Rarran: "Maybe like draw 3 but banish the last card you draw, you'd probably take the risk of banishing something" The playerbase about the actual card that does that: "Only a quarter of my deck? You got it. Want me to throw in my firstborn?"
You know, I wonder where the line is. Like, if there was a pot card that let your opponent declare a card(s) you couldn't use for the rest of the duel, would that be worth it? What about if it let them look through your deck and FD banish something? What about if it put you on 1LP so any kind of burn or successful attack did it? Because there are some things we don't do for a +1. There is a line somewhere. I'm just curious where it is.
Card Destruction only needs at least 1 player to be able to discard and draw. If it is the only card in your hand, you can still activate it as long as your opponent has at least 1 card in their hand. Similarly, if your opponent’s hand is empty, you need at least 1 other card in order to active it.
Yea I was about to say the same thing. It's been years since I've ever played the card (I only play goat format and 2006 but this card is hella bad during those times) but I believe that just one player needs to have a card for it to resolve. It neither player would have cards then it cannot resolve and thus, cannot activate.
It's also why the card destruction ftks work, cause on almost all, if not all, you card destruction while having no cards on your hand except card des, you also have no deck and your opponent's hand is over their remaining deck, so you can just card des, you dont draw cards and they cant draw enough and lose by overdecking
I see we didn't want to bring Rarran to the realm of Pendulum monsters yet. I get it, but I REALLY hope that the rating videos you do with him, CGB, LSV, whoever comes next for pendulums ends up being the video where people are like "oh, I get it. Stupid, but I get it."
I think one thing cimoo forgot to mention about Pot of Avarice is that if you recycle extra deck monsters your deck doesn't lose consistency when drawing
Has something happened to him? I only watch these “TCG player rates cards” videos when they show up on my recommended & I’ve been watching the old progression series. Hope he’s doing alright.
@@HeavensOfMetal He posted a video where he explained that he would be having a major surgey that will remove his large intestine and will take some time off from content creation for the surgery and the recovery process.
11:06 Rarran saying "this card became good because an archetype supported it" and then following that up with saying that it probably wouldn't see play in Hearthstone is crazy. Cataclysm had to get changed so that it no longer discards your entire hand simply because discard warlock got enough support. Discard warlock would play the shit out of card destruction, and if it costed anything less than like 6 mana, it would be a tier 0 deck.
Having a combo card that does what both imp + cata/library did in terms of hand discard would be absolutely bonkers. Its literally an unprintable card with the current precedent set, you simply cannot give discard warlock access to that. Its too much.
I've just recently discovered this series and binged it. I absolutely loved the guests, the knowledge of different TCG's being exchanged and the length of the episodes 🫶 Keep it up!
Random Suggestion; Rarrans had videos where he gets creators to "rank" Hearthstone cards from a specific type. Try doing the same with all the "Pot" cards that came after Pot of Greed and see if people can figure out which ones are the strongest.
Well some of them are context dependent depending on the deck. Some decks, you don't want to banish random cards from your ED for Extrav. Lab or Eldlich, it's just Pot of Greed. Some don't mind banishing 10 as long as you can combo off for Desires (or if they benefit from having banished cards). Virtual World can, with Nyannyan, recover facedown banished cards Etc, etc
7:05 I think Cimo mistook Card Destruction ruling with Hand Destruction's. Card Destruction says "as many as possible" whilst Hand Destruction requires both players to discard exactly 2 cards
I don't think so, I think he just misremembered, because Card Destruction DOES need at least ONE player to have a card in hand, he just thought it was both players.
41:20 "If this card was still at 3 copies people would play it at three". It has actually been at 3 copies since the start of 2024 and it's rarely played. With the already insane consistency of modern decks and abundance of good generics, there's no need to play a card that's just a +0 when you could instead just put handtraps or boardbreakers in that slot instead, which you would much rather draw than upstart. The only time I remember a +0 draw being ran in a recent meta deck was a while ago in the OCG where Snake-eyes played 3 Chicken Game after limits to WANTED and Ash, which is because it also serves as a face-up card to send with Diabellstar after it's drawn you a card, technically making it a +1 instead of a +0. The fact that 3x Upstart is no longer a thing really shows how deckbuilding in Yugioh has changed. The main goal of free-slots in decks went from "more cards to find key pieces to your combo" to "more cards to stop your opponent from doing their combo".
Another factor is that a lot of decks now really don't care about sticking to 40 cards because of the combination of already very high consistency along with garnets that become worse in smaller decks. And obviously if you're already going over 40 then upstart becomes pointless (although there are still a couple exceptions of course).
I think it's had some play in Sky Striker, but it's just not as good as having 3 extra handtraps/utility options (like Fiendsmith line) now that every deck is playing like 9+ one card starters.
25:40 So as terrible as Yamata was the VAST majority of it's life, it did have one moment. It was briefly teched in Dragon Ruler as a SOMETIMES card as they full well legitimately could field the 2 tributes needed to pop it onto the board. It gets better because Yamata is a fire dragon, and thus fully valid for both of Blaster's effects, and a level 7 so it already slots in with all their support. Yamata would often be supplanted in it's spot by Obelisk the Tormentor, as Obelisk was very difficult to out in the mirror outside of another Obelisk, but it wasn't unreasonable to see Yamata come down itself and just dunk some people off the earth by drawing 3-5 cards.
I don’t get how the card is bad lol. Maybe it’s more of a recent card than I think it is. Early Yu gi oh 2600 atk isn’t bad at all, and a free full hand is cracked. Giving up 2 monsters 100% worth
@@LegitLord2000 It's a sprit monster. Can't be special summoned + spirit monsters don't stay on field after the end phase unless negated, reducing your board presence
@7:00 *Card Destruction can be used so long as at least one player has a card in hand.* If _both_ players have zero cards in hand (or no cards other than _that_ copy of Card Destruction in the case of the person playing it from hand), *then* Card Destruction cannot legally be used. Under Konami (I don't recall it from the Upper Deck days), you also _cannot_ use Card Destruction if you have fewer cards left in your deck than you have in your hand. All of this is - or at least _was_ - quite relevant given the combo of Card Destruction and Serial Spell. Serial Spell *does* require you have a card in hand to discard for its cost, but I'm talking about how - if your hand size exceeded your remaining deck size - you wouldn't be able to play Card Destruction, even if you planned on chaining Serial Spell to it and thus emptying out your hand.
upstart is at 3 and nobody but striker plays it because it does nothing on turn 0. drawing an upstart rather than a handtrap will more often than not lose you the game.
A few decks run it but. You usually have to look at it as "engine" instead of ur non-engine staples. White forest has also been running it lately but still maintains high hand trap ratios
@@KeshavKrishnan If the deck is a combo deck, which decks light on handtraps basically always are, then it is just true that there will be other draws and searches. The exception is a trap deck, but trap decks avoid spells in general because of trap theory, playing them very sparingly. If you don't play handtraps, and you're not being punished for drawing cards, cycling is just good.
