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- Game of Thrones | Season 8 Episode 1 | Reaction & Review | "Winterfell"
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Discussion/Review: 45:52 - 55:36
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The comments here have been rough and whiny since S7. These viewers hated the show (last few seasons) so much, that they’re still here-whining and want you guys to hate it as well.
Who does that? There was a time I loved Prison Break or Stranger Things. But once I didn’t enjoy it anymore, I just stopped watching. Why would anyone try to be a bummer, or force their opinions to others? It’s been 4 years. Why are they still in every reaction video posting negative comments? Why not just move on? Just wondering.
Can y'all do parts of the "Now Our Watch Has Ended" special after? Not everything, but the controversial parts of it.
The theory is when Dany burned the body of her first husband Drogo, he re-incarnated into the Drogon the biggest dragon and that is why he is bigger and more independent than the other dragons. So the drogon looking Jon as he kisses Dany is confirming this theory to be true and was angry seeing another man kissing his wife because Drogon wasn’t there for the relationship with the other guy. R R Martin said nothing is done by accident in these stories, like the dragon who is now with the Night King is the Dragon named after her brother who betrayed her.
@@jsnow5754did you live under a rock when a million petitions were signed to redo season 8 of the show? Also Dumb and Dumber AKA the writers lost their upcoming projects because even the actors for the show thought the writing was terrible. It’s an amazing show for 6 seasons then it’s garbage. Like honestly don’t put others down because they demand better from their entertainment.
I love that Bran has become Winterfell's cat just sitting there silently judging everybody
This 🤣🤣
Every smug cat knows everything! Of course....oops yeah, nah,nah....
I think D&D was kinda clueless about his character. He sat like a tree the whole time doing nothing. When he said, "why did you think I came all this way?" I was like tf!! That was his motive!? Didn't he say he can't be lord of anything? Did Hodor die for this? He became three eyed raven and than act like nothing but a useless drone.
Yep most wasted character lol. I expected him to worg into some insane shit or something all he does is sit around judging and flying ravens about
@@mishubakhtiar8200 HE CAN'T BE LORD BECUASE HE WANTED TO BECOME KING AFTER OTHERS DO THE WORK
Bran waiting “for an old friend” in the courtyard and then the face-to-face with Jaime at the end is so iconic
" I don't think it will be rushed"😂😂... Oh you sweet summer child
lmao yeah we're literally missing 27 episodes. it has to be the all-time TV record for rushing things
😂😂
@@LMarti13 they at least could have done full seasons 7 and 8. That choice was baffling! Though they would have needed at least one season to let it build organically.
We just didn't watch travel time or side stories.
Spartan saying "The build up could have been a bit better" sums up this entire season
"The build up coul have been better"
my boy spartan doesn't know yet how right he is.
and so it begins...
That's gonna be a theme this season
@@sbj2k1 No...now it ends
"We've waited for something like this for so long"
Oh, you sweet, summer child. You waited months... we waited years...
(Just teasing, of course)
For the scene in which Qyburn is giving Bron his mission on behalf of the queen, there's a good reason she's not there to offer it herself. The actors who played Cersi and Bron dated IRL, and the breakup was so bad that their contracts stipulated that they'd never be in the same room.
Wow I’ve loved this show for the longest time and never heard this
it’s true i’m the contract
It's why at the dragon pit in S7, bronn says "come on pod let's go get a drink" out of nowhere 😂
What about table readings?
@@stephanielomeli6950 It's true I was the crossbow
You both are too kind ❤Thanks for the nice words and the shoutout. Im thrilled I can have some involvement in these awesome videos. You both are HANDS DOWN the best to cover this series! We gotta have an in depth chat about it again next time we see each other.
-Ange
I love how in Season 1 Ned said “ when we next see each other, I will tell you about your mother.”
Now in S8, here he is standing in front of Neds grave, being told the truth about his mother.
But Ned never learned that R & L were actually married, and that Jon was legitimately Rhaegar's heir.
@@ogieogiethe child's name would not have been Aegon Targaryen if it was a bastard, and Lyanna told Ned Aegon's name. He knew.
@@ogieogieYou must not know what you’re talking about, eh? Just saying incorrect shit with such confidence
The payoffs man
I love the forehead kiss Jon gave Bran the last time he saw him and the moment they were reunited again.
Sam and Jon conversation hurts when you know what will happen
Sansa’s question to Jon about Dany is valid, because Dany had already pledged she was going to fight with the North and Jon gave up his crown afterwards when he didn’t have to. So it wasn’t just he bent the knee because it was the only way to save the North, that’s actually an excuse. He bent the knee because he chose to do it, once again making a decision without consulting Sansa or anyone else in their family. They all spent all that time trying to get their home back, trying to get their independence, Sansa is understandably miffed that Jon gave it all up so quickly, especially when it really didn’t have to happen.
Jon is the king ,it was his desicion
Thank you!
