@@hastur3201 it is federal, but I don't know what the punishment is. The Federal reserve needs to know how many dollars are in circulation so that they can include supply when determining the value of a dollar. It's difficult to do that when people are destroying them.
My husband knows someone called Frank who he's obsessed with, he never stops referring to him everytime he thinks he's right about something. He says "quite frankley" constantly...ugh its like he measures things by its frankness.
That’s exactly part of his point, it isn’t even about left or right, separating babies from their mothers is just wrong. Morally wrong. There’s no humanity there. And taking a side on this is stupid.
Clueless Lawdamercy Ruthless Institutionalizing children and tell them they are unwanted, and cheer how you were the reason why they are orphans ... Right or wrong, I don’t see anything positive coming from this.
@@NamelessKing1597Yeah but I refuse to go around imagining facial hair options before judging the compatibility of one's voice with their faces... Apart from that I don't agree with your comment.
Rayne SG a.k.a. inkyrayne so you presume all entering the country are trafficking kids? Why not do that with all adults you see with kids? That’s essentially what Trump is doing.
There are better ways though...fact is kids shouldnt be in cages. Not to mention, there are still children that have not been reunited with their deported parents.
That’s what is going on ! There! Concentration camps for children and adults... also, asking for asylum is not illegal, so no laws were broken to go to jail! This is trumps administration way of stoping legal immigration by people who are not white... trump and all his followers are racist and afraid to own that title
hector vazquez asylum speakers make themselves known and come through the ports of entry your just one of the sheep bleeting very loudly your clueless there are no concentration camps in America and to say that belittles the atrocities that actually occurred during the holocaust your disgusting and a moron if someone illegally sneaks into the country they should be immediately deported it is unfair for the thousands of people waiting for legal clearance into American idk how people like you stay so clueless and utter such stupidity without being called out
Creston Covington they commented on that as well. When talking about someone getting arrested for growing pot, their kids would be in foster care and the parent would rot in jail. They’re with you
Ummm... Joe.... American Citizens get separated from their childeren when they break the law... but it is completely immoral to do that when non citizens break the law? I don't think you have thought this through...
I'm pretty sure that criminals in the US are separated from their children when jailed. Unless it has become fashionable to send the kids to jail and serve the same sentence as their parents.
Yep! And for crimes like theft under, which I would say are equivalent to crossing the boarder illegally. The truth is they made the decision, they knew the consequences and it sucks that is has to happen but what is the alternative? Keep the kids in the cells with the parents? They broke the law, they have to bare the consequences. We can't just let everyone into the country, all that is going to happen is the country will turn into another 3rd world country. We already know what happens! Look at Germany and Sweden... This isn't some unknown experiment we need to run in the USA or Canada to find out whether it will work or not, we already know it doesn't.
@nihilismful when a family comes through a legal port of entry they are not separated. However if they illegally cross the border they are committing a crime and are separated because the laws were written to do so.
Joe Rogan, “And we wouldn’t be doing that to Canadians.” Sure, Joe. Try crossing the Canadian border with a child with no documentation. Shit gets real.
Most people calling for a civil war hasn’t studied history. More accurately, the history of civil conflicts in our own country and the death toll involved.
@@PissDrunxVato And you along with it Dewey. What do you think a civil war is? 2 groups duking it out in an arena while you watch? The arena will be your home you imbecile.
@@nonusbusinissus5632 I was about to say the same thing. Also, if you don't pick a side, a side will pick you. Its a damned if you do, damned if you don't deal.
The line isnt imaginary Joe, it's a border for our country, and all countries have borders and none of them want massive illegal entry. Every country has laws, they all enforce their laws. Why is our country or people considered bad when we want the laws we have established followed?
@S. - Sure it is! Parent commits a crime, kids get separated from parent. That is how the law works. It's fine that people don't like that aspect of the law but what isn't fine is blaming Trump for a law that predates his presidency and calling him a racist for it. You can thank the liberal media for socially engineering brain dead people to buy into these BS ideas.
@@xXxAmadeuzxXx Conquered by the Conquistadors, who these migrants are majority descended from. No one's pure and innocent here if you're talking about old history.
FYI, the separation of children from parents from their kids has been going on for years, and yes even during the Obama administration. The main reason is they cannot put a child with an adult while in confinement. If we did then you would be hearing cases about children getting abused while under US care? As with the majority of these issues the solution isn't simple and an effective solution hasn't been done with any previous administration! Our politicians have never really tried to fix it and never will!
The scary part is that their very parents see them as passports and I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen where they just hand over their infant to strangers who need a kid to go to border to be let in. Another instance was an 11 year old girl who border patrol asked where she was going then asked when is the last time you saw your parents? 11 years she answers. Since my birth. Doesn’t sound right.
Joe us talking out of his ass about that. I noticed he didn’t offer the solution to parents and kids coming across the border. Should we just pay for their room at the Hilton while they await their court date?
I think joe was being safe and sorta doin it jokingly but also serious. Like yeah let’s just make 100% sure no one catches shit and cover it up. You really think it’s that big a deal?
Modern children's services separates parents from kids for much less.. They took my daughter on unproven lies, almost 2 years later, no court verdict yet,.thousands of dollars fighting lies, missed my daughters first 2 birthdays.... Its sick... Its just sick and sad, pay support, have a full time job, no prior charges. No mental illness, no substance abuse. Ex is on large doses of anti depression or anti anxiety meds... This I what I get for loving someone with a bit polar issues or whatever it is when they hit you and hate you then love you an hour later.... I just don't want to miss my daughters life, iv never sat on the coutch with her and watched a movie.... This me too shit is all bullshit, men are being attacked and descriminated against so much right now...
Sweetchilliheat18 now imagine you had no money to fight it. If what you were accused of was at least a misdemeanor, without money to get out, you’d still be sitting in a jail cell right now, indefinitely.
Don't drag your kid across a border illegally and they won't be separated from you while you wait for your court date. Amazing concept I know youngskeletor idiot
Law breakers are separated from their kids EVERY DAY, it's called prison. The divorce courts also take kids off parents that's the job, Child services also does.
Yeah they also go through due process and are given visitation, also divorce courts give shared custody, you know this, you're just being a contrarian asshole
@@sadjohnny6120 I understand that completely but it seems like fighting for you way of life has died out and turned to run away and not necessarily seem to care about preserving your culture. Our ancestors fought for their way of life to live the way they wanted. Fleeing to another country and claiming ignorance to their culture is not the way to do it. Not to mention claiming pride while running away
There was a news article on how an English family was split up after they took a wrong turn in Canada and ended up in the USA and were sent to these types of camps
Again I didn't say anything about punishment the crime carried, only that they were a crime. Ill say it one more time a misdemeanor is a crime. Now about the punishment, the one in question is up to 6 months in jail as you mentioned, so there is jail time involved.
“A line in the dirt” is a gross understatement for our unprotected borders. It’s the border at which our sovereignty as a nation begins. You are not agreeing to abide by our laws by crossing that border without consent. The ambiguity of whether someone will follow our laws is one of the greatest dangers. So now that you have committed what has been proven to be a “nontrivial” crime, you go to a detention center. That’s how it works, and that’s not a place for children. They shouldn’t be held in cages, but neither should they be kept with their parents that have committed a crime. It’s just a typical scenario whose mundanity has been flipped by politics; people are trying to search for something inhumane in something routine for political gain. It’s silly and pathetic. Welcome to the criminal justice system.
If their parents had committed something more serious like, idk, murder, child molesting or something, sure. But the fact that they crossed the border illegally shouldn't be used as evidence that they should not have the right to be with their children.
Daniel Lewis If most aren’t getting asylum, than most are simply using the asylum excuse to loop hole their way into the country. Obama didn’t make those cages for birds.
@@wv9mm trespassing and parking tickets are a different thing. Not to mention, if you get enough parking tickets, you get towed. You can't keep illegally parking and hope it all works out (even though that's been the case for quite a few years). While I can understand people wanting to look the other way on this issue, those being effect are raising their voices. California is the best example of this.
@@wv9mm Sure it can be solved... we just haven't solved because it was so solvable. Obama just wanted to give the next president a shot at "solving" it. Just like Bush Jr, and Clinton. Sooooo solvable....
wv9mm you said it yourself, the best we can do is mitigate it, and again, it’s something Trump is finally working on. The thing people are giving Trump the most shit over is the fact that he’s enforcing something Obama started. The sheer hypocrisy on this topic is so bad, it’s a wonder anything ever gets done on the country.
@@TheLocknload1 Um, yes. We could even call them juvenile detention centers. The juvenile justice system has been around since the 1800s. Women are also jailed separately from men.
