When she said 2-5 long islands I thought....ok well hes fucked up....but then the comment about only a little bit of tequila and vodka left me thinking yea either shes never drank it or minimal research done here Edit...oops I realize it wasn't her research it was police research that said it wasn't enough alcohol to get him that drunk....shame on u police and sorry youtuber 😔
That's what I thought, long islands are strong drinks. 2 of them would make me feel pretty good, and by 5 I would definitely be drunk. I wonder why the police would even say that, when everyone know long islands are strong drinks.
That was my 1st thought too, why wouldn't authorities know that a Long Island has not only vodka, but gin, tequila, rum, and triple sec. 2 would put me under the table, 5 and I would probably be dead from alcohol poisoning!
They never mention in Kaylen's case, that her brother died of suicide years previous. And if she was going to have a psychotic break, it probably wasn't just "bc she couldn't find work."
@@SleepySloth2705 Exactly. There are plenty of people who have situations trigger Schizophrenia in a later time in life. My step mom has had patients come in and suddenly got Schizophrenia at the age of 30 and even 55 once. My great uncle got Schizophrenia symptoms and was placed in a mental institute in his late 20's to around his mid 30's. He was in the war, which triggered it to happen. Definitely feel like her brother dying and her lack of work probably triggered it.
@@Kawaiikooo same. Mine was triggered by witnessing a brutal police murder and my Best friend killing himself. But every single person on my entire moms side has schizo minus my mom who I believe has DID. Messed up stuff. I'm glad your mom was there to help these people. Its truly disturbing to lose your touch with reality and not know it.
I think Kaylen's case is much like the death of Elisa Lam. Everything about it suggests that she was having some kind of severe mental health crisis and she didn't get the help she needed in time. There doesn't need to be any history of it, it has to start at some point and there are many things that could trigger such a thing.
Don't drink anything that's already made or opened. I got mickeyed by my first roommate. But that incident saved me from being a victim again. I was working in club in Cincinnati, all other employees, including bouncers got it. When I came back from break, only one standing was the owner. He was yelling at me, saying I caused it. I was laughing bc I had a gut feeling about two guys, dressed in Armani, buying for all employees, overly friendly and pushy. Cops were amazed at my descriptions of the guys, down to color of socks. They matched his little hanky, hanging out of breast pocket. I could even theorize why it happened. New club, down the road, couldn't get customers the right way.
Real friends don’t leave their friends behind or let anyone leave without all leaving together. So many cases on this and I’ll say it again.. friends don’t leave friends behind.
It depends on how dumb and drunk your friends are. I once went out for New Years Eve with my younger sister and cousin. We were all drunk but I was drunk on a whole other level and I wanted to go home. They wanted to stay because it was still early and they didn't want to let me drive via subway,so these two stupid idiots just waved at a Taxi that was already occupied and put me inside with two random strangers on the backseat. One of them tried to grope me but fortunately I was aware enough to slap his hands away. My sister later called me to make sure I made it home, because she had a clear moment and realized what they did. Teenagers are the definition of "fucking up"
bad people or bad quality friends often say that the other person is an adult and doesn't need a babysitter. you have to be wary of the things people say. those type of uncaring dismissive pretending to be mature type are the ones who would prey on the left behind. a decent person doesn't leave their friend behind.
When my best friend turned 21, my other best friend and I had to have her carried out to the car. She had passed out in the restroom. So we left early, because her well-being was much more important than getting drunk. Never, ever, EVER leave a friend behind!!
I agree however I go out with with my friend, who is not dangerous but my god I have literally carried the plonker out of pubs and I used too worry all the time. Basic stuff like crossing the road, going to watch a band and I am under 9 stone and getting of a train. As a woman he has a good 3 stone on me believe. So now I would rather have a drink at home. Love the guy. We went to Liverpool and I felt like his mum telling a little boy off. I always said be careful in case someone spikes your drink or you fall in a canal. So be safe out there. Lecture over 😂😂❤❤
For real! I’m a 6’2” 200lb man who’s won his fair share of prison yard fights, and yet I chose to cut ties with a couple of “friends” for abandoning me one night when I got black out drunk at a bar. It’s not safe for ANYONE to be out in public alone while extremely intoxicated.
Kaylin L. was exhibiting all the symptoms of acute onset mental illness episode: Hearing voices, paranoia, walking around aimlessly, inappropriate clothing….
If I had a drunk friend that was vomiting and heavily intoxicated, I would be like "You are coming with me and you will rest it all off, whether you like it or not!" And put them to bed in my hotel room with water and some stomach pills. You have to support your buddies cuz #Buddybuddysystem
Exactly! Personally I’ve been in situations where my friends have ditched me when I’ve been extremely intoxicated and had to get home alone. Same thing happened with a girl where I live, her friends left her to get a taxi home, she got home but didn’t go in, ended up wondering around as she was really drunk, she was found 7 weeks later in the river, after being raped and murdered. Just take your friends with you no matter what or where you live.
@@benaldridge6341 they’re not easy to handle no, but I’d rather have to handle them to make sure they’re safe rather then leave them alone and have anything happen to them- that’ll be on my conscience and Idk about you but I couldn’t live with that.
One time I was on a date and there was this Australian girl drunk off her ass stumbling about. Her so called "friends" did nothing to help as I guess they had got into an argument prior. I kept looking over listening in as these two guys swore they would take her home after they kicked it at his house first. They lifted her up and started heading towards the door. I got up any yelled "Um no she's NOT going with you". Long story short she spent the night on my couch then after waking up the next morning she thanked the hell out of me. Still have her as a friend of fb. Be careful folks.
Thanks! For being a "good guy"! You may have saved a life. They always say "if you see something, say something " you took it a step further. You are a true gentleman and good samaritan! We need MORE people like you. May God bless you. 😊🙏
Not blaming anyone but people need to watch out for their friends! If someone is drunk make sure they are not alone! When in doubt call an ambulance at least if they are in an er they arent out in the street
@@jessraelayne766 I know and I dont think its anyone's fault but if they could make a pact we are not leaving alone. It may help less of these tragedies. In my town we had dial a ride for the teens so if they were drunk they got a ride home free it was a town run thing. Didnt have teens die as much. It's just so tragic so sad for the families and friends.
@Native Nfree exactly! And sometimes they need medical care. I was in the er 8 years and icu 10 and I cant tell you how many girls in prom dresses we had to put on life support! So if their friends are drunk enough to be unconscious please call 911. You wont be in trouble for saving the lives!
As a person whose mother became severely mentally ill at 30 I have opinions on Kaylen's case. The mental illness likely wasn't sudden, but people have been blowing off symptoms as stress and personality. Losing a job probably wasn't the catalyst but the straw that broke the camel's back. My mom could have "normal" conversations an texts all the time, and even meet people face to face and seem "normal." I trust the roommate who spent more time around her than family. Sheshould have been given help at least by that 3rd 911 call. Also, if she was having delusions I can easily imagine her drowning trying to save her dog from that river. Or someone else.
I am usually really good at hiding my mental health issues...I do have days where they are very evident, but the majority of the time I'm wearing a mask
I’ve been through a methamphetamine induced psychosis once at college and I also called 911 and my parents believing there was an active shooter in the school. It warps your reality so bad that you do believe whatever paranoid nightmare there is in your head. Whatever the cause is either schizophrenia, random psychosis or something drug induced it surely has the patterns.
Many who start having mental health issues r confused themselves and will go to great lengths to hide it and make sure nobody knows. Sounds to me like a psychotic episode. I’ve seen other vids about this poor girl and there r several very likely causes for her to end up in the water. So sad and horrific. Could happen to anyone.
Kayelynn definitely had a psychotic break. Just because it’s rare for it to happen so “late” in life, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. She didn’t mean to kill herself, but she was hearing voices, her brother had committed suicide before that point, so while it’s normal to want to believe “no she was fine before then, she didn’t have a history, etc etc-“ she was in a crisis and unfortunately wandered too far near water, maybe was trying to “escape” something and fell in. I don’t think this one is mysterious. Sad, but not mysterious.
@@sabrefreeeek not always 5, but at the very least 4. Never only 2. Now...they are 1/2 ounce shots if they are being made correctly (been bartending for 12 years, and that's the standard for a LIT). Not full 1-1 1/2 ounce shots like a standard shot would be. But still...2-3oz of mixed liquor per drink is a HELL OF A LOT of alcohol, especially if you're not a heavy drinker.
"Only had 2 to 6 long island iced teas" long island iced teas are in the top 6 most potent mixed drinks. Idk about anywhere else but most bars I've been to won't serve you more than 2 maybe 3 bc of how strong they are
The whole „murderous gang leaving smilie faces somewhere in the area“ seems to me a fixed idea of two bored ex-detectives. The sad thing is that it muddies the waters for cases that are actually suspicious.
for real. Its astonishing people are putting ANY thought into it. Like people aren't going around and like "ooh look here its a white athletic guy who's suuuuper drunk, LETS GO DROWN HIM". White guys, especially DRUNK white guys are fucking stupid and reckless
The truth is the missing men is extremely eerie to me and makes me feel so uneasy. The killers motive isn’t money or robbery, or ransom… just plain murder.
This seem like a lone sexual predator. Throughout this entire video, I haven't heard them checking for sexual assault on these men. I believe these men are kidnapped, kept alive for a period of time while being sexually assaulted. Then killed and disposed of
The second one actually seems pretty straight forward tbh. I thought it was funny when his mom was like “He’d given a waitress a $200 tip at the club, how could he not have money for cab fare?” I mean, probably because he was making financial decisions like tipping $200 lol
Yeah, they'll knock you on your ass. Most of these seem to be accidental drownings, not anything sinister. Watch out for your drunk,/possibly mentally ill friends.
The drug isn’t called GBH, it’s actually called GHB. I used to be an addict & I took GHB in liquid form almost daily (wasn’t my DOC but my friend always had GHB so we took it all the time along with our DOC) & I never once have heard anyone ever call it GBH.
It’s hard enough to lose someone. I can’t imagine losing one of my children & not knowing exactly what had happened! My heart goes out to the family members & friends of the deceased.
Most these cases involving drunk men disappearing also involve their friends being just as drunk as they are. Alcohol effects decision making & basic common sense implementation. Really the friends probably thought "He'll be well" because he's athletic, have a rep for being responsible & most importantly, is a man. I personally feel that most people don't worry much about a man being drunk walking alone at night as much as they do for women. People need to understand that there's predators that also hunt for men.
Tbf, they weren't sober themselves, and even if not as tanked as Patrick, the booze still affects judgement/decision-making. Also, bc he's a fit, muscular young bloke, they prob thought "He'll be right". Like, not many ppl do worry about a young adult male walking alone at night, at least, not in the same way they worry about young female adults walking at night. Ppl forget that some predators hunt guys, and for the same reasons other predators hunt women, or kids.
