Joe Rogan and Gad Saad talk about progressives focusing on Islamamphobia, Islamic immigration, and moderate Islam. Taken from Joe Rogan Experience #985.
I married a Muslim, thinking that he was a liberal. Once I got pregnant,ooh boy did things change! All the while, he was cheating on me with the type of girls he'd fiercely criticise. Wish I listened to everyone who warned me- this guy fulfilled all the stereotypes! Divorcing him now- wish me luck.
You didn't marry a Muslim stop lying to yourself, did he pray five times a day? Did he fast a month every year? Did he drink alcohol or go partying? You married someone who calls himself muslim but isn't one, not a single practicing Muslim would dare to cheat on his wife because that is one of the biggest sins in Islam, WHAT really happened is you married some westernized Arab who barely has anything to do with Islam and now you are unloading all your anger because you had bad judgement in choosing a man
Because they wanted to make it out alive. Christians are sweeties and they can slap them around. Islam throws gays off buildings, but for some reason the Democratic Party loves Muslims and gays.
@Anirudh how did you know scholar didn't writing a research paper? I guess you have wrong understood of our scholar. You also should listen to scholar for your understanding?
@Anirudh r u kidding me? If u wanna know something about science would u prefer an answer by a science student or a professor? The best answer will always be given by the experts. And the normal ppl follow these scholars as well so it becomes clear with whom these topics can be best discussed with!
I'm Muslim and since when is it against my religion to wear shoes at home? I mean many eastern cultures remove their shoes but it's not some religious rule lmao
Imagine if they threw tacs and literal bullshit on the ground and forced the dude not to wear shoes by suing him...it wasn’t even their house it was his and he was showing it to them like wtf. Can tell the judge was biased asf.
@@TheMokkii en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massutmaning Essentially a doctoral thesis on the mass immigrations effect on Sweden. Wait until it has been translated into English and then read it. Funny enough it is written by an immigrant. I just wish more people read it in Sweden.
@@mohamadfarman9019 wait wait... you have problems with immigrants? Then talk to your corporate overlords, they are the ones filling immigration quotas to keep the waves down. Funny tho people will talk only about the immigrant families that leave all their history behind to come in hopes of a better future
@@TheMokkii that was so passionate and emotional, you must have made a good argument! I'm crying in awe of the powerful sequence of words you have strung together. Wow. Kudos to you friend
Gad fled an Islamic country when his life was threatened directly because of islam. He's clearly VERY well informed on the religion itself. Yet when he gets to Canada the woke brigade think they understand islam better than him and can label him a bigot simply for sharing his experience. I had no idea he was Jewish until now I always thought he was an atheist, not that it matters it just took me by surprise.
Joe I have been fighting ISIS in iraq I am a proud Kurd from Kurdistan, it would be great to have a good talk with you one day there is so much to be said, I have many stories. I'm an MMA fan and have been watching you for a long time but I can tell that there is so much you should know, majority of people in Kurdistan are Muslim however we have never had any religious issues with any of our Non muslim people we have been fighting to protect everyone here ( yezidi Kurds, christians and muslims) and we don't care what their religion is we stand for whats right, I'm not a religious person but in general people are open in my culture compare to other region in Middle east but I feel like there is so much you need to know, because people's perspective is very different than reality if you are not close and see it for yourself. I have been fighting against the evil ISIS along with all the Kurdish fighters to try protect our people your people and everyone else that lives in our region and all the refugees who have fled to Kurdish region in iraq. I have watched some of your podcasts I do think you generalize a bit but its not your fault because you have not been there and if I was in your place I might have been the same hearing so much crazy shit. I think any extreme religious mentality is bad for people regardless of their religion. middle east clearly has lots of work to do but despite that there are many good people here. i'm one of those people that is completely against any religious role in any government. religion should be a harmless private practice for anyone regardless of believes. some of the stuff i might say that might be a little difficult to implement in some countries because their government have used wrong religious tactics to keep them dumb and making them obey what they wanna do with them that combined with bad cultural practices in some arab nations in the middle eat. I don't know if you are ever are interested to come here but if you do let me know, you will be safe trust me and we can go shoot some guns haha but if I do visit the U.S one day would love to have a talk or even on the show, shoot all the questions you want would love to answer them.
Kurdistan had many Jews, many many Jews at one point. Beginning about 300 years ago the empires murdered them out, the creation of Israel gave the governments a propaganda excuse to kill them completely, by 1951 there were zero hence he says "yazidi kurds christians and muslims". That said, I fully support Kurdish independence, and theyre better than any other Muslim group of the mideast today.
If most Kurds are not extremists and have a "live and let live" mentality, then that proves actually moderate Islam could indeed "coexist". Please show the world how it's done! How do you feel about reformers like Majid Nawaz? Are you okay with Muslims who have left the faith like Aain Hirsi Ali? Check out a guy by the name of Faisal Saeed Al Mutar on Facebook! He's pretty cool... saw an interview with him on The Rubin Report. Thanks for your post... gives hope!
My Uncle is an immgration Lawyer, And he literally had a case come his way in which the state of california was allowing Islamic faith based Immgrants to bring in Child brides of the age of 13 years old. Its rather disturbing.
It's fine to promote this idea that all religions are the same. Until you work with the dude who wont't speak to you because you're woman. He needed a man to work as a mediator with females( i was lower form than ameba) . That happened to me in my country, yet that particular Muslim didn't find nothing disturbing in the fact that half population of my country are females who pay for his family benefits through taxes.
In Islam, we say that interaction between man and woman should only occur when in marriage. Naturally, men are weak and succumb to their desires much more so than women. As much as a man ensure he behaves upright, his thoughts are in constant battle between, a teaching of Islam to "lowering your gaze" and lustful ideas. And so we say women are not objects for lustful intentions. Islam elevates women in that regard as they are not the embodiment of sex symbols. We say women and men are different and fulfill different roles in society. Women are educators, entrepreneurs, warriors and so much more, but most importantly, Mothers - The foundation to every society. Something which liberal values are trying to eradicate, even by the feminist movement. It's funny enough though that the secular west still has issues with all of these. Your media certainly fails to show progression on this front. But yet, your western propogandists chose to show you a perspective of Islam that sees woman oppressed and backwards. So I urge you to see past you liberal and secular indoctrination, and open your mind up to other world views.
@Edward Reeves I certainly don't find atheism or secularism to be the answer to the societal issues we are experiencing as a global community. What are the solutions?
@@carddash. Again, why shoul'd I adapt to your religion or philosophy while you live in my country and enjoying perks of my society? Why shoul'd I have one rest break during my job, while my college muslim have two (20 min. extra for praying). I don't mind, but I also want 20 min. extra break otherwise is discriminatory against me. And don't lecture me about muslims because I grew up with them, I work with them, we respect each others, I am invited to their celebrations (Bairam) as they are to mine (Christmas). Oh, wait, they don' follow the teachings of Wahhabis, so they are not real muslims, right?And do you expect Saudi Arabia, for example, to acommodate me if I go to a visit?
@@marinamaras4067 I take it you are referring to the States right?. So it's up to discussion as to who's country it is for whomever to practice based on it's dirty colonial history. I mean, we see the natives being pushed further behind and struggling to cope in modern America, if it is that they do not fall subject to liberal ideologies while they trying to keep amend a damaged community and lost culture. And had it been a Muslim society, business would have had to halt during the 5 X 20 min prayer times (or rather 3 since the standard business hours includes Dhur, Asr and perhaps Magrib) depending on the operational hours. Beautiful isn't it that regardless of the intensity of the everyday hustle and bustle, it is obligatory to find solace and calm within your working hours, unlike modern secular society that ensure the carbon copy of workers grind and grind to the point of misery. I'm sure whether you believe in God or not, this would be appreciated. Then this brings me to Saudi Arabia and the Wahhabi factions. The fact the you can't visit that country is a problem they have to deal with and answer for. It's laws does not involve the entirety of Muslim thought, and certainly is not coded into Islamic tradition. This is why many Muslims reject the stance of Wahhabism. Had it been that you lived in an Islamic society, perhaps, let's say under an Islamic state, and not the secular Muslim countries we see today, then surely you would have been afforded residence, acceptance and tolerance as long as you are law abiding, as would any nation require from it's citizens. Just because you know a few Muslims does not mean you get the whole picture, especially when these Muslims fall prey to the encompassing liberal values of the west that is as we can see today so grossly imposed on global society. So again, I urge you to see pass these misconceptions about Islam that is being rammed down your throat by western media.
@@carddash. Again, you didn't answerved my question:"Why shoul'd I adapt to your religion/philosophy/way of life in my country?"Then, you are bashing secular countries (neutral regarding religions) which are the most evolved societies/economies. What's the problem? You stay on your side of the world and don't try to change my country and we're all happy! And for the record. :" I'm not from USA, my nation never participated in slavery, like every other nation we have a lot be ashamed for trough our history. It doesn't makes us better or worse." Just like you! The point is, you don't live in Western society if you can't adapt, like I won't live in your society if I can't adapt.
It's because it's Islam 🤦♂️ he's literally saying this stuff and people back it up by attacking him and not actually looking and listening to what he's actually saying!
Some of it are probably from upper class muslims which sadly like to look down on poor non muslims especially jews and christians because there has been a history of conflict. If you look at places with Islam that are not arab like the Baltic countries you will see how they literally meme the ethnic cleanings of Bosniaks or muslim ethnic Bosnians it will blow your mind if you did not know and just the general history and modern culture.
@@shavaizsheikh2767 yah not just any apostates dumbass. Theres a difference between someone starting to eat bacon vs someone who backstabs muslims. The death punishment of apostacy applies to the latter not the former. Similar to how treason is also a crime punishable by death in many countries.
Well what happened in Canada is the sign of ignorance about islam... that family were clearly bullshitters, ask any muslim and he'll laugh at their poor excuse, they won't be able to pull of such a trick on a muslim landlord. We take off shoes in mosques for practical reasons: we pray on the carpet so we can have shoes then put our foreheads in a contaminated place, that's a health hasard.
One of the rare times I feel joe isn't listening actually the only time. The world isn't going to take mushrooms but as gad was saying if you're leaving this place be open to other people's choices and live your own life happy and accepting
Freedom of speech allows people to speak. It doesn’t mean there can’t be consequences for what they choose to say. The key word is always choice. You’re free to judge people, but what you CHOOSE to do with that choice can be reprimanded.
So you're going to negatively judge people for making the choice to have faith, seek spirituality, believe in something bigger than themselves, and believe that their actions have consequences in the eyes of their creator? Religion is also a part of peoples' upbringing, culture, and traditions. Its not some choice you make like picking which pants I want to wear today
I am based in London and I used to work as home career so I was going to meet this young Muslim fella for the first time at his home together with my manager and once we got to his address the guy's mum greet as at the door and I spontaneously give my hand to the lady which she shakeed back and the shift went off smoothly. After the shift my manager did tell me off saying you don't shake hands to Muslim lady. Bloody hell the lady did not complain and an European did.
Since when is Islam for the "down trodden". It gives rights to the afflicted but it doesn't mean Muslims are poor or handicapped. I'm making six figures and I'm Muslim. Islam is for everyone.
Everyone always wants to talk about the good, but why does your community not speak out against the radical element in your belief system. Anti gay, anti jew, anti west, anti freedom, responsible for the majority of all terrorism on earth today. Its always deflection and blame, maybe if people within your community stood up and condemned the extreme we would all find peace together. You do not need religion to be a good person nore to be clean or earn 6 figures.
@@kimmasek you don’t need Islam for this, but Islam is the root of this. Just like you don’t need Mather Luther king to not be racist right? But he is a symbol of it and seen an the one that started the anti racial campaign in America. If you support him you can’t be racist to people of color. Same thing with Islam, in times where people used to bury girls at birth just because they seemed as a liability Islam came and banned that, woman were sold as materialistic things and regarded as a trade value Islam came and banned that, and made woman more powerful. In times where Europeans used to take a dump in a bowl and then dump it from their windows Islam made people self clean themselves 5 times a day before prayer and showed people how to stay clean at all times. You don’t need Islam to be all that, but if you have Islam you have all that. That’s the difference.
@@murat7006 Yeh that is all great, but we live in the 21st century now with running water and toilets, we do not need hygienic insights from the 1st century. When I ask my Muslim friends about Islam- what is written in the Quran and what is allowed/not allowed, they are completely clueless about it and they always respond with, I have to ask my "Imam". They then proceed that Islam teaches them to wash themeselves 5 times a day like you just said. If the original text of the religion is so hateful that you cannot interpret it according to its ordinary meaning and different Imams interpret them differently, at what point do you just throw the book away and think for yourself. Well sorry, your not even throwing the book away, you are just not listening to some old guy who is apparently able to understand a written text better than you.
Minority who comes from an Islamic country here. Everything being said by Gad Saad is very very true, especially about it being a "supremacy-based religion". Yes that is very very true. Where I come from, it's being thrown into our faces on everything from the TV to schools. This is why I'm so pissed off by that Ben Affleck tantrum. He is extremely ignorant.
@@eaglezonly Its the issue with democracy. If you want your country to be a certain way, you have to have people who think the same way as you voting. Democrats are pro immigration, because they know most immigrants will vote Democrat. Population growth is the biggest cause of pollution, but environmentalist stay silent on immigration because its all really about power. The environment only matters when saving it has a socialist solution.
Hold the phone, so it's ok to FORCE Christians to make a cake for a gay wedding, but it's not ok to wear shoes into an apartment you own because someone who is Muslim rents from you?!
@@skyblue9991 to be fair both of them business transaction. But islam family didnt abide by the rules and stopped paying right. While the other they have right to refuse service since its a private business.
@@TheNugtorios19 The man got in trouble because of his ignorance. He entered their home without knowing what he was doing went against their religious beliefs... the Christian cake maker flat out discriminated against the customer. Had the landlord told them they had to leave his apartment because he didn't like their praying or religious rituals or something... then the two situations would be the same but as it stands... one is ignorance and one is discrimination.
Shady Makhoul I’m so sorry you had to go through that. I’m Muslim and I’m against Muslims who target nonMuslims. It makes me so sad to see nonMuslims suffer under Muslim rule.
Liyanna De Lioncourt it’s amazing to see Muslims recognizing the damage islam has done and say it out loud I really appreciate you....Christianity had it dark times back in the days but because of Christians who had the same mindset as you we managed to get that behind us, live in peace and accept all people i hope you and people like you will do the change we want to see in Muslims cause at my end there is no hate towards muslims but there is a big concern about Islam and what it teaches people.
Shady Makhoul Islam has been hijacked, I think it might have been different in its first couple of years but afterwards, all those Hadiths were pinned down 200-300 years later. I can’t take most of it seriously when it comes to how intolerant it is.
Liyanna De Lioncourt I’m not sure about if it was hijacked i never did a research on that but what you said about being your brother it’s really sweet of you and if this words or logic applied to the world we will be a very happy planet. Much respect bro
This Saad guy starts off on how he was oppressed and had to hide his religion in a Muslim country and how bad that is then suggest that the same should be done to Muslims who comes to non Muslim countries 🤔 I guess that's how he solves problems
No mate he’s saying we should not tolerate your intolerance, totally different. Since this podcast we have had teachers beheaded in France, teachers threatened in U.K. over “blasphemous” cartoons by Mslms... and just recently an MP stabbed to death in U.K. for objecting to halal barbarity in slaughterhouses.
What he said was, leave your old world religious / cultural baggage at the airport. Don’t land in Toronto with what you are running away from. Don’t import your values to a rational civilisation. Learn critical thinking. Here we can be free enough to not have to defend our selves. Show some humility, be grateful for your new country and say Thanks everyday.
This not about Islam, this happens in every religious minority.. such as on Muslims by Hindus in India... On Muslims by Jews in Palestine/Israel ... on Hindus by Muslims in Bangladesh .. etc.. No religion is different... all has radical part in their Textbook
@Mark Steven Probably not, I don't think he's scrutinized the Quran and Hadiths and understands the prayer and history behind it. But sure this guy knows more
@@wali5912 even normal Muslims aren't allowed to scrutinise the hadith and quran and get their own interpretation. This is because things can be misinterpreted and it leaves space for people to take things out of context to back their agenda. It is what extremists use to recruit young naive men. Similar to left wing media that like to cherry pick things that Jordan peterson and Ben shapiro say to make them look evil when, if you look at the context then what they say makes sense. The only people that are supposed to interpret the Quran and Hadith are muftis who have spent decades studying them and getting qualified. So when a normal Muslim has a question they're supposed to ask a mufti, not go directly to the source material in case they mess up the interpretation part. This is also why 99.999% of Muslims don't want to kill everyone else and take over. The ones that do are the ones that went directly to the source material and completely misunderstood it.
