper balance between heaviness & sharpness which Metallica has been missing since mid 2005.
Just put Black Album tone in Death Magnetic, HTSD and this new album; the riffs would have sounded more aggressive ferocious.
Metallica has shot themselves in the foot for poor choice of Guitar tone in their last 3 albums despite making great compositions.
There’s a great point here. It’s just not as crushing as it once was…
Nah son
First two songs I listened to and liked but don't really go back and listen to. This new one is the best out of the three and I really enjoyed it. I just wish Kirk would get his fire back and do some great soloing. His solos haven't been great since Reload or Garage Inc. He's on auto pilot now it seems like.
I can concede that, Kirk’s solo makes this song unbearable. Honestly, it’s not all that bad it’s just waaaaay to repetitive and long and the one thing that could drive it home, the guitar solo, STINKS! 🤦🏻♂️. Swing and a miss! for me, anyways…
very good reaction
Thank you very much! 😁
Great reaction video Pat! Hmmm.... slightly sharp of standard?? tightened and sped up slightly with an inevitable pitch shift (shades of MOP and Lightning where it was recorded at a certain tempo then sped up! here we go again - let's hope if so, it doesn't take 30 years for their producer to reveal the secrets like Puppets!
Hahaha yes!! I had totally missed that... maybe they'll be some faster songs in the album after all... I hope!! Maybe my ear was a bit off too lol. Rushed it hahaha
@@PatPosse No your right its a hair sharp
Nice! Just making sure lol
@@PatPosse I bet Kirk got a backlash from James years ago when from Guitar World reviewer? from memory - questioned him about the tuning on Lightning, Kirk was adamant in his replies that it's recorded in A = 440, yet obviously when you're in standard trying to play along the recording is closer to F. The interviewer politely didn't mention the obvious - that it must have been then sped up post recording producing the inevitable raise in pitch. I guess James didn't send him a Xmas card that year... and all this is fine - it's their music - but have the balls to admit it - or you lose respect
I am for studio tricks!! But man up to them!
I think Kirk has been quiet quiting since St. Anger. DM had some decent solos, but still minimal.
I think there’s some truth to that… I thought his solo EP would be a nice outlet but I guess it wasn’t enough…
I'll have to check out more of the tracks before I pass judgment. But their early stuff is still the best.
There’s only 3 out this far. This is my least favorite one out of the three.
Last Metallica record that I've truly enjoyed listening to was Death Magnetic. With all respect, Hardwired didn't do anything intresting/special for me.... I'm afraid 72 Seasons will be the same story. Death Magnetic had at least some intresting riffs and memorable solo's
Laughs in spit out the bone
@@kornishpasty 😂🤦♂️
No disrespect detected! I know lots of people who LOVED DM, I am not one of them sadly. Hardwired was ok in the beginning but then it grew on me. I would have left some songs out but it's still pretty solid. It's no masterpiece by any means but enjoyable throughout... I have little faith left on 72 Seasons...
@@PatPosse I think death magnetic is an overall better album than hardwired. But I think the better songs on hardwired like dream..spit...ect eclipse anything on death magnetic.
I can see that for sure! The high points on hardwired are way higher than the ones on death magnetic but the dips are also lower…
My favorite riff in the song only was in the song like 15 seconds
Dude yes!! I was hoping it’d come back later in the song but nope.
It really seems like 72 seasons is just gonna be a Hardwired part 2. Hardwired had some decent songs. It’s not a terrible album at all but it’s just good, that it, just good. And based off what I’ve hear so far 72 seasons is gonna be the same
I actually enjoy Hardwired, it could have been better with better solos and a bit more polishing but all in all it’s a solid album. This one feels weaker and more drawn out thus far for me…
I love how some people stand on their throne on critic and judgement. LOL 😂 old school Metallica is never coming back. This who they are now love them or hate them. I mean at age 60 there doing pretty good. There song writing has changed but so what. But I respect your opinion.
As long as there’s respect I am ok with it! Old school Metallica is never coming back. That’s a FACT! But… I think they could have worked on this song a bit more and made it an absolute banger!
it will be banger on live concerts, Don't like to listen Enter Sandman studio, but on live perfomance it's really the best one in set list
There might be a point there... After listening to it a few more times, it still feels waaay too long though.. maybe if they do a medley thing like they used to do with justice... that would be cool!
I would be interested to hear what you don't like about Death Magnetic... I don't hear many people talking about that record but to me it's up there with the 80s classics... sure, it's not perfect and maybe it drags out too long but the songwriting is fucking fenomenal and extremely creative... riffs are all pretty strong and there are so many good leads as well... The day that never comes, all nightmare long, suicide and redemption...
