2015 F80 M3 Basic Overview of Driving the Car
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That shifter looks like its sitting in melted butter.. SO SMOOTH.
I see you have the best anti-theft security system in America optioned in your M3, very nice.
A stick shift :)
I think the F80 M3 sounds absolutely glorious. That low end burble certainly put a smile on my face when I test drove one recently.
That's great news for you man! It really is a good car. But the sound is so contrived and just doesn't work for me.
Yes, it certainly is different to the likes of your GT3. I was a little dubious about the active sound but I have grown to like it now.
great video! its hard to find a review on F80 M3 manual one. thanks! It help me a lot!
Found your channel today and I've been here watching your videos all day. Like you, I'm a car fanatic too. I like to wash, wax, and details my cars too.(Rang Rover Sport, Benz CLK55, BMW 335i coupe... ok sometimes I cheat and get them washed because it can get out of hand) However, you've got all the fun tools and machines. I've learned so much and have realized that I've been doing some steps the wrong way; like using the wrong tools, or using tools incorrectly (I guess I'm the one putting in those swirl marks). Also, that new house is awesome you'll have a lot of land and space to work with-I hope you get it!
Very nice video Matt, enjoyed it alot.
Yes! Finally!! Great video as always, very informative and having a great co-star like the M3 doesnt hurt :P
Matt, i love these type of videos. You should look into doing more videos where you're talking and driving. Enjoyed it a lot ! Have a good one.
Such a great video. Wish more people could do an overview of cars with this much detail. Enjoyed every minute. :) Beautiful car, it's growing on me.
+INumba1Stunna Thanks man! It's growing on me as well. The new wheels I just put on make it pretty sweet.
I completely agree with you on the sound. I just don't find the sound to match the aggressiveness of its cosmetic profile. Once again, top quality video Matt. Keep it up!
Thanks for sharing Matt.
I love these type of reviews! Hope to see more :)
+Freddy Perez I'll do my best.
Im glad you dont like the crackle either. I thought I was the only one. I have the e92 m3, and I cant stand that rice crackle.
Thanks for this, love this car. It's a goal for me! But for now I'm enjoying it through your videos. :p
Thank you for sharing all your thoughts, helps a lot!
+Dietger Piot Yep!
New house is gonna be sweet! Cant wait to see what the garage will look like built from the ground up
Your videos are done so professionally, I really like the content. Just a bit less complaining would be great. Thanks!
Your comments are worth their weight in gold. Appreciate your honesty and taking the time to make videos. I am also concerned about how this car sounds.
+goons123flofy Thanks man!
Great video Matt. I agree with you on the spiffing during high rev gear changes, it would get irritating after a while. I personally would love an E46 m3 for a bit of old school fun next summer but it's so hard to find one that hasn't been thrashed.
+sparkyire1983 I think I'd like to have one someday too.
I have to agree. The sound in the higher RPMs bothers me also. I had an E46 M3 before I bought my F80 M3 and I like the sound of my F80 a little better. However, I feel like my E 46 had a special feeling to it and the lines on the car are timeless. Great video.
I think your car sounds pretty good from the inside but I'm with you, they do sound kind of funny on the outside.
great video matt
All I do is watch car videos and your are by far the best I currently own a 2013 wrx but hopefully upgrading to a e92 m3 wish I could get a f80 but currently can't afford that but keep making great videos
You're doing better than me.....I drive an Integra(which I love) and hope to one day own a black ap2 S2000. A black E92 6 speed M3 is a supercar for me!😉
+sdvdub1 I'll keep attempting to make cool stuff (at least I think it's cool...). I love the WRX.
+Alex Moran It's all relative. A 991 GT3 is a supercar to me.
Same here man, i now drive an M140i xdrive.
Its almost the same engine, so running costs for an M3 don't bother me.
But buying an F80 M3 is within my grasp in a few years.
Great video!! Thanks man
I think it's special - but I have a '17 ZCP. And I traded in my 981 CS for it, which was also special.
