You know what would have actually been cool? If Destiny Board didn't have its win condition, but instead Spirit Message I-A had increasingly strong effects and L had the "you win the Duel" effect.
F- Your opponent can't summon cards from the extra deck. I- Your opponent can't special summon. N- Your opponent can't activate effect monster's effects. A- Your opponent can't use spells or traps. L- You win. Each card gets more and more powerful.
@@TheTerminator8397 Yeah just like that. I was thinking more along the lines of: F - Maybe no effect because you can activate it on your opponent's end phase. I - Once per turn, each Spirit Message and Destiny Board you control cannot be destroyed. N - Once per turn, you can destroy 1 card your opponent controls (or negate 1 summon or something like that). A - Something similar to N. L - You win the Duel.
I just realized that you can get two copies of destiny board "A" so that you can spell A N A L for the amusement and approval of your friends and peers at locals.
SprotossP I wouldn’t be surprised if it gets future support, but it’s hard to make it viable without making it busted, so I doubt they’d do anything crazy. Imagine a world where destiny board is T1, yikes.
I really like how you paired small lessons like card advantage, bringing up magical mallet. Very helpful for casual/new players to find this sort of information in these videos. Keep it up.
@@beatsbyadmiralz5915 Then you've got a super confusing situation of a Spirit Message N that has the same art as A. Or DETAH if they decide to keep the A as-is and make N into the T.
@Pharaoh Red Eyes Black Chick and Frog the Jam got renamed, and the Archfiend and Ultimate Crystal monsters got erratas to state they they belong in these archetypes. There IS a precedent for cards with censored/mistranslated names to get fixed with renames and erratas.
"Just shuffle them back in with card trader..." Who the f*** would ever say that? Really? I'm sure destiny board players love having a card on the field that prevents them from using their win condition.
@@50Stranded The only way u can get destiny board cards on the field and protect ur self from attacks is to play dark sanctuary but then if u put them all on the field the only protection u have is if u flip heads everytime on attack
I am a destiny board player and I can confirm that it is great to have spirit message cards in my hand but I only have a problem if I don't have destiny board on the field because then they become a brick in my hand
In the manga Destiny Board seemed a lot more viable. The spirit messages weren't cards, it was just Destiny Board generating a new letter each turn (could probably be replicated with counters in real life I imagine). The only condition of Destiny Board staying active was that Dark Necrofear had to stay in your Graveyard.
The destiny board itself should have just gotten counters added instead. After 4 counters were added, you win the duel. The counters could represent each letter
It's an incredibly complicated card. One that requires big brain tactics and perfect timing to ensure maximum effectiveness. Not for the average player
Hey Doug, I really like your analysis whilst analyzing certain cards! Thank you for taking a break from the repetition and revamping the series of “Why Nobody Plays”. I’d like to throw in my feeble recommendation of a “Why SOMEBODY Played”, which may perhaps be an analysis of a certain rogue card and a summary of what made it so effective at the time. Anyway, have a good one!
Imagine a world where destiny board letter cards all had effects that on activation then shuffle them back to deck if you actually played them outside of Destiny Board. It may actually be interesting then.
@@CardMasterBrian Oh yeah a fun win con. that is made even more fun by the addition of Mystic Mine. I think i'd rather play against FTK then another Mystic Mine stall deck XD
The Spirit messages really should get a retrains that give them continous effects which prevent your opponent from targeting or destroying your spell traps, impose limits on special summoning or negate monster effects.
"Why Nobody Plays" is one of my favorite topics you cover, and alternate win conditions are always neat to hear about, so I'd love seeing more from you!
You know an archtype is bad when they give it a spell that could potentially draw you 5 cards. (Banish Dark Spirit Mastery, shuffle all 5 pieces into the deck from the grave, draw 5.)
I remember getting all 5 of these via trading and getting booster packs back then. I felt invincible, but there were very few instances in which I actually could get all the cards out on the field.
I've been waiting for this since dzeef did the Exodia one. When I was a kid I got so excited when I got the destiny board cards. I think I got them off once and I may or may not have been cheating
I want "occult" to be good so bad, all I can think is retrained letters or a link Necrofear/new destiny board that gains effects that locks your opponent the more letters you get
"BUT I PLAY DESTINY BOARD!!!" inb4 "inb4 but I play destiny board comment" comment. Also, about Dark Sanctuary winning more games than Dedtiny Board, can confirm lol.
I remember making a destiny board deck back when I played tag force every day after school and was underwhelmed at how bad it was. Things like card trader blocked me out from my own strategy so I couldn’t use any stall spells or traps. And if I wanted to revive a monster I couldn’t use all of the haunted. Basically the only strategy was to play “not destroyed by battle monsters and see if the AI could get around it.
Just recently got back into the game about mid to late 2018 after having left the game for 7 years because I didn't like the direction, but your videos and other channels like TGSAnime and TheDuelLogs had revived my love for the game, and I've swiftly been picking up on how the game's changed and really love a lot of the new Archetypes.
I think that if they made new "Spirit Message" cards with like Bonus effect to not brick in your hand, then we will see some Destiny Board shenanigans, but I guess it would be too good for a win condition card.
How about the effects affecting both players? Like blocking all summons for two turns, all enemy monsters lose attacks for each player's attack phase, etc. And the new Destiny Board makes it so the cards must be played if possible so you have to time Destiny Board when you're sure you can stay alive and defend backrow until L hits the field while slowly losing backrow slots
@@Hornetog9vp time wizard is obviously a staple 3 of in timelords,its op because your monsters are never destroyed! jokes aside,timelords have some cool shit they can do with their anti destruction effects,like dark hole n stuff and since you usually keep 1 on the field mystic mine works okay with them still rely completely on burn and are pretty hard to actually do stuff with when any non destruction removal hard counters the entire deck
I'm pretty sure I have seen at least Metaion and another time Lord top a tournament or two... I'm pretty sure Metaion was a side deck option for a while
A few proposals for why nobody plays: -most structure decks -Raigeki/Dark Hole/Mirror Force -flip monsters (aside from shadoll/guru) -life point gain cards -multiple copies of utility links (ex: knightmarea) -equip spells (that aren’t revival/broken) -atk reduction cards (that don’t have other effects) -polymerization (in non-archetypal fusion decks) -atk boosting field spells -link 5 cards -Gamble cards -atk/defense swappers -high defense walls -exchange -yu jo friendship(lolol) -(vanilla) trap hole -Supply Squad -orichalchos -destroyed by battle floaters(ex: mystic tomato) -union monsters (oldschool ones anyways) -gemini moneters -piercing beaters -magic hats -defusion I’ll admit some of these are way too general, were probably already covered, straight up wrong/misplaced or contrary to the standards of WNP, but I just wanted to throw a bunch of ideas out there.