@@ellemarr7234 Yeah. I am so irritated by all these people expecting other drunk teens to be their baby sitter. As it either of the people in the group was alert enough to take care of another. Each person should know their limits and are responsible for their own safety.
I’ve worked in bars for a very long time. I was drugged once and a few years later found out the bartender had been doing it to people! I had one drink at 1:30 AM (we were allowed since the bar was closing at 2). After about twenty minutes I was told that I was standing at the front of the bar talking to a customer and then my eyes rolled back and I passed out. I don’t remember any of it. It’s very scary!
It's possible those bartenders are in it. They know who drank the laced drink and the men with strong instinct knew something doesn't feel right and decided to go home. And that bartender then contacts the "men" to say the drugged person is leaving, who then they'll follow
@@BOREDANDWELLBORED that’s what I was wondering! And you would never even suspect it. The bartender I worked with did it for years and nobody caught on and we had cameras EVERYWHERE. We always thought it was another customer doing it. I even heard him laugh once about putting visine in a girls drink to be a prick . He was a total scumbag !
@@PrayThenBreathe1528 thanks! I always worry about people who have nobody around. I mean it truly hits you out of nowhere and you don’t remember a thing till the next day. I could’ve been robbed, raped, killed and wouldn’t have had a clue. It’s sad that people have to worry about stuff like this.
They did this on a recent SVU that might have been inspired by a true story. It worked but of course its TV and cop-paganda, but I'd love to see an attempt at this irl
For the Kayelyn case, Schizophrenia can happen at any time in someone's life. It can just randomly happen when they are 30 or even 40 and sad events can trigger it. I have a feeling she just started to have schizophrenia symptoms, but mistaken them to be real. It's sad, but it does happen. Step mom is a therapist and has had 30 + year olds come into her office and began just having schizophrenia out of nowhere. My Grandmother's brother also started having symptoms of Schizophrenia and was in a mental hospital at a very late time in his life, I believe either late 20's to mid 30's. I can also say that mental health issues does not mean you cannot make you unable to speak with people normally. I have mental illness and I know others as well and we can keep a normal conversation. I have a feeling she was having an episode and walked to the creek and fell in and couldn't get out due to the episode. I do think the roommate should've contacted her family to tell them the episodes she have been having like calling the police on things that were not happening and kept a little guard on her, seeing she is obviously not in a right mind. Then again, it's not their responsibility, but morally, I do think they should've watched her. I literally watched that video and instantly knew she was having some sort of episode involving mental health at that time. So, I have to disagree on the fact that it was more, especially when the police went to a wedding of all places and were told nothing was wrong and they heard no gunshots.
I’ve been through a methamphetamine induced psychosis once at college and I also called 911 and my parents believing there was an active shooter in the school. It warps your reality so bad that you do believe whatever paranoid nightmare there is in your head. Whatever the cause is either schizophrenia, random psychosis or something drug induced it surely has the patterns.
As a former waitress in a bar that catered to a university/college crowd I can assure you that if anyone drank more than one or two Long Island Iced Teas I would have taken their keys away. Their perception of the amount of alcohol in each LIIT is grossly understated, five shots of alcohol. The Police need a refresher course, at least the ones handling this case sure do. Poor guy, sounds pretty fishy (no pun intended) to me. RIP
For the Kayline case I will said about my own experience with mental health issues. Not all folks with mental health issues have been diagnosed with it, a lot people like myself avoids medical help due to be affrai of the "stigma" that a label can do, specially people that work. I was able to hide my depression from family, friends, neighbor, coworkers etc. The day I tried suicide everybody couldn't believe why I tried to kill myself because I didnt look or sound depressed. Maybe the girl had a not diagnosed mental health or family is in denial, sometimes is more "easy" acept foul play than mental health issues. I hope whatever was her cause of death she can find peace and her family can find strength to keep their lives moving on.
@@andrewcochrane5751 Yeah she could have a mental issue. Im not a health care professional but in the tapes and videos that midia showed to the public she sounds mentally confuse. It could be a case pf denial where she did behave before and family brushes off as "odd" or "different" but never cared to indentified if was some mental problem underlining. Is sad, she was a very young woman and perhaps with medical care could possibly prevented her to behave erradicaly.
You are so honest and open. You're bravery and ability to bare yourself shows how incredibly brave and strong you are. Im willing to bet you have saved a few lives or more. Thank you.
@@MrMarco855 I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but how can you say with certainty she never displayed any mental health issues? Was she drugged? She clearly displayed erratic behavior. Her father said she was depressed, her roommate said she was acting delusional, the unexplained calls to 911, which were clearly signs of something wrong considering what she was reporting was not actually happening. And then there is the video of her in the parking lot standing in the rain barefoot with no umbrella displaying erratic behavior, seemingly talking to someone who wasn't there. I'm not saying she couldn't have been murdered. It's totally plausible, but to say she had no mental health issues, I think we can say there was something going on with her mental health. And one more thing, during her call to 911 where she reported people in her house, her roommate was heard on the line saying no one is here and the door is locked. Is her roommate a suspect? Like I said, not to be a jerk, and maybe this story is being told the wrong way, but I think it's pretty clear something wasn't right with her mentally. At least at the time of her disappearance.
Kayelyns death absolutely sounds like an accident with no foul play. My main assumption for kayelyn louder is she was using psychedelic drugs, and perhaps her parents are denying this in the toxicology report due to being in deep denial this could be the reason for her death and wanting a deeper explanation or somewhere else to point direction, like foul play rather than an accident due to someone not being in a stable/ coherent state of mind . Sad to say but unfortunately I don’t believe anyone else was involved in this
On one hand, I can see the theory of the smiley face killers... on the other, drownings can easily happen. We had a 17-year-old drown in a frequented lake in my hometown. He wasn't even intoxicated. He was healthy. It happens
A Long Island is a strong drink. Almost all alcohol but the indoor larvae is very suspicious. Young people listen up - you don’t ever leave your friends in a bad position. Period. Do the right thing no matter how much you don’t want to!
Getting drunk at all is a big no for me. I dont see how getting drunk or high is fun.. Rather do soo many other things than that. Been drunk before and I hated it Been high 2x and made me paranoid to the point one of the times I thought my boyfriend laced it and was going to murder me. The other time I thought I was in a coma fighting to either wake up or stay asleep. No thanks. I like control over myself and my thoughts and not go mentally insane.
That’s what I thought too lol. My brother got wasted off of them back at his 21st birthday lmao. He was a lightweight back then but it strong enough where my grandma was repulsed by it 😂😂
Why people don't take delusional people to a hospital!????? I would never understand it! if my friend or family were saying they heard someone talking in the apartment, called 911 in several occasions, without even remembering their address... what else do you need to see there's a mental problem there!!?? Also, the amout of cases when someone disappears and their friends or family are like "oh well.. I would search tomorrow, time to sleep" makes my blood boil...
The Patrick McNeil disappearance happened around the corner from my apartment when I was 8. I’ve never forgotten it and for some reason, I just mentioned it to my husband earlier this week. I can’t believe it’s being covered here. His parents and friends handed out fliers in my neighborhood for days after he went missing. It has always stayed with me.
Sad s things about these these case , as all's case s is police .are possibly at aloss before they evers get started ECT. Is they must have evidence s . So unless they come ups with reals games changers . Cases as the missings wills go unsolved s . As Dna slows toos slows like police department s are
I drove a cab for two years. Even on my worst night I literally wouldn't have even opened the door if two kids ran on a 40 dollar fare. Just turn the meter off and get another fare. Plus the driver knew which club they were going too. so he could have just told the manager they stiffed him, the club manager is going to side with the person who literally brings him customers.
The problem with these types of comments that irks me is it always assumes everyone is exactly the same as you. Same context, same ideology, same experiences, same impulses. You can’t just say “well I wouldn’t do X so it’s suspicious that someone else did X” is ludicrous.
I went to highschool with Kayelyn, the police did not investigate and there is absolutely NO way she drowned on her own and floated to were she was, many areas the water was below the knee or dry in some spots, there are grates over many areas of the river between her home and where she was found. Literally not possible. Also, She was talking to her dog, loads of people talk to their pets.
I feel like her disappearance is supernatural. That 911 phone call with her roommate and you can hear a voice (demon?) In the background but her room mate can't hear it and thinks she's going crazy
@@BOREDANDWELLBORED she was beautiful, intelligent and funny. She was someone who was not disliked by anyone. She spoke with family and her close friends daily and her family is very tight. She had a degree in social work and would likely know she was not feeling herself and would have acknowledged as much or she would likely have discussed it with her mom or fam who she spoke to the day she disappeared. The investigation from the start was passed off as mental illness and an accident because she talked to her dog. She left in the pouring rain barefoot, in shorts and tshirt without her phone, shoes or keys, And was running through the parking lot on video. BUT Because she was seen on video talking to ger dog, had the suspicious 911 calls, and a room mate who def made her look crazy and seemed almost unaffected about her missing room mate to investigators, so early on people had ideas of her being involved but not anything to go on. She came off as standoff ish. There were many searches all along the creek that converges into the jordan river, in the spring its high water but very shallow or dry in areas in the fall. She could not have fallen in near her house died in a cpl feet of water and floated without being seen by hundreds of searchers who searched the creek to the river repeatedly. The autopsy was a joke, and they were lazy. They did very little to try and find her and what happened to her! There have been a number of women that age locally who have gone missing over the years . The family has suffered through so much. Because she talked to her little dog when take it out to use the bathroom, police and randoms basically made her look crazy and her family may never know what happened. A tragedy for this beautiful human!
@Beautiful Disaster she acted like she was nuts, and came across uncaring and standoff ish and that put a real sour taste in peoples mouth, for a long time the roomate was a suspect to the public . but she is unlikely the person responsible.
@@jenfrisk996 the most idiotic thing the media does is call people off as "crazy". They take things out of context. Her 911 call regarding the wedding was legit, they admitted that they had fireworks and could have been mistaken as gun shots. People know when somebody is trying to kill them, that's called instinct. She knew it ahead of time. I suspect it's somebody very close to her as most murders do. Since she's now dead, it would be nice to know anything about her love life. I had similar experience in the past, and yes it was over a man jealous that I talked to his girl. Somebody she once dated or even a family member isn't far fetched, there's a thin line between love and hate and not everybody is strong enough to control their emotions, unfortunately. The weak are the most dangerous.
Hi, art therapist here! Regarding Kayelyn, there are more psychotic disorders than just schizophrenia. I believe she could have been suffering from a Brief Psychotic Disorder. For this disorder she only would need to show at least one psychotic symptom (In her case, delusions and possibly hallucinations) and this episode can last anywhere from 1 day to a month. Onset of brief psychotic disorder is due to major stress such as loss of a loved one or in her case, job loss. So just because she did not show any symptoms prior to her disappearance doesn't dismiss this disorder because of its sudden onset.