The people in the DEA on average aren’t profiting from the drug war. The majority of law enforcement has merely been tricked into believing that prohibition is moral, while a few in power make the real big bucks
Jamie pull that American kid from the mother she broke the law.. oh wait we have been doing that for years! Where is the outrage for our citizens that this happens to.
@e-man Im implying that if you want to play charity with your country's resources and everyone's taxes, its pretty much your first in the line duty to load your own place with them and make sure they have a better life. So are you doing that? If not, why, and what makes you think that you can even risk opening your mouth about this topic?
I agree with you. But the facilities at which a kid is put at the border are disgusting, they should be better. Mr. Obama should have spent some more during his administration at building these facilities.
If I remember correctly, there’s a video of Bill Clinton on the same stance of immigration that Obama was talking about. In that same video, his supporters cheered and applauded him. As Joe and Dakota Meyer said, we’re a weird society.
When American citizens break the law. They get there children away. Are we going to let kids go to prison. They should be with them if there going to a customs office tho and are being deported. They should be together tho
2 reasons: They take them away because it's difficult to control everybody especially in overcrowded facilities and if kids and adults are togheter you can expect pedophiles doing weird shit there. Remember that highly secured prisons with adults only have rapes etc. so from not-so-highly-secured ICE facility you might expect more of that stuff so that's why they are separated. Besides... it's parents fault. If they go through dangerous journey to get illegally to richer country it's totally their fault if their children are taken away from them. They could do it legally and learn english and get legal job in better country so their kids will be safe but nope... Instead they do criminal acts so they are criminals and criminals are taken away from children.
Kids go to juvi all the time, we build walls around prisons and shoot on site people jumping them. But not illegals and walls are wrong at our border. Liberals are Soo stupid! There's no logic in their views or opinions. Only missed placed emotions
Few of these people need to be put in jail. It was Trump who chose to implement zero tolerance and lock up practically everyone with no need for that at all.
@@IAMACollectivist They're in jail due to flight risk. Also, the only way to release them and NOT have them immediately committing the crime they were arrested for in the first place is deportation, which they can do voluntarily whenever they want.
Once again Joe voices what should be common sense and all his right-leaning fans lose their shit. Stop pretending like this has ANYTHING to do with politics. Criticize Joe all you want, at least he considers both sides of the fence before formulating his opinions. The rest of you are unhinged.
@الزنجي الرمال so he's mentally retarded because why? His opinion is different than yours? Fuck you, make a channel and start talking about shit. Something tells me you're the challenged one
I think it’s funny how many leftists Joe Rogan fans have commented that joe only has right wing fans. As a moderate observer, you all kinda sound pathetic. How about making a point rather than just pointing fingers.
The problem with common sense is that it's the common man's sense. These are large issues requiring more then just your common mind and you ignore this fact to everyone's peril. Here's some common sense for you. "How do we cure disease?" ... "We inject you with the disease when you don't have it." ... "You're insane, No." Should we have followed that line of common sense who knows where we'd be.
Love you and your show Joe....that being said, if a US citizen were to break the law & picked up by law enforcement, any children of the offender would be separated from that parent no?
Depends on the offense. We're talking about a first-time, nonviolent misdemeanor, that was never handled in this way in the 180 years of there being a US-Mexico border. The overwhelming majority of US children with an incarcerated parent live at home with their mothers. I could go on and on about how those people at the border were treated far worse than US citizens in a comparable situation.
This is a bad statement to go on with. The goal is Plain and Simple, to not separate the kids from the parents, it's not a battle of statistics , of like Oh, these kids don't have homes, so it is okay for these other half of kids to not have homes too. Even with that being said, we have A LOT of programs here for U.S citizens (kids) that get aid if without a parent. Most of the time, the kid will have a relative to stay with, like an uncle aunt, etc. We have foster care systems, that take in children without permanent homes. Rarely would you see a kid not taken care of, if any at all. If you see videos of illegal immigrant kids being cared for, its almost a prison like system, they sleep in a room with ten other kids, and they eat cafeteria food.
SJ Greer The kids were told that if they didn't obey, they'd never see their families again. They were forbidden from hugging each other or holding hands, and when the Red Cross arrived they found the kids hugging their own knees. Kids were beaten and out in solitary. Some were forcibly drugged to keep them docile. Some were molested. But go on about how it's "summer camp conditions"
Joe is completely clueless on this issue. I protested Obama and my father protested George W. Most people laughed at the inhumanity. I'm sure Joe did as well since I've never heard him speak on the decades long problem of open borders
Randy Savage Cause the law said they couldn't put kids in jail. Now they changed it so if the parent is in jail for illegally crossing the border you CAN put THEIR kids in jail. Happy now?
Mike Tython why do we need to put five year olds in jail... What does no one realize how insane that sounds. most of these people are just seeking Asylum which is completely legal under the Constitution
Most people just don't want to live in their shithole countries and that's apparently everybody not in the states nowadays. And everybodies excuse, which is quickly becoming a nom excuse. People need to learn to defend and care for the land the grew up in. Not to invade foreign lands because things got hard.
@@wv9mm It's not arbitrary. Each child was ripped from their homes and family and smuggled illegally to the USA. Keeping children with those endangering them is a bad idea even if they're related.
idk i think he made great points, and duncan is one of my favorite guests. at the end when hes talking about the obama video, he literally blew my mind, not about that spcific video cuz i dont care lol. but about the fact that they could attempt to rewrite history by reposting old clips with altered dialog dubbed over it
That's because under Obama, the separations only occurred under specific situations. With Trump, it doesn't matter the situation. If you come over illegally, you WILL be separated from your children. No exceptions.
just my 2 cents here. if an American citizen has a child with him or her and gets arrested, the child is separated from the parent on the spot. I am not agreeing with it but merely pointing out the consistency.
@Trustin Lewis Maybe because they have other family they go to during the duration of time their parents are in jail. Or, in some instance, the child are in danger from their own parents. The situation is quite hard to understand without content. But even if they were separated from their parents due to a crime their parents committed, they still have the option to see them or call them. They are never far away. But the situation of immigrants does not reflect this. No visitation, no phone calls, not even a letter. None of that is available because the systems misplaced them all. Parents don't know where their kids are, kids don't know where their parents are, and kids are in a strange situation. The situation of American kids being separated from their parents does not compare.
@Trustin Lewis I'm not proposing anything. Just answering your questions. Why don't you propose something more humane for the illegals? Oh wait, taking kids away because orphanages are better then where they were is the better solution, right? Wow, and somehow being a liberal sounds less insulting by the second. Maybe you should take a moment to reflect your words a little long. Unless you don't mind being indecent, then by all means, continue on.
@Trustin Lewis No, that is good enough. Nothing more needs to be done at the moment, thank you. That new thing that we do? Where we separated parents from their children? That was too much. I wouldn't mind a new way to stop illegal immigrants from coming in to the country, but make sure that its humane and sound.
@Trustin Lewis Right. Under Obama. And Congress, with all their anti Obama rhetoric, didn't catch wind of it until Trump forced it even further. The Republicans, with all their dislikes on their former president, didn't even bother to bring this to light to show the people what a real sham he was. Right, of course. Either you are fishing for more excuses, or you are becoming desperate to not find common ground on a more cohesive solution for this immigration problem. Either way, I need sleep and I have wasted enough time and energy to try and reason with you. Good Night. 😚
This idea of illegal immigration is relatively new. It used to be a non-criminal offense that would not involve arrest. It was made "illegal" specifically so that Republicans could refer to these folks as criminals and put them through what they are going through today.
Dylan Kratz Only reason for the government to step in and take your child away is if you’re some crackhead who cant take care of or puts their child in danger continuously. Government doesn’t juts take them for no reason and if the government decides to take your children away then you must of committed a serious crime. It really is just benefits the children and keep them away from irresponsible parents but some people dont see it that way.
I wish I could afford a fucking (Decent, not run down shit hole and in a good neighborhood) house without having to find 3 jobs all paying a god damned salary and going horribly into debt.
People who blame other people for the problems they have it means you're weak. Read some self motivation books or listen to some speakers. Geez what a bunch of cry babies. Grow up! Pussies blame other ethic groups? That's how losers are made.
Its not imaginary , if it was imaginary then itd only be illegal to cross in your imagination, YOU FUCKING IDIOT WOW ...see how easy that was n you probably think youre smart for that ridiculous comment dont you ? LMFAO
The real problem is there are known sex traffickers bringing children to sell into sex slavery, so its either separate kids from their parents until you can prove they are really their children or lock up sex traffickers with their victims until you can prove they are not really their children. This is one of the many problem with undocumented people coming into the country without identification.
