I have to be honest she's down on education compared to lilly and rachels medical degrees, but what she lacks in smarts, she makes up for in comfort. I love these cheeks. they're just so snug and grippy, they make you want to sit in them
@@srr1887 HEs right pretty much every other review of this car was great. its a k series motor with 4 doors that has similiar track times as the m3s..... value is still sitting above msrp even with 50k+ miles.
"Civic Type R’s design was ‘very focused on aerodynamics.’ It produces more downforce than its FK2 predecessor, but also 3% less drag overall at high speed. Honda claims it is the only hot hatch in the C-segment which produces no lift whatsoever, only downforce." Shit load of other websites confirm the same thing www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/honda/honda-civic-type-r-2017-review/
@@OmicronWeaponry I mean the type r was made with track in mind the smallest boxy line or humps make a huge difference .. why do you think track cars look soo" rice "lol
@Pro-Facts Anti-BS wait a minute . The ep3 is probably one of the ugliest civics to date .. and shit 5mp more in a corners and being able to handle it cuts time of your laps ..
@@SlowJoe76 The type R kicks the shit out of everything in the segment in every way aside from an awd launch. Doug fucked this review up and let the crazy ass styling at the time and the quoted numbers manipulate him. He says "it's not up to the level of the STI or RS" when you floor it but... it kills them both from a roll. Ford quoted crank hp, Honda quoted whp. Just saying. I love Doug but this review is a mega fuckup on his part.
@@gr33nspan i mean it’s got like one or two things, but the fake hood vent is... fake. The fake front bumper vents are...fake. The vortech generators do...jack shit. The wing is functional, probably above 95mph. All i’m sayin is a lot of clowns think it is functional from 20mph.
@@M54B30_fan The painfully fake vents up front is all I know that is not doing anything. Everything else is functional aero at high speeds. The hood scoop provides cooling to the engine. Not sure how that qualifies it as fake.
@@gr33nspan my bad you’re right about the hood scoop, damn thing i was reading before said they were fake, but they were wrong. Does cool and lower lift at higher speed because takes air out of engine bay.
@@Heyoo414 I'm a fan of him and think he's a really cool dude, but he really missed the mark with this video. Like holy shit, how does he get this so completely and utterly wrong?
Because it’s so quiet, when I bought the car i didn’t like how quiet it was but after a year of driving a it I kinda like how comfortable and quiet it’s when doing road trips and driving the family around.
not even a challenger hellcat redeye has all that aero... and it tops out @203mph... this thing wont get anywhere near those speeds.. so its just for looks
@@TheAow4321 "just for looks"...Not true. When driving it at high speed you can actually feel the wing plant the car firmly to the road. The wing is big and it really works. The car is extremely stable at high speeds.
@@MsBigtom Its over the top.. its not a hypercar.. I get the same feeling of planted-ness in my scat pack with its little duckbill spoiler. And i can guarantee Ive hit a higher speed in this car than a type r will...
Type R: “If I’m paying for this premium model, I want all the switches. Blank switches are the worst!” GT350R: “This is a performance car, and the blank switches show that. Blank switches are cool!” lmao
Doug, thanks for the actually fairly balanced review of a car you obviously don't love. The only nitpick I'd offer is that the wing, despite "flopping around" when you close the hatchback, can still make downforce. To wit: 1) check out the "floppy" wings on F1 cars in recent seasons. 2) simply by lowering pressure behind the car, the wing could be helping the diffuser under the car work better. I raced a formula car for years and this was something we focused on: not just the wing producing downforce, but its integration into the comprehensive aero approach for the car. Just FYI. Please keep the reviews coming!
I can tell you something for certain: the aerodynamic design of a formula car, of any kind, will have tons more impact on that car's performance than whatever little DRS-style flaps you attach to a Honda Civic. On a basic level, the aero kit on a Civic isn't producing much downforce - particularly not relative to the amount of weight the car itself is putting on the tires. Although a DRS-style system would certainly make a big impact on a car with a more focused aerodynamic concept - say, a hypercar like the Valkyrie, whose entire design concept is founded on leveraging Venturi tunnels and a simple rear wing for backend downforce - it has little to no impact on a car like the Civic. I'm 100% sure that if you strip the Civic Type R's aero pieces off of it, the performance with everything else identical will be the same, if not better thanks to all of that lost weight.