If I recall Morphing Jar was apart of the initial ban wave. Actually why I quit early on. 500 bucks thrown away felt really bad. I use to play my hand finish with Card Destruction then flip Morphing Jar protected by a trap hole since back then everyone was playing stuff like Gemini or another 1900 power card and watch my opponent cry as they discarded their hand twice. It was a simpler time back then.
One other thing to mention, in regards to Beginning of the End, is that the draw 3 rarely builds towards something. If you're committed to dumping 15 monsters, there's very little else you can really do besides, I guess, draw into traps---which your opponent may have answers to. And, if you've spent all those monsters on extra deck plays, then chances are you're already setup and there's very little that you can actually _do_ with those draws that your board can't already do. (There's little point in drawing removal/negate/whatever cards if your big boss monsters are doing that anyway.)
The costs for it are also quite high. 7+ DARK monsters in grave is a bit too high for a deck to hit turn one unless it's specifically going for mass graveyard shenans (in which case, BotE works against by removing those resources from the grave), and banishing the monsters essentially makes them unrecyclable compared to Avarice's shuffling back into the deck. It just doesn't really have a viable niche.
Damn, kinda wish Cimooooo had pulled out Ursarctic Radiation but I guess evaluating that is kinda a wash without knowing how god awful my space bears are.
One thing that Cimo didn't mention about Pot of Avarice is, it doesn't specify the monsters need to be Main Deck monsters. This was a big part of its strength, putting back Extra Deck monsters (most of which you'd only run at 1 copy) so you could bring them out again if you had the material, letting you either redo your deck's main combos or just have more options to deal with the board. Shuffling back Extra Deck monsters also means you wouldn't hurt the consistency of your Main Deck and makes it far easier to meet the 5 monster requirement than just Main Deck monsters would've.
Beginning of the End's current PSCT reads "If you have 7 or more DARK monsters in your GY: Banish 5 DARK monsters from your GY; draw 3 cards." so your opponent cannot disrupt this the same way as Pot of Avarice
Others have mentioned, but you can activate Card Destruction in any circumstance where it would affect the game on resolution. By that, the only case where it can't activate is if you *and* your opponent have no cards in hand, because that's the only case where it would do nothing.
17:33 extra thing about pot of greed's notoriety - not only did everyone run pot of greed in the anime, everyone also explained every time exactly what it does.
Masked Sorcerer is more or less a meta card in Critter Format. The format is slow and resource dependant enough that it's feasible and relevant to resolve an effect like that, it gets under Trap Hole with 900 ATK and can be searched in a variety of ways.
19:20 He actually makes a pretty great point, this was especially in contention with Upstart Goblin in that you could argue that decks are already so consistent that they would prefer to see handtraps to interact on the opponent's turn instead of effectively a blank card. Now unlike Upstart Goblin, Pot of Greed and Graceful Charity are a different subject just because they're so egregious in card advantage why wouldn't you run them. But it is interesting that excessive consistency CAN end up being a hinderance and is usually taken into consideration in deck building.
It's not that UG makes decks "too" consistent, the problem is that UG is a brick on your turn 0. If you're going first, UG reduces your deck size - simple as that. If you're going second, playing 3 UG instead of, say, 2 handtraps and 1 starter, makes your deck less consistent¹ because you cannot cycle UG for a handtrap on that turn. UG is not played in decks when it would make them less consistent going second. Smaller decks also play worse with engine requirements because bad cards to draw dilute the average power per card more in a small deck than a big one, so one might also avoid UG when playing too many engine requirements. Playing more cards increases the average power of your hands in those cases. ¹In a bit more detail, "consistency" when going first roughly equals "the odds of drawing enough combo pieces on my first turn." When going second on the other hand, "consistency" roughly equals "the odds of drawing enough handtraps in my opening hand and also drawing enough combo pieces on my first turn." UG helps with the "drawing enough combo pieces" part either way, but it hinders the "drawing enough handtraps" part.
@delta3244 My brother in christ I quite literally said that. Also, I wasn't bringing that point up specifically because of Upstart Goblin, it was just one of several good examples of how being as consistent as you possibly can be isn't the solution to everything in Yugioh.
@@ARadiantHero I was nitpicking "...excessive consistency CAN be a hinderance...," because the problem with UG is that it lowers consistancy. It doesn't raise consistency to be "too high" and cause problems through it, it lowers consistency. UG being bad is not an example of chasing incremental gains in consistency being bad. It is an example of chasing those gains being good, because UG is excluded where excluding it increases consistency. "Chasing small gains in inconsistency can be bad past a certain point" is a bad takeaway from "UG is bad in most decks."
@delta3244 I can understand what you're trying to say, but I just don't agree with your nitpicking. Upstart Goblin is a consistency piece in that it is making it more likely to see every single other card in your deck if you are on the minimum deck amount, there is nothing to argue here. It does not matter that it isn't something like a ROTA, it doesn't matter if it's bad or good in the current game, and it does not matter if the card you see off of it is unusable, that is irrelevant to the point I was trying to make because that is a separate issue altogether. If it is a card that is made to see other cards more often, then that is what it is. Admittedly, I left a lot of details out because I was trying to make a very simple statement so if anyone saw the comment, they would understand even if they didn't play Yugioh very much. But I still stand by that point and even as recent as Snake-Eyes format there have been examples of not needing as much consistency as you can possibly run because of the examples we both agree on, as well as redundancy. You CAN run an ultra consistent deck with max copies of Upstart, Chicken Game, Into the Void, Pot of Greed and Graceful, but Yugioh isn't just about seeing your good cards as often as possible. You can make concessions about "Do I want to run the maximum amount of starters and consistency pieces possible, or do I want to cut down on them for other cards, or do I want to make my deck count larger so I see the cards I don't want to see less often" and be rewarded for it. I play Phantom Knights (if you couldn't tell from my pfp lmao) to a relatively competitive extent and if you know anything about the current iteration of that archetype, these are issues I have to manage constantly and am always changing. Also Upstart Goblin isn't even a bad card, it's just currently unnecessary. But it wouldn't take THAT much for that card to start seeing play again.
Even Pot of Greed wouldn't be played in the best Decks today I don't think. They are already so hyper consistent that you'd rather play a board breaker or handtrap in that slot instead.
I could be wrong; but I think the difference between Pot of Avarice and The Beginning of the End is that Pot of Avarice is more susceptible to counter play due to the fact that it requires you to target the cards (and if one is removed it becomes invalid even if you still meet the minimal count); whereas Beginning of the End can only be countered if you are put below the minimal requirement (i.e. if you still have 7 or more cards after your opponent removes one, you can still remove 5 of the remaining since it doesn't specify that they're being targeted).
