Hearthstone Pro Rates Yu-Gi-Oh Card Draw! ft. @Rarran

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  • @Regiultima
    @Regiultima 14 годин тому +256

    Card Destruction only needs at least 1 player to be able to discard and draw. If it is the only card in your hand, you can still activate it as long as your opponent has at least 1 card in their hand. Similarly, if your opponent’s hand is empty, you need at least 1 other card in order to active it.

    • @Superderpynerd
      @Superderpynerd 13 годин тому +4

      Nice! Someone said it before me.

    • @mauer1
      @mauer1 13 годин тому +24

      i think he confused it with hand destruction.
      where both have to exactly discard 2.

    • @Delimon007
      @Delimon007 12 годин тому +1

      Yea I was about to say the same thing. It's been years since I've ever played the card (I only play goat format and 2006 but this card is hella bad during those times) but I believe that just one player needs to have a card for it to resolve. It neither player would have cards then it cannot resolve and thus, cannot activate.

    • @lukemacinnes5124
      @lukemacinnes5124 11 годин тому +4

      as far as I know this is the only card that works like this, purely because konami said so

    • @nunocarvalho6671
      @nunocarvalho6671 10 годин тому

      It's also why the card destruction ftks work, cause on almost all, if not all, you card destruction while having no cards on your hand except card des, you also have no deck and your opponent's hand is over their remaining deck, so you can just card des, you dont draw cards and they cant draw enough and lose by overdecking

  • @ChaoticMeatballTV
    @ChaoticMeatballTV 17 годин тому +349

    I see we didn't want to bring Rarran to the realm of Pendulum monsters yet. I get it, but I REALLY hope that the rating videos you do with him, CGB, LSV, whoever comes next for pendulums ends up being the video where people are like "oh, I get it. Stupid, but I get it."

    • @918_xDx
      @918_xDx 14 годин тому +7

      What the flying fudd rucker is a pendulum summon ?!?!😂😂😂

    • @Bluejay575
      @Bluejay575 14 годин тому +31

      @@918_xDxit’s when Konami decided it was okay to write 2 paragraphs of text on a card.

    • @kinosnake
      @kinosnake 13 годин тому +7

      2121

    • @darthvader1166
      @darthvader1166 13 годин тому +1

      Pendulum and Link are just... naaaaaaaaaah.

    • @davidciszewski7497
      @davidciszewski7497 13 годин тому +1

      ​@@Bluejay575ain't this the truth made reading Last Turn look like a small paragraph compare to some pendulums cards.

  • @slanax
    @slanax 11 годин тому +75

    Rarran: "Maybe like draw 3 but banish the last card you draw, you'd probably take the risk of banishing something"
    The playerbase about the actual card that does that: "Only a quarter of my deck? You got it. Want me to throw in my firstborn?"

    • @jesseliddelow6409
      @jesseliddelow6409 10 годин тому +18

      It's just a pot of greed, but you can't play it with exodia unless you like gambling (people will still play this with exodia)

    • @aaronabbey2604
      @aaronabbey2604 7 годин тому +4

      Good old pot of "neg 9"

    • @matthewstrunk5581
      @matthewstrunk5581 4 години тому

      You know the funniest part. I believe Steve showed Rarran Pot of Desires on Rarran's channel for a video

    • @MercuryA2000
      @MercuryA2000 3 години тому +3

      You know, I wonder where the line is. Like, if there was a pot card that let your opponent declare a card(s) you couldn't use for the rest of the duel, would that be worth it? What about if it let them look through your deck and FD banish something? What about if it put you on 1LP so any kind of burn or successful attack did it?
      Because there are some things we don't do for a +1. There is a line somewhere. I'm just curious where it is.

    • @prodmoira
      @prodmoira 3 години тому +2

      ​@MercuryA2000 every card you listed would be played at 3 in 99% of decks

  • @davidciszewski7497
    @davidciszewski7497 14 годин тому +165

    Glad Cimo has some prerecorded videos. I love your channel. Hope you feel better.

    • @peteryanes3413
      @peteryanes3413 14 годин тому

      Me too

    • @HeavensOfMetal
      @HeavensOfMetal 13 годин тому +11

      Has something happened to him? I only watch these “TCG player rates cards” videos when they show up on my recommended & I’ve been watching the old progression series. Hope he’s doing alright.

    • @Catonkey1
      @Catonkey1 13 годин тому +26

      @@HeavensOfMetal he had some major surgery recently, he posted a whole video explaining the situation

    • @clubibi
      @clubibi 13 годин тому +6

      @@HeavensOfMetal homie has Ulcerative Colitis iirc

  • @rivetace
    @rivetace 13 годин тому +68

    11:06 Rarran saying "this card became good because an archetype supported it" and then following that up with saying that it probably wouldn't see play in Hearthstone is crazy. Cataclysm had to get changed so that it no longer discards your entire hand simply because discard warlock got enough support. Discard warlock would play the shit out of card destruction, and if it costed anything less than like 6 mana, it would be a tier 0 deck.