Thomas Gipson you must not kno shit about cars don't need much torque to torque steer. Not defending the car cuz I don't like it myself. I prefer the focus rs
Torque steer is caused from a difference in length of cv axles. it's really hard to get a car with a larger transaxel engine to not have disproportionally uneven axles in the front, which nets a difference in parasitic loss of each wheel, producing torque steer. That's why it is way more common in FWD cars
I totally get Doug. The thing might be faster than a Concorde airliner, and more reliable than a Toyota and I couldn't care less, the hideous design ruins it for me.
Christ help me A wing still serves a purpose on a FWD car. Sure not a slow one because you're not gonna get up to speeds where it's necessary but it still provides downforce to the rear wheels which prevents the back end from swinging out like with most hatchbacks like this
Most "carbon fiber" you see is actually fake. If it has perfect weaves seen thru the epoxy, it's more for show. Real carbon fiber has really dozens of irregular patches as seen thru a clear epoxy.
Why is Honda proud of the fact that it's $2000 odd bucks cheaper than the competition? If this car was AWD the starting price point would cost the same as a WRX STI or Focus RS.
ring times aren't impressive and probably are inconsistent diffrent drivers different road conditions diffrent tires not all the shifts were 100% perfect the ring is a like a math problem with 160 variables also subarus ra got under 7 minutes (i can't speak for ford but hey, the rs has a drift mode)
Nimdonomuskid ring times are impressive its just when a Honda civic kills it everyone bases ring times like they dont matter. The ring is the longest and most physically demanding track used for performance testing. Yes they use different drivers but they are all hired professionals paid to do one thing, set the fastest production lap in whatever car. Most lap times are warm summer days where tires will have more grip. Each car must use the OEM tire which have to bee street legal. It's a 7 - 8 min long track with a fast car, obviously every shift won't be 100%. And its was the STI Type RA NBR which is not even street legal that set a time of 6:57
For the run, Honda used a pre-production model, which is said to have been "technically representative of production specification". The car had a full floating roll cage for safety reasons, which did not provide any additional rigidity to the body frame according to Honda, and to compensate for the added weight, the rear seats and Display Audio system were removed. Moreover, the Nurburgring record for front-wheel drive production cars was achieved using street legal, track-focused tires. Not bashing it, but just mentioning that it wasn't even a production car that beat the time..
Damn Doug, who hurt you? I get that you're allowed to be critical as a critic but you're a car guy for god's sake, why are you bashing Aero components on a car designed for racing on a track? "What are these things??" They're called vortex generators, and they are on the roof to funnel air to the spoiler. Yes, a FWD track car has a spoiler because, as a car enthusiast you should know this, *weight transfer* exists. And I love how you *only* mentioned the fake vents and never even bothered to explain the functional vents for the hood and for the wheel wells. Sure, let's talk performance. A FWD car has a slower launch than AWD cars, wow thanks for that insight. It is a full second slower, but you even fail to mention that on the Nurburgring it is almost 15 seconds faster than the Focus RS and the STi. Honda did not build this car with straight-line speed in mind, maybe that's why the didn't feel the need to tout it as a selling point to you.
Finally someone who knows what he is talking about! I was gonna talk about the vortex generators as well if this comment did not exist already. This comment should be at the top! And forgot to mention that the third central and smaller exhaust pipe has its purpose as well! It is not there for design only. It's easy to criticise and talk shit even if you don't know all the facts.
@@ClayChapman0 civic type r 0 60 5.8 sec, cls 55 amg 0-60. 4.2,stock,but every one that’s tried to run me in a slow civic type r I embarrass their ass. 638hp 647 ft lbs torque, slightly modified and can turn it up to 750hp...only Honda beating me is my bike
I think it looks alright. I'd like to see more car manufacturers be this brave with their car's aesthetics. Exotic styling doesn't have to be exclusive to exotic cars.
Limit Did I say that? No. I said I am with the crowd who wants a fast car that doesn't look like it's for 12 year olds or call the attention of police at every red light.
If you don't like it don't buy it. Simple. Your taste is your taste, but you said you didn't want manufacturers to make them which would deny others that choice. You can't force everyone to have the same taste as you.