I completely agree! I dont have a problem with immigration however there is a price to pay because allot of people who immigrate bring their old life here and try and indoctrinate their beliefs on everyone else.
@@charliesvids if you want to look at it that way be my guest. When we came there was no country. No systems. Comparing us to Islam is invalid. We don't kill people over thier beliefs but yes the way our ancestors handled some things was not good.
The idea that they are escaping is wrong, they agree with the way to lead, but might not like the leadership or are just leaving because it seems nicer in Europa. The migrant crisis ex. was people from all over the world coming to europa because they saw an opportunity. The system is down, its time to go.. The little kid that washed up on shore was living in peace in Turkey, the farther was a human smuggler and set his family on a dangerous course for no other reason than to better their lives via the welfare systems in europa. He wasnt a refugee, he was an oppotunist.
@@codylee5466 Europe was colonized by the Romans they forced the pagans in Europe into Christian and in the process of colonizing, they probably killed some. The pagans then colonized other places and also killed people in the progress. If you don't accept to join Christianity you will be isoled from the community and eventually your kids through breading will become Christian. It's moronic to believe that Christianity reached that level of following without the use of violence.
As an ex-muslim (not 100% socially) that was so interesting discussion to hear. I lost my faith when I was 19. Btw guys have some hope coz I m observing in my generation (I m 30), that half of my friends has already realized that it's unscientific, illogical and total bs. we just can't express those publicly yet but discuss with one another all d tym
Which country do you live in? I'm tunisian and I'm observing the same trend. Most of my friends either lost their faith (Like myself) or are skeptical towards Islamic teachings and Islam in general.
@@mindblowingdiscussions2707 Yeah I agree. Even in countries like Iran and saudi arabia younger generations are beginning to question Islam. However, Muslims who grew up in Western countries are paradoxically becoming more religious, perhaps as a consequence of feeling unwelcomed by the surrounding culture and as a desperate attempt to forge an identity for themselves.
"Why should we tolerate this kind of stuff?" YEEES!!! EXACTLY!!! Thank you. Why? Also, I wish when Gad got asked about what's the solution for these Syrian refugees he said send them to the local neighboring Islamic countries that are really rich. Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, etc.
@@aladdin7387 You know that Filipinos, Pakistanis , Bengalis , Indians , Indonesians also got their riches stolen but they work and manufacture. You here are making all arabs look bad
The issue is that he didn’t talk about why many people escape their countries to move to the west, most muslims seek refuse in the west because of the mass destruction the USA has caused.
The same question goes back to why should anyone tolerate anything, why should white Americans tolerate the white Americans who are responsible for school shootings, terrorist attacks, violence, being involved in gangs? Should those white Americans be sent back to where there ancestors came from?
@@sarahhassan8559well why would you migrate to a country which has destroyed your country? It's obviously racist towards your people...Wouldn't you move to a country which is much more similar to your own country in culture and faith..
To Joe's final point, most people want to submit to authority. They don't want to have to think for themselves. This is why religion and especially Islam are so successful.
You have to make your own code and submit to that. If you make that code in a moral way, it will usually align with many religious rules... There are definitely exceptions though, which is why you gotta think your own code through and not tolerate the bullshit.
This is so true. It's a relief for somebody else to do all the thinking. Early exposure to such dominating ideologies also snuffs out the critical faculties of those raised in them, which in turn leads to adults who are unwilling and unable to discuss things rationally
actually Islam wants you to ask questiions. Even in the Quran, God challenges the anyone to to his words. “Say: ‘If all mankind and the jinn would come together to produce the like of this Quran, they could not produce its like even though they exerted all and their strength in aiding one another.’” (Quran 17:88) www.iqrasense.com/quran/allahs-challenge-in-the-quran-to-produce-work-similar-to-it.html
@@mikul3122 wait wait it makes somewhat sense what you are saying but you speak of code in a manner..... Are you an npc gone against the system hmm I know a group who can help their called the railroad let me know if you are in need of them
Joe, I admire your show because you bring on diverse perspectives and I thus learn a lot of new things from your show. As such, I think it'd be cool if you brought an actual Muslim on your show. You guys will disagree, but that's exactly what makes the show interesting.
I mean some people might but I think the majority of people wouldn't care. I don't hate Muslims I just think Islam is a very toxic ideology. And I feel the same about Christianity.
@@liammeaney4227 search up the wisdom behind the laws, you will be surprised how much you'd agree. Look up from mohammad hijab, he's an excellent orthodox intelligent speaker.
@@GodPilledZen I wouldn't be surprised if I did. I'm a fairly conservative person and Islam and a lot of Muslims coming out of the middle East are conservative people. It's not that they're inherently evil and destructive and want to subjugate the West. We're a lot more alike than we are different. Y'all make some bomb ass food And do genuinely have some great contributions to mankind. The Islamic golden age the fascinating thing to read about. The problem I have is when you take fundamentalism in established religion that was started hundreds of years ago and try to implement doctrines unchanged into the modern world. I'm not your enemy and you're not mine And the people on both sides that try to dictate it as such are large part of the problem. The biggest thing that I have coral with is liberty. I know I sound like the quintessential American but the biggest problem I have with Islam is the way that it tends to restrict the freedoms of people when the laws of the religion are made the laws of a nation and when you have people coming from these countries used to having their own homogeneous ideas propagated by the government Of course it's going to be culture shock when they see a gay man in a rainbow flag and a dildo hat walking down the street. And while I do sometimes take issue with a lot of these practices I'm a firm believer that I don't like drag queens around small kids having twerk offs I also have no right to use that as leverage to say these people should be silenced or taken out of the public eye. Debate and counterpoints or of course necessary but that goes for every side
27:20 Amazing - that’s exactly what CAA act in india was all about - the communities at most risk should be front of the line - all liberals in india made a hue and cry blocked Delhi roads for 3 months continuously - tensions peaking when trump visited in feb 2020 - leading to riots and lives of 56 peoples -
The way minorities are treated in Pakistan, Afghanistan (if any left), Bangladesh I'm glad they brought this rule. Hopefully it'll implemented in whole Nation.
Bro , I am an Indian Muslim and there were many of us who supported CAA. It's just that it became such a propaganda with all the stuff that "Modi will expel all muslims" that everyone got paranoid for the worse.
@@mohammadakramali1466 not an excuse saying it became propaganda. All of you knew the CAA act was necessary but none of the Muslims like you came forward. Even Javed Akhtar kind of atheist said oppose CAA. Shaheen bath was occupied for 4 months and only Covid and 50 lives with riots planning by taheer Husain with petrol bombs etc were needed for you to come and say lot of Muslims supported CAA. shame on you - for creating a scenario that led to inconvenience for shaheen Bach residents for 4 months and several cities in india were doing protests without knowing facts. And all of you people were silent when IsKcon and Durga mandaps were destroyed in Bangladesh - Sikhs were asked to convert in Afghanistan- not one shaheen bagh grandmas came out to protest.
from whom you are listening about Islam in this entire 33.5 minutes show ? From islamophobe Zionist who saw the cultural hatred of his motherland and associating this with Islam , really ? Who said you cannot criticized or raise question about Muslim believe. You all non Muslim should search your doubts about Islam in UA-cam. I argue with each and every sentence of this hypocrite. History is the proof that. Only under the Muslim empire Jewish have flourished and were given shelter from others.
Joe is way too nice about this for a good portion of this clip; almost like he didn't hear what Gad Saad has been saying, almost like he doesn't know about NYC, London, Spain, .... Each country that brings in immigrants MUST protect its own citizens MORE than the immigrants. Hey, I'm an immigrant, born elsewhere, having lived in the US for well over 50 years, so yippy-yay-ay and-all-that good shit for immigrants, but AGAIN: countries need to protect their own aggressively. We should not be expected to tolerate the intolerable (Saad said something like that).
There's a line that many say: I don't agree with what you say but I will fight for your right to say it. I almost totally agree with this sentiment. Either you're for free speech, thought and belief or not. When someone allies themselves with isil or other extreme groups then they can be banned for sure. You can be anti immigration all together, that's fair enough, stopping people from entering due to thought-crime is a slippery slope however.
They should take more immigrants and assimilate them. Educate the poor sods and make them give up on baseless faith provided by all religions. With that taint gone, they might be able to contribute more efficiently to the progression of humanity.
London is a city, not a country. There are are many other places in the UK other than London. Many of which are just as influenced by immigration. Birmingham, Leicester, Bradford for example. There are 60 million people in the UK, most of them live outside of London.
This conversation explains so well what I learned dating a Muslim man and have such a hard time explaining to people. He openly lied to me in the beginning about his beliefs, and it took over a year and a half for him to admit that he hated Jews as a child and was happy to learn about the holocaust, that he did not believe in having dogs inside the house, that he believed in every single letter of the Quran, that he believed gay people should be put to death, that I should be appreciative that he "respected" my religion by "allowing" me to continue to practice it, that he was allowed to question my religion but I could not question his, that criticism of Islam shouldn't be allowed, and that he had the right to tell me what to wear, where to go, and who to see. He told me he kept these things from me in the beginning so I could get "used to it." I could write a whole book about my experiences with this religion and seeing up-close a religion I used to defend, but the thing is that he is a relatively liberal Muslim, and this is how he felt, and he knew that to reveal all of that to me in the beginning would have meant we would not have had a relationship, so he lied. I could say he's just a bad Muslim, but is he? In Islam, the rules about treating others kindly and morally specifically only apply to other Muslims. I can't even begin to explain the hurt I felt realizing I was Najis to him and the people I had gotten to know and care about. But I'm racist for now being afraid of Islam once I've learned so much more about it? I can't even. And my story is so mild compared to others'. God help us.
Dont know if you searched things later or took his words for it.. I am a practicing muslim and i find it all compatible with rational commom ethics.. If you feel Like discussing it, i would
@@A.ayegou I'm sorry, but I can't. I don't want to get too much into a discussion about the specifics because it brings back bad memories for me, as the examples I listed above are only the tip of the iceberg. But yes, I did do my own research after he completely flipped the script on me, and I did not like most of what I saw. I can say that it doesn't necessarily make me believe that you are an unethical person as a practicing Muslim, as I do believe there exist Muslims who are very wonderful people, but my point is that how am I supposed to know a person's true feelings if they believe their religion permits them to lie to me?
@@peonypetal5405 i am sorry, i hope you get better soon and never have to live it again. Just to mention that i know exactly what you mean, because i have been around such people who used to be bad before and after they got religious. Only now they are more in peace doing harm to people..
This is so terrible 😥😥😥 I can complete understand how sad and experience this would have been. How sad, my heart sinks. And about you being Najis, I thought this concept was only present amongst my former Shia Muslim faith! Pathetic.
If you can "pick" and "choose" parts of a religion then you're not part of that religion I'm jewish, i choose to ignore the eating pork part. Then ur not jewish?? Not attacking but i just never understood that logic.
well it has to do more with the ideas of main sins in your religion which i don't of, it may be the idea that if you don't follow a single part of your religion however trivial or not important it maybe then you become no longer of that religion, his point however tackles the idea that the MAIN purpose of Islam that every muslim has to agree to is these ideas of Islamism & a political state run as a theocracy to be of legitimate purpose, as well as the expansions of Islam, & thus if you do not believe in them you become a non muslim, like how a christian isn't a christian if he doesn't believe in christ.
@@Random-om8rq but that's the problem tho they'll keep sugar coating religion as society grows and develops and it'll match it and then they'll be like LOOK! our religion is this and that and it's not oppressive when in reality most religions indoctrinate in one way or the other
@@BassamMusic you mean the islamists will sugar coat the religion ? they are already do that, that's in fact their purpose, if you however mean the reformers then their approach hasn't proven to be fruitful, simply because of the idea that they can't just lie about their own faith without facing backlash or be labelled as "loonies", this is why i don't think that a possible civil or democratic reform is possible in our countries, we just need a full on dictatorship like Ataturk's Turkey to be able to move on, we have great results in many places before that where autocratic & invasive rule (not seen anywhere else not even KSA or the UAE even though those states are autocratic) into religion to be able to move on, simple basis of this is the idea of the Arab spring that we still see it's failures today with recently Tunisia.
I am Muslim and I walk with my shoes in my house, my family house, my friends house and everywhere. In addition, we pray on grounds where people walked with their shoes on. Blame the greedy ignorant who chose to use Islam as an excuse to get paid $12000
Connor Tefft No, he won’t get it. You see, believers defend their faith no matter what. They hold it sacred. Way toooo much. Beliefs usually cloud your judgment. We just have to wait for another 200 years to get Islam in a state like current Christianity. They were 500 years late in the game.
I’ve lived In Indonesia in a town with all Muslims and traditional culture, they didn’t cover face, but covered hair. Some want to move to America, I keep telling them that it’s better in their land in terms of their religious beliefs
They could've just said Donald Trump's line...ban all Muslim immigration. Easy. And even then I think you can make a Constitutional case why Islam should be banned, along the same lines as Nazism and Communism.
At 33-33 perfect answer. I escaped from a communist country and did not expect to have Marxist schools and such. In fact I was well screened in those more sensible times.
The Liberals have nothing to sell anymore as most of people don't care about gays/race/feminism so they are importing voters from 3rd world countries to get elected.
You can choose one of two options: 1) Be compassionate to strangers from the 3rd world and let them in becoming the 3rd world down the line 2) Be compassionate to your countrymen / your future children and stop the flow of 3rd world immigration securing their future The very society people in the West enjoy will no longer exist if we keep importing Muslims and those from other different cultures. Especially the 3rd world. Europeans have more similar (often secular and Christian) values that allows them to integrate into society. So drawing a comparison to the founding of the US with 3rd world immigration is intellectually dishonest. Unity is strength. Not diversity.
Unity is strength but stagnates without diversity. In the same way the uniformity of communist cultures stagnates. Mass immigration is silly, but slow immigration is okay. (Or open the doors to the world but ask them to pay for themselves this is is where true prosperity comes from)
@@rlucas7374 What? Are you stupid? That doesn't take away from the fact these countries are getting invaded, bombed and killing off their leaders? Like yeah, these countries had horrible dictators, but at least they were within their own countries doing it to their own people. It's way worse off now than it was then and the cause are foreign countries. And now the foreign countries are making Muslims and Islam out to be the enemy. It's a little baffling. These Islamic terrorist organizations you see today were all originally funded by foreign governments and then left alone to grow and become what it is. You're so ignorant that you don't see that the government has CREATED this discourse. People like you that fear Islam are a product of what they want. They want to invade these Islamic countries, take their resources and at the same time keep getting their citizens (you) to hate Islam and hate their countries. You are a byproduct of all this. Now, I think these Islamic terrorists are wrong. I think they don't care about Islam either, I think they want money and power and they use Islam. Because if they really cared about Islam, they wouldn't be killing more Muslims than anyone else.
This is sooo double standards, I’m not a Muslim but hearing this didn’t make sense. Felt like he was kinda sad and angry with the religion himself but is clarifying it with fancy words.
Just goes to show that "tolerance," much like "diversity" or "inclusivity" is not always an inherently good thing, even though that's the narrative the Left always peddles. Tolerance (in most contexts that its used in political discourse) just means moral and cultural relativism. People often forget that a culture or civilization is defined just as much by what they DON'T tolerate as they are by what they tolerate.
Stupid people don't necessarily reflect the system they think they are describing. The U.S. has explicit values that must be accepted by all residents. The U.S. only strives for reasonable tolerance -- i.e. clearing away arbitrary differences like ethnicity in order to show people real values like material progress and civil cooperation to achieve real advancements to the quality of human life, like technological inventions, medicine, etc, as opposed to superstitious nonsense.
@@johannpopper1493 The U.S. has explicit values that *theoretically* should be accepted by all residents, but are not. They are not even universally accepted/shared among native born Americans. Among foreign people, they are usually only reluctantly accepted (if at all), and are constantly being tested and framed as a form of oppression. Inundate the country year after year with millions of people with totally different values, and the system collapses. That's the whole problem with importing culturally incompatible population groups. Cultural relativism is moral relativism. Open borders equals open values. Culture and values are linked, and culture is strongly correlated to ethnicity. Hence, ethnicity is NOT arbitrary at all when it comes to migration. It is only in the West that we pretend it doesn't matter for fear of social repercussions. Also, the idea of "reasonable" tolerance is subjective. My version is likely far different than yours.