@@StealthPilotWarcury By that logic the laws against doing crack is an imaginary rule. Even animals have territories that they protect and defend, it's been that way for millions of years before we even evolved. How is that imaginary? Also see my comment above to see why this is actually the only rational way of handling the situation.
I was brought here when I 2 and a half if they sent me back I'm dead lol 😂 keep inspiring joe you the best shout out from Georgia. Born in mexico raised in Georgia.
He'll never seen this but I have proof I got here on the 4th of july. When we were about to cross I was crying and the coyote told me that if I stay quiet he will buy me a bag of Lay's when we got to the other side and when my parents told me I stay quiet and when we got to the other side I got the bag of Lay's. 😂
If a us citizen breaks the law, what happens? They are arrested for let's say trespassing. Are they separated from their kids? The answer is yes. Why should someone who isn't even a citizen have more rights here than a citizen? Makes perfect sense right?
Ricky Kendrick that’s a shit analogy...not even the to the same degree of separation or level of detainment or time that could possibly be served if any at all by someone who trespassed given your example they are not comparable . There are no guidelines other than the sixth amendment set out which aren’t being followed
On the right side I don’t know anyone who says, ripping kids from parents-they shouldn’t have broken the law. It’s about trafficking and adults faking documentation or no documentation proving parental rights.
Johny sins I dislike, because Joe is assuming that ppl who bring kids over the are there biological parents.. Adults and kids that dont have proper official documentation are separated from each other. It's better to be safe then sorry. Doing DNA tests.
Joe doesn’t watch the TV show Cops. Every episode has parents being separated from their children for breaking the law. Where is his outrage about that?
They're not in internment camps or jails. 1000's of them flooding over the border. You want to house them in your house? If not STFU! Blame their parents. And Yeah if we had the same problem on the border with Canada yeah the same thing would happen. But their isn't that problem on the border with Canada! Joe should be ashamed of himself for trying to make it about race. It's got nothing to do with race. It's about coming here the right way. All these people need to do to not get charged with a crime and get separated is go to a port of entry and ask for asylum instead of breaking the law and sneaking in. Then they won't be charged with a crime and won't lose their kids. Simple.
Also id rather be housed as those kids are than be sent to a state run foster home ... you ever been to one of those?? Didnt think so so STFU ,thats where REAL inhumane abuses are happening and not 1 of you democrats have ever said jack shit about those children have you ??
Study what liberals do to gain power and wealth for themselves, but We ARE FORGOTTEN. Conservatives like to protect themselves, too. That's why the only independent in high office, Trump, has no support in D.C. because he's not part of the"club".
We're up shit creek collectively as a country, but this is absolutely no way in hell that there will be another civil war. Its literally impossible from a logistical point of view.
@@hyypersonic man theres so much stuff thats going on that seems like if people sat down and just thought it through for a minute we would be in such a better place but for some reason people can't handle that
Joe, love you man, but think about it, if a US citizen breaks a law, they get separated from their kids, you cant be in favor of giving a non citizen better treatment than a US citizen? Say it aint so JOE!
Hugh Janus crossing the border illegally IS a crime. Sorry to ruin your little fantasy. Fleeing poverty does not grant you the right to cross illegally. You bleeding heart liberals are fucking mongs.
Separating families and putting kids in kiddy jail is fine, as long as you convince yourself that people born on the other side of a line are less than human. That's why people call them "illegals" it's a dehumanizing term that has a subconscious effect on the weak minded , making it easier to separate ourselves from them morally, this is a dog whistle tactic, a fog horn would be calling them "animals" like our current leader.
The issue with children being separated is pretty simple, actually: There are a number of people sending their children over the border, but aren't coming themselves. They literally pay someone else - sometimes an uncle, sometimes just some offering the service - to bring their children up here. To make matters even better, these people usually claim, "I'm their father/mother." This puts the US government in the dubious position of trying to find out just _who_ these kids are and who _their_ parents are. I mean yes, it's bad, but we're literally trying our best to make the best of a bad situation. Some of these 'couriers' aren't good people, and will set these kids up with modern slavery to gangs. So yeah, some kids are getting separated and not always correctly. That's the issue you face when people with no ID or with ID that you can't rely on. Seriously, what is the alternative?
Don't forget human trafficking is also a huge problem and part of the reason why we separate children from parents. I dont like that we have to do but I find myself asking the same question you did. What is the alternative? I cant stand it when people just shout that something needs to be changed but offer no solution to the problem.
@@El.Matamoros. Do you know how many of them end up being trafficked and forced into prostitution and other terrible things? You'd rather we just sit back and let that happen? Is that less 'cruel'?
@@insrtcowjoke You watch to much tv you can say the Same about everybody If you want kids in New York are also forced into prostitution and such the vast majority aren't y'all love to do that pick bad situations and use it as a excuse to be cruel and justify yourselfs.
@@insrtcowjoke I'd rather the immigration pathway was so that people didn't have to risk everything just to come here and be treated as second class citizens by racist,that's the less cruel option.
Ceasar Nunez and the law was changed years ago to require the kids kept with the parents which creates a situation in which either the children are detained with the parents to uphold the law or they are released with the adults who would be given a free pass on breaking our immigration laws.
People should focus on fixing the immigration system by helping people come legally while trying to make it faster and more accessible to go through the process. The problem is how you come in. No one gets a pass, we are a nation of rules. That being said, stop allowing illegal immigration and push for more legal immigration
Push for neither. Why provide care for foreigners, who's ancestors contributed nothing to the nation, when your countrymen starve in the thousands on the streets?
@@ramonlopez5557how? If I illegally went into Mexico I'd be arrested and put in a Mexican prison. go to any other country on the planet and cross a border illegally and see what happens. every country has laws and rules and the fact that people like you believe that the ones in america don't apply is ridiculous. you guys are the type of people to get mad about a white women from America going to another country and acting as if she owns it but you're completely ok with people coming into our home and fucking things up. I get why these people want to come over here. I get it. my brother in law was illegal but it's not about racism or bigotry. we can't even properly take care of the citizens we have now but we are gonna take care of citizens from another country? it don't make sense.
"I don't care if they broke the law. You don't take parents and kids and separate them." But that's literally what we do everytime someone breaks the law in this country. If you are arrested, you will be separated from your kids.
Gabriel Moreno Haha, pointing out hypocrisy in the latest hysteria is now "right wing radio talking points" Could you at least make it a little less obvious that, as someone who's clearly a Mexican liberal, you're coming at this from a "feelings over facts" perspective?
The difference between an a American breaking the law is that his kids aren't sent to a jail as well. The kids are left with the mom or another relative. We used to deport families together so at least the kids are with family. This family separation is just a huge middle finger and it doesn't make fiscal sense as well. This is just an example of how immoral this administration is.
That's not what we do everyyime someone breaks the law in this country. Shut the fuck up and sit down you mindless drone. I'm sick of you brainwashed drones trying to convince others of the nonsense your corporate masters have taught you. Billionares like the Koch Brothers own you dumb fucks. White fear has always been weaponized by the rich to control you dumb fucks.
It's horrible to do things to children, look at this article snarkypenguin.wordpress.com/2018/06/13/a-gulag-for-children/ Oh wait, those are 2014 Obama pictures Hmmm You didnt care about immigrant kids back in Obama's Admin It was OK for Obama to do this, but when Trump does the same thing... He is a Evil Nazi... Bwaaaahaaa, your Trump Derangement Syndrome CONFIRMED
@Arwyn not by ice by other immigrants That's why we shouldn't have open borders just saying And more funding btw Democrats aren't helping at all But while everyone is calling trump racist etc he just won the wall won the next election and stopped almost all asylum seekers
@Anthony Vega But they’re still flocking to this country. Does that make sense to you? We don’t just go harm people for the hell of it. Open your eyes man.
@@kevinbeazy sir ...not just that ..but the gangs that were created here instead of sending to central America they should just kill every one of them ..is like letting a killer go loose ..central was more peaceful..untill gangs and dirty government sigh by the u.s.a governs there ..is like blaming China for jobs when is corporate company sending jobs over there save million and billions...
It is not illegal to seek asylum under international law, point one. Point two the refugee convention refers to illegal manner of entry only to stipulate that such entry is not grounds for punishment. Point three therefore it is false equivalence to equate people seeking asylum with actual criminals as justifying the separation of families. A child cannot follow a criminal into jail, but a person seeking asylum has by definition not committed a crime under international or US law - it is at worst a civil violation which the refugee convention (that the US is signatory to) stipulates must not be punished.
Dude the problem is we don't confront these politicians in public anymore, if anything we were more critical of our leaders in the past than the present! We used to have more access to them in the past also they are becoming more and more sheltered from the public. They have been sheltered from the public so much so that they have lost the ability to understand the needs of our people.