Limit I didn't say people had to have the same taste as me. However, bold design does not mean a car has to be butt ugly. Honda seemed to not get that memo. The Focus RS is the perfect blend of this. It stands out but isn't obnoxiously over styled.
thats just bs, you are not a car enthusiast if youre not willing to explain your hobby to others. How shall new comers get into this when everyone would think like you did... @Rain Norris: rice means Race Inspired Cosmetic Enhancements but the meaning has expanded to absurd performance mods like a huge exhaust system for your 4 cyl, that doesnt even produce enough exhaust to use it or adding a giant wing on the back, that is not designed for your car and so does not add any downforce but adds air resistance making your car actually go slower. It has become a meme for overtuned absurd modded cars that shall look like race cars but are modded cheap and dont perform. People even started to call bad paintjobs or a bad fitting bodykit "rice" just because it was a bad job done, something a race car would never have because money is not an issue there. just google for more info. ;)
I just love how doug does not give a shit about what *people think* or *how famous the car is* he just roasted the car and he shows you the most craziest things that you dont even notice and he just makes you laugh so hard . One of the best youtubers right here XD
the exhaust note or the lack of is a surprise. the car screams loud. the rs sounds amazing down shifting and hearing those pops. i am sure the honda fans will replace or mess with it to get the right sound out of it. also i seen many reviews and everyone is kissing tbr type r butt other then Doug. tell it as it is
A car that a 40 yrs old can afford but won't buy because it looks like a car for a 16 yr old, which by the way can't afford its price. Car looks ridiculously over designed.
Honda is just responding to all the ricers who riced their old civics, they will be buying this like crazy since it already comes with terrible body kit.
It is because you dont know nothing about this car... type R is the car people between 30 - 50 years old people like to buy, this is an exclusive car... This car is simply amazing, if you dont like exotic style buy a Focus Rs or a Golf GTi, you can go on the road and people think it is a 1.4tdi...
Seems fair, considering the quality difference between Honda and the other brands, which Doug "forgot" to mention. But hey, at least he knows to bitch about the same thing as every other reviewer with any other car: The interior plastics. As if interior plastics would be the cause of Subaru head gaskets blowing up
@Sassy The Sasquatch It does increase horse power believe it or not. The faster you get the exaust out, the better because pressure build up decreases horse power. If you like, I will send you an article that explains it more in detail.
If somebody made a video about how he's smart, he'd make a video about how they're wrong and that he's a complete fucking moron. And for once, he'd actually have a valid point.
Ive never seen a normal person seeing a type R and saying "Wow that is a beautiful car". This thing looks like a childs toy, I cant believe how a grown human being can drive around in that xD
@@stefanbondeson6505 You've definitely never driven one. It's the best DD ever built. There isn't a close second. I've owned or used the rest of the segment. The CTR killed it.
@CrazyLegsMcGee no I'm saying because you're so manly and masculine and an absolute Chad I'm asking why did you reply then if you don't care so much. It's okay to care sometimes my dude I'm happy to change my mind if you can convince me but the way you're tryna act cool or whatever is pretty pathetic
I got a Toyota Sienna van because a rental company rented my original car out from underneath me. It was a major upgrade, and no shit, it was a pretty decent V6. Almost 300hp in a minivan was surprising.
But if it looks this bad, I don't care if it holds the record of quickest way to get you laid. I'd have to tell people I owned the ugliest car ever. People would see me get out of it. She'd have to be Kate Beckinsale (without make-up) with Gemma Arterton's tits before I'd consider buying one.
that has always been the point of hot hatches, they have always been cheaply built, but they are as fun to drive as a porsche or lambo because of how much is invested in performance
Totally disagree with this guy testing the spoiler by slaming the hatch hard and claiming it cant push the car downward. The parachutes arent hard either but still can slow down a person from falling 120mph till 17mph, cant it? Its not about soft or hard material on directing the air flow.
The spoiler is supposed to bounce so that the elastic force of its size doesnt have to concentrate on one part of the trunk. It disperses across the wing. My STI wing shakes too
Car And Driver tested it : "Here, though, are the headline facts from this instrumented test: Zero to 60 mph in 4.9 seconds, 1.02 g of lateral grip, and the ability to stop from 70 mph in a Porsche-like 142 feet-in a tweaked, front-wheel-drive commuter car with 61.8 percent of its 3111 pounds resting on the front wheels. So, yeah, extremely solid." Set a class record at the Nurburgring. It's not a drag car. If you want one of those buy a 600+ HP pony car.