Thanks for your interest my dude! I really need to revisit that album, I think the fact that it was super hyped before it came out kinda rubbed me wrong way. Maybe it just wasn't what i expected after readying all the reviews back then. I should really give it an honest listen/review and see what it is I dislike about it or if it changes my mind...
I've made a Metallica albums ranking video a while back where I talk about DM and all the other albums, you might enjoy it!
Here it is: ua-cam.com/video/aQEQ1jkY_tM/v-deo.html
Hope you watch it and love it!
@@PatPosse watched your ranking, was pleasantly surprised with Load. I do like that record as well, it's a solid 90s alternative rock record.
Regarding Death Magnetic I see what you mean, back when it came out you long time fans had high expectations because the 80s albums were still pretty much the standard for metallica quality... having become a fan around the time of hardwired came out I had a different perception of what Metallica could write
But then again, it also comes down to taste
@@Taylor-ou7xp I agree dude. It was all in the context! Load is a damn good album if you can past the fact that it's different from the 80's stuff! this upcoming one though seems objectively uninspired... Still hoping to be proven wrong though!
@@PatPosse we'll see in a month... I'll keep an eye out for your review (if you intend to do one)
I’ll definitely try to! Hoping to get my hands on a copy on release day just like I did with the megadeth one, even if it’s a CD, there’s still something awesome about having a physical copy the day is released😁. There’s always a premium to be paid for that though 😥
I said the same thing. Actually left a comment on the “official video” video. Just sounds sloppy. Sounds like an 8 yr old playing.
Funny how they go crazy defending it 🤦🏻♂️
The rhythm sounds like shortest straw. Justice was their last good album, all down hill from that point onwards. Their first 4 albums were phenomenal though, credit where credits due.
Yes, that flat 2nd (F after E) gives it that vibe for sure. LOVE Justice! I actually enjoy a lot of their albums but I seems to think of them as different bands at times lol 80s Metallica, 90s Metallica and the rest...
@@PatPosse Thanks Pat,👍.
😁🤘🏻. Thank you for watching and commenting my dude!
@@PatPosseYou’re welcome mate.
💪🏻🤘🏻
People sleep on all nightmare long and that was just your life.
True. They get overlooked a lot. I’m guilty of it too.
nice reaction at least someone who says the truth, i think the last metallica album that was ok for me was load. after that not one metallica album really got me. they where all boring as fuck, well produced the typical metallica sound , not really bad at all but only a shadow from what they have wrote in theyre early years. i was born 1970 and when i was around 20 i thought there are 2 bands that will and never could dissapoint me, metallica and queensryche hahaha now im older and wiser
Hahaha Thanks Bob!! Yeah I was actually surprised at the amount of hate I got for saying my truths… then I went on UA-cam to test the waters and I saw that most people praised this song 😳. Granted most these people are not even into metal and are just going for the views (which I totally understand) but there’s a lot of fanboys out there defending this song and album tooth and nails… I really hope they surprise me but so far it’s just been a big disappointment. First impressions are the ones that count… thus far, I’m not impressed, hahaha. Thanks for watching and commenting !!
I dunno man, I feel like this song is phoning it in if I am being honest
No argument here. I feel the same way, especially the solo!!
@@PatPosse Yeah man, I definitely feel that
Sucks though. I was rooting for them!
@@PatPosse I was too man
Let’s hope the album has some gems in it we haven’t heard yet! 😁🤘🏻🤘🏻
I listened to the first 3 songs and never really felt the urge to listen to them again...nothing special about them...repetitive and boring I might say...but it's Metallica...people love whatever they come up with even if it really sucks.
I agree. Any unknown band writing songs like this would never make it. It's so uninspired and dull. These guys wrote stuff like harvester of sorrow... Sad
Exactly! I've said it on a different reply to a comment but if this song had been released by a local band no one would care, much less try to defend it.
The only true thrash that retain is Dave Mustaine band.
Metallica is over I believe.
Kind of disappointing.
Very disappointing 😣
I’m new to actually making my own riffs and songs. And I’ve done much better😃
I believe it!! 🤣🤘🏻
As an older fan, I can say this is one James best work vocal wise besides ajfa. As for Rob.. solid bass work, nothing special there. Kirk as usual sucks on soloing. Has since hardwired to self destruct. Lars as usual is just doing his own thing on the drums but it does bring the song together.
Yeah James is definitely doing great on this album, other than that, nothing special…
For someone who is a skilled guitar player such as Kirk, that solo was bland as hell.
YES. LAME AS F*CK!
I remember when there was so much hype around "death magnetic" and how "metallica were going back to thrash" ... man what a bunch of tripe. so many people were so excited to hear metallica go back to their roots. then we got 3 repetitive ass albums that sound like garbage. Would these songs be a strong single if released by a band trying to get into the scene? probably not...