I read another comment saying that some years previously, her brother died of suicide and that was why she went into that line of work. When she was unable to obtain work she could have felt she failed her brother. She may have been throwing herself into school and work, trying to help others and she may have never truly dealt with the loss of her brother, thinking if she could save others it would help her heal. This is all speculation of course but definitely could have been a psychotic episode, seems more likely to me than schizophrenia or it was foul play involved, which I think is very likely.
So what’s the mortality rate of this disorder? How many people disappear from a populated area unseen by any video… and they drop dead with no way to determine how they ended up dead without cause and no one can explain he they we’re where they were when they are found. It really does not matter what mental illness she did or didn’t have it still doesn’t explain her disappearance, how she died, and how she ended up where she did? These mental illnesses don’t cause sudden death, it’s irrelevant entirely,
Therapist here. Sadly, Kaylelyn's case is extremely typical behavior for someone with rapid onset psychosis. Either schizophrenia, Bipolar Disorder 1, or Schizoaffective disorder could have caused her delusional thinking & auditory hallucinations. The real "mystery" of this case is why the police didn't immediately act to get her help. In my current role, my job is to treat people in the exact circumstances as Kayleyn's--police, family, & friends call to request an immediate in-person assessment for individuals experiencing severe mental health crises & I go out to there homes for an assessment. Its so heartbreaking & enraging such a service was not offered to her, or if not available in her area, she hit all the criteria to be places on a transportation hold by the police to the hospital. If this had happened where I live, the police who allowed her to stay in her home while clearly in the midst of a severe mental crisis could be held liable. They should have been held liable in this case as well, so this never happens again. Such a heartbreaking and preventable loss of young life.
Kaylen most likely fell victim to the seemingly harmless but deadly creeks in a Utah rainstorm. The mountain cities make the water flow quickly downhill. In a rainstorm, a creek you could have waded across the day before will quickly transform into a deadly current that will carry you away. We can speculate all kinds of other ways she got into the river, but “all things being equal, the simplest explanation is the best one.”
No cap. That’s when they randomly popped up and starting playing on my phone while I was cleaning at work.. Nd now I’m hooked, everyday at work I have my AirPods in playing these
Smiley case killer theory is bullshit. Research it. Can be easily debunked. Not to say some of those cases weren’t murders, just that there isn’t a group of killers traveling the country killing young, drunk while men and leaving no evidence behind all the while drawing smiley faces nearby as a calling card. Please.
There are many serial killers that used a smiley face with or around their victim's. Robert Yates got that label because the grocery bags he used to suffocate his victims came from a store that had a smiley face on it. If there are people out there killing like this they choose their victims because they cant fight back as hard or they inadvertently were killed by accident while being robbed. Either way the smiley face with the serial killers weren't an intentional thing. One serial killer who used a smiley face with his letter to the police he stated was just a slight he did to mock the police it had zero significance to him at all as with others that had used a smiley face in some fashion. For the sake of it let's say that to be true he/shes a bartender and slipped drugs in their drinks. Is it a good idea? Maybe but if they were a bartender and working how would they get away from the bar on a busy night to go murder someone without someone noticing they arent tending the bar then slip back without detection?
@@sullifishing4035 if you have ever worked at a bar or restuarant for that matter then you will know that its closing time for the patrons and stragglers are still take some time to push them out. There's a breakdown and clean up that is needed to be done. It's not oh it's closing time and immediately leave.
All his "friends" just left him alone and unprotected when the saw the condition he was in, sick and totally vulnerable to whatever freak came along. Young people today need to choose your friends very carefully, very carefully. My son was in that position once when he was 18. But thank God he had two very good friends who brought him home to us and stayed while EMT's and cops came and answered the police and EMT questions even though they could have been arrested cause they were all under age. He was close to alcohol toxic and could have died if they had just left him there. I thanked them and hugged them for doing that. The cops were very good about it too. No arrested and drive the boys home, told the m to come back pick up their car the next day after they were totally sober. My son and me and my husband had a very bad night with him being so sick and out of it. If not for his friends things could have gone very badly for my son.
Friend code dictates that someone in the friend group has to babysit the most trashed friend in the group. The babysitting job usually goes to the DD friend, the wall-flower friend, the struggling-with-sobriety friend, or the most rational/mature friend of the group. And the rest of the group rage on, but someone in the group knows who left with who and how they left, and when friends ask about other members of the group, friends pass the word on. That's just the basics of caring about friends, especially when having a good time together. When it comes to the friend that never drinks having a few too many and has clearly overdone it, it is completely irresponsible of the friend group to not watch out for that person. And in the case of the college kid that was drinking underage, it's not reasonable to assume he was being completely responsible for himself or using the best judgement when drinking with friends at the bar. Teens and young adults have limited experience with anything for navigating the adult world, and therefore could be very short on common sense. So, it's safe to assume that the kid hadn't figured out his own tolerance or limits yet, and his friends were probably entertained watching him get white-gurl wasted, and they probably weren't experienced enough in those situations to not leave every man for himself. It's not a house party, it's a bar in a city; Look out for eachother if you give a shit what happens to one another. Either that or there's an underground North American ring of InCels plotting murderously sinister schemes, stalking groups of good looking and fit guys out partying together, and executing wasted "Chads" that get momentarily separated from their group. This is a truly disturbed societal exigency we've arrived at.
It's probably a fraternity ritual killing if the disappearances are in the hundreds. Being a ritual would also explain the demographic of men being targeted.
@@c.c.7254 Except it's the frat guys getting murked. InCels; the real scourge of humanity. Dudes that can't get over other dudes catchin more ass than they could even dream up. Sad losers.
The two who disappeared at the quarry, if they had seen the sign, they would've understood it was dangerous just from the picture on the danger sign if they didn't know French. You're taught about danger signs at a young age, so they would've understood just from the picture on the sign if they didn't understand French.
One time I was drinking Jameson w friends and when I got up to go home it hit me really hard. My friend got me an uber and when we arrived to my house I was passed out and my uber was a girl so she took my phone and called the last person in my call log which was my friend that lived nearby and the uber girl was so nice she took me to her house and made sure I was okay. I wish I could thank her, she was my angel that night. I would do the same for anyone bcus you never know what could happen. Thank you God 🙏
That “Whaaaat is up EEEWUUUU crrreeeww?” always makes me happy, settled in for some pro story telling. I absolutely enjoy and appreciate your work/channel 👊🏼😉
The first two cases you talked about with the college boys who disappeared and then reappeared in a river months later is crazy because of the Brendan Santo case that’s happening rn. He was missing for months and they just found his body in a river…
@ or around 20:00 They never heard from the cab driver again? And they just said f*ck it?? ..... Really? Why wouldn't they have called every local cab company, to find out who was scheduled that night to work, and interview all of them?? Or ask their employers if there is any strange behavior with their employees, around the time of this murder? Or if there was anyone who called into work the next day, after the crime?? They literally did NOTHING they were supposed to do! Interviewing people, is step #1 in the 'Cops for Dummies' handbook! Are you kidding me right now??
Cops from Montreal. Don't want paperwork. It's only a few hours. Come back later. No trace of violence, But have severe injuries. Cops didn't want to work the MP 'cause they're male strippers. Saw on camera, but never mentioned taxi # or license plate. They have them in Canada. Nope. Not suspicious at all. Welcome to Quebec.
Montreal pd is kinda notorious for simply not following up with things that seem like they'd be common procedure. They don't seem like they want to do their jobs, half the time.
There are good cops, and there are bad cops. And then there are incompetent cops. Unfortunately being incompetent in some occupations is more dangerous than in others.
Geez this sounds eerily similar to the “drowning” death of the young, Bronx, Librarian Javier Horta. He wasn’t white or as Young as these young men but his death is still strange and some details on here are similar to his 🤔
@@lesliesmith6683 millennials are not young teens. The oldest millennial is hugging 40 and the youngest are kissing 30. You all need to learn the proper times for these labels. Generation Z are new drinkers. Most millennials are past new drinker phase
I went to NYC in 2011 on my own(from England). I was 24 and I stayed in a hostel. The first night I was there, a group of middle aged men that I'd just met started chatting to me and I ended up walking a few blocks with them to a shisha bar. I left after an hour and walked back alone. Im now 33 and I can't believe I was so niave
indeed my deaqr, the things i did in the 80s.. my angels worked overtime i am sure!! although i had bad lessons to learn along the way, yes, you were very lucky :)
Dani Kat: I agree I also think the world was very different place then... my friend and I went back packing for three months when we were in our late 20s from Thailand to Egypt to Europe, many time we were drunk and even slept (or not) on the streets or outside of bus/train-stations even across from hotels etc (travelling was VERY VERY expensive then) now 20yrs later I would NEVER allow my 20yr old nephew (or anyone I know for that matter ) to do that now.... not in this day & age!!!!
Long island iced tea is suppose to be mostly alcohol. And, two is plenty for a "normal drinker". 4-6 would be a blackout style night for just about anyone.
I wonder what they meant by "indoor fly"? I've never heard anyone use that term and there are no flies that will colonize a body that are exclusive to inside buildings.
The young lady who made the 911 calls.....you would think the officer would have taken her to crisis.sometimes people just need some help.. That's sad. The officer should have done more what a shame ..
My mother was diagnosed at age 47 of schizophrenia after acting crazy for a a couple years and eventually getting pulled over and beaten by police! It’s crazy! She had never been in any trouble prior and they hurt her and broke her hip because she was talking to people who were not there when she was pulled over! I wish that police had better training!
My heart goes out to the parents of these young people .How awful not knowing what happened and being left with so many questions ,especially when there is very strange circumstances like the young boys went through ,there was a pattern but no real explanation ..I hope some answers come in years to come so they get some kind of peace
No it’s just they are very strong and it seems the cops didn’t know and the narrator said it wasn’t strong. If he drank that much he’d be wasted. And another thing is isn’t blood alcohol level decreasing as time goes by. Just a question
"Small amount of vodka and tequila". I had one, or one and a half and I felt like I was dying a few hours later. I thought I had alcohol poisoning or something. Never again!
She very well may have had mental health issues and her family was in denial. The fact that she made no sense on the 911 calls and her flat mate noticed her odd behaviour means there was definitely something up. So saying 30 seems old for an initial onset well it may not have been schizophrenia and I have a family member who had a psychotic break in his 40s from stress and was later diagnosed with bipolar disorder. He had never had a psychotic break before. It took a few years for him to recover fully and go back to normal even though he is still bipolar we just didn’t notice the symptoms. It’s odd when someone is functional they can hide a mental illness quite well until they have a large trigger.
Why would witnesses let a strange man follow a young drunk man and not say or do anything? Why don't friends ever keep their drunk friends around them and watch them. Never ever let your drunk friends walk home alone so many people go missing.
Everyone knows that The Long Island Iced Tea is infamous for being a deceptively strong drink and several of them is more than enough to land anyone is just that situation.