@@SonoftheAllfather It's because the west is taking the wrong approach at integrating migrants, take a look at multicultural and multiethnic countries like Singapore are doing. It's one of the richest countries and the world and has the lowest crime rate in the world and no ghettos thanks to their public housing.
@@bayron45 Singapore is extremely authoritarian and to quell ethnic conflict, they mandated that English be spoken as a universal language. I have been to Singapore when I was in the military, and it's the only place I've ever been that has signs at the airports saying the penalty for drug smuggling is death. And I've been to some horrible countries. We shouldn't have to live in an authoritarian dictatorship just so we can be multicultural/multiethnic. They are arguably not even multicultural, only multiethnic. Multiethnic states can exist, but only if there is a dominant uncompromising monoculture that incoming groups willfully and even joyfully embrace. Multiculturalism doesn't work, and America's dominant ethnocultural majority is under outright hostile attack. Most new immigrants do not want or need to adapt, and more and more people and cultural institutions either do not expect them to adapt or outright discourage them from adapting. The obstacle of having a multiethnic state is that every ethnicity has their own culture that they instinctually desire to preserve. If aspects of that culture are incompatible with the host culture and adaptation is discouraged, it will cause serious problems. In earlier waves of immigration, the expectations were totally uncompromising and there was way more social and economic incentive for migrants to adapt. There was no welfare state. The schools and cultural institutions did not adapt to the migrants, the migrants adapted to them. And those migrants were far more similar (racially, culturally, religiously, etc.) than the newer groups that are immigrating now. Some groups are just way too different, and are even hostile towards the West as a whole. How can we expect those people to be positive additions to our countries given all these circumstances? So our countries are not just failing at integrating migrants, globalists (who hold basically all the power) are deliberately undermining the possibility of immigration even being a potentially positive thing. They are weaponizing it and making it totally destructive for the nation state, and that is the whole point. They don't want nation states to exist. So really, the problem is more complicated, and is due to a series of globalist lies. Globalist/leftist lies will be the undoing of this experiment. Their cultural relativism, their attacks on integration standards, their attacks on traditional culture...all of it is designed to destroy the United States as we know it.
As a muslim I 100% agree with the notion of leaving non spiritual aspect of islam back in the land you migrated from. It blows my mind that those people are trying to recreate the nightmare they escaped from.
Lol what? Do you even understand why we are leaving our countries? Do you actually believe people willingly leave their homes and everything behind? There was no ISIS or Al-Qaeda before the US invasion of Iraq, surprising? No, it isn't. All the problems in the middle east has been caused by west and British colonialism. If these western countries don't want Muslim refugees then they should stop creating them! Fairly simple solution correct? It's embarrassing that as a Muslim yourself you fail to understand that. It's mandatory for every Muslim (male and female alike) to obtain knowledge, clearly that is what you are in need of. JazākAllāhu Khairan. Allāhumma Barik.
You are a muslim? Really? Muslim by tradition? Islam is not a tradition it's a religion which you should study if you claim to be a muslim. What do you actually know about the religion of Islam?
The fact that this Gad Saad did not tell Joe rogan that prohibiting a woman from driving, or entering a home with shoes on has nothing to do with Religion at all. This is called Culture. Just so you know this Guy a Jewish talking about islam. If i were Him I would have talked about Fanatic Jewish that says using a phone is a sin, putting up picture is a sin ect… wake up
I am an ex-Muslim. I was having an argument with my sister who asserted that Christians denounce those among them who marry Muslims and punish them, and I said no that is not true and asked for evidence. I said there are hundreds of Christian sects and denominations who have differences in doctrine and understanding of the scripture, and that the belief system and practices of these sects differ significantly. So, while there might be a small sect of Christians who do denounce their members for marrying Muslims, there are no overarching authoritative narrative that compelles all Christians to do so.She said there is no need for evidence, and My father jumped in the discussion and said that Christian is faith rejected by God and that they believe in three gods. I said that is simply not true and as I tried to explain why this is false my father told me that I should shut up because I am countering Quranic claims. I was so frustrated because It is really gut wrenching and outright insulting when you deprive someone the right to express his views, and then go on to claim that you have sole knowledge of the ultimate truth. Unfortunately the majority of Muslims are like this. They start their argument by claiming something that has no bases in reality and when you try to counter their assertion they will simply put fingers in their ears and shut you down. Worse, and often in many cases if they detect that you are even mildly non-Islamic they start to vilify you and socially ostracize you. Basically, there is no value and rescue for evidences which is the mark of a rational and constructive argument. And when you demand evidence for their assertions they bring Quran as a testament, yet I say to them that members of other faiths do not acknowledge the credibility and authenticity of the Quran as the word of God and that using the Quran to validate their claims about Quranic verses is circular reasoning.
So you believe in christianity, even though scuentifically its flawed? For example, in the book of genises, 1st page, god created night and day BEFORE he created the sun. Scientific fallacy. You cannot have night and day without a Sun. Then he created the earth. You cannot have night and day before you have earth. Where was in night and day? In space? Thats on the 1st page of the bible, book of genesis. And still you follow it?
@@leetaaprayzaanio4751 I don’t believe in Christianity, but what you hear in the Muslim world about Christians is outright false and is intended to dehumanize them, so I thought that I need to clear some misconceptions.
@Bill Bows I see where you are coming from, but that doesn't mean his interpretation is accurate. There are commentaries from credible sources and scholars that accurately interprets the meaning behind the texts, provided they give evidence for their basis. For example, I can't take the US law system and interpret it any way I want to - there are procedures, precedents, evidence, etc. that are utilized to pass judgement and so on.
@@rb9888 Well Shaykh Uthman ibn Farooq from @onemessagefoundation would be a great candidate to interview. He's from San Diego and has plenty of videos on UA-cam from several topics.
Dear dad naaa I’ve read the hadiths. There’s nothin more delusional than ppl in the 21st century believing that their pedophile prophet Muhammad. FLEW TO THE MOON ON A HORSE...:and then split it 🤦♂️ yea ok who’s delusional
Dear dad nice try my uncle is an Imaam he couldn’t tell me shit when I came at him wit these scriptures get the fuk out of here. If I was his son he would’ve killed me told me that straight up foh
Funny that Gad said that the refugees should leave all there values and identity at the door. Last time I checked, he's Jewish and vehemently uses it as a victim card.
I’ve talked to people who don’t even follow Islam strictly in other words they live a life of haram and yet they say that Islam is perfect, Quran is perfect and that’s where the problem comes from. If someone who doesn’t even follow it strictly coz they’re “weak” is so against saying that maybe their religion or any religion is outdated and not perfect that’s toxic and that’s what invites violence.
If i immigrate to Spain or any other country, I do that because i like the country, the people, the culture, it's nature, the traditions, the language, their values, their architecture, their history and their kitchen. If i immigrate to Spain I want to make sure i won't damage, hurt or change (to a certain degree) anything of the countries identity that made me want to go to Spain in the first place. If i immigrate to Spain I want to be considered a Spaniard. I want to earn my passport and carry it with pride. Although I would never fully apprehend the Spanish language, i will do at least my very best. I would make sure I have basic knowledge of their history, their costums and their politics. If i immigrate to Spain I want to make sure my ideas of politics, values and religion are not complete opposite. Otherwhise i should learn to addapt or find a better suited country for my willings. If i immigrate to Spain I would want to partake in their festivities, social garderings, traditions and be present amongst their people. So I could gain their respect and not be an outsider. If i immigrate to Spain I have chosen Spain as my new first country and in times of war I will fight on their side. If i immigrate to Spain I'm no longer a member of society in the Netherlands. Therefore i don't feel like i have the right to use my dutch vote and be responsible for changes that doesn't effect me but will effect all others in the Netherlands If i immigrate to Spain And excel in sports on a proffesional level, i would want to show my grattitude and play for the flag of Spain during the Olympics. If i immigrate to Spain I for sure wouldn't use the democracy in this country to support the dictatorship in another country. If i immigrate to Spain I know things will be hard in the beginning. Immigration is hard. But i will not hold the Spannish people responsible. I will work hard and make sure i don't represent the majority of the countries criminality. If i immigrate to Spain and i represent the majority of the countries criminality and the majority of the lower income households, i will not call out for racism if i get more then regular pulled over in my expensive car. I understand the police should work according to evidences, statistics, studies and sciences. I will be co-operative and show that i'm a good citizen. I will make sure i won't help the reputation of foreigners in Spain further down the drain. If i immigrate to Spain I will not be offended if they call me the Dutchmen. I'm proud of my heritage and i understand men distinguishes people according to their characteristics. I understand they don't mean to offend me and i won't call out for racism. If i immigrate to Spain As a dutchmen, I wouldn't want my people to be the majority in a Spanish city. I migrated to Spain and not to the Netherlands. I should always be the minority. If i immigrate to Spain I should be allowed to use my mother tongue in private and public territory. But i understand that i should speak Spanish to the best of my capability during work hours. Even if my collegues are dutch as well. If i immigrate to Spain I should be allowed to keep my own dutch traditions. But I won't force it on the Spanish people by driving through the streets of Barcelona, honking and screaming while waving my dutch flag hanging outside of the car. If i fled to Spain because of war or any other inhumane circumstances in my own country, i should pay uttermost respect to Spain and i will be thankfull for any little help coming my way. For any situation is better then i had before. If i'm allowed to stay, i will owe Spain my life and i will act accordingly. I will follow all the above listed terms and be a good citizen. If i immigrate to Spain I will keep Spain, Spain I will keep Europe, Europe. I will keep the richness of all Europe's cultures intact. We don't want to lose what makes us great.
His parents did a very wise thing in feeling Lebanon. At the time it was still a majority Christian country - the only one in the Middle East. Now it’s become a living hell, as Christians have been emigrating in large numbers. What a shame. It was such an amazing country. Besides Israel, Dubai and perhaps Istanbul, it was one of the few places in the Middle East where you would experience the kinds of freedom that we in the west take for granted. And it’s all gone to waste because of war and corrupt elites
@@hizbutahrirusa The country is led by Christians, Sunni and Shiite Muslims. So no, all three have elites that have profited at the expense of the people
?? did you just site isreal as a free society? a fucking settler colonist state? A country built on modern day land theft and ethnic cleansing?? Also dubia and turkey are far from being by any western standard as "free".
@@johnnyoz5878 We wouldn't want Joe to lose his 100 Million Dollars contract with Spotify now would we. Nothing worse than a smooth talker with an agenda to hide the truth. Joe Rogan, I for one won't miss your podcasts when shift out of youtube.
from whom you are listening about Islam in this entire 33.5 minutes show ? From islamophobe Zionist who saw the cultural hatred of his motherland and associating this with Islam , really ? Who said you cannot criticized or raise question about Muslim believe. You all non Muslim should search your doubts about Islam in UA-cam. I argue with each and every sentence of this hypocrite. History is the proof that. Only under the Muslim empire Jewish have flourished and were given shelter from others
@@adeebhussain8484 He's all over UA-cam. He does a pretty good job of exposing himself. Only simpletons would need to have a known con artist exposed for them.
t. g g This is just too ridiculous to listen to. I also am a Muslim and occasionally wear shoes in my house. Plenty of people don’t wear shoes in the house most of the time.
If you read the original article, the landlord did not knock while entering and the wife did not have time to dress properly. That’s how they won the lawsuit. Wasn’t even about the shoes.
Also it’s important to note that the people migrating here, went to great troubles and they have acknowledged that they are going to a foreign place where they are not a majority religion wise or ethnically and they have to deal with that and the struggles that come with, Doing a survey of people in Syria and Syrians in the west would completely change the results of the survey.
Also important to note, if swarms of people from Western countries were fleeing to the middle east to seek sanctuary, you'd see how tolerant and nice we have been compared to the reception we'd receive.
The tradition began as a way to keep cool in deserts and be safe in sandstorms. Respect other cultures, and keep those other cultures out of the usa. We're much better armed than terrorists.
This guy dropped 110% facts on the matter, I'm someone who spent a lot of time learning about Islam from authentic sources not western. I consider Sufis to be my brothers and sisters ;but there's a faction that is to Islam what the Roman Empire is to Christianity. Empires literally went nowhere they just changed their clothes ;but continued with standard operating procedure. True Islam is of the Light and beautiful Gnosticism.
Sufism is extremely violent. Read about the Indian experience with Sufism. They have a few popular cultural aspects to them - but they are also absolutely brutal.
@@fangdog29 I prefer Sufis to Sikhs for sure. they're far more violent than Sufis by a long shot! We're talking about people that practice honor killings and kill off daughters....
@@viklondon3466hilarious using that joke as a source every single one of his videos can and have been very easily debunked. what happened to going to an actual learned person or the source directly instead of those very obviously making careers out of their bias and hatred.
I worked with a lot of east africans and middle-eastern individuals who were Muslim - they were very adamant in their faith and would seek out discussion with people to compare, contrast, and in many cases in the work place even - to inflame a situation or discussion especially when they were met with equanimity, facts, and accurate-as-can-be-managed historical observation. I learned a little somali and learned the arabic alphabet so I could understand what they were saying, and bridge gaps - BUT - no matter what, I was adaank-ka, the "White guy" but it was humanizing in its own way for me to call them "medo-ga" "Black guy" in their own language. They invited me to eat with them during Ramadan when they broke their fasts, I got to know their relatives - they were mostly decent folks, but when you brought up the religion it was MUCH more fervent and powerfully charged than you would ever expect. It is not racist to observe and comment - because if it that is the case then what they are saying is that their cultural identity and religion is more important than their personhood/humanity.
from whom you are listening about Islam in this entire 33.5 minutes show ? From islamophobe Zionist who saw the cultural hatred of his motherland and associating this with Islam , really ? Who said you cannot criticized or raise question about Muslim believe. You all non Muslim should search your doubts about Islam in UA-cam. I argue with each and every sentence of this hypocrite. History is the proof that. Only under the Muslim empire Jewish have flourished and were given shelter from others.
@@tareqalome4015 Labels are nifty little things, aren't they? If I label you something, it immediately puts you into a box and means that I don't have to listen to you or consider your opinion because you are part of enemy group an "other." Labeling diminishes the effectiveness of the conversation. I have heard about Islam from young men training to be Imams. I have heard about Islam from immigrants trying to adjust. I have heard about Islam from friends, from family and from people from all walks of life. I stand by my observation.
It’s the exact same way with the religious Jews who also believe in a political aspect but nobody ever mentions them just Muslims. The reason Christians aren’t like this is because they believe the laws were abolished
@@mountaindew3201 yes, which means you follow man made laws for society and only keep Christianity in the house. No wonder atheists took control of the Christian world and brought degeneracy to your ancestors
The thing that most of these conversations fail to address is Israel who has just as discriminatory practices and ideology, and who has a massive influence on the world.
Ok but this conversation isnt about israel. That's a bit like me commenting on a cookery video saying 'why is nobody talking about israel'. Plenty of conversations are being had over israel, just watch those
Massive influence on the world? You mean in the scientific, medical, technological, and military world? Probably. Definitely not religiously. I think you fail to realize that Judaism is an ethnoreligion so it’s not just a religion but an ethnicity. Also I think you don’t really know much about the history of Jews in this region particularly Mizrahi Jews. Mizrahi Jews were kicked out of Arab states and places in what is the modern state of Israel by Jordan during this time also. There were actually more Jewish refugees than Palestinians. Also Jews were willing to share the land since the beginning. The 1948 war was started by the surrounding Arabs and Palestinians not Jews. Land was also offered in numerous peace deals that the Palestinians rejected. Also practices that are considered discriminatory were put in place after wars and the second intifada for safety measures. I don’t think you would like it if your clubs, buses, restaurants, and schools were getting blown up by suicide bombers. I don’t think you would like if you were driving on the road and then you were shot at or thrown bricks at. I don’t think you would like it if there were multiple stabbing attempts a week because the government of the region next to you has a pay for slay policy where anybody who kills one of your people gets a pension. I don’t think you would like it if people in your country were getting kidnapped and killed. I don’t think you would like if thousands of rockets were launched at cities in your home country and the international world expects you to do nothing because you have more power. I also don’t think you would feel safe if you lived next door to a jihadist terrorist group that has in their charter that they want to hunt and kill all of your people in the world. I also don’t think you would like it if people tried to revise history to erase your connection to a particular land when genetics, history, archeology, linguistics, and culture proves that you are indigenous not solely religion. Btw the creators of the modern movement of Zionism were secular and so are many Israelis. We actually come from this land that’s why it’s important not solely based on religion so your input is inaccurate.