Ummm when citizens break the law they get separated from their kids when they go to jail. Are they supposed to let children go to jail with citizens? Or does Joe think illegal immigrants deserve to get treated differently than citizens?
Mr407Mike Get a speeding ticket and don't pay for it you go to jail. Then your kids get taken away. Pretty simple. But I'm a drama queen for pointing it out. Obviously you can't have a civil discussion without calling someone a tool. Get out of your feelings and be a man. Children act that way.
Mr407Mike Where are you getting your information, CNN? Crossing the border illegaly is a misdemeanor, punishable up to 6 months in jail. www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325
ahhhhh 2018, when all we had to worry about was a civil war
idk if this aged well for a month in 2020 :P
What civil war ? The fuck
@Literally Hitler i thought u were dead
More prevalent today
17k subscribers without any video challenge Nah man he’s chillin in Brazil with big booty binches
I love how Joe always has his guest’s back when they admit to something illegal.
Is it really illegal to burn currency?
@@hastur3201 yes
@@NamelessKing1597 WTF? Why? Is it like serious crime? Federal or smth?
@@hastur3201 it is federal, but I don't know what the punishment is. The Federal reserve needs to know how many dollars are in circulation so that they can include supply when determining the value of a dollar. It's difficult to do that when people are destroying them.
@@hastur3201 I see your name is in cyrillic script, where are you from? I assume it's a Slavic country.
Joe Rogan you're invited to the carne asada my friend
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@@CykelSierra It is asada. 🤦♂️
Shut up
Take a shot for every time Duncan Trussel says, "tendency” or "like”
I'm hammered
@@t.o.mcconnell4001 I’m dead
My husband knows someone called Frank who he's obsessed with, he never stops referring to him everytime he thinks he's right about something. He says "quite frankley" constantly...ugh its like he measures things by its frankness.
Joe says something slightly Left leaning and the dislikes soar.
That’s exactly part of his point, it isn’t even about left or right, separating babies from their mothers is just wrong. Morally wrong. There’s no humanity there.
And taking a side on this is stupid.
Is that why the dislikes are so high? Because he said it's wrong to steal and cage children? WTF!
Harry Ortiz it’s wrong but they’re not even separating them lol just deport em both
Clueless Lawdamercy Ruthless Institutionalizing children and tell them they are unwanted, and cheer how you were the reason why they are orphans ... Right or wrong, I don’t see anything positive coming from this.
@@harryo82
I thinks using your kid as a leverage and a means to an end is much sicker. So what, deport them both, or find that kid a normal family?
The guy with the beard has a voice that doesn't fit with his face at all..
If you imagine him without a beard it does
@@NamelessKing1597Yeah but I refuse to go around imagining facial hair options before judging the compatibility of one's voice with their faces...
Apart from that I don't agree with your comment.
@@NordicWalter why are you such a dick? He was making an observation just like you, kid.
@@NordicWalter you sound intolerable
😂😂😄
That guy never stopped taking LSD 😂😂😂
he has not, and is very open about it.
@@michaelmccaffery2684 in this vid he said he didn't
Children are separated from the adult jail to protect kids
@MaskedCrusader Part Deux Yeah cheif it happening because how are we gonna pay for that?
That was the Obama policy. Trump is doing this even to people who haven’t committed crimes
Rayne SG a.k.a. inkyrayne so you presume all entering the country are trafficking kids? Why not do that with all adults you see with kids? That’s essentially what Trump is doing.
@MaskedCrusader Part Deux wtf is holland?
MaskedCrusader Part Deux we don’t care that much kid
Duncan sounds like Steve-o if he never did drugs
And the funny part is this guy sounds like he took a lot of drugs
I thought steve o was talking until i actually looked at the video
I never noticed until you said something. Now I can’t stop noticing when he talks
Sounds like T J Miller
He says in this very video that he did lsd at 16 lol
You can't put children in jails with adults when you don't even know who they are .
There are better ways though...fact is kids shouldnt be in cages. Not to mention, there are still children that have not been reunited with their deported parents.
Ivan Susović does kids end up in cages in concentration camps ! So you have adults in jail and their kids in jail but separated !
@@hectorvaz1402 google Manjača and tell me that is what is going on US border ?
That’s what is going on ! There!
Concentration camps for children and adults... also, asking for asylum is not illegal, so no laws were broken to go to jail! This is trumps administration way of stoping legal immigration by people who are not white... trump and all his followers are racist and afraid to own that title
hector vazquez asylum speakers make themselves known and come through the ports of entry your just one of the sheep bleeting very loudly your clueless there are no concentration camps in America and to say that belittles the atrocities that actually occurred during the holocaust your disgusting and a moron if someone illegally sneaks into the country they should be immediately deported it is unfair for the thousands of people waiting for legal clearance into American idk how people like you stay so clueless and utter such stupidity without being called out
Don't agree, don't break up families send em all back across the border together...
That's how the Native Americans feel about white people
@@itsbritneytwitch2774 well the native Americans weren't strong enough to win.
@@tylerallgeier3746 that's cool and all but I didn't remember asking you anything.
@@itsbritneytwitch2774 that's the thing about free will, I can say anything I want.
@@itsbritneytwitch2774 Funny I didn't see anyone asking you for anything either
So when US citizens get arrested for illegal activity we dont get our kids taken from us? Where the hell do you live?
Creston Covington they commented on that as well. When talking about someone getting arrested for growing pot, their kids would be in foster care and the parent would rot in jail. They’re with you
Ummm... Joe.... American Citizens get separated from their childeren when they break the law... but it is completely immoral to do that when non citizens break the law? I don't think you have thought this through...
We don't put their kids in prison when the parents commit a crime.
Funny how you left the part out about their kids not ending up in prison with their parents. I don't think you have thought this through.
Joe Has thought this through and he's made a decision to be an anti-american lying scumbag to appease his financial masters.
Ummm this entire fight is about how kids are being kept in prisons. They are literally putting kids in cages.
WasatchMan he really needs to look into it
I'm pretty sure that criminals in the US are separated from their children when jailed. Unless it has become fashionable to send the kids to jail and serve the same sentence as their parents.
I was screaming this while watching, thank you!
Yep! And for crimes like theft under, which I would say are equivalent to crossing the boarder illegally. The truth is they made the decision, they knew the consequences and it sucks that is has to happen but what is the alternative? Keep the kids in the cells with the parents? They broke the law, they have to bare the consequences. We can't just let everyone into the country, all that is going to happen is the country will turn into another 3rd world country. We already know what happens! Look at Germany and Sweden... This isn't some unknown experiment we need to run in the USA or Canada to find out whether it will work or not, we already know it doesn't.
@Grinder Man I'd do some looking into that. A good chunk of Europe is being overrun by immigrants that aren't supposed to be there.
@Grinder Man either you are lying or blind. Come and live in the hoods for awhile where we are impacted by this
@Grinder Man 25
Americans families are separated everyday. Why cant we separate immigrant families?
@nihilismful when a family comes through a legal port of entry they are not separated. However if they illegally cross the border they are committing a crime and are separated because the laws were written to do so.
@nihilismful we separate american families because we do not jail an entire family for the crimes of one of its members.
Joe Rogan, “And we wouldn’t be doing that to Canadians.” Sure, Joe. Try crossing the Canadian border with a child with no documentation. Shit gets real.
Lol think half of everyone reacted before finishing the video.
Real fast .....
Definitely not gonna be getting a room together either
Especially in the same numbers coming through southern border.
Caleb Solis it’s not nonsense
Canadian border patrol are even worse somewhat. They mean business!
I feel flattered as a Canadian, thank you Joe.
Right!?
Yeah. I’m a Canadian, but I’m black. Joe thinks my son has blonde hair and blue eyes.
kek
@@leay4 don't like Canada?
Wait since when do Asian descendants have blonde hair and blue eyes???
Most people calling for a civil war hasn’t studied history. More accurately, the history of civil conflicts in our own country and the death toll involved.
Contrasting The Void let them fight, let the idiots kill each other off
@@PissDrunxVato That's not the issue, the death toll includes collateral damage
@@PissDrunxVato And you along with it Dewey. What do you think a civil war is? 2 groups duking it out in an arena while you watch?
The arena will be your home you imbecile.
@@nonusbusinissus5632 I was about to say the same thing. Also, if you don't pick a side, a side will pick you. Its a damned if you do, damned if you don't deal.
@Saki Maro you don't know what a civil war is do you? What the words mean?
The line isnt imaginary Joe, it's a border for our country, and all countries have borders and none of them want massive illegal entry. Every country has laws, they all enforce their laws. Why is our country or people considered bad when we want the laws we have established followed?