    • @KoopaKrump
      @KoopaKrump 6 годин тому +2

      Having a combo card that does what both imp + cata/library did in terms of hand discard would be absolutely bonkers. Its literally an unprintable card with the current precedent set, you simply cannot give discard warlock access to that. Its too much.

  • @TagRoss
    @TagRoss 9 годин тому +19

    I think one thing cimoo forgot to mention about Pot of Avarice is that if you recycle extra deck monsters your deck doesn't lose consistency when drawing

  • @nikolasavic2650
    @nikolasavic2650 10 годин тому +15

    Cimo showing Rarran a Pendulum Monster would be the equivalent of asking a caveman to build a GPU

  • @MikeMozzaro
    @MikeMozzaro 14 годин тому +76

    Random Suggestion; Rarrans had videos where he gets creators to "rank" Hearthstone cards from a specific type. Try doing the same with all the "Pot" cards that came after Pot of Greed and see if people can figure out which ones are the strongest.

    • @ajkcool
      @ajkcool 13 годин тому +5

      Well some of them are context dependent depending on the deck. Some decks, you don't want to banish random cards from your ED for Extrav. Lab or Eldlich, it's just Pot of Greed.
      Some don't mind banishing 10 as long as you can combo off for Desires (or if they benefit from having banished cards). Virtual World can, with Nyannyan, recover facedown banished cards
      Etc, etc

    • @kit2877
      @kit2877 9 годин тому +7

      We don't even know which are the strongest lol

    • @Noobie2k7
      @Noobie2k7 7 годин тому

      I mean Avarice and Duality are likely 1 and 2.

    • @ahkwaheart
      @ahkwaheart 10 хвилин тому

      prospy > greed

  • @kyounokaien
    @kyounokaien 13 годин тому +32

    upstart is at 3 and nobody but striker plays it because it does nothing on turn 0. drawing an upstart rather than a handtrap will more often than not lose you the game.

    • @carpedm9846
      @carpedm9846 13 годин тому +22

      "Its too slow, it does nothing until turn 1"
      Insane to hear but like... yeah thats a good analysis.

    • @GodzillaFreak
      @GodzillaFreak 9 годин тому +1

      @@carpedm9846 Most decks play handtraps, and the ones that don't are generally bad into droll. Upstart is just a dead card into droll.

    • @KeshavKrishnan
      @KeshavKrishnan 8 годин тому +2

      A few decks run it but. You usually have to look at it as "engine" instead of ur non-engine staples. White forest has also been running it lately but still maintains high hand trap ratios

    • @KeshavKrishnan
      @KeshavKrishnan 8 годин тому +1

      @@GodzillaFreakits not dead into droll until you draw/search another card. 1 for 1 card draw just isn't good enough alone regardless of droll

    • @GodzillaFreak
      @GodzillaFreak 8 годин тому

      @@KeshavKrishnan If the deck is a combo deck, which decks light on handtraps basically always are, then it is just true that there will be other draws and searches. The exception is a trap deck, but trap decks avoid spells in general because of trap theory, playing them very sparingly. If you don't play handtraps, and you're not being punished for drawing cards, cycling is just good.

  • @alessioscoppa1745
    @alessioscoppa1745 14 годин тому +44

    7:05 I think Cimo mistook Card Destruction ruling with Hand Destruction's. Card Destruction says "as many as possible" whilst Hand Destruction requires both players to discard exactly 2 cards

    • @Sinzari
      @Sinzari 12 годин тому +2

      I don't think so, I think he just misremembered, because Card Destruction DOES need at least ONE player to have a card in hand, he just thought it was both players.

  • @FafliXx
    @FafliXx 12 годин тому +9

    Cimoooooooo: I'm taking a break for health reasons
    Also Cimoooooooo: I will upload more frequently than before my break.

    • @withinhearts1232
      @withinhearts1232 11 годин тому +4

      Pre recorded videos with a schedule release

  • @CodySvsTheNet
    @CodySvsTheNet 14 годин тому +53

    You could probably show rarran cards you've already shown him and he'd still get it wrong and not recognize several

    • @attalaKH
      @attalaKH 12 годин тому +18

      He is infinite content

    • @skyjumper4097
      @skyjumper4097 11 годин тому +14

      @@attalaKH rarran impermanence

  • @derfreisi4317
    @derfreisi4317 14 годин тому +18

    Ah the feeling, when you destroy someone with Trickstar, after they draw half their deck with Maxx C and you use Card Destruction, its so good

  • @dectilon
    @dectilon 13 годин тому +14

    Okay, "freightening car" is a pretty good pun.

  • @zenoodlesoup6374
    @zenoodlesoup6374 12 годин тому +7

    I've just recently discovered this series and binged it. I absolutely loved the guests, the knowledge of different TCG's being exchanged and the length of the episodes 🫶
    Keep it up!

