Jocko... from a cop. To hear you talk about us like this literally brought tears to my eyes. I beg you... beg you to speak to law makers. Please. Your point of view matters, ours doesn't anymore. Thank you for your service and everything else you do.
I hope you read this message. My family and I support you. I have met police that are really good people. I considered joining after the army. I intrinsically want to help and protect people that need it. I know many join for the same reason.
@@josephjohn7209 more training and education is good for everyone regardless of skin race and class. the government can remove money from other places to put into the community and teachers. you cant cut one education and put it in another place and say the problem is fixed education its self has to be funded and taken seriously. It's like filling a leaking pipe with a piece of gum that's filling another hole. the problem is getting rid of those luxury items and replacing the pipe with a new pipe which is always way cheaper than that luxury item
Your voice does matter. You have to speak at the polls, or go to Washington and get involved. You can vote for things to be better, but you'll have to vote red.
I've heard many people and even police departments such as the NYPD have taken a huge stance on community policing. It's the way to go and it's definitely not being swept under the rug.
His real name is John. Seals and navy pilots all have "handles" , nicknames. They usually get a nickname early in their navy career. Usually during initial training. I'm a retired Navy Master Chief so I not blowing up your skirt.
As ex-military, who was part of the fire service in our military this is so true. We constantly trained for situations weekly, daily in some instances. We would have a whole week of training in a 4 week work routine. As well as do various training exercises whilst on duty. Training constantly helps you focus for a situation as it arises. Yes there are are factors that can effect the situation but you can prepare so much better for a situation. It allows you moments of clarity to allow you to adapt.
Easy to do in the military when your whole purpose is to be an unused deterrent force so all you have is free time. Hard to do for a police force for a locality where people are being killed every single day and taking cops off of patrol to train in jujitsu or something can mean the difference between someone being murdered or the police responding in time.
Jocko, I’m a recently retired cop served 25 years. I now train cops in a peer support, officer wellness program like the issues you discuss. We train them to be active bystanders with their fellow cops over their career. Taking a stand and helping each other through the tough times in an effort to stop misconduct and potential litigation. Let’s work together! You rock. Thanks Joe!
There should be a time where a rookie is given a training set, and is escorted to a training Sim with limited information, and that is the the initial emotional test to see if they're mature and qualified for the position
I'm a Correction Officer and a Combat Infantry Veteran of oif. I also spent nearly 10 years in the private sector. I've been saying for years that departments need more training. It needs to be a Priority. Also, Jocko's absolutely correct about the mindset.
@CodingCrusader1095 Actually, the government LOSES MONEY, for every inmate incarcerated for canibus charges, as does the tax payer. I honestly wish they'd go ahead and legalize it everywhere, so we can invest our resources into stopping actual violent criminals.
@CodingCrusader1095 That is A MYTH. Quit propagating Lies. Even grants which they qualify for don't affect profits. It has to be spent on improving the dept.
@@chivalrousjackcorrect me if I'm wrong, but oif is Operation enduring freedom right? The American Invasion into Iraq to look for weapons of mass destruction. A couple of people I watch such as Zach hazard from The Mikeburnfire Channel had served in the same theater.
As a former cop, in my 4 years, we did no...i repeat NO mandatory combatives training. I did fine with combative encounters because of 4 years of high school wrestling. but tried to get cop buddies to come train...they wouldn't do it. They didn't want their ego to take a hit. I remember certain cops screaming out of the radio in distress when someone mildly resisted them. They had no idea what to do in a situation where someone didn't do what they said, let alone actually tried to fight them.
This is so true. I’m a current officer and a former wrestler as well as a currently wrestling coach. There is almost no combative training and even in the academy we were told 20% bc the job is so worried that people will get hurt and sue or go out from injuries due to the training.
My dad was SFPD for 12 years retired back in 2003 and he was a big ass Pacific Islander who is also a Marine and trained jiu jitsu for 15years.. Really up to the officer themselves back then to learn techniques in apprehending a suspect.. Like most with the Big Heads and Egos they're the first ones calling distress while my dad knew more ways to have a bad guy in hand cuffs with pressure point moves that I know from experience would have me screaming like a banche! Never had my father had to kneel on somebody's back or head or even shoot his gun at somebody who didnt ask for it. Why i feel George Floyd is a straight up lie like how one old man supposedly killed and injuried 150 people at a country fest in Vegas or Sandy Hook.. It's all a lie by the Deep State..
Man thank you for giving people that insight! Just a couple weeks ago when I heard defund the police, I thought exactly how Jocko is. Aside from the fraction of lunatics, they have a decent point with meaning to reallocate that extra money. However, like he said, as a black person I would much rather it go into training. I already knew law enforcement training was short and varies, but you really put it into perspective. I have 2 other theories of what might help, one being to fire officers for “smaller” issues that might lead to the death of someone, so that way it would force every other officer to be held to a higher standard so they don’t lose their job. I like hearing about what people have to say about all this and what they think would help. A lot better on here than twitter too, on there you would’ve gotten bombarded with “You didn’t get proper training? Your the fucking devil for staying as an officer!”
Minneapolis actually had a meeting for the city council about a week ago (about 3 months after they defunded) and every person in the zoom called asked about why there was a rise in crime.
That's the whole point of Jocko’s argument that the police officers should spend at least 1/5 of the year in training, going through scenarios, getting physically fit and get them to feel calm under pressure, like learning a martial art or joining the SEAL team. There’s a documentary on Netflix about how the Flint Michigan police department reorganized and became more community focused after the Flint Water Crisis, and we even saw their Sheriff and deputies marched with the protesters in solidarity to prevent any escalation of violence and encourage both sides to come together.
Great point! People are going asinine times a thousand about the police right now. Wait until they need them in an emergency. Society can't peacefully and realistically exist without police enforcement.
yeah its not just logic thoi - its our ability to control our own MEAT vehicle Ive been so angry before... ive throught crazy things and been soooo angry I broke my hand INTO a stud in my wall punching it from reading the news media. Jocko is right we have to go SOMEWHERE andd decompress our fucking ENTIRE SOCIETY is being constantly blasted with terrible news its just OVERWHELMING - I want to go meditate sokmehwhere on a rock for like 2 years fuck
His gigantic head that sleeps on its own gigantic pillow, houses a gigantic brain capable of telepathy. At 0500hrs every morning his alarm clock goes off as does anyone elses alarm clock in a 2 mile radius. He is the Brain in Pinky & the Brain.
@Ryan Ong first time im hearing them being underpaid if im being honest. From what i can tell they get paid more than most to do less than nothing, while enjoying top of the line everything.
@@TheDragonageorigins they aren't underpaid. That was a dumb thing that person said. Politicians get great benefits and make great money. They don't work for free.
@Tyler Zacher You had me with the first part the second part not so much. The idea of the Electoral college is every state even the smallest is important. No Electoral college only large cities will decide elections.
@Tyler Zacher Personally there should be a cap on how much a politician can spend campaigning and corporate donations should be banned. Money should not be allowed to influence these people.
@@justinbenjamin9941 and? The entire problem BLM has with America today is the militarization of the police, combined with the prison industrial complex. And your solution is to have a Navy Seal train them instead, Justin?
Nuclear Left Hook they are not trained to kill , they are trained to read and predict situations in split seconds ,sure armed people they will kill but not so different to police
Hit the nail on the head with the “dehumanizing” aspect. The media and politicians are really turning us all against each other through dehumanizing the “other side”.
The other side "dehumanized" themselves by not acting human to the public and the bystander partner cops that watched the inhumanity continue The people who say they are deviding us just don't want to deal with the issue and reveal the truth we've been devided since they started seeing everyone as hostile and killing unarmed people
kimboslipper the only way through this is through de-escalation, communication, and finding common ground. If everyone just chooses a side and digs in then we get what we deserve. Unfortunately, that will be a country that looks like CHOP.
@@sdlager22 The only way? That's why we are in this position There's more than one way and you should be allowed to state you're point and not stifle both sides until we get to this point If the Guardian Angels team up WITH the police and patrol together then we have a SOLUTION Not lets keep sitting down to talk that time has passed we need realtime action implemented I only have solution based thinking so I can't repeat past failures
Imagine the masculinity of the man who created and raised Jocko. Someone get me a picture of Jocko’s dad, guy probably swallowed a star to create such a densely built man
It's hard to build relationships with the community/ train when the officers are going call to call for 12 hours. But Jocko has brought up many great points.
That seems like something that need to be changed. It’s also something he mentioned: how after a moment of high stress they (police) need to take a step back and calm down. He’s talking about systemic changes in procedures at the department level not just behaviors the individual officers should alter.
I like it as well, but it's a half measure. When you listen, his take is about "identifying bad actors" in the community, but nothing addresses the "bad actor" in a badge
Places across the world have this, literally everyone should hope to implement community relationships so we can stop killing each other for stupid reasons. Guns really need to go too creates and unbalance in a persons mentality
If our cops trained even a hair as much as the military we wouldn’t be having as many issues. Plus, it would weed out those who don’t make the cut. This whole podcast was very well said.
Not all units train in the manner Jocko explained. High tempo units like SF/SEALS/PJ's etc. have the funding to do that level training while on the opposite end of the spectrum many support units have to use creative accounting just to get basic remedial training. But I do agree with your statement that police needs to increase their training budgets.
