As much as I believe these people are guilty and that they should both get the chair, that is a very dangerous law to pass because it could just as easily end up putting somebody innocent behind bars. Everybody who always complains about the US legal system being too lenient, don’t understand that there is a good reason for it. That’s why here, no body=no sentence .
There's a couple in California City, USA, that is being charged with the murders of 2 little boy's they adopted because nobody has seen them in over a year. There's no bodies, but there's definitely murder charges
Reasons why I can't be a detective. It's like I recently found out why I can't work in a fish market. I can’t stay serious. I see a gutted fish, my first thought is to make a puppet out of it. I head bs like this, I bust a gut laughing. I can’t do serious or professional lol
thats what I said. ive seen people like her way too much but im hoping not all of them are stupid enough to murder or lie to themself so much that they say "i look 20" to someone when they look 60 + easily
Unfortunately she made it up in her delusional mind that she couldn’t live without him instead of just cutting him loose. If she had been more rational, she would have said, “If you really want to be with her so badly then go-be with her.” Instead she turned into a possessive psycho (although I have my suspicions see always has been and that’s partly the reason Sidney cheating on her in the first place), and a girl is dead because of her.
@@3alaiyer Tammy literally was obsessed with heather because of her husband no longer wanting the marriage. the husband was manipulated and a coward but literally tammy wanted to control him and keep him in her life. she literally did fight for him dude, she was obsessed with keeping him in her life that it drove her to stalking and murder.
@@gwendolyn2442 big agree !!! like her husband had no reason to fight for her considering he was a victim of abuse and saw an affair as an out or something along those lines, hes not innocent but he DEFINITELY is a victim of abuse and it sucks no one is talking about it
I feel like Heather taking that pregnancy test sealed her fate. Once they all saw it was positive all hell broke loose. All over a worthless guy who couldn't control his own life
I feel like his wife made him buy the pregnancy test. Kidnapped heather and made her take the test and when it said positive the wife lost her shit and killed her.
@@Dragonette666 lmfao???? She probably meant he was a middle aged man WHO WAS MARRIED WITH CHILDREN. Not worth any trouble. Also, a guy having a job doesn’t make him a good person. You can date a guy with no job and so long as he isn’t mistreating you or , you know, cheating on his wife and calling you worthless when trying to act like the innocent one who did nothing wrong.
I know right 😂 they said she's in her forties, she looks like she's in her upper 50s. She also said she's partied with a lot of bands. She looks used up.
The cheater will even admit to being unable to commit and said "I will just cheat on you too". People believe others when they show you who they are, the sick need help, not more sex and more children.
YYYYYEEEEESSSS! And every time they get away with it!! .. they get better @ hiding in evidence.. But this young girls need to be educated on abuse/red flags est... too many of them are disappearing😢
Has people NEVERRRR heard of a block button??? I block ANYONE I protect my energy and if necessary I’ll change my number! I’m definitely NOT arguing with a 72 year old woman about her 64 year old husband 😂 And I’m definitely not involving myself with a married man! Even tho I know I can protect myself I’m still smart enough not to upset a woman that looks like she sprinkles Meth on her bagels in the morning 😂😭😂
He bought the pregnancy test to lure her in for a meet up. Heather was frantically calling him because she wants to make sure they are still good to meet up for such an important conversation. She had no idea Tammy was with him. She shows up and is forced to take the pregnancy test in front of both of them and it comes out positive so Tammy loses her sh*t. Tammy killed Heather but Sidney was an accessory to the crime.
i doubt she took that test... Tammy was forcing Sydney as her puppet. Tammy had threaten Heather's life so many times at that point. it was going to happen dispite any test. if you ask me i think both of them should be on death row.
@@CALIGIRL702I doubt it....Tammy was obsessed with her and stalking her. younger, was younger, smart, beautiful. She still would have done it just to destroy her because she was jealous
He’s not an accessory give me a break he’s just guilty, if not more, even if he didn’t stab her or whatever… he is a POS biotch of a “man” … they’re both garbage
I was thinking the exact same thing! She couldn't handle the fact that her husband was able to get someone as young and as beautiful as her and she couldn't let it go it drove her nuts knowing he could go back to her.
@Melinda Bloomington8! truth!!! I always put myself in that other person's shoes and wonder how they'd feel and I couldn't help but to feel her wrath and jealousy towards that beautiful young girl... Sounds crazy right! But I'm not ...I swear!!! 😂
Why don't we blame Tammy for her behavior. Yes he is just as at fault and should be charged accordingly. But this woman clearly abused him and controlled every aspect of this. If it was reversed and he did all this to Tammy y'all would be calling spousal abuse.
In person Sidney doesn't look this young. When we were younger Tammy always looked older than us though. Tammy and I hung out and were friends in middle and high school. She had a wild side and we DID have wild friends but Tammy was usually the sweet, level headed one of our group. As we got older we also kept in touch through Facebook as our kids were growing.
I am of the mindset that Tammy said "I WAS twenty".... meaning when she was that age she was not as wild as Heather (said in an attempt to demonize the younger girl and make herself seem more "innocent and wholesome"). She was speaking very fast and I can understand how people can be mistaken but her saying she "looked" twenty makes absolutely NO sense in the context of the rest of her statement.
@Witty Witty you are projecting. you don't know op personally and they didn't even mention any gendered terms. if someone cheats on you then they don't want you. if a woman is cheating on you, she doesn't want you. if a man is cheating on you, he doesn't want you.
It’s probably more of loving the drama than the lover to be fair. Look at him! That’s what I find in these cases where women are fighting over a guy. The guy is a loser but for some reason the women keep fighting instead of giving up. They’re hype up on the drama and Adrenalin of fighting
Yes, open or not, it never ends well...during the entire time, the POS husband, to me, is insinuating that he’s so hot, that poor Heather is obsessed and wants to be with him forever and he never lead her on...he’s ego was so big cuz these women are fighting over him. I’m sorry but I just don’t see it...Heather was younger than him and most women at that age are vulnerable and when a man married or has a partner, gives special attention, unfortunately fall for their BS. Such a sad story story. If Heather’s body is found, I hope both them pay hard for what they did! I wanna believe and pray she’ll be found alive, but my heart and circumstantial evidence points otherwise. Allegedly...I don’t want someone to come legally after me...
@ Amelia Miller. I totally agree with you...it’s wrong. I had a single work friend that got involved with a married guy and it got ugly. It didn’t end in murder, but it was ugly. The married guys wife’s BFF was a cop and they both threatened and harassed her even after the affair was over. She didn’t wanna file a complaint with authorities because she was scared of them not believing her. None of us her friends knew she was “dating”, having this affair until the harassment was happening because she had to get work involved, she was afraid to go to work, leave her house. These relationships or affairs never end well and they’re wrong no matter what. Never mess with a married person or someone in a relationship. 100% agree with you.
Yes i honestly dont get people who do open relationship or poly relationship, it just sounds so messy and complicated and one person always ends up getting less in the relationship
Ladies please hear these words... NO man is worth this! It does not matter who the man is, what he is to you or what you have with him. If he is unfaithful and is running on around on you let him go!!!! He is not worth it!
And also- if they cheat WITH you they’ll cheat ON you... Basically they’re a LIAR and have shaky morals/ethics.... Quietly slip away and look for a good person or BE ALONE.
It’s bizarre seeing this story since I had friends in this exact situation. Dude was refrigeration tech, he and his wife said they had an open marriage but he would always screw women without his wife knowing. He went as far as buying a burner phone. I eventually told his wife bc he involved me in his deception, which I warned him to never involve me. His wife divorced him just in time to find out one of his side girls was pregnant. Then he married the side chick just to do the same thing again to her. I stopped our friendship after that. At that time he had 4 kids with 3 ex wives that he doesn’t see. I always thought he was joking when he said “I want to repopulate the world.” Perhaps that was the only honest statement that ever came out of his mouth.
That's fucked up. Told on him because he ''involved'' you, what a crap excuse. You sent the man's life into a spiral. No love for cheaters but certainly none for fire-seekers such as yourself.
Agreed, and then people are upset that they're not trusted anymore, like why would you be? You absolutely destroyed someones trust in you by doing something so awful to them, trust can't just be refueled up like a car and everything be fine to drive again, once trust is broken there's nothing you can do to ever repair that, it's gone.
It's like living in a house your whole life. You love that house. Soooooo many memories. And then one day a tornado comes and just smashes it into a billion tiny pieces. You can rebuild, but in the back of mind, you know this new house isn't the house you grew up in. That house is gone. But every now and then, you find a piece of that house, maybe the doorframe where your parents marked your growth every year, and that tears open the wound again. The hurt never goes away. It just sleeps, and wakes up every so often to pee on you, again and again and again and again. That's what a cheating spouse does to the other person. My ex-wife cheated with several men while I worked night shift at a prison. But her lil nighttime romances came to an end when I got a position working day shift Monday through Friday. It has been over 20 years since then, but every day, at some point, I'll think about what happened in October of 1999.
@@sergeantpeppers8858 I'm fighting tears, that explains it so well and just as deep and emotional too. The place/person you once loved is gone, now there's still love but it's not the same, nothing will ever be the same. That literally just broke my heart and I'm so sorry for what you went through, no one should ever go through that
The fact that Morgan, heathers sister, was able to feel sadness for Sidney and Tammy’s kids, just shows how much compassion heather and her family have. I don’t tell bad for Sidney or Tammy, but my heart breaks for their children 💔
Angry wife wanted heather gone permanently! I feel that the pregnancy test was bought and heather was forced to take it. She may have been killed because she was pregnant
My same thoughts. Heather told him she was pregnant that night, wife made him buy a test and when it was confirmed she went off like a firecracker. Just awful. 😕
@@laurieparis2203 I agree. Sounds like PLENTY of motive for an unstable & insanely jealous woman like Tammy. Cheating was one betrayal but to then learn that Heather was pregnant, would definitely send that woman into a murderous rage.
@@deniserossiter1059 A pregnancy resulting from an affair changes the dynamics of the primary relationship inalterably. There's no coming back from bringing a new life into the world, it's a lifelong emotional and financial commitment. Tammy realized at that point, that Heather was never going to go away, that she was part of their life now. I sympathize with the pain, betrayal, impotence that Tammy felt, as I would hate to be put in that situation. Just not the steps she took to deal with it. Some pretty scary stuff! 😕
Gah, me too. She was a cute girl too! She could've gotten with a dude who doesn't look like he considers using baby wipes as taking a shower. Fck he's gross and toolish looking!
I attended Tammy and Sidney's trials. There is video of everyone -Tammy, Sidney, Tammy's sister and her BF - not sure if the kids were around - detailing every inch of the car. After detailing it they threw the rags in a burn pile. There isn't any doubt for most that Heather was in their vehicle. Also, local speculation is that Tammy's father actually helped get rid of Heather's body. He died of a heart attack shortly after the kidnapping / murder. There is so much evidence that wasn't brought into the kidnapping trial but will be for a murder trial if / when Heather is found.