Finally someone remembers it!! I feel like it was just me 🤣🤣. Dude, SAD BUT TRUE. No body would give two shits about this song if it were released by pretty much anyone else. We are al trying to cling on to the good old days and what Metallica represents to all of us and we are trying to defend the impossible. We even listen to the songs way more times and give them far more chances trying to find some redeeming qualities, meanwhile there are tons of bands out there who are coming up with way more interesting efforts, better, catchier songs, inspiring lyrics, technical solos, etc… and we won’t give them the time of day. It’s sad but you hit the nail right on the head. I am guilty of it too!…
@@PatPosse Thanks man, Not often I get a reply from the content creator :) , unfortunately it IS sad but true, we are all distantly hoping for another epic album (The album that never comes). The truth is, We cant bring Cliff back from the dead, James cant un-blow his voice out, Lars will never be the AJFA drummer again, and Kirk has been in the band too long now to give the job back to Dave.
The only thing that Metallica have for them anymore is their name and reputation from days gone by, which they are proceeding to take a huge dump on.
Its like Motley Crue trying to pretend Vince's live show is ok lol
Hahaha YES!!! I guess the brand is bigger than the members at this point and they are so well established as royalty at this point that they don’t really have to even try… on any other instance these songs (or solos!) wouldn’t even fly! There would be personnel changes and ass kickings so fast you’d think they were re recording Dyers Eve! 🤣🤣
I would be embarrassed to release something this monotonous, derivative, boring and basic 40 years into my career.
You and I both. I blame the producer here though. The riffs are cool and simple but too repetitive!
I love Kirk but I cant defend it, some of his solos are great but this improv BS sucks ass, it all sounds so generic and similar and has no impact. Really wish they would push him like Bob Rock used to because he used to write some great stuff.
YES! He had some awesome solos when he was pushed to actually compose them and practice. Now it seems like he just wings them. One take, there, good enough. NEXT.
I love the first two songs but this needs to go back to the editing room trim the fat and work on that solo I know Kirk can do it because his solo album was great
👆🏻 THIS. 100% on the money. I KNOW he can do better. But it seems like he didn’t even try!
@@PatPosse they need someone like Bob Rock to say well this sucks work on it more Bob is probably the reason the black album exploded
Oh yeah !! I said the same thing on a reply to a comment. Someone EXACTLY like Bob, with his credentials and balls to tell these guys to stop slacking!
Kirk has been sloppy and repetitive for years. Bob Rock used to push him harder it seems.
YES. He needs to be pushed apparently...
I want to like it but it's just boring to me ,🥺
I’m with you. Too long and repetitive…
Let’s see you put out an album and then critique others
I have, and I’ve toured the world and USA a few times. Where’s yours?
@@PatPosse I don’t claim to be an expert, genius. But I know what sounds good and this sounds good.
The “high and mighty” comment you wrote makes it sound like you think you know something you obviously don’t. This might sound good to you but it doesn’t to most people who actually know metal. Next time you comment on anyone’s video make sure you put yourself were your belong and say “I am not an expert but I like this” before claiming to have an authorized opinion about it, that way you won’t come across like an asshole, genius.
@@PatPosse you’re the asshole, you wanna be. You’re just jealous that you never hit it big so you criticize the biggest metal band in the world.
Biggest metal band? for sure. Wannabe? nope, I am what I want to be and I play what and how I want to play. Never jealous of this band, in fact, they've always been an inspiration but shoot me if I ever record a solo this shitty.
Having heard this song 4 times now.. It's dreary and Drab.. It's terrible.. With Kirk being extremely lazy. The other two songs.. No.. Especially that Suicide song.. No. Metallica are at stalemate. Bob Rock is not there to Challenge Kirk. Am not excited about this album. Recently I went back to Death Magnetic.. Having only heard it twice when it came out.. I went back to it.. No.. Drab and Un interesting. Hardwired to me is awful.. Absolutely not. The title track to Hardwired was maybe the worst Metal song I've heard.
The last great Metallica album was St Anger... And Lulu is terrific.. Heard it for the first time a year ago.. Great album. I bought St Anger the day it was released. Heard it twice.. Couldn't connect.. Then disconnected from Metallica for many years. A year ago.. Decided to Re visit(no pun intended) St Anger.. As it has a terrible reputation online.. Here on youtube. I went in with no expectation.. Prepared to not like it.. I had no reason to like St Anger. I pressed play and the journey was smooth sailing.. In fact some of the songs were familiar to me. It was a great listen.. A great flawless album. I listen to St Anger semi regularly. As for Load and Re load.. I had a listen to them both after not having heard them in 20 years.. Meh.. They are Ok.. But I have trouble getting through them.. Less trouble with Re load.. But still No.
