@jimbobsarcadeineverkneelbc7503I'll always be rocking a 1050 defense magi, my Merc clone killing eth two upped kelpie snare with an eth rune in it. D clone slows to a crawl, and have eth upped toothrow armor, and help of course is flicker flame or crown of thieves with a ral
Big problem is the job that streamers do. Streamers sell the game for audience. In future when D5 comes, streamers will play it, they like it or not and once again ppl will buy the game. Blizzard will be happy and they can just copy pasta D4 ----> D5 and can spent more time drinking coffee at the office and build up mediocre game just 2 days before launch.
The mere fact that this guy created the affix system and the itemization in d2 is amazing. In my opinion, the itemization and the feeling you get when a GG item drops is what keeps people playing d2 20 years later.
the problem is that the new generations are not liking that, their brains would melt if you told them theres ilvl 85 areas where monsters can drop any item in the game, and that you cant farm specific boss for an item, and that that boss has less then 1/10 droprate for the item they want. they would have a meltdown and quit the game
@@BG1435q yup very true. Gamers and games nowadays provide instant gratification. D3 and d4 are perfect examples of the shift. They just shower you in uniques, set items and legendaries to mask the fact that the game is mediocre
@@jasensantos209Disagree. The fact that they rain items upon you is WHY the game is more mediocre. I Love D3, but the items Feel less worthwhile because they drop so often. Drastically reducing drop rates would give that game a better grind and follow-through.
I'm so glad I was born on 1986 and played games on 90s that developers put their hearts into and wanted to make actually good and fun games. Doom, Wolfenstein, Duke Nukem, Half-Life, ofc D1 & D2 etc. Those were the times man :)
They don't care, they are catering to a new crowd now and have bare minimum development minds hence why they add blanket systems like "level scaling" and have designs that are all for micro transactions.
@@Despond exactly, ever notice how d3,d4 and wow have the exact same systems which are often even called the same and are completely interchangeable? like if i said im going to farm renown, or do timed dungeon runs, do dungeons that scale into infinity and look how for i can go, you wouldnt know if im talking about diablo or wow, blizz is creatively bankrupt and is essentialy stealing content from their other games because they cant think of anything new that would define their games
@@LadaHusakLH Yeah, that's the catch. People are still playing those games. Maybe not you or me, maybe not most of the streamers, but there are always enough whales that keep the game running by buying everything. They could hire all these amazing people who put their heart and soul into the game, give them enough time to get creative, and leave out the annoying bullshit lootbox mechanics - and then compare profits with their bland, boring, money squeezing, pay to win version, and come to the conclusion that the latter pays better, so they go with the second option. As sad that it is, this is how most of these companies work. Minimum risk, maximum profit, and the rest doesn't matter.
Thank your mr. Schaefer and the rest classic Diablo team for shaping childhood with your masterpieces! You guys have created an art that should be studied in schools and universities now and in the future! I wish you all the very best from the bottom of my heart!
Mother of GOD. I used to drive by Mt.Diablo in the bay area and go- "Whoa. That mountain's got the same name as Blizzard's Diablo series. That's kinda funny." I CAN'T BELIEVE IT WAS THAT LITERAL MOUNTAIN that one of the dev's wanted to name a video game after. This is crazy.
Wow, this was amazing! Erich if you read this comment, thank you, just thank you. I hope we get more interviews in future. I look forward to the moon beast game. I want to hear more about everything. If I see you randomly in chat I’ll probably thank you again. You are a legend.
Llama has now interviewed David, Max and Erich. Would love to see more interviews with others on the blizzard north team, not just matt uelman, but others like Phil Shenk, Peter Hu, etc.
I posted that while listening to it and was later that Peter and Phil were actually in the chart because they're working with Erich on their new game (which looks pretty cool). Funny that they mentioned Householder too as I saw him at the Portland Retro Gaming Expo last year (with Matt Uelman).
Would love to see them reunite and do again what they did back then. They could name their new game "Lilith" and let Blizz/Acti keep that "Diablo" title and ruin it more and more.