Kyle Just Kyle if it’s an FWD electric or hybrid car vs an AWD fuel car, then maybe not but if they have the same type of engine, then AWD is faster off the line than FWD
Honda went out of their way to appeal to millennials with this one. It’s completely riced out. And I’m a Honda fan myself. I miss the S2000, CRX, and Prelude. These were classy, practical and fully functional models.
Vegaspsycho how much are you going to use the parking brake on a fwd car? You guys weren't buying the fucking care anyway... Don't give me this "deal breaker tbh" bullshit
geryl vinoya for parking. Parking brake. Not sure what kind of driving you do in a fwd car that having a button instead of a handle on your brake makes it a deal breaker
Well, the thing is, this car isn't marketed to someone who has a Viper and used to have a Vantage. It's pretty much your average Joe's fancy hot hatch. A little bit of customizing might make it a nice little track car.
Inspiration _ did you hear what he said about the aftermarket segment around 13:10? It's still only front wheel drive, how much more power is going to transfer through those wheels? You'd have better luck removing things off this, or just starting with a better (not fwd) platform altogether
Golden Duck All he does is shit on the car for what it's not supposed to be. It's like reviewing a Mazda 3 and shitting on it cuz it can't go rock crawling.
Oh they will when it is 10-15 years old, and all clapped out. Then they can put 3 fart cans on the back, and rev the piss out of it annoying everyone for 2 sq miles.
Antonis Mamais So the 25k civic has all the buttons missing, a parking sensor, less useless plastic body parts, and 5 seats. all those things that he didn't like are on the cheaper model so he's not comparing it to some super expensive car.
Don't worry. I believe the opposite will happen with this car when it comes to aftermarket body kits. You will start seeing kits that tone it down as with before you'd see kits to increase the gaudiness/aggressiveness. Give it a few months and you'll see better and cleaner front and rear bumpers being offered by tuners.
@@jakehart7617I'm a die hard Honda fan & I disagree. If they had made a 2 door hatch version of this instead of the 4 door crossover-roach looking thing. It would've been great.
The Stig's German Cousin The real problem is that it's just too much going on. The ideal type R is the European one from 2015. This design is too bloated
If some of you are pissed about the review or feel it's biased in someway is because that is the whole point of a review. You are supposed to watch several to conclude your final thoughts of the car
@AlasTVRisHere Impreza isn't just faster in 0-60 time, but also in 1/4 mile. I also believe it would beat the civic in most tracks, for example in Tsukuba. The civic has only higher mid speed and top speed, but other than that Impreza is prettier, sounds better, overall faster and more exciting to drive thanks to AWD.
@AlasTVRisHere sorry for late reply. Idk on what kind of track did motortrend tested it, but I just can't see a STI loosing against FK8 on Tsukuba or in 1/4 mile. STI has AWD and shorter gears, so it has advantage in short straights and small tracks. FK8 could only win in longer straights, and longer tracks, because it has better power/weight ratio and longer gears. And even if it's slower there, it still looks better, sound better and it's more fun to drive...Honda is my favorite car brand, but the sports cars they are making recently are just terrible..I think this Civic is at least much better than the new NSX, only the design is terrible and overall it doesn't have that Type R "aura" anymore, like other Type R cars. But that's just my opinion. If you own this car and you like it, I'm glad for it.
Like honestly they are so mad. These type of car company's are about saving money an not putting any real emotion or are barely trying now a days. also car standards are a pain but i mean, this isn't a hot hatch like it use to be. it sounds like a stock civic lmao.... like we at least want a tuned sounding car. this car is beat by a hyundai with less power. xD
no, but he had an ax to grind obvious whether you are a Honda fan or not. Anyone who is supposed to be an automotive journalist should know by now a lot the car's design is what yielded the Nurenburg ring record. These are functional parts outside of the front bumper. Same guy that during Golf R review said it was a sharp and great handling car and 8 out of 8 in performance compared to Civic Type R.....I think he was just on his period during this review.
Doug the type a guy to introduce his girl to his parents and explain her "quirks and features" to his parents
Ralph Wilkin but only if you go to Autotrader.com/oversteer
Ralph Wilkin HAHHAHAHA
0-60 isnt that impressive, plus the petrol tank doesn't last long
Ralph Wilkin
hey parents, this is why bianca is worth $400 an hour.
I have to be honest she's down on education compared to lilly and rachels medical degrees, but what she lacks in smarts, she makes up for in comfort.