  • @ARadiantHero
    @ARadiantHero 11 годин тому +10

    19:20 He actually makes a pretty great point, this was especially in contention with Upstart Goblin in that you could argue that decks are already so consistent that they would prefer to see handtraps to interact on the opponent's turn instead of effectively a blank card. Now unlike Upstart Goblin, Pot of Greed and Graceful Charity are a different subject just because they're so egregious in card advantage why wouldn't you run them. But it is interesting that excessive consistency CAN end up being a hinderance and is usually taken into consideration in deck building.

    • @delta3244
      @delta3244 44 хвилини тому

      It's not that UG makes decks "too" consistent, the problem is that UG is a brick on your turn 0. If you're going first, UG reduces your deck size - simple as that. If you're going second, playing 3 UG instead of, say, 2 handtraps and 1 starter, makes your deck less consistent¹ because you cannot cycle UG for a handtrap on that turn. UG is not played in decks when it would make them less consistent going second. Smaller decks also play worse with engine requirements because bad cards to draw dilute the average power per card more in a small deck than a big one, so one might also avoid UG when playing too many engine requirements. Playing more cards increases the average power of your hands in those cases.
      ¹In a bit more detail, "consistency" when going first roughly equals "the odds of drawing enough combo pieces on my first turn." When going second on the other hand, "consistency" roughly equals "the odds of drawing enough handtraps in my opening hand and also drawing enough combo pieces on my first turn." UG helps with the "drawing enough combo pieces" part either way, but it hinders the "drawing enough handtraps" part.

  • @aea3630
    @aea3630 14 годин тому +24

    41:20 "If this card was still at 3 copies people would play it at three". It has actually been at 3 copies since the start of 2024 and it's rarely played. With the already insane consistency of modern decks and abundance of good generics, there's no need to play a card that's just a +0 when you could instead just put handtraps or boardbreakers in that slot instead, which you would much rather draw than upstart.
    The only time I remember a +0 draw being ran in a recent meta deck was a while ago in the OCG where Snake-eyes played 3 Chicken Game after limits to WANTED and Ash, which is because it also serves as a face-up card to send with Diabellstar after it's drawn you a card, technically making it a +1 instead of a +0.
    The fact that 3x Upstart is no longer a thing really shows how deckbuilding in Yugioh has changed. The main goal of free-slots in decks went from "more cards to find key pieces to your combo" to "more cards to stop your opponent from doing their combo".

    • @deesoff
      @deesoff 11 годин тому

      Another factor is that a lot of decks now really don't care about sticking to 40 cards because of the combination of already very high consistency along with garnets that become worse in smaller decks. And obviously if you're already going over 40 then upstart becomes pointless (although there are still a couple exceptions of course).

    • @KeshavKrishnan
      @KeshavKrishnan 8 годин тому

      It has seen some recent play in white forest... Because they can recycle it so it's kinda pot of greed with extra steps

    • @Sinzari
      @Sinzari 6 годин тому +1

      Yeah, it's crazy, but spells are often too slow in Yugioh nowadays because you need to be able to play cards on turn 0.

  • @KamisamanoOtaku
    @KamisamanoOtaku 14 годин тому +13

    @7:00 *Card Destruction can be used so long as at least one player has a card in hand.* If _both_ players have zero cards in hand (or no cards other than _that_ copy of Card Destruction in the case of the person playing it from hand), *then* Card Destruction cannot legally be used. Under Konami (I don't recall it from the Upper Deck days), you also _cannot_ use Card Destruction if you have fewer cards left in your deck than you have in your hand. All of this is - or at least _was_ - quite relevant given the combo of Card Destruction and Serial Spell. Serial Spell *does* require you have a card in hand to discard for its cost, but I'm talking about how - if your hand size exceeded your remaining deck size - you wouldn't be able to play Card Destruction, even if you planned on chaining Serial Spell to it and thus emptying out your hand.

  • @ttarzzxz3711
    @ttarzzxz3711 12 годин тому +6

    Rarran describing super pot of desires at the end is so funny, imagine if something like floowander got to play with that

  • @michaelfung4285
    @michaelfung4285 12 годин тому +12

    1:03:40 Oh Rarran, you haven't even seen Pot of Desires.

  • @superbaas8822
    @superbaas8822 8 годин тому +4

    25:40 So as terrible as Yamata was the VAST majority of it's life, it did have one moment. It was briefly teched in Dragon Ruler as a SOMETIMES card as they full well legitimately could field the 2 tributes needed to pop it onto the board. It gets better because Yamata is a fire dragon, and thus fully valid for both of Blaster's effects, and a level 7 so it already slots in with all their support. Yamata would often be supplanted in it's spot by Obelisk the Tormentor, as Obelisk was very difficult to out in the mirror outside of another Obelisk, but it wasn't unreasonable to see Yamata come down itself and just dunk some people off the earth by drawing 3-5 cards.