I feel so weird by how incredibly privileged I am to be I'm listening to one of the significant developers/creators/founders/producers of my childhood dream game. So much so that then all the other OG creators joined the live stream too...!!!! Thank you for sharing this Llama, this was inspirational for any game creation aspirer and there is a wealth of knowledge to take away from the discussion. I have so much respect for what these guys created, and so much appreciation for the hard work and detail/passion they put into their games. They didn't make games to make money, they simply made games that were great to play, not corrupted by monetary desire. Take a hint, Blizzard. I can't wait to try Moonbeast's new game. Wishing their entire team the best of luck in their work.
As a live concert audio engineer I totally feel the sentiment of “I don’t know what’s next” which is very telling. I thank you so much for this content .
As an audio engineer who works at home, I don't know how you guys do live shows. Every live guy I've met is a little crazy but I feel like you need to enjoy the wild side of life to get into that line of work 😅 Hats off to you!
It sounds like I am that one guy who actually adored Hellgate: London almost same as D1 and D2 back in the days. That game bares so many beautiful memories for me in a tough period of my life and I remember that I almost enjoyed it same as I did playing D2, and for me, D2 is probably one of my the top 3 games ever made that I played, watched or heard of (and that is from thousands of games during these what almost 30 years)! I do wonder if it would be interesting to play and/or watch that kind of oldie in this new age of games... Hm... Have you ever played it MrLlama?
The reason I like Llama is because he just had a passion for games and does not have a business professional side at all, at least that I can see. Not saying he isn’t professional but like, he’s wearing a D4 shirt, a game he doesn’t even care for anymore, when most of us would wear a D2 shirt talking to a Schaefer lol. That being said Llama you’re a great interviewer, we’ve all said that in your past interviews. You know the history, hear the person talking, and don’t interrupt. D2 will forever go down as my favorite game and for many people here… and Erich thank you for your contribution to this amazing game. Edit: also, Llama, get a silent click mouse and a quieter keyboard maybe for interviews 🤣 they are both super cheap and can be swapped out whenever. I got one for meetings lol.
great interview. as a programmer that started working at Atari (console era), before the home game console industry crash happened, my (early) career really parallels his in many ways. i just wish that i had run in to him in SJ, CA, and put me back on the game programming path again. this brought back a lot of old memories!
I actually really liked Hellgate London! Granted I didnt put that much time into it... but I connected with a ton of my old D2 buds to play it and we had a blast!
Really nice interview! I'm surprised Erich talked about Guild Wars and the Arena Net guys - I played this game so much back in the day and I loved it. So many great ideas and mechanics. Just the fact you had a lot of skills but only equipped a certain amount whenever you went out fighting, is something we see a lot more today.
I didn't know Erich was part of the Hellgate: London team - I agree that what happened to that game was a tragedy, it tried so many different cool things and I think with more time in the oven it would have been one of the best games of its time. For what it's worth, I still loved it.
Llama you are a legend for this and I bet this was quite the experience for to do this interview, and Erich thank you for the best game to ever exist I have enjoyed it and pulled many all nighters playing this masterpiece as a kid and still til this day thank you!!
I have memories watching the credits at the end of D2 and wondering what it must have been like to work with these gods. D2 was a huge inspiration for why I ended up going into software engineering. I hope that one day the source code is made available. I can only imagine the insane engineering it took to make this sprite based game and all of its subsystems... Mr Schaefer, thank you sir.
thank you very much, sir. gave me something to look forward to (coming home from school to play D2) during otherwise crappy teenage years. amazing game.
I love that he actually lurks in there. And I can totally see how nobody would pay attention to the real dev, it's so unfathomable that he would be just a normal person if he was part of such an iconic game. It's pretty nuts that back in the day one guy could've done so much design on the game, today there would be a whole team for a single feature. And he was an artist when he started! Albeit he had so much understanding of the mechanics from childhood already.
Loved hearing him talk about how Game feel is #1 before everything, I couldn’t agree more. In a game, pressing buttons just has to feel good. Pressing jump always has to feel good, movement has to feel responsive and low latency, the feedback when hitting an enemy has to be direct and clear. Game feel is #1 always.
Great talk MrLlama, enjoyed the hell out of it. Moon beast just reminds me at Noita in 3d mixed with a ARPG. Noita is a a banger and just started with the idea of a fun world destruction. I hope Your and Erich ideas bloom.