@@joeclaridy Those police also need to stop those "good normal people" in the neighborhoods & stop wasting so much of their budgets on equipment to just look cool.
@@BringFactsOrBackAwaySlow They're Usually Gifts From The Military So Money Isn't Spent There. And These Are Real People With Lives They Want To Come Back To Just Like Yourself, Cars Are The Worst Kind Of Cover. If I Was A Small Town Cop I'd Love To Have An Armored Vehicle To Take Cover Behind Of Instead Of My Flimsy Patrol Car. That Way I Can Get Home Safely To My Family.
He's being an apologist for cops though. Yeah, they most definitely need more training but there needs to be lots of other reform to stop the power trips, racism, brutality, etc.
Everyone forgets tax dollars and minimizing liability are what city's care about. Those are the driving forces behind hiring and polices. It's a balance between cost and performance.
I discovered Jocko on the JRE 4 years ago, he struck me as overly military ( my father and older brother were hardcore army ) and at first that bothered me, but the more I have listened to his podcast and heard him talk about many different important human experiences in life I have come to deeply respect him. In this clip I think he is absolutely 100% spot on with this incredibly nuanced and complicated situation. 👍
Agreed. That's what people are not including in the conversation is the fact that this is an extremely nuanced conversation. People on both sides (especially the left) are jumping from one extreme to another for a solution when the fact is, the solution lies somewhere in the middle, like Jocko is explaining.
For me he kept bouncing back and forth between stuff that I agreed with that are reasonable and others being naive unrealistic points...defend the police means don't give em tanks and unnecessary expenditures that have nothing to with policing lol and when he said nobody agreed with the George floyd thing, that was super naive lol there were a lot of people who did lol I saw 3 videos today of white people enacting the killing as a joke and police excusing the murder lol
@@artbydami1395 police dont have tanks, they have armored vehicles because they aren't invincible. Ehen they need to respond to an active shooting or a terrorist attack theyre gonna want armor.
I was a cop in Baltimore for several years before I was able to leave for a different job. Best thing I ever did. In Baltimore, while I was in academy they used us as test subjects for the new applicant test to get in to the department. It was far easier than the test I took and was mostly matching faces of people. While in the academy many of my class mates regularly failed written test and were able to take them again. Then if they failed again they went to another room and always came back with a passing grade. They lower the standards every year because they can't keep enough officers to do the job. You are pressured to answer calls and get disciplined if you take to long on a call. Some calls take time to do right but they don't give you the time. It was a terrible place to work, the corruption was bad and most of the command staff are so out of touch with policing it's sad. Also a lot of the command staff would be lucky to have an education higher than a G.E.D. The best predictor for job performance is intelligence...
How do you stop people like you from instigating or being complicit in assulting people. Would you tell on a fellow officer? Of course not you guys are thugs ,not much different than the idiots you arrest. Joe did a show about this type of behavior with a former police officer. Him i respect,he was a honorable man
The test you take to become a cop filters out anyone with an IQ over 106. This has recently been fought over in the courts. They want dumb people to join who follow bad orders, and who they can shift blame on to when things go wrong.
All jokes aside, Jocko is a very smart guy and very well educated. I respect the fact that he doesnt talk about things he doesnt know about, and the stuff he does he has extensive knowledge about.
Blue Moon he isn’t wrong, in UK our officers have to have a degree now. Training will do a lot but American police are ignorant and need education to have better community relations.
Najma college degrees aren’t worth much, regular training at the unit and much longer expanded academy are key. College degrees are to poisoned by political professors and low academic standards any more.
Joe really gives his guests the time and the space to speak and think through their ideas. It’s a genuinely refreshing interview style that gets the best from the conversation.
@@harishsundararaman8495 The mainstream media interviews are so cramped and crafted, towing the party line, pushing a standard narrative for the corporations they represent. It’s nauseating. I can’t watch it anymore.
@@thomasnguyen5639 if he does I'm completely here for it. A: knowing Jocko I think if he made a movie it wouldn't be a cash grab or something that glorifies war and violence. It'd be gritty, realistic and with a real message. And B: I just support the guy so whatever project he does I'm pretty much in.
Police used to walk on the streets and speak to the public and be a part of the community. This isn’t as frequent and now the relationship is not as good as it was. Well said both of you.
Bill Burr already said the greatest line about the presidency in America. Its something like this, when it gets to a certain level, it doesn't matter which side you're on. You either do what you're told or you get that convertible ride in Dallas.
yeah but most of the rest of what he said is bs or not addressing the issue. Yeah they dont train enough but theyre ALSO racist and corrupt as shit and incentivized to write tickets and make arrests which is not the same as protecting and serving their communities
Why would you think that? What do you know about the training that police go through and how much or how little they need? You are arguing from a position of ignorance.
seneormoneybags Ok genius. Let’s see your evidence of cops and racism. I want names, events and proof of racism. George Floyd should not be your first example. The cop was an ahole who killed him but no evidence that it was racially motivated. And no just because a white cop kills or assaults a black person doesn’t automatically mean racism. Nor does a black cop killing a white person. So here is your chance to prove your case.
It is sad. The answers are there. The military clearly have them. But big government Democrats clearly don’t want answers because they don’t want to listen to people who have them. It’s actually embarrassing because the DNC is in charge of most of these cops who go rogue. 💡
Bingo. There are almost 1 Million police officers in the U.S. You know how much money could be made by former Navy Seals and SF? They'll get rich on training schools for police. That's why he says what he does.
@@longkesh1971 he is completely right though, imagine taking a undertrained soldier and deploying them on an unending patrol for 30 years straight. It's a miracle there isn't more cases of cops losing their shit and wasting people.
Good point. If each officer had to have some type of liability insurance, it would add another layer of protection...for the public. Can't get insured, can't be a cop. This coupled w more training and giving communities more say in the process are some things to help begin to fix this thing. I think communities having a say in things helps more minorities become a part of the "force" .
Yeah I have to do more just to maintain tech certs, and that isn't even saying much. It's crazy how little training is required after the initial academy shit.
Joe, as a police officer with 19 plus years, I completely agree with Jocko. I've been saying most of this for many years. I would love to have a conversation with you about these topics.
@@b3dl4m15 Yeah only. That one inch does the trick. Americans and their magical imperial system numerology, lmao. Nevermind that you can actually never see both in the same frame, so it's obviously not what Darkfoot meant - what he's referring to is "presence"
As someone who works in law enforcement i absolutely love what J.Willink is saying about training and what is needed i get 1 8hr use of force and de-escalation training every year as a NY Correctional officer and its just verbal and video teaching NOTHING HANDS ON , and we're supposed to be proficient what a joke.....
I call it the Thanos Initiative. Snap your fingers and get rid of all the criminals. Then we wouldn’t need police, lawyers or politician. OUCH! Someone pinched me and I woke up from my dream.
Duke Davis Do you really think America would ever let there be “no criminals “. That’s like us not going to war constantly. It’s an industry now. They make a lot of money off criminals just like they do from wars. When there’s money involved, I don’t think they want this.
Wow 🤔 What a compelling argument, perspective, humanization and understanding this man brought to the table concerning officers that I never considered.
The issue is training and education on all ends. Fund more education for the general person and better training to those enforcing the law and what that means and to what extent they are the law, because police are not lawyers Edit: and last and most importantly, ACCOUNTABILITY! The reason this is all happening isn't because the police killed someone. It's because they've killed people time and time again and have gotten away with it and rehired or never fired like nothing happened. ACCOUNTABILITY
Public Enemy #1 every country needs a well trained police force to enforce the laws. A lot of murderers , rapist , child molestors would be mire able to do what they want
TJ C no that’s not the answer, it’s the judicial system that’s fucked up. Cops break the laws all the time and are never held accountable. Growing up in Chico ca. The cops always pulled me over for no reason just to see if I was DUI.
Joe Rogan rather invites Joko Wilkins then Dr. Cornel West in this times. Wonder why 🤔. Mmmmmm to promote Jokos EnergyDrink and Jokos Podcast. Joe does not care about real Reform. It's about Community-Service understand? Invest in the Community, the people not just the force. If U only see the force and not the people and there strugels, Ur just like every Dispot around the world joe. = Unsubscribe. Stop smoking weed joe. It's hurting. Plz copy and paste again this coment 👍
Standards after graduation I agree. A cop can't be at SEAL status when released as an officer but I see his idea on why. I do like the idea if 1/5 of the year training. Problem with that is some depts don't have the $$ but still something should be done with this (I am currently on the force in nyc). Scenarios are the best way to learn. Scenarios can change and be fluid and that will cause the mind to rethink what should be done. Again, awesome video
Its not emotions, they can be trained better while still defunding them some. You see some of these police budgets and they are just ridiculous, when you compare them to some school districts for example. Just stop overspending in your unlimited fancy gun toys which aren't even used in the vast majority of situations and start training these cops in civilian interactions. Like Jocko himself is saying, this division needs to stop and that is done by meeting at some kind of middle. Completely removing police is stupid but so is the current status quo, even if you refuse to acknowledge the latter.
Danie Seattle’s plan to defund the police is to lay off nearly 100 officers and cut the remaining officer’s salary. That’s not going to help improve training and make cops less racist; it’ll only demoralize cops into quitting, which is what they really want to do.
falkenlaser No, their plan is to shift duties away from police officers. This requires a budget cut and yes some cops will be affected, but don’t make it seem like they are just firing cops and that’s the plan. Also, not necessarily defending this approach, but it is too soon to judge recent decisions. Criticism was obviously gonna come regardless of the way the defunding was done, but I do consider that it needs to be planned correctly.