Gemini was meta once, but it was just Neos Alius in HERO Beat for his stats and Gemini Spark. You'd never gemini summon him, but those two cards have a lot of tops
I think it's cool when they add support like that. Destiny Board always felt like such a let down when the anime made it seem so powerful. Anyway, I agree with another comment that you could do a "Why Somebody Plays" for rogue strategies.
Destiny Board looks powerful in the anime for the same reason a lot of "antagonist of the week" cards do: almost nobody runs destruction effects in the show.
i love playing destiny board with necrofear on master duel. there is a funny combo that you can do with destiny board, sentence of doom, and battle fader. battle fader is a fiend monster that you play from your hand when your opponent direct attacks and it ends the battle phase immediately but is banished when it leaves the field. sentence of doom allows you to once per turn retrieve fiend monsters from banished or graveyard up to the number of destiny board/spirit message you have on the field. essentially what it does is let you indefinitely recycle battle fader and become untouchable. they can just destroy your traps but i think its a neat combo that allows you to stall for the destiny board win condition.
Hey Doug why not make a new vid for the Sacred Beast and call it "Why people Should try 'blank' ". Because sacred beast is getting some fun support cards.
It seems you overlooked that Dark Spirit's Mastery can also place cards from the graveyard to the bottom of the deck resulting in actual "free" draws. (I'm not saying this makes it any more viable you still have to play destiny board)
Fun fact: With sentence of doom you can infinitely loop battle fader to your hand as long as you control another letter, since it can target both banished fiends and fiends in the graveyard.
Hey Doug, how would you feel about this revamp of Destiny Board? Instead of having the letters in your deck, move the I N A L to the extra deck and give them protection effects. I know it wouldn't be the most amazing thing but I feel like moving the bricks to the extra deck would give the deck a lot more consistency. They should probably receive some monster cards that can act as lightning rods to protect the spirit messages.
That would probably be the only way to make it a viable strategy. But then you'd have people saying it was too OP and demanding it be banned. Can't please anybody in TCGs.
@@Flexy59 how would waking the dragon work if the effect text contains "can only be brought out of the extra deck by the effect of destiny board" or "banish this card once destiny board leaves the field". You could easily add some card text to make it pointless to cheat it out of the extra deck.
As always, great video. Also I have an idea, "What happened to Raigeki?" like the "What happened to Fiendish Chain?" video. I'm curious about why it fell out of favor.
Don't know you but I still see Raigeki all the time. The only reason I don't play it in either of my decks is that Dinosaurs prefer Dark Hole since it doubles as the unironically best combo starter of the deck, Crystal Abundance is just too good to pass up only my Tribrigade-Crystal deck, my Six Samurai deck couldn't care less about how many monsters my opponent has, since it can very easily FTK going first or drop a monster with infinite Atk going second; my Ancient Gear and Train decks need my opponent to have SOMETHING I can beat up with Giant and Liebe, and the Flunderzee/Winged Dragon of Ra deck has Soul Crossing and Sphere Mode.
Paleozoic Marrella goes great In altergeist. Example. When you activate it, you send altergeist camouflage to grave. The reason for this, because altergeist camouflage protects altergeist cards by banishing it. It helps with deck thinning, as well as the grave as a interruption. Also once the Paleozoic is in grave, it’ll revive back as a monster trap.
I remember getting excited when I first learned of the Destiny Board (I think I got Message I first). But even my young mind knew it would probably be too hard to pull off once I read Destiny Board. Oh well.
if the letters slowly gave you either, more protection to prevent them all getting wiped, or some more control power to the deck giving it an actual way to interact with the opponent it could probably be the "best" alt win con deck, being actually viable unlike venominaga etc. but not an, i go first i win any interaction i lose like exodia
If all the spirit messages had effects: I: Spell/Traps you control cannot be destroyed by card effects. N: When this card is placed on the field: Draw 2 cards. A: When this card is placed on the field: Destroy all monsters your opponent controls. (L doesn't need one since you win at that point)
just a simple destruction protection or a high def/atk fiend monster that cannot be destroyed by card effects while destiny board was on the field would help this deck extremely
Another way to go would be to have the I, N, A and L spirit messages trigger an effect when sent from the field to the graveyard, thematically kind of cool for the spirits to "take revenge" on their destroyer. Would make it easier to justify a "mash-up" with a non-dedicated Destiny Board deck.
It was just a cool anime archetype that they printed and nerfed the shit out of from Yami and Bakura’s battle. Sounds like they are showing it some love after all these years.
If dark sanctuary would special summon destiny board or spirit message cards which are already in your spell/trap card zone as monsters it would be so much better. The uneffected by card effects really doesn't matter otherwise if you can just hit destiny board
I would rather look into the solutions for making Destiny Board better. some good things to note: -Dark Sanctuary gives protection for the letters used as monsters, opening space for more diverse game play as Battle Damage protection -Dark Spirit Mastery - incredble search effect, great effect from the Graveyard can be used also for free draws if those cards are in your GY, Discard effect could also be used as a benefit when the Fiend Monster line up would consist of a mix of Archfiend/Darkworld and the Dark Spirit/Necrofear monsters add Call of the Archfiends to it and it could combo really nicely and if you got also that Eradicator Virus that's a 3 turn spell or trap protection you can create for your Destiny Board. -Sentence of doom when in multiples can Turbo Destiny Board even faster making it a 2/3 turn win scenario even if one of those letters is in your GY, also getting to use some of your monsters again can be very useful too if you picked the right cards to go with your deck. -The Duel is put on a Timer thanks to Destiny board which can put pressure on some opponents depending on their decks -Depending on the deckbuild it can give you various win conditions: Destiny Board, Dark Sanctuary as just a Beatdown from your monsters. The cons/Weaknesses -while it does give some protection 2 very important cards are still wide open: Dark Sanctuary and Destiny board itself -all other letters Brick in opening hand which is really big negative -it is very relient on the Deck and Extra Deck how well it does perform What does it need in my opinion: -A Extra Deck Monster who has build in Protection for both the Field Spell card as the Destiny Board Cards(there are probably extra deck monsters who could already function this position but a Necrofear XYZ/Synchro or Even Fusion would be great) -A Main Deck Monster Card that can Summon itself by using Spirit message cards in your Hand/Field/GY with the effect to loop them back into the Deck -An Extra Deck Monster that could be summoned by the Fang of Critias which part of it's effect is the same as Destiny Board itself as getting protection from Dark Sanctuary -A card that lets you draw up to the number of Spirit message cards you have in your hand. -A Fiend type Monster that has Battle-destruction Protections as forcing your opponent to attack it with all monsters as receiving 0 damage while through Dark Sacntuary burning your opponent lifepoints basically turning their own board against them.