Great interview, thank you MrLlama! You should also interview Peter Hu and his continuos development of D2 and patch 1.10. Still think that 1.10 must be one of the best patches ever released in gaming history, would love to hear how he convinced the company to spend money on developing patches for and old game
The 2 game I played the most was Diablo 2 and Guild wars 2. Its funny to see that there is things in commun with those 2 franchise. Very nice interview, thanks to you both.
Great interview. To be the man behind the greatest item system is just amazing. D4 really needs to go back to D1 & 2 to fix that. And the new project looks cool!
THANK YOU MR LAMA GOOD INTERVIEW SINCE D2 WAS MY FAV GAME GROWING UP AND STILL PLAY IT TIL THIS DAY THIS IS THE MR LAMA I LIKE TALKING ABOUT D2 HENCE WHY I BEEN FOLLWOING FOR YEARS WAS BECAUSE OF THIS KIND OF CONTENT
Was hoping mr llama would have asked what the original plan was for the “standard of heroes”? Level 90 item dropped from Ubers, that I’d always thought would have been for some form of end game content.
So this is the architect of the loot system in D2? The cause of so much joy (and misery at times :P), guys grinding endlessly for hours searching for Tyrael's, Mang Song's, Ber's, Jah's, etc. Amazing work Erich, you've brought so much joy and entertainment to so many. Brilliant interview, really enjoyed this chat. Thanks for organising Llama
Great interview! Looking forward to seeing more of Moonbeast. It's driving me crazy that I can't tell if he's trolling with the chat gem doing something or not...
Good interviews beget so many more questions. This brought joy to my old bones. Can you link your other interviews in the video description or in the first pinned comment?
It's hilarious that their big moment was also a common hook among players. The Tristram music and art starts the journey but the first time I walked my warrior into the cathedral and destroyed a skeleton at my friends house I was hooked.
I'd like to hear his thoughts on potential unique item changes and the legendary act 4 content that could have been. Was act 4 originally longer? What was thrown out?
How could you not ask about Schaefer's hammer??? My mind is fuzzy but I think that came out before the rune words and it was truly awesome. Then it became way out shadowed. Interview Peter! I like many of the runewords and their concepts. I want to hear his story doing LOD without Schaefer and Brevik
What a great interview, still surprised Llama has not dived into POE. Me personally i coud never get into POE but from the looks of it it’s definitely made for hardcore gamers like llama who could start to master this game. Im hoping POE 2 gets me when it comes out. Also Blizzard please hire these guys even as an advisor or contractor for D4, im sure whatever they suggest would boost the game tremendously.
We need another one of these angels that are obsessed with itemization like this dude right here. With all the new consoles and games, I never thought I would be playing a game from 2001 at this point
I think the Chat Gem does exactly what it is made to do, to make people question if it does anything. I believe it does nothing. But yet, making people wonder is therefore making it do something. So yes, the Chat Gem does both nothing and something at the same time. Erich's answer kinda confirmed it in my eyes, and makes perfect sense why he won't say anything about it's use. If he did confirm that's what it was, it's no longer a mystery, therefore useless.
I love how he talks about going from D1 to D2 like, it was jsut a laundry list of things they wanted to add into diablo 1 but under the name diablo 2 with a better engine essentially and i feel like this is the main point that most big devs now sleep on, like they never take the previous game and make a new game with all the lessons they learned about what was fun and not in that game even now that they have access to ALL OF THE DATA. Crazy.
Activision Blizzard's rule has corrupted the game industry and the Schaefer brothers and David Brevik are the only nephalems left who can take this prime evil down
Curious about Moonbeast. Nowadays i feel there's sometimes very high expectations, I don't know if a small company can create something that's objectively better than what already exists - not impossible - but I would be interested in something that relits a little bit of the excitement i used to have for games. In any case I'll be following the reddit and discord maybe loosely and will be curious of what will become of this. I liked Xenonauts, even Xenonauts 2, which is to some extent similar stories (if a bit too exact a replica instead of spiritual successor). Good stuff., great talk, I'm glad all these people still exist, work, and we can hear about them. There's a lot to be learned and remembered from the older generations.
BIGGEST TRUE EVER, MY 10GB HDD back in the day felt CLOGGED with this masterpiece. My parents even bickered about how it was heavier than windows (98 btw) lmao
Erich, David, Max, Peter & co. defined meaningful gaming to an entire generation. Seeing happenstance after happenstance fall just so in order for Diablo to come to fruition is almost spooky as it seemed fated to be given all of the hurdles along the way. Truly remarkable interview Llama and Erich. Could you imagine the games Llama, Erich and co. could produce together in the future? A match made in Heaven/Hell/Sanctuary.