Whats weird with card destruction and Morphing jar from a HS perspective is the disruption you can do to your opponent with these cards, especially if your playing a warlock card destruction deck. because your basically going positive with your cards (kind of like dark world in yugioh) wile making your opponent hate you for getting rid of potential combo cards as unlike yugioh, the graveyard is not a thing and the cards discarded by hand are gone basically forever. these kinds of cards in HS would be considered some of the most toxic cards in the game especially in wild.
First time watching this series and it was way more enjoyable than I thought it might be. I love seeing his thought process evolving with more knowledge. Especially to the point where he theory crafted his own card
I'd love to see Rarran's thoughts on three of my favorite meme-y cards: Cursed Seal of the Forbidden Spell, Mystical Refpanel and Ordeal of a Traveller.
To be honest, I think Rarran is on to something. I think the consistency improvement to decent but not good enough decks would be much greater than it would be to already ultra consistent decks. Playing Master Duel, I've never seen a Centurion, Snake Eyes, Yubel, or a Voiceless player brick...EVER.
kinda unrelated but toon masked sorc has a nifty combo in Performage Toon rank 4, basically use Trapeze Magician on Mask Sorc or Gemini Elf (both level 4 spellcasters btw) to +2 yourself or -2 the opponent. Toon Kingdom protects the toon monster from Trapeze's destruction so you don't lose material, gives you some protection from damage so leaving a weak monster like sorc in attack becomes less of an issue.
That "Pot of banish" Rarran came up with seems like the perfect addition to a Thunder Dragon deck, it's like if Gold Sarc and Allure of Darkness had a baby :p
The good thing about Trap Draw cards in older yugioh is that they can bait your opponent's destruction effects. They target to destroy and you just chain so you kind of plus one by making them waste a card. Was always a great feeling when you chain your Jar of Greed to your opponent's MST that was targeting it. It's funny that Cimo says this tactic is only just now becoming popular in retro formats because I did that all the time when I was a kid.
To answer rarrans question about what would happen if graceful and PoG where at 3 right now, I don't agree with Cimo that nothing would change. Apart from droll being a must main I think either sky striker, dark world or purrely would rush to the top of tier 1. I think of all the meta decks only ryzeal (which isn't even out) would significantly improve with 3 pots. Purrely with 6 free draw spells and gy setup would be crazy, you guys have no idea. First you get to draw street almost every hand so you instantly invalidate half the hand traps your opponent has. Your deck can easily get to double noir with enough spells in rotation and your engine is pretty good going second so you can cut on the hand traps for more pots. I'd definitely try purrely first if they came back tomorrow.
Masked sorc is a good card in critter. I play one copy in Muka Muka Turbo. but in that format its all about setting monsters and keepig your opponent guessing. set witch, set la jinn, set this guy, set soldier of stone. just keep them guessing until you can build up for a gameshot with last will cannon soldier raigeki and reborn or whatever else needed to go for game.
Minute 19: he has an amazing point yes the good decks would be more consistent but consistency isnt linear. Thats why its not optimal to run 18 starters for example. So those meta decks already have around 90% consistency and would only slightly increase in consistency while worse decks would have a higher jump. Making it probably more beneficial for inconsistent roge decks. Thats why cards like pot of prosperety are way more impactful in worse strategies then in top meta decks. So yes while annoying I do belive pot of greed isnt close as unhealthy to the game as commonly discussed. GC has to stay banned thougj as it enables combos and set up
Though I see the argument you're trying to make, and this is why modern deck don't run upstart goblin anymore (the small upside in consistency isn't worth the potential brick going second), you're missing 2 way more important factors. - First off, these cards are absolutely toxic as they make the game more affected by the coin flip and luck dependant in general as opening pot of greed or graceful charity over not opening them is a huge power swing, even when going second. They are in some ways even less balanced than Maxx C, for providing important card advantage but by favoring player 1 even more. And yes, even if they were to always trade 1 for 1 with an ash, it's an upside. - Second, even though the consistency increase they provide would be more important to less consistent, more degenerate strategies. It's important to remember these meta decks are already so consistent that they can afford to run ~40% if not sometimes ~60% staples, hand traps, etc. So, despite not really improving the combos they would make, these cards would provide more answers and counters to their opponent's strategy. Thus, providing value potentially even higher than the consistency gain to other decks. This is why these cards should never be unbanned and why almost all pot restrains are atleast being limited and even sometimes banned to this day.
To answer Raran’s question about Graceful Charity/Pot of Greed being fine because modern top tier decks are already incredibly consistent, the issue would then be that these decks could just dig for non engine. Graceful Charity in particular would be insane because you could just discard redundant hand traps. Like you don’t care about discarding your second copy of Ash because it has a HOPT. It’d also make side decked games incredibly swingy. The last thing the game needs is for decks to be able to dig for side deck pieces more consistently. That’s the main reason why Prosperity is as strong as it is and why it’s the strongest legal draw spell by a mile and in my opinion arguably the strongest draw spell of all time, only questionably behind Graceful Charity but absolutely ahead of Pot of Greed because none of the restrictions matter if it gets you to your 1 card starter or your turn ending side deck card like D Barrier. Meta decks would just use the draw spells to find hand traps in game 1 and side deck cards in game 2/3.
I remember the first time I built a deck that used 3 Pot of Avarice, it got hit just next format, along with several other cards in that deck. It used Fish monsters to get synchro material to draw with Librarian and my first turn ended ten minutes later with two Shooting Quasar Dragon and all pieces of Exodia in hand.
16:21 Morphin Jar would be insane in Hearthstone. Imagine activating all the discard synergies, while at the same time ruining your opponent's game plan
1:03:53 reminds me a lot about desires but kinda better, it would be more balanced if it banishes facedown a random card in your hand and it would totally see play without being more broken than necessary, it would end up at 1 tho.