The sound is pretty good to my ears, I just wish it were louder, especially in the cabin. I don't think I would change anything else.
dmb251013 Agreed it’s a VERY special car I have a 17 F80 M3 aswell myself and love it
no idea why he would even say that lol
Nice video Matt, keep the good work; FYI - I have the akrapovic with AR downpipes (racing cats) and love the sound, I know this is not the best sounding car but way better than stock, I have the same interior you have but mine is silverstone 👍🏻
+Gilberto Melendez I had the Akra for a while. It a work of art.
great informative video Matt. Your car is super nice! Dream car right there
+Elton Fernandes Thanks Elton!
Great video! I enjoyed hearing your opinions on the car!
I have a quick question. When you're coming to a stop and eventually shift to neutral from whatever gear you were in, why do you shift to 2nd before going into 1st? Is it a habit sort of thing or is there a technical reason for doing so? I've never had a manual car before.
+wu4533 It's an old habit that I started when I was 16. My mom had a Subaru XT where I learned how to drive. In order to get the synchros to align it was easier to put the car in 2nd then 1st. So now it just happens without me thinking about it.
Thinking about selling my 2015 STI and picking up a 2017 M3... hopefully I don't regret it. I feel like driving the GT3 probably makes the M3 feel more lackluster. I may just do the Dinan stage 1 tune and keep it pretty much stock. Seems like a great DD, and I'm sure my fiancé will like being a passenger in the M3 vs my STI
The M3 will be a much better daily driver than the STI. I would also guess the RWD will help offset the difference in fun between the two.
Great video Matt really enjoyed it, ever think of bringing it to a track?
+joe g I'm going to Sebring on the 28th.
You should go back to your e92. Yours was the most gorgeous m3 I've ever seen.
+Sarin Murlidar I will have another one. Hopefully in 2016.
Matt, I know how you feeling because I had e92 m3 about 3 years since brand new and it was my first M car too so it is very special car to me and never forget. I own m4 now and still missing v8 linear feeling but I like m4 too hah. Btw Pretty good road conditions your area :) please keep post your enjoying car life on youtube.
+dohoh87 Yeah, the roads in FL are good but very straight.
It's worth mentioning that most of the country is shoveling snow and you're over here driving in shorts and a t-shirt through green fields! hahaha, I live in phoenix AZ so I'm in similar attire
+singletrackftw Yep! I love FL this time of year.
I have quite a similar setup, Mineral White on Orange with Carbon Fiber trim, 19 in. wheels, adaptive suspension and 6-spd. I coded off the active sound which made a big difference for me, I couldn't stand the fake "V8" engine sound. Also I can hear the turbos spool up now which is nice. Euro MDM is a solid upgrade but it allows twice as much yaw so you have to be careful. I thought I would hate the rev assist but it's one of my favorite features, it makes daily driving such a pleasure.
Funny enough, I like the fake overrun, in the city it creates a large echo off the buildings which entertains me...also after 8k miles my exhaust has become rather deep sounding at lower rpms, burbly actually. It's my DD also, my previous car was a 997 Carrera S so I can understand how this car doesn't have a sense of occasion like older models but I feel that's the case for most new cars. If the budget allowed I would have a 997 GT3 along with it for the weekend car.
+windnsea03 I need to get a cable/software to code Euro MDM and active sound off. You just motivated me to get moving on it.
Late to the party, as it were, but I fully understand your point around 21:00. I drove an M3 and did not think much of it (other than having a manual transmission) but I also cannot afford a 997 GT3, so I'll probably end up in one as some kind of first-world default option.
Great video! I would like to know why you keep your foot on the clutch when your starting the car ? You kept your foot for the first 2minutes. I tough it's was not good for the clutch (trow out bearing or something like that) ?
Mechanically that is true, but it's more of an old wives tale that has propagated car guy society. I've never in my life heard of anyone having an issue.
And I personally like the customization options for suspension, power train and steering. It might be more useful on a different car (my dad has the CLS63) but I like ability to go to a really nice ride and then to no body roll
+Grant Rodgers I think you're in the majority. Most people prefer the options. In my crazy world, it makes my brain hurt.
Great video! I wish you made this video months ago so I could have showed my gf that I'm not the only one who drives his F80 daily.
+Nick Huggins Ha, ha... My wife is in the same camp.
