Should Christians be nationalists? | Doug Wilson
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- Опубліковано 6 бер 2023
- Doug Wilson enters the heated discussion over Christian nationalism, suggesting instead we pursue a 'bounded patriotism'.
Link to full interview: • America Divided | Doug...
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“I wish it need not have happened in my time,” said Frodo.
“So do I,” said Gandalf, “and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”
As far as I know, Christianity is not bound by nationality. So, I would say no.
It's not about christianity being a "thing" only for Americans, Swedes or Chinese, its if God values different etnicities, and if the nation states which has been the luciferian lefts #1 target of destruction are God's design and obiously it is if you look at scripture
When there is no God above the state, the state becomes god (By definition, an idol, a false god)-the highest authority in the lives of those governed.
Bingo.
When Wilson embraces the U.S. Constitution as "the supreme law of the land" (with no higher law) he makes himself a hypocrite when he implies he is not among those "who derive their ethical standards from their nation."
That,s why we have 2 words: patriotism & nationalism
All gods are fiction. People create gods, leprechauns, unicorns, jackalopes and Jedi Knights. People create fiction.
If there is no God above the State, the State becomes God. Nailed it.
That worked for USSR CCP, Cuba. Works for California governer Newsom and likely many US congressmen.
This is great from Doug Wilson. A thoughtful and powerful exposition of Christian nationalism which makes total sense.
The basis of Europen Culture and the Christain Religion was the fusion of Hebrew religious earnestness and the humanity of the Greeks. - Prof Kitto
James Madison told us a long time ago. Read his MEMORIAL AND REMONSTRANCE AGAINST RELIGIOUS ASSESSMENTS. No religion in government and no government in religion. God does not need government's help. And a government that uses God to rule is a tyranny (Muslims, anybody?).
Secular statism (our current form of government) is every bit a faith system (religion) as any sectarian form.
Madison's statement is nonsense. You cannot seperate religion from government because all law is based on somebody's religious consception of what is right and what is wrong.
The solution to godless humanism is Christian Nationalism. ✝️🇺🇸
What kind of a question is that?
You have to fight to win your space and time in history. There are so many countries who's culture is defined by religion. Preserving a nation is preserving the cultural inheritance of the religion.
People without too much history will never understand that.
This country was founded by non-Christian deists. Christianity was merely allowed, so for a time it flourished here. You want to know your current place in history? Study 9/11 and how easy it was to get Christians to buy into the lie.
It is assumed that every religion, every culture and every tradition has a self-defense mechanism in urging and repelling doubts and criticisms. Humans by nature are skeptical and receptive
The majority of people aren't skeptical, they bumble along doing what they're told.
@@jamesclark6487 What is your opinions about those who spread contempt for religions and spread a culture that contradicts the teachings of religion and revelation and spread atheism And how much does this affect the majority you mean?
NO!
The casual condemnation/dismissal of the proud boys undermines the credibility.
Simple answer, YES.
True, that's why it's not "obey your father and mother", honour is life long. Honour and Glory come from the same root Hebrew word meaning "weightiness". You put weight on what your parents say. I've also experienced The Glory [Person of The Holy Spirit], which is also 'weighty'. I was unable to stand upright during worship. In Solomon's Temple it says that the sanctified priests were unable to stand to minister because of [the weightiness of] The Glory.
And the Priests were unable to stand and to minister from before the cloud, because the house of LORD JEHOVAH was filled with the brightness of his Shechinah [Glory]. 2 Chron. 5:14 Aramaic
And they changed the glory of God, WHO is indestructible, into the likeness of the image of man, which is destructible, and into the likeness of birds and of four footed animals and of creeping things of The Earth. Rom. 1:23 Aramaic
Really Doug? You want the country run like you run Moscow Idaho, honey? You almost make Stalin look tame.
Smart guy. Articulate.
There exists no perfect societal blueprint. No absolute ideal. The success of civilization must simply be grounded firmly in the principle of consensus. All must have an equal voice but majority must rule. Again, no perfect system exists, and without consensus analysis, compromise and order cannot be achieved. Logic tempered and balanced with humanity and compassion is probably as close as we'll ever get to it.
Treystone1993: That's a wonderful statement of the humanist ideal. God has nothing absolute to say about human society or government, but we humans can arrive at pragmatic truth, "grounded firmly" in the will of the compassionate majority. Sounds like Eve: you shall be as God, determining for yourself what is good and what is evil.
The Bible is the perfect societal blueprint because God's government is the ideal government. Human civilization will not achieve success in the long term because too many ppl want to do whatever seems right to them. Your premise hinges on the notion that the majority will choose to do the right thing, which is inherently flawed. The Bible teaches in Exodus not to follow the mob because the majority is often wrong in their thinking.
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But I can tell you that you can find children of God in Romania too.
Easy answer: No.
Yep he's spot on
I hear you. Totally disagree. I meant to put a ? Mark at the end of it.
I’m looking at it from a follower of Christ, if Jesus was here today would he preach nationalism? I ask you chew and think about that
@@jacob4264 Would Jesus preach globalism? No, nation states are God's order after the tower of babel, the babylonian system and spirit of this world/age want globalism under the antichrist. Pro tip: Watch some of pastor Brandon Holthaus
@@someonethatisachristian lol I’m not arguing for that. My point is Jesus wouldn’t be preaching on whether you identify as American or Canadian or whatever, but rather the kingdom of god coming ti earth.
And that’s what I hear him doing is preaching pride for America. My original question was simply the outcome of that ideology.
So my question still stands, would Jesus be preaching pro America if he were here today? The answer is no and you no it lol
@@jacob4264 Jesus is a jew, his home nation is Israel, and jews are his people. When you're against nations you are against that. We are from nations across the world like Jesus were from his. The return of Israel is by God's design, a fulfilment of Ezekiel 36->. And Jesus will rule from Israel which will dominate the planet in the millennial kingdom.
@@someonethatisachristian okay bro 😎 . Good talking to you. I feel your missing my point. But it’s all good 👍
The Gods of the world see humans are dysfunctional They well replace ...make a new Adam & Eve Robots ChatGPT AI well be the new God
Chat GPT is already anti white.
I am.