We seriously need some stab innovation. Or just a whole new reinvention of stabilizers. It's the single most worst aspect of the keyboard building process.
@@charb6346 Unfortunately for me, I had little no success with plumber's mod, for 7u stabs at least. I've tried with a thin layer, with thicker layer, with extra lube, with half assed attempt with wire balancing, but the tick still prevailed. I even did it with holee mod, and had no success. I don't think any mod can get rid of ticking for 7u wires if the wire is just shit.
you really saved myself from a self destructive state of trying to figure to get rid of the rattle. I've finally achieved a perfect spacebar. thank you
Great video. A lot of people don’t realize that overtime, lube (especially 205g0) will slowly start to move down and collect under wire which will eventually leave nothing to dampen the wire slamming into the top of the housing and ticking which is why the holee or epsi mod are 100% worth it the trouble imo.
@@igieswainebragt If you see any of 3ildcats videos I learned from just copying him! but you can just put the stab wire on anything flat and just gently hit the wire in the bent areas to try and get it as straight as possible. It takes a little time but the results are almost always worth it if ur wires are a lil curved
Do you have any experience with 7u wires? If so, does wire balancing eliminate ticking? Because I've tried everything from the holee mod to wire balancing and I just can't get my 7u wires to stop ticking.
Really interesting way to fix the age-old problem of ticking! Wish I found this before I committed to wire balancing everything. The video was really well-thought out and explained very thoroughly, although I felt like it would've been nice if you had explained what putting the cotton/band-aid under the wire was supposed to do (around the 1:50 mark) - I assume it balances the wire in the sense where both sides are now essentially "raised"? Overall I think it's a solid mod especially for people who are just getting into the hobby or like you said, don't want to deal with wire balancing or spend more $$$ but also for people already in the hobby who just want extra assurance that their stabs won't make any unnecessary noises. Cheers!
Thanks for the feedback! Yes, the idea is that the bandage adds a cushion before either side of the wire can hit the plastic and create the "tick." Balancing wires is probably a better long-term solution, but I wanted something that would work quickly and without a lot of careful tuning.
As someone who is literally about to tear their board apart and mod it completely for the first time I'm really glad this came to my recommendations. This is my first board and if it sounds as good as I'm hoping I think I'm going to be in trouble...
For the past few weeks I've been trying to fix my rattling space bar noise but nothing worked. So I figured out since I can't do a 3ildcat styled metal bar stabilizing, I decided to give this tutorial a shot. Although both Hamaji Neo and this tutorial didn't helped much, the methods reduced the noise by at least 60%. Finally what worked for me was to shaft a lot of little pieces of band aids underneath the housing of both stabilizers, and it finally cured my keyboard cancer. Although it reduced the thocckiness of the spacebar, but darn I'm so happy now that I don't have to live with life-triggering OCD. Big thanks to you and Hamaji for the tutorial! (Update: Few days later, the issue resurfaced. And guess what? Turns out it was an unknown issue with my switches. I feel like killing myself even though the issue is finally resolved.)
So far this fix has worked for Akko screw-in stabs and the ticking is no more on my spacebar! I noticed that the holee mod was looked down on by a lot of people and even I was thinking that my spacebar would get all mushy and inconsistent. I guess I used a thin enough bandaid because I am not getting any of those issues! Hopefully your fix lasts for a long time, thank you so much!!!
The other thing that I find helps (and has helped other people) is to hold up the stab with a toothpick when attaching the key. Then press down on the other side of the stab rather than pressing in the middle over the switch. This seems to help it balance and not "tick" when you touch the keycap. This is particularly effective for the spacebar, that tends to suffer it the worst.
I've built a few keyboards and here are some of my experiences: 1) you can apply MULTIPLE layers of holeemod. it doesn't have to be only one layer. personally, I feel two layers of holee mod is the max limit. anything above that you'll find the wire get's stuck and the stab won't come up 2) most of the rattling stabs I've encountered are caused by bent wire. after straighten out the wire I was able to completely get rid of the rattles. The methods introduced in the video won't work if your wire is greatly bent. (by greatly I mean 1 - 2mm off of the surface) 3) Sometimes stab rattles can solely be eliminated by adding excessive amount of lube. (by excessive I mean more than normal but not over lubed). 4) lastly, modify stabs takes time and patience. When I was building my space 65, I spent 3 hours on straightening out a SINGLE stab wire... and yes, do use cushioning between the pliers otherwise it will chip the surface of the stab wires, This gets worse with holeemod since the chipped part doesn't glide smoothly anymore and it gets stuck on the bandit... '
I completely agree with the dude from the comments who said that we should somehow improve the design of stabilizers, or just a completely new invention of stabilizers. This is such a hemorrhoid, why not make a conditional holee mod from the factory with a thin layer of silicone?? Why is no manufacturer doing anything to fix this huge problem
I bought a pack of Command Poster Strips (the white padded looking ones) and did this. I like it a little more than the bandaids because they Adhesive is on both sides, The padding is the perfect height, and one strip can can be used on every stabilizer on the board.
