Saving Captain Boomerang - Suicide Squad
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- Опубліковано 10 січ 2018
- I love Captain Boomerang. He's one of my favorite comic book villains. And I love the comic version of the Suicide Squad. It's an interesting concept that lends itself to a lot of fun stories.
The Suicide Squad movie on the other hand was...not that. The action was uninspired. The editing was erratic. The dialogue was cringey. But worse than maybe all of that, the movie seemed to have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the Suicide Squad is.
So I've made a big change to Suicide Squad that addresses some of my core concerns with Suicide Squad. In a different location, I don't think the movie would have been perfect, but I think it could have been a movie worthy of Captain Boomerang.
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The BOOMERANG squad! See it’s good because it’s got Ang in it. BoomerANG
Did you get the reference?
Iain Hansen I have actually never watched The Last Airbender but in my travels around the internet, I have encountered that line. It's great.
Love that reference 😁
It's one of those things that I would watch if I had the time but there is so much of it that I can never get around to it. Especially with all of the ongoing series I keep up with. And Overwatch. There are only so many hours.
Its one of the best animated show and I too would highly recommend it. Theres a lot to watch and do today but if you can find time it’s worth watching.
Boomerang has Anticipatory Intelligence that makes him a duelist to check the calculating Deadshot.
The movie really should have been written around executing the line "Boomerangs always come back".
My favourite thing about Suicide Squad is everyone has ideas on how to fix the movie and they're always better than the actual movie. It's like the ultimate inspiration.
Ive noticed that same thing. Its basically this decades Star Wars prequel movies. Everyone knows a way to make a superior film because everyone has at least once read or seen a superior film that is kinda like what this movie should have been.
Everyone except Warner Bros apparently, they rushed this out into an abortion.
Funny enough DC is trying to catch up with the MCU but is going at it all wrong. They aren't even seeing and trying to replicate the process the MCU did to make them a powerhouse. Because we have years of successful MCU movies we all can easily see why Suicide Squad sucked and what can make it better. By the time this movie came out Marvel has already released 3 extremely successful superhero team movies. (4 if you count Civil War) Since Marvel and DC are the frontrunners with everything superhero related we automatically compare them.
They *shouldn't* be trying to replicate Marvel. They should be trying to make something that's awesome *and* different. Which they are - they just keep failing to stick that first bit. :/
Christopher Thomson The DCEU is trying to catch up to the MCU. DC is not trying to catch up with Marvel.
that boomerangs always come back line might have been enough to make me like suicide squad.
Ridiculously cheesy but DC might as well try a more comedic route because their dark and depressing universe isn't working too well.
It made me clench my teeth, I don't know man
You know the bit where wizard lady yanks their weapons away? You know who could have just had their weapon return by itself?
That's genius!
"Boomerangs always come back." That was golden
When Boomerang was on The Flash, he said that line four or five times and it was pretty great.
Nando v Movies the television series? I want to get into it but I have a hard time dealing with some of the acting. I'll give it a look though just to hear that line
The acting in season 1 is actually really good. Especially from Tom Cavanagh
I damn near lost my shit and threw my computer out the window when you said “boomerangs always return” it amazes me how warner brow missed out on such an amazing line, if suicide squad had that line in it I think I would’ve given it a 10/10 just off the sheer amount of balls required to put that line in
The end of the movie should be all suicide squad members choose to die instead of working for Amanda but she electrocutes them and refuses to let them die. Just like the comics
So what are they? Some suicidal squad?
*Nando:* Here's your character arc Lock-picking Guy.
*Capain Boomerang:* I used to be Boomerang Guy...
We'll come back to that one later
BECAUSE BOOMERANGS ALWAYS COME BACK, RIGHT!?!
...no? too soon?
Too soon man.
Who would win?
An army of zombies...
One Aussie Boi
General Kenobi! You are a bold one!
Your story ideas make me very disappointed at all the great opportunities that were missed and wasted. Keep up the great work, hopefully WB will hire you for it.
year lol
You know what they say, explaining what they did wrong to people that think they did do wrong already always lands you a job with the company you're insulting.
kyle magaro Why would he want to work at a shithole like WB?
Johnny Green Face If he was given a chance to write one of the DCEU movies he'd it's certainly worth it.