Daniel You don’t have to cut cop’s salaries to “shift duties away from police officers.” That’ll make a ton of cops quit and find work elsewhere, resulting in a smaller and lesser trained police force. Plus, the whole goal behind “defunding the police” is supposedly to end police brutality, but shifting duties away from police officers won’t do that, as you’ll still have armed cops dealing with violent criminals (where police brutality is most likely to happen), and there’s no guarantee they won’t be brutal. It would require more training to prevent cops from being overly brutal (as Jocko explains), but with a smaller police force with less funding and less time for training, that’ll be impossible. Also, replacing a big chunk of the police force with “social workers” to deal with non-violent crime with the assurance the smaller police force will be able to deter and handle violent crime is totally untested. If they want to shift duties from police officers to social workers, they should first build and test these social worker programs to see if they’ll do just as good as police officers can, and if they do, then shift duties and funds away from police departments to the social workers. It’s completely stupid to first defund the police and then start building these untested social worker programs with the hopes they’ll work, as it’ll leave a temporary power vacuum during which criminals can take over. It’s already happening in cities like New York, Chicago, and Portland in which they disbanded their anti-crime units, which has resulted in gun crimes skyrocketing.
I do wish that he discussed more of the systematic issues that are leading to these cases. If Floyd’s murder wasn’t on camera the officers wouldn’t have been arrested. So some unarmed individual would have died with no one held responsible.
@@sammygorelik, what psychic medium told you what would happen if the circumstances were different? That's just your hypothesis that has little basis in actual fact.
Yes, jocko's casual racism and attempts to blame the victim is totally reasonble. Jocko isn't even genuine, he is softening his racism to try to sound reasonable, this is a classic right wing tactic.
Ran night club security and one rule I had was the bouncer that kicked someone out didn't go outside with the guest. The bouncer would escort them to the door and another bouncer would take over and talk to them outside and de-escalate the situation. Found that the people would calm down quicker and we had alot less bad situations. He had a good point when he said another officer should have gone over and took over once Floyd was cuffed and on the ground
I agree with Jocko on a lot of what he says. My dad was a deputy sheriff for 32 years. He has severe PTSD to the point where he barely talks to people and will randomly get upset even when nothing goes on. He’s told me stories about having to talk down relatives of suicide victims, he saw a man kill himself during a standoff, he had to talk to a child who was a victim of rape, and he once had to hold a little girl in his arms who was shot as she died. That drained the man. Seriously drained the life from him. He’s 63 and looks like he’s 73. There needs to be breaks for cops every few months where they can decompress, and get help. There needs to be support for them. All my dad got was a tiny pension and a fuck you very much for all his service. And he was lucky compared to his partner Jerry who retired in poverty and died of cancer. Defund the police?! Mother fuckers we need to triple their funding and help these people. Jocko for sheriff.
I wish I could think him for his service, no matter what he's done, any man to put himself in that position is more man then anyone who would utter defund the police.
You can defund the police while still prioritizing helping the officers. They are not mutually exclusive. In fact funding the police more makes them do more things, and we could use that funding to invest into social workers that could help.
@@littlebiglsteele4158 I don’t agree. Every time we take away from cops we see more crime. Public works and social programs have existed for decades and done nothing because they aren’t aimed at helping the poor to get out of that life but rather to reward them and incentivize them to stay poor. There are endless programs for poor, female and minorities to get free education, lunches at schools and laws that dictate that a company must have a minimum number of minorities, women and people with alternative sexualities and yet in spite of all of it, we see no improvement because it’s easier to just kick back and take a check from the government. Having lived in a county that’s filled to the brim with this type of nonsense, I can assure you that more funding for this crap does t help. What does help is families acting like families. Communities coming together to have each other’s backs. But that requires us to get off our asses and be uncomfortable but god forbid anyone sweat a little and maybe help their neighbor out by babysitting or shoveling their driveway or even just inviting them over for dinner or even a beer to watch the game. The problem isn’t a money issue. It’s a “we don’t want to have to deal with it ourselves” issue. And trust me as someone who lives in a town where the cops are just scraping by and it’s easier to get on welfare than to get a job, the results are disastrous. Be the change you want to see my friend.
@@concordetconstabulary219 the "people living off welfare" is an absolutely exagerated myth. And i dint think its fair to boil this down to a sinple cultural issue either. The social safety nets in america are not nearly enough and putting good ones in place will not lead to people living off handouts. No country with better programs has that problem. Also dont you think people would be more likely to have that sense of community if they were payed more and were less stressed from living paycheck to paycheck and thus had more time to do so.
@@littlebiglsteele4158 the issue of living paycheck to paycheck is a result of two things. Life choices and taxes. Lower taxes and companies can pay people better. Regarding your “exaggerated myth” accusation. Have you lived in a blue state before versus a red or purple state? California, New York, Illinois, Michigan and Massachusetts have some of the highest taxes, and highest social programs and yet have the highest crime rates despite spending ungodly amounts of tax payer money on social programs and having the strictest gun laws in the nation. Why they don’t completely fail is due to the federal government bailing them out. Look at red states like Texas, Kentucky, Georgia, and Arizona and you’ll see booming markets because they tax people far less. Regarding “other countries have done this and had no issues” argument. The United States is the power house of the world. The Unites States army has bases in every single socialist nation to act as protection. These nations that have so much money for said social programs do not face the burden of raising a military to guard other nations. Also the United States is far more ethnically diverse than these socialist nations. With diversity come disagreements. A devout Muslim from Saudi Arabia is not going to have the same values as an agnostic bi sexual open relationship couple in the United States. An African American family that is highly religious is not going to have the same values as a bohemian German family. White poor people from the country side are not gonna have the same values as urban African Americans or even urban whites. That’s just a taste of what this country is comprised of and yet we are all expected to get along and live as one people. There are going to be conflicts here you won’t see in Norway where the biggest conflict they face is snow. I know it’s not politically correct but “diversity” isn’t a strength. It’s a liability because people who come from different backgrounds, don’t always get along. Hell just put a white liberal and a white conservative from the same state in a room together and they can’t even get along. America faces issues that these nations don’t. America isn’t like these nations for a reason. And trying to be like them isn’t going to work because America by design isn’t supposed to work like these nations. I mean no offense to you. You seem like a good hearted person and I will extend an olive branch and agree that community can’t solve every single issue. Government should be run based on morals. Laws should be ratified or struck down for moral reasons. And I’ll even go so far as to say police shouldn’t be decked out in military style gear for everyday patrols short of bad neighborhoods. But I’ve been around police my entire life. I’ve seen these things with my own eyes. I don’t say the things I say to be cruel. I say them because I’ve seen these policies pushed and fail time and again and again. We the people need to step up more. Yes police should be trained more for peace keeping than for fighting but the sad reality is their job is to put themselves in these situations. And when you have less than a second to respond to a threat, you are going to make mistakes. It’s easy to dissect the problem when sitting from afar but when your in the shit it’s all or nothing.
Jocko is 100 percent right about this. I left police work exactly because of how people feel about police in this day and age. I grew tired of being called a racist and being screamed at because some yahoo is watching a felony traffic stop and I've got my gun out. I grew tired of being harassed by people shoving their camera phones in my face even though I have a body cam. And I could give a shit if someone filmed me. I don't care. But I did care when people would interfere in the hopes of "going viral". I miss it. I really do, but I'm in a trade now and doing pretty good. And he's right about training. We got 8 hours of hand to hand and 8 hours of ground fighting in the academy. That's it. And for in-service training once a year, we got 8 hours for both. Thankfully, one of the guys in my old agency is a BJJ blackbelt and would hold training sessions for anyone that wanted to show up. There were maybe 30 of us total out of 200 or so deputies that would show up. I miss it every day pretty much, but I can't go back and I pray for my brothers and sisters in blue every day.
Well, the amount of officers that turn off or have "malfunctioning" body cams is a little weird. So if I were you, I'd shut my mouth about things that are perfectly legal. Are you American? "I don't care about being filmed" but you sure do have a lot of resentment about it. What are you doing that you can't be filmed? Wouldn't you be suspicious if some guy didn't let you search his bag or car? Well they're searching your conduct. Deal with it, snowflake.
@@hoodiejack thanks. I know most are just regular people and would never want to actually take a life. Unfortunately we are all human and some can be real dickheads ruining for the majority of good people
@@Rico-hb1rz not thousands. You're a liar. Even if it was. You're talking about thousands out of billions if not trillions of police interactions. Sooooo gtfoh
Thank you, Jocko. This is a well respected US Navy SEAL, telling the country the truth. In my state all that is required to maintain certification is a 24hrs of training a year. Early on in my career I used sick leave to attend a 5 day training course, that was geared towards to ground fighting. The first day we spent 6 hrs in the classroom, the final two hours were spent getting familiar with the simunition glocks, and AR's that we would use for scenarios. The next day we began scenarios immediately. The first few scenarios were all handled using no force at all. I went to lunch, and the first scenario, I was called to a bar fight. As I walked into the "bar" and was immediately grabbed by two guys and the 3rd strolled over and shot me in the head...
Who dislikes this? Honestly curious, because this was just intelligent conversation and Jocko nailed the police brutality issue, absolutely nailed it on the head.