"most Muslims are good people" Yeah even most afghan people are good people Most Iranians are good people And still in Muslim majority countries there is homophobia, opression against women, minorities, atheists .... So this argument is useless, even in Nazi Germany most people were kind and good people, the thing is, when you have an opressive ideology being followed by the majority of people (like Islam), then you will have an opressive country even if most of those people aren't radical.. and the left knows that they already use this approach against the right, for example they say the united states has a white supremacy culture despite that most American people aren't explicit racists but they have subconscious bias, that's their logic against the right, but when it comes to Muslims they say most Muslims are good people therefore Islam is a religion of peace and the only problem is with a small minority of radicals
@@RS-ti7bz 1st, there is no Russian mass immigration into the west, so "Russian culture" is not an issue for the west 2nd, Muslims are the most religious people on earth, they take their religion seriously and believe in literal interpretation, most Muslims think that being gay is being a pervert and should be prevented, the same thing if you're an atheist or ex Muslim
@@hayatcode2975 the mass migration that today is happening is coming form north Africa,Syria,afganistan and from South America to mostly europe and to a little extent america.guess whats common in all those countries these countries were going well then america thought let me send some freedom bombs there and destabilize the the countries.problems in muslims countries you pointed out like homophobia is common all around the world,women right issues are only in some countries with patriarchal societies, every country has minority issues and making it like only due is islam is just naive of you.america has killed 1 million iraqis on basis of some BS.get your act together before lecturing others
@@evonerfin3 nah I disagree. I am Arab and I lived in both worlds in an arab country and in Europe, minorities rights, women rights, LGBT, anti racism is way better in the west compared to Muslim countries, and I'm not talking about governments only but also the people, in Muslim countries about 70 % at least of people believe that gays are dirty animals that should be at least put in jail or killed, the same goes for atheists or ex Muslims many of them believe that they should be killed or put in jail. So there is a big difference, when the left says that all cultures are the same they make me laugh, no they aren't the same, there are shitty countries around the world if you compare them to the west then the west would be heaven, in united states you can't even find a single public figure which attacks gays, sure there are homophobic individuals but they are a minority that's why we don't see anyone being homophobic publicly and explicitly, in Muslim countries it's a totally different story, in Muslim countries if you say on tv things like gays are perverts and should be punished it's a totally accepted and respected point of view, in fact the majority of them agree that homosexuals are sick and perverts and consider it as a sin, I can tell you about many examples regarding many issues, for example it's a wide accepted idea that a woman must be obedient to her husband, while in the west that's a minority idea even most Christians Don't believe those to things anymore
@@hayatcode2975 i am muslim dude and i don't agree with western values and gender dysphoria keep it in your countries don't send it here about muslims immigrating there don't destabilize countries and people won't to be desparate to come there to to save their lives. Also america just accepts 100000 people a year and you are making a too much issue of that as muslims aren't half of this figure!
Grt124 Z Yes you have some people like that. But what’s the definition of integration to some? When a women wears a hijab, does that mean she doesn’t want to fit in?
Spent a month in India a ways back to see the sights (beautiful and wild country btw). Everywhere that I went in India I would visit the local museums and ruins to study the culture. Without fail at every site I went to the faces of all of the god statues and carvings were broken off. Without fail the locals blamed Muslims for destroying their artifacts and relics. The Mughals built some amazing Citadels in that country, greater than any European castle I have seen but they attempted to destroy the local culture everywhere they went.
Darthenator Is that what that is? I always assumed there was a black market where these are sold. A lot in Cambodia has been defaced. I also noticed missing faces in a cathedral in Germany
Dissident Thoughts It’s also what every culture does lol... go to the pub of a rival football team in your own country, wearing your team’s colours. It just so happens that Muslim culture isn’t desirable - I agree. But it’s wise to look at it as a human-collectively universal trait
Dissident Thoughts Apologies, I forgot which thread I was replying to. In this context you are right - our (current) culture tends to value preservation of history, a kind of respect to any way of life that preceded us. Islam seems uniquely hell-bent on utter destruction of ‘false history’
@@Bluudclaat So of all the cultures in the world, which is responsible for more gentrification in this regard, of destroying national monuments - European or Arabic? We can all play dumb and act like "everyone is good And nice and sweet" other we can actually look at history objectively and say that the hoards of the Monghul were one of the most exclusively destructive forces to co-opt any other region. At least when Europeans ruled in India, they didn't force the natives to change their belief and native culture.
I listened, and there are so many things wrong with what Gad says. But I kinda understand why he feels the way he does. Islam as a 'doctrine' is to embrace and be tolerant of 'the other'. The problem is those leaders that are supposed to advocate the religion. Personal biases bleed into thier public speeches and then gives Islam a bad rap. Let's not forget, its the US that seem to invade these predominantly Muslim countries (in talking to you Cheney!) and piss them off.
Hey @@Tigo625 have you read the Quran? I have. Human Life is so valuable, and to kill the innocent god completely against the tennets of my values, and millions of others. Been reading the comments, and jeez, so much anger on both sides. And it's our leaders that are hustling all of us. While they count thier dollar bills, they watch us go at it.
Hi @@adlerbr12, well at 6.52, he's using a quote from the Taliban and using in a context that that's what's all muslims want. Forgive the pun, but speaking for myself... Ain't nobody got time for no conquering! I just want to get to work on time! He's suggesting that all muslims want to integrate Islam into society. Wrong. Wherever Muslims live on this planets must abide by the laws of that land. But I do agree that the conversation does open up and is a conversation that should be had with politeness and empathy. Above all else, we'll always have re-runs of The Golden Girls. And the theme tune is actually quite pertinent to the conversation too!
@@nokhez It's not "your leaders" that propagate "radical" Islam, it's people like you, who claim that the radicals are not only the minority, but the false Muslims. The truth, however, is that they are the true followers of Mohammed and you are just rubble that happens to help their cause.
Just goes to show that "tolerance," much like "diversity" or "inclusivity" is not always an inherently good thing, even though that's the narrative the Left always peddles. Tolerance (in most contexts that its used in political discourse) just means moral and cultural relativism. People often forget that a culture or civilization is defined just as much by what they DON'T tolerate as they are by what they tolerate.
you can't be too tolerant or you stand for nothing. I often see my Christian co-workers/friends go clubbing and have sex and on Saturday night go to church on Sunday morning then go have out of marriage sex again that evening it's like some Christians are so tolerant to everything like I assumed if the book you believe in says not to do something you would comply if you believe in it. same way you got gay pastors and stuff I'm not homophobic or anything but it's not something I would do or agree with on a personal level but people can do what they want. that's beside the point the bible refutes that but I still see gay pastors. it's like they change the religion to conform to society whereas Muslims unapologetically conform society to the religion. I don't see people with stronger faith than Muslims take it how you will. tolerance is not always a good thing now we got transmen in women's sports due to our "tolerance" and now that tolerance is killing women's sports.
It’s weird how joe would say that the left in general doesn’t allow anyone to criticize islam even though it’s “regressive” in front of a jew when Jewish people created a whole term that makes you a criminal if you decide to criticize them or their religion the hypocrisy.
Gad:"So what do we do? What, what's your..what's your-" Joe: "Drugs, psychedelic drugs. everyone gets on mushrooms, and I'm NOT kidding. Like really, I really think you need transcendent experiences to escape from the day-to-day vibration of normal life." This was an incredible interview and some extremely well-thought out points were made by both of these guys. I couldn't agree more.
this was the farthest you can get from "well thought out points" 95% from it was complete horse shit, i'd explain but i'm too tired so you have google , or you can search in the comments for someoone to to explain it, good luck
Joe Rogan should bring a Islamist to discuss Islamism. Most of the time Islam is discussed on the show, it is from atheist or from people who clearly hates it. Maybe JR should also try to find the behind the story of Islamist.
I married a Muslim, thinking that he was a liberal. Once I got pregnant,ooh boy did things change! All the while, he was cheating on me with the type of girls he'd fiercely criticise. Wish I listened to everyone who warned me- this guy fulfilled all the stereotypes! Divorcing him now- wish me luck.
Gmail Account ex muslim here sorry for ur experience, sometimes one cant judge a person before hand.
You didn't marry a Muslim stop lying to yourself, did he pray five times a day? Did he fast a month every year? Did he drink alcohol or go partying? You married someone who calls himself muslim but isn't one, not a single practicing Muslim would dare to cheat on his wife because that is one of the biggest sins in Islam, WHAT really happened is you married some westernized Arab who barely has anything to do with Islam and now you are unloading all your anger because you had bad judgement in choosing a man
@@britbloc123 oh look the jewish indoctrination is going really well with you
vgnhdhe well said
+vgnhdhe
I'm not wrong though am I? I notice how you dIdn't attempt to disprove me. because you can't. And you know you can't.
Whenever I hear radical Islam I think of a guy surfing on a sand dune.
That's rad dude
Whenever I hear radical Islam I think, well yeah.
I think of millions of people oppressed and dying for a false prophet but ok that’s a cool interpretation too
@@hiramrosenkreuz9835... pizza be upon him
Mohammed chillin, jes shreddin the gnar.
No one knows what's its like ...
To be the Gad man..
To be the Saad man
The Saad truth
Behind his beard..
Behind Jew Eyes 😆
@@ystconnection
Lol
😂
Funny to hear that in europe six years later
More like sad and scary
I'm curious to know why the gay couple didn't go to a Muslim bakery to make them a cake?
Muslim bakery lol
@@roas2 lol
What does a muslim bakery bake? Mosques and religious books?
Crowder did! They turned him down! haha..he went with not-gay Jared pretending to be his very gay boyfriend and they straight up told him no!
Because they wanted to make it out alive. Christians are sweeties and they can slap them around.
Islam throws gays off buildings, but for some reason the Democratic Party loves Muslims and gays.
Joe can u for once have these "honest convos" about islam with an actual renowned muslim scholar. I would love to see that
He can't do stereotyping then
Yasar Arafath A yeah, something doesn’t fit your shoes, yussssss he is stereotyping. Lmao.
Typical muslim.
That's true
@Anirudh how did you know scholar didn't writing a research paper? I guess you have wrong understood of our scholar. You also should listen to scholar for your understanding?
@Anirudh r u kidding me? If u wanna know something about science would u prefer an answer by a science student or a professor? The best answer will always be given by the experts. And the normal ppl follow these scholars as well so it becomes clear with whom these topics can be best discussed with!
I feel Joe Rogans podcast is free education and new ideas, and it’s probably one of the best things any person has done for man kind
Just remember that this is still one side of an argument
muslim...@@mhdmazzeh
I feel that that was a stupid thing to say. Probably in the top 10,000 things? Maybe. But you probably didn't mean that.
Gad Saad is a great example of "I'm just telling you how it is, I didn't make the world"
Such a guy shouldn't be interviewed by anyone to talk about anything
@@desertknights5003 cause he say the truth that cultists dont want others to ear
@@Sikyu-ye4nsNo because he spreads misinformation and bigotry
@@yoending1800 bigotry said by a muslim 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@yoending1800 he spread facts. we read the quran and the sunna, and see the action of the ummah
I'm Muslim and since when is it against my religion to wear shoes at home? I mean many eastern cultures remove their shoes but it's not some religious rule lmao
U shud ask that family who conspired with human rights idiots to sue the landlord.
xmuhammadmqx yeah it’s like maybe there were no Muslims walking by the studio that day so they took the next very best thing
How dare you not remove your shoes!
@@wkdravenna LMFAO
Imagine if they threw tacs and literal bullshit on the ground and forced the dude not to wear shoes by suing him...it wasn’t even their house it was his and he was showing it to them like wtf. Can tell the judge was biased asf.
"Why should I be tolerant to the intolerable?"
@Jakob Patrick Not all. but a far too high percentage of the ones that come to Europe.
@@TheMokkii en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massutmaning Essentially a doctoral thesis on the mass immigrations effect on Sweden. Wait until it has been translated into English and then read it. Funny enough it is written by an immigrant. I just wish more people read it in Sweden.
@@mohamadfarman9019 wait wait... you have problems with immigrants? Then talk to your corporate overlords, they are the ones filling immigration quotas to keep the waves down. Funny tho people will talk only about the immigrant families that leave all their history behind to come in hopes of a better future
@@TheMokkii that was so passionate and emotional, you must have made a good argument! I'm crying in awe of the powerful sequence of words you have strung together. Wow. Kudos to you friend
@@TheMokkii yea cause I came all on my stomach just now. Thanks bro
Gad fled an Islamic country when his life was threatened directly because of islam. He's clearly VERY well informed on the religion itself. Yet when he gets to Canada the woke brigade think they understand islam better than him and can label him a bigot simply for sharing his experience. I had no idea he was Jewish until now I always thought he was an atheist, not that it matters it just took me by surprise.
jewish or atheist. is there a difference
@@etzelkaplan9677 I actually said it didn't matter either way to me but I'm pretty sure there is a difference between the two.
@@mabawsaritchie6210 870percent of jewish folk are atheists
@@etzelkaplan9677 🤣 very good 870% what about the the other 130% 🤣
Lebanon isn’t an Islamic country, it’s a Christian majority country
The same people who say “I don’t have to tolerate intolerance” tolerate Islamic intolerance of everyone else.
Joe I have been fighting ISIS in iraq I am a proud Kurd from Kurdistan, it would be great to have a good talk with you one day there is so much to be said, I have many stories. I'm an MMA fan and have been watching you for a long time but I can tell that there is so much you should know, majority of people in Kurdistan are Muslim however we have never had any religious issues with any of our Non muslim people we have been fighting to protect everyone here ( yezidi Kurds, christians and muslims) and we don't care what their religion is we stand for whats right, I'm not a religious person but in general people are open in my culture compare to other region in Middle east but I feel like there is so much you need to know, because people's perspective is very different than reality if you are not close and see it for yourself. I have been fighting against the evil ISIS along with all the Kurdish fighters to try protect our people your people and everyone else that lives in our region and all the refugees who have fled to Kurdish region in iraq. I have watched some of your podcasts I do think you generalize a bit but its not your fault because you have not been there and if I was in your place I might have been the same hearing so much crazy shit. I think any extreme religious mentality is bad for people regardless of their religion. middle east clearly has lots of work to do but despite that there are many good people here. i'm one of those people that is completely against any religious role in any government. religion should be a harmless private practice for anyone regardless of believes. some of the stuff i might say that might be a little difficult to implement in some countries because their government have used wrong religious tactics to keep them dumb and making them obey what they wanna do with them that combined with bad cultural practices in some arab nations in the middle eat.
I don't know if you are ever are interested to come here but if you do let me know, you will be safe trust me and we can go shoot some guns haha but if I do visit the U.S one day would love to have a talk or even on the show, shoot all the questions you want would love to answer them.
best. comment. ever.
you should contact him directly, i don't think he runs this page at all.
Kurdistan had many Jews, many many Jews at one point. Beginning about 300 years ago the empires murdered them out, the creation of Israel gave the governments a propaganda excuse to kill them completely, by 1951 there were zero hence he says "yazidi kurds christians and muslims". That said, I fully support Kurdish independence, and theyre better than any other Muslim group of the mideast today.
Only a hero could write this.. God bless you and stay safe.
If most Kurds are not extremists and have a "live and let live" mentality, then that proves actually moderate Islam could indeed "coexist". Please show the world how it's done! How do you feel about reformers like Majid Nawaz? Are you okay with Muslims who have left the faith like Aain Hirsi Ali? Check out a guy by the name of Faisal Saeed Al Mutar on Facebook! He's pretty cool... saw an interview with him on The Rubin Report. Thanks for your post... gives hope!
My Uncle is an immgration Lawyer, And he literally had a case come his way in which the state of california was allowing Islamic faith based Immgrants to bring in Child brides of the age of 13 years old. Its rather disturbing.
So did he allow this?
As a Lawyer, did he seek the death penalty?