Battinson Forever
Love the use of Boomerang to discuss the movie as a whole. Really helps with the structure of the video. Well done!
Yeah, he really comes back to that a lot, doesn't he?
Now I will never be happy knowing I'll live in a world where Captain Boomerang doesn't say, "I told you. Boomerangs always come back" in a Suicide Squad movie.
The Ocean's eleven comparison is exactly what occurred to me as well. This is good. I like this channel.
Jithin Kumar thanks
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Why does every single alternate plot for Suicide Squad work so much better than the actual story?
i gotta say I wasnt expecting much going into this video - the movie just seems so unsalvageable but holy shit this sounds absolutely amazing
Sans Argonauts thanks!
It would be great if DCEU hired you at least part time
great take
makes his character have an actual arc
and the foreign espionage heist IS the ideal setting for the team
Everything he said was pretty on point. Loved the fact that he brought up that they (the studio) takes interesting characters and just negates the thing that MAKES them interesting. So true for this movie.
I hate this video...because it's so much better than the film we actually got. Nice work.
Man the DC writing team should just hire you. You manage to fix all of these
digydigdogdead nah
Kevin yah
DCEU producing a good script? Nah
@@DoNutx777 I mean script wasn't really that bad. I like the way they had lex speak, in cryptic talk.
It would be cool if like how you said at the end and got the unicorn back, if he then rips it’s head off and it shows he smuggled a boomerang inside.
I love it
And then alarms go off
I would save that for the start of the sequel, you know the hook. Starts with him ripping the Unicorn's head off and inside is a small boomerang with some small tech, the camera moves from the boomerang to his smile and pans to the bomb on the back of him. The Alarms go off showing that he used it to deactivate the bomb on him and maybe on the others. Right when it looks like the Squad is homefree, when suddenly they are all electrocuted. Revealing Amanda Waller just had some chips implanted recently that they were unaware of. She can say something about how happy she is to see their teamwork has improved because they got their next mission.
So this is some kind of...suicide squad
That line should have been so much later in the movie. Like late in the game they realize what's going on and then Lawton names the team. Gives it a lot more weight.
I think it could work better as two parter.
First the bait. During their preparation someone says, let it be Deadshot who cares, something like "So, this is some kind of suicide...mission, or what?"
And then later on in the movie let someone say "And now we're Suicide Squad.". Maybe after the bonding. That would work well I'd say.
*boomerang squad
I really, really, REALLY, like your writing and editing style. It's so minimalist, and simple. It gets the point across and it gets out.
No filler.
Thanks!
It was a pretty good interpretation of what should have happened...
BUT THAT BOOMERANG LINE WAS SOLID GOLD.
It's GOLD Jerry! GOLD!
You need to be hired
I say drop the Enchantress angle entirely. Have the squad travel the world, stealing from various DC nations (Atlantis, Gorilla City, etc.) or even just other supervillains, only to reveal that the items Waller was having them steal were components to ACTUALLY create an anti-superman weapon in the form of Captain Atom, who proceeds to kick their asses, throw them in prison, and set up the next film. It's a way of seeing a legitimate, Superman-type hero as the enemy of this group we should have come to enjoy, support, and care for, even if they are dickheads.
Kind of a Soon I Will Be Invincible vibe. "I saw the misadjusted dials and the whirling gauges and the bubbling green fluid and the electricity arcing around, and a story laid out for me... I was going to declare war on the world, and I was going to lose."
superkeaton I like that
That's a good idea... Therefore it doesn't belong in a DC movie produced by WB.
I fucking love captain boomerang. He represents my Aussie roots and is just a great character. I hated suicide squad's treatment of him. I like your new plot for the movie as well. Love your channel, keep up the amazing work.
This is perfect. Boomerangs always come back.
Resort Herpes always come back too but you don't hear anyone calling themselves Captain Herpes, do you?
JK, I just felt like saying that.
D Sandoval save that line for a Sequel.
You need to be the guy to save the dceu
One of my biggest problems with modern day Suicide Squad is that Harley Quinn makes no sense as a member. She should have been kicked off long ago and her being there never made sense. I think how you could make her work though is to have her be enlisted for a mission that involves the Joker and during the mission learn to get over the Joker and realize that the squad are real friends to her. It would help explain her being there and why she continues to be there.
