America Divided | Douglas Wilson
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- John Anderson enjoys a long conversation with Douglas Wilson on culture wars, American politics, what it means to be a Christian, and whether Christians can be nationalists.
Doug Wilson is a theologian, minister of Christ Church Moscow (Idaho), Senior Fellow at New Saint Andrews College, prolific author, and advocate of Christian education.
He has written almost 80 books on a Christian vision for life, plus multiple novels, children's books, and collections of poetry, through the publishing outfit Canon Press. Doug also runs a regular blog and podcast. A firm Presbyterian, Doug uses the catchphrase 'All of Christ, for all of life' to encompass his various projects aimed at renewing a Christian culture.
Previously Doug appeared in the documentary 'Collision', where he debated renowned atheist Christopher Hitchens over the question 'Is Christianity good for the world?' The two went on to write a book under the same title.
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00:00 Intro
00:44 Introducing Doug Wilson
02:27 Why are you a Christian?
06:51 Debating Christopher Hitchens
17:01 'Secular' education
24:15 Two revolutions
30:03 Marxist long march through the institutions
38:24 'Fly-over country'
41:40 Covid panic
49:37 Trump v Biden
56:43 Classical education
1:07:33 'The God of the system'
1:10:05 'All of Christ for all of life'
1:13:18 The Founding Fathers
1:19:15 How to fight like Christ
1:23:46 What really matters in the end?
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Grateful that we have a voice like John Anderson in Australia interviewing other important voices.
Thank you for presenting Protestant Christianity in such an agreeable, and respectful, intelligent way. It is a joy to listen.😊
"If there is no God above the State, then the State becomes God."
An odd statement that presupposes that something must be in the 'God' slot. Have you considered that it could be the case that nothing occupies that slot for some?
@@joejohnson9499 Something higher than you and the material I believe is essential
That something has many names
@Sean Moran I'm not sure how to words this, but I will try.
I see two concepts in play here. One is the existence of something higher/outside of the material (time/space if you will). And the other is a person's consideration wherein they worship a singular thing/idea 'above all other'. I refer to the second as a 'God slot'.
My previous statement only addresses the second concept. I'm saying that it is possible for nothing to occupy the 'God slot' for a person. The statement that I responded to was essentially saying that the 'God slot' cannot be vacant.
Perhaps that's why the pledge of allegiance states, "one nation under God."
@@_Keith_ Or perhaps it was added in 1954 because "We ain't no godless commies!"
As a young man, I never saw this side of our Deputy PM and frankly if I did, it would have been like looking at an alien. Feels like missing a treasure. Great discussions.
Listening to Douglas Wilson is like listening to a Founding father of the Republic brought to life.
Except many of them were deists.
Jefferson didn’t believe in the divinity of Jesus.
@@liedersanger1 of the 55, 4 were deists. 1 was irreligious. 50 were orthodox Christians.
Nailed that one
No, Listening to Douglas Wilson is not like listening to a Founding Father. Even making a claim like that is bizarre. It's like claiming that vanilla tastes like chocolate.
The founding fathers designed the government around a God that grants freedom to humans. That was their justification for revolution. Douglas Wilson believes that everything happens according to divine decree. They are 100% completely different. Literally opposites.
I could sit and listen to Mr. Wilson for many more hours. He has become one of my favorites over the last few years.
Same here
I agree. Dough Wilson is definitely on my short list of trusted Christians. When I first heard him, I was impressed. Then I googled his name and was shocked at how much he was hated. But many interviews like this one reveal a Christian leader who fears God, and therefore fears no man. I am greatly blessed by the many resources Canon Plus offers. It has introduced me to other learned pastors and writers unknown to me.
Wonderful interview. Intelligent questions. Great answers.
Yes ❤❤❤
Did you catch NBCs "hit" piece on Wilson last September? (Wasn't much of a hit ... they were mostly fair w/him.) Enjoy:
ua-cam.com/video/ymyAXjc1je4/v-deo.html
WONDERFUL interview with Pastor Wilson!!! Thank you so much!!!
Doug Wilson!!! Jordan Peterson was asked when he spoke here in Seattle “When are you going to speak to Doug Wilson?”…. Let’s go!!!
I don't know why I've never heard of this gentleman before. Quite a wonderful conversation. John Anderson is the best interviewer anywhere - he brings his own amazing knowledge and understanding to every conversation and asks the best questions - and allows his guests to answer! Love John Anderson.