you are actually a lifesaver. i tried everything, bought new stabs, used more lube, but the ticking won't go away. slap a bandaid under the wire, GONE. TYSM
Thank you for this video! I have this exact problem. After spending hours and hours modding, lubing, researching and spending close to $1,000 on different keyboard builds in search for a truly rattle and tick free space bar, I finally gave up. I holee modded every stab and lubed and still get small ticks and rattle on my space bar. I finally had the realization that I have spent 20+ hours working on this to get the same infuriating result. I realized I spend more time building keyboards than I do using my pc or gaming which is the whole reason I wanted to build a custom keyboard with lubed switches. I went back to my old stock G915 and Ducky one 2 mini and started gaming again. Life is now less stressful and I actually spend time using my pc instead of obsessing over some rattle in my keyboard. The reality is, you use headphones so you really don’t hear your keyboard anyway so just use a stock prebuilt board. It will save you thousands of dollars and hours of frustration.
I just want to say the intro sounded too good to be to true-- even started disassembling my board before the vid was over! I legit tried every mod (like you mention) that came up in a search. But, my goodness, thank you so much for this. This mod, with lubing and holee mod, has eradicated my spacebar ticking (I've been suffering for like 8+ months)! It isn't a surefire fix though, as my enter key still has some minor ticking, but that's probably due to some other reason. My spacebar troubles are gone
Thanks for this, the pad under the spacebar didn't actually stop my ticking but made me go back and look at my spacebar. The actual cause was that the stab screws weren't tight enough, just an ever so slight amount of slack caused some real bad ticking
First you flex on me with your Stabilizer knowledge, then you flex on me with your loving relationship with your wife. I can only be destroyed so much in one sitting. mercy plis
When I first got into the hobby, I had picked up a Corsair K70 with the most disgusting stabilizers I'd known (until I got a Massdrop CTRL lolol). My solution at the time was to pinch off tiny tufts of loosely formed foam (bigger air pockets and less dense) and center that over the ends of each bar to cushion it from impacting any plastic. It made a world of difference and didn't change the feel as long as I didn't use too much. It stiffened the spacebar up a tad so it wouldn't wobble and smoothed out the downstroke, so I'm really surprised nothing that follows that same principal is a thing I've seen done by anyone else.
oh, thank god, someone finally finds the right answer to this question, my right shift and backspace has this problem and it's irritating me. thank you so much!
I didn't have enough fabric bandaid and dont know why I didn't go with the plastic ones but I gave double side tape a shot and it works. I left the top cover of course but my spacebar is rattle free now. Thank you!
legendary video. spent a bunch of money on a new keeb and my spacebar sounded terrible, after this video my spacebar sounds absolutely perfect. no rattle or ticking
ive actually tried all this method but for me, the easiest way was to insert small piece of deskey film leftover in one side of the stem inside the keycap. its really simples and effective. once i want to sell the keycaps, I just take it out with tweezers and its done
This has got to be the most life saving video of all time I have been fucking around with my GMMK pro for the last 2 months trying to do things to fix the stabs, ordered a new set of durock v2s and then did all of this and now I have no rattle, granted I didn't have any 205g0 and had to use dielectric grease very lightly it still has not rattle and it makes me feel a lot better about this purchase thank you!!!!
I've spent way too long fiddling with the stabs/spacebar trying to remove the tick on my Alt Drop. Because of this video I can finally give my OCD a break because it's perfect now. Thank you for making this video!
@@LukeMason I used stock, durockV2, AND Zeal (all plate mount) but none worked so that's when I decided it was either a spacebar problem or the plate. Glad to know there was a solution. Thanks again :)
Cool trick/faster way to do this is to just use the PE foam mod, but don't cut out space for the wires (but still cut out space for the stab housings). The PE foam will effectively act the same way as the bandaid in this video and fill the gap between the PCB and the wire of the stabilizer.
I just want to say thank you x1000000000. You saved me from insanity. This worked for me. Ultimately it was the bandaid under the spacebar stabs that did it for me.
You talk about permanently solving the ticking... ... but it feels like you just put a band-aid on the problem. In all seriousness, thank you so much for making this video. My keyboard (ASUS Azoth) sound great to my ear, except for the spacebar. I used a tape mod to make it sound less hollow but it still ticks and it's driving me nuts. It's exactly as you say: one side must be unbalanced because only the left side of the spacebar ticks. I'll give your solution a try.
thank god this video exist im so annoyed by the rattle sound and i dont know how to fix cause my stablelizer is straight but i still have the rattle sound and then after watching this video it really help a lot
Oh man, this is a godsent. I didn't know that it was ticking instead of rattle. I literally stopped using my keyboard because the ticking drives me nuts. I'm not sure if it's the first or second kind. I think it's the first. But I guess I'll have to open this thing up now anyway
Why aren't keyboard companies doing this themselves or improving their engineering to eliminate these things? I don't mind working on my things but nowadays companies usually pick up these things and "fix/change" their production to address these things for the customer. I think it could probably be that not enough people are asking for it. I have fallen in love with these custom keyboard video in the past few weeks and will eventually get into custom keyboards myself. Gotta get em' thoccs! :)
I've been looking for the solution to this for months, I'm losing my mind trying to figure out where's the ticking coming from and nothing helped. Thanks for the explanation and solution!
adding some dialetric grease helped a ton and actually got rid of it, but kept comming back. Add more, came back, add more... oh crap now my stabs are slow. So now I'll have to take it all apart to remove and clean the stabs, so I hope to try this and see how it goes. I saw some negatives for the holee mod saying it can come loose easy so its not a good long term solution, so I would probably try the pipe thread tape instead.