We need these guys to come back and make a new diablo successor, same camera style, art style, combat, character development, itemization, basically thr same exact game just new levels and new setting and classes/skills
Lol the epitomey of the internet is telling the lead designer of the video game the channel you're in is based around that he's wrong. We as players only know one lore, the designers know every lore that was ever considered.
I played like 25h of Rebel Galaxy but didn't beat it. It had a lot of charm and I always thought it was surprising that I just didn't see anyone playing it on PC. At the time the only UA-cam content I could find for it was for consoles.
MOON BEAST INFORMATION
Website: www.moonbeast.com/
Reddit: reddit.com/r/moonbeast/s/UAweoExDa8
Discord: discord.com/invite/739FFVkbCX
@jimbobsarcadeineverkneelbc7503I'll always be rocking a 1050 defense magi, my Merc clone killing eth two upped kelpie snare with an eth rune in it. D clone slows to a crawl, and have eth upped toothrow armor, and help of course is flicker flame or crown of thieves with a ral
@jimbobsarcadeineverkneelbc7503eth skulders ire, I rerolled a jewel for 15 all res to toss into my wiz spike got a 90all res mod.
Imagine if this man was the creator of D3 and D4. Oh what could have been ...
Im actually playing d3 for the first time after playing D4..... THEY ARE THE EXACT SAME GAME LOL. NO progress just graphics. makes me sad
he would have quit after talking with the management... most likely
I've played d3 and watched d4 gameplay trailers....I've come to the same conclusions :P@@appleonsauce2035
what is diablo4?^^
Big problem is the job that streamers do. Streamers sell the game for audience. In future when D5 comes, streamers will play it, they like it or not and once again ppl will buy the game. Blizzard will be happy and they can just copy pasta D4 ----> D5 and can spent more time drinking coffee at the office and build up mediocre game just 2 days before launch.
The mere fact that this guy created the affix system and the itemization in d2 is amazing. In my opinion, the itemization and the feeling you get when a GG item drops is what keeps people playing d2 20 years later.
I agree with this completely. The itemization in D2 is what keeps me interested and I haven't seen another game come anywhere close to it.
the problem is that the new generations are not liking that, their brains would melt if you told them theres ilvl 85 areas where monsters can drop any item in the game, and that you cant farm specific boss for an item, and that that boss has less then 1/10 droprate for the item they want. they would have a meltdown and quit the game
@@BG1435q yup very true. Gamers and games nowadays provide instant gratification. D3 and d4 are perfect examples of the shift. They just shower you in uniques, set items and legendaries to mask the fact that the game is mediocre
I didn't get to that point of the video yet! That's amazing!
@@jasensantos209Disagree. The fact that they rain items upon you is WHY the game is more mediocre. I Love D3, but the items Feel less worthwhile because they drop so often.
Drastically reducing drop rates would give that game a better grind and follow-through.
THE LEGENDARY MALLET HIMSELF
Earth schaefer?
:)
@@turbo_brian lol you know the one :-)
This comment made me fuckin hoooowl. Lmaooo. Thank you
@@e.lake13lmao np bro, it had to be said !
Wouldn't it be nice to know that before he was bald, he had a mullet haircut? A legendary mullet...
I'm so glad I was born on 1986 and played games on 90s that developers put their hearts into and wanted to make actually good and fun games. Doom, Wolfenstein, Duke Nukem, Half-Life, ofc D1 & D2 etc. Those were the times man :)
I was 3 years late to the party but poor, so I got it all too lol. I miss the days
'84 here,...
CivNet
C&C + C&C RA
AoE,....
Wow,... what a Time
The first Tomb Raider 😅
@lauriv1251 Roller Coaster Tycoon.
1980 here and yes I agree I miss those kind of games.
Still regularly look for those kind of games on phone.
Oh man I remember playing wolfenstein from a bootleg floppy when I was like 7 years old haha
If Blizzard wants to save Diablo fanchise, they HAVE to bring these guys back, give them free hands and all the support they would need.
They don't care, they are catering to a new crowd now and have bare minimum development minds hence why they add blanket systems like "level scaling" and have designs that are all for micro transactions.