@@drrohanjacob5343 bad decision. Jon is too impulsive to be King.
@@kidgforce1 Jon would be a terrible king.
Often he courted the outsider and got his own ppl against him like at the nightswatch with the wildlings.
But he was still king of the north and without him dany would have most likely burnt the north down
@@drrohanjacob5343 Okay, your point? Him being the king and making decisions doesn’t mean his decisions don’t effect how his own people might feel. Robb was King and it was his decisions, yet it got him killed. Jon was Lord Commander and it was his decisions and that got him killed. If you’re a leader and all you care about is your authority and not looking to even bother to read the mood of the room, then you’re not a very good leader.
This episode was actually made to remind the people of the very 1st episode and the arrival of the king, the same theme is actually playing as well!
Starts with the arrival on the King's Road, ends with Bran and Jaime!
'The King's Arrival' Jeffrey bouncing up and down on his horse, the Hound's helm flapping, Arya once being that lil boy, Cersei being a complete bxtch w her messy hair, Robert calling Ned fat and not giving af about his wife's grievances. Iconic.
Nothing compares to the Jon and Sansa reunion. It was so unexpected. And it was after so much trauma and grief for both of them. The music, the acting (shock), the embrace. My God. I cried each time I thought about that for days.
It was the first one. Classic GoT, though, to make the first and most touching reunion happen between two characters who didn't even have any (onscreen and in any case not particularly friendly) interaction before,don't you think? 😂 (but, then again, they weren't the same people anymore and had been through so much, so on the other that's actually particularly (!) appropriate... gottta love that story!)
Yep. All of the others, and I mean literally all of them-not just the Stark/Stark reunions-fell very, very flat. It’s so unfortunate that they spent so much time on cock jokes and fanservice instead of on genuine emotional impact and build-up.
In that conversation between Sansa and Tyrion, Sansa showed how much she understood Cersei, because she was at her mercy in the first few seasons, and learnt to adapt. Sansa knows that Cersei won't send an army because she only cares about herself and her children.
Lets not forget that no one thinks she is the smartest character ever😂
@@drrohanjacob5343 except for Arya for some reason.
@@mellemadswoestenburg1296She is no one
It was a pun😂😂
@@drrohanjacob5343 oh shit. Sorry for that. I'm such an idiot.🤣🤣🤣
@@mellemadswoestenburg1296👍😂
22:00 _"Having seen that Dany’s come with literal wagonloads of dragonglass, we’re also supposed to believe she brought no food?"_
*-TURTLE PACED*
She better shouldn´t have burned all these Wagons full of food in the Reach.
@@kidgforce1that's part of the plan, did you forget?
@@Aydan2108 who´s plan?
@@kidgforce1Tyrions
well wehre would all these magic wagons of food come from? In realirty medieval armies were not very big becuase they were very hard to supply. A medievel economy has susbistence levels of farming. There isn't tons of free food going around to supply large armies. It also takes an enormous effort to supply that food (in those wagons - whose mules/horeses/oxen also have to be fed). And we're in Autumn/Winter as well. So guess what, not quite as easy as one might think to supply armies with food.
With the little boy climbing like Bran and the Army marching in to Winterfell & the music playing in hte background, that was a nod to the Pilot.
Have you guys considered revisiting House of The Dragon after GOT proper is over to see what else you might pick up and get out of the story now that you’re familiar with the world more?
I second this. That would be amazing
Thirded
YES. Let's do this
Let’s make this happen!!!!!
Yes!!
Poor poor Spartan… his suffering at Pudgey’s love/like/hate list chaos is gold 😂
Jon: I don"k know how to ride a dragon.
Dany: Of course you know, you practiced on me last night!
Jon fills Spartan's void, love it.
Arya and the Hound hug?? That's not who they are.
I think in the context of the show, Jon is supposed to be about 16 or 17 when the show starts and maybe 22 at this point. So he would still be quite young. In the books he and Robb are both about 14 when the Story begins so they're even younger.
14? Started the books in 1996 and now the series won't end cuz George is garbage, now everyone is 40
Omg I love rewatching this show with reactors because I get to catch little things that I missed the first time (just finished it about a month ago and have already rewatched like twice and I’m addicted to anything GOT lmao 🤣)
Like when Pudgey pointed out that if Jon gets to ride a dragon and If the dragon is Rheagar it would be his dad’s name! I never caught that and it’s a cool little thing to think of. There are many foreshadowing things that I find after and it’s interesting.
Good luck with the channel guys, I love your outlook and chemistry together! Be well all ♥️✌🏻♥️
(29:37) The problem with cutting the tongues out of your crew is they can't sound the alarm when your boat, The Silence, is attacked.
Pretty sure u can still make loud noises without a tongue
True, unless vocal cords were removed too.
I love that Jon is riding a dragon named after his father ❤
yeah but bonding with dragon was non existing compare to HOTD
@@queenxx1690 Yeah I was wondering about that. Definitely a big writing mistake.