I love the mature perspective you bring to owning an M3. It's obvious you're not a pro driver, and you admit as much, but you're a "good driver", you shift very smoothly and at the proper RPM for an everyday m3 owner. If I may, I really feel you should take your car to the track. Maybe you have, but based on what I see, you haven't, or maybe you're just extremely careful on public roads (which I respect). Owning an m3 on the road is one thing, taking the m3 to the track will open up a whole new level of respect for the handling of the car, which is what m3's have been known for since their inception with the e30, and then the e36 of the more modern era. They have perfect balance, and always have. Take this thing to the track bud, learn what it means to be a real m3 owner.
I had it at Sebring in May. It's just not my cup of tea. I took the GT3 to AMP. So I hit my quota for the next few years.
great vids Matt Going to do my own youtube car stuff with my nsx . Thanks
+Brian Rutledge Heck yeah, do it man. Love the NSX.
Completely agree with you on older BMW manual M transmissions. Especially the Getrag 6sp in the E46 M3 with the stock shifter is just really awkward and rough to shift - even with clutch valve delete and a good fluid. A shorter, weighted shift knob helps but nowhere near the Porsche gearboxes I've tried.
+getdealtwithquick For some reason, I think the BMW engineers prefer smooth and soft rather than direct and mechanical.
excellent video
Thankyou for driving a manual M3, that is the way it should be!
+Daniel San I agree.
+Matt Moreman I got my F80 in manual also.
From cold Central PA after the big snowfall and wishing I was in Florida, just checked out this vid. Love watching the Steelers Game too!!!! Advised my M.L. Investment Counselor and my BMW dealer to check you out. Told them, "this guy is intense". Will be watching for your new garage to take shape, if the plan to move is still in place.
+Kerry Glock I'm from Hazleton, so I know your pain.
Hey Matt. so i had the m235. switched to the 17 M3 recently. was amazed by the power in first few weeks. already used to it. what can I do
Have you done exhaust and tune? That would be the next step.
Nice Video! enjoyed it a lot.
+David Mudrik Thanks!
Matt, code out the active sound. Think you will be bothered less.
+Joe Tacchino I need to stop procrastinating and get it done.
Awesome review thanks.. With the car seats in the back are you comfortable with your seating. Im 6'1 and thinking about purchasing the M3 sedan and would need room for car seats. Thanks again.
+991 C4 Yes, there is plenty of room for me at 6'2" with the seat behind me. The baby seat goes behind the passenger, but there is still plenty of room.
+Matt Moreman Thank you.
Hi Matt… extemely late to the party here - but have been watching your M5 F10 posts too… if you were to choose between the 2 vehicles - which one would you pick? Thanks so much for creating OG… best motoring channel on YT 👊🏻
I would choose the F10 M5.
i have golf r 2015 what would you get for more fun
Great video. Can't wait to see your new wheels. Congrats on the new house as well. 6 acres is awesome! How is the car in heavier rain? Does it get squirrelly when dealing with standing water? Also, can you fit in the back seat? How is the room back there for an adult? Is it even usable? Thanks.
+lys1395 The car is good in the rain. The Michelin PSS are such a great tire. I can fit in the back with ease. I can actually sit behind my seating position without having to sit sideways. Head room is good.
+Matt Moreman Thanks for responding! Merry Christmas!
By the way, you should think about selling your radar to get the max 360 its awesome with pointing arrows, you can switch the led colors on it, the red one is identical to the orange light in the M3 it matches perfectly
+Gilberto Melendez I just looked it up. Looks right up my ally. Maybe I could convince them to send me one to review. Ha, ha...
I'm sure you've addressed this so my apologies-- What sold you on the 6MT? Mine is on order(2016 F80) for a week 5 production date but I'm struggling to pick b/w a DCT and manual. Thanks.
+Michael Lewis I'm a diehard manual guy. I'm not worried about winning any races, so I enjoy the connection with the car that manual provide. The 6MT derived from the 1M in the F80 is so much better than the one in the E92.