@@Despond If people won't play the game and won't buy the expansions, oh they will start to care.
@@Despond exactly, ever notice how d3,d4 and wow have the exact same systems which are often even called the same and are completely interchangeable? like if i said im going to farm renown, or do timed dungeon runs, do dungeons that scale into infinity and look how for i can go, you wouldnt know if im talking about diablo or wow, blizz is creatively bankrupt and is essentialy stealing content from their other games because they cant think of anything new that would define their games
@@LadaHusakLH Yeah, that's the catch. People are still playing those games. Maybe not you or me, maybe not most of the streamers, but there are always enough whales that keep the game running by buying everything.
They could hire all these amazing people who put their heart and soul into the game, give them enough time to get creative, and leave out the annoying bullshit lootbox mechanics - and then compare profits with their bland, boring, money squeezing, pay to win version, and come to the conclusion that the latter pays better, so they go with the second option. As sad that it is, this is how most of these companies work. Minimum risk, maximum profit, and the rest doesn't matter.
Corporates dont work like that unfortenly
Thank your mr. Schaefer and the rest classic Diablo team for shaping childhood with your masterpieces! You guys have created an art that should be studied in schools and universities now and in the future!
I wish you all the very best from the bottom of my heart!
Mother of GOD. I used to drive by Mt.Diablo in the bay area and go- "Whoa. That mountain's got the same name as Blizzard's Diablo series. That's kinda funny." I CAN'T BELIEVE IT WAS THAT LITERAL MOUNTAIN that one of the dev's wanted to name a video game after. This is crazy.
Imagine all the kids that went to mount d highschool lol
Thats gotta be a trip. Cool to learn stuff like that. :)
ua-cam.com/video/U1GaD9vJEZI/v-deo.html
Diablo is spanish for devil...
Wow, this was amazing! Erich if you read this comment, thank you, just thank you. I hope we get more interviews in future. I look forward to the moon beast game. I want to hear more about everything. If I see you randomly in chat I’ll probably thank you again. You are a legend.
Llama has now interviewed David, Max and Erich. Would love to see more interviews with others on the blizzard north team, not just matt uelman, but others like Phil Shenk, Peter Hu, etc.
I posted that while listening to it and was later that Peter and Phil were actually in the chart because they're working with Erich on their new game (which looks pretty cool). Funny that they mentioned Householder too as I saw him at the Portland Retro Gaming Expo last year (with Matt Uelman).
Would love to see them reunite and do again what they did back then. They could name their new game "Lilith" and let Blizz/Acti keep that "Diablo" title and ruin it more and more.
When he interviews Phil Shenk, we need llama to put a "Shenk the overseer" GIf instead of his photo.
Where is the interview with David? I have been trying to find it but can't.
I feel so weird by how incredibly privileged I am to be I'm listening to one of the significant developers/creators/founders/producers of my childhood dream game. So much so that then all the other OG creators joined the live stream too...!!!! Thank you for sharing this Llama, this was inspirational for any game creation aspirer and there is a wealth of knowledge to take away from the discussion. I have so much respect for what these guys created, and so much appreciation for the hard work and detail/passion they put into their games. They didn't make games to make money, they simply made games that were great to play, not corrupted by monetary desire. Take a hint, Blizzard.
I can't wait to try Moonbeast's new game. Wishing their entire team the best of luck in their work.
Man, I could listen to this guy talk forever. It's so fascinating to hear his history and perspective on things. What a treat.
These interviews are my favorite thing in the world. The best! Let's Go Moon Beast. Thanks Erich. Thanks Llama
As a live concert audio engineer I totally feel the sentiment of “I don’t know what’s next” which is very telling. I thank you so much for this content .
As an audio engineer who works at home, I don't know how you guys do live shows. Every live guy I've met is a little crazy but I feel like you need to enjoy the wild side of life to get into that line of work 😅 Hats off to you!
This was a *_fantastic_* interview. It goes perfectly alongside David Brevik's infamous "Diablo 2 GDC talk" and fills in some of the gaps.
It sounds like I am that one guy who actually adored Hellgate: London almost same as D1 and D2 back in the days. That game bares so many beautiful memories for me in a tough period of my life and I remember that I almost enjoyed it same as I did playing D2, and for me, D2 is probably one of my the top 3 games ever made that I played, watched or heard of (and that is from thousands of games during these what almost 30 years)! I do wonder if it would be interesting to play and/or watch that kind of oldie in this new age of games... Hm... Have you ever played it MrLlama?