@@DubsTV93 looking for bugs from police seems unlikely to me, I would assume she was looking for blood splatter. At this point they were still cleaning up their mess and didnt have police looking at them until later.
Not open marriage was just for her to have boyfriends as soon as he found someone her jealousy got the best of her like a spoilt brat she can have everything he has to just be her puppet..boyfriends to make her feel better maybe so her delusional mind thinks she is 20 maybe...who knows what went on in her crazy mind..I think when she saw his text messages with heather she realised wasn't a sex thing that he prob really liked heather and was scared he would leave her...
Not... not always? Lol. I’m in an extremely open relationship with my girlfriend. We’re 100% honest with eachother. We see other people. We are incredibly happy together. Because we both have the same views and feelings about being in a relationship, and it’s what works for us. So yeah, it is possible. Lol. But he lied about his open marriage, which is super fucked up. This whole case is just a mess.
@@krystatinyy9652 You aren’t in love with her then. Mostly just “friends with benefits”. One day (if you are even capable) you will fall in love and then the two of you will actually cherish each other. Hope you are practicing safe sex. This is so sad and degrading for the both of you.
The narrator refers to her as someone who doesn't look like a person who would harrass another? I don't know why you needed to go out of your way to comment that.. so yeah
I haven’t finished the video but I think they set a trap for her, him saying they were going to get back together and to meet up so they could kill her.
I know this is trivial, but please note that unless special circumstances are explicitly stated, your boss cannot demand that you take a pregnancy test and actually can't ask you for the results of that test either.
Her boss was her friend and mentor. I saw her testimony in all three trials. She had to order new bra sizes for her restaurant uniform. She knew that she was having an affair with Sydney and gained a lot of weight so she asked Heather if she wanted to take a pregnancy test. Heather took the test in the presence of Jessica at the restaurant. They both saw the results saying error..heather probably did not get enough urine directly on the test.
@@spiritwalker9903 thank you, it sounded weird without context. I figured her boss was just close with her but I've never had a boss so involved with my life. Sad to hear the boss lost a friend. :(
It was CLEARLY out of concern for her, just as the rest of her co-workers, they ALL could see that she was going downhill, while she kept denying. So if she was pregnant, THEY WOULD ALL take a deep breath. It looks like she was in fact pregnant, but instead of opening up to her work circle (who cared deeply about her), she used it as a weapon to get at that crazy woman and TWEETED IT instead. Which led to the man buying a pregnancy test and calling her to meet him. It was obviously a set up by the wife, but Heather thought the man was interested and just wanted to make sure she was ''really'' pregnant.
Here’s something I’ve never understood. If a person finds out their significant other is cheating, why instantly get upset at the other person? They were probably lied to and manipulated just as much. There’s no reason to harass the other person unless the circumstances dictate it.
It's like the Jerry Springer show, where the wife goes after the girlfriend while the husband stands by, watching them fight over him. And usually he is nothing to fight for or over.
With all the speculation she may have been pregnant and the guy goes out and buys a pregnancy test at 3.00am in the morning in between calls to Heather. If that was the case this is motive for murder. She wasn't the cheater, the husband was. You're taking a huge risk sleeping with a married person as sadly these things happen and will continue too. I think they're both involved but that the wife was more of an instigator and had more involvement than the husband. I so hope they find more evidence on these people and keep them in jail for ever.
Basically all of then were morons , she knew he was married , didnt she ? She shouldn't never slept with that loser.... she def didn't deserve to be killed though.
Idk why but when I worked as an overnight cashier a lot of people come in late looking for pregnancy test. They ask for the bathroom some come out crying
“That girl is not normal” That sure is the pot calling the kettle black 😂 So tell me,Tammy--Would she be normal if she sent threatening texts and handcuffed her husband to a bed???
@@Alexz5040 They probably washed there hands there or maybe looking for blood spatter. I highly doubt they buried her on there property. Maybe they washed the weapon off in the fountain, cleaned it and she checked it later? Said he had a truck? He could have easily transported a body in the back and cleaned it out afterwards. If my wife wanted to kill someone, id hand her ass over to the police. I cant understand why he did that for her?
Just awful!! Poor Heather. The whole beginning of the “relationship” was a huge red flag. I was in a relationship 14yrs ago. He cheated on me and left with the other women. She would call me back to back all day. Send me messages, threatening me. Remember she was the other women. Finally they moved out of state. I’ve changed my number and moved. A few yrs ago she messaged me on fb asking if I’m talking to her man 🙄 I never responded and blocked her. Then a few wks ago she somehow got ahold of my Number and sent me a message about leaving her man alone 😑.. I thought I was done with them. I don’t understand why she is so paranoid and thinks I want him.
Give me her phone number if you have it so I can tell her to leave you alone! Seriously that kind of crazy needs to be checked. I am only half joking about phone # I know I know totally inappropriate. I just feel bad for people who get F*d with and are just minding their own business.
Heather didn't realize what she was getting into, but I don't think you should blame her age for it. People make mistakes ALL the time no matter what age they are. Unfortunately she ran into the path of a psycho. Most people do NOT get killed over this.
Absolutely. No one deserves to have their life ended over these things. That man took advantage of both women and they were both naive and blind to fall for it, even though they were way different in age. Sometimes the only way to learn is through mistakes. It's a shame Heather didn't get to learn from it and grow. And a shame that Brianna never wanted to
Please forgive the armchair detective work, but I just thought I'd give it a go. I believe Tammi read Heather's Tweets and completely lost her mind thinking Heather was pregnant. Judging by the fact that she feared losing her husband - and Heather having his child could make that a possibility - I believe she planned on forcing Heather to take the pregnancy test and when it came back as confirmed, she killed her. This would explain why he bought the pregnancy test and lured Heather out there with Tammi in the truck under the guise of re-uniting with Heather. Given that Tammi had already imprisoned her husband once before I would not be surprised if she had already planned out how to kidnap Heather. This would account for the short time frame the truck was out there: if Heather had been rendered unconscious by some means and kidnapped and taken elsewhere. I believe Tammi would have made Heather take the test, punished her the way she felt Heather deserved and then killed her and buried her in the unknown location. Sorry if that was very graphic or confusing. I'm autistic and I struggle with wording so I edited it a lot.
Good theory. It sounds like the most plausible course of events. This is a sad case. Unfortunately for her family, I don't think Heather will ever be found.
yes and im sure her working at the same place as the husband did, while co-workers noticing she was getting heavier and associating it to being pregnant and already knew of the affair she was having. Would not suprise me if they talked about this at work, which eventually got back to the husband and wife, instigating the event you have already outlined
It’s crazy seeing someone you personally knew on a random UA-cam suggestion, especially a documentary about her disappearance. My heart drops every time I run across this. Myrtle Beach thanks you for this. ❤️ #justiceforheather
Did she always go after ugly men? It’s funny how women feel enlightened by not going after looks. It just makes you look like a ret**d not dating someone who you’re physically attracted to. She brought all of this on herself. She gets no sympathy from me.
Sydney was a week man. He wanted Heather but was easily manipulated by his wife. Love at first sight is a power drug, you need a friend to investigate this new man. You should never get involved with a married man, it’s morally wrong. How many stories like this do you need to see. Stay save out there. ❤️❤️❤️
He was weak , I wonder if Tammy wore the pants in that relationship? Heather was young, we don't know if maybe she would have learned from that mistake. Also, women that are pregnant and find themselves murdered, the father of the child is usually involved.
Dude I'm not as old as Sydney and Heather (bless her poor sweet heart) looks so very young to me. I mean what in the actual F 38 years old actually interested in a 20 year old EW! No disrespect only love for Heather. But EW EW GUYS CAN BE SO GROSS.
"I look 20" says the gremlin. Also "We have an open marriage" and then proceeded to harass her husbands girlfriend and talks about how he cheated?? Like what.
this right here. Yet there's way too many people in these comments blaming the murder victim. As if married men don't prey on young women on purpose, as if they make it clear that they're married and never lie about that. This dude told her he was in an open marriage, she's not at fault for continuing it. People need to start finally blaming the person who did the crime, not the victim. The "don't fuck married men, hyuck!" comments are not the wise wisdom dumbass people think it is.
@@uttersolitude I think they got wind somehow that Heather may be pregnant, I think that is why he called her and said he wanted to work things out, then invited her to meet him, went back to his place, took the test, prob positive, Heather got her head smashed near on t1he statue, which is why Tammy was searching for blood there.Then they buried her somewhere. RIP Heather
Yeah, that was the dumbest thing she could've said to a detective. Especially w/ her text history. Did she think they really wouldn't dive any deeper & find out the truth?
Poor Heather, she never got a chance to truly live. And not to be cliche, but why him? Let this be a lesson to women to be more picky in choosing partners.
As someone still in their early 20s, this made me feel grateful that im still single and got time to pick the right person compare to a lot of people my age moving quickly in their relationship, experimenting with things and having kids
@@ajay-naz6996 As you _intelligently_ mentioned above, as just one lesson in choosing a wife, all men should pay careful attention and when coming across a woman matching anything close to _Tammy_ ....do this..... 🏃♂️🏃🏻♂️🏃🏼♂️🏃🏽♂️🏃🏽♂️🏃🏾♂️🏃🏿♂️❗
I really don't understand jurors sometimes. It's like, every little detail points toward foul play. That girl was harassed, lured, and murdered in cold blood. There are phone records, text messages, videos, and very non-consistent storylines by both of them. I just pray that Heather gets the justice she deserves and that the police find some groundbreaking evidence that will put these monsters behind bars for the rest of their lives. Rest easy princess.
@@_OHEN Sidney had his trial and it came back as a hung jury. They had a retrial and he was ultimately convicted of 30 years. He is currently incarcerated at Lee Correctional Facility in South Carolina. This is a very notorious dangerous maximum security prison. There was a major prison riot there just a few years back. Numerous prisoners were murdered viciously. It is right where he deserves to be. Sidney's wife was bat shit crazy and she indeed would handcuff Sidney to the bed so he would not go cheat on her with Heather. Both Sidney and Tammy have never confessed or told where Heather's remains are. Her poor family deserves that closure!
I'm had just moved out of the Carolina Forest area on River Oaks a few months before she disappeared. I have lived in Horry County for 23 years and have lived in and worked in Myrtle Beach. I remember when this was everywhere. I'm glad this case is getting the attention it deserves.
Getting involved with a person who's married is plain gross! Tammy obviously has some sort of fun-house mirrors, if she thinks she looks 20. I give the detective alot of credit for keeping a straight face. 😲
Heather might've not made a great decision in joining this marriage more or less but she didn't know it wasn't monogamous. Please don't victim blame her and respect that she was a young woman with high emotions who maybe, just maybe, realized in a panic that she was pregnant with someone else's child.
Tammy is the type to never tell where they put the body. She likes having that control in the situation and probably feels like she has a one up on the girl. I bet if this girl wasn’t so attractive, making her feel like she could actually lose him to her, it wouldn’t have gone that far.