Give this man a noble I was about to pay 20 bucks on new stabilizers or gonna return my new keyboard but it took me 1 hour of work and now it is sounding like a 200 buck keyboard 👍❤️
Thanks for the video! Spacebar ticking was driving me insane, and I haven't found any posts or videos diving deep into the issue. I managed to fix my spacebar with wire balancing, but still it was quite hard to balance precisely, I just got lucky at some point with a good enough bend. But rest of my stabs were still ticking, so I decided to try your method + holee mod, and it did solve the issue for all the keys! The stabs do feel rather stiff though - I'll have to see if they become better after some break-in period.
THANK YOU SO MUCH! You deserve a million more subscribers for helping us fix this LOL My spacebar has been driving me CRAZY with all the ticking and this fixed it so well! ❤
Tbh the plumbers mod solved my ticking probems. I apply the teflon tape on the wire where the stab clip and wire meet as well as the ends (i prefer this than holee mod as i think its more durable in the long run rather than a single strip of band aid. After applying the tape, i then apply molykote grease on the ends of the wire where the plumbers tape are. I wrap the teflon tape about 3-4 times on each wire end and 2-3 on the wire where it hits the clip. If it feels a little slugging, dont worry, spam it for 10 minutes and it is golden. This is what i have done for my wooting 60he and i have no rattles whatsoever.
Basically this is conformation that it is a misaligned wire. So the "clean" way would be to learn how to balance wires. For me using bandaids in a several hundred dollar keyboard build just doesn't sit right. Your explanation of what causes the tick however was very very thorough and well explained. Thank you.
I come here a year later to thank you for this video. I got another keyboard and the Spacebar and Enter keys were ticking. Now they are functioning just right.
Thank you so much for this video! I can't emphasize enough how much I hate tuning stabilizers. I tried out the holee mod, thinking it would fix all my problems (which it did), but I ended up doing it only on my spacebar because it's so damn difficult to do. The results were good, but nothing amazing. After finding this video, I paired your mod with the shrink wrap mod and my problems were instantly gone. It yielded the exact same results as the holee mod with less trouble. Really can't thank you enough.
i'm not sure what exactly fixed my keyboard's spacebar ticking, but it is fixed and sounds better now. I know i watched someone building a custom keyboard and i followed his turtorial and it worked. What he did was add tape/i used bandages on the stabilizer holes on the plate and making the stabilizers tight, which fixed my problem . . . I also used a different, much better brand of lube aswell but i am pretty sure that tape mod thingy fixed it.
One of the fixes i found personally, was to put bandaids inside the holes of the keycaps. In my case, the rattling was being caused by keycaps going down too deep and forcing the stabs to go up too much
just did your mod + holee mod on my GMMK Compact (actually pretty hard to do since the stabs are plate mount and not PCB screwed, so you have to have some very small pliers on hand to get it under the plate), and it completely fixed my spacebar which was ticking like hell ! thank you for this video !
My stabs are clip ons, so I couldn't do it with the stabs installed, the holee mod made my spacebar get stuck and not bounce back up. I tried only wrapping bandaid around the wire and it worked, but it made my spacebar super mushy. I figured it must be because my bandaid was too thick, so I removed it and replaced with washi tape (I didn't have anything else on hand, except duck tape and I wasn't gonna use something so heavy duty) and it worked. The spacebar is still clacky, but at least it doesn't rattle and it doesn't tick anymore. The ticking was really driving me crazy. This is my first mechanical keyboard and it was prebuilt.
Oh my god thank you so much for this! I just got a new SILENT keyboard but the space bar had this absolutely atrocious ticking sound... and thanks to this I was able to fix it!! Thank you!
3:00 I am actually in love with the way your keyboard sounds and it keeps coming back to me may i please know your build specs or ANYTHING I found my dream clackk
Pretty simple build, honestly. I'm using a KBDFans 5 degree case, DZ60RGB-ANSI V2 pcb, lubed and holee/mason modded GMK screw in stabs, lubed and filmed Gateron yellows (black housing), and some generic pbt doubleshot keycaps from aliexpress.
I use costar type stabs in most of my keyboards, and I think the First part Will be enought to help me (no holee mod needed, thankfully). Thanks a lot, I'll try and after that I'll share the results here.
First of all, I wanted to say thanks for the great video! I did this on my spacebar stab and it removed all the rattle. However, I have some questions. Did this mod also cause a reduction in volume and/or a slightly softer feeling? My spacebar is not mushy by any means, but it certainly feels dampened, and I feel like the same could be said about my spacebar. It's a retooled black switch, and before the mods it was louder compared to how it is now. Regardless, this is still a great video and really helpful for eliminating rattle!