Well Cali has always been pro pedo
exact same thing,just went through its first court-case in Germany - labelled right(!....>>>?!?!!!)
Same with European countries. They turn a blind eye to it.
It's fine to promote this idea that all religions are the same. Until you work with the dude who wont't speak to you because you're woman. He needed a man to work as a mediator with females( i was lower form than ameba) . That happened to me in my country, yet that particular Muslim didn't find nothing disturbing in the fact that half population of my country are females who pay for his family benefits through taxes.
In Islam, we say that interaction between man and woman should only occur when in marriage. Naturally, men are weak and succumb to their desires much more so than women. As much as a man ensure he behaves upright, his thoughts are in constant battle between, a teaching of Islam to "lowering your gaze" and lustful ideas.
And so we say women are not objects for lustful intentions. Islam elevates women in that regard as they are not the embodiment of sex symbols. We say women and men are different and fulfill different roles in society. Women are educators, entrepreneurs, warriors and so much more, but most importantly, Mothers - The foundation to every society. Something which liberal values are trying to eradicate, even by the feminist movement.
It's funny enough though that the secular west still has issues with all of these. Your media certainly fails to show progression on this front. But yet, your western propogandists chose to show you a perspective of Islam that sees woman oppressed and backwards.
So I urge you to see past you liberal and secular indoctrination, and open your mind up to other world views.
@Edward Reeves I certainly don't find atheism or secularism to be the answer to the societal issues we are experiencing as a global community. What are the solutions?
@@carddash. Again, why shoul'd I adapt to your religion or philosophy while you live in my country and enjoying perks of my society? Why shoul'd I have one rest break during my job, while my college muslim have two (20 min. extra for praying). I don't mind, but I also want 20 min. extra break otherwise is discriminatory against me. And don't lecture me about muslims because I grew up with them, I work with them, we respect each others, I am invited to their celebrations (Bairam) as they are to mine (Christmas). Oh, wait, they don' follow the teachings of Wahhabis, so they are not real muslims, right?And do you expect Saudi Arabia, for example, to acommodate me if I go to a visit?
@@marinamaras4067 I take it you are referring to the States right?. So it's up to discussion as to who's country it is for whomever to practice based on it's dirty colonial history. I mean, we see the natives being pushed further behind and struggling to cope in modern America, if it is that they do not fall subject to liberal ideologies while they trying to keep amend a damaged community and lost culture.
And had it been a Muslim society, business would have had to halt during the 5 X 20 min prayer times (or rather 3 since the standard business hours includes Dhur, Asr and perhaps Magrib) depending on the operational hours. Beautiful isn't it that regardless of the intensity of the everyday hustle and bustle, it is obligatory to find solace and calm within your working hours, unlike modern secular society that ensure the carbon copy of workers grind and grind to the point of misery. I'm sure whether you believe in God or not, this would be appreciated.
Then this brings me to Saudi Arabia and the Wahhabi factions. The fact the you can't visit that country is a problem they have to deal with and answer for. It's laws does not involve the entirety of Muslim thought, and certainly is not coded into Islamic tradition. This is why many Muslims reject the stance of Wahhabism.
Had it been that you lived in an Islamic society, perhaps, let's say under an Islamic state, and not the secular Muslim countries we see today, then surely you would have been afforded residence, acceptance and tolerance as long as you are law abiding, as would any nation require from it's citizens.
Just because you know a few Muslims does not mean you get the whole picture, especially when these Muslims fall prey to the encompassing liberal values of the west that is as we can see today so grossly imposed on global society. So again, I urge you to see pass these misconceptions about Islam that is being rammed down your throat by western media.
@@carddash. Again, you didn't answerved my question:"Why shoul'd I adapt to your religion/philosophy/way of life in my country?"Then, you are bashing secular countries (neutral regarding religions) which are the most evolved societies/economies. What's the problem? You stay on your side of the world and don't try to change my country and we're all happy! And for the record. :" I'm not from USA, my nation never participated in slavery, like every other nation we have a lot be ashamed for trough our history. It doesn't makes us better or worse." Just like you! The point is, you don't live in Western society if you can't adapt, like I won't live in your society if I can't adapt.
Man almost gets killed in an ethnic cleansing
The comments: “This guy must’ve been a loser in Lebanon 😂🤣😂🤣”
It's because it's Islam 🤦♂️ he's literally saying this stuff and people back it up by attacking him and not actually looking and listening to what he's actually saying!
@@ographicshd3467 it’s not because of Islam this is all lies you guys easily het brainwashed
Some of it are probably from upper class muslims which sadly like to look down on poor non muslims especially jews and christians because there has been a history of conflict. If you look at places with Islam that are not arab like the Baltic countries you will see how they literally meme the ethnic cleanings of Bosniaks or muslim ethnic Bosnians it will blow your mind if you did not know and just the general history and modern culture.
@@ographicshd3467 most biased person against islam
Joe's three favorite words:
Disingenuous
Chimp
Dimethyl-Triptamine
Good job on the copy paste man haha
And DMT
&
*THC
You forgot tribalism
You forgot "Ideology"
Khabib texting joe right now send me location 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Adil sidd hahaha astaghfirullah
He will show how peaceful Islam really is😂😂😂
@@mypenisisunbelievablysmall5258 fuck off starting war all over the world for money and joke about us
@Adil sidd Islam calls for the killing of apostates
yes extremely peaceful
@@shavaizsheikh2767 yah not just any apostates dumbass. Theres a difference between someone starting to eat bacon vs someone who backstabs muslims. The death punishment of apostacy applies to the latter not the former. Similar to how treason is also a crime punishable by death in many countries.
I am concerned about Islam myself but do you not think that Gad Saad as a Lebanese Jew might just be a tad biased ?
Well what happened in Canada is the sign of ignorance about islam... that family were clearly bullshitters, ask any muslim and he'll laugh at their poor excuse, they won't be able to pull of such a trick on a muslim landlord. We take off shoes in mosques for practical reasons: we pray on the carpet so we can have shoes then put our foreheads in a contaminated place, that's a health hasard.
@@Ssookawai Putting your head where other people's feet are is also a health hazard though.
One of the rare times I feel joe isn't listening actually the only time. The world isn't going to take mushrooms but as gad was saying if you're leaving this place be open to other people's choices and live your own life happy and accepting
You must be tolerant of their lack of tolerance.
ZING... that's a good one
If you stop going over to their countries, destabilising and killing them for their oil, they'll probably become more tolerant.
@@fatedestiny1397 Islam has invaded the western world for 1400 years so you can shove that bullshit right back up your ass where you pulled it from.
@@fatedestiny1397 done!
@@christianriddler5063 You're delusional.
A religion is a choice. People can be judged on their choices.
Freedom of speech allows people to speak. It doesn’t mean there can’t be consequences for what they choose to say. The key word is always choice. You’re free to judge people, but what you CHOOSE to do with that choice can be reprimanded.
Yh, that's fine because pretty much most of the things we do are choices
@@MikeB-sq8vy
Freedom of speech is there being no consequences from the state for speaking, or vocalising any opinion.
@@hitlerssecondcoming2523 unless inciting for violence.
So you're going to negatively judge people for making the choice to have faith, seek spirituality, believe in something bigger than themselves, and believe that their actions have consequences in the eyes of their creator? Religion is also a part of peoples' upbringing, culture, and traditions. Its not some choice you make like picking which pants I want to wear today
I am based in London and I used to work as home career so I was going to meet this young Muslim fella for the first time at his home together with my manager and once we got to his address the guy's mum greet as at the door and I spontaneously give my hand to the lady which she shakeed back and the shift went off smoothly. After the shift my manager did tell me off saying you don't shake hands to Muslim lady. Bloody hell the lady did not complain and an European did.
It’s haram
It's haraam for a non mahram man and woman to shake hands brother.
It's difficult for me to understand such an archaic tradition in nowadays
The lady is one of 2:
1.She is not a strict muslim
2. She did not want to embarrass you
The culture is very anti women so shaking hands makes her whorish
Since when is Islam for the "down trodden". It gives rights to the afflicted but it doesn't mean Muslims are poor or handicapped. I'm making six figures and I'm Muslim. Islam is for everyone.
Same here. Islam teaches to be clean, to be nice, to have a good and enjoyable life and to do good deeds. That’s all possible with a normal life
Everyone always wants to talk about the good, but why does your community not speak out against the radical element in your belief system. Anti gay, anti jew, anti west, anti freedom, responsible for the majority of all terrorism on earth today. Its always deflection and blame, maybe if people within your community stood up and condemned the extreme we would all find peace together.
You do not need religion to be a good person nore to be clean or earn 6 figures.
@@murat7006 Why do you need Islam for this?
@@kimmasek you don’t need Islam for this, but Islam is the root of this. Just like you don’t need Mather Luther king to not be racist right? But he is a symbol of it and seen an the one that started the anti racial campaign in America. If you support him you can’t be racist to people of color. Same thing with Islam, in times where people used to bury girls at birth just because they seemed as a liability Islam came and banned that, woman were sold as materialistic things and regarded as a trade value Islam came and banned that, and made woman more powerful. In times where Europeans used to take a dump in a bowl and then dump it from their windows Islam made people self clean themselves 5 times a day before prayer and showed people how to stay clean at all times. You don’t need Islam to be all that, but if you have Islam you have all that. That’s the difference.
@@murat7006 Yeh that is all great, but we live in the 21st century now with running water and toilets, we do not need hygienic insights from the 1st century. When I ask my Muslim friends about Islam- what is written in the Quran and what is allowed/not allowed, they are completely clueless about it and they always respond with, I have to ask my "Imam". They then proceed that Islam teaches them to wash themeselves 5 times a day like you just said. If the original text of the religion is so hateful that you cannot interpret it according to its ordinary meaning and different Imams interpret them differently, at what point do you just throw the book away and think for yourself. Well sorry, your not even throwing the book away, you are just not listening to some old guy who is apparently able to understand a written text better than you.
Minority who comes from an Islamic country here. Everything being said by Gad Saad is very very true, especially about it being a "supremacy-based religion". Yes that is very very true. Where I come from, it's being thrown into our faces on everything from the TV to schools. This is why I'm so pissed off by that Ben Affleck tantrum. He is extremely ignorant.
Can you tell me what is your experience with history and geopolitics?
Also I'd like to know where you actually live that's feeding you this crap?!
I never heard of most, if not all of this crap!!!
I am amused when ignorant people feel confident and they are so of chart that it is funny. Bring some examples so we understand. 😂
@@eaglezonly Its the issue with democracy. If you want your country to be a certain way, you have to have people who think the same way as you voting. Democrats are pro immigration, because they know most immigrants will vote Democrat. Population growth is the biggest cause of pollution, but environmentalist stay silent on immigration because its all really about power. The environment only matters when saving it has a socialist solution.
Lol ok. Ur just another disbelievers crying because ur mad u lost against muslims
Hold the phone, so it's ok to FORCE Christians to make a cake for a gay wedding, but it's not ok to wear shoes into an apartment you own because someone who is Muslim rents from you?!
That was Canada
Completely different scenarios. Hardly comparable.
@@skyblue9991 uh.. how?!?!
@@skyblue9991 to be fair both of them business transaction. But islam family didnt abide by the rules and stopped paying right. While the other they have right to refuse service since its a private business.
@@TheNugtorios19 The man got in trouble because of his ignorance. He entered their home without knowing what he was doing went against their religious beliefs... the Christian cake maker flat out discriminated against the customer. Had the landlord told them they had to leave his apartment because he didn't like their praying or religious rituals or something... then the two situations would be the same but as it stands... one is ignorance and one is discrimination.
"...someone will put up their hand and say "But my aunt Linda is taller than my uncle Joe", oh gee, Darwin is dead!"
I died xD
Women dressed up as bee keepers 🤣😂
'99% of the days Jeffrey Dahmer was a nice guy' - put that on a tshirt
Maybe swap the word days for TIME
Spot on...
For the record I don’t have a practiced religion
He just had a few issues..... In his freezer
Yeah and Hitler didnt drink tequila because his friends said it made him mean.
Being Christian in Syria is one of the most horrible and awful things ever and it will haunt me forever
Shady Makhoul
I’m so sorry you had to go through that. I’m Muslim and I’m against Muslims who target nonMuslims. It makes me so sad to see nonMuslims suffer under Muslim rule.
Liyanna De Lioncourt it’s amazing to see Muslims recognizing the damage islam has done and say it out loud I really appreciate you....Christianity had it dark times back in the days but because of Christians who had the same mindset as you we managed to get that behind us, live in peace and accept all people i hope you and people like you will do the change we want to see in Muslims cause at my end there is no hate towards muslims but there is a big concern about Islam and what it teaches people.
Shady Makhoul
Islam has been hijacked, I think it might have been different in its first couple of years but afterwards, all those Hadiths were pinned down 200-300 years later. I can’t take most of it seriously when it comes to how intolerant it is.
Shady Makhoul
Thanks btw ur my bro in humanity, it’s above any religion.
Liyanna De Lioncourt I’m not sure about if it was hijacked i never did a research on that but what you said about being your brother it’s really sweet of you and if this words or logic applied to the world we will be a very happy planet. Much respect bro
This Saad guy starts off on how he was oppressed and had to hide his religion in a Muslim country and how bad that is then suggest that the same should be done to Muslims who comes to non Muslim countries 🤔
I guess that's how he solves problems
Apples and oranges. Allowing immigration as a refugee is different from being oppressed in the country you were born
@@rexsceleratorum1632 what about those Muslims who were born in a non Muslim country
No mate he’s saying we should not tolerate your intolerance, totally different.
Since this podcast we have had teachers beheaded in France, teachers threatened in U.K. over “blasphemous” cartoons by Mslms... and just recently an MP stabbed to death in U.K. for objecting to halal barbarity in slaughterhouses.
What he said was, leave your old world religious / cultural baggage at the airport. Don’t land in Toronto with what you are running away from. Don’t import your values to a rational civilisation. Learn critical thinking. Here we can be free enough to not have to defend our selves. Show some humility, be grateful for your new country and say Thanks everyday.
This not about Islam, this happens in every religious minority.. such as on Muslims by Hindus in India... On Muslims by Jews in Palestine/Israel ... on Hindus by Muslims in Bangladesh .. etc.. No religion is different... all has radical part in their Textbook
Call the guy from the deen show and have a conversation with him joe
I agree, there needs to be some nuance here. I mean, a Jew talking about Islam. Come on Joe, i thought you were better than that.
@Mark Steven Probably not, I don't think he's scrutinized the Quran and Hadiths and understands the prayer and history behind it. But sure this guy knows more
@@wali5912 even normal Muslims aren't allowed to scrutinise the hadith and quran and get their own interpretation. This is because things can be misinterpreted and it leaves space for people to take things out of context to back their agenda. It is what extremists use to recruit young naive men. Similar to left wing media that like to cherry pick things that Jordan peterson and Ben shapiro say to make them look evil when, if you look at the context then what they say makes sense. The only people that are supposed to interpret the Quran and Hadith are muftis who have spent decades studying them and getting qualified. So when a normal Muslim has a question they're supposed to ask a mufti, not go directly to the source material in case they mess up the interpretation part. This is also why 99.999% of Muslims don't want to kill everyone else and take over. The ones that do are the ones that went directly to the source material and completely misunderstood it.
The Flying Clutchman scrutinized in this context means analyzed to full extent
@@wali5912 I know. I used it with that exact understanding.
Problem is they bring the problems here and end up being like the people they escaped from. It's insane
I completely agree! I dont have a problem with immigration however there is a price to pay because allot of people who immigrate bring their old life here and try and indoctrinate their beliefs on everyone else.
Kind of how we did when we left GB and made America 🙋♂️
@@charliesvids if you want to look at it that way be my guest. When we came there was no country. No systems. Comparing us to Islam is invalid. We don't kill people over thier beliefs but yes the way our ancestors handled some things was not good.
The idea that they are escaping is wrong, they agree with the way to lead, but might not like the leadership or are just leaving because it seems nicer in Europa.
The migrant crisis ex. was people from all over the world coming to europa because they saw an opportunity. The system is down, its time to go..
The little kid that washed up on shore was living in peace in Turkey, the farther was a human smuggler and set his family on a dangerous course for no other reason than to better their lives via the welfare systems in europa. He wasnt a refugee, he was an oppotunist.