The bronn actor and cersie actor were supposed to have scenes together, but they used to date and didn't have a good end so they never did any scene together. In this episode too it was Qyburn who ordered Bronn to kill tyrion and jamie.
Massive understatement there.
Their relationship ended so badly that there was a court order issued that they legally could not be in the same room together.
People will pick one of them to blame for their relationship being so bad, but in reality after hearing their grievances against each other, a judge decided that the best thing for everyone, especially innocent bystanders, that those two just not be allowed near each other again.
Now that is scary.
When you worship money over morals that's always the outcome
@@TruthLives-ee6sf In what way did they earn money while not being moral?
Watching you guys grow to love this show is incredible, thank YOU for for sharing this journey with us!💕 bring on house of the dragon season 2!!
Lol yeah… up until they said season 7 was good. They don’t see the terrible writing in the whole getting a zombie thing and wasting a dragon along the way? Really? 😂😭
@@jonathanlorio3265 So, you don't like them anymore because they love something you don't like?
@@jonathanlorio3265 Because unlike you they liked it. When you can start to accept that people like the last few seasons you can move on with your life. And I say again, If you hate it so much, why are you watching reactions to it over and over? That just makes no sense to me.
@@CSVideosNET I just never get these people. If you don't like it, why are you watching reactions to it? Then getting annoyed when the reactors don't agree with you. I have seen dozens of reactions to this series and only ONE reactor didn't like the last seasons. Yet these people keep watching the reactions again and again hoping, no, not hoping, KNOWING the reactors will hate it too. And when it never happens, they get pissy. LOL.
Final season of GOT guys !! But thankfully HOTD is not done so we're excited to see your reactions to those when it comes!!
there will be plenty more
Massive delay to HOTD though, writers strike, then the actors strike.
@@CubejamF1 they confirmed that the actors of HOTD cannot strike because the strike in doesn't affect them
@@CubejamF1no delay on HOTD. S2 is airing next year is planned
"I feel like the buildup to that could've been better." That's season 8 in a nutshell.
That's the only problem I feel it had; all the events worked in themselves, but needed more connective tissue between them.
There could easily have been two full seasons made out of it.
I Know, for me the show runners got to the point the needed, I understand that at least, but it’s true that it’s rush and there are many things that could have been done better, if not more seasons we could have been given a full ten episodes seasons 7 and 8, for the very least.
That's where season 7 failed.
@nicholassmith7984 they waited over a decade for Martin to put out the next book (which he STILL hasn't done). They had to consolidate or cut a lot of storylines already like Jayne Poole & Sansa or Lady Stoneheart. All of those layers Martin is known for they would never have been able to do justice with just making up their own random convoluted side stories. So they focused on the main story. For me especially rewatching I'd love an abridged version, the early seasons drag at many points.
I can’t believe how quickly it feels that season 8 reactions have come with you. I’ve followed your journey from start to finish love you guys
You will be my first reactions to watch of season 8. I haven't watched other reactors consistently throughout the whole series. Only you two... So i am nervous and excited at the same time 😀 I can't wait to see what you have made of this series finale.
Out of all the GOT reactions you guys are absolutely the best at it. Thank you
❤️🙏🏼
Suzy Lu is good also. You can try it
@@Iori955 I've seen her and her husband. They are very good also. I like this one because they do a deeper dive for each episode.
Spartan “I didn’t enjoy the build up, it came a bit like that” ….get used to that this season
Love the march theme in the beginning , it is the same theme like in the first episode when King Robert arrived in Winterfell! Greetings from Germany❤
Best part of the episode
"Rushed and Underwelming" is most of what I felt when watching season 8 :( Yes there were good payofs, amazing visuals tears of joy and all that. But mostly it was that.
Agreed! The CGI were amazing, but at cost of character arcs and story writing!
@@theredeemer1644 Since season 6 the whole pace changed. Since they reached the end of the book material they started mashing different side plots in one and started to focus more on "subverting expectations" formula than making the writing make sence and feel more "real". The reason why all the character arcs made sense by season 6 is the slow development. Danny's Arc will be same in the books. But it will make more sense why that happened and will feel more organic because it will be well paced. Bran's also. And I'm not the kind of fan that compares the books to the show fanaticly. I LOVED the show. Still do. I just feel like if D&D were not so posessive and gave the show to other showrunners we would still have GoT seasons airing. Instead they decided to smush and wrap up 7 years of buildup, side plots and character development in few hours. So yes it is very rushed and that is why the good momentswe all have been waiting for 7+ years feel underwhelming and unorganic most of season 8. I won't get deep here because of spoilers for them (I know they have mods but still)
@@lexieraven6239 Agree, they rushed it because they wanted to move on to Star Wars. The irony of that is they lost the Star Wars project after how disappointing the last season of Thrones was. Comparing the writing of the show when they had Martin's books to the writintg they produced themselves after they ran out of source material there is a clear decline in quality. It gives the appearance, whether true ot not, that they only produced good writing because they had Martin's books to go off of. It makes them look incompetent as writers. HBO offered them more money and more seasons. They definitely had the resources to give us a better conclusion. If they were ready to move on they should've just handed the show over to someone else as HBO was more than willing to continue it.