I would never as a wife force my husband to stop cheating if that's what he chooses then he can count me out. Heather was definitely murdered by them and it's sad asf
Tammy claims that she has no love for her husband after finding out he cheated, yet she hand cuffs him to the bed, followed him to and from work and takes his phone. A rational person would let their cheating husband dig his own grave and divorce him, if truly there was no love.
My daughter worked with Heather. My son and daughter went to school with her and Heather came to my house to hang out. Sidney and Tammy lived literally a minute from me and Peachtree was also right by my house. Everyone has gone to the landing for everything from fishing, boating, kayaking or to just drink some beer, smoke some weed and stare at the water. The memorial shows just how loved Heather was. There is so much not said in this story and hopefully it will update. They both deserve to sit in jail. Tammy's mother was getting all sorts of harassment and Tammy's father died of a massive heart attack not long after Tammy went to jail. Some say her father also helped get rid of Heather's body. He had a yard work business and it's been speculated that Heather was put in the wood chipper and then she was spread all over the place from SC to Florida and California. A grown ass man and woman killing a child is just wrong.
Wow!!! Well, whatever they did, they made sure she wasn't found. So it's reasonable to believe they had help. The video of them cleaning out their truck after her disappearance is also damning. And that bizarre video of Tammy w/ a mirror searching their property? Strange. His lies about buying a pregnancy test that very same night for his wife? Come on. That’s the motive. I hope Heather’s family can someday get the closure they need, though it will never bring her back. I can't imagine the pain they live with. It's such a sad story. Take care.
Correction: Tammy, when interrogated by the police, said that she "was (as in, used to be) 20 yrs old". Not that she "looks" 20.... The narrator, unfortunately, stated it wrong.
So his alibi is: he and his wife were together the whole time, first at home, being intimate, she's drinking wine, then they go to one gas station where he gets gas, a second gas station where he parks across the street so Tammy can't see him go use the payphone to call Heather, who hasn't been harassing him, to tell her to stop harassing him, she just thinks he's going in the store for something, then he goes to another store for a home pregnancy test, because they want to have a baby, nvmnd she's in her 40's, drinking wine, toxic marriage, then they go home to be intimate again, all at 3am...sounds legit
I swear I thought I was the only one thinking this. Cheating and betraying your spouses trust makes most people a special kind of crazy especially if your spouse knocks up the chick.
"I look 20..." no, no honey, you do not look 20, not even close. "I don't care if he sleeps with 100 people"...and she's calling Heather "not right". Dang....this is messed up.
So he was "shot at" and his children were getting threatened online. I condone neither of those things but must point out that none of that would've been happening if it weren't for you stepping outside of your marriage and you and your wife's subsequent crime-ing, Sport.
If Tammy got an emotional reaction when seeing Heathers sister, is it possible somehow Lawyers/Law Enforcement could use Heathers sister to try and get a confession out of Tammy? If Tammy has an emotional reaction when just seeing Heathers sister it seems like that should be a point of interest?
This could have been prevented if people would just freaking split the hell up if you don't trust your partner. Also don't cheat on your partner or jump into a relationship with someone that's with someone. It never ends well.
The woman doesn’t seem sane enough to just split. This goes behind a cheating husband and a mad wife. She’s an obsessive psycho and someone else in her life would’ve ended up dead sooner or later if it hadn’t been Heather.
I am a true crime fanatic and I have seen a lot of YT channels cover the Heather Elvis case. Tons. HOWEVER, you gave some info that I haven't heard before and that is what keeps me coming back to you guys. You do your research and it shows. That makes me keep coming back to you guys. Excellent job once again. Thx for covering the true crime cases that you do. Everyone deserves to have their story heard.
What an amazingly affective narrator. Blessed be, goodness what a voice, approach and ride on the story. Clearly a forensic files fan. You are so fantastic at what you do. This can't be learned or taught.
I’ve seen this story on so many channels on UA-cam from That Chapter to Trace Evidence Podcast and that couple is guilty as sin. For such a beautiful girl it’s a shame she fell for such a deadbeat. She didn’t deserve to die. 💔
@@TheDramacist That's messed up. She bought into the "open relationship" bs that a lot of cheaters like to use. She was young, naive and made a bad decision. She didn't deserve to be harassed and murdered because of it.
@@TheDramacist really? did you not hear where they said they had an open relationship? where he told her his wife didn't care. so you think killing her is the answer?
Cheaters this days🤦🤦 i don't know why they need to cheat. Why not end the relationship before having another relationship to avoid hurting someones feeling. There's just so many evil lurking the world this days. Tempting those people who has a little of Gods faith.
So, you think if he told Tammy that he did not love her, this would not hurt her feelings? Crazy insecure mediocre possesive people always react badly. They can't take a no. They can't take the truth. Their reactions are so over exagerated many choose to lie to them. How sad to be thus pathetic.
So, you think if he told Tammy that he did not love her, this would not hurt her feelings? Crazy insecure mediocre possesive people always react badly. They can't take a no. They can take the truth. Their reactions are so over exagerated many choose to lie to them. How sad to be thus pathetic.
My kids dad cheated on me for 13 years with a prostitute. He made up lies about me in court to take my kids as I was taken off my mother as a baby and she went jail for gbh to me I was adopted eventually but me and my brother were messed up because of what happened. I went through a bad time and took drugs but got clean when pregnant but as he was a police informant and had no police record but I did he won. I am in pain every day as because I wouldn’t get back with him he beat me in front of my 6 year old boy. He locked me in so only way out was window. He pushed me and I broke both bones in my leg and my ankle was smashed to pieces. I have a metal frame on my leg now. That prostitute janine sallis has text me telling me to leave etc that her and my kids dad were going to be together. I don’t understand why people cheat. I have left my kids dad and they are both to blame when they both know the situation. I hate cheats. If a guy cheats leave as he won’t stop or change. If he loved you he wouldn’t do it.
It's not Christian for a married father to divorce his wife to pursue a young woman. - The children need a father - The wife needs a husband - The young woman should pursue a man within her age range so that she can spend as much of her time with him, and so can her children (if an old man with children of his own wants more children in the first place) Seemed like the husband couldn't stand up for himself, which left a power vacuum that Tammy had to fill in her own way.
I believe tammy misspoke or the recording isnt clear enough. She said straight after that "she wasnt that kind of girl" and "I had friends". Both of these are past tense references
I have zero doubts that Sidney was manipulated into luring Heather to the docks. I mean, he did allow himself to be manipulated to put that mad-woman's name on his stomach. He shouldn't get any less time, or rather, death penalty than his crazy wife.
"I kept calling Heather repeatedly to tell her to leave me alone, officer. Honest! This was in-between bouts of intense lovemaking with my wife, whom I am devoted to. We're trying for a baby, nevermind that she looks 55. Honest!" How detectives can listen to this garbage without telling people like Sydney to stfu is beyond me.
It would still hurt, just not as bad as getting your heart completely ripped out of your body and then thrown away like a piece of trash. I have first hand knowledge of that feeling.
i’m a little surprised the young girl didn’t block this woman’s number after having been sent home for receiving so many calls during work or contact police
I think they definitely planned together to lure Heather into a trap. That's why they parked _across the street_ from the gas station at which Sidney called her from a payphone & got gas at a different station - they didn't want to show up on surveillance footage. Heather then got in the truck, which is why they were cleaning it out the next day. Maybe Tammy popped up from behind her with a cord or something right then, but that doesn't explain the fountain. The fountain means either Heather was there at their house & touched or bled on it, OR that 1 or both of them cleaned their hands off in it. If they took her back to their house, it was either forced or under the guise of "let's all end the question of your pregnancy once & for all & we'll all work together to deal with the results". I think they went with the latter based on his having bought a celebratory cigar in addition to the pregnancy test, to make Heather think they were all going to take it as good news & celebrate it if positive, & if negative they'd all just go their separate ways. Heather went in the bathroom, the test came back positive, Tammy murdered her, & they both disposed of the body together, possibly at/near the dock. Just my opinion.
Instead of "Why you should NEVER cheat with a married man", how about title it, "Why you should NEVER be a perv and cheat on your wife with a young girl who doesn't know any better"? I simply cannot believe the victim blaming that goes on with this case. It's atrocious. She was practically a child, and HE should have known better.
It’s not victim blaming. There are so many creeps like him in the world and even though it should be obvious, it seems they still act on impulses and are selfish pricks. We gotta warn young girls about creeps like these, they may seem genuine and charming and try to entangle you with promises but they are pervs who only care about their own pleasures.
@@LunaTheWise Her entire case is filled with victim blaming! I can't tell you the number of times I've seen her being called a shut or a whore, and/or people straight up blaming her for her own murder. It's absolutely disgusting!
Well she knew she was going after a married man. Everyone knows how wrong it is to have an affair but she still went along with it. It's not victim blaming. She knew what she was doing and has to be held accountable for that.
@@af98 Oh, bite me! Having an affair does not make it okay for someone to be murdered! Once again, the victim blaming here is atrocious. She was a young woman just starting her life, and this guy was a dirt bag perv that thought with his dick instead of his head, and took advantage of her. HE was the one that should have stayed faithful to HIS WIFE, considering HE was the one that was MARRIED! You need to freaking check yourself. I can't even deal with this it makes me so fuk!ng mad.
She probably just thought that this was no big deal, her and Sidney were in love and THEY were going to be an exclusive couple and that Tammi would stop being a crazy ex after awhile and go away eventually. When you're young and naive you can get blinded by love and miss the obvious red flags. (Older people too obviously, but most of us have the "dumb relationship regret" moment when we're younger)
U should never cheat ever if your not happy with your other half then bloody live go get lost . Don't f around with others when your married that's just wrong I hate cheaters there the worst
I doubt she looked 20 when she was actually 20!!!! These people are guilty as sin and should rot in jail! He went after a younger girl and toyed with her head and wifey was angry!!!
Probably the girl toyed with the head of a weak man with a mad mate but you don't kill a KITTEN for being frisky and playful unless youre evillll and need to pay. !
The wife is disgusting. Handle it like a real woman and just leave him for cheating. I pray Heather is in heaven just soaring with wings. Happy as ever. And that God will bless her family with the discovery of her body and that Gods Peace surrounds them. So tragic and very unnecessary of this grown woman 💔.
@@ginomartell4237 let people be. Their intention is kindness and empathy. Don't make us, agnostic or atheist, look like an arrogant douche by mocking how others handle their sadness. When people pray, that's how they cope. It won't hurt other people. Be humble, and understanding
I went to school with Heather Elvis and was in class with her brother. She was a very sweet girl, and this murder shocked our community. I'll never know why she was messing around with Sidney Moorer. I remember different people trying to get arrested when Tammy was in jail so they could maybe have an opportunity to put hands on her. Tammy is a complete psychopath. I remember when Heather posted on FB "Yea, I'm a homewrecker as in I will literally swing a wrecking ball through your home." I was about to reach out, but I assumed it was just a funny post. It's still so crazy to me. Glad EWU covered this.
I'm 40 years old, and if there's one thing I've learned over the course of my life, it's that the whole "open relationship" thing is a complete goddamn lie. It doesn't work, even if the people involved truly believe in it, it always falls apart or leads to some heavy conflict and drama, and people should stay away from anyone who claims to be in one.