I would argue that if you have a deck that has an insane ceiling but rarely gets to said ceiling then unbanning pot of greed and graceful might allow them to shake the meta. I can't think of any deck off the top of my head this would work with, but i do know that it would affect hyper consistent decks alot less than inconsistent ones.
very entertaining and refreshing video - more modern cards next time, please! However, a minor nitpick: Cimo did that one thing again, where he overstates how good an old card is - by accident or not, but it comes off that way. Dekoichi is completely terrible nowadays, but one might get the feeling that that is not the case after listening to how he describes the card. Yet another point I wanna mention: Cimo is great at baiting ngl
Card Destruction fun story: i was playing treasure Panda Exodia, my opponent went first, just set a card, and passed. I have no idea what he was playing. He hit me with Maxx C at the start of my turn. I had Treasure Panda in my starting hand, with a bunch of spells as draw cards/panda fodder fodder And Card Destruction was in my deck. My opponent banished one of my exodia pieces from my graveyard using his set Called by The Grave, and probably turned his toggles off. I played through most of my deck, extra deck included (there are quite a few extra deck monsters that are good for card draws in Treasure Panda exodia, let's take Formula Synchron, that level 3 cyberse synchro, corall dragon, or ravenous crocodragon as examples. But link spider, link 2 dark/earch charmers, seleene, accesscode could go into a neat combo if your opponent hits you with a dark/earch handtrap, with simply 2 normal monsters in hand, like 2 exodia limbs. The rest were just some nice beatsticks, like Baronne, Satellite Warrior, Stardust Charge Warrior, T.G. Hyper Librarian, etc.) Point is, my opponent Maxx C-d me, made sure I can't get to Exodia, and what I'd assume is he turned off his toggles. Because he had lover 25 cards in his hand by the time my combo finished, and I basically went through my whole deck. Than I hit him with card destruction, with my own hand almost empty. Deck Out victory. One of the 3 win cons of that deck. The Baronne/Accesscode combos are nice too, but generally Exodia himself is the main wincon.
... back in my days... the best part about masked sorcerer was setting it up turn one. If the opponent attacked it with a weaker monster to see what it was (like with a sangan, newdoria, witch of the black forest...), you would deal damage to them and draw a card. It was hilarious when it happened
In the 5D era video games, I liked running 3 jars and 3 legacies in a deck built for level 8 synchros. Probably not that great objectively, but it was fun to be able to target one of those with Scrap Dragon and then chain it to draw before the double pop. Mostly just wanted having the possibility of the MST dream but with a little something else to help justify it.
You can't activate a card where the conditions can't be met at all. There has to be at least one card that it can discard even with the "as possible" stipulation.
The Beginning of the End doesn't target the cards it removes so the only way for your opponent to disrupt it is to reduce the number of dark monsters in the graveyard below 5. With Pot of Avarice if any of the targeted cards leaves the graveyard the effect can't resolve.
Gotta love YuGiOh logic 😂 *Pot of Greed* _"Banned, +1 card advantage too strong!"_ *Maxx C* _"Your opponent can Special 20 times so we're gonna let you draw each time, because +20 card advantage is fine!"_
You know, that was the first time I've seeing Bokoichi somehow, and I thought the editor, edited in a sad cat at the end of it lol. After looking it up, that is indeed how it looks though.
Rarran, with the Yamata Dragon analysis Cimo didn't bait you, you baited yourself. You specifically asked Cimo if there were any way to get Yamata Dragon onto the field without tributes!
Beginning of the End is different from Pot of Avarice in that The beginning of the end does not target those 5 dark monsters so you don't have to select which ones first so if your opponent removes one it will still resolve. The 7 or more is an activation condition and if your opponent removes one to make you only have 6 it won't matter because the required condition was already met upon activation. The only problem you will run into is if your opponent makes you have less than 5 Dark monsters, then the card would not be able to resolve.
Rarran: "Maybe like draw 3 but banish the last card you draw, you'd probably take the risk of banishing something"
The playerbase about the actual card that does that: "Only a quarter of my deck? You got it. Want me to throw in my firstborn?"
It's just a pot of greed, but you can't play it with exodia unless you like gambling (people will still play this with exodia)
Good old pot of "neg 9"
You know the funniest part. I believe Steve showed Rarran Pot of Desires on Rarran's channel for a video
You know, I wonder where the line is. Like, if there was a pot card that let your opponent declare a card(s) you couldn't use for the rest of the duel, would that be worth it? What about if it let them look through your deck and FD banish something? What about if it put you on 1LP so any kind of burn or successful attack did it?
Because there are some things we don't do for a +1. There is a line somewhere. I'm just curious where it is.
@MercuryA2000 every card you listed would be played at 3 in 99% of decks
Card Destruction only needs at least 1 player to be able to discard and draw. If it is the only card in your hand, you can still activate it as long as your opponent has at least 1 card in their hand. Similarly, if your opponent’s hand is empty, you need at least 1 other card in order to active it.
Nice! Someone said it before me.
i think he confused it with hand destruction.
where both have to exactly discard 2.
Yea I was about to say the same thing. It's been years since I've ever played the card (I only play goat format and 2006 but this card is hella bad during those times) but I believe that just one player needs to have a card for it to resolve. It neither player would have cards then it cannot resolve and thus, cannot activate.
as far as I know this is the only card that works like this, purely because konami said so
It's also why the card destruction ftks work, cause on almost all, if not all, you card destruction while having no cards on your hand except card des, you also have no deck and your opponent's hand is over their remaining deck, so you can just card des, you dont draw cards and they cant draw enough and lose by overdecking
I see we didn't want to bring Rarran to the realm of Pendulum monsters yet. I get it, but I REALLY hope that the rating videos you do with him, CGB, LSV, whoever comes next for pendulums ends up being the video where people are like "oh, I get it. Stupid, but I get it."
What the flying fudd rucker is a pendulum summon ?!?!😂😂😂
@@918_xDxit’s when Konami decided it was okay to write 2 paragraphs of text on a card.
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Pendulum and Link are just... naaaaaaaaaah.
@@Bluejay575ain't this the truth made reading Last Turn look like a small paragraph compare to some pendulums cards.
I think one thing cimoo forgot to mention about Pot of Avarice is that if you recycle extra deck monsters your deck doesn't lose consistency when drawing
Yup why it got ban in first place when synchro was the new thing
Glad Cimo has some prerecorded videos. I love your channel. Hope you feel better.
Me too
Has something happened to him? I only watch these “TCG player rates cards” videos when they show up on my recommended & I’ve been watching the old progression series. Hope he’s doing alright.
@@HeavensOfMetal he had some major surgery recently, he posted a whole video explaining the situation
@@HeavensOfMetal homie has Ulcerative Colitis iirc
@@HeavensOfMetal He posted a video where he explained that he would be having a major surgey that will remove his large intestine and will take some time off from content creation for the surgery and the recovery process.
Cimo showing Rarran a Pendulum Monster would be the equivalent of asking a caveman to build a GPU
Pendulum monsters in a vaccum, really aren't that complicated. its just that they are like a whole seperate card game inside of the card game.
11:06 Rarran saying "this card became good because an archetype supported it" and then following that up with saying that it probably wouldn't see play in Hearthstone is crazy. Cataclysm had to get changed so that it no longer discards your entire hand simply because discard warlock got enough support. Discard warlock would play the shit out of card destruction, and if it costed anything less than like 6 mana, it would be a tier 0 deck.
Having a combo card that does what both imp + cata/library did in terms of hand discard would be absolutely bonkers. Its literally an unprintable card with the current precedent set, you simply cannot give discard warlock access to that. Its too much.