The reason I like Llama is because he just had a passion for games and does not have a business professional side at all, at least that I can see. Not saying he isn’t professional but like, he’s wearing a D4 shirt, a game he doesn’t even care for anymore, when most of us would wear a D2 shirt talking to a Schaefer lol.
That being said Llama you’re a great interviewer, we’ve all said that in your past interviews. You know the history, hear the person talking, and don’t interrupt.
D2 will forever go down as my favorite game and for many people here… and Erich thank you for your contribution to this amazing game.
Edit: also, Llama, get a silent click mouse and a quieter keyboard maybe for interviews 🤣 they are both super cheap and can be swapped out whenever. I got one for meetings lol.
great interview. as a programmer that started working at Atari (console era), before the home game console industry crash happened, my (early) career really parallels his in many ways. i just wish that i had run in to him in SJ, CA, and put me back on the game programming path again. this brought back a lot of old memories!
I actually really liked Hellgate London! Granted I didnt put that much time into it... but I connected with a ton of my old D2 buds to play it and we had a blast!
This is so cool thank you for sharing. One of my favorite uniques from diablo 2.
Really nice interview!
I'm surprised Erich talked about Guild Wars and the Arena Net guys - I played this game so much back in the day and I loved it.
So many great ideas and mechanics. Just the fact you had a lot of skills but only equipped a certain amount whenever you went out fighting, is something we see a lot more today.
I didn't know Erich was part of the Hellgate: London team - I agree that what happened to that game was a tragedy, it tried so many different cool things and I think with more time in the oven it would have been one of the best games of its time. For what it's worth, I still loved it.
Im still playing the original game. Not the horrible Korean versions
Scheffes hammer, what a legend! Dude is hard to track down!
Llama you are a legend for this and I bet this was quite the experience for to do this interview, and Erich thank you for the best game to ever exist I have enjoyed it and pulled many all nighters playing this masterpiece as a kid and still til this day thank you!!
Loved the interview. What a genius creator and what a pity he gets ignored by shameful blizzard instead of a throne.
This was a real treat!! Thank you MrLlama and Mr. Schaefer! I very much hope there will be more similar interviews in the future.
MrLlama, thank you for bringing this to us! 👏🏻
This man is a legend! Bring him back for D5
Remember, he and the old BN left due to issues that are even worse at Blizzard now, so eh... We can dream 😅
@@Odinoiandifferent company then!
I think we need to let it go lol. Enjoy D2 for what it is and stop expecting a series that peaked in 2000 to come back.
Or. Blizzard North team reassembles, or at least most of them. And they make something even cooler!
Someone light the bat signal.
@@jackel1994 PoE2 has very modern yet old style of graphics and gameplay. No clutter or fairy dust. Should scratch that itch
I have memories watching the credits at the end of D2 and wondering what it must have been like to work with these gods. D2 was a huge inspiration for why I ended up going into software engineering. I hope that one day the source code is made available. I can only imagine the insane engineering it took to make this sprite based game and all of its subsystems... Mr Schaefer, thank you sir.
This was a great listen, thanks for having this talk, guys.
Gob bless this man! And please make him work on the game again))
thank you very much, sir. gave me something to look forward to (coming home from school to play D2) during otherwise crappy teenage years. amazing game.
I love that he actually lurks in there. And I can totally see how nobody would pay attention to the real dev, it's so unfathomable that he would be just a normal person if he was part of such an iconic game.
It's pretty nuts that back in the day one guy could've done so much design on the game, today there would be a whole team for a single feature. And he was an artist when he started! Albeit he had so much understanding of the mechanics from childhood already.
Thank you for interviewing Erich Schaefer this is really interesting stuff, love it!
Loved hearing him talk about how Game feel is #1 before everything, I couldn’t agree more. In a game, pressing buttons just has to feel good. Pressing jump always has to feel good, movement has to feel responsive and low latency, the feedback when hitting an enemy has to be direct and clear. Game feel is #1 always.
Great talk MrLlama, enjoyed the hell out of it. Moon beast just reminds me at Noita in 3d mixed with a ARPG. Noita is a a banger and just started with the idea of a fun world destruction. I hope Your and Erich ideas bloom.