    • @LegitLord2000
      @LegitLord2000 3 години тому

      I don’t get how the card is bad lol. Maybe it’s more of a recent card than I think it is. Early Yu gi oh 2600 atk isn’t bad at all, and a free full hand is cracked. Giving up 2 monsters 100% worth

    • @HazeEmry
      @HazeEmry 2 години тому +1

      @@LegitLord2000 It's a sprit monster. Can't be special summoned + spirit monsters don't stay on field after the end phase unless negated, reducing your board presence

  • @stoike3958
    @stoike3958 14 годин тому +6

    Damn, kinda wish Cimooooo had pulled out Ursarctic Radiation but I guess evaluating that is kinda a wash without knowing how god awful my space bears are.

  • @StrunDoNhor
    @StrunDoNhor 10 годин тому +3

    One other thing to mention, in regards to Beginning of the End, is that the draw 3 rarely builds towards something. If you're committed to dumping 15 monsters, there's very little else you can really do besides, I guess, draw into traps---which your opponent may have answers to. And, if you've spent all those monsters on extra deck plays, then chances are you're already setup and there's very little that you can actually _do_ with those draws that your board can't already do. (There's little point in drawing removal/negate/whatever cards if your big boss monsters are doing that anyway.)

    • @GodzillaFreak
      @GodzillaFreak 8 годин тому

      Well no danger deep draw very much needed to keep going since you were cycling a lot without necessarily building too much advantage

    • @UltimateLink1
      @UltimateLink1 6 годин тому +1

      The costs for it are also quite high. 7+ DARK monsters in grave is a bit too high for a deck to hit turn one unless it's specifically going for mass graveyard shenans (in which case, BotE works against by removing those resources from the grave), and banishing the monsters essentially makes them unrecyclable compared to Avarice's shuffling back into the deck. It just doesn't really have a viable niche.

  • @bestbeekeeper8931
    @bestbeekeeper8931 12 годин тому +3

    cimo's little elf grin when he says "so let's talk about [card name]" is peak

  • @ThePigKnight
    @ThePigKnight 12 годин тому +3

    Card destruction is kinda interesting. You can activate it as long as it would discard at least one card between you and your opponent.

  • @SaberToothPortilla
    @SaberToothPortilla 14 годин тому +7

    Others have mentioned, but you can activate Card Destruction in any circumstance where it would affect the game on resolution.
    By that, the only case where it can't activate is if you *and* your opponent have no cards in hand, because that's the only case where it would do nothing.

  • @OriginsStaffs
    @OriginsStaffs 13 годин тому +5

    Also Card Destruction is a really good counter to Maxx C if you can give them enough draws…That way they deckout out of their own roach

  • @CoupeDeJarnac
    @CoupeDeJarnac 8 годин тому +3

    If I recall Morphing Jar was apart of the initial ban wave. Actually why I quit early on. 500 bucks thrown away felt really bad. I use to play my hand finish with Card Destruction then flip Morphing Jar protected by a trap hole since back then everyone was playing stuff like Gemini or another 1900 power card and watch my opponent cry as they discarded their hand twice. It was a simpler time back then.

  • @jamesaditya5254
    @jamesaditya5254 13 годин тому +3

    The emotional rollercoaster Rarran went through from Dekoichi to Card Trooper was wild lol

  • @mach186282
    @mach186282 7 годин тому +2

    One thing that Cimo didn't mention about Pot of Avarice is, it doesn't specify the monsters need to be Main Deck monsters. This was a big part of its strength, putting back Extra Deck monsters (most of which you'd only run at 1 copy) so you could bring them out again if you had the material, letting you either redo your deck's main combos or just have more options to deal with the board. Shuffling back Extra Deck monsters also means you wouldn't hurt the consistency of your Main Deck and makes it far easier to meet the 5 monster requirement than just Main Deck monsters would've.

  • @artemisamberdrive583
    @artemisamberdrive583 13 годин тому +5

    9:06 now that you've heard it you can't overhear a chicken being murdered

  • @Ceece20
    @Ceece20 13 годин тому +4

    Pendulums! Pendulums!
    Melt the brains! Rake the coals! Fire up the XYZ/Pendulum combos!

  • @FafliXx
    @FafliXx 11 годин тому +2

    That Rarran re-invented Pot of Desires is crazy.

  • @Ryukurai
    @Ryukurai 10 годин тому +3

    I could be wrong; but I think the difference between Pot of Avarice and The Beginning of the End is that Pot of Avarice is more susceptible to counter play due to the fact that it requires you to target the cards (and if one is removed it becomes invalid even if you still meet the minimal count); whereas Beginning of the End can only be countered if you are put below the minimal requirement (i.e. if you still have 7 or more cards after your opponent removes one, you can still remove 5 of the remaining since it doesn't specify that they're being targeted).

    • @MetaKaios
      @MetaKaios 5 годин тому +1

      No, the biggest difference is that banishing 5 is a cost for BotE. The opponent can't respond until after you've already banished them.