That shifter looks soo smooth...🐴
Hi Matt ! I want just to ask you if you could tel me why do you chose manual gear box for your M3? Why not automatically gear box!? Thank you
+VacheRO The F80 M3 feel very "digital" to me with all the technology, turbos, etc. I think the manual helps to balance the driving experience. It makes it not feel so boring. I also think the S55 is well suited for a manual transmission.
So you have had this car for some time now, how do you feel about it? how good is it? I have a tuned 335i and i realy like that car and i was thinking about getting the F80 in the future, how does it feel to drive? i accually like the sound this car makes so i wounder how good it is on the streets.
The aesthetics of this car are second to none. I actually like the way it looks more than my GT3. The only thing I don't really like about it is the sound, so if you like the sound, I don't see how you couldn't love the car.
Great video Matt. As weird as it may sound I'm having a hard time deciding between the f80 M3 and a Subaru WRX STI. I have kids and need the car as a daily driver. Your comment about the M3 not feeling special hit me a bit, and I'm concerned about spending twice the amount of an STI for it. We don't get much snow where live (maybe a month of possible snow) and I would love to get your thoughts about my choices. Thanks and your videos are great!
+harinderlotay You'll have to get behind the wheel of one, and you'll know. Most don't share my opinion and think I'm crazy.
Hey Matt do you think the M perfomance exhaust improves the sound significantly?
+Sam B Yes, I think so. I think an aftermarket exhaust is a must.
how does the clutch pedal feel when you shift ? do you feel vibration of the rpms on the clutch pedal ? usually only in reverse or 1-2 ... is that normal ?
I did not experience any of that with mine. The clutch on this car was non obtrusive.
Matt, what about a vintage porsche or vintage BMW? Do you have any affinity for any particular models? It seems as if you would appreciate the pure & mechanical driving experience of an older car. I am an E30 guy personally.
+William DiPasquale For some reason, I'm a "new model" snob. I've thought about this a lot. I think I'm a sucker for technology, so I almost always prefer the modern option over anything older. When I go to a car event, I find myself walking right past the air-cooled cars and E30s. I just don't have that natural attraction like I probably should. Oh well, I guess it's okay to just choose what we like rather than forcing it.
Hi Matt,
I picked up a couple weeks ago a new 6MT F80 M3 and noticed that when in Sport+ between 4th and 5th and also between 5th and 6th, if I let go of the clutch AND give some gas, I feel some ""slip" and can hear a strange sound.
The more I press on the gas pedal, the more it will "slip" and louder will be that weird sound.
Have you experienced the same thing?
Thanks in advance!!
+Julien Durand I'm haven't noticed this. My guess is that is the Clutch Delay Valve causing the clutch to slip to protect it.
Thanks Matt! I will ask the dealer on my first service.
I kinda noticed that you kept shifting from 2nd to 1st when you came to a stop sign, is it out of habit or is that doing something for the transmission?
+Sean Kim It out of habit. Most all cars go smoother into first gear from second. They synchros align and allow you to enter first without the clunk. But I'm guessing it's not necessary on modern cars. I've been doing it for about 20 years.
What forums do you read? And also would the M5 be any good in terms of the sound and the "fart" noises the M3 makes?
+austin longenecker I don't think the M5 does it as badly.
You sound like you would love an Supercharged Audi RS4 , it's definitely got the sound , sifter , and comfort you look for. Ever thought about an RS4?
+Ryan C I had a modified B8 S4. I did not like it.
+Matt Moreman Well I should have specified. I was talking about the B6, or B7? 4.2L V8. Btw I used to be a detailer at an Audi/Porsche Dealership and helped deliver a bunch of 991 GT3's , incredible cars.
how is turbo lag, i am in the exact same position you were. Love my S4 but just wish i could get more power out of it.. so i have decided for my next daily i am getting an F80 M3.
Turbo lag isn't really an issue with this car. There is a tiny delayed throttle response, but lag isn't something you'd complain about.
Matt Moreman have you heard of gintani?
Sure, they make good stuff.
Matt Moreman i was looking into their tune and downpipes, do you still have the AWE exhaust on the F80? everything i have heard for it is not that good but the awe sounds good on your car
I still like it. The F80 in general sounds like crap, but the AWE does as good of a job as it can.