Duncan “tendency” Trussel
This tendency he is talking about is why we are supposed to have small local government. And our federal government is supposed to be way smaller.
but it can’t be smaller because we are too overpopulated
@@publicplans5696 Well It must be broken into smaller countries so the people are closer to the power.
Public Plans And we want other people to do everything for us. We got what we asked for.
Public Plans That’s what the states were meant for. Thus the 10th Amendment was passed.
@@publicplans5696 Has nothing to do with population
If I get sent to prison can my kids come with?
This land was stolen from the natives. Just letting your little brain know that.
Only if you teach them early.
@S. - Sure it is! Parent commits a crime, kids get separated from parent. That is how the law works. It's fine that people don't like that aspect of the law but what isn't fine is blaming Trump for a law that predates his presidency and calling him a racist for it. You can thank the liberal media for socially engineering brain dead people to buy into these BS ideas.
@@xXxAmadeuzxXx this land was CONQUERED, not stolen.
@@xXxAmadeuzxXx Conquered by the Conquistadors, who these migrants are majority descended from. No one's pure and innocent here if you're talking about old history.
FYI, the separation of children from parents from their kids has been going on for years, and yes even during the Obama administration. The main reason is they cannot put a child with an adult while in confinement. If we did then you would be hearing cases about children getting abused while under US care? As with the majority of these issues the solution isn't simple and an effective solution hasn't been done with any previous administration! Our politicians have never really tried to fix it and never will!
The scary part is that their very parents see them as passports and I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen where they just hand over their infant to strangers who need a kid to go to border to be let in. Another instance was an 11 year old girl who border patrol asked where she was going then asked when is the last time you saw your parents? 11 years she answers. Since my birth. Doesn’t sound right.
A simple solution would be to just drive them back over the border and hand the whole family over to Mexican authorities.
Joe us talking out of his ass about that. I noticed he didn’t offer the solution to parents and kids coming across the border. Should we just pay for their room at the Hilton while they await their court date?
If I rob a bank what happens? I get separated from my kids. Come on Joe wake up!
12:37 Joe coming in clutch to save his bro out
Right 😂 I thought I was the only that caught what Joe was doing there lol
You guys are dumb if you think the gov is gonna go after this guy for lighting a dollar bill when he was 18.
I think joe was being safe and sorta doin it jokingly but also serious. Like yeah let’s just make 100% sure no one catches shit and cover it up. You really think it’s that big a deal?
Modern children's services separates parents from kids for much less..
They took my daughter on unproven lies, almost 2 years later, no court verdict yet,.thousands of dollars fighting lies, missed my daughters first 2 birthdays....
Its sick... Its just sick and sad, pay support, have a full time job, no prior charges. No mental illness, no substance abuse.
Ex is on large doses of anti depression or anti anxiety meds...
This I what I get for loving someone with a bit polar issues or whatever it is when they hit you and hate you then love you an hour later....
I just don't want to miss my daughters life, iv never sat on the coutch with her and watched a movie....
This me too shit is all bullshit, men are being attacked and descriminated against so much right now...
How does that make you feel?
Sweetchilliheat18 now imagine you had no money to fight it. If what you were accused of was at least a misdemeanor, without money to get out, you’d still be sitting in a jail cell right now, indefinitely.
youngskeletor He didn’t break the law though...
Don't drag your kid across a border illegally and they won't be separated from you while you wait for your court date. Amazing concept I know youngskeletor idiot
Holy shit dude, I'm sorry.
This should be a PSA for "dont stick your dick in crazy"
Law breakers are separated from their kids EVERY DAY, it's called prison. The divorce courts also take kids off parents that's the job, Child services also does.
Yeah they also go through due process and are given visitation, also divorce courts give shared custody, you know this, you're just being a contrarian asshole
Sad Johnny it’s fucked they should just deport the whole family if they’re illegal
I think immigrants should fix their problems at home rather than running away but still claiming pride for their homeland
@@user-zi9yo3dt5s That's a lot easier said and done, and a lot of immigrants who flee to the U.S. are doing it for the safety of their children
@@sadjohnny6120 I understand that completely but it seems like fighting for you way of life has died out and turned to run away and not necessarily seem to care about preserving your culture. Our ancestors fought for their way of life to live the way they wanted. Fleeing to another country and claiming ignorance to their culture is not the way to do it. Not to mention claiming pride while running away
There was a news article on how an English family was split up after they took a wrong turn in Canada and ended up in the USA and were sent to these types of camps
LOL wtf as a Canadian I fully expect to have my kids taken away if I come to America and break the law, Jesus christ.
Hugh Janus, and you should know that a misdemeanor is a crime with some having a punishment of up to a year in jail.
So you did know that a misdemeanor was a crime, even though you said it wasn't?
Stevey Irwin thanks
So you're saying people entering through the port of entry seeking asylum are still getting jailed and separated
Again I didn't say anything about punishment the crime carried, only that they were a crime. Ill say it one more time a misdemeanor is a crime. Now about the punishment, the one in question is up to 6 months in jail as you mentioned, so there is jail time involved.
“A line in the dirt” is a gross understatement for our unprotected borders. It’s the border at which our sovereignty as a nation begins. You are not agreeing to abide by our laws by crossing that border without consent. The ambiguity of whether someone will follow our laws is one of the greatest dangers. So now that you have committed what has been proven to be a “nontrivial” crime, you go to a detention center. That’s how it works, and that’s not a place for children. They shouldn’t be held in cages, but neither should they be kept with their parents that have committed a crime. It’s just a typical scenario whose mundanity has been flipped by politics; people are trying to search for something inhumane in something routine for political gain. It’s silly and pathetic. Welcome to the criminal justice system.
@Gideon U because it's not illegal to seek asylum
@Gideon U calm down dude just a random fact
@Gideon U hey you added a random fact too. Awesome
If their parents had committed something more serious like, idk, murder, child molesting or something, sure. But the fact that they crossed the border illegally shouldn't be used as evidence that they should not have the right to be with their children.
Ok boomer
Joe is so spot on. Law enforcement is a game with cops scoring points. Its how to be noticed, get promoted etc.
With trashed IDs, we can't risk keeping children with human traffickers.
So how many children are separated from their criminal parents every day as US citizens and sent to foster homes
How many of those parent's only crime was trying to keep their family from being killed?
Daniel Lewis If most aren’t getting asylum, than most are simply using the asylum excuse to loop hole their way into the country. Obama didn’t make those cages for birds.
@@wv9mm trespassing and parking tickets are a different thing. Not to mention, if you get enough parking tickets, you get towed. You can't keep illegally parking and hope it all works out (even though that's been the case for quite a few years).
While I can understand people wanting to look the other way on this issue, those being effect are raising their voices. California is the best example of this.
@@wv9mm Sure it can be solved... we just haven't solved because it was so solvable. Obama just wanted to give the next president a shot at "solving" it. Just like Bush Jr, and Clinton. Sooooo solvable....
wv9mm you said it yourself, the best we can do is mitigate it, and again, it’s something Trump is finally working on. The thing people are giving Trump the most shit over is the fact that he’s enforcing something Obama started.
The sheer hypocrisy on this topic is so bad, it’s a wonder anything ever gets done on the country.
Joe "send kids to jail with their parents" Rogan.
Mosquito E I know right? God, he was just way foul on that one...
So send kids all alone to a different jail ?
@@TheLocknload1 Um, yes. We could even call them juvenile detention centers. The juvenile justice system has been around since the 1800s. Women are also jailed separately from men.
@@neatomosque or we can send them all back and not cover the cost of housing them
Gottem
joe “you would never do that, thats illegal”.
also joe “Takes Illegal substances all the time.
I think he was being sarcastic
Hugh Quigley His dmt consumption is a victimless crime. Mind ya bizz
All the time? You dont do psychedelics “all the time” and plus weed is legal there
Isn't weed legal in California tho?
It’s illegal to kill yourself. Because it’s destruction of government property.
The people in the DEA on average aren’t profiting from the drug war. The majority of law enforcement has merely been tricked into believing that prohibition is moral, while a few in power make the real big bucks
Jamie pull that American kid from the mother she broke the law.. oh wait we have been doing that for years! Where is the outrage for our citizens that this happens to.
Aqua Green ORAganics great false equivalence there
@e-man Remind me. How many rants are staying at your place?
@e-man Im implying that if you want to play charity with your country's resources and everyone's taxes, its pretty much your first in the line duty to load your own place with them and make sure they have a better life.
So are you doing that?
If not, why, and what makes you think that you can even risk opening your mouth about this topic?
I agree with you. But the facilities at which a kid is put at the border are disgusting, they should be better.