Police departments are actually overfunded, yet are not accountable to citizens. Qualified immunity and Gonzales vs Castle Rock will keep all those cops in Uvalde from any civil or criminal cases. Bootlickers always blame issues with cops with "Underfunding". Only cops and politicians fail up.
He only talks over people who dont give facts about the thing they're talking about like religion or weed but this is a guys opinion and Joe's just tryna take in his opinion
When Jocko left for basic training he slapped his dad on the back and said, "You're the man of the house now."
this comment is amazing
haha that's almost like a Tony the type of guy comment...
😂now ima do that when I move out
😂 brilliant
Of all the jocko jokes, this one's the best
When Jocko works out, he doesn’t get any stronger, the machine does.
Good addition!
Great call
This has to be the best Joe Rogan video clip
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Stolen comment
Jocko looks like he's from Gears of War
he is.
Matt Damon on steroids
Gears of War is actually Jocko's jujitsu training montage
LMAO hell Naah. Snapped! 👍
I have always thought this
Him bringing up jiu jitsu was the smartest move in a joe rogan conversation
Now he just needs to bring up dmt. And Joe will be powerless
@@sweettea-ms7ex joe will be quivering with excitement 😂
Haha ,I agree
@@sweettea-ms7ex Chimpanzees on dmt doing bjj
That immediately gets Joe Rogan locked in.
"Most people are pretty sane I think most people are pretty reasonable" Yes but most people are also VERY easily manipulated and mislead.
Jay Gage yep this apply to both sides
That is how we got an amoral failed businessman as President.
@@easyduzit6118 bro you're the guy hes talking about that just listens to media and can't think for himself
Assassin223 so you just assumed that since he doesn’t like trump that he can’t think for himself
I'm live
Defund the politicians.
Or just make it illegal for politicians to get "donations" from large companies
Watch my video on Defunding police! I have it to a tee!
Need less testosterone!
the politicians are currupt
@@callanc3925 Or just dont have kids if youre too dumb to avoid feeding into the corruption
When Jocko puts on sunglasses, it's to protect the sun from his eyes.
Chuck vs Jocko?
No, its so the enemy can't see where Jocko is looking.
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Das deep
It only turns to night cause Jocko gets tired and stares the sun down
Jocko... from a cop. To hear you talk about us like this literally brought tears to my eyes. I beg you... beg you to speak to law makers. Please. Your point of view matters, ours doesn't anymore. Thank you for your service and everything else you do.
Shawnpiece 103 God bless man, keep fighting the good fight
I hope you read this message. My family and I support you. I have met police that are really good people. I considered joining after the army. I intrinsically want to help and protect people that need it. I know many join for the same reason.
@@josephjohn7209 more training and education is good for everyone regardless of skin race and class. the government can remove money from other places to put into the community and teachers. you cant cut one education and put it in another place and say the problem is fixed education its self has to be funded and taken seriously. It's like filling a leaking pipe with a piece of gum that's filling another hole. the problem is getting rid of those luxury items and replacing the pipe with a new pipe which is always way cheaper than that luxury item
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Your voice does matter. You have to speak at the polls, or go to Washington and get involved. You can vote for things to be better, but you'll have to vote red.
I remember playing as this guy when DOOM came out in 1996
He is the Doom Slayer.
Haaaaaaaa
Since I totally want to be that guy, 1993. It was released on December 10, 1993. Yes, I googled that, yes, I'll go away now
@@charleshalcomb5638 the right date is important. Its calm
@@bradchad2645 Naturally
Joe rogan: "whats scary is that no one is repeating what youre saying"
He is 1000% right.
this should be top vote
This has to be the best Joe Rogan clip 🔥
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This should be top vote
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I've heard many people and even police departments such as the NYPD have taken a huge stance on community policing. It's the way to go and it's definitely not being swept under the rug.
He said 1/5th of the time they should be training, and it just makes sense
Training no other way.
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The reason Jocko makes so much sense is, controversy is wise enough to avoid him.
Nice
what’s one have to do with the other? unless this is simply another chuck norris rip-off joke🤨
World: has any problem
Jocko: the answer is Jujitsu
He does say it's a super power.
This made my day. Thank you for posting it my guy
I mean it does give you perspective and discipline... those things are missing from a lot of people's daily lives, and especially while growing up.
@reid. that is a mischaracterization of what the point he was making.
Thanks for being born
When Jocko cuts onions the onions cry
And then he consoles them
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They need to defund the politicians who dont do their jobs and the courts who dont follow the constitution.
That's called "voting." Have at it.
How the politicians gona write out a law to defund themselves 😂
@@davemccombs there is no way to vote and defund a politician but it needs to be done.
I mean you could stop paying taxes lol see how far you get
And the failing public schools
when jocko turned 18, his parents moved out
Everyone in America needs to watch this
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And what will change? People are too stubborn
Jocko said nothing new. "Cure the police by throwing more money at them". We've been doing that for over 40 years now.
I still can't get over the fact that this man is unironically called Jocko.
no other name would fit
I know a big white man Named Jocko 😅 fR
Dont forget the Willink
His real name is John. Seals and navy pilots all have "handles" , nicknames. They usually get a nickname early in their navy career. Usually during initial training. I'm a retired Navy Master Chief so I not blowing up your skirt.
Never heard the word "unironic" before but will start using it in those few appropriate situations where the word fits- thank you Gab!
As ex-military, who was part of the fire service in our military this is so true. We constantly trained for situations weekly, daily in some instances.
We would have a whole week of training in a 4 week work routine. As well as do various training exercises whilst on duty.
Training constantly helps you focus for a situation as it arises. Yes there are are factors that can effect the situation but you can prepare so much better for a situation.
It allows you moments of clarity to allow you to adapt.
Easy to do in the military when your whole purpose is to be an unused deterrent force so all you have is free time. Hard to do for a police force for a locality where people are being killed every single day and taking cops off of patrol to train in jujitsu or something can mean the difference between someone being murdered or the police responding in time.
Prior service Army here. I absolutely agree!
Some departments don't have the funds to train their officers, because some police is underfunded already
You too fam...
Careful, that sounds like common sense!
Jocko, I’m a recently retired cop served 25 years. I now train cops in a peer support, officer wellness program like the issues you discuss. We train them to be active bystanders with their fellow cops over their career. Taking a stand and helping each other through the tough times in an effort to stop misconduct and potential litigation. Let’s work together! You rock. Thanks Joe!
you’re simply perpetuating the problem. STOP IT.
@@maddog7999how?
There should be a time where a rookie is given a training set, and is escorted to a training Sim with limited information, and that is the the initial emotional test to see if they're mature and qualified for the position
The society that separates it's warriors from its scholars will have it's thinking done by cowards and it's fighting done by fools. -Thucydides
@@imdifferentMr843 you're a fool
“My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.” -Thiccydides
damn, great quote!
props for that one. Copy and pasted into my notes. Thanks
@@gohanshintigers ded
Jocko sleeps with a nightlight because he doesn’t want to scare the dark.
That was a good Chuck Norris fact from 2006. Even better Jocko fact in 2020 😎
Jocko stands when he poops.
the dark sleeps with a nightlight because its scared of Jocko
@@blazegarcia5607 x. 1
Jocko regularly practices juijutsu on the darkness😂😂
Jocko is what I imagine DOOM guy looks like
Ahh hahahahaha!!! So true 😂
Or master chief under the helmet
Sounds like too
YES!!
LOL
I'm a Correction Officer and a Combat Infantry Veteran of oif. I also spent nearly 10 years in the private sector.
I've been saying for years that departments need more training. It needs to be a Priority. Also, Jocko's absolutely correct about the mindset.
@CodingCrusader1095 Actually, the government LOSES MONEY, for every inmate incarcerated for canibus charges, as does the tax payer. I honestly wish they'd go ahead and legalize it everywhere, so we can invest our resources into stopping actual violent criminals.
@CodingCrusader1095 That is A MYTH. Quit propagating Lies. Even grants which they qualify for don't affect profits. It has to be spent on improving the dept.
But if the politicians spent the money in useful things how are they gonna buy those mansions and bribe the media... Hmmmm
@@jamie_d0g978 Hahaha.
@@chivalrousjackcorrect me if I'm wrong, but oif is Operation enduring freedom right? The American Invasion into Iraq to look for weapons of mass destruction. A couple of people I watch such as Zach hazard from The Mikeburnfire Channel had served in the same theater.
Jocko looks like a cross between Matt Damon and John Cena..
Lmao spot on
Ha!! Your assessment is dead fucking on. Outstanding.
I can't unsee it now
Ahhhhh hahaha got eeem
@Nathan Bracey aye aye Capitan O!
Jocko is the most military guy to have ever militaried.
in the military
Never go full militaried!
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You stole that
He went full military, he never came back.
Jocko didn’t join the military, the military joined Jocko
Jocko IS the military lol
Jocko once pissed in the gas tank of a semi truck... that semi truck is now known as Optimus Prime
Jocko once took a lie detector test, the machine confessed everything
Lololol. This made me laugh hard
😂😂😂
we need to talk about your user name...
Fantastic!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
“We do not rise to the occasion-we fall to the level of training” Archilochus
Thanks for letting me know this quote. It's great.
I like it
I like the line from the movie Whiplash. "People don't rise to expectations, they sink to them".
this is beautiful thanks
@@themistoklestheodosopoulos6253 - fantastic movie!