In magic, there is a card called time spiral, which gives you a New full hand for free, and is very powerful 😅
Rarran does not believe wild exists.
Neither does Blizzard.
I've just recently discovered this series and binged it. I absolutely loved the guests, the knowledge of different TCG's being exchanged and the length of the episodes 🫶
Keep it up!
Random Suggestion; Rarrans had videos where he gets creators to "rank" Hearthstone cards from a specific type. Try doing the same with all the "Pot" cards that came after Pot of Greed and see if people can figure out which ones are the strongest.
Well some of them are context dependent depending on the deck. Some decks, you don't want to banish random cards from your ED for Extrav. Lab or Eldlich, it's just Pot of Greed.
Some don't mind banishing 10 as long as you can combo off for Desires (or if they benefit from having banished cards). Virtual World can, with Nyannyan, recover facedown banished cards
Etc, etc
We don't even know which are the strongest lol
I mean Avarice and Duality are likely 1 and 2.
prospy > greed
7:05 I think Cimo mistook Card Destruction ruling with Hand Destruction's. Card Destruction says "as many as possible" whilst Hand Destruction requires both players to discard exactly 2 cards
I don't think so, I think he just misremembered, because Card Destruction DOES need at least ONE player to have a card in hand, he just thought it was both players.
Ah the feeling, when you destroy someone with Trickstar, after they draw half their deck with Maxx C and you use Card Destruction, its so good
Okay, "freightening car" is a pretty good pun.
Yu-Gi-Oh generally does have good puns, I'll give them that.
Terrible and a low lvl pun, if at all. But okay for a chuckle.
You could probably show rarran cards you've already shown him and he'd still get it wrong and not recognize several
He is infinite content
@@attalaKH rarran impermanence
41:20 "If this card was still at 3 copies people would play it at three". It has actually been at 3 copies since the start of 2024 and it's rarely played. With the already insane consistency of modern decks and abundance of good generics, there's no need to play a card that's just a +0 when you could instead just put handtraps or boardbreakers in that slot instead, which you would much rather draw than upstart.
The only time I remember a +0 draw being ran in a recent meta deck was a while ago in the OCG where Snake-eyes played 3 Chicken Game after limits to WANTED and Ash, which is because it also serves as a face-up card to send with Diabellstar after it's drawn you a card, technically making it a +1 instead of a +0.
The fact that 3x Upstart is no longer a thing really shows how deckbuilding in Yugioh has changed. The main goal of free-slots in decks went from "more cards to find key pieces to your combo" to "more cards to stop your opponent from doing their combo".
Another factor is that a lot of decks now really don't care about sticking to 40 cards because of the combination of already very high consistency along with garnets that become worse in smaller decks. And obviously if you're already going over 40 then upstart becomes pointless (although there are still a couple exceptions of course).
It has seen some recent play in white forest... Because they can recycle it so it's kinda pot of greed with extra steps
Yeah, it's crazy, but spells are often too slow in Yugioh nowadays because you need to be able to play cards on turn 0.
I think it's had some play in Sky Striker, but it's just not as good as having 3 extra handtraps/utility options (like Fiendsmith line) now that every deck is playing like 9+ one card starters.
It also makes Droll live and it's dead if Droll has already been played.
25:40 So as terrible as Yamata was the VAST majority of it's life, it did have one moment. It was briefly teched in Dragon Ruler as a SOMETIMES card as they full well legitimately could field the 2 tributes needed to pop it onto the board. It gets better because Yamata is a fire dragon, and thus fully valid for both of Blaster's effects, and a level 7 so it already slots in with all their support. Yamata would often be supplanted in it's spot by Obelisk the Tormentor, as Obelisk was very difficult to out in the mirror outside of another Obelisk, but it wasn't unreasonable to see Yamata come down itself and just dunk some people off the earth by drawing 3-5 cards.
I don’t get how the card is bad lol. Maybe it’s more of a recent card than I think it is. Early Yu gi oh 2600 atk isn’t bad at all, and a free full hand is cracked. Giving up 2 monsters 100% worth
@@LegitLord2000 It's a sprit monster. Can't be special summoned + spirit monsters don't stay on field after the end phase unless negated, reducing your board presence
@@LegitLord2000spirit monsters themselves is almost unplayable without a dedicated deck in the majority of the cases
Rarran describing super pot of desires at the end is so funny, imagine if something like floowander got to play with that
@7:00 *Card Destruction can be used so long as at least one player has a card in hand.* If _both_ players have zero cards in hand (or no cards other than _that_ copy of Card Destruction in the case of the person playing it from hand), *then* Card Destruction cannot legally be used. Under Konami (I don't recall it from the Upper Deck days), you also _cannot_ use Card Destruction if you have fewer cards left in your deck than you have in your hand. All of this is - or at least _was_ - quite relevant given the combo of Card Destruction and Serial Spell. Serial Spell *does* require you have a card in hand to discard for its cost, but I'm talking about how - if your hand size exceeded your remaining deck size - you wouldn't be able to play Card Destruction, even if you planned on chaining Serial Spell to it and thus emptying out your hand.
cimo's little elf grin when he says "so let's talk about [card name]" is peak
The emotional rollercoaster Rarran went through from Dekoichi to Card Trooper was wild lol
upstart is at 3 and nobody but striker plays it because it does nothing on turn 0. drawing an upstart rather than a handtrap will more often than not lose you the game.
"Its too slow, it does nothing until turn 1"
Insane to hear but like... yeah thats a good analysis.
@@carpedm9846 Most decks play handtraps, and the ones that don't are generally bad into droll. Upstart is just a dead card into droll.
A few decks run it but. You usually have to look at it as "engine" instead of ur non-engine staples. White forest has also been running it lately but still maintains high hand trap ratios
@@GodzillaFreakits not dead into droll until you draw/search another card. 1 for 1 card draw just isn't good enough alone regardless of droll
@@KeshavKrishnan If the deck is a combo deck, which decks light on handtraps basically always are, then it is just true that there will be other draws and searches. The exception is a trap deck, but trap decks avoid spells in general because of trap theory, playing them very sparingly. If you don't play handtraps, and you're not being punished for drawing cards, cycling is just good.
If I recall Morphing Jar was apart of the initial ban wave. Actually why I quit early on. 500 bucks thrown away felt really bad. I use to play my hand finish with Card Destruction then flip Morphing Jar protected by a trap hole since back then everyone was playing stuff like Gemini or another 1900 power card and watch my opponent cry as they discarded their hand twice. It was a simpler time back then.