To work it into your pitch you could have it so that Queen Bee has taken the Joker to Biolivia to design chemical weapons for her. I know some people don’t like Joker playing second fiddle but he has worked for middle eastern dictators in the comics (Death in the Family) so it’s not super far fetched.
Ooooh that's really interesting. I like it!
Having a Joker that plays second fiddle and uses weird gadgets and laughing gas is a great way to distance the character from Heath Ledger's and avoid comparisons.
HappenedBefore then again, he could betray the leading villain towards the end
Usually whenever harley is involved in Suicide Squad missions she is there because of her knowledge of the criminal underworld
I wanted Waller to use Harley as bait in order to lure Joker to the squad so she can capture him, proving Task Force X's competence... but Joker gets away when the Gotham based criminals, Deadshot and Killer Croc, do nothing to stop him because they know what happens when you mess with Joker.
These sorts of videos always upset me because the hypothetical story is SOOOO much better than the actual movie and we'll never get to see it
Zip Donkey ikr. Warner Bros should hire this guy
You missed the biggest disservice to Killer Croc...... Why they make this man crawl into the water when he's walked the whole movie? My entire theatre laughed at that and I don't think it was meant to be funny.
That weird crab walk thing looked TERRIBLE and got a big laugh at my theater too.
That was actually an amazing idea
Nando v Movie's comments in a nutshell
"During the pentagon meeting Hop asks." Caught that
Holy shit dude, these changes are great. Obviously hindsight is 20/20 but these are great ideas.
so true about hindsight but some things are NOT hindsight and are just lazy on the part of WB studio, like the part where he mentions that they take interesting characters and in the movie strip them of that thing that makes them interesting. that's just the studio cranking these movies out while they're still "hot" to make as much money as possible.
You should really be a storyline editor for the DCEU
Videos like this make screenwriting look so easy like how are actually writers messing up so badly
JoeleyMoley98 Cause they can write it but it isn't actually up to them whether or not it ends up on the big screen. That choice is left to much, much less creative minds
Dang dude, you're really good at fixing movies, you should do this way more often this is super entertaining
These videos where you give fixes to movies kicks serious ass I love it. I love the creativity keep it up man
Yea these kinda things are great. There's this one guy who did videos like that for the Star Wars prequel trilogy which were great. Just search "Belated Media What if Star Wars was Good", should be at the top
Jai was so good in the role, I hope he appears again in a Flash movie or Suicide Squad sequel just so that he can develop and become the much more interesting character that his comic counterpart possess.
More interesting than Slipknot?!? com'on!!! It's the guy who can climb ANYTHING!
Man I hate that he died in The Suicide Squad
Im just Halfway through the vid and I've already liked it
That's high praise!
The deadshot boomerang trickshot idea SHOULD have been in the movie...i wish DC watch's this video before"Suicide squad 2"...loved the video though...subing
I liked it before even watching
@@philipnguyen8591 Me too. I also liked the video before it started.
My favourite DC villain is killer moth I really hope they add him to a movie and don’t butcher him like suicide squad
God I was this close to mentioning KM as one of my favorite Silver Agers but I found out he was from the early 50's. Which blows my mind.
I love moth but if they had him in the dceu they would automatically just turn him into a big demon guy without having any fun with him.
God same
Teen titans KM is best KM
OriginalName outside of the comics he is
Another great fix keep it up
Sean Velez thanks!
Second time that with just voice over and video loops you give me way bigger experience and satisfaction than I got watching the actual movie. Master ideas, master script, master dialogues. Please make your path through Hollywood and make all us happy!
Thanks!
I love the five minute standing ovation to boomerangs always come back.
YES OMG i get so excited every time I get a notification that you have a new video, ur videos are so great and make me wish the movies were the way u made them
Thanks!
This was AMAZING! Thanks so much for putting this together!
Thanks!
In my opinion, Suicide Squad should have been an Ocean's 11 style heist movie where the victim is the joker, and where each squad members unique skill set gets utilised for a bizarrely specific element of the robbery.i think that could of been a lot of fun for the audience to see the hustle unfold and how things as random as Boomerangs and Ropes were critical parts of this outlandish master plan.
That would also make Harley Quinn’s presence make more sense. Maybe she could be there to (unknowingly) bait out the Joker or something.