As a former cop, in my 4 years, we did no...i repeat NO mandatory combatives training. I did fine with combative encounters because of 4 years of high school wrestling. but tried to get cop buddies to come train...they wouldn't do it. They didn't want their ego to take a hit. I remember certain cops screaming out of the radio in distress when someone mildly resisted them. They had no idea what to do in a situation where someone didn't do what they said, let alone actually tried to fight them.
Scary
This is so true. I’m a current officer and a former wrestler as well as a currently wrestling coach. There is almost no combative training and even in the academy we were told 20% bc the job is so worried that people will get hurt and sue or go out from injuries due to the training.
My dad was SFPD for 12 years retired back in 2003 and he was a big ass Pacific Islander who is also a Marine and trained jiu jitsu for 15years..
Really up to the officer themselves back then to learn techniques in apprehending a suspect.. Like most with the Big Heads and Egos they're the first ones calling distress while my dad knew more ways to have a bad guy in hand cuffs with pressure point moves that I know from experience would have me screaming like a banche! Never had my father had to kneel on somebody's back or head or even shoot his gun at somebody who didnt ask for it. Why i feel George Floyd is a straight up lie like how one old man supposedly killed and injuried 150 people at a country fest in Vegas or Sandy Hook.. It's all a lie by the Deep State..
Curious... Why did you leave the force?
Man thank you for giving people that insight! Just a couple weeks ago when I heard defund the police, I thought exactly how Jocko is. Aside from the fraction of lunatics, they have a decent point with meaning to reallocate that extra money. However, like he said, as a black person I would much rather it go into training.
I already knew law enforcement training was short and varies, but you really put it into perspective.
I have 2 other theories of what might help, one being to fire officers for “smaller” issues that might lead to the death of someone, so that way it would force every other officer to be held to a higher standard so they don’t lose their job. I like hearing about what people have to say about all this and what they think would help. A lot better on here than twitter too, on there you would’ve gotten bombarded with “You didn’t get proper training? Your the fucking devil for staying as an officer!”
Minneapolis actually had a meeting for the city council about a week ago (about 3 months after they defunded) and every person in the zoom called asked about why there was a rise in crime.
Lmao wow unexpected
Gee I fuckin wonder 🤔
When Jocko gets pulled over he asks the officer for his license and registration.
Yasssssssss. 😂😂
Lol 😂
I mean he has served his country more than the officer
that's ACTUALLY true, HE doesn't have to worry about being pulled over for a busted taillight, and losing his life. That's why they protest.
this is an evolution of the "Tony Fergusson" meme and i liked that
When emotions are high, logic is low. Always and everytime.
Ed are you the famous Ed McCaffrey of the Broncos also the HC of Northern Colorado?
You're better than your son. Don't let him tell you different.
That's the whole point of Jocko’s argument that the police officers should spend at least 1/5 of the year in training, going through scenarios, getting physically fit and get them to feel calm under pressure, like learning a martial art or joining the SEAL team.
There’s a documentary on Netflix about how the Flint Michigan police department reorganized and became more community focused after the Flint Water Crisis, and we even saw their Sheriff and deputies marched with the protesters in solidarity to prevent any escalation of violence and encourage both sides to come together.
Great point! People are going asinine times a thousand about the police right now. Wait until they need them in an emergency. Society can't peacefully and realistically exist without police enforcement.
yeah its not just logic thoi - its our ability to control our own MEAT vehicle
Ive been so angry before... ive throught crazy things and been soooo angry I broke my hand INTO a stud in my wall punching it from reading the news media.
Jocko is right we have to go SOMEWHERE andd decompress our fucking ENTIRE SOCIETY is being constantly blasted with terrible news its just OVERWHELMING - I want to go meditate sokmehwhere on a rock for like 2 years fuck
Jocko wakes his alarm clock up in the morning.
I think that’s actually Chuck Norris?
His gigantic head that sleeps on its own gigantic pillow, houses a gigantic brain capable of telepathy. At 0500hrs every morning his alarm clock goes off as does anyone elses alarm clock in a 2 mile radius. He is the Brain in Pinky & the Brain.
Good.
😂😂
Facts
When Jocko was in school he said to the teacher the bell doesn’t dismiss you I do.
I like when Joe lets his guest talk.
Me too, Cletus Cancer, me too
With someone like Jocko, it’s important to let the guest talk. He is a well articulated man
Because you dont want your fantasy right wing bubble popped😂😂😂😂
@@Ggv19128 what does that even mean? Do you disagree with what Jokko said??
I mean this guy can carry and conversation with ez, i feel like rogan fills up the gaps because the interview is based around the guest or topic
Jocko once got pulled over, cop gave himself a ticket for wasting his time.
That man is a fool.
true story
😂 well said
This comment>>>> 😂
Mack Bach pretty sure he meant the dude pulling him over
jocko is stating straight facts, this dude is so intelligent and experienced.
these "when jocko" comments are destroying my respiratory system 😂
Jocko should have Joe on the podcast more often
You can also listen to his podcasts
Lmao true but I like hearing jocko talk with joe as a side dish😂
😂😂😂😂
Taken from JWE #1492 w/ Joe Rogan
LOL
"DEFUNDING POLITICIANS" is a conversation I'm willing to have.
The politicians are there because we put them there. Vote for better people and if there aren't any, run for office yourself.
@Ryan Ong first time im hearing them being underpaid if im being honest.
From what i can tell they get paid more than most to do less than nothing, while enjoying top of the line everything.
@@TheDragonageorigins they aren't underpaid. That was a dumb thing that person said. Politicians get great benefits and make great money. They don't work for free.
@Tyler Zacher You had me with the first part the second part not so much.
The idea of the Electoral college is every state even the smallest is important. No Electoral college only large cities will decide elections.
@Tyler Zacher Personally there should be a cap on how much a politician can spend campaigning and corporate donations should be banned. Money should not be allowed to influence these people.
The ex Seal should be advising police forces in the USA in a professional capacity.
No, they should not. Seal's are trained to kill more than anything.
Nuclear Left Hook your a clown
Nuclear Left Hook they’re also trained to de escalate problems and be disciplined under pressure
@@justinbenjamin9941 and? The entire problem BLM has with America today is the militarization of the police, combined with the prison industrial complex. And your solution is to have a Navy Seal train them instead, Justin?
Nuclear Left Hook they are not trained to kill , they are trained to read and predict situations in split seconds ,sure armed people they will kill but not so different to police
When Jocko wears body armor, its to protect the bullets from his skin.
Jocko doesn’t have a smart home; his appliances just do what he says
😂😂😂
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Jocko: Freeze this water!
*Freezer violently shakes making totally solid crystal clear ice cubes in 10 seconds."
Jocko: Work on it...
Hit the nail on the head with the “dehumanizing” aspect. The media and politicians are really turning us all against each other through dehumanizing the “other side”.
The other side "dehumanized" themselves by not acting human to the public and the bystander partner cops that watched the inhumanity continue
The people who say they are deviding us just don't want to deal with the issue and reveal the truth we've been devided since they started seeing everyone as hostile and killing unarmed people
kimboslipper the only way through this is through de-escalation, communication, and finding common ground. If everyone just chooses a side and digs in then we get what we deserve. Unfortunately, that will be a country that looks like CHOP.
@@Mynewhandle420 Have you not been listening?
@@sdlager22 The only way? That's why we are in this position
There's more than one way and you should be allowed to state you're point and not stifle both sides until we get to this point
If the Guardian Angels team up WITH the police and patrol together then we have a SOLUTION
Not lets keep sitting down to talk that time has passed we need realtime action implemented
I only have solution based thinking so I can't repeat past failures
@jam brown wtf?
When Jocko left for buds he told his dad “You’re the man of the house now”
Bro how many times has this comment been used? Come up with something on your own lmfao
Imagine the masculinity of the man who created and raised Jocko. Someone get me a picture of Jocko’s dad, guy probably swallowed a star to create such a densely built man
In fact Jocko’s so masculine the only explanation is that he was born of two men
@@liamlyons6645 "Only Spartan women give birth to Spartan men" - Gorgo, Queen of Sparta 480 BC
EDIT: origin
When Jocko left for buds his parents said "finally, a house without someone who's face looks like a slapped $%% walking around."
It's hard to build relationships with the community/ train when the officers are going call to call for 12 hours. But Jocko has brought up many great points.
YOU MAKE TIME🤨 ftp
That seems like something that need to be changed. It’s also something he mentioned: how after a moment of high stress they (police) need to take a step back and calm down. He’s talking about systemic changes in procedures at the department level not just behaviors the individual officers should alter.
That is one of his best points. The departments need to create that time.
Jocko doesn't turn on the shower, he stares at it until it starts to cry.
Lolololol
😂😂
Now that's great....🍻👏bravo, well said. 🤣
I'm fuckin dead hahahaha
LMAO
I love his take on building community relationships.
Jk
I like it as well, but it's a half measure.
When you listen, his take is about "identifying bad actors" in the community, but nothing addresses the "bad actor" in a badge
Places across the world have this, literally everyone should hope to implement community relationships so we can stop killing each other for stupid reasons. Guns really need to go too creates and unbalance in a persons mentality
FatTees8314 everything else between better training and psych evaluations addresses the bad character cops
The whole first half of this video is how to address the police actions/reactions.