One other thing to mention, in regards to Beginning of the End, is that the draw 3 rarely builds towards something. If you're committed to dumping 15 monsters, there's very little else you can really do besides, I guess, draw into traps---which your opponent may have answers to. And, if you've spent all those monsters on extra deck plays, then chances are you're already setup and there's very little that you can actually _do_ with those draws that your board can't already do. (There's little point in drawing removal/negate/whatever cards if your big boss monsters are doing that anyway.)
Well no danger deep draw very much needed to keep going since you were cycling a lot without necessarily building too much advantage
The costs for it are also quite high. 7+ DARK monsters in grave is a bit too high for a deck to hit turn one unless it's specifically going for mass graveyard shenans (in which case, BotE works against by removing those resources from the grave), and banishing the monsters essentially makes them unrecyclable compared to Avarice's shuffling back into the deck. It just doesn't really have a viable niche.
9:06 now that you've heard it you can't overhear a chicken being murdered
1:03:40 Oh Rarran, you haven't even seen Pot of Desires.
Insane 6th sense
Pendulums! Pendulums!
Melt the brains! Rake the coals! Fire up the XYZ/Pendulum combos!
The Beginning of the End was limited from 2020 to 2022 in the OCG.
As long as one player has a card in their hand (except for the Card Destruction), you CAN legally activate Card Destruction.
Damn, kinda wish Cimooooo had pulled out Ursarctic Radiation but I guess evaluating that is kinda a wash without knowing how god awful my space bears are.
One thing that Cimo didn't mention about Pot of Avarice is, it doesn't specify the monsters need to be Main Deck monsters. This was a big part of its strength, putting back Extra Deck monsters (most of which you'd only run at 1 copy) so you could bring them out again if you had the material, letting you either redo your deck's main combos or just have more options to deal with the board. Shuffling back Extra Deck monsters also means you wouldn't hurt the consistency of your Main Deck and makes it far easier to meet the 5 monster requirement than just Main Deck monsters would've.
Beginning of the End's current PSCT reads "If you have 7 or more DARK monsters in your GY: Banish 5 DARK monsters from your GY; draw 3 cards." so your opponent cannot disrupt this the same way as Pot of Avarice
Others have mentioned, but you can activate Card Destruction in any circumstance where it would affect the game on resolution.
By that, the only case where it can't activate is if you *and* your opponent have no cards in hand, because that's the only case where it would do nothing.
Card destruction is kinda interesting. You can activate it as long as it would discard at least one card between you and your opponent.
17:33 extra thing about pot of greed's notoriety - not only did everyone run pot of greed in the anime, everyone also explained every time exactly what it does.
We need part 2 eventually so we can hear his take on Pot of Desires lmao
Another banger. God I love seeing Rarran get into the yu-gi-oh headspace. Appreciating the dreams and creativity
Masked Sorcerer is more or less a meta card in Critter Format. The format is slow and resource dependant enough that it's feasible and relevant to resolve an effect like that, it gets under Trap Hole with 900 ATK and can be searched in a variety of ways.
Cimoooooooo: I'm taking a break for health reasons
Also Cimoooooooo: I will upload more frequently than before my break.
Pre recorded videos with a schedule release
19:20 He actually makes a pretty great point, this was especially in contention with Upstart Goblin in that you could argue that decks are already so consistent that they would prefer to see handtraps to interact on the opponent's turn instead of effectively a blank card. Now unlike Upstart Goblin, Pot of Greed and Graceful Charity are a different subject just because they're so egregious in card advantage why wouldn't you run them. But it is interesting that excessive consistency CAN end up being a hinderance and is usually taken into consideration in deck building.
It's not that UG makes decks "too" consistent, the problem is that UG is a brick on your turn 0. If you're going first, UG reduces your deck size - simple as that. If you're going second, playing 3 UG instead of, say, 2 handtraps and 1 starter, makes your deck less consistent¹ because you cannot cycle UG for a handtrap on that turn. UG is not played in decks when it would make them less consistent going second. Smaller decks also play worse with engine requirements because bad cards to draw dilute the average power per card more in a small deck than a big one, so one might also avoid UG when playing too many engine requirements. Playing more cards increases the average power of your hands in those cases.
¹In a bit more detail, "consistency" when going first roughly equals "the odds of drawing enough combo pieces on my first turn." When going second on the other hand, "consistency" roughly equals "the odds of drawing enough handtraps in my opening hand and also drawing enough combo pieces on my first turn." UG helps with the "drawing enough combo pieces" part either way, but it hinders the "drawing enough handtraps" part.
@delta3244 My brother in christ I quite literally said that. Also, I wasn't bringing that point up specifically because of Upstart Goblin, it was just one of several good examples of how being as consistent as you possibly can be isn't the solution to everything in Yugioh.
@@ARadiantHero I was nitpicking "...excessive consistency CAN be a hinderance...," because the problem with UG is that it lowers consistancy. It doesn't raise consistency to be "too high" and cause problems through it, it lowers consistency. UG being bad is not an example of chasing incremental gains in consistency being bad. It is an example of chasing those gains being good, because UG is excluded where excluding it increases consistency. "Chasing small gains in inconsistency can be bad past a certain point" is a bad takeaway from "UG is bad in most decks."
@delta3244 I can understand what you're trying to say, but I just don't agree with your nitpicking. Upstart Goblin is a consistency piece in that it is making it more likely to see every single other card in your deck if you are on the minimum deck amount, there is nothing to argue here. It does not matter that it isn't something like a ROTA, it doesn't matter if it's bad or good in the current game, and it does not matter if the card you see off of it is unusable, that is irrelevant to the point I was trying to make because that is a separate issue altogether. If it is a card that is made to see other cards more often, then that is what it is.
Admittedly, I left a lot of details out because I was trying to make a very simple statement so if anyone saw the comment, they would understand even if they didn't play Yugioh very much. But I still stand by that point and even as recent as Snake-Eyes format there have been examples of not needing as much consistency as you can possibly run because of the examples we both agree on, as well as redundancy.
You CAN run an ultra consistent deck with max copies of Upstart, Chicken Game, Into the Void, Pot of Greed and Graceful, but Yugioh isn't just about seeing your good cards as often as possible. You can make concessions about "Do I want to run the maximum amount of starters and consistency pieces possible, or do I want to cut down on them for other cards, or do I want to make my deck count larger so I see the cards I don't want to see less often" and be rewarded for it. I play Phantom Knights (if you couldn't tell from my pfp lmao) to a relatively competitive extent and if you know anything about the current iteration of that archetype, these are issues I have to manage constantly and am always changing.
Also Upstart Goblin isn't even a bad card, it's just currently unnecessary. But it wouldn't take THAT much for that card to start seeing play again.
Even Pot of Greed wouldn't be played in the best Decks today I don't think. They are already so hyper consistent that you'd rather play a board breaker or handtrap in that slot instead.
CIMOOOOOOOO one of my fav hour long video formats i will happily watch and rewatch time and time again
That Rarran re-invented Pot of Desires is crazy.