I do remember the only time I won a duel at a local back in the GX era. I played DB at my opponent's first End Phase, and he was unable to stop it from there. He even told me that the only reason it worked, was because he could not draw his MST in time.
Hey, i just wanted to say that I love your analysis content. Maybe you could do a series taking a look at some different deck archetypes that are currently too weak to see play and point out some flaws and maybe support that they could get which would push them into viability. Awesome content as always.
To be honest, it would actually be worse if destroying one card didn't destroy all of them in most cases. Think about it, if you've got F I N and A up and your opponent blows up the F, what happens to your board? Your stuck with three spells that literally do nothing clogging up your S/T zones, and even if you do somehow recover with another Destiny Board, it HAS to activate the cards in order, leaving you with F I N A I, no zones, and no win. The new support can help with this situation, but most of the time you're better off just starting from scratch as to not shoot yourself in the foot.
Just errata the spirit messages to be place-able from hand. It won't make the card competitively viable but at the very least it's something. It would create an interesting dynamic where your opponent would have to MST it asap in case you have the remaining messages in hand instead of knowing for sure they are safe for 4 turns.
Because it takes up all your spell slots, makes your deck constantly reshuffle giving you even less of a draw chance, and because all you have to do is wait for D-E-A-T or F-I-N-A and hit Destiny board with Mystical Space Typhoon and the entire board is cleared.
It would be cool if there was a destiny board retrain that brought out a series of lettered monsters from the extra deck in order, each one getting harder to get rid of till the last one has like 8,000 atk or something
I still remember Yugioh4RealMens Herald of Destiny deck. Summon Herald of Perfection to block your opponent until you can activate Destiny Board. As "I" "N" and "A" were activated and his opponent struggled to out the Herald he tributed the 3 letters for Hamon Lord of Striking Thunder and attacked for game. That guy was lightyears beyond the meta.
I think a cool concept for destiny board support would be that they could be used for a archetypal xyz monster summon that can either use the destiny board cards for a win condition or, as negation tools.
Had a Destiny board deck back when it launched. It won on occasion, but took a lot of luck. Used cards like messenger of peace, waboku and Imperial Decree to help stall, but can also remove themselves if I needed board space.
the most fun thing about Destiny Board is arranging the letters to spell silly words. it was funny to me when I was 7 and it's still funny to play Scrabble during a game of Yu-Gi-Oh
@@xgongivittoya1931 Honestly, if they gave Venominaga it's anime effect, where you win the duel 3 turns after it inflicts battle damage to your opponent, it would still be useless just because of how hard to summon it is.
i remember using it correctly back in the days, using Cat of ill omen to search for it, mix it with a defensive play using monster and way to empty the deck asap(like monsters summoning more from the deck, and when i played destiny board, if my opponent was waiting for a few letter to appear before destroying it, he was doomed, i had 3 copy of *cold wave* just for that, start of my turn playing cold wave, mix it with magician of fate etc to get it back if i needed, so i lock my opponent from playing any magic and trap and destroying my destiny board, monster with the ability to destroy spell and trap were very rare back in that day. but i stopped playing it, when *LAST TURN* was added, i had a very competitive deck based on last turn, winning half the time in my first 2-3 turn sometime i had it set on my very first turn not allowing my opponent to do anything on his turn and die right there, good old days XD where no one wanted to play agains me for fun. or every of my friend was using minar in their deck to counter me, witch i did counter with hallowed life barrier etc later on..
It's like destiny board was given as many restrictions as possible to keep it from being good. You have to play the cards in a specific order, and you can't play one immediately from the hand when you draw into it. You can't pull spirit messages from your graveyard, so you can't just play another copy of destiny board without multiples of the spirit messages. They all go to the graveyard when one is destroyed, so you can't repair your board. It's designed to be trash.
I am a destiny board player and I can agree that it is not a really popular deck, but I can say it is really fun to play it and having no one expect it at locals
Its like a more fun exodia in concept with getting little messages from a ouija board but its so hard to pull off. Truly the main problem is not with the I N A or L spell cards doing nothing. Its the trap itself. Destiny board and that final piece of text. When a spirit message or this card leaves the field, destroy all other spirit messages you control. Thats the main problem with this deck. Dark Sanctuary is great that it turns the messages into monsters when summoned and they become immune to card effects and being attacked. If it also protected Destiny Board, that would have been what we really needed.
hmm.. trying to consider a more fair retrain of the strategy... How about: (f) unchanged (i) add "when this card is summoned by (f), lower the attack of all opponents monsters by 500 times the number of (letters) on your field as long as this card remains on the field." (n) add "when this card is summoned by (f), all effects that target a destiny board or spirit message you control are redirected to this card while it remains on the field. when this card is sent from the field to the graveyard by card effect, play 1 (f) and (i) from your graveyard [they are treated as summoned by (f)]" (a) add "when this card is summoned by (f), disable one zone of your choice while this card remains on the field" (l) add "you can discard this card from your hand to add one (letter) to your hand" notes on my shorthand: i use the letters to indicate the cards, not their full names. if the proposed effect says (letter), it means any piece of FINAL.
Very late comment here but wanted to speak my thoughts on it. I love Bakura's deck theme with occult and paranormal cards. I'm not a tournament league duelist I'm at best adept. I can build good rogue decks but I've just never tried building anything otk speed, I just don't like duels to end that fast. Destiny board was one of the most troublesome set of cards to try and make work, second only to trying to summon exodia necross (I love exodia necross to death, but it's summon condition is murder) the only somewhat feasible method I had found for it was to run a deck of all monsters and anything else being copies of destiny board cards and deck shuffling, recycling or draw power and all the monsters being time Lord's, of which the majority of the entire deck was timelords. Years ago timelords were ridiculously difficult to contend with monster to monster so they were the only thing I could think of that could stay consenstent and keep coming out to protect the field while destiny board did it's thing. This was before I had access to timelords support, at this time only the monsters existed. All the test results was the deck just turned out to be an infinite deck by way of the timelords that just stalled for 30-50+ turns at a time because often AI would blow up pieces of destiny board and I'd have to start again or just finish them with timelords. Considering I hear nothing about timelords in the current meta, I'm gonna presume even with whatever support they may have gotten, even they cannot help destiny board sadly.