When Jocko was born he took his parents home
I thought he slapped the doctor on the ass...
After everything he talked about that's all you can say?
That’s funny as fuck
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If our cops trained even a hair as much as the military we wouldn’t be having as many issues. Plus, it would weed out those who don’t make the cut. This whole podcast was very well said.
Not all units train in the manner Jocko explained. High tempo units like SF/SEALS/PJ's etc. have the funding to do that level training while on the opposite end of the spectrum many support units have to use creative accounting just to get basic remedial training. But I do agree with your statement that police needs to increase their training budgets.
@@joeclaridy Those police also need to stop those "good normal people" in the neighborhoods & stop wasting so much of their budgets on equipment to just look cool.
@@BringFactsOrBackAwaySlow Name The Equipment You Consider "Just To Look Cool"
@@kharjoIII Small town police departments with Bearcats, for example. Are you actually playing dumb on this 😳?
@@BringFactsOrBackAwaySlow They're Usually Gifts From The Military So Money Isn't Spent There. And These Are Real People With Lives They Want To Come Back To Just Like Yourself, Cars Are The Worst Kind Of Cover. If I Was A Small Town Cop I'd Love To Have An Armored Vehicle To Take Cover Behind Of Instead Of My Flimsy Patrol Car. That Way I Can Get Home Safely To My Family.
Man this has been one of the most well spoken and rational responses to this whole thing I've heard... more people need to hear Jocko talk on this
He's being an apologist for cops though. Yeah, they most definitely need more training but there needs to be lots of other reform to stop the power trips, racism, brutality, etc.
Matt Wright you are legitimately stupid.
Matt Wright ummm.... better/more advanced training is reform. Dumb ass.
Everyone forgets tax dollars and minimizing liability are what city's care about. Those are the driving forces behind hiring and polices. It's a balance between cost and performance.
I agree completely. Great points made all around. This is a conversation that should be shared widely and discussed.
I discovered Jocko on the JRE 4 years ago, he struck me as overly military ( my father and older brother were hardcore army ) and at first that bothered me, but the more I have listened to his podcast and heard him talk about many different important human experiences in life I have come to deeply respect him. In this clip I think he is absolutely 100% spot on with this incredibly nuanced and complicated situation. 👍
It's not a complicated situation by any means. People's reactions is what's complicated.
Agreed. That's what people are not including in the conversation is the fact that this is an extremely nuanced conversation. People on both sides (especially the left) are jumping from one extreme to another for a solution when the fact is, the solution lies somewhere in the middle, like Jocko is explaining.
For me he kept bouncing back and forth between stuff that I agreed with that are reasonable and others being naive unrealistic points...defend the police means don't give em tanks and unnecessary expenditures that have nothing to with policing lol and when he said nobody agreed with the George floyd thing, that was super naive lol there were a lot of people who did lol I saw 3 videos today of white people enacting the killing as a joke and police excusing the murder lol
Defund*
@@artbydami1395 police dont have tanks, they have armored vehicles because they aren't invincible. Ehen they need to respond to an active shooting or a terrorist attack theyre gonna want armor.
I was a cop in Baltimore for several years before I was able to leave for a different job. Best thing I ever did. In Baltimore, while I was in academy they used us as test subjects for the new applicant test to get in to the department. It was far easier than the test I took and was mostly matching faces of people. While in the academy many of my class mates regularly failed written test and were able to take them again. Then if they failed again they went to another room and always came back with a passing grade.
They lower the standards every year because they can't keep enough officers to do the job.
You are pressured to answer calls and get disciplined if you take to long on a call. Some calls take time to do right but they don't give you the time. It was a terrible place to work, the corruption was bad and most of the command staff are so out of touch with policing it's sad. Also a lot of the command staff would be lucky to have an education higher than a G.E.D. The best predictor for job performance is intelligence...
How do you stop people like you from instigating or being complicit in assulting people. Would you tell on a fellow officer? Of course not you guys are thugs ,not much different than the idiots you arrest. Joe did a show about this type of behavior with a former police officer. Him i respect,he was a honorable man
How close was it to the wire?
@@mitchellwilder598 you're assaulting me with your idiocy
The test you take to become a cop filters out anyone with an IQ over 106. This has recently been fought over in the courts.
They want dumb people to join who follow bad orders, and who they can shift blame on to when things go wrong.
@@mitchellwilder598 You know almost nothing about me you are merely discriminating based on my former job. Be better.
All jokes aside, Jocko is a very smart guy and very well educated. I respect the fact that he doesnt talk about things he doesnt know about, and the stuff he does he has extensive knowledge about.
This is gold. He's actually giving solutions.
Actual solutions based on rationality and logic. Not "solutions" out of pure hatred and ill-willed emotion.
He is bang on the money training is key
Do you understand how dumb police are? the educational standards are piss poor, set low standards get low people....
Blue Moon he isn’t wrong, in UK our officers have to have a degree now. Training will do a lot but American police are ignorant and need education to have better community relations.
Najma college degrees aren’t worth much, regular training at the unit and much longer expanded academy are key. College degrees are to poisoned by political professors and low academic standards any more.
Joe really gives his guests the time and the space to speak and think through their ideas. It’s a genuinely refreshing interview style that gets the best from the conversation.
Joe is just scared of jocko
It's how normal interviews work. We're just so used to shitty media outlets like CNN or Fox and think that's all interviews are.
@@harishsundararaman8495 The mainstream media interviews are so cramped and crafted, towing the party line, pushing a standard narrative for the corporations they represent. It’s nauseating. I can’t watch it anymore.
Only when he's not talking about dmt
I’ve seen joe talk over tons of people
Jocko looks like every movie military tough guy was cloned from him.
Word on the street he's making a movie
@@thomasnguyen5639 if he does I'm completely here for it. A: knowing Jocko I think if he made a movie it wouldn't be a cash grab or something that glorifies war and violence. It'd be gritty, realistic and with a real message. And B: I just support the guy so whatever project he does I'm pretty much in.
@@thomasnguyen5639 , shut the front door! No way, I am immediately in if true.... Got to see it.
It's the other way around, military tough guys in the movies are based on Jocko
GIT SUMMM
When Jocko steps on a lego, the lego breaks
I’ve never heard Joe be quiet for so long
David Goggins episode
You've never watched / heard the NDGT episodes?
Rhonda Patrick
He knows its bs . Cops need to be held accountable. Taking care of human life. The little power they are given is going to their head.
Javier437834534 lol, the same could be said for any position of power. Listen to what jocko is saying.
When did Matt Damon get so jacked?
Lmao that’s good bro, Jocko ever has a movie about him, Matt Damon now has to play that role
When did Matt Damon become a midget?
Jocko is 5’11 or 6 feet tall. Look at his pictures on google
In Elysium, around 7 years ago. Silly boo, izzy
Matt Damon would need to find some common sense before he could play Jocko's role😂😂🍻🍻
Let’s fund research into making Jocko an immortal super solider who can just police the whole world.
Yhorm start a go fund me. I got a hundo for you
I'm not sure why you think he's not already. Death ain't gonna wanna catch those hands either
Well call him all might
BJ blazkovitz or however you spell his name😂
He already is. They made him in a lab, under the super soldier project
Police used to walk on the streets and speak to the public and be a part of the community. This isn’t as frequent and now the relationship is not as good as it was. Well said both of you.
I wish Jocko would run for president. This is the type of person needed to run a country
I could not agree more..
A strong, stable, wise person like him?
But you got a little twitter bitch instead lol
The irony of politics
Bill Burr already said the greatest line about the presidency in America. Its something like this, when it gets to a certain level, it doesn't matter which side you're on. You either do what you're told or you get that convertible ride in Dallas.
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@jmh30us nobody is perfect, but he comes pretty damn close
Jocko’s take on improving police training- absolutely spot on
I agree and I have heard Tim Kennedy saying the same things and he actually started Sheep Dog in order
To train first responders and law enforcement.
yeah but most of the rest of what he said is bs or not addressing the issue. Yeah they dont train enough but theyre ALSO racist and corrupt as shit and incentivized to write tickets and make arrests which is not the same as protecting and serving their communities
Why would you think that? What do you know about the training that police go through and how much or how little they need?
You are arguing from a position of ignorance.
seneormoneybags Ok genius. Let’s see your evidence of cops and racism. I want names, events and proof of racism. George Floyd should not be your first example. The cop was an ahole who killed him but no evidence that it was racially motivated. And no just because a white cop kills or assaults a black person doesn’t automatically mean racism. Nor does a black cop killing a white person. So here is your chance to prove your case.
Dude looks like a tough Matt Damon
Lmfaooooo
I can't unsee it now...
More like this: Matt Damon looks like a simp Jocko Willink.
@@gelacy I can't unsee it
yeah.... ON 'ROIDS
When Jocko writes a check, the bank bounces ...
That was the longest I’ve ever heard joe go without saying anything
Jocko speaks sense
I feel like I have always been impressed with Joe Rogan's ability to get out of the way when someone is making a good point
He couldn't find a way to input DMT into the conversation
Watch him and Edward Snowden. He goes like an hour without saying anything
When real alpha talking - beta keeps his mouth shut
looks like we just found our commissioner of police training
It is sad. The answers are there. The military clearly have them. But big government Democrats clearly don’t want answers because they don’t want to listen to people who have them. It’s actually embarrassing because the DNC is in charge of most of these cops who go rogue. 💡
I second this
Jocko makes alot of sense. He should be training police departments
We need to clon jocko and make all cops jockos
Bingo. There are almost 1 Million police officers in the U.S. You know how much money could be made by former Navy Seals and SF? They'll get rich on training schools for police. That's why he says what he does.
police departments cant afford Jocko
@@longkesh1971 Jocko is speaking truth and explaining the problem. THAT'S why he says what he does.