That sounds better than what we got. It's like a real movie.
Okay so did no one notice he called David Habours character from Suicide Squads “Hopps” which is his characters name in Stranger Things???
Oh sweet jesus McJesus! A new nando vid!?! Yuuuuuussss!!
Once again you provide a pretty decent fix for the movie my only real major complaint is that you didn't detail any plans to eject The Joker out of them film at 1000 MPH
I'm so glad I found your channel, I haven't found one so completely full of quality content in a while! :D
You seriously need a job helping write movies. Just you describing your idea for Suicide Squad was better than thr actual movie . Keep up the great work!
*Suicide Squad definitely should've been a SMALLER SCALE superhero movie.* We didn't need another team of misfits fighting a big bad green person who has an army of faceless monster-henchman in a destroyed city, all while a big blue lazer shoots up into the sky...
I love your ideas, specifically the "Boomerangs always come back" line and the character stuff. The character should've been the focus here. Would've loved to see your version of a covert Ocean's 11, style movie, with only one addition: a little bit of Doctor Strangelove thrown in.
Imagine the movie with an over-arching, constantly exacerbating, global-political plot, with consequences as serious as nuclear Armageddon during the Cold War, but, like Doctor Strangelove, it isn't taken too seriously by the movie itself. The film could've been a bit of a satire, which might've allowed it to stand out amongst its peers. It's still a great premise.
It would've also given some opportunity to satirize and explore the kind of government-bureaucracy and clandestine shit that leads to teams like the Suicide Squad to begin with.
Boomerang could be the guy who loves "getting around things" (hence lockpicking, boomerangs, hacking). There could be a rivalry between boomerang and deadshot where they argue about their respective weapon effectiveness.
Deadshot could make fun of Boomerang for throwing around toys, and Boomerang points out guns aren't subtle and (with deadshot excluded) need straight lines of sight and are predictable (which he may despise).
Bring up the "knives are more effective within 5 meters" argument. Boomerang and Deadshot could show competition of skill throughout the movie with trick shots/throws, then as you stated in the video, at the climax the two combine their skills to pull off an amazing boomerang-richochet trickshot.
In doing this, you can show the team relationship being galvanized with mutual respect.
What I'm basically saying is, make a DC-branded "The Expendables".
That's true. Their conflict does sound a lot like the Stallone/Statham rivalry in Expendables.
You could establish Deadshot as relatively new to the criminal world, who only turned to crime to afford his daughter a comfortable life (she infirm and need regular expensive medication). He could be a really amazing distance/accurate shooter that doesn't do trickshots at the beginning of the movie, but not to be outdone by Boomerang, he starts doing trickshots.
One of the problems I've seen ppl complain about the movie is that it seemed like it was Will Smith + a bunch of DC characters. I think it would help to establish a friendly rival relationship such as this to ground the Deadshot character with the team.
And eliminate the Rick Flag character (or place him somewhere else) and make Deadshot the leader of the team, he can be the guy who thinks he knows the most effective straightforward plan, but then Boomerang comes in with an idea that is unpredictable, providing a new angle to approach the problem.
The whole film felt like the team and audience are just being strung along. But by giving the Squad more prerogative in what happens during the mission, there will be more suspense as everyone won't know what will happen next.
As for the actual mission, I like the idea of bialya. Something could be done with Queen Bee makes an under-the-table deal (Amanda Waller overseeing) with the US government for a grab for more power in the region. Or a country like Kahndaq could be used to set up the future Shazam film, where the Suicide Squad help Teth-Adam overthow Asim Muhunnad.
Yaaaasss a new Nando video
Dammit, you did it again. They should start sending scripts to you for approval. Your versions are always so much better. You're one of the only movie critics who actually offers a potential solution instead of just complaining about it. Well done good sir.
Thanks!
Absolutely genius. Just watching this video is a better experience than any DC movie from the past 5 years
Lemme try writing a tactical nfeakdown for Cpt Boomerang:
Waller: Digger Harkness AKA Captain boomerang
Guy 1: Boomerangs.. Really?
Waller: Ignoring his unique choice of weapon he's a world class safe breaker and lockpick, digital or mechanichal he'll open it in a short amount of time.