  • @BenazetG
    @BenazetG 14 годин тому +6

    As long as one player has a card in their hand (except for the Card Destruction), you CAN legally activate Card Destruction.

  • @GustSuzaku
    @GustSuzaku 11 годин тому +2

    We need part 2 eventually so we can hear his take on Pot of Desires lmao

  • @skullyzYT
    @skullyzYT 9 годин тому +2

    Whats weird with card destruction and Morphing jar from a HS perspective is the disruption you can do to your opponent with these cards, especially if your playing a warlock card destruction deck. because your basically going positive with your cards (kind of like dark world in yugioh) wile making your opponent hate you for getting rid of potential combo cards as unlike yugioh, the graveyard is not a thing and the cards discarded by hand are gone basically forever. these kinds of cards in HS would be considered some of the most toxic cards in the game especially in wild.

  • @Donrickytheonlyone
    @Donrickytheonlyone 13 годин тому +2

    The thing that really made dupe trooper insane was when combined with limiter removal for a super easy otk

  • @chimpmunkfu
    @chimpmunkfu 14 годин тому +2

    CIMOOOOOOOO one of my fav hour long video formats i will happily watch and rewatch time and time again

  • @markusmanssen5624
    @markusmanssen5624 13 годин тому +3

    The Beginning of the End was limited from 2020 to 2022 in the OCG.

  • @leonardocarvalho7306
    @leonardocarvalho7306 11 годин тому +1

    kinda unrelated but toon masked sorc has a nifty combo in Performage Toon rank 4, basically use Trapeze Magician on Mask Sorc or Gemini Elf (both level 4 spellcasters btw) to +2 yourself or -2 the opponent.
    Toon Kingdom protects the toon monster from Trapeze's destruction so you don't lose material, gives you some protection from damage so leaving a weak monster like sorc in attack becomes less of an issue.

  • @stubenhockershr1161
    @stubenhockershr1161 13 годин тому +2

    Rarran getting too smart for his own good at the end, awesome episode

  • @definitelynotmany4972
    @definitelynotmany4972 4 години тому +1

    11:31 Cards much worse than this one have been already banned and nerfed in hearthstone because of how unfun they were.

  • @BaxsStudios
    @BaxsStudios 14 годин тому +5

    Minute 19: he has an amazing point yes the good decks would be more consistent but consistency isnt linear. Thats why its not optimal to run 18 starters for example. So those meta decks already have around 90% consistency and would only slightly increase in consistency while worse decks would have a higher jump. Making it probably more beneficial for inconsistent roge decks. Thats why cards like pot of prosperety are way more impactful in worse strategies then in top meta decks. So yes while annoying I do belive pot of greed isnt close as unhealthy to the game as commonly discussed. GC has to stay banned thougj as it enables combos and set up

    • @xakuray5522
      @xakuray5522 12 годин тому +3

      Though I see the argument you're trying to make, and this is why modern deck don't run upstart goblin anymore (the small upside in consistency isn't worth the potential brick going second), you're missing 2 way more important factors.
      - First off, these cards are absolutely toxic as they make the game more affected by the coin flip and luck dependant in general as opening pot of greed or graceful charity over not opening them is a huge power swing, even when going second. They are in some ways even less balanced than Maxx C, for providing important card advantage but by favoring player 1 even more. And yes, even if they were to always trade 1 for 1 with an ash, it's an upside.
      - Second, even though the consistency increase they provide would be more important to less consistent, more degenerate strategies. It's important to remember these meta decks are already so consistent that they can afford to run ~40% if not sometimes ~60% staples, hand traps, etc. So, despite not really improving the combos they would make, these cards would provide more answers and counters to their opponent's strategy. Thus, providing value potentially even higher than the consistency gain to other decks.
      This is why these cards should never be unbanned and why almost all pot restrains are atleast being limited and even sometimes banned to this day.

    • @ellachino4799
      @ellachino4799 11 годин тому +1

      Yeah the swing factor is way more of a problem than anything else. Randomly having 6 card starting hands is pretty annoying

  • @trevizee806
    @trevizee806 9 годин тому +2

    To answer rarrans question about what would happen if graceful and PoG where at 3 right now, I don't agree with Cimo that nothing would change. Apart from droll being a must main I think either sky striker, dark world or purrely would rush to the top of tier 1. I think of all the meta decks only ryzeal (which isn't even out) would significantly improve with 3 pots.
    Purrely with 6 free draw spells and gy setup would be crazy, you guys have no idea. First you get to draw street almost every hand so you instantly invalidate half the hand traps your opponent has. Your deck can easily get to double noir with enough spells in rotation and your engine is pretty good going second so you can cut on the hand traps for more pots. I'd definitely try purrely first if they came back tomorrow.

  • @canadacaden3266
    @canadacaden3266 9 годин тому +1

    I'd love to see Rarran's thoughts on three of my favorite meme-y cards: Cursed Seal of the Forbidden Spell, Mystical Refpanel and Ordeal of a Traveller.