@@codylee5466 Europe was colonized by the Romans they forced the pagans in Europe into Christian and in the process of colonizing, they probably killed some. The pagans then colonized other places and also killed people in the progress. If you don't accept to join Christianity you will be isoled from the community and eventually your kids through breading will become Christian. It's moronic to believe that Christianity reached that level of following without the use of violence.
As an ex-muslim (not 100% socially) that was so interesting discussion to hear. I lost my faith when I was 19. Btw guys have some hope coz I m observing in my generation (I m 30), that half of my friends has already realized that it's unscientific, illogical and total bs. we just can't express those publicly yet but discuss with one another all d tym
Which country do you live in? I'm tunisian and I'm observing the same trend. Most of my friends either lost their faith (Like myself) or are skeptical towards Islamic teachings and Islam in general.
I like how you said not 100% socially. In a way this says a lot about that religion
@@bayremdridi5131 Bangladesh :-) I think in our next generation majority will be non-religious
@@SK-hl7hv Can't be... though I don't care much but sometimes have to pretend that I believe, not with my friends but uncle, aunt you know...
@@mindblowingdiscussions2707 Yeah I agree. Even in countries like Iran and saudi arabia younger generations are beginning to question Islam. However, Muslims who grew up in Western countries are paradoxically becoming more religious, perhaps as a consequence of feeling unwelcomed by the surrounding culture and as a desperate attempt to forge an identity for themselves.
"Why should we tolerate this kind of stuff?" YEEES!!! EXACTLY!!! Thank you. Why? Also, I wish when Gad got asked about what's the solution for these Syrian refugees he said send them to the local neighboring Islamic countries that are really rich. Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, etc.
From the riches that was stolen from their lands I would say every arab has a right to go to the west and get all the help he needs
@@aladdin7387 You know that Filipinos, Pakistanis , Bengalis , Indians , Indonesians also got their riches stolen but they work and manufacture.
You here are making all arabs look bad
The issue is that he didn’t talk about why many people escape their countries to move to the west, most muslims seek refuse in the west because of the mass destruction the USA has caused.
The same question goes back to why should anyone tolerate anything, why should white Americans tolerate the white Americans who are responsible for school shootings, terrorist attacks, violence, being involved in gangs? Should those white Americans be sent back to where there ancestors came from?
@@sarahhassan8559well why would you migrate to a country which has destroyed your country? It's obviously racist towards your people...Wouldn't you move to a country which is much more similar to your own country in culture and faith..
To Joe's final point, most people want to submit to authority. They don't want to have to think for themselves. This is why religion and especially Islam are so successful.
You have to make your own code and submit to that. If you make that code in a moral way, it will usually align with many religious rules... There are definitely exceptions though, which is why you gotta think your own code through and not tolerate the bullshit.
@Tom Hewitt Hahaha!
This is so true. It's a relief for somebody else to do all the thinking. Early exposure to such dominating ideologies also snuffs out the critical faculties of those raised in them, which in turn leads to adults who are unwilling and unable to discuss things rationally
actually Islam wants you to ask questiions. Even in the Quran, God challenges the anyone to to his words.
“Say: ‘If all mankind and the jinn would come together to produce the like of this Quran, they could not produce its like even though they exerted all and their strength in aiding one another.’” (Quran 17:88)
www.iqrasense.com/quran/allahs-challenge-in-the-quran-to-produce-work-similar-to-it.html
@@mikul3122 wait wait it makes somewhat sense what you are saying but you speak of code in a manner..... Are you an npc gone against the system hmm I know a group who can help their called the railroad let me know if you are in need of them
Joe, I admire your show because you bring on diverse perspectives and I thus learn a lot of new things from your show. As such, I think it'd be cool if you brought an actual Muslim on your show. You guys will disagree, but that's exactly what makes the show interesting.
I mean some people might but I think the majority of people wouldn't care. I don't hate Muslims I just think Islam is a very toxic ideology. And I feel the same about Christianity.
mulle
I vouch Muhammad Hijab!
@@liammeaney4227 search up the wisdom behind the laws, you will be surprised how much you'd agree. Look up from mohammad hijab, he's an excellent orthodox intelligent speaker.
@@GodPilledZen I wouldn't be surprised if I did. I'm a fairly conservative person and Islam and a lot of Muslims coming out of the middle East are conservative people. It's not that they're inherently evil and destructive and want to subjugate the West. We're a lot more alike than we are different. Y'all make some bomb ass food And do genuinely have some great contributions to mankind. The Islamic golden age the fascinating thing to read about. The problem I have is when you take fundamentalism in established religion that was started hundreds of years ago and try to implement doctrines unchanged into the modern world. I'm not your enemy and you're not mine And the people on both sides that try to dictate it as such are large part of the problem. The biggest thing that I have coral with is liberty. I know I sound like the quintessential American but the biggest problem I have with Islam is the way that it tends to restrict the freedoms of people when the laws of the religion are made the laws of a nation and when you have people coming from these countries used to having their own homogeneous ideas propagated by the government Of course it's going to be culture shock when they see a gay man in a rainbow flag and a dildo hat walking down the street. And while I do sometimes take issue with a lot of these practices I'm a firm believer that I don't like drag queens around small kids having twerk offs I also have no right to use that as leverage to say these people should be silenced or taken out of the public eye. Debate and counterpoints or of course necessary but that goes for every side
27:20 Amazing - that’s exactly what CAA act in india was all about - the communities at most risk should be front of the line - all liberals in india made a hue and cry blocked Delhi roads for 3 months continuously - tensions peaking when trump visited in feb 2020 - leading to riots and lives of 56 peoples -
The way minorities are treated in Pakistan, Afghanistan (if any left), Bangladesh I'm glad they brought this rule.
Hopefully it'll implemented in whole Nation.
Bro , I am an Indian Muslim and there were many of us who supported CAA. It's just that it became such a propaganda with all the stuff that "Modi will expel all muslims" that everyone got paranoid for the worse.
@@mohammadakramali1466 not an excuse saying it became propaganda. All of you knew the CAA act was necessary but none of the Muslims like you came forward. Even Javed Akhtar kind of atheist said oppose CAA. Shaheen bath was occupied for 4 months and only Covid and 50 lives with riots planning by taheer Husain with petrol bombs etc were needed for you to come and say lot of Muslims supported CAA. shame on you - for creating a scenario that led to inconvenience for shaheen Bach residents for 4 months and several cities in india were doing protests without knowing facts. And all of you people were silent when IsKcon and Durga mandaps were destroyed in Bangladesh - Sikhs were asked to convert in Afghanistan- not one shaheen bagh grandmas came out to protest.
from whom you are listening about Islam in this entire 33.5 minutes show ? From islamophobe Zionist who saw the cultural hatred of his motherland and associating this with Islam , really ? Who said you cannot criticized or raise question about Muslim believe. You all non Muslim should search your doubts about Islam in UA-cam. I argue with each and every sentence of this hypocrite. History is the proof that. Only under the Muslim empire Jewish have flourished and were given shelter from others.
@@mohammadakramali1466 sell out
I love how every Muslim here is saying that they don't know about islam. Bro we know that's why we speaking.
Joe is way too nice about this for a good portion of this clip; almost like he didn't hear what Gad Saad has been saying, almost like he doesn't know about NYC, London, Spain, .... Each country that brings in immigrants MUST protect its own citizens MORE than the immigrants. Hey, I'm an immigrant, born elsewhere, having lived in the US for well over 50 years, so yippy-yay-ay and-all-that good shit for immigrants, but AGAIN: countries need to protect their own aggressively. We should not be expected to tolerate the intolerable (Saad said something like that).
There's a line that many say: I don't agree with what you say but I will fight for your right to say it.
I almost totally agree with this sentiment. Either you're for free speech, thought and belief or not. When someone allies themselves with isil or other extreme groups then they can be banned for sure.
You can be anti immigration all together, that's fair enough, stopping people from entering due to thought-crime is a slippery slope however.
@@masyaf897 Sir, what you wrote is unrelated to what I wrote.
They should take more immigrants and assimilate them. Educate the poor sods and make them give up on baseless faith provided by all religions. With that taint gone, they might be able to contribute more efficiently to the progression of humanity.
London is a city, not a country. There are are many other places in the UK other than London. Many of which are just as influenced by immigration. Birmingham, Leicester, Bradford for example. There are 60 million people in the UK, most of them live outside of London.
It would've been nice to have a Muslim participate in this conversation.
He should've got khabib.
Should've got Mohammed hijab in there
Yes, especially because of the sheer amount of misinformation and bias
Search up Shamsi Hyde park
No it wouldn't
"keep what you left out of your new home" is what Texans tell immigrant Californians all the time now
Oh if only Christopher Hitchens was alive to go on JRE. Scandal and whiskey
Oh if only he was, a joey diaz and Chris Hitchens power hour.
@Real_History_Real_people why was he "cringe"?
@Real_History_Real_people why are athiests "cringe"?
@Real_History_Real_people …That’s silly because Atheist’s will just say that they ‘don’t believe’ in cringe! 🤣🤪
The Hitch was exceptionally articulate.. how was he Cringe lmao
This conversation explains so well what I learned dating a Muslim man and have such a hard time explaining to people. He openly lied to me in the beginning about his beliefs, and it took over a year and a half for him to admit that he hated Jews as a child and was happy to learn about the holocaust, that he did not believe in having dogs inside the house, that he believed in every single letter of the Quran, that he believed gay people should be put to death, that I should be appreciative that he "respected" my religion by "allowing" me to continue to practice it, that he was allowed to question my religion but I could not question his, that criticism of Islam shouldn't be allowed, and that he had the right to tell me what to wear, where to go, and who to see. He told me he kept these things from me in the beginning so I could get "used to it." I could write a whole book about my experiences with this religion and seeing up-close a religion I used to defend, but the thing is that he is a relatively liberal Muslim, and this is how he felt, and he knew that to reveal all of that to me in the beginning would have meant we would not have had a relationship, so he lied. I could say he's just a bad Muslim, but is he? In Islam, the rules about treating others kindly and morally specifically only apply to other Muslims. I can't even begin to explain the hurt I felt realizing I was Najis to him and the people I had gotten to know and care about. But I'm racist for now being afraid of Islam once I've learned so much more about it? I can't even. And my story is so mild compared to others'. God help us.
Dont know if you searched things later or took his words for it..
I am a practicing muslim and i find it all compatible with rational commom ethics..
If you feel Like discussing it, i would
@@A.ayegou I'm sorry, but I can't. I don't want to get too much into a discussion about the specifics because it brings back bad memories for me, as the examples I listed above are only the tip of the iceberg. But yes, I did do my own research after he completely flipped the script on me, and I did not like most of what I saw. I can say that it doesn't necessarily make me believe that you are an unethical person as a practicing Muslim, as I do believe there exist Muslims who are very wonderful people, but my point is that how am I supposed to know a person's true feelings if they believe their religion permits them to lie to me?
@@peonypetal5405 i am sorry, i hope you get better soon and never have to live it again. Just to mention that i know exactly what you mean, because i have been around such people who used to be bad before and after they got religious. Only now they are more in peace doing harm to people..
That is pretty typical from my experience.
This is so terrible 😥😥😥 I can complete understand how sad and experience this would have been. How sad, my heart sinks. And about you being Najis, I thought this concept was only present amongst my former Shia Muslim faith! Pathetic.
“Women have to dress up like beekeepers” ha 😂🤣😂🤣
Joseph Peters
What’s the profile pic bro
Bees and Bacon: the bane of Islamitude.
To keep predators like u away...
@@Somnivers 9 year old*
@Joseph Peters : It’s called Human Oppression.
I am from India and this shit is happening here .
If you can "pick" and "choose" parts of a religion then you're not part of that religion
I'm jewish, i choose to ignore the eating pork part. Then ur not jewish??
Not attacking but i just never understood that logic.
Hypocrites
well it has to do more with the ideas of main sins in your religion which i don't of, it may be the idea that if you don't follow a single part of your religion however trivial or not important it maybe then you become no longer of that religion, his point however tackles the idea that the MAIN purpose of Islam that every muslim has to agree to is these ideas of Islamism & a political state run as a theocracy to be of legitimate purpose, as well as the expansions of Islam, & thus if you do not believe in them you become a non muslim, like how a christian isn't a christian if he doesn't believe in christ.
@@Random-om8rq but that's the problem tho they'll keep sugar coating religion as society grows and develops and it'll match it and then they'll be like LOOK! our religion is this and that and it's not oppressive when in reality most religions indoctrinate in one way or the other
@@BassamMusic you mean the islamists will sugar coat the religion ? they are already do that, that's in fact their purpose, if you however mean the reformers then their approach hasn't proven to be fruitful, simply because of the idea that they can't just lie about their own faith without facing backlash or be labelled as "loonies", this is why i don't think that a possible civil or democratic reform is possible in our countries, we just need a full on dictatorship like Ataturk's Turkey to be able to move on, we have great results in many places before that where autocratic & invasive rule (not seen anywhere else not even KSA or the UAE even though those states are autocratic) into religion to be able to move on, simple basis of this is the idea of the Arab spring that we still see it's failures today with recently Tunisia.
I'm a hindu and I pick and choose whatever I like. That's atleast what a non abrahamic faith grants you, the freedom to explore and choose.
I am Muslim and I walk with my shoes in my house, my family house, my friends house and everywhere. In addition, we pray on grounds where people walked with their shoes on.
Blame the greedy ignorant who chose to use Islam as an excuse to get paid $12000
You ll have to read the case and not form a bias idea of of a website article. I think its more than just shoes.
Connor Tefft No, he won’t get it. You see, believers defend their faith no matter what. They hold it sacred. Way toooo much. Beliefs usually cloud your judgment. We just have to wait for another 200 years to get Islam in a state like current Christianity. They were 500 years late in the game.
I am Muslim and no Muslim prays where the shoes are placed including in the mosques
It's going to be brutal when we finally get to start pushing back
When is that going to be? Cause i have been alive for 29 years and we are still being pushed in a corner!
@@Tacone87 2040. Plus or minus 5 years. Right around the white shift
@@themedic2959 unfortunately i dont think i will be here and if i was i would be to old to participate:/
america is doomed :)
The great cleansing is overdue
I’ve lived In Indonesia in a town with all Muslims and traditional culture, they didn’t cover face, but covered hair. Some want to move to America, I keep telling them that it’s better in their land in terms of their religious beliefs
Where in Indonesia?
So the solution for humanity is to take mushrooms.
And DMT
@@Ali-ro2vv117 lmao
Is to be secular and see another human as human rather than believing that particular person holds lower value to you because of their religion.
They could've just said Donald Trump's line...ban all Muslim immigration. Easy. And even then I think you can make a Constitutional case why Islam should be banned, along the same lines as Nazism and Communism.
If everybody took shrooms, we didnt had wars or religions, only shroomeries
At 33-33 perfect answer. I escaped from a communist country and did not expect to have Marxist schools and such. In fact I was well screened in those more sensible times.
The Liberals have nothing to sell anymore as most of people don't care about gays/race/feminism so they are importing voters from 3rd world countries to get elected.
33:33
You can choose one of two options:
1) Be compassionate to strangers from the 3rd world and let them in becoming the 3rd world down the line
2) Be compassionate to your countrymen / your future children and stop the flow of 3rd world immigration securing their future
The very society people in the West enjoy will no longer exist if we keep importing Muslims and those from other different cultures. Especially the 3rd world. Europeans have more similar (often secular and Christian) values that allows them to integrate into society. So drawing a comparison to the founding of the US with 3rd world immigration is intellectually dishonest. Unity is strength. Not diversity.
Unity is strength but stagnates without diversity. In the same way the uniformity of communist cultures stagnates. Mass immigration is silly, but slow immigration is okay. (Or open the doors to the world but ask them to pay for themselves this is is where true prosperity comes from)
Letholdus Aurelius you should worry more about the Jews
3) stop bombing them 3rd world nations
LMAO. I can't tell if you genuinely believe that, but I do believe you're ignorant.
@@rlucas7374 What? Are you stupid? That doesn't take away from the fact these countries are getting invaded, bombed and killing off their leaders?
Like yeah, these countries had horrible dictators, but at least they were within their own countries doing it to their own people.
It's way worse off now than it was then and the cause are foreign countries. And now the foreign countries are making Muslims and Islam out to be the enemy. It's a little baffling. These Islamic terrorist organizations you see today were all originally funded by foreign governments and then left alone to grow and become what it is.