Mr. Obama should have spent some more during his administration at building these facilities.
@e-man Okay then allow all the Indians that are dying of starvation. We have a billion people who are ready to enter America.
If I remember correctly, there’s a video of Bill Clinton on the same stance of immigration that Obama was talking about. In that same video, his supporters cheered and applauded him. As Joe and Dakota Meyer said, we’re a weird society.
Yeah let the kids be with their parents in the adult's holding area, let's see what happens.
Stu H what’s gna happen?
@@YungassPadawan same thing that happens when you put minors in adult prison. Which is not something we do.
Children dont do too well in a eat or be eaten environment specially when surrounded by adults
When American citizens break the law. They get there children away. Are we going to let kids go to prison. They should be with them if there going to a customs office tho and are being deported. They should be together tho
2 reasons: They take them away because it's difficult to control everybody especially in overcrowded facilities and if kids and adults are togheter you can expect pedophiles doing weird shit there.
Remember that highly secured prisons with adults only have rapes etc. so from not-so-highly-secured ICE facility you might expect more of that stuff so that's why they are separated.
Besides... it's parents fault. If they go through dangerous journey to get illegally to richer country it's totally their fault if their children are taken away from them. They could do it legally and learn english and get legal job in better country so their kids will be safe but nope... Instead they do criminal acts so they are criminals and criminals are taken away from children.
TheLindeN why do latinos have the lowest naturalization rate.?
@@MegaMapper yeah it's their fault for crossing that imaginary line into your cults territory lol
Exactly.
@@benjamingrezik373 there's a fence there it's not imaginary
Nobody gets to take their kids to jail with them, Joe
Kids go to juvi all the time, we build walls around prisons and shoot on site people jumping them. But not illegals and walls are wrong at our border. Liberals are Soo stupid! There's no logic in their views or opinions. Only missed placed emotions
Few of these people need to be put in jail. It was Trump who chose to implement zero tolerance and lock up practically everyone with no need for that at all.
@@IAMACollectivist They're in jail due to flight risk. Also, the only way to release them and NOT have them immediately committing the crime they were arrested for in the first place is deportation, which they can do voluntarily whenever they want.
@@Imakebootysclap Yeah- juvi. Is that an adult jail they go to for crimes their parents forced them to commit?
Was actually obama in 2012 who decided it was best to separate children from parents.
Once again Joe voices what should be common sense and all his right-leaning fans lose their shit. Stop pretending like this has ANYTHING to do with politics. Criticize Joe all you want, at least he considers both sides of the fence before formulating his opinions. The rest of you are unhinged.
@الزنجي الرمال so he's mentally retarded because why? His opinion is different than yours? Fuck you, make a channel and start talking about shit. Something tells me you're the challenged one
I think it’s funny how many leftists Joe Rogan fans have commented that joe only has right wing fans. As a moderate observer, you all kinda sound pathetic. How about making a point rather than just pointing fingers.
@Mr. Terrorist You're absolutely correct. I rarely find truly moderate people here.
The problem with common sense is that it's the common man's sense. These are large issues requiring more then just your common mind and you ignore this fact to everyone's peril.
Here's some common sense for you. "How do we cure disease?" ... "We inject you with the disease when you don't have it." ... "You're insane, No." Should we have followed that line of common sense who knows where we'd be.
Mighty Mouse: yes, clearly you are superior to both
What about every parent that is put in jail/prison and separated from their child?
They have visitation
This guest is remarkably well spoken.
Love you and your show Joe....that being said, if a US citizen were to break the law & picked up by law enforcement, any children of the offender would be separated from that parent no?
Willard Winkle shut up, Willard.
Willard Winkle to be fair it’s Americans fault there own government screws them.
Depends on the offense. We're talking about a first-time, nonviolent misdemeanor, that was never handled in this way in the 180 years of there being a US-Mexico border. The overwhelming majority of US children with an incarcerated parent live at home with their mothers. I could go on and on about how those people at the border were treated far worse than US citizens in a comparable situation.
This is a bad statement to go on with. The goal is Plain and Simple, to not separate the kids from the parents, it's not a battle of statistics , of like Oh, these kids don't have homes, so it is okay for these other half of kids to not have homes too. Even with that being said, we have A LOT of programs here for U.S citizens (kids) that get aid if without a parent. Most of the time, the kid will have a relative to stay with, like an uncle aunt, etc. We have foster care systems, that take in children without permanent homes. Rarely would you see a kid not taken care of, if any at all. If you see videos of illegal immigrant kids being cared for, its almost a prison like system, they sleep in a room with ten other kids, and they eat cafeteria food.
SJ Greer The kids were told that if they didn't obey, they'd never see their families again. They were forbidden from hugging each other or holding hands, and when the Red Cross arrived they found the kids hugging their own knees. Kids were beaten and out in solitary. Some were forcibly drugged to keep them docile. Some were molested.
But go on about how it's "summer camp conditions"
I thought this said "Joe Rogan Rants About Imagination"
close enough
for reals
Same haha
dyslexia affects millions
It does
“Old glory” is the American flag Joe Rogan not currency.
The reason why the audio and video wasn’t matching up was because of how many times the video was re uploaded and compressed.
Joe is completely clueless on this issue. I protested Obama and my father protested George W. Most people laughed at the inhumanity. I'm sure Joe did as well since I've never heard him speak on the decades long problem of open borders
Xantana Xanderman okay so give me a clue why the fuck should we not separate families??? I don't think you understand how border security works!
Xantana Xanderman build the wall
Randy Savage Cause the law said they couldn't put kids in jail. Now they changed it so if the parent is in jail for illegally crossing the border you CAN put THEIR kids in jail. Happy now?
Mike Tython why do we need to put five year olds in jail... What does no one realize how insane that sounds. most of these people are just seeking Asylum which is completely legal under the Constitution
Most people just don't want to live in their shithole countries and that's apparently everybody not in the states nowadays. And everybodies excuse, which is quickly becoming a nom excuse. People need to learn to defend and care for the land the grew up in. Not to invade foreign lands because things got hard.
I'd rather children be in protective custody than with child smugglers.
They weren't child smugglers, they were real parents. You were lied to.
romulan227 how do know
Jeremiah Watson because almost no one at the time was charged with a trafficking related offense.
@@wv9mm It's not arbitrary. Each child was ripped from their homes and family and smuggled illegally to the USA. Keeping children with those endangering them is a bad idea even if they're related.
@@wv9mm If they were born in the USA they wouldn't be here illegally. Of course they were ripped from their homes. Stop shielding child trafficking.
Dude with the beard just rambling
idk i think he made great points, and duncan is one of my favorite guests. at the end when hes talking about the obama video, he literally blew my mind, not about that spcific video cuz i dont care lol. but about the fact that they could attempt to rewrite history by reposting old clips with altered dialog dubbed over it
pretty nice rambling
Joe helps people to be legally correct, so they won't end up in shit for talking bluntly and truthfully !! #Respect
Fuck that give me raw who the fuck wants a censor
They called Obama the Deporter and chief and yet we didn't hear about the shit we hear now
Lexx S The separation of children from family was originated under his administration and no, we didn’t hear the same thing from the Left.
He mostly deported criminals
@Carmine DAuria-Gupta So does Trump. Why do you think they call it "illegal" immigration?
It was mostly cause Obama was hush about while trump is out in the open.
That's because under Obama, the separations only occurred under specific situations. With Trump, it doesn't matter the situation. If you come over illegally, you WILL be separated from your children. No exceptions.
just my 2 cents here. if an American citizen has a child with him or her and gets arrested, the child is separated from the parent on the spot.
I am not agreeing with it but merely pointing out the consistency.
@Trustin Lewis Maybe because they have other family they go to during the duration of time their parents are in jail. Or, in some instance, the child are in danger from their own parents. The situation is quite hard to understand without content. But even if they were separated from their parents due to a crime their parents committed, they still have the option to see them or call them. They are never far away.
But the situation of immigrants does not reflect this. No visitation, no phone calls, not even a letter. None of that is available because the systems misplaced them all. Parents don't know where their kids are, kids don't know where their parents are, and kids are in a strange situation. The situation of American kids being separated from their parents does not compare.
@Trustin Lewis I'm not proposing anything. Just answering your questions. Why don't you propose something more humane for the illegals? Oh wait, taking kids away because orphanages are better then where they were is the better solution, right? Wow, and somehow being a liberal sounds less insulting by the second. Maybe you should take a moment to reflect your words a little long. Unless you don't mind being indecent, then by all means, continue on.
@Trustin Lewis No, that is good enough. Nothing more needs to be done at the moment, thank you. That new thing that we do? Where we separated parents from their children? That was too much. I wouldn't mind a new way to stop illegal immigrants from coming in to the country, but make sure that its humane and sound.