The Doug bug bites again … enjoy! 😁
It would be an understatement that the powers that be are not going to help Right-inclined people to make connections with like-minded people and to learn about people like Doug Wilson. That's why you've never heard of him before.
Indeed. In this case, “the powers that be” don’t even have to try much because the influential evangelicals are busy doing their job for them. DW speaks truth too bluntly for their “winsome” taste; he exposes their weaknesses and unfaithfulness, and they can’t stand it.
Amazingly, Pastor Wilson made the national news media last September ... thanks for the help, NBC!! ua-cam.com/video/ymyAXjc1je4/v-deo.html
BARILOCHE A R G E N T I N A
Great interview and discussion. I always look forward to John Anderson's programs.
I put my son in a classical Christian school and he got an outstanding education. I never knew this man started it all. My sons school had 12 seniors when he started and his class had over 100 graduates in 2017. There is definitely a need
NEUQUÉN CHUBUT
A R G E N T I N A
We really need to _Home School Every Child in America!_ Let's Do It! Why should any kid ever become any smarter . . . than MOM! Also, _Home Dentistry!_ - j q t -
@quill444 most home schools are a co-op. They meet a few times a week for classes. Different parents, usually with college degrees, teach all the children a subject they are qualified for. Lots of stay at home parents have college degrees. Some parents control their own business so could drop by and teach. My financial advisor would come by and teach finances/business to the older kids. We had 300 kids in our homeschool group. I taught wood carving as an elective. People with Biology degrees taught Biology etc. No behavioral issues at all ever. It's the perfect education system. Government school students have the lowest test scores in every category its the worst possible education and it wastes kids entire day. Most homeschool groups do more in half a day so kids can do their hobbies and learn other valuable skills. Some I knew learned Chinese others learned violen/cello. You don't know much about homeschool.
Having been a card toting agnostic pseudo Buddhist for the better of 55 years, a twice baptized devout believer and completed several tours as a raging atheist, I must say Mr. Wilson articulated the case for doctrine as well as I have ever heard or read.
Thank you Mr. Anderson.
SAN MARTIN DE LOS ANDES
VILLA LA ANGOSTURA
BARILOCHE
A R G E N T I N A
When did you surrender?
That may be the most obtuse description of oneself I have ever encountered. 🤔
Abstruse, sorry. It's still a good word.
It's cause you are weak minded and let someone else sway you from not being an individual, seek help from a professional and not this false facts spewing serpent
I'm a retired public school teacher. What he said about the public schools is spot on. The students don't even stand to say The Pledge of Allegiance, and of course you can't tell them to or how disrespectful it is.
Modern Educayshun - ua-cam.com/video/iKcWu0tsiZM/v-deo.html
CHILE ARGENTINA ICE HOCKEY
F the Pledge of Allegiance!
Douglas Wilson is a legend and gentleman. Praise Jesus for this man.
This is NOT an interview I saw coming. Wow! Thanks!
PATRICIA BULLRICH ARGENTINA
I’m a non Christian also a non anything. But, WOW, that was impressive I’m still looking. ❤️❤️
Well, either Jesus was a complete fraud and liar, or He was/ is who He said/ says He is... and if He didn't rise from the grave as He said He would and as 4 men tesitify to and eyewitnesses of His resurrection (Matthew, John, Peter, and Paul) in the New Testament, then our faith is futile.
Sir, if you would consider looking into the validity of Scripture and how it has been preserved and passed down to us (there is no other ancient book in history that has more manuscript evidence), you may consider that all that is written therein is true... And when and if this happens, you will see evidence in your own life (proof, if you will) that He is the One He claims to be. Something will happen to you just to show your faith is not in vain, I guarantee it. Your world will change. Beware, this road is not for the weary. You must carry your cross.. You are not a good person. You have sinned many times and need forgiveness from Him. You must repent and lay down your life in order to save it; and His gift is eternal life. He will raise you up on the last day just as He Himself was raised from the dead, and life eternal will be yours. Jesus is the way, truth, and the life- no one can go to God except thru Him. He is the gate and our great High Priest.
Look into it sincerely. Call out to Him while you can. "God is gracious and compassionate; slow to anger and abounding in love." (Psalm 103)
God bless. Please consider my words. You will not be disappointed.