Honestly if they want to make this deck competitive they should make a Spell or trap card that lets you use the Spirit messages in your hand, so we don't have to wait for the opponents turn. And to make it fair, that specific card will be limited to 1 copy.
I played a destiny board deck ... I paired it with Herald Fairies and most important Herald Of Perfection way before it got those other support cards. It worked well enough to beat some meta decks back then with reasonable consistense.
Two quick notes. Dark Spirit Mastery also retrieves from GY, wich is absolutely CRUCIAL as it gives you a comeback chance if your opponent blows up Destiny Board and the Spirit Messages. Magical Mallet actually DID shuffle itself back to the deck in the Anime, and if it worked like this in the TCG or let you draw an extra card it ABSOLUTELY would see a lot of play and would get Limited at the very least. Just look at Moray of Greed, wich does work like that and is a staple 3-of in every WATER deck in existance.
@@phantomnite it effectively does the same, it resets 2 monsters from the hand and draws 3 cards, thus going hand neutral. It does not recycle itself reusable, but if you draw more than 1 you can fire them off one after another.
I remember these cards from that series, once insane back then it was like Exodia, I was on the hunt for the whole word of FINAL, I only gotten 2 or 3 of them though back in the old days.
The Necrofears are actually really great in Infernoids and some of the bigger ones can be used in recycling your Infernoids when you run out of steam from Monster Gates
I'm only at the 1:43 timestamp, and I already know why this card is bad. 1. One MST or something similar, BANG, you'll have to start all over again. 2. Spirit Messages are Lightsworn Wulf in your hand(Wulf is how I say Garnets) 3. Continuous Spell or traps cards could not be used. 4. You have to wait four of you opponent's turns to win. 5. If all of one letter was in your graveyard or banished zone, you lost. You would have no choice but to lay your hand on the deck. It was slow even back then, plenty of opportunities for the opponent to pop it, and you could have a hand of Wulfs if you was not careful.
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Disagree. Being able to banish opponent to shadow realm and stealing their deck is a +40 in card advantage which is very powerful in the current meta
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Card Advantage doesn’t mean anything if it’s just a bunch of garbage cards your getting from the poor sucker that’s stuck in the Shadow Realm
@@GiantCaliber what if they were a rich kid like kaiba?
Very true and it's a particularly good matchup against Shaddolls and Lightsworns with a 60+ card advantage.
Because they changed it from "DEATH" to "FINAL" and everyone lost intrest
4KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!
But I wonder, if you use the Japanese A and the English A, do they count as duplicates or not?
@@waltercardcollector ok now I'm wondering this now you ruin my sleep over this now
@@waltercardcollector You can use both of them to spell out a word
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Destiny Board had two periods when it wasn't competitive.
Before it received support, and after it received support.
How about right when it receives support?
@@ZenoDLC Those few hours when stores were receiving support...we will never know...
@@ZenoDLC The boundary between two periods doesn't exist in the real world. There's only before, and after.
@@Mernom ok morpheus
You know what would have actually been cool? If Destiny Board didn't have its win condition, but instead Spirit Message I-A had increasingly strong effects and L had the "you win the Duel" effect.
Yes!
+Walt Gottlieb That would have give a new meaning to "Make your enemy take the L" LOL
@@claudiarey699 nice lol
F- Your opponent can't summon cards from the extra deck. I- Your opponent can't special summon. N- Your opponent can't activate effect monster's effects. A- Your opponent can't use spells or traps. L- You win. Each card gets more and more powerful.
@@TheTerminator8397 Yeah just like that. I was thinking more along the lines of:
F - Maybe no effect because you can activate it on your opponent's end phase.
I - Once per turn, each Spirit Message and Destiny Board you control cannot be destroyed.
N - Once per turn, you can destroy 1 card your opponent controls (or negate 1 summon or something like that).
A - Something similar to N.
L - You win the Duel.
I just realized that you can get two copies of destiny board "A" so that you can spell A N A L for the amusement and approval of your friends and peers at locals.
Imagine being in the Finals of the World Championships...
Spelling A N A L AND winning the match.
@Casswury i laughed so much lmao
@Friendly Neighbourhood Sun Wheel pfp just makes this post even better
Except you can't. You MUST place i, n, a, l in order. can't use 2 a.
@@Mernom to win with it, yes. the point isn't to win with it the point is to spell anal
Ok, ok, but hear me out.
The "F" and the "L" arts would make great memes.
They already do.
Person : *Dies*
Satan in Hell: *Destiny Board *
Use Magical Contract Door to force your opponent to take the L
More thematic. Use Exchange with L being the only card in your hand.
At Ceotaku last year, someone handed out the "L" card when they won against someone. We already there at meme status.
@@FrameLinks-kd1yh I'm happy someone remembers that I did that at Taku
''Why Nobody Plays Destiny Board'' 2 Years later new Destiny Board cards.
Lol
There's literally no way to make these good without an errata.
Osayas
SprotossP I wouldn’t be surprised if it gets future support, but it’s hard to make it viable without making it busted, so I doubt they’d do anything crazy. Imagine a world where destiny board is T1, yikes.
@@spyro2002 At that point just give me a card that if it's summoned i win the whole tournament.
I really like how you paired small lessons like card advantage, bringing up magical mallet. Very helpful for casual/new players to find this sort of information in these videos. Keep it up.
I really want a lost art version of Destiny Board which spells out "death" instead of "final".
Probably won't happen because then card names would have to be changed
In ocg it is death
In tcg it is final
TalonGB you don’t have to change the name, just change the art...
@@beatsbyadmiralz5915 Then you've got a super confusing situation of a Spirit Message N that has the same art as A. Or DETAH if they decide to keep the A as-is and make N into the T.
@Pharaoh Red Eyes Black Chick and Frog the Jam got renamed, and the Archfiend and Ultimate Crystal monsters got erratas to state they they belong in these archetypes. There IS a precedent for cards with censored/mistranslated names to get fixed with renames and erratas.
"Just shuffle them back in with card trader..."