@Trustin Lewis Right. Under Obama. And Congress, with all their anti Obama rhetoric, didn't catch wind of it until Trump forced it even further. The Republicans, with all their dislikes on their former president, didn't even bother to bring this to light to show the people what a real sham he was. Right, of course.
Either you are fishing for more excuses, or you are becoming desperate to not find common ground on a more cohesive solution for this immigration problem. Either way, I need sleep and I have wasted enough time and energy to try and reason with you. Good Night. 😚
Im in the middle of this argument and i love this connection that i didnt see
Commit a crime with your child in the car. You WILL be separated from your child. Fucking ridiculous.
The name of that Clip should be "Tendency! There is a TENDENCY there."
When my parents did something illegal, and was locked up, I was separated from them...sooo..yeah.
what was your parents crime?
Robae Ruber smuggling immigrants.
Irony.
This idea of illegal immigration is relatively new. It used to be a non-criminal offense that would not involve arrest. It was made "illegal" specifically so that Republicans could refer to these folks as criminals and put them through what they are going through today.
Ok sure, but what about all the legal immigrants that are having their children taken away from them?
@@mutantmonkey100 sorry you can't just ship your voting base across the border.
Okay, let's stop charging parents with crimes so we don't have to "separate kids from their children".
What about when US civilians break the law and are separated from their children?
We don't matter....only the ones who snuck their ass here so they didn't have to go the legal way....they matter....to the press
Dylan Kratz Only reason for the government to step in and take your child away is if you’re some crackhead who cant take care of or puts their child in danger continuously. Government doesn’t juts take them for no reason and if the government decides to take your children away then you must of committed a serious crime. It really is just benefits the children and keep them away from irresponsible parents but some people dont see it that way.
Who else is watching this while in Quarantine. 😱
I also think kids shouldn't be separated from their parents, infact I think they would be put together... and sent right back to Mexico
King Kunta implying they're Mexican
Don't be upset lol. Its usually mexicans crossing the border illegaly. Thats just the the truth.
King Kunta have u bitchs know central America
No its not. Look at immigration rates from central american countries vs. mexico.
That won’t happen cause private prisons want their money and slave labor
"Affordable housing are in crisis".
Let invite every illegal immigrants with open arm, heck let give them houses and free healthcare
And let them vote to skew the numbers for the libtards that promise a Utopia
I wish I could afford a fucking (Decent, not run down shit hole and in a good neighborhood) house without having to find 3 jobs all paying a god damned salary and going horribly into debt.
I blame the white business owners, they hired the illegals and started this whole problem. Am I wrong?
16bitFishing why does it have to be white?
People who blame other people for the problems they have it means you're weak. Read some self motivation books or listen to some speakers. Geez what a bunch of cry babies. Grow up! Pussies blame other ethic groups? That's how losers are made.
What do we do with citizens when they break the law? Put them in jail and put the kids in foster homes, we separate them.
Minute 3:40 Joe: “i can answer that for you, they definitely haven’t....” lol. Of course not! Fantastic!!
"imaginary line in the dirt". Without borders you cant have any control, what a sad statement.
An imaginary line is a border you fucking idiot. Wow
Its not imaginary , if it was imaginary then itd only be illegal to cross in your imagination, YOU FUCKING IDIOT WOW ...see how easy that was n you probably think youre smart for that ridiculous comment dont you ? LMFAO
ThunderDomeBoxingTalk holy shit is this bait? Damn lmao
i Mipples moron
I think you took his statement too literally.
He definitely set that cash on fire
We’d do it to Canadians if they were trafficking children.
Exaxctly!
Man... I be havin the biggest bro-crush on J. Rogan.
He be spittin nothin but facts!!
My only disagreement is on the child separation thing when an American breaks the law he’s separated from his kids in prison
Liberal mind set, I don't want to be separated from my kids if I go to jail.
there crossing a imaginary line not doing fucking crack
The real problem is there are known sex traffickers bringing children to sell into sex slavery, so its either separate kids from their parents until you can prove they are really their children or lock up sex traffickers with their victims until you can prove they are not really their children. This is one of the many problem with undocumented people coming into the country without identification.
@@StealthPilotWarcury By that logic the laws against doing crack is an imaginary rule. Even animals have territories that they protect and defend, it's been that way for millions of years before we even evolved. How is that imaginary? Also see my comment above to see why this is actually the only rational way of handling the situation.
michael vigil we are the same species?? I’m done
I smoked weed in high school in a small town. I got caught an was incarcerated for 6 months. Away from my parents.
Me too! They sent me to boot camp in Milledgeville Georgia, then to a group home.... My parents were far far away
@@nohedidnt9402 sorry guys, i'm from GA and feel your pain. many cities have decriminalized recently, ironically
sorry to hear that brother. hopefully we get weed legalized soon, because that’s ridiculous.
The fuck, 6 months for that?
Yeah GA fucking sucks on Mary Jane laws but atleast we got CBD stuff now and we are slowly getting decriminalized
Joe Rogan:....
His Guest: T E N D E N C Y
I was brought here when I 2 and a half if they sent me back I'm dead lol 😂 keep inspiring joe you the best shout out from Georgia. Born in mexico raised in Georgia.
He'll never seen this but I have proof I got here on the 4th of july. When we were about to cross I was crying and the coyote told me that if I stay quiet he will buy me a bag of Lay's when we got to the other side and when my parents told me I stay quiet and when we got to the other side I got the bag of Lay's. 😂
We ain't the problem bro.
If a us citizen breaks the law, what happens? They are arrested for let's say trespassing. Are they separated from their kids? The answer is yes. Why should someone who isn't even a citizen have more rights here than a citizen?
Makes perfect sense right?
Ricky Kendrick that’s a shit analogy...not even the to the same degree of separation or level of detainment or time that could possibly be served if any at all by someone who trespassed given your example they are not comparable . There are no guidelines other than the sixth amendment set out which aren’t being followed
@@moaazkhalil1028 you're a dumbass.
I feel his almost melt down right now. It's almost like his words aren't matching what his thoughts were saying. Joe is really patient
On the right side I don’t know anyone who says, ripping kids from parents-they shouldn’t have broken the law. It’s about trafficking and adults faking documentation or no documentation proving parental rights.
If a mother from the US commits a crime and is arrested, will she be separated from her child?
Why so many dislikes? Are people not listening to the arguments?
Johny sins we are, we just disagree.
usually people only want to spout off without listening
Johny sins they found out they weren't part of the team .
Triggered Trumptards
Johny sins I dislike, because Joe is assuming that ppl who bring kids over the are there biological parents..
Adults and kids that dont have proper official documentation are separated from each other.
It's better to be safe then sorry. Doing DNA tests.
Joe doesn’t watch the TV show Cops. Every episode has parents being separated from their children for breaking the law. Where is his outrage about that?
They don't lock the kids up in an internment camp though.
Maybe because they are in their home country where it's easy to send them to a relative?
They're not in internment camps or jails. 1000's of them flooding over the border. You want to house them in your house? If not STFU! Blame their parents. And Yeah if we had the same problem on the border with Canada yeah the same thing would happen. But their isn't that problem on the border with Canada! Joe should be ashamed of himself for trying to make it about race. It's got nothing to do with race. It's about coming here the right way. All these people need to do to not get charged with a crime and get separated is go to a port of entry and ask for asylum instead of breaking the law and sneaking in. Then they won't be charged with a crime and won't lose their kids. Simple.
Also id rather be housed as those kids are than be sent to a state run foster home ... you ever been to one of those?? Didnt think so so STFU ,thats where REAL inhumane abuses are happening and not 1 of you democrats have ever said jack shit about those children have you ??
I'm ok with kids being taken from home with parents who are drug addicts.
And here we are. The world has gotten worse.
Study what liberals do to gain power and wealth for themselves, but We ARE FORGOTTEN. Conservatives like to protect themselves, too. That's why the only independent in high office, Trump, has no support in D.C. because he's not part of the"club".
"We are close to a civil war" yeah I'm gonna be surprised if it doesn't happen at this point
We're up shit creek collectively as a country, but this is absolutely no way in hell that there will be another civil war. Its literally impossible from a logistical point of view.
@@hyypersonic man theres so much stuff thats going on that seems like if people sat down and just thought it through for a minute we would be in such a better place but for some reason people can't handle that
@@connormcgannon4918 i agree with ya
We all got to sing that song war what is it good for
@J.marq703 And the right can’t stand the fact that a democrat beat Trump but things aren’t that bad
Joe, love you man, but think about it, if a US citizen breaks a law, they get separated from their kids, you cant be in favor of giving a non citizen better treatment than a US citizen? Say it aint so JOE!