Performing the Holee mod with fabric bandaids can absolutely cause a mushy or dampened feeling. Breaking the stabs in can help, but what I did is use a thinner plastic rather than fabric for my mod. I don't think it affects the feel much at all for me, but YMMV.
@@LukeMason Thank you very much! I've been using it for a few hours and I've also found that it isn't as big a difference as I once thought it was, and if there is any difference I'd say that it's negligible if it means these stabs don't rattle again or as frequently. Great job once again on the video and discovery of the mod!
I will definitely try out the Mason mod the next time I fiddle around with my stabilizers. They have yet to be perfected. However, I would like to advise against using the Holee mod in some instances due to (in my experience) stabilizers becoming either too mushy or scratchy in sound. Obviously, bandaid varieties decide what a stabilizer will feel and sound like. I suppose the ones I've tried just haven't really worked that well.
I have the exact same experience and I've got my own fix. Did tons of research and testing and finally found something that really worked on cherry screw in stabs, and will test on durock v2s very soon. Too bad I don't have experience in making videos for a tutorial;-;
I should add that this also doesn't make the key mushy at all, unlike all holee mod variants that actually mute the ticking, I found all of them at least muting the top out if not also the bottom out, to various degrees.
@@LukeMason In short, I used two types of very specific thin af transparent band aid strips, one on the bottom and one on the top of the inner stem hole, which were the exact thickness to fill in the gap and to prevent wire-to-stem ticking sound, but not to make the key feel mushy. I haven't really had the issue of wire-to-housing ticking, I simply inject a bunch of lube right under where the wire bends, which seemed to easily do the trick.
I was building a new board with Durock stabs and it was still rattling even with holee mod, I'm going to try this right now since I'm still assembling it and I really don't want to take off my stabs to re-tune.
this helped a great deal on backspace, shifts, and enter. i put two such pads under the spacebar wire but the spacebar feels a little bit mushy now. not NEARLY as bad as the holee mod makes it feel, so i'll take it.
Are you god? This is the very thing I have been searching for all my life. Too bad I don't want to take apart my current keeb so I'll do it on my next one.
Thanks so much for the kind words. This video was made on a whim because I found so little help online for my ticking problem. I'm glad it's been received so well. I don't have a lot of money to get into the keyboard hobby at the moment. I have only built one. But hey, maybe I'll find another idea to make a video on sometime soon. Thanks again!
@Luke Mason Im still learning too. I just watch a video with Shoobs and Glarses...they referred to using anything but lube is strange; lube is weird enough....they considered the holee mod a "skill issue".
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This is great! Thank you for the credit too ❤️
I’m definitely gonna try these out on my stabilisers soon :)
Honored to be visited by the man himself. Thanks for dropping by!
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sheeesh hamaji neo is a cool dude, supports a channel with 500 subs
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We seriously need some stab innovation. Or just a whole new reinvention of stabilizers. It's the single most worst aspect of the keyboard building process.
Agreed!
pretty sure a brand was making a proto of staebies, tempest has a vid on them with dry wires
@@CharTC I'm well aware of those. But those are protos. We have yet to get our hands on the production unit.
@@abe5156 hope they come out soon, need those
@@charb6346 Unfortunately for me, I had little no success with plumber's mod, for 7u stabs at least. I've tried with a thin layer, with thicker layer, with extra lube, with half assed attempt with wire balancing, but the tick still prevailed. I even did it with holee mod, and had no success. I don't think any mod can get rid of ticking for 7u wires if the wire is just shit.
BRO. I THOUGHT MY STABS WERE TICKING, its my NAILS LMAOOO
you really saved myself from a self destructive state of trying to figure to get rid of the rattle. I've finally achieved a perfect spacebar. thank you
Glad you got it working for you!
Great video. A lot of people don’t realize that overtime, lube (especially 205g0) will slowly start to move down and collect under wire which will eventually leave nothing to dampen the wire slamming into the top of the housing and ticking which is why the holee or epsi mod are 100% worth it the trouble imo.
since i always do some wire balancing on my stabs, ive actually never ran into the ticking problem, but very well done video explaining the solution!
how'd you do it? and how long would it usually take to balance wires? Doing stabs makes me wanna quit this hobby lol
@@igieswainebragt If you see any of 3ildcats videos I learned from just copying him! but you can just put the stab wire on anything flat and just gently hit the wire in the bent areas to try and get it as straight as possible. It takes a little time but the results are almost always worth it if ur wires are a lil curved
Do you have any experience with 7u wires? If so, does wire balancing eliminate ticking? Because I've tried everything from the holee mod to wire balancing and I just can't get my 7u wires to stop ticking.
@@hiroryk9941 is it in all of his build videos? or do you have any videos that specifically portray this rly well
Kudos on inventing your own mod and giving so many other people credit along the way brother! Lovely watch
Really interesting way to fix the age-old problem of ticking! Wish I found this before I committed to wire balancing everything.
The video was really well-thought out and explained very thoroughly, although I felt like it would've been nice if you had explained what putting the cotton/band-aid under the wire was supposed to do (around the 1:50 mark) - I assume it balances the wire in the sense where both sides are now essentially "raised"?