In Kaylen's case I'd have to point out it could have been a stress triggerd migraine. I have chronic migraines that are often very debilitating and cause episodes of paranoia and confusion to the point I forget my name. And the cool rain probably felt nice on her head and skin. If it was flooding from the rain, she could have fallen in the creek from a loss of balance and/or partial loss of eyesight. This sounds like something that could very well have happened to me if I did not understand I was having a migraine.
Sorry to hear you've had issues with arrogant and/or ignorant people while transitioning into the new format. I read that you aren't narrating your videos. But, I was convinced this is Emma. Either way, wonderful job. I enjoyed your content before, and I enjoy it now. Thank you for sharing, and wish you all the best!
I live in the same condominiums as Kaylynn did. I remember that night and with the rain we had the creek was VERY high. When I heard about her disappearance I remember thinking that she must have fallen in the creek and drowned. And then they found her drowned.
I have been the victim of a dangerous stalker. I remember people talking about me like I was just weird. I remember being terrified he was gonna just take me and kill me....they finally arrested him and he had duct tape, rope and a knife in this trunk. Along with a notebook filled with my first name. Kaylen looked like she was running from someone.
If she was being chased the camera would've caught someone chasing her. She was being delusional and thought she would've been safe in the water probobly and drowned
Case #2 Brian, it's Gary, IN not IL and it's pronounced DeK(c)alb, IL. The correct city & states are important when hoping to get/give proper info. Love the channel.
The death of Patrick McNeil freaks me out. If Kevin Gannon is correct - that means he was held captive for days being tortured and who knows what else. I don't necessarily buy into the SFK theory.... but there is definitely something going on with all these guys ending up in rivers under suspicious circumstances.
Ngl I don't see any reason to think the two strippers were murdered. The cabby chased them to get his money back, but they were out of reach so he gave up. They were drunk and full of adrenaline, running around in the dark and unfortunately fell to their deaths. Throwing out baseless accusations like a mysterious man in the cab (who would have had to convince the cabby to chase them, hopped the fence after them and then killed the 2 men who everyone says were plenty strong enough to fight back all by himself) or it being some conspiracy in the industry just seems silly. I know death is hard to accept but sometimes an accident is just an accident.
Wow its really important for buddies to stick together when drinking. Good grief, 3 people unrelated saw him in bad shape and did nothing! I would never watch someone in that shape outside and not do something! NO matter if I knew the person or not. You have a responsibility if you drink with others to take care of each other. So everyone fails him and he dies....
My son has a friend whose uncle disappeared after being in a bar for a few mins. He decided to walk & disappeared. He was found in the lake near the bar. This was Alexandria, MN & what shocked me was I was sure I'd heard of this same scenario in Alexandria, MN a few years b4! Someone else just walked into the lake & drowned! Come on now! A year later the friend knew nothing about the case. She didn't know if it was closed or still open & she was close to her uncle growing up. They were only a few yrs apart. Even tho she was an adult when this happened, her family wouldn't tell her what was going on. & how can this happen twice & be cowincedental? I want to know what happened to this young man. Were both drunk so fell into the lake? If so that bar or the city better get fence around that dangerous lake, or rock landscape so it's not such a dangerous area for inebriated individuals. 🙀😿😾😷
This channel is so full of it. Full of research and details. Me love this channel. I have watch almost every video. Me thanks you for making me days better. 😋
I think it's likely that Kayelyn suffered a psychosis though. An episode doesn't have to be preceded by recorded or observed mental illness or disorder, but can result from stressful situations, drug and/or alcohol use, etc. Besides, there is a starting point to the onset of any psychotic disorder suggested anyway, and maybe that was it?
I've done extensive reading on The Smiley Face Killers and I've learned that there have been hundreds of cases in the Eastern United States and even some possible cases in the UK. I'm inclined to believe that a few of these cases are connected to the SFK. Great stories... keep 'em coming! 👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
I had no idea about the SFK before this…it’s absolutely frightening and chilling! I definitely believe these deaths were homicides and not accidental. Even if you’re close to the point of being blackout drunk, most people would never have the sense to jump off a bridge or cross 8 lanes of traffic or wander so far away from their hotel. There is definitely foul play involved. If these guys were on drugs then maybe jumping off a bridge or falling into water would be plausible…but none of these guys were on drugs or else their toxicology reports would’ve indicated it. And so many bodies ending up in the river is too much of a coincidence… I always thought drunk girls as opposed to drunk guys were more vulnerable to kidnapping and assault but these stories prove otherwise. It proves guys are just as targeted and vulnerable to being taken advantage of if they’re drunk. I need to read up on SFK this is crazy. Is this still going on? The scariest thing is this could be anyone. It could happen to anybody!
Face killers and lve learned that there have been hunders of cases in eastern u s even some possible cases in the UK.im inclined to believe that a few and these are concerneted to the sfk. Great stories... Keep em coming!
Hundreds? From an interview I found in 2017, the two investigators attributed the Smiley Face Killers as being responsible for 45 deaths. Beyond that, it's incredibly unlikely that a serial killer (or multiple killers) are working together across multiple countries and using a smiley face as their signature. Among the many issues with the SFK theory, one is the wide variety of different styles of the "smiley faces". Some are just two dots and a curved line for the smile. Others have a circle drawn around them for the head. At least one has what looks like a tongue sticking out and devil horns. There are also problems with the locations of the supposed "signature" smiley faces. In some cases, it seems like the two investigators found the smiley face near the location where it was believed the victim had entered the water. In other cases, they found a smiley face at the location where the victim's body was found.
Hello there! I live in Laval city. Regarding the two dancers I've checked a couple articles regarding the situation and just wanted to applause your informations. They are all very accurate. If I might add since they ran in the middle of the night this place is very dark and I wouldn't be surprise if they didn't see how deep it was or where they were. One of the article I found said there was a footage release to the public where you can see the taxi driver going after them in its car. I think anyone being chase down by a car would run for their lives. The coroner who examined their bodies confirmed the fall killed them. No trace of violence were found.
*FYI: It's very difficult to determine alcohol levels in floating bodies. The interactions between temperature, time, and water characteristics (Ph and pollutants or example), make all measurements very imprecise, at best.*
When she said 2-5 long islands I thought....ok well hes fucked up....but then the comment about only a little bit of tequila and vodka left me thinking yea either shes never drank it or minimal research done here
Edit...oops I realize it wasn't her research it was police research that said it wasn't enough alcohol to get him that drunk....shame on u police and sorry youtuber 😔
That's what I thought, long islands are strong drinks. 2 of them would make me feel pretty good, and by 5 I would definitely be drunk. I wonder why the police would even say that, when everyone know long islands are strong drinks.
That was my 1st thought too, why wouldn't authorities know that a Long Island has not only vodka, but gin, tequila, rum, and triple sec. 2 would put me under the table, 5 and I would probably be dead from alcohol poisoning!
Well that and the GBH (did she mean GHB?)
Errr 2 long islands 🤪
Yea, if I drank 2-5 long islands, I would be on my way to the hospital... they have 5 shots of alcohol.
They never mention in Kaylen's case, that her brother died of suicide years previous. And if she was going to have a psychotic break, it probably wasn't just "bc she couldn't find work."
Personally I think she was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia, but that had manifested much later than usual (hence why no prior diagnosis)
Also she started that line of work because of her brother's suicide.
@@SleepySloth2705 Exactly. There are plenty of people who have situations trigger Schizophrenia in a later time in life. My step mom has had patients come in and suddenly got Schizophrenia at the age of 30 and even 55 once. My great uncle got Schizophrenia symptoms and was placed in a mental institute in his late 20's to around his mid 30's. He was in the war, which triggered it to happen. Definitely feel like her brother dying and her lack of work probably triggered it.
@@Kawaiikooo same. Mine was triggered by witnessing a brutal police murder and my Best friend killing himself. But every single person on my entire moms side has schizo minus my mom who I believe has DID. Messed up stuff. I'm glad your mom was there to help these people. Its truly disturbing to lose your touch with reality and not know it.
I think Kaylen's case is much like the death of Elisa Lam. Everything about it suggests that she was having some kind of severe mental health crisis and she didn't get the help she needed in time. There doesn't need to be any history of it, it has to start at some point and there are many things that could trigger such a thing.
Moral of the story: stick together, don't overdo it with alcohol, and be aware of your surroundings.
@Cat Egorical Lol, so true. And definitely safer.
Don't drink anything that's already made or opened. I got mickeyed by my first roommate. But that incident saved me from being a victim again. I was working in club in Cincinnati, all other employees, including bouncers got it. When I came back from break, only one standing was the owner. He was yelling at me, saying I caused it. I was laughing bc I had a gut feeling about two guys, dressed in Armani, buying for all employees, overly friendly and pushy. Cops were amazed at my descriptions of the guys, down to color of socks. They matched his little hanky, hanging out of breast pocket. I could even theorize why it happened. New club, down the road, couldn't get customers the right way.
Absolutely!
Yes!
I mean even if you stick together you might still get killed like the two that were in the quarry
Real friends don’t leave their friends behind or let anyone leave without all leaving together. So many cases on this and I’ll say it again.. friends don’t leave friends behind.
I agree, I noticed a common element in these missing cases is the friends abandoning the victims.
It depends on how dumb and drunk your friends are. I once went out for New Years Eve with my younger sister and cousin. We were all drunk but I was drunk on a whole other level and I wanted to go home. They wanted to stay because it was still early and they didn't want to let me drive via subway,so these two stupid idiots just waved at a Taxi that was already occupied and put me inside with two random strangers on the backseat. One of them tried to grope me but fortunately I was aware enough to slap his hands away. My sister later called me to make sure I made it home, because she had a clear moment and realized what they did. Teenagers are the definition of "fucking up"
Right? Seriously, if it werent for my friends or my sister...i probably would not be here.
@@dr.jackkevorkian1119 female “friends”
bad people or bad quality friends often say that the other person is an adult and doesn't need a babysitter. you have to be wary of the things people say. those type of uncaring dismissive pretending to be mature type are the ones who would prey on the left behind. a decent person doesn't leave their friend behind.
When my best friend turned 21, my other best friend and I had to have her carried out to the car. She had passed out in the restroom. So we left early, because her well-being was much more important than getting drunk. Never, ever, EVER leave a friend behind!!
Hi Betty how are you doing?
I agree however I go out with with my friend, who is not dangerous but my god I have literally carried the plonker out of pubs and I used too worry all the time. Basic stuff like crossing the road, going to watch a band and I am under 9 stone and getting of a train. As a woman he has a good 3 stone on me believe. So now I would rather have a drink at home. Love the guy. We went to Liverpool and I felt like his mum telling a little boy off. I always said be careful in case someone spikes your drink or you fall in a canal. So be safe out there. Lecture over 😂😂❤❤
Garunteed you left your drunk friend....you feel guilty explains the huge explanation comment lol....nope you're just a shit friend lmfao!