The thing that really made dupe trooper insane was when combined with limiter removal for a super easy otk
Also Card Destruction is a really good counter to Maxx C if you can give them enough draws…That way they deckout out of their own roach
just make sure to bait the ash first
I could be wrong; but I think the difference between Pot of Avarice and The Beginning of the End is that Pot of Avarice is more susceptible to counter play due to the fact that it requires you to target the cards (and if one is removed it becomes invalid even if you still meet the minimal count); whereas Beginning of the End can only be countered if you are put below the minimal requirement (i.e. if you still have 7 or more cards after your opponent removes one, you can still remove 5 of the remaining since it doesn't specify that they're being targeted).
No, the biggest difference is that banishing 5 is a cost for BotE. The opponent can't respond until after you've already banished them.
Rarran getting too smart for his own good at the end, awesome episode
0:50 Woah he said it right!!!
Cimo waited zero seconds after Rarran's answer to say Dekoichi was goated
There's that History of Yu-Gi-Oh! machinestuff boy we know and love
Whats weird with card destruction and Morphing jar from a HS perspective is the disruption you can do to your opponent with these cards, especially if your playing a warlock card destruction deck. because your basically going positive with your cards (kind of like dark world in yugioh) wile making your opponent hate you for getting rid of potential combo cards as unlike yugioh, the graveyard is not a thing and the cards discarded by hand are gone basically forever. these kinds of cards in HS would be considered some of the most toxic cards in the game especially in wild.
First time watching this series and it was way more enjoyable than I thought it might be. I love seeing his thought process evolving with more knowledge. Especially to the point where he theory crafted his own card
I'd love to see Rarran's thoughts on three of my favorite meme-y cards: Cursed Seal of the Forbidden Spell, Mystical Refpanel and Ordeal of a Traveller.
To be honest, I think Rarran is on to something. I think the consistency improvement to decent but not good enough decks would be much greater than it would be to already ultra consistent decks. Playing Master Duel, I've never seen a Centurion, Snake Eyes, Yubel, or a Voiceless player brick...EVER.
kinda unrelated but toon masked sorc has a nifty combo in Performage Toon rank 4, basically use Trapeze Magician on Mask Sorc or Gemini Elf (both level 4 spellcasters btw) to +2 yourself or -2 the opponent.
Toon Kingdom protects the toon monster from Trapeze's destruction so you don't lose material, gives you some protection from damage so leaving a weak monster like sorc in attack becomes less of an issue.
Can't believe I've been watching these matchup videos for months without subscribing. Fixed. Cheers, Cimo~❤
I love that the video ends with Rarran accidentally inventing Allure of Darkness as a hypothetical
That "Pot of banish" Rarran came up with seems like the perfect addition to a Thunder Dragon deck, it's like if Gold Sarc and Allure of Darkness had a baby :p
Cimo im gonna need you to release more of these vids man, as fast as possible
The good thing about Trap Draw cards in older yugioh is that they can bait your opponent's destruction effects. They target to destroy and you just chain so you kind of plus one by making them waste a card. Was always a great feeling when you chain your Jar of Greed to your opponent's MST that was targeting it. It's funny that Cimo says this tactic is only just now becoming popular in retro formats because I did that all the time when I was a kid.
To answer rarrans question about what would happen if graceful and PoG where at 3 right now, I don't agree with Cimo that nothing would change. Apart from droll being a must main I think either sky striker, dark world or purrely would rush to the top of tier 1. I think of all the meta decks only ryzeal (which isn't even out) would significantly improve with 3 pots.
Purrely with 6 free draw spells and gy setup would be crazy, you guys have no idea. First you get to draw street almost every hand so you instantly invalidate half the hand traps your opponent has. Your deck can easily get to double noir with enough spells in rotation and your engine is pretty good going second so you can cut on the hand traps for more pots. I'd definitely try purrely first if they came back tomorrow.
Just seen this video dropped and made my day 100% better!
Masked sorc is a good card in critter. I play one copy in Muka Muka Turbo. but in that format its all about setting monsters and keepig your opponent guessing. set witch, set la jinn, set this guy, set soldier of stone. just keep them guessing until you can build up for a gameshot with last will cannon soldier raigeki and reborn or whatever else needed to go for game.
for some reason I remember beginning of the end being semi-limited at some point
it was limited and semi-limited in the OCG but never touched in the TCG
Cimo couldve run with that train comment and showed him super rail dreadnaught cannon and all the big trains.
55:48 best moment in this series.
Minute 19: he has an amazing point yes the good decks would be more consistent but consistency isnt linear. Thats why its not optimal to run 18 starters for example. So those meta decks already have around 90% consistency and would only slightly increase in consistency while worse decks would have a higher jump. Making it probably more beneficial for inconsistent roge decks. Thats why cards like pot of prosperety are way more impactful in worse strategies then in top meta decks. So yes while annoying I do belive pot of greed isnt close as unhealthy to the game as commonly discussed. GC has to stay banned thougj as it enables combos and set up
Though I see the argument you're trying to make, and this is why modern deck don't run upstart goblin anymore (the small upside in consistency isn't worth the potential brick going second), you're missing 2 way more important factors.
- First off, these cards are absolutely toxic as they make the game more affected by the coin flip and luck dependant in general as opening pot of greed or graceful charity over not opening them is a huge power swing, even when going second. They are in some ways even less balanced than Maxx C, for providing important card advantage but by favoring player 1 even more. And yes, even if they were to always trade 1 for 1 with an ash, it's an upside.
- Second, even though the consistency increase they provide would be more important to less consistent, more degenerate strategies. It's important to remember these meta decks are already so consistent that they can afford to run ~40% if not sometimes ~60% staples, hand traps, etc. So, despite not really improving the combos they would make, these cards would provide more answers and counters to their opponent's strategy. Thus, providing value potentially even higher than the consistency gain to other decks.
This is why these cards should never be unbanned and why almost all pot restrains are atleast being limited and even sometimes banned to this day.
Yeah the swing factor is way more of a problem than anything else. Randomly having 6 card starting hands is pretty annoying
Bro is trying to tri-wight 3 bokoichis back into dekoichi I respect the vision
Part 2!
Part 2!
Great video guys ❤
To answer Raran’s question about Graceful Charity/Pot of Greed being fine because modern top tier decks are already incredibly consistent, the issue would then be that these decks could just dig for non engine. Graceful Charity in particular would be insane because you could just discard redundant hand traps. Like you don’t care about discarding your second copy of Ash because it has a HOPT. It’d also make side decked games incredibly swingy. The last thing the game needs is for decks to be able to dig for side deck pieces more consistently. That’s the main reason why Prosperity is as strong as it is and why it’s the strongest legal draw spell by a mile and in my opinion arguably the strongest draw spell of all time, only questionably behind Graceful Charity but absolutely ahead of Pot of Greed because none of the restrictions matter if it gets you to your 1 card starter or your turn ending side deck card like D Barrier. Meta decks would just use the draw spells to find hand traps in game 1 and side deck cards in game 2/3.