Agreed! But in this case, I don't think these people had an open relationship to begin with. Sydney lied to Heather about it to get in her pants. And Tammy lied to the police about it, thinking they wouldn't be investigated. She was wrong.
My fiance's brother is in an open relationship with his wife and girlfriend. Apparently their marriage wasn't going so well, so they went to couples counseling. He opened up about wanting an open marriage, to which his wife agreed to make him happy. Apparently it's actually improved the marriage. I met his girlfriend, who is really smart and sweet. If it works for them, more power to them. I'm not one to judge. I could never do it, but I know some people enjoy being poly, which is fine.
The Heather Elvis story never fails to make me sad. She deserved so much more than what life gave her. Edit: Heather was definitely wrong for going after a married man. That’s never excusable, and is something no one should ever do. But, I still feel sympathy for her, as she was young, and no one should ever lose their life over something like this. An older, married man shouldn’t have been reciprocating her advances.
I mean to be fair though, she did make a terrible decision by going after a married man to begin with. It’s not all her fault, but she does share some of the blame.
It’s really sad (and I hope these people go to prison for the rest of their lives), but her tale is a cautionary one... there was nothing about that man that said “good boyfriend material”. He wasn’t even attractive. What was she thinking? What a terrible decision to make, even if it didn’t end up taking her life. The dude is straight-up gross
I cannot fathom, how on earth heather got involved with that creep, she continued seeing him after found out he was still married to that lunatic woman. Sadly she made poor judgments with tragic consequences.
Everyone here saying, getting a divorce would've avoid this but considering how crazy the wife is, it wouldn't made a difference. Also why such a beautiful women went after him? Both women baffled me
@Teena Courtney meh, that’s kinda how I would want a woman to act if their “faithful” husband was having an affair. Women gotta protect what’s theirs. The abuse is a bit much though
@@carlimcelrath1901 Heather was NOT married, Sydney was. Why do women get called home wrecking hoes? I just don't get it? Men get away with worst behaviour, NO CONSEQUENCES! Wtf?
Maybe Tammy had Sidney lure Heather into meeting him at the landing (by telling her he wanted to get back with her), then he invited her into his vehicle where she left her car behind. He took Heather to his and Tammy's home and they killed her in their yard near the fountain and Tammy was inspecting it to be sure there were no blood stains? Then they took Heather's body into their truck and dumped her somewhere. It seems odd that they would kill someone in their yard though, I just don't understand why Tammy would be inspecting the fountain so closely unless she was worried there might be evidence on it.
Ithink that's exactly what happened! Think about it, as a young woman, pregnant with his baby, and he calls saying, "let's be together." The calls line up with her car being how it was found. I think she went there, got into his truck, he drove her to his house, the crazy wife attacked... But pretty much the same as you. 🙃
This is a local tragedy that begun shortly after I moved to the area. I never knew Heather or the family, although I did meet the father, Terry. There were no words to say to soothe his pain, which is quite understandable. A 20 year old woman looking to embark on a career, meet a man to fall in love with and have her happily ever after, was just a youthful fantasy. The crazy woman was Tammy, who admitted in one of her writings that she used to sleep with rock stars when they toured. She lies like Amber Heard and I'm so happy she's not there to raise her children, so they have a chance at life. This is an all around tragedy for this beautiful family. I pray for the Elvis family every day.
I feel bad that this happened. However at 20 you’re an adult. They’re trying to paint this picture as though she was innocent in all of this. All parties were absolutely wrong
yeah she looks 20.. 20 minutes from turning 60
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Good one, 😆
Lmao!!!! I’ve got to remember that one!!!
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The second she said she looks 20 I knew she was guilty. Anyone that can lie to herself like that is capable of anything.
Lol!
Right?! I had to rewind it to make sure I heard it right. Because I thought there’s no way she said that. I thought she must’ve said “I’ve been 20”
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Lol right
“I look 20” shouldve arrested her right then and there for lying to a detective during an open investigation
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I'm amazed somebody could be that delisional, she looks at least 45, and thats being generous.
YES!! That ridiculous lie was a straight up crime then like the first 10 seconds of her speaking 😂
She said she looks 20, deserves extra 5 years for such falsehood
I’m weak 😂😂
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20 more years, my husband said
the wife looked almost 60 -- what the hell was the guy doing married to his "mother?" --- ended up being the first of many bad choices....
When you resort to handcuffing your husband to the bed so he won't cheat, it's time to call it a day. 🙄
Foolish man
AMEN!!!! ( i actually just made the same comment LOL!!)
Ain't that the truth
Yea... nothing says true love like a good forced handcuffing
FACTS
Here in the UK a recent change in the law says if you don't reveal where you've disposed of a body, you don't get out of jail.
Most convicted killers aren’t getting out regardless. That’s how it should work if they tell or not.
But they still maintained their innocence, revealing where the body was would be confession, no?
@@NessieNice I think the choice is reveal the body and you get out after a life sentence, don't and you stay in jail.
As much as I believe these people are guilty and that they should both get the chair, that is a very dangerous law to pass because it could just as easily end up putting somebody innocent behind bars.
Everybody who always complains about the US legal system being too lenient, don’t understand that there is a good reason for it. That’s why here, no body=no sentence .
There's a couple in California City, USA, that is being charged with the murders of 2 little boy's they adopted because nobody has seen them in over a year. There's no bodies, but there's definitely murder charges
How the detective didn’t burst out laughing when she said she looked 20 is beyond me. I would’ve lost it. She looks 50 and she knows it.
Maybe 65
totally delusions
I know 75 year olds better
Reasons why I can't be a detective. It's like I recently found out why I can't work in a fish market. I can’t stay serious. I see a gutted fish, my first thought is to make a puppet out of it. I head bs like this, I bust a gut laughing. I can’t do serious or professional lol
If i was the detective. I'd call for a break and laugh my ass out in the comfort room.
“She doesn’t seem like the type to endlessly harass a young girl” are you kidding me? Look at her face 😂😂
Right, she is exactly the type!
Bulldog face. Its the ugly ones that are psycho
*by ugly I mean inside and out. I've met beautiful people with horrible attitudes that turned them ugly.. .
She's got those crazy eyes. Lol
thats what I said. ive seen people like her way too much but im hoping not all of them are stupid enough to murder or lie to themself so much that they say "i look 20" to someone when they look 60 + easily
Imagine fighting this hard, to the point of murder, all for a man who doesn't even want you.
Exactly
Unfortunately she made it up in her delusional mind that she couldn’t live without him instead of just cutting him loose. If she had been more rational, she would have said, “If you really want to be with her so badly then go-be with her.” Instead she turned into a possessive psycho (although I have my suspicions see always has been and that’s partly the reason Sidney cheating on her in the first place), and a girl is dead because of her.
@@3alaiyer Tammy literally was obsessed with heather because of her husband no longer wanting the marriage. the husband was manipulated and a coward but literally tammy wanted to control him and keep him in her life. she literally did fight for him dude, she was obsessed with keeping him in her life that it drove her to stalking and murder.
@@kaijuteeth I feel bad for him tbh, he’s obviously a victim of domestic abuse and no one is acknowledging that because he’s a man.
@@gwendolyn2442 big agree !!! like her husband had no reason to fight for her considering he was a victim of abuse and saw an affair as an out or something along those lines, hes not innocent but he DEFINITELY is a victim of abuse and it sucks no one is talking about it
I feel like Heather taking that pregnancy test sealed her fate. Once they all saw it was positive all hell broke loose. All over a worthless guy who couldn't control his own life
I so agree.
His own life or wife?
@@looking4therealrepairmanjack "Happy wife, happy life" in his case: Wife = Life
I feel like his wife made him buy the pregnancy test. Kidnapped heather and made her take the test and when it said positive the wife lost her shit and killed her.
He couldn't control his wicked desires either.
We all need a Briana in our lives. “Heather.. really girl... THAT’S what you wanna go after?”
YESSSSS I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS
yeah but we don't know what kind of losers Briana hooks up with. Maybe Heather's response was "hey at least this old man has a job".
@@Dragonette666 lmfao???? She probably meant he was a middle aged man WHO WAS MARRIED WITH CHILDREN. Not worth any trouble. Also, a guy having a job doesn’t make him a good person. You can date a guy with no job and so long as he isn’t mistreating you or , you know, cheating on his wife and calling you worthless when trying to act like the innocent one who did nothing wrong.
@V Toxica Or You life
Exactly what I was thinking.
Props to the detective that didn't burst out in laughter immediately when that old lady said she looks 20.
I know right 😂 they said she's in her forties, she looks like she's in her upper 50s. She also said she's partied with a lot of bands. She looks used up.
Context of what else she said dude, she said I lived 20. Use your head dumby
“Old lady” 😂😂😂
if she look 20, I look 2.
And "she doesn't look like someone who would harass somebody" ? Ahhh yes she does.
She looks EXACTLY like she would do it
She looks crazy!
I feel insulted that she thinks she looks as young as me (i turned 20 4 months ago)
@@ajhaley177 exactly. Her look screams " I AM CRAZY"
Yaaass!! I said the same thing lol
"I don't care, he could sleep with 100 people and I wouldn't care"
the 1,000s of texts that suggest she does, in fact, care: okay my turn
Note to the cheaters out there...if they do it with you then they'll do it to you.
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Amen
The cheater will even admit to being unable to commit and said "I will just cheat on you too". People believe others when they show you who they are, the sick need help, not more sex and more children.
YYYYYEEEEESSSS! And every time they get away with it!! .. they get better @ hiding in evidence..
But this young girls need to be educated on abuse/red flags est... too many of them are disappearing😢
“How you get them is how you loose them” 💯
Has people NEVERRRR heard of a block button??? I block ANYONE I protect my energy and if necessary I’ll change my number! I’m definitely NOT arguing with a 72 year old woman about her 64 year old husband 😂 And I’m definitely not involving myself with a married man! Even tho I know I can protect myself I’m still smart enough not to upset a woman that looks like she sprinkles Meth on her bagels in the morning 😂😭😂
On herrrr bagelssssssssss 🤭😮💨😭😭😭😭😭
This is the best statement to live by.
She thinks she looks 20? Try 50.
@Elijah Earl agreed😁
Yeah... looks 20 years older than her actual age ffs....
Ugly dragon troll she is 🤮
Came here to say this 😂
I thought I heard wrongly. 20??? Unbelievable how deluded she is!
I’m 50- and there’s no delusions here- nothing on me would pass for 20 except my sense of humor 😂
He bought the pregnancy test to lure her in for a meet up. Heather was frantically calling him because she wants to make sure they are still good to meet up for such an important conversation. She had no idea Tammy was with him. She shows up and is forced to take the pregnancy test in front of both of them and it comes out positive so Tammy loses her sh*t. Tammy killed Heather but Sidney was an accessory to the crime.
Exactly to a T how I played it out in my head also
i doubt she took that test... Tammy was forcing Sydney as her puppet. Tammy had threaten Heather's life so many times at that point. it was going to happen dispite any test. if you ask me i think both of them should be on death row.