@@theredeemer1644 they did the BEST they could? Are you on drugs? The sure did the BEST they could to rush the finale. HBO offered + time, + money and they were already tired of the show. That was selfish. Thats why this show is considered such a let down since S5.
@@theredeemer1644Exactly. GRRM purposely tried to write something that COULDN'T be made into a movie or show. The fact that they managed to make what they did is astounding.
Just a reminder that D and D said the reason for Sansa and Dany’s conflict was that “they’re both good looking women”…
I’ve enjoyed this journey with you guys! Much love from Tampa FL!
Please watch Vikings next! You wouldn’t regret it and a great show to react too
I dont think they will anytime soon, they started breaking bad reactions on patreon.
Spartan is not Jon, if anyone, he is Jon's "sword polisher".
😂
I guess Dany underestimated her value to the people of Westeros. After everything she went through to get to this point, all the Northerners see is a girl with two dragons, an army and a bad name, strolling in and taking control of the North and their “king”. She didn’t expect this. Now the man who she loves and everyone else loves too, is actually the true heir to the throne, more so than herself…. She won’t be expecting that either. 😅
..."a foreign army"...
How she didn't expect this is beyond me lol
@@d3l3tes00n she's spent the last few years of her life brainwashing herself in to thinking she was the one, the hero of the people, the rightful ruler of the seven kingdoms and that they all wanted her as their queen.
@@d3l3tes00n I guess you could say that the slaves needed liberating, and she did that in Essos…. But not many people need liberating from chains in Westeros, and those that do don’t trust the name. When you’ve spent the last few years becoming such a success story, it’s hard (and humbling) to be surrounded by people who don’t care. 🤷🏻♂️
Tyrion did warn her back in season 5! "Nice thought! Braking the wheel, but who will back you???"
Back before D&D turned Tyrion into a bumbling idiot!!!
7:17 "I'll have to delete the 8th season from my mind if that happens." - Spartan
I wonder if this will become what occurs or doesn't occur. It'll be interesting to find out.
9:48 "It's going to be hard re-watching GoT and knowing what happens. Ugh..." - Pudgy
I wonder how hard it'll be for her to re-watch. Maybe you can upload some parts of a re-visit?
That's OK! If Spartan deletes it from his mind! He wouldn't have been the only person who deleted season 8 from their minds🤮🤮🤮
@@TheMe0wsCat They finished the show, and although they haved mixed feelings, they overall enjoyed it. They don't seem to fall where most of them fandom has. At the same time, that could still change with time. I remember Spartan saying in S1 that Sam is the kind of character who is meant to die early. I wonder if he remembers and was surprised to see Sam make it to the end.
@@Mic-Mak Oh, I'm well aware. I can read the description stuff. I'm just keeping in mind those who haven't seen the entire show. I'm trying to stay away from spoilers. It's interesting seeing them already noticing a drop in quality in the writing, though. They came up with better ideas at the end of the episode than the actual writers did. 😆
@@jaybird8192 Yeah... I even like a decent amount of season 7 for a few reasons, but I'm on the list of people who "deleted season 8 from their minds." ☹
17:58 / 24:15 Exactly Spartan! We all thought the same thing! I always imagined Arya being in awe of Dany especially after seeing the dragons and learning her story. I don't have a problem with book or show Arya potentially falling out of love with Dany over time, but the idea she wouldn't admire her, not even a little bit is shocking to me. They don't even fucking interact. Ever. The show messed up big time!
Arya admires Visenya and Nimerya, she absolutely would love the woman who brought back the dragons, at least be interested in her.
@@vbb2076 plot twist she actually kills Danny in episode 8-1 and wears her face the rest of the series.
Jk jk
Dany is the kind of entitled princess Arya hates. Of course they wouldn't get along 😂
@@orton305 How would she know Dany is entitled if they never interacted?
@@BhlackBishop Unfortunately , the awful writing told her
And so we have arrived at season 8
The night is dark and full of terrors
And the writing is dumb and full of errors.
Too bad it was too dark to see them.
SPARTAN MY MAN! This is why I follow you both! The attention to details, at 34:45 you got the difference in the music which barely no one notice. It is the best OST for me in all GoT and it's a bit different from the other one you were mentioning. Amazing spot on! ❤
"Flight of Dragons" is beautiful, I think is a mix of elements from the Targaryen and Stark themes.
Im obsessed with yalls reactions and the discussions! Love hearing other peoples POV and I cant wait until the end of the show :D
Pudgey laughing while Spartan gets pissed is iconic at this point. I love it.