@@longkesh1971 he is completely right though, imagine taking a undertrained soldier and deploying them on an unending patrol for 30 years straight. It's a miracle there isn't more cases of cops losing their shit and wasting people.
This guy is so articulate and well spoken
In my job I need to be licensed
Insured and constantly attend classes thru the year to maintain my license...and Im just a bugman
Good point. If each officer had to have some type of liability insurance, it would add another layer of protection...for the public. Can't get insured, can't be a cop. This coupled w more training and giving communities more say in the process are some things to help begin to fix this thing. I think communities having a say in things helps more minorities become a part of the "force" .
This made me laugh but that’s good
Yeah I have to do more just to maintain tech certs, and that isn't even saying much. It's crazy how little training is required after the initial academy shit.
You are amazing bugman!
So you want more classes and safty orientation classes
Joe, as a police officer with 19 plus years, I completely agree with Jocko. I've been saying most of this for many years. I would love to have a conversation with you about these topics.
Having Jocko in the same room as Joe makes Joe look like a kid
facts
Jocko's only 5' 11"........Joe is 5' 7"
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Yeah only. That one inch does the trick. Americans and their magical imperial system numerology, lmao. Nevermind that you can actually never see both in the same frame, so it's obviously not what Darkfoot meant - what he's referring to is "presence"
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As someone who works in law enforcement i absolutely love what J.Willink is saying about training and what is needed i get 1 8hr use of force and de-escalation training every year as a NY Correctional officer and its just verbal and video teaching NOTHING HANDS ON , and we're supposed to be proficient what a joke.....
2013: omg that purge movie is so realistic. That will never happen.
2021: the United States announces the first annual purge
I call it the Thanos Initiative. Snap your fingers and get rid of all the criminals. Then we wouldn’t need police, lawyers or politician. OUCH! Someone pinched me and I woke up from my dream.
Duke Davis do you really want all criminals to disappear? Shocking number of middle class whites would disappear.
Duke Davis Do you really think America would ever let there be “no criminals “. That’s like us not going to war constantly. It’s an industry now. They make a lot of money off criminals just like they do from wars. When there’s money involved, I don’t think they want this.
Hasn't happened.......Yet
Wow 🤔
What a compelling argument, perspective, humanization and understanding this man brought to the table concerning officers that I never considered.
The issue is training and education on all ends.
Fund more education for the general person and better training to those enforcing the law and what that means and to what extent they are the law, because police are not lawyers
Edit: and last and most importantly, ACCOUNTABILITY! The reason this is all happening isn't because the police killed someone. It's because they've killed people time and time again and have gotten away with it and rehired or never fired like nothing happened. ACCOUNTABILITY
Public Enemy #1 every country needs a well trained police force to enforce the laws. A lot of murderers , rapist , child molestors would be mire able to do what they want
@Public Enemy #1 well thats stupid
Too much funding for police & military, defund is right
Yea and you cant get proper education because the Chinese take over of schools
TJ C no that’s not the answer, it’s the judicial system that’s fucked up. Cops break the laws all the time and are never held accountable. Growing up in Chico ca. The cops always pulled me over for no reason just to see if I was DUI.
When bullet proof vests go out in dangerous situations, they cover themselves with Jocko.
Rogan "If every officer took DMT then we would never have this problem" Joe
Joe Rogan rather invites Joko Wilkins then Dr. Cornel West in this times. Wonder why 🤔. Mmmmmm to promote Jokos EnergyDrink and Jokos Podcast. Joe does not care about real Reform. It's about Community-Service understand? Invest in the Community, the people not just the force. If U only see the force and not the people and there strugels, Ur just like every Dispot around the world joe. = Unsubscribe. Stop smoking weed joe. It's hurting. Plz copy and paste again this coment 👍
nux Li I'm gonna go spark up a joint
Standards after graduation I agree. A cop can't be at SEAL status when released as an officer but I see his idea on why. I do like the idea if 1/5 of the year training. Problem with that is some depts don't have the $$ but still something should be done with this (I am currently on the force in nyc). Scenarios are the best way to learn. Scenarios can change and be fluid and that will cause the mind to rethink what should be done. Again, awesome video
nux Li I’m gonna go smoke some weed too, just like jp
You better double-check your systems
...That mechanic was an impostor
It's scary to see that big decisions are being made on the whim and with only emotions in consideration.
@キャブ・ガッツCab Gutz So Dont Get Rid Of Them. Train Them Better
Its not emotions, they can be trained better while still defunding them some. You see some of these police budgets and they are just ridiculous, when you compare them to some school districts for example. Just stop overspending in your unlimited fancy gun toys which aren't even used in the vast majority of situations and start training these cops in civilian interactions. Like Jocko himself is saying, this division needs to stop and that is done by meeting at some kind of middle. Completely removing police is stupid but so is the current status quo, even if you refuse to acknowledge the latter.
Danie Seattle’s plan to defund the police is to lay off nearly 100 officers and cut the remaining officer’s salary. That’s not going to help improve training and make cops less racist; it’ll only demoralize cops into quitting, which is what they really want to do.
falkenlaser No, their plan is to shift duties away from police officers. This requires a budget cut and yes some cops will be affected, but don’t make it seem like they are just firing cops and that’s the plan. Also, not necessarily defending this approach, but it is too soon to judge recent decisions. Criticism was obviously gonna come regardless of the way the defunding was done, but I do consider that it needs to be planned correctly.
Daniel You don’t have to cut cop’s salaries to “shift duties away from police officers.” That’ll make a ton of cops quit and find work elsewhere, resulting in a smaller and lesser trained police force. Plus, the whole goal behind “defunding the police” is supposedly to end police brutality, but shifting duties away from police officers won’t do that, as you’ll still have armed cops dealing with violent criminals (where police brutality is most likely to happen), and there’s no guarantee they won’t be brutal. It would require more training to prevent cops from being overly brutal (as Jocko explains), but with a smaller police force with less funding and less time for training, that’ll be impossible. Also, replacing a big chunk of the police force with “social workers” to deal with non-violent crime with the assurance the smaller police force will be able to deter and handle violent crime is totally untested. If they want to shift duties from police officers to social workers, they should first build and test these social worker programs to see if they’ll do just as good as police officers can, and if they do, then shift duties and funds away from police departments to the social workers. It’s completely stupid to first defund the police and then start building these untested social worker programs with the hopes they’ll work, as it’ll leave a temporary power vacuum during which criminals can take over. It’s already happening in cities like New York, Chicago, and Portland in which they disbanded their anti-crime units, which has resulted in gun crimes skyrocketing.
Finally, a genuine reasonable conversation on this subject.
I do wish that he discussed more of the systematic issues that are leading to these cases. If Floyd’s murder wasn’t on camera the officers wouldn’t have been arrested. So some unarmed individual would have died with no one held responsible.
@@sammygorelik, what psychic medium told you what would happen if the circumstances were different? That's just your hypothesis that has little basis in actual fact.
@@uadimwit i really dont think u can say that his argument isnt based in reality tho
Plenty of good conversation on this. Just typically not by meatheads or Twitter warriors...
Yes, jocko's casual racism and attempts to blame the victim is totally reasonble. Jocko isn't even genuine, he is softening his racism to try to sound reasonable, this is a classic right wing tactic.
Ran night club security and one rule I had was the bouncer that kicked someone out didn't go outside with the guest. The bouncer would escort them to the door and another bouncer would take over and talk to them outside and de-escalate the situation. Found that the people would calm down quicker and we had alot less bad situations. He had a good point when he said another officer should have gone over and took over once Floyd was cuffed and on the ground
I agree with Jocko on a lot of what he says. My dad was a deputy sheriff for 32 years. He has severe PTSD to the point where he barely talks to people and will randomly get upset even when nothing goes on. He’s told me stories about having to talk down relatives of suicide victims, he saw a man kill himself during a standoff, he had to talk to a child who was a victim of rape, and he once had to hold a little girl in his arms who was shot as she died. That drained the man. Seriously drained the life from him. He’s 63 and looks like he’s 73. There needs to be breaks for cops every few months where they can decompress, and get help. There needs to be support for them. All my dad got was a tiny pension and a fuck you very much for all his service. And he was lucky compared to his partner Jerry who retired in poverty and died of cancer. Defund the police?! Mother fuckers we need to triple their funding and help these people. Jocko for sheriff.
I wish I could think him for his service, no matter what he's done, any man to put himself in that position is more man then anyone who would utter defund the police.
You can defund the police while still prioritizing helping the officers. They are not mutually exclusive. In fact funding the police more makes them do more things, and we could use that funding to invest into social workers that could help.