Just watched ur whole video :) Shout out from Bucharest Romania. U have a new subscriber :D
Hey Matt your M3 is badass but what do you think about the M5 and why didn't you buy it instead?
The M5 is not much of a sports car. It is much bigger.
I agree with you almost completely on everything you said about this car. Great looks, weird sound. What do you think about the sound of the new C63 in comparison?
+Michael Klein The C63 sounds great, but I hate the styling, transmission, and interior of that car.
+Matt Moreman yeah thats the same problem I have with all the new amgs. Sound and engine are amazing, but styling, especially the rear, is not my style.
I am sure someone asked it, but have you considered a M5? TTV8 and better sound than m3 for me. But there is no manual option for it right? At least in germany there is none.
+Matt Moreman Same. The new C63 is just so ugly. Only solution is change exhaust on the M3/M4 :D
Well I disagree about the looks but that's all personal preference of course.
Michael Klein I mean seriously it looks like a egg.
Can you do another with the new wheels? Don't have long like this one
+Mark David I will be doing one very soon on the wheels and suspension.
Haha. Gotta do a vid one day about neighbors hating you.
Do you ever wish you got the new C63s over the F80 m3? If not, what are your thoughts on that car? Keep up the awesome videos brother!
+HitmanAtM16 No, I've never considered a C63. It just doesn't suit my personality. I love the idea of a TT V8, but the styling, interior, transmission in that car don't work for me.
I feel you on the engine. If the M3 had a TT v8, i feel it would solve its major issue
Why did you get rid of your E92?
I spy a Giant anthem... are you getting into mountain biking? It's a great way to get your cardio in, as well as an overall body workout and its way more fun than running!
+singletrackftw I've been into Adventure Racing, but ride my bike to the gym regularly.
Quick question, with any of your cars, have you gotten any dents? How do you personally go about getting them corrected?
+Idris Tokhi Knock on wood, I haven't gotten a dent in several years. If I did, I find a local Dent Wizard guy to pull it.
I will knock for you! Excited for the new garage!
What have you done in the m3 pretty sure the dinan removed the top speed limiter i hit 160 in my 2015 335 before the limiter hit
+ps3lover45x I think I've only hit mid 140s in the M3.
What are your thoughts on the new M2 ?
+Japanese Sportscars Essence I'm a little torn on it. I think it sounds good, but wish it had more aggressive rear fenders.
I have a question, can you skip gears with the automatic rev matching feature or have you to go in a row with the gears? Sorry for the Bad english^^
You can choose any gear and the car will match the necessary revs.
Very Nice Feature from BMW, thank you for the answer👍🏼
have you done a video like this for your GT3?
+Isaac Gonzales Yep. There is one on my page. I hope to do some more of this stuff.
Matt,
Which camera are you using to film this video? Also, are you using an external mic?
Thanks!
This is a Go Pro Hero 4 Silver inside and a Session on the roof. I'm using this mic: amzn.to/27WtykX
Thank you Matt!
Thanks for the video. Is the M3 better than a Subaru WRX?
That's a good question. I haven't spent much time in a WRX. I would think the STI would be much closer and certainly sounds better, but the M3 wins in looks, performance, and build quality.
have you ever thought about getting a army trix exhaust upgrade
+BlueRattleSnake3 No, iPE and Army Trix aren't my bag. Taiwanese marketing companies don't make very good exhausts. They do a good job on UA-cam and shady posts on the forums, but I'm not a fan of their quality or sound.
Matt love your vids
I'm debating an individual Mexico Blue m4 $82k build or an individual Nardo Grey 340 $60k build. I know these are very different cars but just wanted to get your feedback. I currently have a 2010 M5 and a 2012 A6 3.0 and want to get rid of both.
+Soultraveler I'm a little biased, but I'd definitely chose the M3 over 340i. That being said. I'd chose CCBs over Individual paint, but that's just me.
+Matt Moreman Thanks Matt im guessing your not a fan of the m4 then?
+Soultraveler Sorry, I meant M4. I prefer the look of the M3, but would get the M4 if I didn't have kids.
Good video,think you've convinced me not to change my E92 M3 for this but what do you get for similar $?