Overall I think it's a solid mod especially for people who are just getting into the hobby or like you said, don't want to deal with wire balancing or spend more $$$ but also for people already in the hobby who just want extra assurance that their stabs won't make any unnecessary noises.
Cheers!
Thanks for the feedback! Yes, the idea is that the bandage adds a cushion before either side of the wire can hit the plastic and create the "tick." Balancing wires is probably a better long-term solution, but I wanted something that would work quickly and without a lot of careful tuning.
As someone who is literally about to tear their board apart and mod it completely for the first time I'm really glad this came to my recommendations. This is my first board and if it sounds as good as I'm hoping I think I'm going to be in trouble...
For the past few weeks I've been trying to fix my rattling space bar noise but nothing worked. So I figured out since I can't do a 3ildcat styled metal bar stabilizing, I decided to give this tutorial a shot. Although both Hamaji Neo and this tutorial didn't helped much, the methods reduced the noise by at least 60%. Finally what worked for me was to shaft a lot of little pieces of band aids underneath the housing of both stabilizers, and it finally cured my keyboard cancer. Although it reduced the thocckiness of the spacebar, but darn I'm so happy now that I don't have to live with life-triggering OCD. Big thanks to you and Hamaji for the tutorial!
(Update: Few days later, the issue resurfaced. And guess what? Turns out it was an unknown issue with my switches. I feel like killing myself even though the issue is finally resolved.)
So far this fix has worked for Akko screw-in stabs and the ticking is no more on my spacebar!
I noticed that the holee mod was looked down on by a lot of people and even I was thinking that my spacebar would get all mushy and inconsistent. I guess I used a thin enough bandaid because I am not getting any of those issues! Hopefully your fix lasts for a long time, thank you so much!!!
The other thing that I find helps (and has helped other people) is to hold up the stab with a toothpick when attaching the key. Then press down on the other side of the stab rather than pressing in the middle over the switch. This seems to help it balance and not "tick" when you touch the keycap. This is particularly effective for the spacebar, that tends to suffer it the worst.
I've built a few keyboards and here are some of my experiences:
1) you can apply MULTIPLE layers of holeemod. it doesn't have to be only one layer. personally, I feel two layers of holee mod is the max limit. anything above that you'll find the wire get's stuck and the stab won't come up
2) most of the rattling stabs I've encountered are caused by bent wire. after straighten out the wire I was able to completely get rid of the rattles. The methods introduced in the video won't work if your wire is greatly bent. (by greatly I mean 1 - 2mm off of the surface)
3) Sometimes stab rattles can solely be eliminated by adding excessive amount of lube. (by excessive I mean more than normal but not over lubed).
4) lastly, modify stabs takes time and patience. When I was building my space 65, I spent 3 hours on straightening out a SINGLE stab wire... and yes, do use cushioning between the pliers otherwise it will chip the surface of the stab wires, This gets worse with holeemod since the chipped part doesn't glide smoothly anymore and it gets stuck on the bandit... '
I completely agree with the dude from the comments who said that we should somehow improve the design of stabilizers, or just a completely new invention of stabilizers. This is such a hemorrhoid, why not make a conditional holee mod from the factory with a thin layer of silicone?? Why is no manufacturer doing anything to fix this huge problem
I bought a pack of Command Poster Strips (the white padded looking ones) and did this. I like it a little more than the bandaids because they Adhesive is on both sides, The padding is the perfect height, and one strip can can be used on every stabilizer on the board.
Sounds like it works pretty well. Nice.
you are actually a lifesaver. i tried everything, bought new stabs, used more lube, but the ticking won't go away. slap a bandaid under the wire, GONE. TYSM
Thank you for this video! I have this exact problem. After spending hours and hours modding, lubing, researching and spending close to $1,000 on different keyboard builds in search for a truly rattle and tick free space bar, I finally gave up. I holee modded every stab and lubed and still get small ticks and rattle on my space bar. I finally had the realization that I have spent 20+ hours working on this to get the same infuriating result. I realized I spend more time building keyboards than I do using my pc or gaming which is the whole reason I wanted to build a custom keyboard with lubed switches. I went back to my old stock G915 and Ducky one 2 mini and started gaming again. Life is now less stressful and I actually spend time using my pc instead of obsessing over some rattle in my keyboard. The reality is, you use headphones so you really don’t hear your keyboard anyway so just use a stock prebuilt board. It will save you thousands of dollars and hours of frustration.
I just want to say the intro sounded too good to be to true-- even started disassembling my board before the vid was over! I legit tried every mod (like you mention) that came up in a search. But, my goodness, thank you so much for this. This mod, with lubing and holee mod, has eradicated my spacebar ticking (I've been suffering for like 8+ months)! It isn't a surefire fix though, as my enter key still has some minor ticking, but that's probably due to some other reason. My spacebar troubles are gone
So glad it helped!
Thanks for this, the pad under the spacebar didn't actually stop my ticking but made me go back and look at my spacebar. The actual cause was that the stab screws weren't tight enough, just an ever so slight amount of slack caused some real bad ticking
I have this and always thought it was me doing a poor job lubing. I will try this out, Thanks in advance
Hope it works for you!