I love these cheeks. they're just so snug and grippy, they make you want to sit in them
doug:the civic type R is the most over styled car ever
HUMMER H2:hold my fake vents
wtf hahahaha nice one🤣
😂😂😂👊👊👊
Still rather have a Hummer. And this is an ex HFP rep
i own a h3
Toyota Supra (A90)
Immagine being a Honda rep and inviting this man to the first public impression and to get publicity on the car and he completely roast your new car
Well yeah, better make better next time...
I would never invite him back! Period!
@@fsvideos-rcbut it is by far the best car of its kind. Ever. This aged like milk.
@@adriansoul7223 huh..... what
@@srr1887 HEs right pretty much every other review of this car was great. its a k series motor with 4 doors that has similiar track times as the m3s..... value is still sitting above msrp even with 50k+ miles.
Doug's the kind of guy to offer commentary on style and what's cool while wearing his dad's summer wardrobe year round.
this had me dying lol
Never ever getting invited to a Honda press release.. check!
Thats why i watch this. The honesty. Not just the good things or the manufacturer crap.
elukok it's the only one out of the golf r. Sti and rs to produce actual downforce. He's really misinformed.the others just try to reduce lift.
West Senkovec After seeing this piece of trash...honestly, who the F cares.
"Civic Type R’s design was ‘very focused on aerodynamics.’ It produces more downforce than its FK2 predecessor, but also 3% less drag overall at high speed. Honda claims it is the only hot hatch in the C-segment which produces no lift whatsoever, only downforce."
Shit load of other websites confirm the same thing
www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/honda/honda-civic-type-r-2017-review/
Who cares their cars are boring and shitty!
Doug is the type of guy that got beat in a street race with a 95 Honda Civic and never forgot it.
LOL FACTS
So accurate ... this car must strike a nerve for him
Exactly
true story
It looks ugly 😂
Everything is fun and happiness until Doug make a review of your favorite car
Doug made my favorite car even better since there was features I didn't even know of that made it awesome (Lexus LC)
Rayan Asref really ? What do you do ?
Take it with a grain of salt. The guy doesn't even know what an EQ is.
Hes an amature who cares what he says
bob barker yet you come here to watch his videos. Lmao 🤣
Aerodynamics: exist*
Doug: wait, that’s illegal
I would like your comment, but your profile picture is an Alfa Romeo
Aerodynamics or out of factory ricing ?
@@OmicronWeaponry I mean the type r was made with track in mind the smallest boxy line or humps make a huge difference .. why do you think track cars look soo" rice "lol
@@vibindoe5270 track car ? Did you watch the video mate ? Every curve and vent is purely for cosmetics in this overpriced ricebox
@Pro-Facts Anti-BS wait a minute . The ep3 is probably one of the ugliest civics to date .. and shit 5mp more in a corners and being able to handle it cuts time of your laps ..
Ok Doug, tell us where the Honda hurt you
Honda didn’t hurt him, he just got payed by either Subaru, or Volkswagen, or Ford😂
He just did
@@OmicronWeaponry here’s someone mad they can’t afford one
@Lost Nirvana and not really mad, just upset. Notice how he’s the only car reviewer that hasn’t praised this car😘
@@kameronsabel8252 because it's not worth praising, this thing just looks hideous on the road 😑
Doug the type of guy who gives his wife a Doug score
i'm down to learn all her quirks and features
Once again the same exact joke was used in other videos. Ha. ha.
3 marks in the weekend category
Classic... you actually made me laugh. Great simple comment!
Rideibility 6 outta 10....
Honda: spends months to make the aerodynamics perfect for this car
Doug: “What are these things”
Perfect? Type "R"etard
@@SlowJoe76 The type R kicks the shit out of everything in the segment in every way aside from an awd launch. Doug fucked this review up and let the crazy ass styling at the time and the quoted numbers manipulate him. He says "it's not up to the level of the STI or RS" when you floor it but... it kills them both from a roll. Ford quoted crank hp, Honda quoted whp. Just saying. I love Doug but this review is a mega fuckup on his part.
I like doug but had to dislike this vid especially @3:00.
LoL the car is total shit.
So apparently aerodynamics = rice
Doug: *complains about aerodynamics on a fwd car*
Also doug: "WoW tHiS cAr HaNdLeS gReAt! WoNdEr WhY!"
You think those stupid aerodynamics affect handling at 40mph?