Jamie's hair got darker it represents that he is becoming good
Also Bran said he is waiting for an old friend, he meant Jamie
that hair dont represent anything, stop spouting nonsense
Loved that you gave Ange a shoutout in your intro. Love his covers, and love you both!💙
I just realized the dragon Jon rides is named after his father.
It always bugged me that Dany was so cavalier about Jon riding a dragon. If he fell off, he would be dead, yet she basically dismisses his concerns with jokes, gives him no advice whatsoever, and seems to enjoy Jon's discomfort during a ride that should have, without the benefit of plot armour, easily resulted in him losing his grip and falling to his death when the dragon did a nose dive. Even if you assume Targaryens have some kind of genetic magic that keeps them magnetically stuck to dragons, she had no reason to believe that was true of Jon.
I can't believe with all the other reunions going on you guys got blindsided by the Jaime/Bran one. Bran even telegraphed it Sam asked him hat he as doing and he replied "waiting for an old friend". :D
Only Pudgey and Spartan to make me watch this season again😂
as a great tagariyan said "i dont want it"
@autdelux ah dun won eh.
Watching Season 8 again is bring up so much anger again. I loved Season 7 unlike some people out there but Season 8... SMH
@@rmunie1taking a lot
I'm interested to watch this season again to see if it plays out any better than on first watch. I doubt it will, though. I'm not even sure that the way everything plays out would have changed, I just think they rushed the season and totally botched the finale, which had a lot to do with not having what should be the final book to work with (hell, given GRRM's inexcusable delay in finishing it, that book might never come out).
The opening scene of S8E1 is a throwback to the scene in S1E1 when King Robert arrived in Winterfell, used his music and everything. Ayra's smile at the little boy climbing is her remembering that day she climbed up on the wagon for a better view and Bran saw them all from the roof.
29:59 Euron's ship is called The Silence because his entire crew has had their tongues cut out. Before that line about "fkg the queen" Yara asks why he hasn't killed her yet, he says who else would he talk to.
34:00 The build up happened last season when Drogon recognized Jon's heritage and approached and kneeled before him to touch. He's riding Rhaegal, the dragon named for his father.
What defines a king? "You gave up your crown to save your people."
Im not sure if you noticed but the music that plays during daenerys arrival at winterfell is the same music that plays when robert arrives at winterfell in episode 1.
Also please rewatch house of the dragon after this. Id love to see the amount of stuff you pick up on watching it again
Image waiting 10 years to see these reunions. It was tough.
what a waste of time since all of the reunions after jon and sansa fell so flat
The opening scenes of this episode mirror the scenes in season 1 episode 1 when King Robert and his party enters Winterfell for the first time. The boy climbing to get a better view is just like Bran, and we get the exact same angle of Arya watching the Hound pass through the gates. Even the music is a variation of the Baratheon theme mixed with the Targaryen theme. It is truly a masterpiece of an opening.
It is a bunch of basic, corny and on-the-nose S1 callbacks thrown into a scene, with a terrible cock joke in there for good measure (because that’s what Tyrion’s character is now). It isn’t a “masterpiece” by any stretch of the imagination.
"You're a cold little bitch, aren't ya? Guess that's why you're still alive!"
Coming from Sandor this basically means "I'm so fucking happy to see you!"
Another reason why Jon and Arya's reunion is so much meaningful and special is because in the books Arya is said to be very alike to Lyanna. And it is also mentioned that Jon and Arya look alike.
When Sam asked Bran "What are you doing here?" Bran said "I'm waiting for an old friend" meaning Jamie. So I guess it's easy to assume that he doesn't blame him for pushing him from that tower.
WHY WOULD HE BLAME JAMIE, FOR PUSHIG HIM HE ENJOY FALLING DOWN SO MUCH
I never understood why Sam felt so strongly about Danny burning his father considering the disgusting things he said about him and Gilly when they last spoke. Maybe it was more because of his brother, the brother definitely didn’t deserve to die. He never loved Sam and disowned him. I just never understood Sam going so hard against Daenarys. This is where the writing really starts to take a turn.
i mean, its a bit weird if he isnt emotional about his dad dying despite the hate they had for each other, its still your dad at the end of the day
I LOVE how annoyed Spratan gets when Pudgie breaks the 'rules'
I've been with these two since episode 1 and I never imagined they'd join the season 8 fanclub
Let´s wait for Thr bells.
@@kidgforce1The Bells is a masterpiece
There is a theory that the white walker king... has Targarian blood or valerian blood. That's why he can not burn and able to ride the dragon
Full of callbacks.