  • @PistisAdelphos
    @PistisAdelphos 14 годин тому +2

    Masked sorc is a good card in critter. I play one copy in Muka Muka Turbo. but in that format its all about setting monsters and keepig your opponent guessing. set witch, set la jinn, set this guy, set soldier of stone. just keep them guessing until you can build up for a gameshot with last will cannon soldier raigeki and reborn or whatever else needed to go for game.

  • @ALittleMessi
    @ALittleMessi 8 годин тому

    First time watching this series and it was way more enjoyable than I thought it might be. I love seeing his thought process evolving with more knowledge. Especially to the point where he theory crafted his own card

  • @lorenztor1990
    @lorenztor1990 4 години тому +1

    To be honest, I think Rarran is on to something. I think the consistency improvement to decent but not good enough decks would be much greater than it would be to already ultra consistent decks. Playing Master Duel, I've never seen a Centurion, Snake Eyes, Yubel, or a Voiceless player brick...EVER.

  • @lorenztor1990
    @lorenztor1990 4 години тому

    The good thing about Trap Draw cards in older yugioh is that they can bait your opponent's destruction effects. They target to destroy and you just chain so you kind of plus one by making them waste a card. Was always a great feeling when you chain your Jar of Greed to your opponent's MST that was targeting it. It's funny that Cimo says this tactic is only just now becoming popular in retro formats because I did that all the time when I was a kid.

  • @MrDeathstab
    @MrDeathstab 14 годин тому +1

    Just seen this video dropped and made my day 100% better!

  • @thedropshotter115
    @thedropshotter115 14 годин тому +4

    for some reason I remember beginning of the end being semi-limited at some point

    • @RickertUrgen
      @RickertUrgen 12 годин тому +2

      it was limited and semi-limited in the OCG but never touched in the TCG

  • @kokumvt
    @kokumvt 14 годин тому +3

    You can set yamatadragon , it will count as battle damage

    • @RunicSigils
      @RunicSigils 5 годин тому +1

      How often do you regularly attack into things that someone has set, let alone tribute set?

  • @kr555wizard
    @kr555wizard 5 годин тому +1

    I would argue that if you have a deck that has an insane ceiling but rarely gets to said ceiling then unbanning pot of greed and graceful might allow them to shake the meta. I can't think of any deck off the top of my head this would work with, but i do know that it would affect hyper consistent decks alot less than inconsistent ones.

  • @albertorodrigomolinasortiz471
    @albertorodrigomolinasortiz471 8 годин тому

    I remember the first time I built a deck that used 3 Pot of Avarice, it got hit just next format, along with several other cards in that deck. It used Fish monsters to get synchro material to draw with Librarian and my first turn ended ten minutes later with two Shooting Quasar Dragon and all pieces of Exodia in hand.

  • @chrisb.2028
    @chrisb.2028 11 годин тому +1

    1:03:53 reminds me a lot about desires but kinda better, it would be more balanced if it banishes facedown a random card in your hand and it would totally see play without being more broken than necessary, it would end up at 1 tho.

  • @TheShiningBee
    @TheShiningBee 10 годин тому

    Another banger. God I love seeing Rarran get into the yu-gi-oh headspace. Appreciating the dreams and creativity

  • @lexnaum
    @lexnaum 14 годин тому +2

    I think Card Destruction can be activated no matter what. It says "as many as possible"

    • @RunicSigils
      @RunicSigils 5 годин тому

      You can't activate a card where the conditions can't be met at all.
      There has to be at least one card that it can discard even with the "as possible" stipulation.

  • @nuggetsml
    @nuggetsml 3 години тому

    Cimo im gonna need you to release more of these vids man, as fast as possible

  • @faereman
    @faereman 9 годин тому

    That "Pot of banish" Rarran came up with seems like the perfect addition to a Thunder Dragon deck, it's like if Gold Sarc and Allure of Darkness had a baby :p

  • @SpottedZebra
    @SpottedZebra 12 годин тому

    In the 5D era video games, I liked running 3 jars and 3 legacies in a deck built for level 8 synchros. Probably not that great objectively, but it was fun to be able to target one of those with Scrap Dragon and then chain it to draw before the double pop. Mostly just wanted having the possibility of the MST dream but with a little something else to help justify it.

  • @BlueYYu
    @BlueYYu 13 годин тому +1

    6:02 Genzo the Shark also has Hearthstone cards in the art.

  • @elvenatheart982
    @elvenatheart982 13 годин тому +1

    I love that CGB is rating Syncros and Rarran is just doing baby stiff like old staples and shit

  • @JAN0L
    @JAN0L 7 годин тому

    The Beginning of the End doesn't target the cards it removes so the only way for your opponent to disrupt it is to reduce the number of dark monsters in the graveyard below 5. With Pot of Avarice if any of the targeted cards leaves the graveyard the effect can't resolve.