First you flex on me with your Stabilizer knowledge, then you flex on me with your loving relationship with your wife. I can only be destroyed so much in one sitting. mercy plis
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When I first got into the hobby, I had picked up a Corsair K70 with the most disgusting stabilizers I'd known (until I got a Massdrop CTRL lolol). My solution at the time was to pinch off tiny tufts of loosely formed foam (bigger air pockets and less dense) and center that over the ends of each bar to cushion it from impacting any plastic. It made a world of difference and didn't change the feel as long as I didn't use too much. It stiffened the spacebar up a tad so it wouldn't wobble and smoothed out the downstroke, so I'm really surprised nothing that follows that same principal is a thing I've seen done by anyone else.
oh, thank god, someone finally finds the right answer to this question, my right shift and backspace has this problem and it's irritating me.
thank you so much!
I didn't have enough fabric bandaid and dont know why I didn't go with the plastic ones but I gave double side tape a shot and it works. I left the top cover of course but my spacebar is rattle free now. Thank you!
legendary video. spent a bunch of money on a new keeb and my spacebar sounded terrible, after this video my spacebar sounds absolutely perfect. no rattle or ticking
I'm glad it worked for you!
ive actually tried all this method but for me, the easiest way was to insert small piece of deskey film leftover in one side of the stem inside the keycap. its really simples and effective. once i want to sell the keycaps, I just take it out with tweezers and its done
This has got to be the most life saving video of all time I have been fucking around with my GMMK pro for the last 2 months trying to do things to fix the stabs, ordered a new set of durock v2s and then did all of this and now I have no rattle, granted I didn't have any 205g0 and had to use dielectric grease very lightly it still has not rattle and it makes me feel a lot better about this purchase thank you!!!!
You're welcome!
I've spent way too long fiddling with the stabs/spacebar trying to remove the tick on my Alt Drop. Because of this video I can finally give my OCD a break because it's perfect now. Thank you for making this video!
Glad it worked! I'm making a follow up video testing the TX stabilizers, which actually ended up being a great solution as well.
@@LukeMason I used stock, durockV2, AND Zeal (all plate mount) but none worked so that's when I decided it was either a spacebar problem or the plate. Glad to know there was a solution. Thanks again :)
man, idk how to thank you. i tried EVERYTHING. and this simple mod that takes like 2 minutes to do solved all my problems.
Glad it worked!
Cool trick/faster way to do this is to just use the PE foam mod, but don't cut out space for the wires (but still cut out space for the stab housings).
The PE foam will effectively act the same way as the bandaid in this video and fill the gap between the PCB and the wire of the stabilizer.
This video saved my keyboard from going into the wall 😅 Thank you, man!
I just want to say thank you x1000000000. You saved me from insanity. This worked for me. Ultimately it was the bandaid under the spacebar stabs that did it for me.
You talk about permanently solving the ticking...
... but it feels like you just put a band-aid on the problem.
In all seriousness, thank you so much for making this video. My keyboard (ASUS Azoth) sound great to my ear, except for the spacebar. I used a tape mod to make it sound less hollow but it still ticks and it's driving me nuts. It's exactly as you say: one side must be unbalanced because only the left side of the spacebar ticks. I'll give your solution a try.
thank god this video exist im so annoyed by the rattle sound and i dont know how to fix cause my stablelizer is straight but i still have the rattle sound and then after watching this video it really help a lot
Oh man, this is a godsent. I didn't know that it was ticking instead of rattle. I literally stopped using my keyboard because the ticking drives me nuts. I'm not sure if it's the first or second kind. I think it's the first. But I guess I'll have to open this thing up now anyway
Haven’t tried but I can feel this could be the end of my struggling with stab mod. Thank you so much !!!
I needed this video today. Thank you UA-cam algorithm for showing me this video!
Dude thank you this tick has been annoying me for over a year now and its finally gone you are amazing
My space bar is so smooth now, thx a lot for this! 3h of my life well spent.
I hadn't considered the wire might not be resting evenly on both clips... it makes sense now. Great video!
Why aren't keyboard companies doing this themselves or improving their engineering to eliminate these things?
I don't mind working on my things but nowadays companies usually pick up these things and "fix/change" their production to address these things for the customer. I think it could probably be that not enough people are asking for it.
I have fallen in love with these custom keyboard video in the past few weeks and will eventually get into custom keyboards myself.
Gotta get em' thoccs! :)
You sire, are an absolute god for posting this.
Thanks! Hope it helped.
i have needed a solution to this for a long time, very happy to finally see this
You're a god. I faced the problem myself and waited 3 months for GMK to send over a single cap.
I've been looking for the solution to this for months, I'm losing my mind trying to figure out where's the ticking coming from and nothing helped. Thanks for the explanation and solution!
Glad it worked for you!
adding some dialetric grease helped a ton and actually got rid of it, but kept comming back. Add more, came back, add more... oh crap now my stabs are slow.
So now I'll have to take it all apart to remove and clean the stabs, so I hope to try this and see how it goes. I saw some negatives for the holee mod saying it can come loose easy so its not a good long term solution, so I would probably try the pipe thread tape instead.