1. Song arriving at Winterfell is from 1st episode with King Robert arriving.
2. Boy climbing tree to see arriving army is a callback to Bran climbing the tower for King Robert's arrival.
Season 8, yay! Emilia Clark was famously quoted saying that it was the “best season ever!” 😆
with a cringe face leading up to it and sarcasm tinged in her voice
9:12 Put some respect on Rickon's name. Granted, the show did nothing with him. It's too bad they decided to now follow his book story. I don't thin Rickon will necessarily be into some epic shit in the books, but I think he's definitely be in the middle of fascinating politics. He's already in a remote, intriguing area in the books, which the show refused to explore. Even if Rickon was barely used, the fact that we don't get any of the characters mourning him is BS. How many times have we watched a film or show where the main character mourn or miss a character we never see? So many times. It all comes down to writing and acting.
On the contrary I think that Rickon will be part of some deep shit in the books. He is incredibly powerful for his age,he probably has the best warging skills in the Stark family. He is 4 in AGOT and he immediately learns how to warg into Shaggydog, he spends days in the darkest part of the Crypts of Winterfell,when other characters are scared to only enter them,he also predicts that his family would not come back North from the South. Now he is in Skagos,where there is clearly something going on,with all the stories of unicorns, cannibalism and maybe dragon eggs (Cannibals' ?). He will do something important in the books
@@niccologregorutti9309 maybe nothing important in the main story, but if he lives then I can see him growing to become a legendary figure of his era akin to theon stark or brandon the breaker or even cregan stark.
@@bobbybsburner9729 exactly,I hope he becomes a legend, especially after what they did to him in the show
Theon and the Hound have the best character arcs in the story with Theon being the best of the two in my opinion.
2 Cellos is the best GOT THEME , they filmed the video in Croatia where are from , also Kings Landing was filmed, it's fantastic and fun to see the places they filmed
Pudgey -- "I don't think it will be rushed. I could be wrong."
... mm-hm.
We just didn't watch travel time or have side stories.
This must be the most restrained Spartan has been with Cersei in sometime - he even laughed at one of her lines! What the hell, S8.
Seeing as Lena barely had any lines this season, there may not be much to be angry at.
@@BhlackBishop True. I think she takes a backseat till episode 4 and then ... well, there is certainly cause to ramp up the Cersei hate after that one.
Jon becomes Lord Commander at 16-17 and dies at 17-18. He is probably 20 when he becomes King in the North.
Spartan and pudgey have convinced me to watch game of thrones again.
I know the ending gets a lot of hate, but I still like it a lot.
@@jamesstephenson4544 same here.
@@jamesstephenson4544In my opinion, the series finale lives up to what the series has been doing since the beginning.
@@Gabri3L547 That's a really bad opinion
@@Gabri3L547the last 3 episodes of this season are the worst of the whole series
The dragons showing up at Winterfell really show Dany's character. She's initially unsure of herself and the looks she's getting from the people at Winterfell. Then when the dragons show up, scaring everyone, she's far more confident but she's commanding respect through the dragons, not by herself.
It also shows how her base inclination is to rule through fear, not love. She has to repeatedly be counseled away from committing horrible acts. People will argue that the unsullied love her, and she freed slaves. Yes. But to her that is just. If she deems something just or worthy, she'll fight for it and all who stand in her way be damned. We cheered her on for killing the khals and the slave masters bc they were either arrogant misogynists (khals) or evil men (the masters) but the acts were always horrific and she went about them in ways that her advisors disagreed with. Either morally (don't burn a whole city of innocents down) or politically.
So yeah, her character has always been driven by her lizard brain. Fear and cruelty.
@@Hollygli Sadly most of the fandom see this is as a failure in her character and writing. Too which I agree in some capacity. Dany's change felt too rushed and pushed but I still like the story and idea of her STILL being a Targaryen and daughter of the Mad King as an uncontrollable factor in her. That slight confidence in creating fear, and commiting of extreme acts. I think too many people were so in love with her character that they couldn't comprehend her eventual turn in mental madness and fall but I believe if they went about it a better way it would have been way better.
Which shows she was insecure & not a good ruler. She always led by fear.
We needed 2 more full seasons. We needed one season entirely about the white walkers and another one covering Kings Landing.
@@crunchb3rryThats utterly false lol. George confirmed HBO was willing to give them more season and more money but d&d refused because they wanted to end the show instead of giving it to more capable showrunners.
@@gudhaxer41343 I think for what that show was leading up to, yes two seasons were necessary but in an ideal world where George had at least published the sixth book, more than two seasons.
they waited over a decade for Martin to give them the next book. So many cast & team members obviously love the show but were still relieved and glad this project was OVER vs several more years dragging the obvious main story out.
@@Mike90317 Since you talk about the book. I have almost finished the show rn (at this episode rn) and I see a lot of ppl saying the book is different and very good but also I was surprised to see that the book aren't finished yet. So did you recommend to read the book or should I not read them since the published are inconsistant and could never have a end?
S&P: "You know, there is more coming", "What an army"
Night's King: thank you very much for the army you brought to me.
You’re watching this after the fact. GOT when u watched it live week to week was probably the best television experience I’ve had. I was so enthralled with the show and when it took off it just dominated conversation globally. I don’t see that being replicated.