  • @Wortigon2000
    @Wortigon2000 7 годин тому

    Card Destruction fun story: i was playing treasure Panda Exodia, my opponent went first, just set a card, and passed. I have no idea what he was playing. He hit me with Maxx C at the start of my turn. I had Treasure Panda in my starting hand, with a bunch of spells as draw cards/panda fodder fodder And Card Destruction was in my deck. My opponent banished one of my exodia pieces from my graveyard using his set Called by The Grave, and probably turned his toggles off. I played through most of my deck, extra deck included (there are quite a few extra deck monsters that are good for card draws in Treasure Panda exodia, let's take Formula Synchron, that level 3 cyberse synchro, corall dragon, or ravenous crocodragon as examples. But link spider, link 2 dark/earch charmers, seleene, accesscode could go into a neat combo if your opponent hits you with a dark/earch handtrap, with simply 2 normal monsters in hand, like 2 exodia limbs. The rest were just some nice beatsticks, like Baronne, Satellite Warrior, Stardust Charge Warrior, T.G. Hyper Librarian, etc.) Point is, my opponent Maxx C-d me, made sure I can't get to Exodia, and what I'd assume is he turned off his toggles. Because he had lover 25 cards in his hand by the time my combo finished, and I basically went through my whole deck. Than I hit him with card destruction, with my own hand almost empty. Deck Out victory. One of the 3 win cons of that deck. The Baronne/Accesscode combos are nice too, but generally Exodia himself is the main wincon.

  • @knightoftherake2448
    @knightoftherake2448 9 годин тому +1

    Bro is trying to tri-wight 3 bokoichis back into dekoichi I respect the vision

  • @potentiallyRealWarrenGraham
    @potentiallyRealWarrenGraham 11 годин тому

    46:25 The echoing screams of Gage's misery emanate from the shadow realm

  • @lorenztor1990
    @lorenztor1990 4 години тому

    Beginning of the End is different from Pot of Avarice in that The beginning of the end does not target those 5 dark monsters so you don't have to select which ones first so if your opponent removes one it will still resolve. The 7 or more is an activation condition and if your opponent removes one to make you only have 6 it won't matter because the required condition was already met upon activation. The only problem you will run into is if your opponent makes you have less than 5 Dark monsters, then the card would not be able to resolve.

  • @PotatoSofi
    @PotatoSofi 7 годин тому

    Beginning of the End *removes* from play, which is a very rare kind of effect in a card with such a good effect.

  • @definitelynotmany4972
    @definitelynotmany4972 4 години тому

    16:21 Morphin Jar would be insane in Hearthstone. Imagine activating all the discard synergies, while at the same time ruining your opponent's game plan

  • @davidciszewski7497
    @davidciszewski7497 14 годин тому +2

    Upstart Goblin went to unlimited on the January 4th, 2024 ban listed.

    • @MrShukaku1991
      @MrShukaku1991 13 годин тому +6

      Yeah, modern decks are so consistent that unless its a flat +1 or better, or says "find exactly your starter", they're too weak to see play.

  • @jordanlane5860
    @jordanlane5860 6 годин тому

    34:20 Well guys, it looks like Rarran broke Machine Duplication.

  • @gingeral253
    @gingeral253 11 годин тому +1

    0:50 Woah he said it right!!!

  • @Skinnaburn
    @Skinnaburn 13 годин тому +1

    The thing i would be interested to see is Number IC1000, since yugioh has higher stats than other card games already, let´s go to the extreme with 100.000 ATK and see what people from other card games think about it.

  • @peteryanes3413
    @peteryanes3413 14 годин тому +1

    Love how cimo says life not fair

  • @jaeusa160
    @jaeusa160 9 годин тому

    Funny thing semi-related to Morphing Jar. Because Jar would be very slow, and the Anime wanted these very back-and-forth games of cards constantly being played and more than 1 card per turn, the Anime created a spell card Coins From Heaven to just have both players draw back up to 6 cards in hand.
    Like other anime cards, it got printed in the physical game as total garbage because it's obviously insanely broken. But it's just kind of cool to think of how much fun a mutual hand refill would be in a very slow version of Yugioh.

  • @gingerale2733
    @gingerale2733 3 години тому

    MTG has Pot of Avarice variation / Beginning of the End called Treasure Cruise. Its very good in our game too.

  • @insuranceagency5200
    @insuranceagency5200 4 години тому

    honestly I forgot about beginning of the end and it made me curious to see how well it'd work in blackwing or raidraptors (maybe even branded but ehhh). might have to do some testing

  • @alexanderfisher7261
    @alexanderfisher7261 12 годин тому

    In wild hearthstone, 0 mana discard your hand would almost certainly be broken. Adding draw to it would be insane.