Again, it is not easy. It's not for the faint of heart.. but well worth it! You'll never be the same.. and one day you will thank me
:) You're welcome (in advance).
Thank you so much, both of you, for the interview, the kindness, and the clarity that characterize this interview and discussion. You both are gifts of God to thoughtful citizens.
SAN MARTIN DE LOS ANDES
VILLA LA ANGOSTURA
BARILOCHE
A R G E N T I N A
😂 these guys? Be real they're just profiting off of a group of easy to convert individuals and made buisn3ss from it. He shall pay the price before (the real )jesus when its his time to go
This very interesting conversation is a rarity. I listened to it in the bath, during washing up, and planning my shopping trip for tomorrow. In fact I am going to listen to it all again for days to come! Thank you both for an enlightening conversation and (as one of your other commentators said) “presenting Protestantism in such a respectful, agreeable and intelligent way” (rochellecaffee). Thanks to all.
I love this man 's thinking... never heard him before. It's like listening to an original modern-day Protestant
Reformer.
Where he places God in his life is truly wonderful - he actually has a relationship with Jesus proves: " as a man speaketh , so is he in his heart."
And anyone who can love the most disrespectful Christopher Hitchens , is a saint.
What a refreshing conversation; gave me hope.
P.S.- liked the idea of Non-Government-Funded Christian Schools.
I worked with an atheist I told her God loves you just as much as he loves me. And you are not even trying. She smiled
Switzerland is a Socialist nation, I lived there for a year. Socialism works there very well. Thank-you very much.
@@rodneyrickard3763
BARILOCHE
SAN MARTIN DE LOS ANDES
VILLA LA ANGOSTURA
USHUAIA
A R G E N T I N A
Doug is an amazing speaker and debater. And his “collision” with Christopher Hitchens was also a major step forward in the postmill advance of the gospel.
Wonderful interview from a wonderful host, I really respect the both of you. John I love your channel and your humble demeanor. Doug Wilson is spot on diagnosing America’s issues. American church leadership has become too preoccupied with seeker friendly methods, marketing and trying to get people to like them rather than becoming well read, articulate, loving God with their minds and standing on truth.
USHUAIA AURORA AUSTRAL
A R G E N T I N A
Thank you for this interview. I first came across Doug Wilson when I bought a video about 10 years ago of a debate between Christopher Hitchens and Mr Wilson. Their fondness for each other and classical literature was evident. It is only in the last 2 years I have started listening to Mr Wilson more regularly. He is such a blessing. Grace and peace.
This was such a valuable conversation… not only was it easy to understand and it’s spurred me on to really understand the enemy, and arguing in good faith.
AXEL KICILLOF A R G E N T I N A
Great conversation. I really hope and pray that Doug and Jordan Peterson will get together sometime for a discussion and let us all watch!
I don’t. As much as I like JBP, he might dominate the conversation which can be annoying because I also want to hear DW!
TIERRA DEL FUEGO AURORA AUSTRAL
A R G E N T I N A
This conversation was so insightful and illuminating. Very eloquent and well stated. Thank you for sharing your observations. Spot on. 😊
Fascinating gent, thanks for bringing him to our collective attention.
That was like audio GOLD. BRILLIANT conversation.
Trump's most important gift to this country was his genius for inducing the progressives to identify who they really are. He empowered and awakened us to the depth of our internal threat.
USHUAIA TIERRA DEL FUEGO
A R G E N T I N A
So glad I watched this, it has been truly inspiring and uplifting. Perhaps the best thing I've seen on UA-cam yet.
SAN MARTIN DE LOS ANDES
VILLA GESELL
A R G E N T I N A
Most brilliant, informed and full of wisdom conversation I've heard in years! Absolutely fantastic. Thank you both. Voices of reason are in short supply these days
Doug is GREAT! His book Father Hunger is excellent!
USHUAIA TIERRA DEL FUEGO
A R G E N T I N A
Mr. Anderson is an impressive listener
Probably the best explanation I've heard of the Trump phenomenon. Comparing it to chemo, because we know we have cancer. It's unbelievable how few people are capable or willing to make an analysis like this. Politics involves tradeoffs, you can't just criticize someone without reference to the overall context.
No, all Trump supporters are racists and bigots. Simple as!
Nah, nah, nah , nah 🙉 I won't listen to any other explanation .