You're so ignorant that you don't see that the government has CREATED this discourse. People like you that fear Islam are a product of what they want.
They want to invade these Islamic countries, take their resources and at the same time keep getting their citizens (you) to hate Islam and hate their countries.
You are a byproduct of all this. Now, I think these Islamic terrorists are wrong. I think they don't care about Islam either, I think they want money and power and they use Islam. Because if they really cared about Islam, they wouldn't be killing more Muslims than anyone else.
This is sooo double standards, I’m not a Muslim but hearing this didn’t make sense. Felt like he was kinda sad and angry with the religion himself but is clarifying it with fancy words.
Is this the episode spotify has just removed? Where can I watch full episode?
Every system holds the seeds of its own demise. We are open and tolerant to the extent that we can't do but welcome in and tolerate the intolerants.
Just goes to show that "tolerance," much like "diversity" or "inclusivity" is not always an inherently good thing, even though that's the narrative the Left always peddles. Tolerance (in most contexts that its used in political discourse) just means moral and cultural relativism. People often forget that a culture or civilization is defined just as much by what they DON'T tolerate as they are by what they tolerate.
Stupid people don't necessarily reflect the system they think they are describing. The U.S. has explicit values that must be accepted by all residents. The U.S. only strives for reasonable tolerance -- i.e. clearing away arbitrary differences like ethnicity in order to show people real values like material progress and civil cooperation to achieve real advancements to the quality of human life, like technological inventions, medicine, etc, as opposed to superstitious nonsense.
@@johannpopper1493
The U.S. has explicit values that *theoretically* should be accepted by all residents, but are not. They are not even universally accepted/shared among native born Americans. Among foreign people, they are usually only reluctantly accepted (if at all), and are constantly being tested and framed as a form of oppression. Inundate the country year after year with millions of people with totally different values, and the system collapses. That's the whole problem with importing culturally incompatible population groups. Cultural relativism is moral relativism. Open borders equals open values. Culture and values are linked, and culture is strongly correlated to ethnicity. Hence, ethnicity is NOT arbitrary at all when it comes to migration. It is only in the West that we pretend it doesn't matter for fear of social repercussions. Also, the idea of "reasonable" tolerance is subjective. My version is likely far different than yours.
@@SonoftheAllfather It's because the west is taking the wrong approach at integrating migrants, take a look at multicultural and multiethnic countries like Singapore are doing. It's one of the richest countries and the world and has the lowest crime rate in the world and no ghettos thanks to their public housing.
@@bayron45
Singapore is extremely authoritarian and to quell ethnic conflict, they mandated that English be spoken as a universal language. I have been to Singapore when I was in the military, and it's the only place I've ever been that has signs at the airports saying the penalty for drug smuggling is death. And I've been to some horrible countries. We shouldn't have to live in an authoritarian dictatorship just so we can be multicultural/multiethnic. They are arguably not even multicultural, only multiethnic.
Multiethnic states can exist, but only if there is a dominant uncompromising monoculture that incoming groups willfully and even joyfully embrace. Multiculturalism doesn't work, and America's dominant ethnocultural majority is under outright hostile attack. Most new immigrants do not want or need to adapt, and more and more people and cultural institutions either do not expect them to adapt or outright discourage them from adapting. The obstacle of having a multiethnic state is that every ethnicity has their own culture that they instinctually desire to preserve. If aspects of that culture are incompatible with the host culture and adaptation is discouraged, it will cause serious problems.
In earlier waves of immigration, the expectations were totally uncompromising and there was way more social and economic incentive for migrants to adapt. There was no welfare state. The schools and cultural institutions did not adapt to the migrants, the migrants adapted to them. And those migrants were far more similar (racially, culturally, religiously, etc.) than the newer groups that are immigrating now. Some groups are just way too different, and are even hostile towards the West as a whole. How can we expect those people to be positive additions to our countries given all these circumstances?
So our countries are not just failing at integrating migrants, globalists (who hold basically all the power) are deliberately undermining the possibility of immigration even being a potentially positive thing. They are weaponizing it and making it totally destructive for the nation state, and that is the whole point. They don't want nation states to exist.
So really, the problem is more complicated, and is due to a series of globalist lies. Globalist/leftist lies will be the undoing of this experiment. Their cultural relativism, their attacks on integration standards, their attacks on traditional culture...all of it is designed to destroy the United States as we know it.
As a muslim I 100% agree with the notion of leaving non spiritual aspect of islam back in the land you migrated from. It blows my mind that those people are trying to recreate the nightmare they escaped from.
Lol what? Do you even understand why we are leaving our countries? Do you actually believe people willingly leave their homes and everything behind? There was no ISIS or Al-Qaeda before the US invasion of Iraq, surprising? No, it isn't. All the problems in the middle east has been caused by west and British colonialism. If these western countries don't want Muslim refugees then they should stop creating them! Fairly simple solution correct? It's embarrassing that as a Muslim yourself you fail to understand that. It's mandatory for every Muslim (male and female alike) to obtain knowledge, clearly that is what you are in need of. JazākAllāhu Khairan. Allāhumma Barik.
Amen
@@rl5382 India was colonized by UK. Why are they doing so great now then?
You are a muslim? Really? Muslim by tradition? Islam is not a tradition it's a religion which you should study if you claim to be a muslim.
What do you actually know about the religion of Islam?
@@katiawojcik962 \muslims will always defend their religion no matter what the facts, and thats dangerous
Born muslim lived in a muslim country for 30 year I never heard about “shoes not allowed” thing maybe in a mosque other then that its bs thing
The fact that this Gad Saad did not tell Joe rogan that prohibiting a woman from driving, or entering a home with shoes on has nothing to do with Religion at all. This is called Culture. Just so you know this Guy a Jewish talking about islam. If i were Him I would have talked about Fanatic Jewish that says using a phone is a sin, putting up picture is a sin ect… wake up
I am an ex-Muslim. I was having an argument with my sister who asserted that Christians denounce those among them who marry Muslims and punish them, and I said no that is not true and asked for evidence. I said there are hundreds of Christian sects and denominations who have differences in doctrine and understanding of the scripture, and that the belief system and practices of these sects differ significantly. So, while there might be a small sect of Christians who do denounce their members for marrying Muslims, there are no overarching authoritative narrative that compelles all Christians to do so.She said there is no need for evidence, and My father jumped in the discussion and said that Christian is faith rejected by God and that they believe in three gods. I said that is simply not true and as I tried to explain why this is false my father told me that I should shut up because I am countering Quranic claims. I was so frustrated because It is really gut wrenching and outright insulting when you deprive someone the right to express his views, and then go on to claim that you have sole knowledge of the ultimate truth. Unfortunately the majority of Muslims are like this. They start their argument by claiming something that has no bases in reality and when you try to counter their assertion they will simply put fingers in their ears and shut you down. Worse, and often in many cases if they detect that you are even mildly non-Islamic they start to vilify you and socially ostracize you. Basically, there is no value and rescue for evidences which is the mark of a rational and constructive argument. And when you demand evidence for their assertions they bring Quran as a testament, yet I say to them that members of other faiths do not acknowledge the credibility and authenticity of the Quran as the word of God and that using the Quran to validate their claims about Quranic verses is circular reasoning.
I absolutely concur with everything you said! Cuz am also from a Muslim Family, I feel you .
So you believe in christianity, even though scuentifically its flawed?
For example, in the book of genises, 1st page, god created night and day BEFORE he created the sun. Scientific fallacy. You cannot have night and day without a Sun.
Then he created the earth. You cannot have night and day before you have earth. Where was in night and day? In space?
Thats on the 1st page of the bible, book of genesis. And still you follow it?
There is no such a thing as xmuslim huh?
@@leetaaprayzaanio4751 I don’t believe in Christianity, but what you hear in the Muslim world about Christians is outright false and is intended to dehumanize them, so I thought that I need to clear some misconceptions.
@@leetaaprayzaanio4751 pisslam copied Old Testament
"Some sensibilities are more equal than others."
Nice Orwellian nod.
Great interview, Joe.
@libertyjusticeforal1 ISLAM IS NOT A RACE
@libertyjusticeforal1 critcizing Islam doesnt mean you hate muslims. Wtf you mean maybe not, Islam is not a race
@libertyjusticeforal1 lol no its not, opposing islam is not the same thing as saying ALL MUSLIMS
@@omarthescriblomale8279 Criticizing Nazism means you hate Germans
@@rexsceleratorum1632 We are no Nazis by the way
You can't have it all, there is always an opportunity cost!
Sounds hypocritical to say “let’s have an honest discussion” yet never invite a Muslim with the ability to discuss these matters on your podcast
Your right
@oana gabriela I'm not muslim but can you show me the verse in which it says having sex slaves is ok.
@Bill Bows I see where you are coming from, but that doesn't mean his interpretation is accurate. There are commentaries from credible sources and scholars that accurately interprets the meaning behind the texts, provided they give evidence for their basis. For example, I can't take the US law system and interpret it any way I want to - there are procedures, precedents, evidence, etc. that are utilized to pass judgement and so on.
like who?
@@rb9888 Well Shaykh Uthman ibn Farooq from @onemessagefoundation would be a great candidate to interview. He's from San Diego and has plenty of videos on UA-cam from several topics.
I would really love to see you have this conversation with Firas Zahabi, Joe.
Lol
Zahabi believes in a fairytale what is there to discuss?
Dear dad naaa I’ve read the hadiths. There’s nothin more delusional than ppl in the 21st century believing that their pedophile prophet Muhammad. FLEW TO THE MOON ON A HORSE...:and then split it 🤦♂️ yea ok who’s delusional
@@NYBEATZ3 wat religion do u follow?
Dear dad nice try my uncle is an Imaam he couldn’t tell me shit when I came at him wit these scriptures get the fuk out of here. If I was his son he would’ve killed me told me that straight up foh
Gad Saad let there be light.
... fuckin' nice, dude.
Alekai kek
Jokes like this make Gad Saad.
The Europeans abandoned the God of the Bible.
Europe should return to God=Yahweh.
ויהי אור
Funny that Gad said that the refugees should leave all there values and identity at the door. Last time I checked, he's Jewish and vehemently uses it as a victim card.
Well said, as long as he practice his religion/traditione.
I’ve talked to people who don’t even follow Islam strictly in other words they live a life of haram and yet they say that Islam is perfect, Quran is perfect and that’s where the problem comes from. If someone who doesn’t even follow it strictly coz they’re “weak” is so against saying that maybe their religion or any religion is outdated and not perfect that’s toxic and that’s what invites violence.
If i immigrate to Spain
or any other country,
I do that because i like the country, the people, the culture, it's nature, the traditions,
the language, their values, their architecture, their history and their kitchen.
If i immigrate to Spain
I want to make sure i won't damage, hurt or change (to a certain degree)
anything of the countries identity that made me want to go to Spain in the first place.
If i immigrate to Spain
I want to be considered a Spaniard. I want to earn my passport and carry it with pride.
Although I would never fully apprehend the Spanish language, i will do at least my very best.
I would make sure I have basic knowledge of their history, their costums and their politics.
If i immigrate to Spain
I want to make sure my ideas of politics, values and religion are not complete opposite.
Otherwhise i should learn to addapt or find a better suited country for my willings.
If i immigrate to Spain
I would want to partake in their festivities, social garderings, traditions and be present amongst their people.
So I could gain their respect and not be an outsider.
If i immigrate to Spain
I have chosen Spain as my new first country and in times of war I will fight on their side.
If i immigrate to Spain
I'm no longer a member of society in the Netherlands. Therefore i don't feel like i have the right
to use my dutch vote and be responsible for changes that doesn't effect me but will effect all others in the Netherlands
If i immigrate to Spain
And excel in sports on a proffesional level, i would want to show my grattitude and play for the flag of Spain during the Olympics.
If i immigrate to Spain
I for sure wouldn't use the democracy in this country to support the dictatorship in another country.
If i immigrate to Spain
I know things will be hard in the beginning. Immigration is hard. But i will not hold the Spannish people responsible.
I will work hard and make sure i don't represent the majority of the countries criminality.
If i immigrate to Spain
and i represent the majority of the countries criminality and the majority of the lower income households, i will not call out for racism
if i get more then regular pulled over in my expensive car. I understand the police should work according to evidences, statistics, studies and sciences.
I will be co-operative and show that i'm a good citizen. I will make sure i won't help the reputation of foreigners in Spain further down the drain.
If i immigrate to Spain
I will not be offended if they call me the Dutchmen. I'm proud of my heritage and i understand men distinguishes people according to their characteristics.
I understand they don't mean to offend me and i won't call out for racism.
If i immigrate to Spain
As a dutchmen, I wouldn't want my people to be the majority in a Spanish city. I migrated to Spain and not to the Netherlands.
I should always be the minority.
If i immigrate to Spain
I should be allowed to use my mother tongue in private and public territory. But i understand that i should speak Spanish to the best of my capability
during work hours. Even if my collegues are dutch as well.
If i immigrate to Spain
I should be allowed to keep my own dutch traditions. But I won't force it on the Spanish people by driving through the streets of Barcelona,
honking and screaming while waving my dutch flag hanging outside of the car.
If i fled to Spain
because of war or any other inhumane circumstances in my own country, i should pay uttermost respect to Spain
and i will be thankfull for any little help coming my way. For any situation is better then i had before.
If i'm allowed to stay, i will owe Spain my life and i will act accordingly. I will follow all the above listed terms and be a good citizen.
If i immigrate to Spain
I will keep Spain, Spain
I will keep Europe, Europe.
I will keep the richness of all Europe's cultures intact.
We don't want to lose what makes us great.
Why would anyone want to immigrate to spain lol
@@username-ek1kd or any other country ;) Spain is an example. Beautiful country tho :P
@Tom Harry I dont care about history. This is what we should do in this time of age.
@Tom Harry because the present is happening now :p
I agree with u
I’d love to see you bring a Muslim scholar on your show
He will bring in Elizabeth Olsen soon
Mohammed Hijab would be perfect 👌🏽
And what purpose would it serve? One confirmation bias after another.
Azhari Arif: Better to just have a one sided confirmation bias? Good thing about Rogan is he brings in anyone to share their views.
@@haroonsadiq4319 If you invite Muslim Scholar he's going to Sugarcoat every single answer so what's the point?
The guest obviously lost a fight or two in Lebanon ..
hahaha hezbollash was like ✋
@Jamal Ture - Excellent Islamist deflection - blame the victim of Mohammedan violence for "losing a fight or two"!
@@wiseonwords What?
the southern part to be exact
His parents did a very wise thing in feeling Lebanon. At the time it was still a majority Christian country - the only one in the Middle East.
Now it’s become a living hell, as Christians have been emigrating in large numbers. What a shame. It was such an amazing country. Besides Israel, Dubai and perhaps Istanbul, it was one of the few places in the Middle East where you would experience the kinds of freedom that we in the west take for granted.
And it’s all gone to waste because of war and corrupt elites
Those elites are Christians
@@hizbutahrirusa The country is led by Christians, Sunni and Shiite Muslims. So no, all three have elites that have profited at the expense of the people
?? did you just site isreal as a free society? a fucking settler colonist state? A country built on modern day land theft and ethnic cleansing?? Also dubia and turkey are far from being by any western standard as "free".
@@mohammedraheef1415 look at India, 80 million indians were killed over a century.
You can make colonizer claims all day
@@natecarroll1779 ? what are you referring to? you autist
When it came to Judaisim the discusssion went so smooth.
Yea lol as if they are afraid to call out jews for its crime in Palestine
@@johnnyoz5878 We wouldn't want Joe to lose his 100 Million Dollars contract with Spotify now would we. Nothing worse than a smooth talker with an agenda to hide the truth. Joe Rogan, I for one won't miss your podcasts when shift out of youtube.
@human being on earth i'm more surprised how stupid you are to say Islam stole from judaisim
Quran: Allah claims.all universe n quran torah gospel were all sent by me 1 god.
Islam believes theres only 1 god.for all.
@@adrianaadnan7704 I can bring verses from the bible that are so brutal and just disgusting.
and you know shit about Islam 👍
I love Joe's answer to all the problems of religion. "Drugs, psychedelic drugs. Everyone gets on mushrooms".