For real! I’m a 6’2” 200lb man who’s won his fair share of prison yard fights, and yet I chose to cut ties with a couple of “friends” for abandoning me one night when I got black out drunk at a bar. It’s not safe for ANYONE to be out in public alone while extremely intoxicated.
Kaylin L. was exhibiting all the symptoms of acute onset mental illness episode: Hearing voices, paranoia, walking around aimlessly, inappropriate clothing….
If I had a drunk friend that was vomiting and heavily intoxicated, I would be like "You are coming with me and you will rest it all off, whether you like it or not!" And put them to bed in my hotel room with water and some stomach pills. You have to support your buddies cuz #Buddybuddysystem
Exactly! Personally I’ve been in situations where my friends have ditched me when I’ve been extremely intoxicated and had to get home alone. Same thing happened with a girl where I live, her friends left her to get a taxi home, she got home but didn’t go in, ended up wondering around as she was really drunk, she was found 7 weeks later in the river, after being raped and murdered.
Just take your friends with you no matter what or where you live.
Yeah. Drunk people are easy to handle.
Totally agree, would never leave a friend anywhere like that...or even sober to be fair ❤️
@@benaldridge6341 they’re not easy to handle no, but I’d rather have to handle them to make sure they’re safe rather then leave them alone and have anything happen to them- that’ll be on my conscience and Idk about you but I couldn’t live with that.
If you don't take care of them. They won't take care of you.
One time I was on a date and there was this Australian girl drunk off her ass stumbling about. Her so called "friends" did nothing to help as I guess they had got into an argument prior. I kept looking over listening in as these two guys swore they would take her home after they kicked it at his house first. They lifted her up and started heading towards the door. I got up any yelled "Um no she's NOT going with you". Long story short she spent the night on my couch then after waking up the next morning she thanked the hell out of me. Still have her as a friend of fb. Be careful folks.
You were her angel that night. 💯
U saved her life
Thank God for people like you ! I pray He bless you greatly ❤️🙏
Thanks! For being a "good guy"! You may have saved a life. They always say "if you see something, say something " you took it a step further. You are a true gentleman and good samaritan! We need MORE people like you. May God bless you. 😊🙏
Thank you for helping her..❤
Not blaming anyone but people need to watch out for their friends! If someone is drunk make sure they are not alone!
When in doubt call an ambulance at least if they are in an er they arent out in the street
Well said Elsa
They said a friend was going with the first guy but but when she didnt come outside after a few min he walked on alone.
@@jessraelayne766 I know and I dont think its anyone's fault but if they could make a pact we are not leaving alone. It may help less of these tragedies. In my town we had dial a ride for the teens so if they were drunk they got a ride home free it was a town run thing. Didnt have teens die as much. It's just so tragic so sad for the families and friends.
@Kibbles vonButterscotch An ambulance ride is cheaper than a funeral
@Native Nfree exactly! And sometimes they need medical care. I was in the er 8 years and icu 10 and I cant tell you how many girls in prom dresses we had to put on life support! So if their friends are drunk enough to be unconscious please call 911. You wont be in trouble for saving the lives!
As a person whose mother became severely mentally ill at 30 I have opinions on Kaylen's case. The mental illness likely wasn't sudden, but people have been blowing off symptoms as stress and personality. Losing a job probably wasn't the catalyst but the straw that broke the camel's back. My mom could have "normal" conversations an texts all the time, and even meet people face to face and seem "normal." I trust the roommate who spent more time around her than family. Sheshould have been given help at least by that 3rd 911 call. Also, if she was having delusions I can easily imagine her drowning trying to save her dog from that river. Or someone else.
I am usually really good at hiding my mental health issues...I do have days where they are very evident, but the majority of the time I'm wearing a mask
I’ve been through a methamphetamine induced psychosis once at college and I also called 911 and my parents believing there was an active shooter in the school. It warps your reality so bad that you do believe whatever paranoid nightmare there is in your head. Whatever the cause is either schizophrenia, random psychosis or something drug induced it surely has the patterns.
Many who start having mental health issues r confused themselves and will go to great lengths to hide it and make sure nobody knows. Sounds to me like a psychotic episode. I’ve seen other vids about this poor girl and there r several very likely causes for her to end up in the water. So sad and horrific. Could happen to anyone.
What issues do you have if I may ask?
Kayelynn definitely had a psychotic break. Just because it’s rare for it to happen so “late” in life, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. She didn’t mean to kill herself, but she was hearing voices, her brother had committed suicide before that point, so while it’s normal to want to believe “no she was fine before then, she didn’t have a history, etc etc-“ she was in a crisis and unfortunately wandered too far near water, maybe was trying to “escape” something and fell in. I don’t think this one is mysterious. Sad, but not mysterious.
Apparently investigators don't know much about long Island ice tea. It's all alcohol with a splash of sour mix and coke for color.
5 shots
That’s exactly what I was thinking 💭
This! I heard that and said WTF? A Long Island will fuck you up good. Someone does not know what a LIIT is.
My immediate thought lol long islands taste good and are full of alcohol. You're getting fairly drunk after just 2.
@@sabrefreeeek not always 5, but at the very least 4. Never only 2. Now...they are 1/2 ounce shots if they are being made correctly (been bartending for 12 years, and that's the standard for a LIT). Not full 1-1 1/2 ounce shots like a standard shot would be. But still...2-3oz of mixed liquor per drink is a HELL OF A LOT of alcohol, especially if you're not a heavy drinker.
"Only had 2 to 6 long island iced teas" long island iced teas are in the top 6 most potent mixed drinks. Idk about anywhere else but most bars I've been to won't serve you more than 2 maybe 3 bc of how strong they are
They're so stout. I'm a 230 pd 6 1 seasoned drinker and 6 LITs would knock me on my Ass!
Yes, they are strong. I used to drink them. They go down smooth but will put you under the table.
Onevwill knock u on ur ass!!
Powerful drink to me even more powerful than a rusty nail
Same..here in Alaska the limit is two Long Island teas...apparently the police didn't do a good job
In terms of alcohol there's a huge difference between 2 to 5 drinks especially with a drink that is 85% alchohol
The whole „murderous gang leaving smilie faces somewhere in the area“ seems to me a fixed idea of two bored ex-detectives. The sad thing is that it muddies the waters for cases that are actually suspicious.
exactly, they are profiting from the families putting these ideas in their head
My thoughts exactly, sure there seems to be a pattern but chalking it up to a supposed jealous gang using the most easy to draw graffiti is absurd.
for real. Its astonishing people are putting ANY thought into it. Like people aren't going around and like "ooh look here its a white athletic guy who's suuuuper drunk, LETS GO DROWN HIM". White guys, especially DRUNK white guys are fucking stupid and reckless
The truth is the missing men is extremely eerie to me and makes me feel so uneasy. The killers motive isn’t money or robbery, or ransom… just plain murder.
This seem like a lone sexual predator. Throughout this entire video, I haven't heard them checking for sexual assault on these men. I believe these men are kidnapped, kept alive for a period of time while being sexually assaulted. Then killed and disposed of
The second one actually seems pretty straight forward tbh. I thought it was funny when his mom was like “He’d given a waitress a $200 tip at the club, how could he not have money for cab fare?” I mean, probably because he was making financial decisions like tipping $200 lol
Long island has rum and gin as well. Having 5 of them would get you drunk especially if you don't drink.
Yeah, they'll knock you on your ass. Most of these seem to be accidental drownings, not anything sinister. Watch out for your drunk,/possibly mentally ill friends.
@@evabell9749 that's what I'm thinking about his case.
@@deetw6470 yep. get drunk fast, that's what I did when I was on a tight budget.
@,Foxxxie Yiffer Right. It's got vodka, gin, tequila, rum triple sec, & a splash of cola to be exact. Thats been my drink of choice for years!! 😋 🍷
They said he only had two, but was he used to drinking? I drink so rarely, one would make me drunk.
I know the long island ice teas I had in my twenties had at least 6 different shots of alcohol in them. I only needed one!
Exactly! When she said he had FIVE I was like whoa!!!
Yeah It’s vodka, tequila, gin, rum and cointreau. So drinking FIVE I would be on the floor🤣 shit faced!
Me too!! 3 and i was WASTED!!!🤪🤣😄
between 2&5🤣🤣
Exactly. 3 Long Islands is a good amount of alcohol.
The drug isn’t called GBH, it’s actually called GHB. I used to be an addict & I took GHB in liquid form almost daily (wasn’t my DOC but my friend always had GHB so we took it all the time along with our DOC) & I never once have heard anyone ever call it GBH.
Crazy
It’s hard enough to lose someone. I can’t imagine losing one of my children & not knowing exactly what had happened! My heart goes out to the family members & friends of the deceased.
I can't believe the dude's friends just left him. So messed up :/
Men, particularly young men, don’t see public places as dangerous the way most women do. It inspires overconfidence.
Most these cases involving drunk men disappearing also involve their friends being just as drunk as they are. Alcohol effects decision making & basic common sense implementation. Really the friends probably thought "He'll be well" because he's athletic, have a rep for being responsible & most importantly, is a man. I personally feel that most people don't worry much about a man being drunk walking alone at night as much as they do for women. People need to understand that there's predators that also hunt for men.
If he wasn’t a big drinker and had that many Long Island Iced Teas, he was extremely drunk. His sorry so called friends just left him.
Tbf, they weren't sober themselves, and even if not as tanked as Patrick, the booze still affects judgement/decision-making.
Also, bc he's a fit, muscular young bloke, they prob thought "He'll be right".
Like, not many ppl do worry about a young adult male walking alone at night, at least, not in the same way they worry about young female adults walking at night.
Ppl forget that some predators hunt guys, and for the same reasons other predators hunt women, or kids.
@@alekt-s3035 This comment needs to be posted over and over again. Spot on.
I never drink, so I don't think I could handle even half of the Long Island Ice tea!
@@ellemarr7234 Yeah. I am so irritated by all these people expecting other drunk teens to be their baby sitter. As it either of the people in the group was alert enough to take care of another. Each person should know their limits and are responsible for their own safety.
@@sonjah9520 is this not what hefty fines are for, to prevent barstaff from doing this though?
I’ve worked in bars for a very long time. I was drugged once and a few years later found out the bartender had been doing it to people! I had one drink at 1:30 AM (we were allowed since the bar was closing at 2). After about twenty minutes I was told that I was standing at the front of the bar talking to a customer and then my eyes rolled back and I passed out. I don’t remember any of it. It’s very scary!
Wow! That’s super scary! I’m glad you’re ok now!
It's possible those bartenders are in it. They know who drank the laced drink and the men with strong instinct knew something doesn't feel right and decided to go home. And that bartender then contacts the "men" to say the drugged person is leaving, who then they'll follow
@@BOREDANDWELLBORED that’s what I was wondering! And you would never even suspect it. The bartender I worked with did it for years and nobody caught on and we had cameras EVERYWHERE. We always thought it was another customer doing it. I even heard him laugh once about putting visine in a girls drink to be a prick . He was a total scumbag !