Who the f*** would ever say that? Really? I'm sure destiny board players love having a card on the field that prevents them from using their win condition.
This is why Destiny Board is so ass lmao, playing a single card trader shuts down your whole strategy
@@50Stranded you also have dark sanctuary dumbass
@Seto Kaiba 123 You'd rather play Mystic mine in most instances. As sad as that is.
@@50Stranded The only way u can get destiny board cards on the field and protect ur self from attacks is to play dark sanctuary but then if u put them all on the field the only protection u have is if u flip heads everytime on attack
I am a destiny board player and I can confirm that it is great to have spirit message cards in my hand but I only have a problem if I don't have destiny board on the field because then they become a brick in my hand
In the manga Destiny Board seemed a lot more viable. The spirit messages weren't cards, it was just Destiny Board generating a new letter each turn (could probably be replicated with counters in real life I imagine). The only condition of Destiny Board staying active was that Dark Necrofear had to stay in your Graveyard.
The destiny board itself should have just gotten counters added instead. After 4 counters were added, you win the duel. The counters could represent each letter
I'm surprised for April Fools he didn't make a "Why nobody plays Pot of Greed" video
but what does pot of greed do?! [/old complaint with the anime]
It's an incredibly complicated card. One that requires big brain tactics and perfect timing to ensure maximum effectiveness. Not for the average player
I remember the one locals I played this deck... I drew all 4 Spirit messages at the same time with no Destiny Board. What a great deck!
Hey Doug, I really like your analysis whilst analyzing certain cards! Thank you for taking a break from the repetition and revamping the series of “Why Nobody Plays”. I’d like to throw in my feeble recommendation of a “Why SOMEBODY Played”, which may perhaps be an analysis of a certain rogue card and a summary of what made it so effective at the time. Anyway, have a good one!
Final Countdown would actualy be great for this, especially since it's become somewhat relevant again with Mine decks.
Imagine a world where destiny board letter cards all had effects that on activation then shuffle them back to deck if you actually played them outside of Destiny Board. It may actually be interesting then.
Hopefully Konami is taking notes :) we can get new cards that count as the letter cards that have effects!
@@CardMasterBrian That is what i was thinking as well. It would let the deck's core idea actually work and could be really fun to play around with.
@@Kloqdq My friend plays the Destiny Board deck using the new cards... thing is that he relies heavily on mystic mine.
@@CardMasterBrian Oh yeah a fun win con. that is made even more fun by the addition of Mystic Mine.
I think i'd rather play against FTK then another Mystic Mine stall deck XD
Today:"Why Nobody Plays Destiny Board"
Few weeks later:"Commenter Don't know Destiny Board"
well just skimming these comments is a goldmine of content
@@thelenneh409 hope Doug see it and review it if he think about to make it
"Commenters don't know" is basically the Part 2 of these vids.
The Spirit messages really should get a retrains that give them continous effects which prevent your opponent from targeting or destroying your spell traps, impose limits on special summoning or negate monster effects.
"Why Nobody Plays" is one of my favorite topics you cover, and alternate win conditions are always neat to hear about, so I'd love seeing more from you!
You know an archtype is bad when they give it a spell that could potentially draw you 5 cards. (Banish Dark Spirit Mastery, shuffle all 5 pieces into the deck from the grave, draw 5.)
I remember getting all 5 of these via trading and getting booster packs back then. I felt invincible, but there were very few instances in which I actually could get all the cards out on the field.
Why nobody plays Flying Elephant.
It just writes itself.
poor dumbo
You should do "Why Nobody Plays ___ Anymore", continuing this series but highlighting formerly good cards that fell from power.
Nobody plays destiny board because we're all focused on trying to figure out what Pot of Greed does
Destroy 2 cards the head judge controls in their GY, face sideways
What does pot of greed do?
Apparently Pot of Greed jokes will never get old in this community. Whoops, I meant "I still don't know what it does!" Yuk yuk yuk
I've been waiting for this since dzeef did the Exodia one.
When I was a kid I got so excited when I got the destiny board cards. I think I got them off once and I may or may not have been cheating
babysinclairfan I won on my first attempt using it. I have won a couple times with it, but don't always use it.
They would play it if it spelled out Deep-Eyes White Dragon and instead of winning the duel it searched Deep-Eyes when completed
That would only work if you could use your opponents field aswell for the messages.
Was looking forward to why nobody plays Jerry Beans Man but this satisfied my needs
Appreciate the time you put into your vids Doug 👏
wdym,every meta deck runs jerry beans man at 3
The reason no one plays Jerry Beans Man. Is that decks are too focused on big long combos on turn one.
A wnp Jerry beens man would be a great April fools meme video
I mean, 1750 atk is kinda op, so people dont play Jerry Beans in order to not get hate xd
If you don't play Jerry beans man, you are playing yugioh wrong
I want "occult" to be good so bad, all I can think is retrained letters or a link Necrofear/new destiny board that gains effects that locks your opponent the more letters you get
"BUT I PLAY DESTINY BOARD!!!"
inb4 "inb4 but I play destiny board comment" comment.
Also, about Dark Sanctuary winning more games than Dedtiny Board, can confirm lol.
I can almost hear Yami Bakura laughing in the background.
I remember making a destiny board deck back when I played tag force every day after school and was underwhelmed at how bad it was. Things like card trader blocked me out from my own strategy so I couldn’t use any stall spells or traps. And if I wanted to revive a monster I couldn’t use all of the haunted. Basically the only strategy was to play “not destroyed by battle monsters and see if the AI could get around it.
Destiny Board has always been cool imo. Never considered making one because obvious reasons but still a cool concept
Just recently got back into the game about mid to late 2018 after having left the game for 7 years because I didn't like the direction, but your videos and other channels like TGSAnime and TheDuelLogs had revived my love for the game, and I've swiftly been picking up on how the game's changed and really love a lot of the new Archetypes.
Epic, you can enjoy the game and you are not a yugiboomer that says "back in my days the game was better because bla bla bla".
I think that if they made new "Spirit Message" cards with like Bonus effect to not brick in your hand, then we will see some Destiny Board shenanigans, but I guess it would be too good for a win condition card.
How about the effects affecting both players? Like blocking all summons for two turns, all enemy monsters lose attacks for each player's attack phase, etc. And the new Destiny Board makes it so the cards must be played if possible so you have to time Destiny Board when you're sure you can stay alive and defend backrow until L hits the field while slowly losing backrow slots
why nobody plays timelords if you haven't already
Timelord Trains was a thing for a little while
Joey who need time lords when you got time waizard lol.