Try tmrmttttt
from whom you are listening about Islam in this entire 33.5 minutes show ? From islamophobe Zionist who saw the cultural hatred of his motherland and associating this with Islam , really ? Who said you cannot criticized or raise question about Muslim believe. You all non Muslim should search your doubts about Islam in UA-cam. I argue with each and every sentence of this hypocrite. History is the proof that. Only under the Muslim empire Jewish have flourished and were given shelter from others
This was such a great conversation!
as a native american this talk hit home hard. it certainly can happen everywhere.
At least colonialism was an improvement.
Need to see Mufti Menk on the show
Oh that preposterous piece of shit. He's fake as fuck, just like all those sheikhs or whatever they're called.
@@freepatriot9070 Surely you would want someone to be exposed on the show then? No?
@@adeebhussain8484 He's all over UA-cam. He does a pretty good job of exposing himself. Only simpletons would need to have a known con artist exposed for them.
@@freepatriot9070 so whats the issue with Joe Rogan having a go? Lol
@@adeebhussain8484 Coz there is no need. The guy has got nothing of value to offer to the audience.
As a Muslim from Egypt interning house with your shoes is not a problem and we do it everyday
t. g g This is just too ridiculous to listen to. I also am a Muslim and occasionally wear shoes in my house. Plenty of people don’t wear shoes in the house most of the time.
@@ummuhajar558 yes it is those people are given us bad reputation
@@borizzle1 i believe that we are all equal and we will be judged equally
If you read the original article, the landlord did not knock while entering and the wife did not have time to dress properly. That’s how they won the lawsuit. Wasn’t even about the shoes.
and what exactly does interning house involve???
Im very jealous of joe rogan..he gets to talk to smart ppl all day every day
Also it’s important to note that the people migrating here, went to great troubles and they have acknowledged that they are going to a foreign place where they are not a majority religion wise or ethnically and they have to deal with that and the struggles that come with, Doing a survey of people in Syria and Syrians in the west would completely change the results of the survey.
Also important to note, if swarms of people from Western countries were fleeing to the middle east to seek sanctuary, you'd see how tolerant and nice we have been compared to the reception we'd receive.
@@rnw2739 💯
Autocorrect wants me to say “had salad” instead of Gad saad. Haha
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This is the million dollar comment right here 🤘😆
Well, I could use a million dollars😂
Yes everyone has had salad
“Dress up like bee keepers” lmao
Thats not forced in Islam to dress like that, just so you know.
Its true
@Jr no its not they are forced in Saudi Arabia not in islam
The tradition began as a way to keep cool in deserts and be safe in sandstorms. Respect other cultures, and keep those other cultures out of the usa. We're much better armed than terrorists.
Saudia Arabia is too extreme even on Islamic standards
This guy dropped 110% facts on the matter, I'm someone who spent a lot of time learning about Islam from authentic sources not western. I consider Sufis to be my brothers and sisters ;but there's a faction that is to Islam what the Roman Empire is to Christianity. Empires literally went nowhere they just changed their clothes ;but continued with standard operating procedure. True Islam is of the Light and beautiful Gnosticism.
Are you sure? Please watch Apostate Prophet who is an ex Sufi Muslim.
Gnosticism?
Sufism is extremely violent. Read about the Indian experience with Sufism. They have a few popular cultural aspects to them - but they are also absolutely brutal.
@@fangdog29 I prefer Sufis to Sikhs for sure. they're far more violent than Sufis by a long shot! We're talking about people that practice honor killings and kill off daughters....
@@viklondon3466hilarious using that joke as a source every single one of his videos can and have been very easily debunked. what happened to going to an actual learned person or the source directly instead of those very obviously making careers out of their bias and hatred.
a video we should all watch, listen and consider. To me wise words...
I worked with a lot of east africans and middle-eastern individuals who were Muslim - they were very adamant in their faith and would seek out discussion with people to compare, contrast, and in many cases in the work place even - to inflame a situation or discussion especially when they were met with equanimity, facts, and accurate-as-can-be-managed historical observation.
I learned a little somali and learned the arabic alphabet so I could understand what they were saying, and bridge gaps - BUT - no matter what, I was adaank-ka, the "White guy" but it was humanizing in its own way for me to call them "medo-ga" "Black guy" in their own language. They invited me to eat with them during Ramadan when they broke their fasts, I got to know their relatives - they were mostly decent folks, but when you brought up the religion it was MUCH more fervent and powerfully charged than you would ever expect.
It is not racist to observe and comment - because if it that is the case then what they are saying is that their cultural identity and religion is more important than their personhood/humanity.
from whom you are listening about Islam in this entire 33.5 minutes show ? From islamophobe Zionist who saw the cultural hatred of his motherland and associating this with Islam , really ? Who said you cannot criticized or raise question about Muslim believe. You all non Muslim should search your doubts about Islam in UA-cam. I argue with each and every sentence of this hypocrite. History is the proof that. Only under the Muslim empire Jewish have flourished and were given shelter from others.
@@tareqalome4015 Labels are nifty little things, aren't they? If I label you something, it immediately puts you into a box and means that I don't have to listen to you or consider your opinion because you are part of enemy group an "other." Labeling diminishes the effectiveness of the conversation.
I have heard about Islam from young men training to be Imams. I have heard about Islam from immigrants trying to adjust. I have heard about Islam from friends, from family and from people from all walks of life. I stand by my observation.
It’s the exact same way with the religious Jews who also believe in a political aspect but nobody ever mentions them just Muslims. The reason Christians aren’t like this is because they believe the laws were abolished
@@Dvlly99 Christians have certain doctrines and rules. Which do not interfere with how custom their societies are
@@mountaindew3201 yes, which means you follow man made laws for society and only keep Christianity in the house. No wonder atheists took control of the Christian world and brought degeneracy to your ancestors
Thank you Gad Saad for speaking some sense.
Horseshit
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Lies
The thing that most of these conversations fail to address is Israel who has just as discriminatory practices and ideology, and who has a massive influence on the world.
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Ok but this conversation isnt about israel. That's a bit like me commenting on a cookery video saying 'why is nobody talking about israel'. Plenty of conversations are being had over israel, just watch those
I totally agree with you
@@alfieharries I disagree but thanks for your input
Massive influence on the world? You mean in the scientific, medical, technological, and military world? Probably. Definitely not religiously. I think you fail to realize that Judaism is an ethnoreligion so it’s not just a religion but an ethnicity. Also I think you don’t really know much about the history of Jews in this region particularly Mizrahi Jews. Mizrahi Jews were kicked out of Arab states and places in what is the modern state of Israel by Jordan during this time also. There were actually more Jewish refugees than Palestinians. Also Jews were willing to share the land since the beginning. The 1948 war was started by the surrounding Arabs and Palestinians not Jews. Land was also offered in numerous peace deals that the Palestinians rejected. Also practices that are considered discriminatory were put in place after wars and the second intifada for safety measures. I don’t think you would like it if your clubs, buses, restaurants, and schools were getting blown up by suicide bombers. I don’t think you would like if you were driving on the road and then you were shot at or thrown bricks at. I don’t think you would like it if there were multiple stabbing attempts a week because the government of the region next to you has a pay for slay policy where anybody who kills one of your people gets a pension. I don’t think you would like it if people in your country were getting kidnapped and killed. I don’t think you would like if thousands of rockets were launched at cities in your home country and the international world expects you to do nothing because you have more power. I also don’t think you would feel safe if you lived next door to a jihadist terrorist group that has in their charter that they want to hunt and kill all of your people in the world. I also don’t think you would like it if people tried to revise history to erase your connection to a particular land when genetics, history, archeology, linguistics, and culture proves that you are indigenous not solely religion. Btw the creators of the modern movement of Zionism were secular and so are many Israelis. We actually come from this land that’s why it’s important not solely based on religion so your input is inaccurate.
"most Muslims are good people"
Yeah even most afghan people are good people
Most Iranians are good people
And still in Muslim majority countries there is homophobia, opression against women, minorities, atheists ....
So this argument is useless, even in Nazi Germany most people were kind and good people, the thing is, when you have an opressive ideology being followed by the majority of people (like Islam), then you will have an opressive country even if most of those people aren't radical.. and the left knows that they already use this approach against the right, for example they say the united states has a white supremacy culture despite that most American people aren't explicit racists but they have subconscious bias, that's their logic against the right, but when it comes to Muslims they say most Muslims are good people therefore Islam is a religion of peace and the only problem is with a small minority of radicals
All of these things happen in countries like Russia as well - homophobia etc etc
@@RS-ti7bz
1st, there is no Russian mass immigration into the west, so "Russian culture" is not an issue for the west
2nd, Muslims are the most religious people on earth, they take their religion seriously and believe in literal interpretation, most Muslims think that being gay is being a pervert and should be prevented, the same thing if you're an atheist or ex Muslim
@@hayatcode2975 the mass migration that today is happening is coming form north Africa,Syria,afganistan and from South America to mostly europe and to a little extent america.guess whats common in all those countries these countries were going well then america thought let me send some freedom bombs there and destabilize the the countries.problems in muslims countries you pointed out like homophobia is common all around the world,women right issues are only in some countries with patriarchal societies, every country has minority issues and making it like only due is islam is just naive of you.america has killed 1 million iraqis on basis of some BS.get your act together before lecturing others
@@evonerfin3 nah I disagree.
I am Arab and I lived in both worlds in an arab country and in Europe, minorities rights, women rights, LGBT, anti racism is way better in the west compared to Muslim countries, and I'm not talking about governments only but also the people, in Muslim countries about 70 % at least of people believe that gays are dirty animals that should be at least put in jail or killed, the same goes for atheists or ex Muslims many of them believe that they should be killed or put in jail.
So there is a big difference, when the left says that all cultures are the same they make me laugh, no they aren't the same, there are shitty countries around the world if you compare them to the west then the west would be heaven, in united states you can't even find a single public figure which attacks gays, sure there are homophobic individuals but they are a minority that's why we don't see anyone being homophobic publicly and explicitly, in Muslim countries it's a totally different story, in Muslim countries if you say on tv things like gays are perverts and should be punished it's a totally accepted and respected point of view, in fact the majority of them agree that homosexuals are sick and perverts and consider it as a sin, I can tell you about many examples regarding many issues, for example it's a wide accepted idea that a woman must be obedient to her husband, while in the west that's a minority idea even most Christians Don't believe those to things anymore
@@hayatcode2975 i am muslim dude and i don't agree with western values and gender dysphoria keep it in your countries don't send it here about muslims immigrating there don't destabilize countries and people won't to be desparate to come there to to save their lives. Also america just accepts 100000 people a year and you are making a too much issue of that as muslims aren't half of this figure!
I would love to see someone talk about the invasion of Zionism.
That is true. But this doesn't make it less true that muslims do not want to get integrated in the countries where they go as immigrant.
Grt124 Z Yes you have some people like that. But what’s the definition of integration to some? When a women wears a hijab, does that mean she doesn’t want to fit in?
Jonny Stash Holly fuck! I guess you have no clue what Zionism is and how it has taken over America and the Christians.
@@mcloathin3354 zionislam
@@stevebergman4587 and how has it?
Spent a month in India a ways back to see the sights (beautiful and wild country btw). Everywhere that I went in India I would visit the local museums and ruins to study the culture. Without fail at every site I went to the faces of all of the god statues and carvings were broken off. Without fail the locals blamed Muslims for destroying their artifacts and relics. The Mughals built some amazing Citadels in that country, greater than any European castle I have seen but they attempted to destroy the local culture everywhere they went.
Darthenator
Is that what that is? I always assumed there was a black market where these are sold.
A lot in Cambodia has been defaced. I also noticed missing faces in a cathedral in Germany
Dissident Thoughts
It’s also what every culture does lol... go to the pub of a rival football team in your own country, wearing your team’s colours.
It just so happens that Muslim culture isn’t desirable - I agree. But it’s wise to look at it as a human-collectively universal trait
Dissident Thoughts
Apologies, I forgot which thread I was replying to. In this context you are right - our (current) culture tends to value preservation of history, a kind of respect to any way of life that preceded us. Islam seems uniquely hell-bent on utter destruction of ‘false history’
@@Bluudclaat So of all the cultures in the world, which is responsible for more gentrification in this regard, of destroying national monuments - European or Arabic? We can all play dumb and act like "everyone is good And nice and sweet" other we can actually look at history objectively and say that the hoards of the Monghul were one of the most exclusively destructive forces to co-opt any other region. At least when Europeans ruled in India, they didn't force the natives to change their belief and native culture.
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Sorry, I don’t really get what you’re asking me or provoking me to think about 🤔. Can you rephrase?
Psychadelics! everyone gets on mushroom!! 💯🍄
Great interview
Canada seems just awful these days
I listened, and there are so many things wrong with what Gad says. But I kinda understand why he feels the way he does. Islam as a 'doctrine' is to embrace and be tolerant of 'the other'.
The problem is those leaders that are supposed to advocate the religion. Personal biases bleed into thier public speeches and then gives Islam a bad rap.
Let's not forget, its the US that seem to invade these predominantly Muslim countries (in talking to you Cheney!) and piss them off.
@@nokhez so please tell us where he is wrong!.
Hey @@Tigo625 have you read the Quran? I have. Human Life is so valuable, and to kill the innocent god completely against the tennets of my values, and millions of others.
Been reading the comments, and jeez, so much anger on both sides. And it's our leaders that are hustling all of us. While they count thier dollar bills, they watch us go at it.
Hi @@adlerbr12, well at 6.52, he's using a quote from the Taliban and using in a context that that's what's all muslims want. Forgive the pun, but speaking for myself... Ain't nobody got time for no conquering! I just want to get to work on time!
He's suggesting that all muslims want to integrate Islam into society. Wrong.
Wherever Muslims live on this planets must abide by the laws of that land.
But I do agree that the conversation does open up and is a conversation that should be had with politeness and empathy.
Above all else, we'll always have re-runs of The Golden Girls. And the theme tune is actually quite pertinent to the conversation too!
@@nokhez It's not "your leaders" that propagate "radical" Islam, it's people like you, who claim that the radicals are not only the minority, but the false Muslims. The truth, however, is that they are the true followers of Mohammed and you are just rubble that happens to help their cause.
Make sure you tolerate their intolerance.
Just goes to show that "tolerance," much like "diversity" or "inclusivity" is not always an inherently good thing, even though that's the narrative the Left always peddles. Tolerance (in most contexts that its used in political discourse) just means moral and cultural relativism. People often forget that a culture or civilization is defined just as much by what they DON'T tolerate as they are by what they tolerate.
you can't be too tolerant or you stand for nothing. I often see my Christian co-workers/friends go clubbing and have sex and on Saturday night go to church on Sunday morning then go have out of marriage sex again that evening it's like some Christians are so tolerant to everything like I assumed if the book you believe in says not to do something you would comply if you believe in it. same way you got gay pastors and stuff I'm not homophobic or anything but it's not something I would do or agree with on a personal level but people can do what they want. that's beside the point the bible refutes that but I still see gay pastors. it's like they change the religion to conform to society whereas Muslims unapologetically conform society to the religion. I don't see people with stronger faith than Muslims take it how you will. tolerance is not always a good thing now we got transmen in women's sports due to our "tolerance" and now that tolerance is killing women's sports.
@@ibrahimhassan711 done with your stupidity??
When has a muslim ever forced his belief on you.
@@dannyduds1058 Not enough numbers in Western countries yet to enact Sharia.
Very nicely articulated
It’s weird how joe would say that the left in general doesn’t allow anyone to criticize islam even though it’s “regressive” in front of a jew when Jewish people created a whole term that makes you a criminal if you decide to criticize them or their religion the hypocrisy.
I watched all that for joe to tell me the answer is to take mushrooms
It is! Enough of them!
Gad:"So what do we do? What, what's your..what's your-"
Joe: "Drugs, psychedelic drugs. everyone gets on mushrooms, and I'm NOT kidding. Like really, I really think you need transcendent experiences to escape from the day-to-day vibration of normal life."
This was an incredible interview and some extremely well-thought out points were made by both of these guys. I couldn't agree more.
Mashrooms turn u back to you but better you
this was the farthest you can get from "well thought out points" 95% from it was complete horse shit, i'd explain but i'm too tired so you have google , or you can search in the comments for someoone to to explain it, good luck
Go do drugs then
Joe Rogan should bring a Islamist to discuss Islamism. Most of the time Islam is discussed on the show, it is from atheist or from people who clearly hates it. Maybe JR should also try to find the behind the story of Islamist.
I wish Joe Rogan would have Hamza Yusuf a true muslim scholar.