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!!!! I think if she wasn't pregnant, she would still be here today! Tammy was THAT jealous!!
@@CALIGIRL702I doubt it....Tammy was obsessed with her and stalking her. younger, was younger, smart, beautiful. She still would have done it just to destroy her because she was jealous
He’s not an accessory give me a break he’s just guilty, if not more, even if he didn’t stab her or whatever… he is a POS biotch of a “man” … they’re both garbage
Tammy: Look, I look 20
Arrested Development Narrator: That wasn't true.
Only when she looks in her magic mirror.
When she's been drinking
More like "Arrested Development Narrator - No 20 year old woman looks like that".
She definitely don’t look 20 in no way
@@kbautista6364 when everyone's been drinking 😆
How that cop kept a straight face when this lady says "I look 20" is incredible.
I feel like he set that girl up for his wife to kill her because that was the only way the psycho was going to let it go
If only he had of reported his wife Tammy for her over the top behaviours or something. Before it became out of hand .
I was thinking the exact same thing! She couldn't handle the fact that her husband was able to get someone as young and as beautiful as her and she couldn't let it go it drove her nuts knowing he could go back to her.
@Melinda Bloomington8! truth!!! I always put myself in that other person's shoes and wonder how they'd feel and I couldn't help but to feel her wrath and jealousy towards that beautiful young girl... Sounds crazy right! But I'm not ...I swear!!! 😂
Why don't we blame Tammy for her behavior. Yes he is just as at fault and should be charged accordingly. But this woman clearly abused him and controlled every aspect of this. If it was reversed and he did all this to Tammy y'all would be calling spousal abuse.
@@rebeccamarrujo3849 no your crazy I swear
She was “ infatuated “ with THAT.
*I don’t understand*
Yeah. Gross! 🤢🤮
From her Twitter bio she's a Deadhead and that tends to be the type of guys they go after
Child's brain
Right?!?
Yeah she was infatuated with THAT THANG
UGH!!! this married couple looks more like a mother and son than a husband and wife....
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So?
they look 5 maybe 10 years apart she's probably a heavy drinker or smoker reason why she looks kinda old
In person Sidney doesn't look this young. When we were younger Tammy always looked older than us though. Tammy and I hung out and were friends in middle and high school. She had a wild side and we DID have wild friends but Tammy was usually the sweet, level headed one of our group. As we got older we also kept in touch through Facebook as our kids were growing.
@@tjeym8897 - they both smoke but yes, she is a heavy smoker.
I am of the mindset that Tammy said "I WAS twenty".... meaning when she was that age she was not as wild as Heather (said in an attempt to demonize the younger girl and make herself seem more "innocent and wholesome"). She was speaking very fast and I can understand how people can be mistaken but her saying she "looked" twenty makes absolutely NO sense in the context of the rest of her statement.
Exactly
That makes sense
Yeah that's what I thought too
Really, there is no need to defend a murderer. Lol. Let us joke about her. Its cathartic.
Wow. I feel so dumb. This makes so much more sense.
It’s NEVER worth fighting over a lover, ever. Have some dignity 🤦🏻♀️
@Witty Witty you are projecting. you don't know op personally and they didn't even mention any gendered terms. if someone cheats on you then they don't want you. if a woman is cheating on you, she doesn't want you. if a man is cheating on you, he doesn't want you.
It’s probably more of loving the drama than the lover to be fair. Look at him! That’s what I find in these cases where women are fighting over a guy. The guy is a loser but for some reason the women keep fighting instead of giving up. They’re hype up on the drama and Adrenalin of fighting
Let alone THAT dude… woof 🤢
Moral of this story make damn sure the person you are perusing is single with no doubt. Dont buy that open relationship crap.
Yes, open or not, it never ends well...during the entire time, the POS husband, to me, is insinuating that he’s so hot, that poor Heather is obsessed and wants to be with him forever and he never lead her on...he’s ego was so big cuz these women are fighting over him. I’m sorry but I just don’t see it...Heather was younger than him and most women at that age are vulnerable and when a man married or has a partner, gives special attention, unfortunately fall for their BS. Such a sad story story. If Heather’s body is found, I hope both them pay hard for what they did! I wanna believe and pray she’ll be found alive, but my heart and circumstantial evidence points otherwise. Allegedly...I don’t want someone to come legally after me...
@ Amelia Miller. I totally agree with you...it’s wrong. I had a single work friend that got involved with a married guy and it got ugly. It didn’t end in murder, but it was ugly. The married guys wife’s BFF was a cop and they both threatened and harassed her even after the affair was over. She didn’t wanna file a complaint with authorities because she was scared of them not believing her. None of us her friends knew she was “dating”, having this affair until the harassment was happening because she had to get work involved, she was afraid to go to work, leave her house. These relationships or affairs never end well and they’re wrong no matter what. Never mess with a married person or someone in a relationship. 100% agree with you.
she KNEW he was married and DIDN"T CARE
Yes i honestly dont get people who do open relationship or poly relationship, it just sounds so messy and complicated and one person always ends up getting less in the relationship
@carli and I don’t either sweetie I’m coming after your man try me bitch you’ll be the heather in that situation. ;)
Ladies please hear these words... NO man is worth this! It does not matter who the man is, what he is to you or what you have with him. If he is unfaithful and is running on around on you let him go!!!! He is not worth it!
And also- if they cheat WITH you they’ll cheat ON you...
Basically they’re a LIAR and have shaky morals/ethics....
Quietly slip away and look for a good person or BE ALONE.
Yep 👏
And to the men, no woman is worth all this..
All opinions.
As a man, I approve of this message.
It’s bizarre seeing this story since I had friends in this exact situation. Dude was refrigeration tech, he and his wife said they had an open marriage but he would always screw women without his wife knowing. He went as far as buying a burner phone. I eventually told his wife bc he involved me in his deception, which I warned him to never involve me. His wife divorced him just in time to find out one of his side girls was pregnant. Then he married the side chick just to do the same thing again to her. I stopped our friendship after that. At that time he had 4 kids with 3 ex wives that he doesn’t see. I always thought he was joking when he said “I want to repopulate the world.” Perhaps that was the only honest statement that ever came out of his mouth.
If it was a open marriage then why the guy has to buy a burner phone, I thought open marriage is that both can screw anyone they like ?
You did the right thing
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That's fucked up. Told on him because he ''involved'' you, what a crap excuse. You sent the man's life into a spiral. No love for cheaters but certainly none for fire-seekers such as yourself.
What a nasty guy. Jeez.
Repopulate, huh? I hope that he is at least a proper father.
Even Sidney's ponytail quickly left him
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lmao, marry me
I can see why Sydney cheated on his great grandma with Heather.
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Can’t stop thinking about “Throw Momma from the Train”.
Ahahahahahah
A real man breaks up before he cheats.
Then it isn’t cheating…and that’s what makes it so thrilling
Never ever cheat... it destroys people. I know this personally, and also saw what it did to my dad too
Agreed, and then people are upset that they're not trusted anymore, like why would you be? You absolutely destroyed someones trust in you by doing something so awful to them, trust can't just be refueled up like a car and everything be fine to drive again, once trust is broken there's nothing you can do to ever repair that, it's gone.
@@GabrielleHayes1921 Ikr?!
You can't unring that bell! 🛎
@smelly Cat and even if it is, it still needs mowed
It's like living in a house your whole life. You love that house. Soooooo many memories. And then one day a tornado comes and just smashes it into a billion tiny pieces.
You can rebuild, but in the back of mind, you know this new house isn't the house you grew up in. That house is gone. But every now and then, you find a piece of that house, maybe the doorframe where your parents marked your growth every year, and that tears open the wound again. The hurt never goes away. It just sleeps, and wakes up every so often to pee on you, again and again and again and again.
That's what a cheating spouse does to the other person. My ex-wife cheated with several men while I worked night shift at a prison. But her lil nighttime romances came to an end when I got a position working day shift Monday through Friday.
It has been over 20 years since then, but every day, at some point, I'll think about what happened in October of 1999.
@@sergeantpeppers8858 I'm fighting tears, that explains it so well and just as deep and emotional too.
The place/person you once loved is gone, now there's still love but it's not the same, nothing will ever be the same. That literally just broke my heart and I'm so sorry for what you went through, no one should ever go through that
The fact that Morgan, heathers sister, was able to feel sadness for Sidney and Tammy’s kids, just shows how much compassion heather and her family have. I don’t tell bad for Sidney or Tammy, but my heart breaks for their children 💔
Angry wife wanted heather gone permanently! I feel that the pregnancy test was bought and heather was forced to take it. She may have been killed because she was pregnant
My same thoughts. Heather told him she was pregnant that night, wife made him buy a test and when it was confirmed she went off like a firecracker. Just awful. 😕
Peroid reminds me of a movie I've seen . With Patrick Stewart
Yeees I thought the same
@@laurieparis2203 I agree. Sounds like PLENTY of motive for an unstable & insanely jealous woman like Tammy. Cheating was one betrayal but to then learn that Heather was pregnant, would definitely send that woman into a murderous rage.
@@deniserossiter1059 A pregnancy resulting from an affair changes the dynamics of the primary relationship inalterably. There's no coming back from bringing a new life into the world, it's a lifelong emotional and financial commitment. Tammy realized at that point, that Heather was never going to go away, that she was part of their life now. I sympathize with the pain, betrayal, impotence that Tammy felt, as I would hate to be put in that situation. Just not the steps she took to deal with it. Some pretty scary stuff! 😕
I can’t figure out why she was attracted to such a troll
Gah, me too. She was a cute girl too! She could've gotten with a dude who doesn't look like he considers using baby wipes as taking a shower. Fck he's gross and toolish looking!
I hear that!! He is DISGUSTING & he definitely looks like the type to bathe in the sink of a truck stop!!! His wife also looks more like his mom!!
If you ever find an answer to that please let me know. Because I don't see what she saw in him either. He's disgusting and nasty
(Older man) = possible sugar baby. That's why
.. is it not obvious
Come on....you know he was paying her. Remember her tweet, "baby did a bad thing..." SHe was a sugar baby.
I attended Tammy and Sidney's trials. There is video of everyone -Tammy, Sidney, Tammy's sister and her BF - not sure if the kids were around - detailing every inch of the car. After detailing it they threw the rags in a burn pile. There isn't any doubt for most that Heather was in their vehicle. Also, local speculation is that Tammy's father actually helped get rid of Heather's body. He died of a heart attack shortly after the kidnapping / murder. There is so much evidence that wasn't brought into the kidnapping trial but will be for a murder trial if / when Heather is found.
@@DubsTV93 She was looking to see if the detectives had left any bugging devices.
@@DubsTV93 looking for bugs from police seems unlikely to me, I would assume she was looking for blood splatter. At this point they were still cleaning up their mess and didnt have police looking at them until later.
30:41 who's that? where did this take place?
@@l-b284 Tammy's sister and it took place at Tammy's house.