Give this man a noble I was about to pay 20 bucks on new stabilizers or gonna return my new keyboard but it took me 1 hour of work and now it is sounding like a 200 buck keyboard 👍❤️
Thanks for the video! Spacebar ticking was driving me insane, and I haven't found any posts or videos diving deep into the issue. I managed to fix my spacebar with wire balancing, but still it was quite hard to balance precisely, I just got lucky at some point with a good enough bend. But rest of my stabs were still ticking, so I decided to try your method + holee mod, and it did solve the issue for all the keys! The stabs do feel rather stiff though - I'll have to see if they become better after some break-in period.
Glad it helped!
Just changing to tx stabs in my kbd67 lite just elevated it to a whole new level for me
I'm pretty sure that this video will be viral. Thank you for this tutorial!
Thanks for the video, I ran into this issue tonight, and man it was driving me nuts! now my stabs are as quiet as my switches :)
THANK YOU SO MUCH! You deserve a million more subscribers for helping us fix this LOL My spacebar has been driving me CRAZY with all the ticking and this fixed it so well! ❤
Tbh the plumbers mod solved my ticking probems. I apply the teflon tape on the wire where the stab clip and wire meet as well as the ends (i prefer this than holee mod as i think its more durable in the long run rather than a single strip of band aid. After applying the tape, i then apply molykote grease on the ends of the wire where the plumbers tape are. I wrap the teflon tape about 3-4 times on each wire end and 2-3 on the wire where it hits the clip. If it feels a little slugging, dont worry, spam it for 10 minutes and it is golden. This is what i have done for my wooting 60he and i have no rattles whatsoever.
Basically this is conformation that it is a misaligned wire. So the "clean" way would be to learn how to balance wires. For me using bandaids in a several hundred dollar keyboard build just doesn't sit right. Your explanation of what causes the tick however was very very thorough and well explained. Thank you.
I come here a year later to thank you for this video. I got another keyboard and the Spacebar and Enter keys were ticking. Now they are functioning just right.
Glad to hear it!
this guy understood the asssignment
Thank you so much for this video! I can't emphasize enough how much I hate tuning stabilizers. I tried out the holee mod, thinking it would fix all my problems (which it did), but I ended up doing it only on my spacebar because it's so damn difficult to do. The results were good, but nothing amazing.
After finding this video, I paired your mod with the shrink wrap mod and my problems were instantly gone. It yielded the exact same results as the holee mod with less trouble. Really can't thank you enough.
i'm not sure what exactly fixed my keyboard's spacebar ticking, but it is fixed and sounds better now. I know i watched someone building a custom keyboard and i followed his turtorial and it worked. What he did was add tape/i used bandages on the stabilizer holes on the plate and making the stabilizers tight, which fixed my problem . . . I also used a different, much better brand of lube aswell but i am pretty sure that tape mod thingy fixed it.
Glad you got it how you like it!
One of the fixes i found personally, was to put bandaids inside the holes of the keycaps. In my case, the rattling was being caused by keycaps going down too deep and forcing the stabs to go up too much
just did your mod + holee mod on my GMMK Compact (actually pretty hard to do since the stabs are plate mount and not PCB screwed, so you have to have some very small pliers on hand to get it under the plate), and it completely fixed my spacebar which was ticking like hell !
thank you for this video !
Glad to hear it!
@@LukeMason yes I'm glad to hear my spacebar too 🤣
My stabs are clip ons, so I couldn't do it with the stabs installed, the holee mod made my spacebar get stuck and not bounce back up. I tried only wrapping bandaid around the wire and it worked, but it made my spacebar super mushy. I figured it must be because my bandaid was too thick, so I removed it and replaced with washi tape (I didn't have anything else on hand, except duck tape and I wasn't gonna use something so heavy duty) and it worked. The spacebar is still clacky, but at least it doesn't rattle and it doesn't tick anymore. The ticking was really driving me crazy. This is my first mechanical keyboard and it was prebuilt.
Glad you found a solution! I'll have to keep that tape in mind.
Oh my god thank you so much for this!
I just got a new SILENT keyboard but the space bar had this absolutely atrocious ticking sound... and thanks to this I was able to fix it!! Thank you!
3:00 I am actually in love with the way your keyboard sounds and it keeps coming back to me may i please know your build specs or ANYTHING I found my dream clackk
Pretty simple build, honestly. I'm using a KBDFans 5 degree case, DZ60RGB-ANSI V2 pcb, lubed and holee/mason modded GMK screw in stabs, lubed and filmed Gateron yellows (black housing), and some generic pbt doubleshot keycaps from aliexpress.
@@LukeMason tq so much. That would be a great reference for me
I use costar type stabs in most of my keyboards, and I think the First part Will be enought to help me (no holee mod needed, thankfully). Thanks a lot, I'll try and after that I'll share the results here.
Balancing the wires actually didn't help out. Holee mod ends up being too mushy. Your fix alone actually did the job. Thumb up!
holy cow this helped my life. u cleared my skin, put more oxygen in my lungs and solved my failing marriage
Glad to help, I guess.