PUNTA DEL ESTE URUGUAY
Thank you so much for this wonderful conversation. I will not speak for the "Jesus People" but as a "rural american" I'm proud to have such an arbiter
Wonderful conversation; honest, intelligent, timely. Blessings to you both.
It is heartening to hear of these schools teaching the core values of Christian life.May they bloom where they are planted. It took far to long for Americans to wake up to the fact that the destructors of their country has been harnassed by their enemies to march through their educational institutions.
This was outstanding John Anderson get some excellent people on
I am encouraged he was friends with the late Peter Hitchens. That says a lot about both of them. I admire that spirit of communion - even if diametrically opposed on the subject of God and religion.
You mean Christopher
Peter is very much alive
I highly recommend The Rage Against God by Peter Hitchens
@@seanmoran2743 I was referring to Hitchens and mistakenly wrote "Peter". Sorry for confusion. The late Hitchens' younger brother is "Peter" (who happens to believe in God - unlike his late older brother)
So many great insights, thank you! Much needed discussion and so well articulated. All respect! I will listen a second time.
Superb conversation! Thank you to both men. ;-)
Thank you Mr Anderson, first time viewer, and this was a great interview
Yes I am grateful everyday for my Christian family which includes two Ministers
Brilliant! Thanks, John, for this great interview.
This is excellent John. Thanks for your good work with these interviews. More people need to hear these ideas!!
USHUAIA AURORA AUSTRAL
A R G E N T I N A
*Quarantine is the authority to limit the movement of a sick person. Tyranny is the authority to limit the movement of a healthy person.*
Woohoo! Doug is making the big leagues!! Now on to Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan!
What a great conversation! God bless
Excellent job gentlemen!
Food for thought in a peaceful environment for those who want a civil future for our children while we wait for our true home where we can be in the presence of our savior forever.
My two favourite Christian leaders in one interview!
JAVIER MILEI A R G E N T I N A
I’m not a Calvinist, but Doug Wilson has become one of my heroes.
Douglas isn't either.
@@EyreEver He most certainly is.
@@EyreEver His answer to why he's a Christian was not Calvinist.
@@1Whipperin
BARILOCHE A R G E N T I N A
@@danielasterling6936 What about it?
Excellent conversation John! Douglas is an interesting person to listen to
Just imagine our founding fathers had an hrs long prayer meeting before their sessions
The opening sentence captivated me immediately .
Thanks for doing this, John. Really like Doug.
BARILOCHE
SAN MARTIN DE LOS ANDES
VILLA LA ANGOSTURA
USHUAIA
A R G E N T I N A
Whatever an individual thinks about God, or the ideation of a God, His standards forever shall be greater than one’s own.
Cannot argue with the Manufacturer’s Handbook.
What an excellent, informative conversation!
MAR DEL PLATA A R G E N T I N A
Even now, God of the Universe is still in control. FABULOUS !!
If he really is in control, he's pretty sadistic.
Well, well. I've been reading DWilson since 1992 and this is the first I've seen him on the same visibility level as someone like Jordan Peterson. He holds his own as well as anyone. More coherent than Peterson, too, on average. I wonder when he'll be on Rogan.
An hour in and I love this interview!
Fabulous conversation. Thank you
BARILOCHE
SAN MARTIN DE LOS ANDES
VILLA LA ANGOSTURA
USHUAIA
A R G E N T I N A
Countries like individuals are going through 3 stages, growth, stagnation and decline, and the US state has experienced growth and the recession phase has passed and the features of the third stage have emerged.
Getting out of the final decadence can be made by wise men who work to prevent state decadence.
I chuckled when Pastor Doug gave his analysis of President Trump, he’s spot on.💯
Great interview, Mr Anderson.
BARILOCHE
SAN MARTIN DE LOS ANDES
VILLA LA ANGOSTURA
USHUAIA
A R G E N T I N A
Very interesting discussion. Keep these videos coming.
Such an important discussion.
Excellent.
This is such a fruitful conversation.....thank you so much !
USHUAIA TIERRA DEL FUEGO
A R G E N T I N A
This was great. Loved it. Fabulous wide ranging, intelligent discussion. Thank you.
Very good interview. Very well done by John also. Very insightful on a variety of issues. Thank you for this!