+Q Keep the E92 and supercharge it.
Also you might have done a video on this but how reliable do you think is your radar detector?
+Grant Rodgers I need to do a write-up. The Passport Max does an okay job.
+Matt Moreman yeah I feel like some of the more integrated ones do a better job. Even the escort redline does pretty well I hear.
+Grant Rodgers You have to remember the Redline and V1 have much better range, but with that range comes tons of false alarms. Even with the custom settings on the V1 it still goes off like crazy. I like the max because it does a decent job and remembers automatic doors and false alarms due to onboard GPS. It also has the redlight camera database. The 8500ci with AI Priority laser jammer system would be awesome, but who wants to spend $5,000 on each car to get it done? Not me.
+Matt Moreman yeah that's more than you'll spend on tickets ever. I don't really mind the false alarms, but the V1 was just too much.
no there are there but would you recommend convertible that's what I think also I think e 93 is more comfy roomy and luxurious
The E93 is 400 lbs. heavier, so it's not a great car.
Did you get the memo that the 2016 F8X has an updated part in the exhaust and it sounds a lot better?
+Felix Pfaltermann Yes, but no it doesn't sound much different.
Matt Moreman Yeah, it is an improvement, but it doesn't address the fundamental fart-flaw. Thanks for sharing the video. Your GT3 is gorgeous- perfect color choice. Have you tracked your F80? If you mentioned this in your video and I missed it I apologize.
+Felix Pfaltermann I haven't, but I've been on the track three separate days in an F80/82.
If you are a critic of car exhaust, are you really ok with m3/m4 exhaust, even if any aftermarket exhaust? Just curious.
+Jason L It depends on what day you ask me. The thing definitely sounds weird.
Yea.... I kinda think the sound is dry and just not as great as it could be. Still, a fun car for commute, especially with that stick shift man!
why do you always go to 1st for like half a second and then 2nd to make a turn or leave a stop sign?
Ever notice how a car kind of clunks into first gear as a precaution to make sure you don't accidentally money shift from 2nd to 1st when you were trying to go to third? If you first shift into 2nd when stopped, then 1st, the synchros align and eliminate the clunk.
ah okay great tip!
RPMs aren't actually higher on cold starts to help warm the engine or cats up. On cold starts, the a/f mixture must be richer than usual to compensate for the fact that gasoline takes a lot longer to vaporize when it's cold (which is why more gas is used). Engines running rich don't make as much power and cold engines tend to have a lot more resistance (oil is thicker), so the RPMs are higher so the engine doesn't stall.
Catalytic converters on most new cars are located nearer to the headers because it speeds up the time it takes to warm them up to optimal operating temperatures.
I'd always read about cold start and cats, but none of those sources were definitive. I'd be interested to read more about it.
I'm not too sure, but I think it would be a byproduct of the engine revving higher. Although, richer mixtures tend to burn cooler than a mixture that is stoich. Now I don't own a BMW (335i possibly soon), so you may be right
The goal is to get the vehicle into "Closed Loop" faster for emission purposes. The goal is get the engine up to operating temp faster in order to reduce time vehicle is putting out more pollution.
That is what I've always understood.
what rpms does this hold in 6th gear at 70? I asked this for the GT3 also lol.
+livalittle100 I think it's just shy of 3,000.
Which camera have you used in interior of this video?
+Ihor Bayus Canon 5D MK III
Love the courtesy revs! Haha
+Mahindan Velupillai It always makes me smile. Ha, ha...
I truly believe you are a engineer or something..I never saw any youtubers series to make detail videos like you.
You got it. BS in Electrical Engineering '02.
What a coincidence i also work as an Electrical Engineer. Are you running your own business?
Obsessed Garage because of your videos, I just got my 2017 f80. I don't have that much money. I still want to do some modifications. What do you think change pass tire? Muffler delete? Or down pipes. Thank you.
what part of fl do you live in? where’s “good” driving roads around orlando etc?
The Villages. Clermont/Minneola/Ferndale is the best we've got.
Obsessed Garage awesome thank you!
Which mount are you using and will the detector remove easily for hiding?
+Justin Loving It's a Blendmount, and yes it comes off in seconds. Although, unless you're in Virginia, it shouldn't really matter.