Great interview, thank you MrLlama! You should also interview Peter Hu and his continuos development of D2 and patch 1.10. Still think that 1.10 must be one of the best patches ever released in gaming history, would love to hear how he convinced the company to spend money on developing patches for and old game
Awww yea, the gang is back together! Looking forward to seeing what these guys create.
This was awesome! One of your top 10 videos Mr. Llama! (And that's saying something 'cause you have a lot of videos.) Can't wait to play his new game.
Awesome interview. Thank you
Dudes face has to HURT from nervous smiling for almost 2 hours straight
The 2 game I played the most was Diablo 2 and Guild wars 2. Its funny to see that there is things in commun with those 2 franchise. Very nice interview, thanks to you both.
Same here, although I played way more GW1, than GW2… I do not like much persistent word games.
If I could give more thumbs up, I would, this was an amazing interview.
Such an interesting interview and really cool to to have done for this game we all love. Thanks Llama!
Great interview and what a great guy !!!! One word : Passion
Great interview. To be the man behind the greatest item system is just amazing. D4 really needs to go back to D1 & 2 to fix that. And the new project looks cool!
thanks lama for putting this up.... erich is a god .... nothing else to say about him..... 10/10 so good
THANK YOU MR LAMA GOOD INTERVIEW SINCE D2 WAS MY FAV GAME GROWING UP AND STILL PLAY IT TIL THIS DAY THIS IS THE MR LAMA I LIKE TALKING ABOUT D2 HENCE WHY I BEEN FOLLWOING FOR YEARS WAS BECAUSE OF THIS KIND OF CONTENT
this is the type of work llama does, that hopefully in a near future will make even more sense that it does today! great interview!
I know now why Blizzard didnt ask him for his advice. their truly jealous of his genius
Such an amazing interview! So happy you chatted to Erich :)
Was hoping mr llama would have asked what the original plan was for the “standard of heroes”? Level 90 item dropped from Ubers, that I’d always thought would have been for some form of end game content.
Great video!
you should bring an active d2r dev on for next video, if there is any left :'(
A game dev that actually plays games. Wow what a world we all grew up in. Now look at the world we live in. Graphics artists are our game designers.
So this is the architect of the loot system in D2? The cause of so much joy (and misery at times :P), guys grinding endlessly for hours searching for Tyrael's, Mang Song's, Ber's, Jah's, etc. Amazing work Erich, you've brought so much joy and entertainment to so many. Brilliant interview, really enjoyed this chat. Thanks for organising Llama
Very interesting to hear a long form conversation with someone that made a true classic. Its like interviewing Mark Twain or Charles Dickens.
Great interview! Looking forward to seeing more of Moonbeast. It's driving me crazy that I can't tell if he's trolling with the chat gem doing something or not...
Loved D1 and D2 cant wait to see what Erich and the team will create with Moon beast!!!
Super fun and inspiring conversation ! Thanks!
I actually looked at my notifications on my phone and said "oh my."
love it! so much respect for this man and you as well Llama, good content as usual!
Good interviews beget so many more questions. This brought joy to my old bones.
Can you link your other interviews in the video description or in the first pinned comment?
No wayy can't wait to hear this
Best Diablo game ever made
Best video game ever made. Period.
Really cool interview! Hope you do more in the future
Amazing interview! I love these!
It's hilarious that their big moment was also a common hook among players. The Tristram music and art starts the journey but the first time I walked my warrior into the cathedral and destroyed a skeleton at my friends house I was hooked.
I'd like to hear his thoughts on potential unique item changes and the legendary act 4 content that could have been. Was act 4 originally longer? What was thrown out?
How could you not ask about Schaefer's hammer??? My mind is fuzzy but I think that came out before the rune words and it was truly awesome. Then it became way out shadowed.
Interview Peter! I like many of the runewords and their concepts. I want to hear his story doing LOD without Schaefer and Brevik
32:00 AMEN! Im loving this video I am passionate about this genre and loot and affixes and all that juicy balance
Thanks so much Llama for doing this.
What a great interview, still surprised Llama has not dived into POE. Me personally i coud never get into POE but from the looks of it it’s definitely made for hardcore gamers like llama who could start to master this game. Im hoping POE 2 gets me when it comes out. Also Blizzard please hire these guys even as an advisor or contractor for D4, im sure whatever they suggest would boost the game tremendously.