@@Hornetog9vp time wizard is obviously a staple 3 of in timelords,its op because your monsters are never destroyed!
jokes aside,timelords have some cool shit they can do with their anti destruction effects,like dark hole n stuff and since you usually keep 1 on the field mystic mine works okay with them
still rely completely on burn and are pretty hard to actually do stuff with when any non destruction removal hard counters the entire deck
I play timelords
I'm pretty sure I have seen at least Metaion and another time Lord top a tournament or two...
I'm pretty sure Metaion was a side deck option for a while
A few proposals for why nobody plays:
-most structure decks
-Raigeki/Dark Hole/Mirror Force
-flip monsters (aside from shadoll/guru)
-life point gain cards
-multiple copies of utility links (ex: knightmarea)
-equip spells (that aren’t revival/broken)
-atk reduction cards (that don’t have other effects)
-polymerization (in non-archetypal fusion decks)
-atk boosting field spells
-link 5 cards
-Gamble cards
-atk/defense swappers
-high defense walls
-exchange
-yu jo friendship(lolol)
-(vanilla) trap hole
-Supply Squad
-orichalchos
-destroyed by battle floaters(ex: mystic tomato)
-union monsters (oldschool ones anyways)
-gemini moneters
-piercing beaters
-magic hats
-defusion
I’ll admit some of these are way too general, were probably already covered, straight up wrong/misplaced or contrary to the standards of WNP, but I just wanted to throw a bunch of ideas out there.
Gemini was meta once, but it was just Neos Alius in HERO Beat for his stats and Gemini Spark. You'd never gemini summon him, but those two cards have a lot of tops
But people do play raigeki. Why else do you think it's still limited.
This is probably the best one in the series! I really enjoyed the discussion on modern support.
I think it's cool when they add support like that. Destiny Board always felt like such a let down when the anime made it seem so powerful.
Anyway, I agree with another comment that you could do a "Why Somebody Plays" for rogue strategies.
Destiny Board looks powerful in the anime for the same reason a lot of "antagonist of the week" cards do: almost nobody runs destruction effects in the show.
i love playing destiny board with necrofear on master duel. there is a funny combo that you can do with destiny board, sentence of doom, and battle fader. battle fader is a fiend monster that you play from your hand when your opponent direct attacks and it ends the battle phase immediately but is banished when it leaves the field. sentence of doom allows you to once per turn retrieve fiend monsters from banished or graveyard up to the number of destiny board/spirit message you have on the field. essentially what it does is let you indefinitely recycle battle fader and become untouchable. they can just destroy your traps but i think its a neat combo that allows you to stall for the destiny board win condition.
Doesnt really help it be good
Hey Doug why not make a new vid for the Sacred Beast and call it "Why people Should try 'blank' ". Because sacred beast is getting some fun support cards.
I think you can get rid of the "probably" on if Mallet +1 would be banned, lol
what manga is that profile pic from. It looks cool.
It seems you overlooked that Dark Spirit's Mastery can also place cards from the graveyard to the bottom of the deck resulting in actual "free" draws. (I'm not saying this makes it any more viable you still have to play destiny board)
Dzeef at the beginning: alright assholes no one can defend this crap!
Fun fact: With sentence of doom you can infinitely loop battle fader to your hand as long as you control another letter, since it can target both banished fiends and fiends in the graveyard.
I play it and have been before the new support cards and when they came out I ordered them in right away something about game ended decks I just love
Hey Doug, how would you feel about this revamp of Destiny Board? Instead of having the letters in your deck, move the I N A L to the extra deck and give them protection effects. I know it wouldn't be the most amazing thing but I feel like moving the bricks to the extra deck would give the deck a lot more consistency. They should probably receive some monster cards that can act as lightning rods to protect the spirit messages.
That would probably be the only way to make it a viable strategy. But then you'd have people saying it was too OP and demanding it be banned. Can't please anybody in TCGs.
The spirit messages should have what Dzeef mentioned, 1 for 1 effects like "destroy 1 card" or something then shuffle it back into the deck.
Triple waking the dragons wants to have a word with you
@@Flexy59 how would waking the dragon work if the effect text contains "can only be brought out of the extra deck by the effect of destiny board" or "banish this card once destiny board leaves the field". You could easily add some card text to make it pointless to cheat it out of the extra deck.
@@tartantulakid666 makes sense my brain stops thinking after 5am sorry
Great video! Glad to see this series is back!
Great video Dzeeff !! :)
This video is very informative 😄
As always, great video. Also I have an idea, "What happened to Raigeki?" like the "What happened to Fiendish Chain?" video. I'm curious about why it fell out of favor.
Still limited.
Don't know you but I still see Raigeki all the time. The only reason I don't play it in either of my decks is that Dinosaurs prefer Dark Hole since it doubles as the unironically best combo starter of the deck, Crystal Abundance is just too good to pass up only my Tribrigade-Crystal deck, my Six Samurai deck couldn't care less about how many monsters my opponent has, since it can very easily FTK going first or drop a monster with infinite Atk going second; my Ancient Gear and Train decks need my opponent to have SOMETHING I can beat up with Giant and Liebe, and the Flunderzee/Winged Dragon of Ra deck has Soul Crossing and Sphere Mode.
Paleozoic Marrella goes great In altergeist. Example. When you activate it, you send altergeist camouflage to grave. The reason for this, because altergeist camouflage protects altergeist cards by banishing it.
It helps with deck thinning, as well as the grave as a interruption. Also once the Paleozoic is in grave, it’ll revive back as a monster trap.
Why did you spam this comment five times?
Is this even a question? I mean 5 no effect backrow cards that have to be on the field AT THE SAME TIME and one it's a trap
I remember getting excited when I first learned of the Destiny Board (I think I got Message I first). But even my young mind knew it would probably be too hard to pull off once I read Destiny Board.
Oh well.
I lost to Final Countdown around 8 years ago because the person playing it had an unbreakable stall deck.
if the letters slowly gave you either, more protection to prevent them all getting wiped, or some more control power to the deck giving it an actual way to interact with the opponent it could probably be the "best" alt win con deck, being actually viable unlike venominaga etc. but not an, i go first i win any interaction i lose like exodia
If all the spirit messages had effects:
I: Spell/Traps you control cannot be destroyed by card effects.
N: When this card is placed on the field: Draw 2 cards.