SAN MARTIN DE LOS ANDES
MAR DEL PLATA
A R G E N T I N A
Amen brother!
I'm from the Palouse. Glad you got to drive through it. We aren't just the muscle of America, but increasingly we're also the tech people, the software engineers, the people who run all of the infrastructure. We do it all. Even in the tech companies that are rightfully painted as left leaning, the core people are split. The top and the bottom are the leftists, but many of the experienced middle are just shunned and self censoring for fear of losing their well earned positions. I think that, unfortunately, the best thing for our country would be another great depression ... it's either that or revival... I don't see a mass humbling of oneselves, and so the humbling will be forced upon people.. it's gonna get uglier from those who refuse to learn..
CHILE PARAGUAY ARGENTINA
SOUTH OF BRAZIL URUGUAY
A M S T R A L I A
I just want to say that Trump and his bombastic ways was perfect for the times. Besides his great service with the Supreme Court picks, his greatest service was to rip aside the curtain on the platitudes of the politicians and their cozy relationship with the MSM. He exposed all the corruption in DC and in certain States. Trump and his 'mean' tweets did that ... and I think, he did that with so much humor ... had me laughing. A more 'Presidential' person would not have been that effective in doing that.
This is great! Tears of joy!
For those of you outside the States or on the coasts, you might not realize that their is a substantial Christian homeschooling community that is teaching and living the way Pastor Wilson is talking about. And we are having 2-3 times more children than the secularists and mainliners. We will transform this nation educationally and demographically. Pastor Wilson articulates are worldviews well, although theologically we might differ on some Christian doctrine.
"And we are having 2-3 times more children than the secularists and mainliners. "
Yes. This is increasingly important in todays world, where the fertility rates have fallen well below replacement.
It's not just the March through the Institutions, it's the therapeutic self, it's the conception of freedom as libertinism, it's the aching void from loss of community and of family
Thank you for providing some very important insights for a confused person, such as myself, to reflect upon.
Interesting conversation. Thank you.
Excellent episode. Sharing now.
They have contempt for us. We are so far beneath them they have no reason to debate with us. DW speaks exactly what I think.
That was a great interview. You've earned yourself another subscriber Mr. Anderson!
The assertion that Trump and Biden both alike divided this nation, I shook my head vehemently. Glad Doug Wilson responded to that the way he did because it's just not true that they're the same. I voted for Trump both times and glad of it. Doug can't say he helped with the defeat of Hillary, even though he was relieved at the outcome.
Thank you; very good discussion
Absolutely outstanding.
MAMUSCHKA BARILOCHE
A R G E N T I N A
Thank you, great interview!!!
thank you
good quality debate and conversation
I am a Catholic returnee from Protestantism years ago. I do agree with Mr. Wilson. I know that what the woke look forward to would be a nightmare.
Super interview.
Beanbag chair- great analogy loved it
Doug is a wizard.
MAMUSCHKA BARILOCHE
A R G E N T I N A
R O C K conversation , thank you, Lord , thank you, gentlemen , Psalm 119 :176 .
Brilliant!
Lovely and lively. Doug can throw a punch too in debate which would be interesting to witness. Jesus called some a brood of vipers, whitewashed tombs. Paul also was not slow in caling out the Sanhedrin
Then Paul said to him, “God will strike you, you whitewashed wall! You sit there to judge me according to the law, yet you yourself violate the law by commanding that I be struck!”
I don't find it difficult to believe that an atheist and a theist would get along. I am in the former camp, and I can easily befriend a devout Christian so long as we don't clash on material political stances. I suppose such a conflict is easy to avoid because I am a political conservative, like so many believers.
Chesterton & Bernard Shaw are another 2 who formed a friendship yet had very opposing views on basically everything
Excellent interview
Excellent discussion
the bean bag analogy is great
I admir parents who homeschool. They will have children who are not brainwashed liberals. They will be better educated well rounded good productive citizens
I love this man
Aussie cChristian, what novelty. I joke but only half. Great interview, ty
“Our constitution presupposes a moral and religious people.”-John Adams. De Tocqueville would ditto that too.🙏🏈
Yes, except for slavery, no vote for women, annihilating the native americans, starting wars with Spain to obtain land, sponsoring coups in many countries during the last century, etc. Other than that, a moral and religious people.
@@ron88303 None of what you mentioned, except for annihilation of the Indians, is immoral.