@@PrayThenBreathe1528 thanks! I always worry about people who have nobody around. I mean it truly hits you out of nowhere and you don’t remember a thing till the next day. I could’ve been robbed, raped, killed and wouldn’t have had a clue. It’s sad that people have to worry about stuff like this.
Rachel Wyatt Thank God your ok , not remembering is frightening !!!!
Unsolved mysteries frustrate me so so much but I still watch them.
They said the first guy, “wasn’t completely wasted,” in the same sentence that they said his BAC was 0.16. That’s exactly twice the legal limit.
I’m sorry but... 10 days!? They waited 10 to before they started looking for an underage kid who was waste in NYC? WTH
Adult.. that can up n leave whenever they want to.. lmao.. A tragic ending but..
I thought the same exact thing!!!
Why don’t they just have a young man pretend to be intoxicated and wire him as well as follow him waiting to see who takes him?
Right.
They did this on a recent SVU that might have been inspired by a true story. It worked but of course its TV and cop-paganda, but I'd love to see an attempt at this irl
Good idea
“It would cost Too much money” would be the answer im assuming law enforcement would give.
Oooo I like this idea
Stumbling around New York streets at night while drunk is a bad idea.
I think just being outdoors and drunk anywhere can be dangerous too
Yes, but it’s not exactly uncommon.
For the Kayelyn case, Schizophrenia can happen at any time in someone's life. It can just randomly happen when they are 30 or even 40 and sad events can trigger it. I have a feeling she just started to have schizophrenia symptoms, but mistaken them to be real. It's sad, but it does happen. Step mom is a therapist and has had 30 + year olds come into her office and began just having schizophrenia out of nowhere. My Grandmother's brother also started having symptoms of Schizophrenia and was in a mental hospital at a very late time in his life, I believe either late 20's to mid 30's. I can also say that mental health issues does not mean you cannot make you unable to speak with people normally. I have mental illness and I know others as well and we can keep a normal conversation.
I have a feeling she was having an episode and walked to the creek and fell in and couldn't get out due to the episode. I do think the roommate should've contacted her family to tell them the episodes she have been having like calling the police on things that were not happening and kept a little guard on her, seeing she is obviously not in a right mind. Then again, it's not their responsibility, but morally, I do think they should've watched her. I literally watched that video and instantly knew she was having some sort of episode involving mental health at that time.
So, I have to disagree on the fact that it was more, especially when the police went to a wedding of all places and were told nothing was wrong and they heard no gunshots.
I’ve been through a methamphetamine induced psychosis once at college and I also called 911 and my parents believing there was an active shooter in the school. It warps your reality so bad that you do believe whatever paranoid nightmare there is in your head. Whatever the cause is either schizophrenia, random psychosis or something drug induced it surely has the patterns.
As a former waitress in a bar that catered to a university/college crowd I can assure you that if anyone drank more than one or two Long Island Iced Teas I would have taken their keys away.
Their perception of the amount of alcohol in each LIIT is grossly understated, five shots of alcohol. The Police need a refresher course, at least the ones handling this case sure do. Poor guy, sounds pretty fishy (no pun intended) to me. RIP
Since when does a long island iced tea only contain a small amount of tequila and vodka?! It's all liquor with a splash of pop.
Plus gin and rum.
For the Kayline case I will said about my own experience with mental health issues. Not all folks with mental health issues have been diagnosed with it, a lot people like myself avoids medical help due to be affrai of the "stigma" that a label can do, specially people that work. I was able to hide my depression from family, friends, neighbor, coworkers etc. The day I tried suicide everybody couldn't believe why I tried to kill myself because I didnt look or sound depressed. Maybe the girl had a not diagnosed mental health or family is in denial, sometimes is more "easy" acept foul play than mental health issues. I hope whatever was her cause of death she can find peace and her family can find strength to keep their lives moving on.
I heard she had a twin brother that shot and killed their uncle so some family history of mental illness could be there.
@@andrewcochrane5751 Yeah she could have a mental issue. Im not a health care professional but in the tapes and videos that midia showed to the public she sounds mentally confuse. It could be a case pf denial where she did behave before and family brushes off as "odd" or "different" but never cared to indentified if was some mental problem underlining. Is sad, she was a very young woman and perhaps with medical care could possibly prevented her to behave erradicaly.
You are so honest and open. You're bravery and ability to bare yourself shows how incredibly brave and strong you are. Im willing to bet you have saved a few lives or more. Thank you.
Amen to that I also suffer from mental illness too.
@@MrMarco855 I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but how can you say with certainty she never displayed any mental health issues? Was she drugged? She clearly displayed erratic behavior. Her father said she was depressed, her roommate said she was acting delusional, the unexplained calls to 911, which were clearly signs of something wrong considering what she was reporting was not actually happening. And then there is the video of her in the parking lot standing in the rain barefoot with no umbrella displaying erratic behavior, seemingly talking to someone who wasn't there. I'm not saying she couldn't have been murdered. It's totally plausible, but to say she had no mental health issues, I think we can say there was something going on with her mental health. And one more thing, during her call to 911 where she reported people in her house, her roommate was heard on the line saying no one is here and the door is locked. Is her roommate a suspect? Like I said, not to be a jerk, and maybe this story is being told the wrong way, but I think it's pretty clear something wasn't right with her mentally. At least at the time of her disappearance.
A long island iced tea has a whole lot more liquor than that.
Tequila, vodka, gin, triple sec and rum
Jesus lol
THANK U I always about to be like ‘what kind of Long Island Ice Tea’ was he consuming ?!
@@kimberlyfabbri4258 but he only had five LOL
That's why I limit myself to 2 max of those lol
@Bill Blass 😂 No they don't
Kayelyns death absolutely sounds like an accident with no foul play. My main assumption for kayelyn louder is she was using psychedelic drugs, and perhaps her parents are denying this in the toxicology report due to being in deep denial this could be the reason for her death and wanting a deeper explanation or somewhere else to point direction, like foul play rather than an accident due to someone not being in a stable/ coherent state of mind . Sad to say but unfortunately I don’t believe anyone else was involved in this
On one hand, I can see the theory of the smiley face killers... on the other, drownings can easily happen. We had a 17-year-old drown in a frequented lake in my hometown. He wasn't even intoxicated. He was healthy. It happens
How do you explain all these men ended up MILES away from their locations?🤔🤔
@@sistersofthemaccabees2497 Water moves..
@@mikaelasjunnesson4741 Nonsense!
A Long Island is a strong drink. Almost all alcohol but the indoor larvae is very suspicious.
Young people listen up - you don’t ever leave your friends in a bad position. Period. Do the right thing no matter how much you don’t want to!
having a friend like that dont look for youwhen you're drunk is a big NO for me
Agreed!
Getting drunk at all is a big no for me. I dont see how getting drunk or high is fun..
Rather do soo many other things than that.
Been drunk before and I hated it
Been high 2x and made me paranoid to the point one of the times I thought my boyfriend laced it and was going to murder me. The other time I thought I was in a coma fighting to either wake up or stay asleep.
No thanks. I like control over myself and my thoughts and not go mentally insane.
I thought Long Island ice teas were loaded with booze? Maybe not, I could be wrong, but I thought they were kinda known for that lol.
They are, they are messy 😂
That’s what I thought too lol. My brother got wasted off of them back at his 21st birthday lmao. He was a lightweight back then but it strong enough where my grandma was repulsed by it 😂😂
They have vodka, tequila, rum and gin.
@LolaB Nope, you're right. It is!!.
@@teriyazzie1996 don't 4get the triple sec & splash of cola! 😋 🍷
Why people don't take delusional people to a hospital!????? I would never understand it! if my friend or family were saying they heard someone talking in the apartment, called 911 in several occasions, without even remembering their address... what else do you need to see there's a mental problem there!!??
Also, the amout of cases when someone disappears and their friends or family are like "oh well.. I would search tomorrow, time to sleep" makes my blood boil...
The Patrick McNeil disappearance happened around the corner from my apartment when I was 8. I’ve never forgotten it and for some reason, I just mentioned it to my husband earlier this week. I can’t believe it’s being covered here. His parents and friends handed out fliers in my neighborhood for days after he went missing. It has always stayed with me.
Sounded like a sxual motive poor boy !
Sad s things about these these case , as all's case s is police .are possibly at aloss before they evers get started ECT. Is they must have evidence s . So unless they come ups with reals games changers . Cases as the missings wills go unsolved s . As Dna slows toos slows like police department s are
I drove a cab for two years. Even on my worst night I literally wouldn't have even opened the door if two kids ran on a 40 dollar fare. Just turn the meter off and get another fare. Plus the driver knew which club they were going too. so he could have just told the manager they stiffed him, the club manager is going to side with the person who literally brings him customers.
The problem with these types of comments that irks me is it always assumes everyone is exactly the same as you. Same context, same ideology, same experiences, same impulses. You can’t just say “well I wouldn’t do X so it’s suspicious that someone else did X” is ludicrous.
I went to highschool with Kayelyn, the police did not investigate and there is absolutely NO way she drowned on her own and floated to were she was, many areas the water was below the knee or dry in some spots, there are grates over many areas of the river between her home and where she was found. Literally not possible. Also, She was talking to her dog, loads of people talk to their pets.
I feel like her disappearance is supernatural. That 911 phone call with her roommate and you can hear a voice (demon?) In the background but her room mate can't hear it and thinks she's going crazy
@@BOREDANDWELLBORED she was beautiful, intelligent and funny. She was someone who was not disliked by anyone. She spoke with family and her close friends daily and her family is very tight. She had a degree in social work and would likely know she was not feeling herself and would have acknowledged as much or she would likely have discussed it with her mom or fam who she spoke to the day she disappeared. The investigation from the start was passed off as mental illness and an accident because she talked to her dog. She left in the pouring rain barefoot, in shorts and tshirt without her phone, shoes or keys, And was running through the parking lot on video. BUT Because she was seen on video talking to ger dog, had the suspicious 911 calls, and a room mate who def made her look crazy and seemed almost unaffected about her missing room mate to investigators, so early on people had ideas of her being involved but not anything to go on. She came off as standoff ish. There were many searches all along the creek that converges into the jordan river, in the spring its high water but very shallow or dry in areas in the fall. She could not have fallen in near her house died in a cpl feet of water and floated without being seen by hundreds of searchers who searched the creek to the river repeatedly. The autopsy was a joke, and they were lazy. They did very little to try and find her and what happened to her! There have been a number of women that age locally who have gone missing over the years . The family has suffered through so much. Because she talked to her little dog when take it out to use the bathroom, police and randoms basically made her look crazy and her family may never know what happened. A tragedy for this beautiful human!