Absolutely. And exactly this is the reason why HOTD will NEVER be as good as GOT, even with the stupid ending. HOTD was the attempt to replicate GOTs success, but failed miserably despite all the praise. In fact it was shit and boring as hell. No comparison to GOT.
@@PattisKarriereKarten well I disagree with half that. It doesn’t replicate its success but HOTD still a great written show
@@Knightowl1980 no it’s shitty written. During the first episode I constantly had the same „wtf“ feeling as in Danys „going mad“ scene in episode 5 of season 8 of GOT.
@@PattisKarriereKarten why?
Can't wait for the Love/Like/Hate lists after the Finale
pudgey stll has dany in her love list
I think Spartan is secretly in love with Cersei.
I live the consistency in every season’s “Love, Like, Hate lists.”Spartan’s face each season just progressively accepts the 4 characters she chooses 😂
Great words of wisdom from Pudgey on Jon in the recap. "Jon, all his life, since the first episode we met him, never allowed himself to be worth greater, destined for greatness, he was destined for the Wall, that was his ambition, he gave his life to the Night's Watch & he put everything into that." Great assessment. GOT, was never about deserves, it was about what one desired. Some fans got carried away, lost sight of the simple things that you shed light on, made many of them sour.
Great sentiment, can't wait for the show to expand on it in a meaningful way
We will see how this season will go down and feel for you at the end but whatever you think of it, it has been hell of a journey seeing you guys reacting to it.
I'm subbed to their patreon and they already finished the show and they HATED the last 2 episodes lmao
@@julianmoses-wright3392 ohh, well not surprising to be honest, considering or atleast I think the majority started to hate the season after episode 3.
@@TheRealRealMClovin Hmm, thinking about your response. I don't agree with it personally but I think that is one of the fairest statements made about the last season. I could see not liking it after episode 3. But I liked the "Bells" a lot myself. And considering they shortened the seasons so much, the other two episodes could have been more meaningful and just better. I didn't hate them but they were lack luster.
@@julianmoses-wright3392I unsubbed after they praised episode 3 lmfao I’m surprised they spoke negatively at all
@@Gojeto346 after all the comments on their episode 3 reaction they started to agree with what we were saying and said a lot of the negativity made sense
The scene where Dany and Jon kiss is an easter egg pun because DROGON WAS staring disapprovingly because he is meant to symbolize DROGO whom she named him after AHAHAHAHAHAHA also beutifully ties into the theory that all the people she loved that she named her dragons after their spirit somehow ties into the dragons themselves
Yet Drogon will later let Jon past him into the throne room? He knew Jon wasn't a threat at that time. Jon didn't decide what he was going to until he heard Dany double down on her hypocrisy about breaking the wheel but just becoming the wheel.
24:33 Arya say's "Don't" not "Never". If you watch his eyes, Jon notes it too.
Lena Headey played the beautiful Queen in the movie "300" with Gerard Butler, and here she is as Cersei! The depth of her talent is just amazing! Just her facial expressions alone are worth a ton of dialog. And it's so crazy that irl she dated the actor who played Bronn, which didn't end well so it was written in her contract to not be in the same scene together. Too funny that Bronn went off to have a drink with Pod for that scene in the dragon pit.
Everyone felt it was rushed.
They really needed at least 3 more episodes to give all the storylines and payoffs to be fully fleshed out and satisfying.
We had to just be grateful for the resolutions, reunions, any hopes that were fulfilled, and the awesome job that they did with the rest of it.
Still a rollercoaster to come - epic highs dnd lows.
Best TV Show of all time.
Bro, they needed 3 more SEASONS
"Dnd lows"
that's the best way to put it... dumb n dumber brought this show to it's lowest
@@TheManOnTheStreetOMGthey waited over a decade for Martin to put out the next book (which he STILL hasn't done). They had to consolidate or cut a lot of storylines already like Jayne Poole & Sansa or Lady Stoneheart. All of those layers Martin is known for they would never have been able to do justice with just making up their own random convoluted side stories. So they focused on the main story. For me especially rewatching I'd love an abridged version, the early seasons drag at many points.
This episode has a lot of throwbacks to 1x1, Boy climbing up the tree like Bran, king/queen's army arriving at Winterfell and with the same music, Arya wandering around during their arrival, episode ending with Jamie and Bran and the same outro music after the episode ends.
Drogon never doesn’t want to make an entrance lol
My favorite thing Spartan says ….. “YUCK!” And the look of disgust on his face when he says it.
Lmao has me dying every time 💀
You know show meant much to you when even first scene music makes you both cry!
BEST SHOW EVER!!! (with Breaking Bad)
@@theredeemer1644 well that would be "accordingn to your opinion" which is of little importance to me,if u comment to disagree.
Only stated what i think is second best for ME,what is the point of your comment? If u dont suggest another show,or even elaborate why you are in disagreement? .....???