A: When this card is placed on the field: Destroy all monsters your opponent controls.
(L doesn't need one since you win at that point)
Still not good, cause your opponent can just remove the cards from the field still.
Nonsense! The Destiny Board winning animation in "Stairway to the Destined" was the best way of winning by far!
Last time I was this early Old-school Yu-Gi-Oh! was still Old-school
just a simple destruction protection or a high def/atk fiend monster that cannot be destroyed by card effects while destiny board was on the field would help this deck extremely
Another way to go would be to have the I, N, A and L spirit messages trigger an effect when sent from the field to the graveyard, thematically kind of cool for the spirits to "take revenge" on their destroyer. Would make it easier to justify a "mash-up" with a non-dedicated Destiny Board deck.
I wish each letter protected the previous one, that way your opponent couldn’t just easily sweep your letters.
It was just a cool anime archetype that they printed and nerfed the shit out of from Yami and Bakura’s battle. Sounds like they are showing it some love after all these years.
I love when it spells out
Feath and I win, keeps my opponents guessing
If dark sanctuary would special summon destiny board or spirit message cards which are already in your spell/trap card zone as monsters it would be so much better. The uneffected by card effects really doesn't matter otherwise if you can just hit destiny board
I would rather look into the solutions for making Destiny Board better. some good things to note:
-Dark Sanctuary gives protection for the letters used as monsters, opening space for more diverse game play as Battle Damage protection
-Dark Spirit Mastery - incredble search effect, great effect from the Graveyard can be used also for free draws if those cards are in your GY, Discard effect could also be used as a benefit when the Fiend Monster line up would consist of a mix of Archfiend/Darkworld and the Dark Spirit/Necrofear monsters add Call of the Archfiends to it and it could combo really nicely and if you got also that Eradicator Virus that's a 3 turn spell or trap protection you can create for your Destiny Board.
-Sentence of doom when in multiples can Turbo Destiny Board even faster making it a 2/3 turn win scenario even if one of those letters is in your GY, also getting to use some of your monsters again can be very useful too if you picked the right cards to go with your deck.
-The Duel is put on a Timer thanks to Destiny board which can put pressure on some opponents depending on their decks
-Depending on the deckbuild it can give you various win conditions: Destiny Board, Dark Sanctuary as just a Beatdown from your monsters.
The cons/Weaknesses
-while it does give some protection 2 very important cards are still wide open: Dark Sanctuary and Destiny board itself
-all other letters Brick in opening hand which is really big negative
-it is very relient on the Deck and Extra Deck how well it does perform
What does it need in my opinion:
-A Extra Deck Monster who has build in Protection for both the Field Spell card as the Destiny Board Cards(there are probably extra deck monsters who could already function this position but a Necrofear XYZ/Synchro or Even Fusion would be great)
-A Main Deck Monster Card that can Summon itself by using Spirit message cards in your Hand/Field/GY with the effect to loop them back into the Deck
-An Extra Deck Monster that could be summoned by the Fang of Critias which part of it's effect is the same as Destiny Board itself as getting protection from Dark Sanctuary
-A card that lets you draw up to the number of Spirit message cards you have in your hand.
-A Fiend type Monster that has Battle-destruction Protections as forcing your opponent to attack it with all monsters as receiving 0 damage while through Dark Sacntuary burning your opponent lifepoints basically turning their own board against them.
I do remember the only time I won a duel at a local back in the GX era. I played DB at my opponent's first End Phase, and he was unable to stop it from there. He even told me that the only reason it worked, was because he could not draw his MST in time.
"Why your casual cards are not competitively played"
I truly believe that one day they get a new support card like Bakura ace monster got new support why not his Ace spell/trap card
This is a great idea, I like the change to more interesting discussion :)
Hey, i just wanted to say that I love your analysis content. Maybe you could do a series taking a look at some different deck archetypes that are currently too weak to see play and point out some flaws and maybe support that they could get which would push them into viability. Awesome content as always.
funfact to 3:30 iirc some VIDEO GAMES did indeed require the cards to be left to right F I N A L.... which is maybe where that Assumption came from
13:58 It's better than a magical mallet. It's like a combination of magical mallet and pot of avarice.
To be honest, it would actually be worse if destroying one card didn't destroy all of them in most cases. Think about it, if you've got F I N and A up and your opponent blows up the F, what happens to your board? Your stuck with three spells that literally do nothing clogging up your S/T zones, and even if you do somehow recover with another Destiny Board, it HAS to activate the cards in order, leaving you with F I N A I, no zones, and no win. The new support can help with this situation, but most of the time you're better off just starting from scratch as to not shoot yourself in the foot.
The best use of Destiny board is to tribute the spirit messages for Hamon
And then drop Phantasmal Martyrs to Link spam ftw! :3
I just love how as you're talking about this unplayable deck the card art is just a giant F.
Just errata the spirit messages to be place-able from hand. It won't make the card competitively viable but at the very least it's something. It would create an interesting dynamic where your opponent would have to MST it asap in case you have the remaining messages in hand instead of knowing for sure they are safe for 4 turns.
If the destiny board strategy played like a control deck. I think that would be a lot more fun
Because it takes up all your spell slots, makes your deck constantly reshuffle giving you even less of a draw chance, and because all you have to do is wait for D-E-A-T or F-I-N-A and hit Destiny board with Mystical Space Typhoon and the entire board is cleared.
It would be cool if there was a destiny board retrain that brought out a series of lettered monsters from the extra deck in order, each one getting harder to get rid of till the last one has like 8,000 atk or something
I still remember Yugioh4RealMens Herald of Destiny deck. Summon Herald of Perfection to block your opponent until you can activate Destiny Board. As "I" "N" and "A" were activated and his opponent struggled to out the Herald he tributed the 3 letters for Hamon Lord of Striking Thunder and attacked for game. That guy was lightyears beyond the meta.
I think a cool concept for destiny board support would be that they could be used for a archetypal xyz monster summon that can either use the destiny board cards for a win condition or, as negation tools.
Other people's alternate win condition: final countdown
Me, an intelectual: 3 wave motion cannon
Had a Destiny board deck back when it launched. It won on occasion, but took a lot of luck. Used cards like messenger of peace, waboku and Imperial Decree to help stall, but can also remove themselves if I needed board space.
the most fun thing about Destiny Board is arranging the letters to spell silly words.
it was funny to me when I was 7 and it's still funny to play Scrabble during a game of Yu-Gi-Oh
Imagine having 4 of the 5 cards out and your opponent Lightning storms you in the face
This was overdue. Good video.