@Beautiful Disaster she acted like she was nuts, and came across uncaring and standoff ish and that put a real sour taste in peoples mouth, for a long time the roomate was a suspect to the public . but she is unlikely the person responsible.
@@jenfrisk996 the most idiotic thing the media does is call people off as "crazy". They take things out of context. Her 911 call regarding the wedding was legit, they admitted that they had fireworks and could have been mistaken as gun shots. People know when somebody is trying to kill them, that's called instinct. She knew it ahead of time. I suspect it's somebody very close to her as most murders do. Since she's now dead, it would be nice to know anything about her love life. I had similar experience in the past, and yes it was over a man jealous that I talked to his girl. Somebody she once dated or even a family member isn't far fetched, there's a thin line between love and hate and not everybody is strong enough to control their emotions, unfortunately. The weak are the most dangerous.
The outside video is very scary why was she in the rain acting completely crazy and where was she running to?.
Hi, art therapist here!
Regarding Kayelyn, there are more psychotic disorders than just schizophrenia. I believe she could have been suffering from a Brief Psychotic Disorder. For this disorder she only would need to show at least one psychotic symptom (In her case, delusions and possibly hallucinations) and this episode can last anywhere from 1 day to a month. Onset of brief psychotic disorder is due to major stress such as loss of a loved one or in her case, job loss. So just because she did not show any symptoms prior to her disappearance doesn't dismiss this disorder because of its sudden onset.
I read another comment saying that some years previously, her brother died of suicide and that was why she went into that line of work. When she was unable to obtain work she could have felt she failed her brother. She may have been throwing herself into school and work, trying to help others and she may have never truly dealt with the loss of her brother, thinking if she could save others it would help her heal. This is all speculation of course but definitely could have been a psychotic episode, seems more likely to me than schizophrenia or it was foul play involved, which I think is very likely.
I love it when ppl know what they're talking about 👍
So what’s the mortality rate of this disorder? How many people disappear from a populated area unseen by any video… and they drop dead with no way to determine how they ended up dead without cause and no one can explain he they we’re where they were when they are found. It really does not matter what mental illness she did or didn’t have it still doesn’t explain her disappearance, how she died, and how she ended up where she did? These mental illnesses don’t cause sudden death, it’s irrelevant entirely,
@@jenfrisk996 Mental illnesses can cause sudden death but I agree, I don't think that is what happened here.
Hey
Therapist here. Sadly, Kaylelyn's case is extremely typical behavior for someone with rapid onset psychosis. Either schizophrenia, Bipolar Disorder 1, or Schizoaffective disorder could have caused her delusional thinking & auditory hallucinations. The real "mystery" of this case is why the police didn't immediately act to get her help. In my current role, my job is to treat people in the exact circumstances as Kayleyn's--police, family, & friends call to request an immediate in-person assessment for individuals experiencing severe mental health crises & I go out to there homes for an assessment. Its so heartbreaking & enraging such a service was not offered to her, or if not available in her area, she hit all the criteria to be places on a transportation hold by the police to the hospital. If this had happened where I live, the police who allowed her to stay in her home while clearly in the midst of a severe mental crisis could be held liable. They should have been held liable in this case as well, so this never happens again. Such a heartbreaking and preventable loss of young life.
Kaylen most likely fell victim to the seemingly harmless but deadly creeks in a Utah rainstorm. The mountain cities make the water flow quickly downhill. In a rainstorm, a creek you could have waded across the day before will quickly transform into a deadly current that will carry you away. We can speculate all kinds of other ways she got into the river, but “all things being equal, the simplest explanation is the best one.”
Hi Julianna how are you doing?
This is high key the best channel to listen to while cleaning the house!
Thanks😒 I kept saying "one more video and I'll start cleaning" 😁
That's exactly what I do too 😊
No cap. That’s when they randomly popped up and starting playing on my phone while I was cleaning at work.. Nd now I’m hooked, everyday at work I have my AirPods in playing these
So truee
I listen to this while making food
Has anyone thought that the smiley face killer could be a bartender 🤔🧐
Smiley case killer theory is bullshit. Research it. Can be easily debunked. Not to say some of those cases weren’t murders, just that there isn’t a group of killers traveling the country killing young, drunk while men and leaving no evidence behind all the while drawing smiley faces nearby as a calling card. Please.
There are many serial killers that used a smiley face with or around their victim's. Robert Yates got that label because the grocery bags he used to suffocate his victims came from a store that had a smiley face on it. If there are people out there killing like this they choose their victims because they cant fight back as hard or they inadvertently were killed by accident while being robbed. Either way the smiley face with the serial killers weren't an intentional thing. One serial killer who used a smiley face with his letter to the police he stated was just a slight he did to mock the police it had zero significance to him at all as with others that had used a smiley face in some fashion.
For the sake of it let's say that to be true he/shes a bartender and slipped drugs in their drinks. Is it a good idea? Maybe but if they were a bartender and working how would they get away from the bar on a busy night to go murder someone without someone noticing they arent tending the bar then slip back without detection?
@@thomasj.foolery7025 thank you, people need stop buying into every conspiracy theory they hear
@@Zaners82123 If you paid attention during the video all the men murdered left the bar at closing time. So the bar tender would have time to act.
@@sullifishing4035 if you have ever worked at a bar or restuarant for that matter then you will know that its closing time for the patrons and stragglers are still take some time to push them out. There's a breakdown and clean up that is needed to be done. It's not oh it's closing time and immediately leave.
All his "friends" just left him alone and unprotected when the saw the condition he was in, sick and totally vulnerable to whatever freak came along. Young people today need to choose your friends very carefully, very carefully. My son was in that position once when he was 18. But thank God he had two very good friends who brought him home to us and stayed while EMT's and cops came and answered the police and EMT questions even though they could have been arrested cause they were all under age. He was close to alcohol toxic and could have died if they had just left him there. I thanked them and hugged them for doing that. The cops were very good about it too. No arrested and drive the boys home, told the m to come back pick up their car the next day after they were totally sober. My son and me and my husband had a very bad night with him being so sick and out of it. If not for his friends things could have gone very badly for my son.
Friend code dictates that someone in the friend group has to babysit the most trashed friend in the group. The babysitting job usually goes to the DD friend, the wall-flower friend, the struggling-with-sobriety friend, or the most rational/mature friend of the group. And the rest of the group rage on, but someone in the group knows who left with who and how they left, and when friends ask about other members of the group, friends pass the word on. That's just the basics of caring about friends, especially when having a good time together. When it comes to the friend that never drinks having a few too many and has clearly overdone it, it is completely irresponsible of the friend group to not watch out for that person. And in the case of the college kid that was drinking underage, it's not reasonable to assume he was being completely responsible for himself or using the best judgement when drinking with friends at the bar. Teens and young adults have limited experience with anything for navigating the adult world, and therefore could be very short on common sense. So, it's safe to assume that the kid hadn't figured out his own tolerance or limits yet, and his friends were probably entertained watching him get white-gurl wasted, and they probably weren't experienced enough in those situations to not leave every man for himself. It's not a house party, it's a bar in a city; Look out for eachother if you give a shit what happens to one another.
Either that or there's an underground North American ring of InCels plotting murderously sinister schemes, stalking groups of good looking and fit guys out partying together, and executing wasted "Chads" that get momentarily separated from their group. This is a truly disturbed societal exigency we've arrived at.
It's probably a fraternity ritual killing if the disappearances are in the hundreds. Being a ritual would also explain the demographic of men being targeted.
@@c.c.7254 Except it's the frat guys getting murked. InCels; the real scourge of humanity. Dudes that can't get over other dudes catchin more ass than they could even dream up. Sad losers.
The two who disappeared at the quarry, if they had seen the sign, they would've understood it was dangerous just from the picture on the danger sign if they didn't know French. You're taught about danger signs at a young age, so they would've understood just from the picture on the sign if they didn't understand French.
But if they're running from a taxi to get out of paying a bill they probably aren't studying the signs
The not knowing is the worst 🥺
Actually atheists loves not knowing
@@BOREDANDWELLBORED we know science
One time I was drinking Jameson w friends and when I got up to go home it hit me really hard. My friend got me an uber and when we arrived to my house I was passed out and my uber was a girl so she took my phone and called the last person in my call log which was my friend that lived nearby and the uber girl was so nice she took me to her house and made sure I was okay. I wish I could thank her, she was my angel that night. I would do the same for anyone bcus you never know what could happen. Thank you God 🙏
That “Whaaaat is up EEEWUUUU crrreeeww?” always makes me happy, settled in for some pro story telling.
I absolutely enjoy and appreciate your work/channel 👊🏼😉
The first two cases you talked about with the college boys who disappeared and then reappeared in a river months later is crazy because of the Brendan Santo case that’s happening rn. He was missing for months and they just found his body in a river…
The title should be Mysterious Death Found in Rivers
@ or around 20:00
They never heard from the cab driver again? And they just said f*ck it?? ..... Really?
Why wouldn't they have called every local cab company, to find out who was scheduled that night to work, and interview all of them?? Or ask their employers if there is any strange behavior with their employees, around the time of this murder? Or if there was anyone who called into work the next day, after the crime?? They literally did NOTHING they were supposed to do! Interviewing people, is step #1 in the 'Cops for Dummies' handbook! Are you kidding me right now??
I don’t know any details of the Montreal police budget but I imagine insufficient resources come into play at times like these
If they were doctors and business men, the case might have more attention... 😳
Cops from Montreal. Don't want paperwork. It's only a few hours. Come back later.
No trace of violence, But have severe injuries.
Cops didn't want to work the MP 'cause they're male strippers.
Saw on camera, but never mentioned taxi # or license plate. They have them in Canada.
Nope. Not suspicious at all.
Welcome to Quebec.
Montreal pd is kinda notorious for simply not following up with things that seem like they'd be common procedure. They don't seem like they want to do their jobs, half the time.
There are good cops, and there are bad cops. And then there are incompetent cops. Unfortunately being incompetent in some occupations is more dangerous than in others.
Geez this sounds eerily similar to the “drowning” death of the young, Bronx, Librarian Javier Horta. He wasn’t white or as Young as these young men but his death is still strange and some details on here are similar to his 🤔
I'm here to comment on the amount of alcohol in a LIT. Thankfully, I see that's been taken care of..