Guy 2: Waller we can send in a tactical locksmith (dunno if its a thing)
Waller: Need I remind you he's gone toe to toe with a class A meta and even beat him once. Furthermore his odd weapon choice makes him ideal for hitting targets from blindspots and stealth takedowns. Plus his accuracy is comparable to Lawtons.
Is the class A meta they are referring to The Flash ?
I had anxiety after watching Suicide Squad. You've officially quelled it. And even though the better movie exits in my mind, that's okay. Thank you =D
You should make these into a series dude, like all your videos they are so good! There are so many movies on the verge being great that lend themselves to your editing (iron man 3, justice league, thor TDW, the Star Wars prequels/last Jedi, Jurassic world, etc.). Keep up the good work 👏🏼
Funny you said that. I was up super late last night and an idea for Iron Man 3 just came to me. I like it a lot. That will probably be the the next video.
You’re a genius. I was so excited for boomerang before they movie came out and you really put my dreams into words with this video
A single sensible chuckle escaped me on that "boomerangs always come back" line, well done. Honestly I would have watched this movie just for this character had it been the one you pitch here.
Watching your videos make me so mad knowing what should've done in these movies. A trick shot at the end with Deadshot bouncing a shot off of a boomerang is an amazing idea!
Keep up the amazing videos man
Trick shot of a bullet bouncing on a boomerang, now that's something that I would love to see!
I really like how such a huge change can come from a slight modifications of one character. Or even understanding a character better. Well done for sticking up for a favourite character of yours and making a strong proposal for a better movie.
So so good! Love how you accentuated boomerang' page. Brilliant
I absolutely love it man. thank you,for brightening my day
If boomerangs always come back,then i guess i'm a boomerang,'cuz i will always come back to your videos for entertainment.
Aw thanks!
I think the DCEU suffers from the same problem as the X-Men movies. They don’t seem to understand their characters. They throw in character names and superpowers and hope that the action will sell tickets.
I would let them put big flashy characters in but kill them often to prove they are expendable. Make Deadshot and Boomerang rivals that work together for that final moment (doing that trick shot) and focus more on them. And make them the opposite if the league.
Use Boomarang to illustrate how even though he has no powers he doesn’t need them because as you say he can pick licks.
Use Deadshot to show how training is better than raw power.
Use Harley to show how insane people defeating gods is by having her make comments like “I’m glad that god had one vulnerable, easy to spot, glowing weakness. What is this a computer game.”
So pissed off on how they treated Cyclops in the X-men movies. Hes the leader of the team for a reason. Hes not just some one dimensional jerk, hes alot more powerful than the movie let on. Had to have Wolverine still the fucking spotlight, at least nightcrawler was cool. Had to go and fuck up one of my favorite characters of all time, thats Gambit.
Shawn Macdonald The X-men movies are even more disappointing when you realise they have had so many chances to fix it. They use good ideas to reboot the series but don’t fix the problems and it’s an easy fix. (they somehow make it worse)
Make it the original 5 X-men versus Magneto on his own. Show how bad ass Magneto is and how the X-men work together to defeat him.
If they did the original story where Magneto is going to fire a nuke you can show how each X-man has skills that allow them to infiltrate a government facility and are trained to be a team.
That original comic even introduces them perfectly with a training montage that explains their powers and personality, they don’t need to add much to make it a movie.
One of the few times I have laughed out loud watching a video essay, great stuff, subscribed!
Loving this channel so much. I got onto it 2 days ago and went through all the videos super quick, wanted more, but ended up spending ages thinking about all the different ideas and points made. And then I treated myself to a good time by watching tons of comic movies :D keep up the awesome work
thanks!
Nando my favorite C-list villain from dc is probably the floronic man, boomerang is obviously yours, what's you favorite b or c lust villain from marvel? Ive allways liked Palladian and that Nazi made of bees that Spiderman fights (swarm?)
That's a great question. MODOK is my favorite but he's everywhere now, so I don't think he fits. I mentioned Stilt Man in one of my videos from a while back. He's great. Sauron just wants to turn everyone into dinosaurs, so he's also a pretty solid pick. There was an evil Captain America from the 50s who has a pretty wild backstory. I'm probably gonna have to go with Stilt Man.