Baiting opponents with traps like Legacy in response to removal always feels so good.
I remember the first time I built a deck that used 3 Pot of Avarice, it got hit just next format, along with several other cards in that deck. It used Fish monsters to get synchro material to draw with Librarian and my first turn ended ten minutes later with two Shooting Quasar Dragon and all pieces of Exodia in hand.
I love that CGB is rating Syncros and Rarran is just doing baby stiff like old staples and shit
16:21 Morphin Jar would be insane in Hearthstone. Imagine activating all the discard synergies, while at the same time ruining your opponent's game plan
1:03:53 reminds me a lot about desires but kinda better, it would be more balanced if it banishes facedown a random card in your hand and it would totally see play without being more broken than necessary, it would end up at 1 tho.
I would argue that if you have a deck that has an insane ceiling but rarely gets to said ceiling then unbanning pot of greed and graceful might allow them to shake the meta. I can't think of any deck off the top of my head this would work with, but i do know that it would affect hyper consistent decks alot less than inconsistent ones.
very entertaining and refreshing video - more modern cards next time, please! However, a minor nitpick: Cimo did that one thing again, where he overstates how good an old card is - by accident or not, but it comes off that way. Dekoichi is completely terrible nowadays, but one might get the feeling that that is not the case after listening to how he describes the card.
Yet another point I wanna mention: Cimo is great at baiting ngl
Card destruction set off alarm bells in my head as a magic player. Wheels are crazy
Card Destruction fun story: i was playing treasure Panda Exodia, my opponent went first, just set a card, and passed. I have no idea what he was playing. He hit me with Maxx C at the start of my turn. I had Treasure Panda in my starting hand, with a bunch of spells as draw cards/panda fodder fodder And Card Destruction was in my deck. My opponent banished one of my exodia pieces from my graveyard using his set Called by The Grave, and probably turned his toggles off. I played through most of my deck, extra deck included (there are quite a few extra deck monsters that are good for card draws in Treasure Panda exodia, let's take Formula Synchron, that level 3 cyberse synchro, corall dragon, or ravenous crocodragon as examples. But link spider, link 2 dark/earch charmers, seleene, accesscode could go into a neat combo if your opponent hits you with a dark/earch handtrap, with simply 2 normal monsters in hand, like 2 exodia limbs. The rest were just some nice beatsticks, like Baronne, Satellite Warrior, Stardust Charge Warrior, T.G. Hyper Librarian, etc.) Point is, my opponent Maxx C-d me, made sure I can't get to Exodia, and what I'd assume is he turned off his toggles. Because he had lover 25 cards in his hand by the time my combo finished, and I basically went through my whole deck. Than I hit him with card destruction, with my own hand almost empty. Deck Out victory. One of the 3 win cons of that deck. The Baronne/Accesscode combos are nice too, but generally Exodia himself is the main wincon.
... back in my days... the best part about masked sorcerer was setting it up turn one. If the opponent attacked it with a weaker monster to see what it was (like with a sangan, newdoria, witch of the black forest...), you would deal damage to them and draw a card. It was hilarious when it happened
Rarran when he sees 0 mana cards that would let warlock combo off and also instantly win against combo decks: "This card would be bad in hearthstone"
forgot to mention how Card Destruction can literally be used as a win con vs Max C and Pur via deck out.
In the 5D era video games, I liked running 3 jars and 3 legacies in a deck built for level 8 synchros. Probably not that great objectively, but it was fun to be able to target one of those with Scrap Dragon and then chain it to draw before the double pop. Mostly just wanted having the possibility of the MST dream but with a little something else to help justify it.
34:20 Well guys, it looks like Rarran broke Machine Duplication.
Beginning of the End *removes* from play, which is a very rare kind of effect in a card with such a good effect.
I think Card Destruction can be activated no matter what. It says "as many as possible"
You can't activate a card where the conditions can't be met at all.
There has to be at least one card that it can discard even with the "as possible" stipulation.
A drawing episode without my best friend runick fountain is criminal!
The Beginning of the End doesn't target the cards it removes so the only way for your opponent to disrupt it is to reduce the number of dark monsters in the graveyard below 5. With Pot of Avarice if any of the targeted cards leaves the graveyard the effect can't resolve.
Gotta love YuGiOh logic 😂
*Pot of Greed* _"Banned, +1 card advantage too strong!"_
*Maxx C* _"Your opponent can Special 20 times so we're gonna let you draw each time, because +20 card advantage is fine!"_
46:25 The echoing screams of Gage's misery emanate from the shadow realm
Card trooper is also a machine so you can use limiter removal on it to double it's boosted attack and cause it to die.
Summoning yamata dragon off kashtira birth is one of my favorite interactions
You know, that was the first time I've seeing Bokoichi somehow, and I thought the editor, edited in a sad cat at the end of it lol. After looking it up, that is indeed how it looks though.
Love how cimo says life not fair
At this point Rarran should be credited as Bazaar enthusiast
Rarran, with the Yamata Dragon analysis Cimo didn't bait you, you baited yourself. You specifically asked Cimo if there were any way to get Yamata Dragon onto the field without tributes!
My man really almost organically came up with allure
Finally a comment mentioning Allure. Everyone is talking about Extrav
Sharing Is Caring - "Draw 3 cards, but the 3rd card goes to your opponent's hand instead"
Beginning of the End is different from Pot of Avarice in that The beginning of the end does not target those 5 dark monsters so you don't have to select which ones first so if your opponent removes one it will still resolve. The 7 or more is an activation condition and if your opponent removes one to make you only have 6 it won't matter because the required condition was already met upon activation. The only problem you will run into is if your opponent makes you have less than 5 Dark monsters, then the card would not be able to resolve.
Quick clarification: the beginning of the end banishes 5 for cost so it’s not like Pot of Avarice. (The version shown in the video is pre-PSCT”)
Your opponent can't interact with the cards of The Beginning of the End, as it banishes as cost.
MTG has Pot of Avarice variation / Beginning of the End called Treasure Cruise. Its very good in our game too.
6:02 Genzo the Shark also has Hearthstone cards in the art.
You can set yamatadragon , it will count as battle damage
How often do you regularly attack into things that someone has set, let alone tribute set?
@@RunicSigilswhen you feeling confident but i digress
Upstart Goblin went to unlimited on the January 4th, 2024 ban listed.
Yeah, modern decks are so consistent that unless its a flat +1 or better, or says "find exactly your starter", they're too weak to see play.