Right !!!! It seems the millennial s think there's only a few shots lmao
@@lesliesmith6683 millennials are not young teens. The oldest millennial is hugging 40 and the youngest are kissing 30. You all need to learn the proper times for these labels. Generation Z are new drinkers. Most millennials are past new drinker phase
“Brian, who wasn’t a big drinker, ONLY had 2 - 5 Long-island Iced teas.” LMAO yall do know what a Long Island Iced tea is right? 😂
This has to be my favorite narrator. What a legendary voice
I went to NYC in 2011 on my own(from England). I was 24 and I stayed in a hostel. The first night I was there, a group of middle aged men that I'd just met started chatting to me and I ended up walking a few blocks with them to a shisha bar. I left after an hour and walked back alone. Im now 33 and I can't believe I was so niave
indeed my deaqr, the things i did in the 80s.. my angels worked overtime i am sure!! although i had bad lessons to learn along the way, yes, you were very lucky :)
Dani Kat: I agree I also think the world was very different place then... my friend and I went back packing for three months when we were in our late 20s from Thailand to Egypt to Europe, many time we were drunk and even slept (or not) on the streets or outside of bus/train-stations even across from hotels etc (travelling was VERY VERY expensive then) now 20yrs later I would NEVER allow my 20yr old nephew (or anyone I know for that matter ) to do that now.... not in this day & age!!!!
That is very dangerous!!
I once got a ride home from 4 guys I had just met while I was extremely drunk...good lord Im lucky to be alive
Hi TerminallyElle how are you doing?
Judging from the comments I've been drinking some shitty long Island ice teas 😅
🤣🤣🤣
Long island iced tea is suppose to be mostly alcohol. And, two is plenty for a "normal drinker". 4-6 would be a blackout style night for just about anyone.
Long Islands have a ton of alcohol in them so 5 would get you trashed. And its GHB not GBH
vodka and tequila? a little? wtf is wrong with them! long islands have dark and light alcohol the worst cocktail you can get!
I wonder what they meant by "indoor fly"? I've never heard anyone use that term and there are no flies that will colonize a body that are exclusive to inside buildings.
The young lady who made the 911 calls.....you would think the officer would have taken her to crisis.sometimes people just need some help.. That's sad. The officer should have done more what a shame ..
My mother was diagnosed at age 47 of schizophrenia after acting crazy for a a couple years and eventually getting pulled over and beaten by police! It’s crazy! She had never been in any trouble prior and they hurt her and broke her hip because she was talking to people who were not there when she was pulled over! I wish that police had better training!
@Antonio Armanio ouch
Bi poloar type 1. Disorder with mania & psychosis .
My heart goes out to the parents of these young people .How awful not knowing what happened and being left with so many questions ,especially when there is very strange circumstances like the young boys went through ,there was a pattern but no real explanation ..I hope some answers come in years to come so they get some kind of peace
Hi Christine how are you doing?
Wow these are some wild cases n all anybody in comments can talk about is how to make long Island ice tea
Lol
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
No it’s just they are very strong and it seems the cops didn’t know and the narrator said it wasn’t strong. If he drank that much he’d be wasted. And another thing is isn’t blood alcohol level decreasing as time goes by. Just a question
It’s called correcting misinformation.
"Small amount of vodka and tequila".
I had one, or one and a half and I felt like I was dying a few hours later. I thought I had alcohol poisoning or something. Never again!
She very well may have had mental health issues and her family was in denial. The fact that she made no sense on the 911 calls and her flat mate noticed her odd behaviour means there was definitely something up. So saying 30 seems old for an initial onset well it may not have been schizophrenia and I have a family member who had a psychotic break in his 40s from stress and was later diagnosed with bipolar disorder. He had never had a psychotic break before. It took a few years for him to recover fully and go back to normal even though he is still bipolar we just didn’t notice the symptoms. It’s odd when someone is functional they can hide a mental illness quite well until they have a large trigger.
What happened to Kaitlyn's dog?
That’s why I came to the comment section
Why would witnesses let a strange man follow a young drunk man and not say or do anything? Why don't friends ever keep their drunk friends around them and watch them. Never ever let your drunk friends walk home alone so many people go missing.
Everyone knows that The Long Island Iced Tea is infamous for being a deceptively strong drink and several of them is more than enough to land anyone is just that situation.
Usually bartenders will only serve you a few of them. It's a strong drink so bartenders are trained to check on their customers after serving a lit.
"Indoor fly larvae laid in the groin area"
I don't get grossed out easily, and trust me, I love animals, but that's disturbing.
In Kaylen's case I'd have to point out it could have been a stress triggerd migraine.
I have chronic migraines that are often very debilitating and cause episodes of paranoia and confusion to the point I forget my name. And the cool rain probably felt nice on her head and skin. If it was flooding from the rain, she could have fallen in the creek from a loss of balance and/or partial loss of eyesight.
This sounds like something that could very well have happened to me if I did not understand I was having a migraine.
Sorry to hear you've had issues with arrogant and/or ignorant people while transitioning into the new format. I read that you aren't narrating your videos. But, I was convinced this is Emma. Either way, wonderful job. I enjoyed your content before, and I enjoy it now. Thank you for sharing, and wish you all the best!
Its crazy! Now I know why I'm still alive! Cuz I had solid friends. Everytime I hear this kinda story it all goes back to asshole friends!
I love this type of episodes
and me .here in windy cold UK
Meeee too!!!👀😁
Yo a fellow cyberman
@@brandonmiller8351 yo
I live in the same condominiums as Kaylynn did. I remember that night and with the rain we had the creek was VERY high. When I heard about her disappearance I remember thinking that she must have fallen in the creek and drowned. And then they found her drowned.
@@MrMarco855 if that is so why don't you tell the police, hmmm.?
I have been the victim of a dangerous stalker. I remember people talking about me like I was just weird. I remember being terrified he was gonna just take me and kill me....they finally arrested him and he had duct tape, rope and a knife in this trunk. Along with a notebook filled with my first name. Kaylen looked like she was running from someone.
I'm glad that you are still here
Hi patunia how are you doing?
If she was being chased the camera would've caught someone chasing her. She was being delusional and thought she would've been safe in the water probobly and drowned
Y’all are so close to 1M! Can’t wait for it! Y’all deserve so much more hype then you get
God dammit, now I want a Long Island Iced Tea
Me too.
Case #2 Brian, it's Gary, IN not IL and it's pronounced DeK(c)alb, IL. The correct city & states are important when hoping to get/give proper info. Love the channel.
The death of Patrick McNeil freaks me out. If Kevin Gannon is correct - that means he was held captive for days being tortured and who knows what else. I don't necessarily buy into the SFK theory.... but there is definitely something going on with all these guys ending up in rivers under suspicious circumstances.
Ngl I don't see any reason to think the two strippers were murdered. The cabby chased them to get his money back, but they were out of reach so he gave up. They were drunk and full of adrenaline, running around in the dark and unfortunately fell to their deaths.
Throwing out baseless accusations like a mysterious man in the cab (who would have had to convince the cabby to chase them, hopped the fence after them and then killed the 2 men who everyone says were plenty strong enough to fight back all by himself) or it being some conspiracy in the industry just seems silly. I know death is hard to accept but sometimes an accident is just an accident.
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Wow its really important for buddies to stick together when drinking. Good grief, 3 people unrelated saw him in bad shape and did nothing! I would never watch someone in that shape outside and not do something! NO matter if I knew the person or not. You have a responsibility if you drink with others to take care of each other. So everyone fails him and he dies....
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My grandmother didn't develop paranoid schizophrenia until her early 50s, so Kaylen potentially developing it late isn't too farfetched.
My son has a friend whose uncle disappeared after being in a bar for a few mins. He decided to walk & disappeared. He was found in the lake near the bar.
This was Alexandria, MN & what shocked me was I was sure I'd heard of this same scenario in Alexandria, MN a few years b4! Someone else just walked into the lake & drowned! Come on now!
A year later the friend knew nothing about the case. She didn't know if it was closed or still open & she was close to her uncle growing up. They were only a few yrs apart. Even tho she was an adult when this happened, her family wouldn't tell her what was going on.
& how can this happen twice & be cowincedental? I want to know what happened to this young man. Were both drunk so fell into the lake? If so that bar or the city better get fence around that dangerous lake, or rock landscape so it's not such a dangerous area for inebriated individuals. 🙀😿😾😷
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I think it's likely that Kayelyn suffered a psychosis though. An episode doesn't have to be preceded by recorded or observed mental illness or disorder, but can result from stressful situations, drug and/or alcohol use, etc. Besides, there is a starting point to the onset of any psychotic disorder suggested anyway, and maybe that was it?
"not a big drinker, only had 2-5 long island ice teas" .......are you kidding me. 5 long islands will mess you up
Check out missing 411...theres many more cases like these.
I've done extensive reading on The Smiley Face Killers and I've learned that there have been hundreds of cases in the Eastern United States and even some possible cases in the UK. I'm inclined to believe that a few of these cases are connected to the SFK. Great stories... keep 'em coming! 👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
I had no idea about the SFK before this…it’s absolutely frightening and chilling! I definitely believe these deaths were homicides and not accidental. Even if you’re close to the point of being blackout drunk, most people would never have the sense to jump off a bridge or cross 8 lanes of traffic or wander so far away from their hotel. There is definitely foul play involved. If these guys were on drugs then maybe jumping off a bridge or falling into water would be plausible…but none of these guys were on drugs or else their toxicology reports would’ve indicated it. And so many bodies ending up in the river is too much of a coincidence… I always thought drunk girls as opposed to drunk guys were more vulnerable to kidnapping and assault but these stories prove otherwise. It proves guys are just as targeted and vulnerable to being taken advantage of if they’re drunk. I need to read up on SFK this is crazy. Is this still going on? The scariest thing is this could be anyone. It could happen to anybody!
Face killers and lve learned that there have been hunders of cases in eastern u s even some possible cases in the UK.im inclined to believe that a few and these are concerneted to the sfk. Great stories... Keep em coming!
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Hundreds? From an interview I found in 2017, the two investigators attributed the Smiley Face Killers as being responsible for 45 deaths. Beyond that, it's incredibly unlikely that a serial killer (or multiple killers) are working together across multiple countries and using a smiley face as their signature.
Among the many issues with the SFK theory, one is the wide variety of different styles of the "smiley faces". Some are just two dots and a curved line for the smile. Others have a circle drawn around them for the head. At least one has what looks like a tongue sticking out and devil horns.
There are also problems with the locations of the supposed "signature" smiley faces. In some cases, it seems like the two investigators found the smiley face near the location where it was believed the victim had entered the water. In other cases, they found a smiley face at the location where the victim's body was found.
The smiley face killer theory is BS.
Hello there! I live in Laval city. Regarding the two dancers I've checked a couple articles regarding the situation and just wanted to applause your informations. They are all very accurate. If I might add since they ran in the middle of the night this place is very dark and I wouldn't be surprise if they didn't see how deep it was or where they were.
One of the article I found said there was a footage release to the public where you can see the taxi driver going after them in its car. I think anyone being chase down by a car would run for their lives. The coroner who examined their bodies confirmed the fall killed them. No trace of violence were found.
I don't think we should read reddit comments and take them as facts about murder cases.
*FYI: It's very difficult to determine alcohol levels in floating bodies. The interactions between temperature, time, and water characteristics (Ph and pollutants or example), make all measurements very imprecise, at best.*