@@littlebiglsteele4158 I don’t agree. Every time we take away from cops we see more crime. Public works and social programs have existed for decades and done nothing because they aren’t aimed at helping the poor to get out of that life but rather to reward them and incentivize them to stay poor. There are endless programs for poor, female and minorities to get free education, lunches at schools and laws that dictate that a company must have a minimum number of minorities, women and people with alternative sexualities and yet in spite of all of it, we see no improvement because it’s easier to just kick back and take a check from the government. Having lived in a county that’s filled to the brim with this type of nonsense, I can assure you that more funding for this crap does t help. What does help is families acting like families. Communities coming together to have each other’s backs. But that requires us to get off our asses and be uncomfortable but god forbid anyone sweat a little and maybe help their neighbor out by babysitting or shoveling their driveway or even just inviting them over for dinner or even a beer to watch the game. The problem isn’t a money issue. It’s a “we don’t want to have to deal with it ourselves” issue. And trust me as someone who lives in a town where the cops are just scraping by and it’s easier to get on welfare than to get a job, the results are disastrous. Be the change you want to see my friend.
@@concordetconstabulary219 the "people living off welfare" is an absolutely exagerated myth. And i dint think its fair to boil this down to a sinple cultural issue either. The social safety nets in america are not nearly enough and putting good ones in place will not lead to people living off handouts. No country with better programs has that problem. Also dont you think people would be more likely to have that sense of community if they were payed more and were less stressed from living paycheck to paycheck and thus had more time to do so.
@@littlebiglsteele4158 the issue of living paycheck to paycheck is a result of two things. Life choices and taxes. Lower taxes and companies can pay people better.
Regarding your “exaggerated myth” accusation. Have you lived in a blue state before versus a red or purple state? California, New York, Illinois, Michigan and Massachusetts have some of the highest taxes, and highest social programs and yet have the highest crime rates despite spending ungodly amounts of tax payer money on social programs and having the strictest gun laws in the nation. Why they don’t completely fail is due to the federal government bailing them out. Look at red states like Texas, Kentucky, Georgia, and Arizona and you’ll see booming markets because they tax people far less.
Regarding “other countries have done this and had no issues” argument. The United States is the power house of the world. The Unites States army has bases in every single socialist nation to act as protection. These nations that have so much money for said social programs do not face the burden of raising a military to guard other nations. Also the United States is far more ethnically diverse than these socialist nations. With diversity come disagreements. A devout Muslim from Saudi Arabia is not going to have the same values as an agnostic bi sexual open relationship couple in the United States. An African American family that is highly religious is not going to have the same values as a bohemian German family. White poor people from the country side are not gonna have the same values as urban African Americans or even urban whites. That’s just a taste of what this country is comprised of and yet we are all expected to get along and live as one people. There are going to be conflicts here you won’t see in Norway where the biggest conflict they face is snow. I know it’s not politically correct but “diversity” isn’t a strength. It’s a liability because people who come from different backgrounds, don’t always get along. Hell just put a white liberal and a white conservative from the same state in a room together and they can’t even get along. America faces issues that these nations don’t. America isn’t like these nations for a reason. And trying to be like them isn’t going to work because America by design isn’t supposed to work like these nations.
I mean no offense to you. You seem like a good hearted person and I will extend an olive branch and agree that community can’t solve every single issue. Government should be run based on morals. Laws should be ratified or struck down for moral reasons. And I’ll even go so far as to say police shouldn’t be decked out in military style gear for everyday patrols short of bad neighborhoods. But I’ve been around police my entire life. I’ve seen these things with my own eyes. I don’t say the things I say to be cruel. I say them because I’ve seen these policies pushed and fail time and again and again. We the people need to step up more. Yes police should be trained more for peace keeping than for fighting but the sad reality is their job is to put themselves in these situations. And when you have less than a second to respond to a threat, you are going to make mistakes. It’s easy to dissect the problem when sitting from afar but when your in the shit it’s all or nothing.
Could you imagine an army of Jocko's? It would be unstoppable.
Navy seals. Jocko trained them for years.
No guns only jujitsu
Square headed, fast muscle twitch fiber!! -P1NGTRIP
I'd like to see an army of skateboard wielding antifa soyboys stop Jockos car with his family inside. The horror, the Horror...
An army of Jockos would be like having 3 Incredible Hulks, or 100 Spartans wearing mjolnir armor. Totally unstoppable.
"Jocko"---The sound Chuck Norris makes when he sneezes.
Nice
Bruce Lee clears his throat...
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Jocko is 100 percent right about this. I left police work exactly because of how people feel about police in this day and age. I grew tired of being called a racist and being screamed at because some yahoo is watching a felony traffic stop and I've got my gun out. I grew tired of being harassed by people shoving their camera phones in my face even though I have a body cam. And I could give a shit if someone filmed me. I don't care. But I did care when people would interfere in the hopes of "going viral". I miss it. I really do, but I'm in a trade now and doing pretty good. And he's right about training. We got 8 hours of hand to hand and 8 hours of ground fighting in the academy. That's it. And for in-service training once a year, we got 8 hours for both. Thankfully, one of the guys in my old agency is a BJJ blackbelt and would hold training sessions for anyone that wanted to show up. There were maybe 30 of us total out of 200 or so deputies that would show up. I miss it every day pretty much, but I can't go back and I pray for my brothers and sisters in blue every day.
Well, the amount of officers that turn off or have "malfunctioning" body cams is a little weird. So if I were you, I'd shut my mouth about things that are perfectly legal. Are you American? "I don't care about being filmed" but you sure do have a lot of resentment about it. What are you doing that you can't be filmed? Wouldn't you be suspicious if some guy didn't let you search his bag or car? Well they're searching your conduct. Deal with it, snowflake.
How can someone dislike the video, when it’s 32min long and it’s only been out for 2 min
Probably a liberal that is offended by facts
Sjws man... sjws
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Jocko is annoying
@@samueladams5243 lmao
Someone should put this Jocko guy in charge of training cops
He used to be a Navy SEAL! That would be awesome!
Use 2 be. He is a seal 4life
For real it should be military experienced people who should join the police force they know how to handle situations like that hands down
Mayra67 Soto yea but military ops usually have ptsd and aren’t mentally stable coming back from war
Get some!
My best friend growing up was a cop. Shot and killed a guy completely justified. Ended up hanging himself. Most never want to have to use their gun
Sorry to hear that man 🙏🏽
@@hoodiejack thanks. I know most are just regular people and would never want to actually take a life. Unfortunately we are all human and some can be real dickheads ruining for the majority of good people
*sees thousands of videos of cops open firing on animals and humans*
Very sorry to hear that. May he Rest In Peace.
@@Rico-hb1rz not thousands. You're a liar. Even if it was. You're talking about thousands out of billions if not trillions of police interactions. Sooooo gtfoh
Thank you, Jocko. This is a well respected US Navy SEAL, telling the country the truth. In my state all that is required to maintain certification is a 24hrs of training a year. Early on in my career I used sick leave to attend a 5 day training course, that was geared towards to ground fighting. The first day we spent 6 hrs in the classroom, the final two hours were spent getting familiar with the simunition glocks, and AR's that we would use for scenarios. The next day we began scenarios immediately. The first few scenarios were all handled using no force at all. I went to lunch, and the first scenario, I was called to a bar fight. As I walked into the "bar" and was immediately grabbed by two guys and the 3rd strolled over and shot me in the head...
This is the perfect conversation for what we truly need.
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So good
The powerful elite
Socialist billionaires want nothing more than to keep us divided and prevent us from talking about monopolies and income inequality
jocko looks like the chef from ratatouille that killed a guy with his thumb
I thought Michael Myers from the opening scene of Halloween 4 was the only person to kill a guy with his thumb.
@@lolololololololol11 The Mountain says hi.
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Cause he was based off of him.
Jk
I suddenly want to see this movie now
Jacko is the man, literally. Love his attitude, kickass, take names and no excuses
Efficient
I too like Jacko
Where is he kicking ass? He is advocating quite the opposite ...
Michael Jacko? He was...complicated. Jocko is the man, though.
Who dislikes this? Honestly curious, because this was just intelligent conversation and Jocko nailed the police brutality issue, absolutely nailed it on the head.
9k ppl disliked this because they saw the title
Police departments are actually overfunded, yet are not accountable to citizens. Qualified immunity and Gonzales vs Castle Rock will keep all those cops in Uvalde from any civil or criminal cases. Bootlickers always blame issues with cops with "Underfunding". Only cops and politicians fail up.
Because Jocko Boko doesn't understand that all cops are bastards. Cops don't protect people, they protect private property of capitalists.
"Defund" the police, but you can't even get your neighbor to turn down their music.
🤣🤣🤣
I think I can
Good one
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😂 it’s funny because I would be the neighbor with the loud music
I like how Joe has been letting the guest actually talk on a subject without interrupting them
HE'S L I S T E N I N G
Elreypachuco I don’t think Jocko was talking over Joe at all. You should see the latest Degrasse-Tyson podcast 😂
He's got more respect for jocko then some other, more soy boy guests that he has sometimes.
J H That was a bad one, Tyson came off as an epic bum hole.
He only talks over people who dont give facts about the thing they're talking about like religion or weed but this is a guys opinion and Joe's just tryna take in his opinion
The training for 20% of the time is a good idea.
but politicians will not think it is worth the money, how can they get a raise if the cops must "lazy about" in the gym 20%of the time?
They spend too much time for military style engagements for something that goes down .01% of the time.
I agree as long as it is not that warrior training zealot.
cant train away the racism though...
@sneksnekitsasnek who are you talking about?
Jocko looks like if Joe joined the military instead of taking acid to find himself.