More recently went back to the Black album.. Yeah.. Interesting.. Though have trouble getting all the way through it.
After Jason left.. I disconnected from Metallica completely.. Never liked Rob.. Never will. Yeah.. Have seen a couple of his interviews.. He seems cool.. But just No.
For me St Anger is their best album.. It's my preferred to go to.
This song.. I thought about it and what it reminded me of. Slither.. Velvet Revolver. Also this song is very much in the sense of Load and Re load. Kirk being the weakest link.
That's the cool thing about music, St. Anger is still my least favorite Metallica Album (after lulu)... this one is shaping up to be a close second hahaha. I miss Jason too.
Kirk's solo is unfortunate, it annoys me, it ends up destroying a mediocre and predictable song with overcooked riffs.
YES TO ALL YOU'VE JUST SAID. Bumming hard here man... I was rooting for them!!
New producer needed for solos. Since Greg came in they’ve sucked.
TOTALLY. They need to do something!
It was fine. Solid song. Too many sooks out there.
It Could’ve been alot Better. I Think I could’ve made this Song Better.
I haven't heard you play and STILL I think you could have!
Nah man, it ain't.
I'm an amateur songwriter but I can tell you it's the laziest and most washed out songwriting ever. Riffs, rythm and structure are basic as hell and they drag out for no fucking reason... this song would have been bad even if it was 3 minutes long.
@@Taylor-ou7xp My man. Truer words were never spoken. Truly uninspired and WAY too repetitive and drawn out... They need to get a real producer involved again...
@@PatPosse yeah
I respect your opinion. I personally like this song although it could've been trimmed down. We still have 9 songs to listen to. Hopefully there will be some true thrashers that will surprise us all. Inamorata has me curious.
Yeah it would have been more solid had it been shorter. I hope the other songs Rock!
I thought the solo was OK. Kirk is definitely the weak link. Thankfully Metallica is one of the few bands better live than on the studio.
I also think the album will be great. It has a lot of atmosphere.
Let’s hope so!!
Yeah heavy editing is needed. Kirk just needs to be removed and give me some more riffage. Kirks solos are terrible now. They make no sense
It makes no sense that they don’t tell him to buckle down and try again lol !
Makes sense. Except this times there’s (awful) solos!
@@benjamindavis4974 Damn, he beat me to the punch. I was thinking about making a vide like that. They way the song should have been
hate the album cover, lux have me dissapointed, screaming was one of the worst Metallica songs of all time, AND this song Is one of the most boring, this album is bad already with this songs
i saw live last year and the Golden era songs they played 10/10 why they can't do an album like that?
I’m with you brother!! They just need someone to take the bull by the horns!
Yea .. that's the thing about art man . I like new metallica.
And that’s totally acceptable 😉. You get to enjoy one more album than I do! 😁
@@PatPosse 😄 yea man . 👍🏻 but I do get your points I been a metal and metallica fan for almost 20 years .
Nice. Like a man! 🤘🏻. See how people can get along ? 🤣
Tardaron 30 años en darse cuenta que Metallica estaba haciendo pura caca?
Varios todavía no se enteraron…
@@PatPosse De un tiempo a esta parte, Metallica se convirtieron en una orquesta de casamientos, tocando covers de otra banda... Que alguna vez fueron. Dejaron de ser artistas hace tiempo, todos sus coetáneos thrashers en los últimos años sacaron material muchísimo más digno, incluído el disco más flojo de Megadeth.
Totalmente de acuerdo! Banda tributo a Metalica con tres miembros originales!
Definitely seems like it’s a step in the wrong direction. Too many songs, too long, uninspired art work, uninspired arrangements. Does not bode well.
Yeah man, it sucks... I did like Hardwired but this is bad. I hope they have some cool stuff up their sleeves...
Oh I don't like that basedrum hes a Lars hater.................FO.......
You obviously haven’t watched the whole video and decided to talk shit after one sentence that triggered you. That’s the internet and ignorant people for you… 🤦🏻♂️. Walk on home boy.
Last Lars good drum was in 91' now Is the Phill Rud of metal
Hahahaha nice!
Rock and or Roll??. Definitely ain't Heavy Metal....
Im with you. Lame-ass song…
Definitely is very heavy metal
screaming suicide was a good song but this is way too long and repetitive. it could ended 3 minutes. it had so much potential but metallica is ruining it by over simplifying it.
Totally. It would have been a more solid track if they had trimmed some of the fat! Also, the video is pretty boring as well, maybe some better imagery would have helped it not be as monotonous