First of all, I wanted to say thanks for the great video! I did this on my spacebar stab and it removed all the rattle. However, I have some questions. Did this mod also cause a reduction in volume and/or a slightly softer feeling? My spacebar is not mushy by any means, but it certainly feels dampened, and I feel like the same could be said about my spacebar. It's a retooled black switch, and before the mods it was louder compared to how it is now. Regardless, this is still a great video and really helpful for eliminating rattle!
Performing the Holee mod with fabric bandaids can absolutely cause a mushy or dampened feeling. Breaking the stabs in can help, but what I did is use a thinner plastic rather than fabric for my mod. I don't think it affects the feel much at all for me, but YMMV.
@@LukeMason Thank you very much! I've been using it for a few hours and I've also found that it isn't as big a difference as I once thought it was, and if there is any difference I'd say that it's negligible if it means these stabs don't rattle again or as frequently. Great job once again on the video and discovery of the mod!
I bought the stabilizers you recommended and I did all the mods and my keyboard went from sounding like s*** to literally God tier
I will definitely try out the Mason mod the next time I fiddle around with my stabilizers. They have yet to be perfected. However, I would like to advise against using the Holee mod in some instances due to (in my experience) stabilizers becoming either too mushy or scratchy in sound.
Obviously, bandaid varieties decide what a stabilizer will feel and sound like. I suppose the ones I've tried just haven't really worked that well.
dude thank you so much, this helped me so much my stabs sound so good now
I have the exact same experience and I've got my own fix. Did tons of research and testing and finally found something that really worked on cherry screw in stabs, and will test on durock v2s very soon. Too bad I don't have experience in making videos for a tutorial;-;
I should add that this also doesn't make the key mushy at all, unlike all holee mod variants that actually mute the ticking, I found all of them at least muting the top out if not also the bottom out, to various degrees.
@@kurisu0810 What do you do?
@@LukeMason In short, I used two types of very specific thin af transparent band aid strips, one on the bottom and one on the top of the inner stem hole, which were the exact thickness to fill in the gap and to prevent wire-to-stem ticking sound, but not to make the key feel mushy. I haven't really had the issue of wire-to-housing ticking, I simply inject a bunch of lube right under where the wire bends, which seemed to easily do the trick.
i cant believe i just fixed 3 ticking keys with a bandaid….. great content!
OH SHIEETTT YOU SAVED MY LIFE
this man needs more subscribers
worked like a charm for me. Thanks so much for this!❤️
Actually an absolute unit of a person. Big, big appreciation, man. Keep the grind!
I was building a new board with Durock stabs and it was still rattling even with holee mod, I'm going to try this right now since I'm still assembling it and I really don't want to take off my stabs to re-tune.
Hope it helps!
Holy shoot, I was finding a video what exactly is like this, man I love this video and thank you so much for fixing my stabilizers
I'm happy it worked!
this is very brilliant as u have make some research and come up the best solution for the specific problems....THUMBS UPP
Nice. I'm definitely gonna try this out. My spacebar rattles like no other.
this helped a great deal on backspace, shifts, and enter. i put two such pads under the spacebar wire but the spacebar feels a little bit mushy now. not NEARLY as bad as the holee mod makes it feel, so i'll take it.
Thanks for making this video! It was clear, concise and well researched and will be trying this out today.
very comprehensive i love it
I had a ticking semi-mechanical keyboard, this video may be nice for they new owners. Also, good work Luke!
Thanks!
exactly . THIS is the ticking what I wanted to know. Thanks
Now thats what you call a band aid fix
Hey now I have something to use all those leftover band-aid middles for now!
Seriously though thank you for making this video.
No problem!
Can't wait to give this a shot!!!
Also check if the housings fit tight and snugly on their plate sockets. If they don't, they may rattle like hell. That was my case.
this is underated. it works for me! appreciate it. gonna share this video really quick :D
Are you god? This is the very thing I have been searching for all my life. Too bad I don't want to take apart my current keeb so I'll do it on my next one.
I see those cherry casino playing cards and to you I say may your fans be ever smooth
Thank you, good sir.
Short effective video. Thanks for good work
Glad you liked it!
Using this mod all my stabs and on my it’s a blessing. Used the epsi mod instead of the holee since it was too mushy for me
Nice save life time for those trail & error steps :) thanks man !
god please make more video about keyboard. your editing is godlike. i bet u can grow easily with kb videos
Thanks so much for the kind words. This video was made on a whim because I found so little help online for my ticking problem. I'm glad it's been received so well. I don't have a lot of money to get into the keyboard hobby at the moment. I have only built one. But hey, maybe I'll find another idea to make a video on sometime soon. Thanks again!
Wire balancing is a must and fairly basic. It is the solution to the ticking.
I hear you. I just recently made an upgrade to my keyboard (vid coming) and I tried wire balancing for my spacebar. It worked pretty well!
@Luke Mason Im still learning too. I just watch a video with Shoobs and Glarses...they referred to using anything but lube is strange; lube is weird enough....they considered the holee mod a "skill issue".
Very good job mate, I will use this method.
holy shit this really fixed my ticking spacebar even on my budget board with plate mount stabs
Glad it worked!
this guy is soo underrated