When kindness continue, people think this is their right. Look at Europe.
Hugh Janus crossing the border illegally IS a crime. Sorry to ruin your little fantasy.
Fleeing poverty does not grant you the right to cross illegally.
You bleeding heart liberals are fucking mongs.
Hugh Janus isnt that a crime though? Any links/sources to somewhere that state that it isnt?
You know you’re dumb when your identity is rooted in facial hair.
Separating families and putting kids in kiddy jail is fine, as long as you convince yourself that people born on the other side of a line are less than human. That's why people call them "illegals" it's a dehumanizing term that has a subconscious effect on the weak minded , making it easier to separate ourselves from them morally, this is a dog whistle tactic, a fog horn would be calling them "animals" like our current leader.
The issue with children being separated is pretty simple, actually:
There are a number of people sending their children over the border, but aren't coming themselves. They literally pay someone else - sometimes an uncle, sometimes just some offering the service - to bring their children up here. To make matters even better, these people usually claim, "I'm their father/mother."
This puts the US government in the dubious position of trying to find out just _who_ these kids are and who _their_ parents are. I mean yes, it's bad, but we're literally trying our best to make the best of a bad situation. Some of these 'couriers' aren't good people, and will set these kids up with modern slavery to gangs.
So yeah, some kids are getting separated and not always correctly. That's the issue you face when people with no ID or with ID that you can't rely on.
Seriously, what is the alternative?
Don't forget human trafficking is also a huge problem and part of the reason why we separate children from parents. I dont like that we have to do but I find myself asking the same question you did. What is the alternative? I cant stand it when people just shout that something needs to be changed but offer no solution to the problem.
It shouldn't even be a option y'all have never even met any of these kids y'all are just cruel.
@@El.Matamoros. Do you know how many of them end up being trafficked and forced into prostitution and other terrible things? You'd rather we just sit back and let that happen? Is that less 'cruel'?
@@insrtcowjoke You watch to much tv you can say the Same about everybody If you want kids in New York are also forced into prostitution and such the vast majority aren't y'all love to do that pick bad situations and use it as a excuse to be cruel and justify yourselfs.
@@insrtcowjoke I'd rather the immigration pathway was so that people didn't have to risk everything just to come here and be treated as second class citizens by racist,that's the less cruel option.
When parents break the law as citizens many times they’re separated from parents.
Totally different situation.
If my neighbors broke the law and went to jail their kids would be in foster care at least temporarily. Why would non-citizens have more rights?
brandoncrawford1982 there’s a difference between foster care and cages.
Ceasar Nunez and the law was changed years ago to require the kids kept with the parents which creates a situation in which either the children are detained with the parents to uphold the law or they are released with the adults who would be given a free pass on breaking our immigration laws.
T E N D E N C I E S
People should focus on fixing the immigration system by helping people come legally while trying to make it faster and more accessible to go through the process. The problem is how you come in. No one gets a pass, we are a nation of rules. That being said, stop allowing illegal immigration and push for more legal immigration
Push for neither. Why provide care for foreigners, who's ancestors contributed nothing to the nation, when your countrymen starve in the thousands on the streets?
@@mzs5454 legit. We're full
You guys are so funny
Like spoiled little kids who don't want to share they're brainwashed by right wing media.
@@ramonlopez5557how? If I illegally went into Mexico I'd be arrested and put in a Mexican prison. go to any other country on the planet and cross a border illegally and see what happens. every country has laws and rules and the fact that people like you believe that the ones in america don't apply is ridiculous. you guys are the type of people to get mad about a white women from America going to another country and acting as if she owns it but you're completely ok with people coming into our home and fucking things up. I get why these people want to come over here. I get it. my brother in law was illegal but it's not about racism or bigotry. we can't even properly take care of the citizens we have now but we are gonna take care of citizens from another country? it don't make sense.
Don't separate families send them all back lol
But parents are separated from their kids when they go to jail/prison here in in the US right?
Exactly, that's like a woman selling drugs with her kid in the car. It's happens here in the US but it's not a problem
"I don't care if they broke the law. You don't take parents and kids and separate them."
But that's literally what we do everytime someone breaks the law in this country. If you are arrested, you will be separated from your kids.
oldbenkenobi the right wing radio arguments are terrible
Gabriel Moreno Haha, pointing out hypocrisy in the latest hysteria is now "right wing radio talking points"
Could you at least make it a little less obvious that, as someone who's clearly a Mexican liberal, you're coming at this from a "feelings over facts" perspective?
The difference between an a American breaking the law is that his kids aren't sent to a jail as well. The kids are left with the mom or another relative. We used to deport families together so at least the kids are with family. This family separation is just a huge middle finger and it doesn't make fiscal sense as well. This is just an example of how immoral this administration is.
That's not what we do everyyime someone breaks the law in this country. Shut the fuck up and sit down you mindless drone. I'm sick of you brainwashed drones trying to convince others of the nonsense your corporate masters have taught you. Billionares like the Koch Brothers own you dumb fucks. White fear has always been weaponized by the rich to control you dumb fucks.
It's horrible to do things to children, look at this article
snarkypenguin.wordpress.com/2018/06/13/a-gulag-for-children/
Oh wait, those are 2014 Obama pictures
Hmmm
You didnt care about immigrant kids back in Obama's Admin
It was OK for Obama to do this, but when Trump does the same thing... He is a Evil Nazi...
Bwaaaahaaa, your Trump Derangement Syndrome CONFIRMED
They don't know that the kids belong to those parents
But they also seperate Americans from parents if they break the law
@Arwyn not by ice by other immigrants
That's why we shouldn't have open borders just saying
And more funding btw Democrats aren't helping at all
But while everyone is calling trump racist etc he just won the wall won the next election and stopped almost all asylum seekers
Illegal coup what do you expect...american doing harm to hundreds of millions around the world..
@Anthony Vega But they’re still flocking to this country. Does that make sense to you? We don’t just go harm people for the hell of it. Open your eyes man.
@@kevinbeazy sir ...not just that ..but the gangs that were created here instead of sending to central America they should just kill every one of them ..is like letting a killer go loose ..central was more peaceful..untill gangs and dirty government sigh by the u.s.a governs there ..is like blaming China for jobs when is corporate company sending jobs over there save million and billions...
It is not illegal to seek asylum under international law, point one. Point two the refugee convention refers to illegal manner of entry only to stipulate that such entry is not grounds for punishment. Point three therefore it is false equivalence to equate people seeking asylum with actual criminals as justifying the separation of families. A child cannot follow a criminal into jail, but a person seeking asylum has by definition not committed a crime under international or US law - it is at worst a civil violation which the refugee convention (that the US is signatory to) stipulates must not be punished.
numba 10 exactly and some just don't want to understand this.
Dude the problem is we don't confront these politicians in public anymore, if anything we were more critical of our leaders in the past than the present! We used to have more access to them in the past also they are becoming more and more sheltered from the public. They have been sheltered from the public so much so that they have lost the ability to understand the needs of our people.
why isn’t anyone talking about this aspect
*jamie pull that video up*
Damn Joe, you should have been my lawyer when I got sent up. After all, I was separated from the kids!
enter legally
Yeah- I wonder why we can't take children to adult jail. Weird
@@earthstrong7855 no
@@cavemanlovesmoke4394 ya why have laws in the first place, why not just plunge us all into the abyss and despair of anarchy.
Your kids should have been imprisoned with you and the other criminals!
Duncan Trussell's appearance always throws me off. All those times I've listened to him, I pictured him different in my head.
Take a shot everytime this guy says "tendency" and see how that works out for ya.
Ummm when citizens break the law they get separated from their kids when they go to jail. Are they supposed to let children go to jail with citizens? Or does Joe think illegal immigrants deserve to get treated differently than citizens?
Mr407Mike Get a speeding ticket and don't pay for it you go to jail. Then your kids get taken away. Pretty simple. But I'm a drama queen for pointing it out. Obviously you can't have a civil discussion without calling someone a tool. Get out of your feelings and be a man. Children act that way.
Mr407Mike hahahahaha ok Mr. Enlightened
Mr407Mike I'm going go to Mexico and work. Oh wait I'll get sent back here. Goddamn those racist Mexicans.
Mr407Mike lmao if you think illegal immigration and the problems it presents to the host country is on the same level as a speeding ticket
Mr407Mike Where are you getting your information, CNN? Crossing the border illegaly is a misdemeanor, punishable up to 6 months in jail.
www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325
Well California will lose to Texas on the gun ownership thing.
I love joe, hes the guy who you call when your girls ask where you been.
YES JOE, YES......PREACH IT!!!!!