Nando v Movies yeah stilt man is awesome. And red ghost and the super apes are also primo silver age but they could also be made to work with a modern audience (sorta a super power planet of the apes thing)
Think The Spot is C-List? He's pretty awesome.
GroovyGreaser I LOOOOOOVE the spot!!! I actually did a redesign of him as a good guy next generation hero when I was younger. Sort of the spots son as an A list street level hero trained by Spider-Man and allied to his daughter may Parker
I mean, my favourite villain is Carnage. Can't get much higher list than him. I also love Mysterio and Shocker.
Wow you deserve way more subs, the quality of your videos is so high!
Also, you should replace zack snyder....
Screw the subs he needs to hired by dc to save their cinimatic universe lol
ive listened to many of your movie ideas and i just wanted to say that you are a genius, ive got a lot of admiration and id like to see u write some movies to be totally honest.
You've definitely saved CB, I loved it, and the line "Boomerangs always come back" awesome
Geez! Why aren't you writing for the DC cinematic universe?
I clicked on this because I figured there was no way you were going to convince me Captain freakin' Boomerang could possibly be saved. Thankfully, I was wrong.
Yo Nando v Movies I love your videos, only watched 3, but they were in a row and this just is amazing
Thanks! I try to make as many as I can but it takes a while to produce them. New one should be coming soon on the least controversial movie of 2017, The Last Jedi.
So far of your videos I’ve only watched “Big Gray Villains” and this one. But, wow, these are brilliant. Great work!
+Hanzo Main thanks Hanzo Main. Need healing.
Yes, u finally uploaded. U do not know how long i have been waiting.
Thanks! I'm guessing about a month.
Nando v Movies yep oh and hope u had a nice 2017 I sure didn't
So much love for your work bruh!
Thanks!
I love the work you do man you describe it so well I can see the movie playing in my head
These videos are so good! so well made! having just 42K subscribers (for now) is so unbelievable. Please don't stop making these videos!
A boomerang as a weapon is absolutely ridiculous
A BATerang on the other hand.........toooooooooooootally fine : )
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Government Official Hopper: "What if Superman had decided to grab the president right out of the Oval Office? Who would've stopped him?"
Red Guardian: "Me. I would have."
I have been binging your vids and, wow, these are amazing. You got one more subscriber in me. Keep them coming
There were a lot of very good ideas in this video. I especially liked how Captain Boomerang being a master lock picker who happens to throw boomerangs shows signs of thinking through the idea much better than the writers of the movie unfortunately did. Good idea. Good thought process. Keep up the good work.
Thanks!
Haha this was awesome! I loved it more
You should just make a whole version video where you fix all of the DCCU
MIke Auld Yes he really should!
I got chills from that line. Good work.
My God, this was incredible! I would watch the living hell out of your version of the Suicide Squad. The absolute best part, was when you focused on the team working together. Harkness throws his boomerang, and Deadshot bounces the round off and into Enchantress. That alone would have made the movie watchable for me.
I'd love for the sequel to be set in santa prisca prison with bane as the villain
James Phelan ohhh! THAT would be genius
The movie was going good when the first look came out for the movie but it all failed when warner Bros decided to change the tone in such little time
WOW bro! i really love your ideas. I'm speechless for the moment, but keep up the good work man. I've watched all your videos one after the other.
Thanks Cedric!
Great video as always- keep them coming!
How/Why are you not a famous screen writer? Your suggestions for movies are great and IMO would make many of the movies you've made videos about much better. You fix em... That's the point. It seems such a waste no one's consulting you or at least someone to preemptively fix many a train wrecks.
Saw your question in the MrSundayMovies video! You're famous!
Sean Lee-Levins #antmanantvan
This is so brilliant. You really hit the mark pointing out how the film under utilized each characters gimmick
I just re-watched this video, and your punchline at the end + the personality you painted him with (selfish) makes the boomerang gimmick actually make a lot of sense in character. Bullets, throwing knives, etc. All of that means money, but he is so greedy, he picked the one ranged weapon that comes back so he doesn't spend much money on them. Add to that him being cocky and liking a challenge (that is why he made a point to rob every bank in Australia and went to the states for a new challenge, and indeed how he became so good at lock picking and why he robs in the first place - he has to prove he just can pull it off), and it makes perfect sense as a weapon of choice with that profile (saves money + it is a very challenging tool to use well).