Had the most potential of any show I ever watched, but didn't deliver in the end. The last couple of seasons were not that well written. Good cinematography, music, set pieces and visuals can only take you so far.
40:19 This is such BS. Bran is Jon's brother is every way that counts. I'm not against Sam being the one telling Jon in the books, but Bran is in the best position to do it.
The Onion joke was because Davos was a smuggler, mostly onions, got caught punished and knighted by Stannis. He’s known as the Onion Knight. Nicknames are not that emphasized in the show for a lot of characters. Maybe except little finger.
lol, Davos didn't normally "smuggle onions", that's hilarious. Where's the profit in that? The only time he carried onions, and some other foodstuff, was when he took it to feed Stannis' beleaguered army.
Pudgey taking a long time on her like list was so funny and cute hahah never change girl!!! ❤❤
Jon: 😻😘🥰
Bran: 😐🥱
the traumas driving sansa and arya, the sometimes ruthless need for safety and protection and power, is so different from the traumas driving jon, to a degree i don't think he understands. he went through his own shit up at the wall, but he was never in the kind of lasting danger sansa was from People, from humans. jon was fighting monsters and nightmares with a sword in his hand and years of training behind him. even when he was bound and captured he had more safety, agency, and ability than sansa ever had in kings landing. jon's fight is the walkers and the night king. sansa's fight is the rest of the fucking continent and everyone on it trying to kill them. she knows the game, knows the fight that is coming to them, and knows how their enemies will try to use their decency and nobility against them.
But did she DIE !🤔🤔
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jon was his own downfall in that regard. he knew his brothers were not fond of wildings and he has always isolated himself and failed to truly communicate his reasonings.
the men at the wall saw him as a traitor because of this and who can truly blame them.
I feel for Sansa the most. She had constant, daily torment & fear in kings landing. She discovered that her betrothed is a monster and she suffered his cruelty and threat to her person on a daily basis. She suffered Cersei's torment on a daily basis. She was under constant threat of her life.
She then finally gets whisked away to safety, to family. Only to find her aunt is jealous of her and tries to kill her in a terrifying manner. Then she gets sent home, only to have to live with the very man who betrayed and killed her mother and brother. Then she has to marry his son, who turns out to be more cruel and sadistic than Joffrey. She suffers at his hand, raped and physically hurt on a daily basis.
All the Stark children suffered. But I have the most sympathy for her. Her fate was the worst. And she bore it all with no magical help. No wonder she's incredibly distrustful and all she wants is safety. For herself, her family and the North. She wants them as far away from the Westerosi kingdom as possible. In Winterfell, she can feel safe. So yeah, she's pissed Jon gave up his crown and their independence.
@AG-ee9yt She Lost her dragon And suspended her march to King's landing To help the north They wouldn't stand a chance against the Night King without her
"Por que no las dos?" I still say that when I'm given two good options, love that commercial
The hound has never hugged anyone and he did smirk at her after his line.
41:15 _"Sam is understandably preoccupied with the fact that Dany executed his father and brother. What I don’t get is why Sam treats Dany’s failure to tell Jon as significant. Dany apparently has no idea that Jon and Sam are friends. From the way she greeted Sam in that previous scene, it looks like she only knows of Sam through Jorah. If Dany concealed her actions from Jon out of shame, that’s contradicted by the fact she told Sam the truth. (Nor is it consistent with various other actions she’s taken.) If Dany just didn’t give a thorough account of her actions on the field to Jon, and the Tarlys should have been included as significant casualties, that failing is shared by a whole bunch of people who could have told Jon, and isn’t any sort of personal insult."_
*-TURTLE PACED*
I was confused as to why Dany showed zero emotion while telling Sam. I know she doesn't know him, but still.. she had no reaction whatsoever.
@@d3l3tes00n She had a normal reaction. It was sober and needed to be. Nobody wants a hug from the person who killed their family.
it makes no sense for Sam to be so emotional about it in the first place, his father quite literally was the worst person, we were shown and told so over the course of the show. And didn't seem like any of his family, including his brother or mother, ever really truly stood up for him either. Him mourning the loss of his brother and father so deeply, and further holding it against Dany, is extremely stupid writing.
@@theredeemer1644 lol ok,, I didnt know you were the one who directed me how to say my own thoughts "correctly".
Nah its the writing that informs the character's actions, emotions, and everything else in the story. It was out of character for Sam to act that way, given everything we know about his family. And that's exactly why I blame the writing and not the character. We've never seen Sam show any kind of great love for his father or brother, before this episode decided to make it an issue. It feels like the writers just wanted to throw something into the show to help build contrived tension against Dany.
@@d3l3tes00n according to Emilia Clarke, that's exactly what d&d wanted her to do simce the previous season: show no emotions. however, Emilia said she tried to talk back, since she also read the books back in 2010 and she knows how Dany would've reacted during certain situations