"why nobody plays venominaga" fits both the big boss monster which is weird to summon and the alternate win condition category
If Konami make more good reptile monsters and support then venominaga will be good
The venom archetype sucks. Video over.
@@jaspertyler4557 It needs way better support, yeah
@@xgongivittoya1931 Honestly, if they gave Venominaga it's anime effect, where you win the duel 3 turns after it inflicts battle damage to your opponent, it would still be useless just because of how hard to summon it is.
i remember using it correctly back in the days, using Cat of ill omen to search for it, mix it with a defensive play using monster and way to empty the deck asap(like monsters summoning more from the deck, and when i played destiny board, if my opponent was waiting for a few letter to appear before destroying it, he was doomed, i had 3 copy of *cold wave* just for that, start of my turn playing cold wave, mix it with magician of fate etc to get it back if i needed, so i lock my opponent from playing any magic and trap and destroying my destiny board, monster with the ability to destroy spell and trap were very rare back in that day. but i stopped playing it, when *LAST TURN* was added, i had a very competitive deck based on last turn, winning half the time in my first 2-3 turn sometime i had it set on my very first turn not allowing my opponent to do anything on his turn and die right there, good old days XD where no one wanted to play agains me for fun. or every of my friend was using minar in their deck to counter me, witch i did counter with hallowed life barrier etc later on..
It's like destiny board was given as many restrictions as possible to keep it from being good.
You have to play the cards in a specific order, and you can't play one immediately from the hand when you draw into it.
You can't pull spirit messages from your graveyard, so you can't just play another copy of destiny board without multiples of the spirit messages.
They all go to the graveyard when one is destroyed, so you can't repair your board.
It's designed to be trash.
I really, really want the "Backrowxodia" to be the fan term for Destiny Board.
I am a destiny board player and I can agree that it is not a really popular deck, but I can say it is really fun to play it and having no one expect it at locals
Its like a more fun exodia in concept with getting little messages from a ouija board but its so hard to pull off.
Truly the main problem is not with the I N A or L spell cards doing nothing. Its the trap itself. Destiny board and that final piece of text. When a spirit message or this card leaves the field, destroy all other spirit messages you control. Thats the main problem with this deck. Dark Sanctuary is great that it turns the messages into monsters when summoned and they become immune to card effects and being attacked. If it also protected Destiny Board, that would have been what we really needed.
hmm.. trying to consider a more fair retrain of the strategy... How about:
(f) unchanged
(i) add "when this card is summoned by (f), lower the attack of all opponents monsters by 500 times the number of (letters) on your field as long as this card remains on the field."
(n) add "when this card is summoned by (f), all effects that target a destiny board or spirit message you control are redirected to this card while it remains on the field. when this card is sent from the field to the graveyard by card effect, play 1 (f) and (i) from your graveyard [they are treated as summoned by (f)]"
(a) add "when this card is summoned by (f), disable one zone of your choice while this card remains on the field"
(l) add "you can discard this card from your hand to add one (letter) to your hand"
notes on my shorthand: i use the letters to indicate the cards, not their full names. if the proposed effect says (letter), it means any piece of FINAL.
Very late comment here but wanted to speak my thoughts on it.
I love Bakura's deck theme with occult and paranormal cards. I'm not a tournament league duelist I'm at best adept. I can build good rogue decks but I've just never tried building anything otk speed, I just don't like duels to end that fast.
Destiny board was one of the most troublesome set of cards to try and make work, second only to trying to summon exodia necross (I love exodia necross to death, but it's summon condition is murder) the only somewhat feasible method I had found for it was to run a deck of all monsters and anything else being copies of destiny board cards and deck shuffling, recycling or draw power and all the monsters being time Lord's, of which the majority of the entire deck was timelords. Years ago timelords were ridiculously difficult to contend with monster to monster so they were the only thing I could think of that could stay consenstent and keep coming out to protect the field while destiny board did it's thing. This was before I had access to timelords support, at this time only the monsters existed. All the test results was the deck just turned out to be an infinite deck by way of the timelords that just stalled for 30-50+ turns at a time because often AI would blow up pieces of destiny board and I'd have to start again or just finish them with timelords.
Considering I hear nothing about timelords in the current meta, I'm gonna presume even with whatever support they may have gotten, even they cannot help destiny board sadly.
Honestly if they want to make this deck competitive they should make a Spell or trap card that lets you use the Spirit messages in your hand, so we don't have to wait for the opponents turn.
And to make it fair, that specific card will be limited to 1 copy.
I played a destiny board deck ... I paired it with Herald Fairies and most important Herald Of Perfection way before it got those other support cards. It worked well enough to beat some meta decks back then with reasonable consistense.
Two quick notes. Dark Spirit Mastery also retrieves from GY, wich is absolutely CRUCIAL as it gives you a comeback chance if your opponent blows up Destiny Board and the Spirit Messages.
Magical Mallet actually DID shuffle itself back to the deck in the Anime, and if it worked like this in the TCG or let you draw an extra card it ABSOLUTELY would see a lot of play and would get Limited at the very least. Just look at Moray of Greed, wich does work like that and is a staple 3-of in every WATER deck in existance.
Morey of greed doesn't work like that though
@@phantomnite it effectively does the same, it resets 2 monsters from the hand and draws 3 cards, thus going hand neutral. It does not recycle itself reusable, but if you draw more than 1 you can fire them off one after another.
@@joanaguayoplanell4912 yeah but it still doesn't recycle itself
Thank you for inspiring me to build a destiny board deck.
I remember these cards from that series, once insane back then it was like Exodia, I was on the hunt for the whole word of FINAL, I only gotten 2 or 3 of them though back in the old days.
Yay so glad that this series is back
The Necrofears are actually really great in Infernoids and some of the bigger ones can be used in recycling your Infernoids when you run out of steam from Monster Gates
I'm only at the 1:43 timestamp, and I already know why this card is bad.
1. One MST or something similar, BANG, you'll have to start all over again.
2. Spirit Messages are Lightsworn Wulf in your hand(Wulf is how I say Garnets)
3. Continuous Spell or traps cards could not be used.
4. You have to wait four of you opponent's turns to win.
5. If all of one letter was in your graveyard or banished zone, you lost.
You would have no choice but to lay your hand on the deck.
It was slow even back then, plenty of opportunities for the opponent to pop it, and you could have a hand of Wulfs if you was not careful.