I just like to hide it from burglars...
+Justin Loving Ah.... Smart. I forget about that kind of stuff where I live we don't have a problem.
Downtown Houston....Its annoying.
i'm thinking of getting a Sedan e92 M3 What are your thoughts on those?
+Wasiu Adeyeye I love the E90 M3. I'm hoping to get an E92 again at some point in the near future.
+Matt Moreman That just made me happy about my E92 m3 more....had it for almost 2 years now and I never get sick of her....like your new m3 too.
Exhaust name?
Hi Matt ! You never say a thing about the HarmanKardon system and im wondering your opinion on this, because you're experienced at this and you have a pretty good system in your gt3 to compare.
How it's sounds ? Good, Bad, or between ? Can you compare it with the system you done for the GT3 ? M3 must have more potential, better isolation and space for the speakers i know there are subs under the seats too and some people say even burnmaster audio in 911's costs much more and sounds pretty bad compare to HK in bmw's.
I'm not a audiophile, i'm more like a sound enthusiasts. I probably spent more money to headphones than my smartphone. All my music's are purchased and 256Kbps AAC files so i dont stream crappy mp3 files.
Would you do same system for the M3 if the money and time wasn't a issue or is it good enough like it doesn't need it and it only makes %10 to 20 improvement, is there a major difference between the dynaudio and HK that will worth the money ?
İn where i live HK is a 2.527€ option by the way
+Excalibur I actually don't mind the HK system. It has a parametric EQ and isn't overly harsh like most factory HK systems. I do intend to upgrade it to this soon. bavsound.com/ Plug and play, low cost, and a minor improvement to an already decent system. You are right the environment in the M3 is much better for a quality audio system than the GT3. Sitting in the garage with the engine off my aftermarket GT3 system is world's better. Driving the HK holds it own.
+Matt Moreman Thanks for the answer. i will totally wait for your opinion on Bavsound system, before i do something. :) But i think i will go for something that will make more difference than the Bavsound. İf i had the factory system i would go for it , but i really don't think bavsound will make that much difference than the already pretty good HK system.
I'm looking for something that will make me say "Wow" after the HK's.I really don't see a point to spent money for something that will make minor improvements. My mentality is if im gonna spent some money i want it to be worth, even though it costs a little expensive.
One more thing: What you think about Bang & Olufsen system which offered in the 5-6-7 series that costs nearly 10k ? İt looks reeeeally cool, but i have no idea about the sound.
+Excalibur B&O is always a lot more show than go. I know many forum guys have upgraded their B&O system.
+Matt Moreman Thanks again for your really really honest answer man. What i learned from this conversation is never go with factory systems, if you're a picky guy.
You going to give the AA exhaust a chance? Mines waiting for install :)
+Shannon Hutcheson I doubt it. I'm not a fan of quad 100mm tips.
+Matt Moreman they come in 90mm now! Best sounding exhaust out and I thought you might like the one that reduces the fart ;)
+Shannon Hutcheson Hmm.... I did not know that! I'm about to make some changes to the car. I'm doing JRZ RS Sport suspension, Macht Schnell Wheel Studs, ESS Flash Tune. Since the ESS tune allows me to eliminate the over run and cold start, I'm thinking about doing downpipes. The AWE non-res isn't going to work with them.
+Matt Moreman check them out. Hand made, no flaps, single mid pipe, and a good deal. Can't wait to get mine on!
+Shannon Hutcheson I know AA well. For some reason, their stuff hasn't appealed to me. RC in town has the AA. I didn't have a chance to hear it.
Hmmm i have e93 but i just cant gel with the dct and i dont like having to do 8300rpm to get it moving and i know the manual wont suit that engine so considering f83 manual but much prefer the looks of the e93 and the sound
I say never buy a convertible M3. 400 pounds heavier is not a good thing.
@@ObsessedGarage yes but for me having the top down adds more fun than any other single point alone. I have had some very lightweight cars but the m3 hides the weight well and handles amazingly well around twisty roads, yes on a track i would slow me down significantly but for daily fun i love it and the kids love it too so its invaluable to me.