  • @jahaadjackson
    @jahaadjackson 12 годин тому +1

    My man really almost organically came up with allure

    • @HazeEmry
      @HazeEmry 2 години тому

      Finally a comment mentioning Allure. Everyone is talking about Extrav

  • @Plag-Dmon98
    @Plag-Dmon98 8 годин тому

    Holy crap the Maliss archetype thats out now could use Beginning of the End as a free reset plus 3 cards, obviously super situational to have an empty board and live but if your opponent manages to whipe your board of links this card could effectively give you back all of the Maliss monsters and draw 3

  • @chunkitliem3635
    @chunkitliem3635 4 години тому

    Fun fact about graceful charity: Chinese ygo player hosted competition with no ban list before, and obviously we know the best deck is that deck, but here comes the funniest thing, graceful charity are in the deck while pot of greed aren't because "Card is not efficient enough"

  • @pretends2know
    @pretends2know 5 годин тому

    In the great Pot of Greed vs. Graceful Charity debate, I personally think that Graceful Charity wins because the floor and ceiling of Pot of Greed's power is a +1. The floor of Graceful Charity is a 3-for-3, but the ceiling is much, much higher than a +1.

  • @heartscaless
    @heartscaless 14 годин тому +7

    can someone timestamp where the hearthstone pro comes in

  • @DGSnowolf
    @DGSnowolf 2 години тому

    Graceful Charity HAS been played over Pot of Greed in the OCGs Unlimited Format. In fact Charity is a staple in basically every deck, while Pot of Greed isn't played for the reasons that Rarran stated here. In the Unlimited Format the top decks are already so consistent that Pot of Greed is wasted Deckspace.

  • @suprahb
    @suprahb 10 годин тому

    Summoning yamata dragon off kashtira birth is one of my favorite interactions

  • @bionuralhs5056
    @bionuralhs5056 12 годин тому

    Only got to card destruction thus far and Rarran both didn’t mention the cards shuffle into the deck and secondly the Sunken City version of Finley that puts your hand in order on the bottom of the deck and you draw as many as you placed in the deck for a 1 mana 1/3 legendary minion.

  • @user-MerchantofVenus
    @user-MerchantofVenus 12 годин тому

    Show him good goblin housekeeping with emergency provisions, and explain how the combo allows you to draw 12 cards

  • @acetraker1988
    @acetraker1988 9 годин тому +1

    Pro Tip = Card Destruction + Serial Spell = GG.... I used to do this to people, it was great times...
    -Serial Spell copies card Destruction however it has the cost to discard your hand, doing so means the opponent will discard their hand twice. You will discard and draw nothing.
    Random Tip: Card Destruction triggers Dark Worlds...

  • @noriakikakyoin8841
    @noriakikakyoin8841 7 хвилин тому

    At this point Rarran should be credited as Bazaar enthusiast

  • @johannesstorck8601
    @johannesstorck8601 11 годин тому

    A drawing episode without my best friend runick fountain is criminal!

  • @AmellsGrace
    @AmellsGrace 13 годин тому

    Hearing rarens description of card destruction I'm DYING to hear his thoughts on one with nothing.

  • @DoctorFalchion
    @DoctorFalchion 8 годин тому

    I'm kind of with Rarran on Graceful Charity (not so much Pot of Greed) actually changing the top decks. Namely, that more powerful decks held back by banlist limitations to their consistency - namely Tearlaments - become disproportionately better.
    I think, if you introduced 3x Graceful Charity into the format and no other changes, Tearlament at least starts consistently topping again.

  • @Anonymous8547
    @Anonymous8547 10 годин тому

    If masked sorc is in defense position and inflicts battle damage from being attacked you also draw 1 card. This comes up in critter format.

  • @ZephyCluster
    @ZephyCluster 7 годин тому

    I had a Dark World deck anti-Maxx C me because of card destruction. I tossed it early cause I didn't know what he was playing, forced me to draw half my deck and then played that to force draw the other half while he was empty handed.

  • @Asako_Gaming
    @Asako_Gaming 13 годин тому

    The Beginning of the End is just one of those cards that are going to get out of hand when the right deck arrives.

    • @spacecoyote6101
      @spacecoyote6101 13 годин тому +1

      I doubt it unless the game undergoes severe power reduction. The card is a lot like pot of avarice, it's a card that only really works when you are already playing the game, and at that point you should already be winning.

  • @JumbaJumby
    @JumbaJumby 8 годин тому

    I wish you showed him Sekka's Light as the most extreme case of the lengths we go to for card draw.

  • @chimpmasterflex
    @chimpmasterflex 9 годин тому

    You know, that was the first time I've seeing Bokoichi somehow, and I thought the editor, edited in a sad cat at the end of it lol. After looking it up, that is indeed how it looks though.

  • @ebonwings1313
    @ebonwings1313 4 години тому

    For card destruction only one player needs to discard. However if one player has more cards in hand than in the deck it can't legally be activated.

  • @dragonmaster951753
    @dragonmaster951753 12 годин тому

    I forgot about dragged down. I'm about to add it back to my deck. 4th summon, play this, rip nibiru, combo off