I think the wildest twist to this story is that pay phones were still being used in 2014
I thought that same thing lol. I haven't seen a pay phone in about a decade
i went to basic training in 2013 and there were pay phones
They still have them now but some are more modern
@@brosephbroman7564 a decade is 2013, not far from '14
@@NessieNice 👍
Open marriage = Open cases!!!! remember that folks...
Not open marriage was just for her to have boyfriends as soon as he found someone her jealousy got the best of her like a spoilt brat she can have everything he has to just be her puppet..boyfriends to make her feel better maybe so her delusional mind thinks she is 20 maybe...who knows what went on in her crazy mind..I think when she saw his text messages with heather she realised wasn't a sex thing that he prob really liked heather and was scared he would leave her...
Not... not always? Lol. I’m in an extremely open relationship with my girlfriend. We’re 100% honest with eachother. We see other people. We are incredibly happy together. Because we both have the same views and feelings about being in a relationship, and it’s what works for us. So yeah, it is possible. Lol. But he lied about his open marriage, which is super fucked up. This whole case is just a mess.
@@krystatinyy9652 You aren’t in love with her then. Mostly just “friends with benefits”. One day (if you are even capable) you will fall in love and then the two of you will actually cherish each other. Hope you are practicing safe sex. This is so sad and degrading for the both of you.
@@samantham8696 Imagine being so arrogant you think you understand other people's emotions better than they do
@@user-jc9mu1ek6f Imagine being so ignorant you don’t understand your own human nature.
Tammy to me looks like the kind of woman who would harrass someone. I get a very dark scary feeling when I see her face.
She did?..so yeah?
The narrator refers to her as someone who doesn't look like a person who would harrass another? I don't know why you needed to go out of your way to comment that.. so yeah
Yes she looks like the bully type
Agreed!
Tammy looks like my ex's mom
20, ohhh someone's in denial big time 🤔
She looks like 20+35 😂
I think she was talkin past tense i dont like the bitch im js
Did I miss this? When did he say that? timestamp?
@@callianne666 she told the cops when she was being interrogated
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I haven’t finished the video but I think they set a trap for her, him saying they were going to get back together and to meet up so they could kill her.
Bingo.
totally
I know this is trivial, but please note that unless special circumstances are explicitly stated, your boss cannot demand that you take a pregnancy test and actually can't ask you for the results of that test either.
Her boss was her friend and mentor. I saw her testimony in all three trials. She had to order new bra sizes for her restaurant uniform. She knew that she was having an affair with Sydney and gained a lot of weight so she asked Heather if she wanted to take a pregnancy test. Heather took the test in the presence of Jessica at the restaurant. They both saw the results saying error..heather probably did not get enough urine directly on the test.
@@spiritwalker9903 thank you, it sounded weird without context. I figured her boss was just close with her but I've never had a boss so involved with my life. Sad to hear the boss lost a friend. :(
@@AH-tu3km it would have been extremely unethical huh?
I legit thought this too lol
It was CLEARLY out of concern for her, just as the rest of her co-workers, they ALL could see that she was going downhill, while she kept denying. So if she was pregnant, THEY WOULD ALL take a deep breath.
It looks like she was in fact pregnant, but instead of opening up to her work circle (who cared deeply about her), she used it as a weapon to get at that crazy woman and TWEETED IT instead. Which led to the man buying a pregnancy test and calling her to meet him. It was obviously a set up by the wife, but Heather thought the man was interested and just wanted to make sure she was ''really'' pregnant.
Here’s something I’ve never understood. If a person finds out their significant other is cheating, why instantly get upset at the other person? They were probably lied to and manipulated just as much. There’s no reason to harass the other person unless the circumstances dictate it.
It's like the Jerry Springer show, where the wife goes after the girlfriend while the husband stands by, watching them fight over him. And usually he is nothing to fight for or over.
With all the speculation she may have been pregnant and the guy goes out and buys a pregnancy test at 3.00am in the morning in between calls to Heather. If that was the case this is motive for murder. She wasn't the cheater, the husband was. You're taking a huge risk sleeping with a married person as sadly these things happen and will continue too. I think they're both involved but that the wife was more of an instigator and had more involvement than the husband. I so hope they find more evidence on these people and keep them in jail for ever.
She looks like something from tales of the crypt. .Aaaaa birth certificate please
Basically all of then were morons , she knew he was married , didnt she ? She shouldn't never slept with that loser.... she def didn't deserve to be killed though.
Idk why but when I worked as an overnight cashier a lot of people come in late looking for pregnancy test. They ask for the bathroom some come out crying
The husband was the cheater but she didnt have to go for married man.
@@Alcoholpad sad
“That girl is not normal” That sure is the pot calling the kettle black 😂 So tell me,Tammy--Would she be normal if she sent threatening texts and handcuffed her husband to a bed???
Don't forget forcing the tattoo of her name on his tummy
You took the words out of my mouth
self projection
I just need them to tell us where her body is or what they did to her . This is crazy. Let this girl rest
♥️🙏
@@wolfensus what's funny?
It’s probably in their yard by the fountain why else would you look through a mirror examining it
@@Alexz5040 They probably washed there hands there or maybe looking for blood spatter. I highly doubt they buried her on there property. Maybe they washed the weapon off in the fountain, cleaned it and she checked it later? Said he had a truck? He could have easily transported a body in the back and cleaned it out afterwards. If my wife wanted to kill someone, id hand her ass over to the police. I cant understand why he did that for her?
@@Alexz5040 but had the police really search their yard?
Just awful!! Poor Heather. The whole beginning of the “relationship” was a huge red flag.
I was in a relationship 14yrs ago. He cheated on me and left with the other women. She would call me back to back all day. Send me messages, threatening me. Remember she was the other women. Finally they moved out of state. I’ve changed my number and moved. A few yrs ago she messaged me on fb asking if I’m talking to her man 🙄 I never responded and blocked her. Then a few wks ago she somehow got ahold of my Number and sent me a message about leaving her man alone 😑.. I thought I was done with them. I don’t understand why she is so paranoid and thinks I want him.
That's what she gets for dating a cheater
Give me her phone number if you have it so I can tell her to leave you alone!
Seriously that kind of crazy needs to be checked.
I am only half joking about phone #
I know I know totally inappropriate.
I just feel bad for people who get F*d with and are just minding their own business.
If years have passed and she’s still stalking you like that I hope we have cyber stalker restraining orders in tact someday.
You could try a restraining order..
She was playing with fire and got burned
Heather didn't realize what she was getting into, but I don't think you should blame her age for it. People make mistakes ALL the time no matter what age they are.
Unfortunately she ran into the path of a psycho. Most people do NOT get killed over this.
@@daphne4983 ??
@@daphne4983 Ohhh LOL I'm sorry 😁
Absolutely. No one deserves to have their life ended over these things. That man took advantage of both women and they were both naive and blind to fall for it, even though they were way different in age. Sometimes the only way to learn is through mistakes. It's a shame Heather didn't get to learn from it and grow. And a shame that Brianna never wanted to
But enough do to factor that into your cost/benefit analysis !
Something tells me you’re that “older” lady that is a side piece 😂 and will never learn and will make the same mistakes over and over
Please forgive the armchair detective work, but I just thought I'd give it a go.
I believe Tammi read Heather's Tweets and completely lost her mind thinking Heather was pregnant.
Judging by the fact that she feared losing her husband - and Heather having his child could make that a possibility - I believe she planned on forcing Heather to take the pregnancy test and when it came back as confirmed, she killed her.
This would explain why he bought the pregnancy test and lured Heather out there with Tammi in the truck under the guise of re-uniting with Heather.
Given that Tammi had already imprisoned her husband once before I would not be surprised if she had already planned out how to kidnap Heather.
This would account for the short time frame the truck was out there: if Heather had been rendered unconscious by some means and kidnapped and taken elsewhere.
I believe Tammi would have made Heather take the test, punished her the way she felt Heather deserved and then killed her and buried her in the unknown location.
Sorry if that was very graphic or confusing.
I'm autistic and I struggle with wording so I edited it a lot.
You did a great job explaining and I really like your thoughts.:)
@@chelleyd4020 the wood chipper??? That’s so frickin sad 😥
You did a great job! 👍🏻💜
Good theory. It sounds like the most plausible course of events. This is a sad case. Unfortunately for her family, I don't think Heather will ever be found.
yes and im sure her working at the same place as the husband did, while co-workers noticing she was getting heavier and associating it to being pregnant and already knew of the affair she was having.
Would not suprise me if they talked about this at work, which eventually got back to the husband and wife, instigating the event you have already outlined
It’s crazy seeing someone you personally knew on a random UA-cam suggestion, especially a documentary about her disappearance. My heart drops every time I run across this. Myrtle Beach thanks you for this. ❤️ #justiceforheather
Did she always go after ugly men? It’s funny how women feel enlightened by not going after looks. It just makes you look like a ret**d not dating someone who you’re physically attracted to. She brought all of this on herself. She gets no sympathy from me.
@@Reprobatedestroyer the fact you think you’re relevant enough for your sympathy to matter is beyond me.
Sydney was a week man. He wanted Heather but was easily manipulated by his wife. Love at first sight is a power drug, you need a friend to investigate this new man. You should never get involved with a married man, it’s morally wrong. How many stories like this do you need to see. Stay save out there. ❤️❤️❤️
Weak
He was weak , I wonder if Tammy wore the pants in that relationship? Heather was young, we don't know if maybe she would have learned from that mistake. Also, women that are pregnant and find themselves murdered, the father of the child is usually involved.
Dude I'm not as old as Sydney and Heather (bless her poor sweet heart) looks so very young to me.
I mean what in the actual F
38 years old actually interested in a 20 year old EW!
No disrespect only love for Heather.
But EW EW GUYS CAN BE SO GROSS.
"I look 20" says the gremlin.
Also
"We have an open marriage" and then proceeded to harass her husbands girlfriend and talks about how he cheated?? Like what.
this right here. Yet there's way too many people in these comments blaming the murder victim. As if married men don't prey on young women on purpose, as if they make it clear that they're married and never lie about that. This dude told her he was in an open marriage, she's not at fault for continuing it.
People need to start finally blaming the person who did the crime, not the victim. The "don't fuck married men, hyuck!" comments are not the wise wisdom dumbass people think it is.
Nooo, don’t insult Gremlins! Lol 😆
"says the gremlin" has me DYING 😂
@@uttersolitude I think they got wind somehow that Heather may be pregnant, I think that is why he called her and said he wanted to work things out, then invited her to meet him, went back to his place, took the test, prob positive, Heather got her head smashed near on t1he statue, which is why Tammy was searching for blood there.Then they buried her somewhere. RIP Heather
Tammy looks like she speaks fluent cave troll
19:30 * " I couldn't care less." Everyone always saying " I could care less", implying you do care to some extent.
Yeah, that was the dumbest thing she could've said to a detective. Especially w/ her text history. Did she think they really wouldn't dive any deeper & find out the truth?
Yes! It irks me when people use that sentence incorrectly.