As Erich is speaking about how terrain mechanics work, I'm reminded of the pronises that were made about Black & White.
The function of the chat gem has to be the best kept secret in gaming history.
We need another one of these angels that are obsessed with itemization like this dude right here. With all the new consoles and games, I never thought I would be playing a game from 2001 at this point
I owe the blizzard north d2 devs everything. The game changed my life and I still play 3-4 hours a day 20 years later.
Thanks for the childhood. Best game ever.
That was really cool, and nice shirt Llama xd
That was a pleasure to listen😊
I think the Chat Gem does exactly what it is made to do, to make people question if it does anything. I believe it does nothing. But yet, making people wonder is therefore making it do something. So yes, the Chat Gem does both nothing and something at the same time. Erich's answer kinda confirmed it in my eyes, and makes perfect sense why he won't say anything about it's use. If he did confirm that's what it was, it's no longer a mystery, therefore useless.
David Brevik said his wife is the only one who can leak the function of the chat gem.
Oh man... a video with a guest means I can't watch at 2x speed. Still amazing interview Llama and Erich!
how cool. thanks for sharing llama, this is awesome.
He looks like Gail from Breaking Bad, but with no hair
I love how he talks about going from D1 to D2 like, it was jsut a laundry list of things they wanted to add into diablo 1 but under the name diablo 2 with a better engine essentially and i feel like this is the main point that most big devs now sleep on, like they never take the previous game and make a new game with all the lessons they learned about what was fun and not in that game even now that they have access to ALL OF THE DATA. Crazy.
Plottwist: This dude makes an amazing f2p diablo MMO browser game that takes over the world
"Schaeffer's Hammer" - an awesome Unique Weapon in Diablo 2, before Runewords exists!
A MALLET YOU CAN INTERVIEW!
Health and mana globes, quest exclamation points, dividing campaigns into ‘acts’ these OG guys left their imprints everywhere on ARPGs
Llama keeping D2 alive thx ❤
Activision Blizzard's rule has corrupted the game industry and the Schaefer brothers and David Brevik are the only nephalems left who can take this prime evil down
he starts the interview like The diary of a CEO
GOOD START !!! !!!
Curious about Moonbeast. Nowadays i feel there's sometimes very high expectations, I don't know if a small company can create something that's objectively better than what already exists - not impossible - but I would be interested in something that relits a little bit of the excitement i used to have for games. In any case I'll be following the reddit and discord maybe loosely and will be curious of what will become of this. I liked Xenonauts, even Xenonauts 2, which is to some extent similar stories (if a bit too exact a replica instead of spiritual successor).
Good stuff., great talk, I'm glad all these people still exist, work, and we can hear about them. There's a lot to be learned and remembered from the older generations.
Can you say Diablo 4 is objectively good? That has a massive budget and team...
I remember diablo 2 was something like 1 gb installed, and everyone thought that was so crazy. The game takes MULTIPLE CDS! OMG INSANE!
BIGGEST TRUE EVER, MY 10GB HDD back in the day felt CLOGGED with this masterpiece. My parents even bickered about how it was heavier than windows (98 btw) lmao
Legend speaking to a legend.
Loved this interview!
Thanks for making my childhood awesome!
Erich, David, Max, Peter & co. defined meaningful gaming to an entire generation. Seeing happenstance after happenstance fall just so in order for Diablo to come to fruition is almost spooky as it seemed fated to be given all of the hurdles along the way.
Truly remarkable interview Llama and Erich. Could you imagine the games Llama, Erich and co. could produce together in the future? A match made in Heaven/Hell/Sanctuary.
No coincidence that my favorite video game ever was created by a fellow ad&d purest
We need these guys to come back and make a new diablo successor, same camera style, art style, combat, character development, itemization, basically thr same exact game just new levels and new setting and classes/skills
Lol the epitomey of the internet is telling the lead designer of the video game the channel you're in is based around that he's wrong.
We as players only know one lore, the designers know every lore that was ever considered.
I played like 25h of Rebel Galaxy but didn't beat it. It had a lot of charm and I always thought it was surprising that I just didn't see anyone playing it on PC. At the time the only UA-cam content I could find for it was for consoles.