@@ashdixon945 yes...it's one of those annoying "quirky expressions". Ugh
@@chrisw6164 I couldn’t agree that’s true, it’s just they couldn’t care less.
Thank you. It drives me nuts. That and irregardless.
Poor Heather, she never got a chance to truly live. And not to be cliche, but why him? Let this be a lesson to women to be more picky in choosing partners.
As someone still in their early 20s, this made me feel grateful that im still single and got time to pick the right person compare to a lot of people my age moving quickly in their relationship, experimenting with things and having kids
@Teena Courtney attractive???
Lesson to women? Me when looking at the character of Tammy as a wife I would also say lesson to men when choosing a wife.
Heather made her own decision. She chose to endanger herself, and this is where it got her.
@@ajay-naz6996
As you _intelligently_ mentioned above, as just one lesson in choosing a wife, all men should pay careful attention and when coming across
a woman matching anything close to _Tammy_ ....do this.....
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I really don't understand jurors sometimes. It's like, every little detail points toward foul play. That girl was harassed, lured, and murdered in cold blood. There are phone records, text messages, videos, and very non-consistent storylines by both of them. I just pray that Heather gets the justice she deserves and that the police find some groundbreaking evidence that will put these monsters behind bars for the rest of their lives. Rest easy princess.
The hold-outs were concerned because Sydney was a "father." Well, Heather was a daughter.
I'm from Myrtle Beach, South Carolina and this was a huge case!
stay safe
Watching this now, crazy . So many mugshots ? Did they been arrested multiple times??
@@_OHEN Sidney had his trial and it came back as a hung jury. They had a retrial and he was ultimately convicted of 30 years. He is currently incarcerated at Lee Correctional Facility in South Carolina. This is a very notorious dangerous maximum security prison. There was a major prison riot there just a few years back. Numerous prisoners were murdered viciously. It is right where he deserves to be. Sidney's wife was bat shit crazy and she indeed would handcuff Sidney to the bed so he would not go cheat on her with Heather. Both Sidney and Tammy have never confessed or told where Heather's remains are. Her poor family deserves that closure!
I'm had just moved out of the Carolina Forest area on River Oaks a few months before she disappeared. I have lived in Horry County for 23 years and have lived in and worked in Myrtle Beach. I remember when this was everywhere. I'm glad this case is getting the attention it deserves.
I miss the beach. It's been too long.
Getting involved with a person who's married is plain gross! Tammy obviously has some sort of fun-house mirrors, if she thinks she looks 20. I give the detective alot of credit for keeping a straight face. 😲
Fun house mirrors! I spit my Cheerios!🤣
Haaa!
I’m 73 and I look a damn sight better than her.
000@@GradKat
Heather might've not made a great decision in joining this marriage more or less but she didn't know it wasn't monogamous. Please don't victim blame her and respect that she was a young woman with high emotions who maybe, just maybe, realized in a panic that she was pregnant with someone else's child.
Tammy is the type to never tell where they put the body. She likes having that control in the situation and probably feels like she has a one up on the girl. I bet if this girl wasn’t so attractive, making her feel like she could actually lose him to her, it wouldn’t have gone that far.
Terrible what happened to Heather, but I laughed out loud when he told the investigators that he and his dusty-uterused wife were trying for a baby.
I would never as a wife force my husband to stop cheating if that's what he chooses then he can count me out. Heather was definitely murdered by them and it's sad asf
They did too obvious.
Tammy claims that she has no love for her husband after finding out he cheated, yet she hand cuffs him to the bed, followed him to and from work and takes his phone. A rational person would let their cheating husband dig his own grave and divorce him, if truly there was no love.
Obsession
If there's another woman and my husband would rather have her than me, he's all hers!
My daughter worked with Heather. My son and daughter went to school with her and Heather came to my house to hang out. Sidney and Tammy lived literally a minute from me and Peachtree was also right by my house. Everyone has gone to the landing for everything from fishing, boating, kayaking or to just drink some beer, smoke some weed and stare at the water. The memorial shows just how loved Heather was. There is so much not said in this story and hopefully it will update. They both deserve to sit in jail. Tammy's mother was getting all sorts of harassment and Tammy's father died of a massive heart attack not long after Tammy went to jail. Some say her father also helped get rid of Heather's body. He had a yard work business and it's been speculated that Heather was put in the wood chipper and then she was spread all over the place from SC to Florida and California. A grown ass man and woman killing a child is just wrong.
Wow!!! Well, whatever they did, they made sure she wasn't found. So it's reasonable to believe they had help. The video of them cleaning out their truck after her disappearance is also damning. And that bizarre video of Tammy w/ a mirror searching their property? Strange. His lies about buying a pregnancy test that very same night for his wife? Come on. That’s the motive. I hope Heather’s family can someday get the closure they need, though it will never bring her back. I can't imagine the pain they live with. It's such a sad story. Take care.
That woodchipper thing sounds like a typical ridiculous internet myth but yeah they do deserve to be jailed for sure.
Omg 😳
Wow
I kinda thought they threw her in the water and gators got her :-( such a gorgeous girl
Correction: Tammy, when interrogated by the police, said that she "was (as in, used to be) 20 yrs old". Not that she "looks" 20.... The narrator, unfortunately, stated it wrong.
So his alibi is: he and his wife were together the whole time, first at home, being intimate, she's drinking wine, then they go to one gas station where he gets gas, a second gas station where he parks across the street so Tammy can't see him go use the payphone to call Heather, who hasn't been harassing him, to tell her to stop harassing him, she just thinks he's going in the store for something, then he goes to another store for a home pregnancy test, because they want to have a baby, nvmnd she's in her 40's, drinking wine, toxic marriage, then they go home to be intimate again, all at 3am...sounds legit
you should NEVER cheat in the first place
@steven berthy, Understandably, but that's NO reason to kill someone. P.S. it takes 2 to tango....
He should not have your right , nor should he have lied. To both woman, no man is worth someone’s life.
I swear I thought I was the only one thinking this. Cheating and betraying your spouses trust makes most people a special kind of crazy especially if your spouse knocks up the chick.
@@tiffkungpoify so, it would make you? Scarry
No you should never Cheat...But Tammy Took Her Anger Out on The Wrong Person...!
"I look 20..." no, no honey, you do not look 20, not even close. "I don't care if he sleeps with 100 people"...and she's calling Heather "not right". Dang....this is messed up.
So he was "shot at" and his children were getting threatened online.
I condone neither of those things but must point out that none of that would've been happening if it weren't for you stepping outside of your marriage and you and your wife's subsequent crime-ing, Sport.
If Tammy got an emotional reaction when seeing Heathers sister, is it possible somehow Lawyers/Law Enforcement could use Heathers sister to try and get a confession out of Tammy? If Tammy has an emotional reaction when just seeing Heathers sister it seems like that should be a point of interest?
Good thought!
For real yo!
This could have been prevented if people would just freaking split the hell up if you don't trust your partner. Also don't cheat on your partner or jump into a relationship with someone that's with someone. It never ends well.
The woman doesn’t seem sane enough to just split. This goes behind a cheating husband and a mad wife. She’s an obsessive psycho and someone else in her life would’ve ended up dead sooner or later if it hadn’t been Heather.
*goes BEYOND
I am a true crime fanatic and I have seen a lot of YT channels cover the Heather Elvis case. Tons. HOWEVER, you gave some info that I haven't heard before and that is what keeps me coming back to you guys. You do your research and it shows. That makes me keep coming back to you guys. Excellent job once again. Thx for covering the true crime cases that you do. Everyone deserves to have their story heard.
What an amazingly affective narrator. Blessed be, goodness what a voice, approach and ride on the story. Clearly a forensic files fan. You are so fantastic at what you do. This can't be learned or taught.
Dude, it’s a text-to-voice generator. 🤦♂️
I’ve seen this story on so many channels on UA-cam from That Chapter to Trace Evidence Podcast and that couple is guilty as sin. For such a beautiful girl it’s a shame she fell for such a deadbeat. She didn’t deserve to die. 💔
I love "that chapter" so much...
@@david8962 Agree, I'm a Mike groupie too. 🤳
Well if she knew he was married then yeah
@@TheDramacist That's messed up. She bought into the "open relationship" bs that a lot of cheaters like to use. She was young, naive and made a bad decision. She didn't deserve to be harassed and murdered because of it.
@@TheDramacist really? did you not hear where they said they had an open relationship?
where he told her his wife didn't care.
so you think killing her is the answer?
40 year old who looks 60 :
"I look 20."
Me:
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Cheaters this days🤦🤦 i don't know why they need to cheat. Why not end the relationship before having another relationship to avoid hurting someones feeling. There's just so many evil lurking the world this days. Tempting those people who has a little of Gods faith.
@@MatanuskaHIGH yum, cake
So, you think if he told Tammy that he did not love her, this would not hurt her feelings? Crazy insecure mediocre possesive people always react badly. They can't take a no. They can't take the truth. Their reactions are so over exagerated many choose to lie to them. How sad to be thus pathetic.
So, you think if he told Tammy that he did not love her, this would not hurt her feelings? Crazy insecure mediocre possesive people always react badly. They can't take a no. They can take the truth. Their reactions are so over exagerated many choose to lie to them. How sad to be thus pathetic.
My kids dad cheated on me for 13 years with a prostitute. He made up lies about me in court to take my kids as I was taken off my mother as a baby and she went jail for gbh to me I was adopted eventually but me and my brother were messed up because of what happened. I went through a bad time and took drugs but got clean when pregnant but as he was a police informant and had no police record but I did he won. I am in pain every day as because I wouldn’t get back with him he beat me in front of my 6 year old boy. He locked me in so only way out was window. He pushed me and I broke both bones in my leg and my ankle was smashed to pieces. I have a metal frame on my leg now. That prostitute janine sallis has text me telling me to leave etc that her and my kids dad were going to be together. I don’t understand why people cheat. I have left my kids dad and they are both to blame when they both know the situation. I hate cheats. If a guy cheats leave as he won’t stop or change. If he loved you he wouldn’t do it.
It's not Christian for a married father to divorce his wife to pursue a young woman.
- The children need a father
- The wife needs a husband
- The young woman should pursue a man within her age range so that she can spend as much of her time with him, and so can her children (if an old man with children of his own wants more children in the first place)
Seemed like the husband couldn't stand up for himself, which left a power vacuum that Tammy had to fill in her own way.
Its Always 3am. Always. My mom always said nothing good ever happens that late
I believe tammy misspoke or the recording isnt clear enough. She said straight after that "she wasnt that kind of girl" and "I had friends". Both of these are past tense references
Yea I think she said I've looked 20..
I have zero doubts that Sidney was manipulated into luring Heather to the docks. I mean, he did allow himself to be manipulated to put that mad-woman's name on his stomach. He shouldn't get any less time, or rather, death penalty than his crazy wife.
You can see the lies, deceit and guilt in both of their eyes! They killed this girl.
"I kept calling Heather repeatedly to tell her to leave me alone, officer. Honest! This was in-between bouts of intense lovemaking with my wife, whom I am devoted to. We're trying for a baby, nevermind that she looks 55. Honest!" How detectives can listen to this garbage without telling people like Sydney to stfu is beyond me.
I dont understand why people cheat just leave ur couple . and then go with the other person u like without hurting anybody
It would still hurt, just not as bad as getting your heart completely ripped out of your body and then thrown away like a piece of trash. I have first hand knowledge of that feeling.
Stockholm syndrome .
jealousy is such a powerful feeling, a lot of crimes had been committed about that !
Its not that easy.
Cuz they’re selfish and want both
i’m a little surprised the young girl didn’t block this woman’s number after having been sent home for receiving so many calls during work or contact police
She shouldn't have to do that. She also was a very young girl. Sometimes People cannot think of things that may be obvious to others.
My stoned ass only just realised what EWU crew stands for
I'm stoned too, what does it mean? Lol 🌿🔥💨👍
@@carlasullivan3637 🤣 I just took a couple hits and I was wondering the same thing...I need what she's smoking I guess.
@@carlasullivan3637 Hint, look at the name of the channel...I should be the detective! 😉
@@carlasullivan3637 I'm going to have to agree with victory 😂 look at the name of the channel
My stoned ass was convinced they are saying “evil crew”
I think they definitely planned together to lure Heather into a trap. That's why they parked _across the street_ from the gas station at which Sidney called her from a payphone & got gas at a different station - they didn't want to show up on surveillance footage. Heather then got in the truck, which is why they were cleaning it out the next day. Maybe Tammy popped up from behind her with a cord or something right then, but that doesn't explain the fountain. The fountain means either Heather was there at their house & touched or bled on it, OR that 1 or both of them cleaned their hands off in it. If they took her back to their house, it was either forced or under the guise of "let's all end the question of your pregnancy once & for all & we'll all work together to deal with the results". I think they went with the latter based on his having bought a celebratory cigar in addition to the pregnancy test, to make Heather think they were all going to take it as good news & celebrate it if positive, & if negative they'd all just go their separate ways. Heather went in the bathroom, the test came back positive, Tammy murdered her, & they both disposed of the body together, possibly at/near the dock.
Just my opinion.
Instead of "Why you should NEVER cheat with a married man", how about title it, "Why you should NEVER be a perv and cheat on your wife with a young girl who doesn't know any better"? I simply cannot believe the victim blaming that goes on with this case. It's atrocious. She was practically a child, and HE should have known better.
It’s not victim blaming. There are so many creeps like him in the world and even though it should be obvious, it seems they still act on impulses and are selfish pricks. We gotta warn young girls about creeps like these, they may seem genuine and charming and try to entangle you with promises but they are pervs who only care about their own pleasures.
@@LunaTheWise Her entire case is filled with victim blaming! I can't tell you the number of times I've seen her being called a shut or a whore, and/or people straight up blaming her for her own murder. It's absolutely disgusting!
@@LunaTheWise You can warn people about these kinds of creeps, without BLAMING them.
This video and a lot of comments are victim blaming.
Well she knew she was going after a married man. Everyone knows how wrong it is to have an affair but she still went along with it. It's not victim blaming. She knew what she was doing and has to be held accountable for that.
@@af98 Oh, bite me! Having an affair does not make it okay for someone to be murdered! Once again, the victim blaming here is atrocious. She was a young woman just starting her life, and this guy was a dirt bag perv that thought with his dick instead of his head, and took advantage of her. HE was the one that should have stayed faithful to HIS WIFE, considering HE was the one that was MARRIED! You need to freaking check yourself. I can't even deal with this it makes me so fuk!ng mad.
So why didn’t heather just block Tammy? Get a new phone number, never talk to Sidney. Problem solved
She probably just thought that this was no big deal, her and Sidney were in love and THEY were going to be an exclusive couple and that Tammi would stop being a crazy ex after awhile and go away eventually.
When you're young and naive you can get blinded by love and miss the obvious red flags.
(Older people too obviously, but most of us have the "dumb relationship regret" moment when we're younger)
Do u Really think it’s that easy? Omg 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Crazy is CRAZY. Tammy STILL would have came for her. She would find her follow her stalk her
I tried blocking a guy yesterday. Says he’s block but I’m still getting his texts.
Sad story. Poor girl probably was caught up in emotions and believed everything sidney told her
*****Why you should never cheat*******
If only it was visible to anyone on planet earth, what the heck she saw in him….😮
U should never cheat ever if your not happy with your other half then bloody live go get lost . Don't f around with others when your married that's just wrong I hate cheaters there the worst
I doubt she looked 20 when she was actually 20!!!! These people are guilty as sin and should rot in jail! He went after a younger girl and toyed with her head and wifey was angry!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
Probably the girl toyed with the head of a weak man with a mad mate but you don't kill a KITTEN for being frisky and playful unless youre evillll and need to pay. !
The wife is disgusting. Handle it like a real woman and just leave him for cheating. I pray Heather is in heaven just soaring with wings. Happy as ever. And that God will bless her family with the discovery of her body and that Gods Peace surrounds them. So tragic and very unnecessary of this grown woman 💔.
@@evilangel2918 Aaahh here we go with the praying shit...
@@ginomartell4237 let people be. Their intention is kindness and empathy. Don't make us, agnostic or atheist, look like an arrogant douche by mocking how others handle their sadness. When people pray, that's how they cope. It won't hurt other people. Be humble, and understanding
@@cesarebachelli Yeah I'll let people be delusional.
@@ginomartell4237 don't be arrogant, and act like we are above others just because we are atheists.
@@cesarebachelli If you think stating facts is arrogance then that's your problem. Don't act like a pansy.
I went to school with Heather Elvis and was in class with her brother. She was a very sweet girl, and this murder shocked our community. I'll never know why she was messing around with Sidney Moorer. I remember different people trying to get arrested when Tammy was in jail so they could maybe have an opportunity to put hands on her. Tammy is a complete psychopath. I remember when Heather posted on FB "Yea, I'm a homewrecker as in I will literally swing a wrecking ball through your home." I was about to reach out, but I assumed it was just a funny post. It's still so crazy to me. Glad EWU covered this.
👵🏼 I look 20. 👵🏼I go out to concerts and snort lines of coke off my own g-string cause I’m young 👵🏼and fun👵🏼. But that girl is just not right.
@@MatanuskaHIGH well you too might just not be right according to that dudes wife. She’s the standard we all aspire to live up to lol
I don't know how the person interviewing her didn't crack up laughing!
@@evabell9749 I know right that was pure wild of her 😂 can you believe she had the audacity?
Yeah she's delusional
I'm 40 years old, and if there's one thing I've learned over the course of my life, it's that the whole "open relationship" thing is a complete goddamn lie. It doesn't work, even if the people involved truly believe in it, it always falls apart or leads to some heavy conflict and drama, and people should stay away from anyone who claims to be in one.
Agreed! But in this case, I don't think these people had an open relationship to begin with. Sydney lied to Heather about it to get in her pants. And Tammy lied to the police about it, thinking they wouldn't be investigated. She was wrong.
Lol where did you get your relationship counseling certification? Or is it a PhD in psychology?
My fiance's brother is in an open relationship with his wife and girlfriend. Apparently their marriage wasn't going so well, so they went to couples counseling. He opened up about wanting an open marriage, to which his wife agreed to make him happy. Apparently it's actually improved the marriage. I met his girlfriend, who is really smart and sweet. If it works for them, more power to them. I'm not one to judge. I could never do it, but I know some people enjoy being poly, which is fine.
@@MidnightSonnet it's like roommates with side kick I guess
Dear wives, stop blaming and attacking the other woman, your husband is the problem, just leave him.
Or maybe don't be a psychotic abusive manipulative murderer?
The Heather Elvis story never fails to make me sad. She deserved so much more than what life gave her.
Edit: Heather was definitely wrong for going after a married man. That’s never excusable, and is something no one should ever do. But, I still feel sympathy for her, as she was young, and no one should ever lose their life over something like this. An older, married man shouldn’t have been reciprocating her advances.
I mean to be fair though, she did make a terrible decision by going after a married man to begin with. It’s not all her fault, but she does share some of the blame.
It’s really sad (and I hope these people go to prison for the rest of their lives), but her tale is a cautionary one... there was nothing about that man that said “good boyfriend material”. He wasn’t even attractive. What was she thinking?
What a terrible decision to make, even if it didn’t end up taking her life. The dude is straight-up gross
@@Sniperboy5551she was told it was an open relationship
I cannot fathom, how on earth heather got involved with that creep, she continued seeing him after found out he was still married to that lunatic woman. Sadly she made poor judgments with tragic consequences.
Arashani,, I know right , what was she thinking
Everyone here saying, getting a divorce would've avoid this but considering how crazy the wife is, it wouldn't made a difference. Also why such a beautiful women went after him? Both women baffled me
becasue that's what home-wrecking whores do they don't care
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@Teena Courtney meh, that’s kinda how I would want a woman to act if their “faithful” husband was having an affair. Women gotta protect what’s theirs. The abuse is a bit much though
Teena Courtney you look like trash . Let me guess you can’t find a man and no one wants you
@@carlimcelrath1901 Heather was NOT married, Sydney was. Why do women get called home wrecking hoes? I just don't get it? Men get away with worst behaviour, NO CONSEQUENCES! Wtf?
Maybe Tammy had Sidney lure Heather into meeting him at the landing (by telling her he wanted to get back with her), then he invited her into his vehicle where she left her car behind. He took Heather to his and Tammy's home and they killed her in their yard near the fountain and Tammy was inspecting it to be sure there were no blood stains? Then they took Heather's body into their truck and dumped her somewhere. It seems odd that they would kill someone in their yard though, I just don't understand why Tammy would be inspecting the fountain so closely unless she was worried there might be evidence on it.
Ithink that's exactly what happened! Think about it, as a young woman, pregnant with his baby, and he calls saying, "let's be together." The calls line up with her car being how it was found. I think she went there, got into his truck, he drove her to his house, the crazy wife attacked... But pretty much the same as you. 🙃
@Dot Matrix True 👍
@G VC Yeah, that is a possibility as well.
@G VC Ohhh snap... You're right!
This is a local tragedy that begun shortly after I moved to the area. I never knew Heather or the family, although I did meet the father, Terry. There were no words to say to soothe his pain, which is quite understandable. A 20 year old woman looking to embark on a career, meet a man to fall in love with and have her happily ever after, was just a youthful fantasy. The crazy woman was Tammy, who admitted in one of her writings that she used to sleep with rock stars when they toured. She lies like Amber Heard and I'm so happy she's not there to raise her children, so they have a chance at life. This is an all around tragedy for this beautiful family. I pray for the Elvis family every day.
yeah i've seen this story done sooo many times...i always said, if i gotta handcuff my hubby to the bed at night, it's probably time to tapout!!!!
@@aflawedhuman2046 AMEN!!!
Oh man her tweets, she was definitely infatuated with him to say those things publicly😳
I feel bad that this happened. However at 20 you’re an adult. They’re trying to paint this picture as though she was innocent in all of this. All parties were absolutely wrong