@@M54B30_fan motor trend was able to get faster lap times in the CTR than the other cars Doug mentioned in the video. That's where the aero matters
@@gr33nspan i mean it’s got like one or two things, but the fake hood vent is... fake. The fake front bumper vents are...fake. The vortech generators do...jack shit. The wing is functional, probably above 95mph. All i’m sayin is a lot of clowns think it is functional from 20mph.
@@M54B30_fan The painfully fake vents up front is all I know that is not doing anything. Everything else is functional aero at high speeds. The hood scoop provides cooling to the engine. Not sure how that qualifies it as fake.
@@gr33nspan my bad you’re right about the hood scoop, damn thing i was reading before said they were fake, but they were wrong. Does cool and lower lift at higher speed because takes air out of engine bay.
The ex Girlfriend of Doug was driving a Honda... thats the reason of this video
Pretty sure Doug's a virgin with a "quirky" dick
@@Chimp.Foo. VErY QUIrkY
his ex either had one of these or a maserati ghibli
I'm pretty sure he already mentioned, that his wife drove the classic Honda NSX.
His wife drives a actual good car not this garbage 😂
I was about to comment on how drunk he sounds in this video, but then I realized I had it on 75% speed.
Lol, he does sound drunk at .75
Havent had a good laugh in a while. Thanks for that!
He sounds like he is on stimulant drugs on 1.25 speed
I changed it to .75 just to see haha and it does
Edit: I'm dying from laughter at .50 speed lol
LOL
swear to god, Doug is the devils advocate. he is constantly saying the opposite of every other reporter just to fuck with them.
I disagree. He'll do paid-off reviews like with the Tesla X and NSX.
He is honest
What every other reporter...so, he has his own opinion...
troll level infiniti
Is there reporter that likes this look?
-Makes fun of goofy fins
-Admires how stable it is off the line
He's such a dork
Personally I think he’s kind of a dipshit
@@Heyoo414 I'm a fan of him and think he's a really cool dude, but he really missed the mark with this video. Like holy shit, how does he get this so completely and utterly wrong?
Aero doesnt mean shit under 60mph fking genius.
@@dvobgo92 love you mommy.
The WRX is a 4 cylinder with a 4 tip exhaust, I don't get why everyone drags on the Type-R for a 3 tip.
Maybe because they're in the middle and are two different sizes so it kind of looks retarded 🤷♂️🤷♂️ .
@@henryherrera9111 bullshit .
Because it’s so quiet, when I bought the car i didn’t like how quiet it was but after a year of driving a it I kinda like how comfortable and quiet it’s when doing road trips and driving the family around.
Henry Herrera it’s okay we all know your lying guy
@@henryherrera9111 how come u just have videos on your type r and not an sti? 😂LMAO "i have an sti"
Doug the type of guy to believe that aerodynamics don’t apply to front wheel drive cars.
not even a challenger hellcat redeye has all that aero... and it tops out @203mph... this thing wont get anywhere near those speeds.. so its just for looks
TheAow4321 have you not seen how brutally the civic type r out corners the hellcat redeye?
@@evan8tor21 Id wager it could outturn the hellcat redeye without all that over the top aero
@@TheAow4321 "just for looks"...Not true. When driving it at high speed you can actually feel the wing plant the car firmly to the road. The wing is big and it really works. The car is extremely stable at high speeds.
@@MsBigtom Its over the top.. its not a hypercar.. I get the same feeling of planted-ness in my scat pack with its little duckbill spoiler. And i can guarantee Ive hit a higher speed in this car than a type r will...
Type R: “If I’m paying for this premium model, I want all the switches. Blank switches are the worst!”
GT350R: “This is a performance car, and the blank switches show that. Blank switches are cool!” lmao
LOL thAT IS SO TRUE XD
Well said.
hahahaha :D funny.
nice catch
How to we make the same comment and yours gets 80 likes
Watching this in 2021 and it’s crazy how bad this review aged
Not really, the car looks ridiculous
@@gandalfsbeard0216 bruh all cars these days looked over styled
@@ACEDshooter bro i saw one of these at a meet it had all the doors open i could see everything this car looks like shit
@@gandalfsbeard0216 That may be the case but it's holding it's value tremendously.
@@TalesFromTheSlumsOfMumbai your opinion. i think they look pretty good. again, my opinion.
Its overstyled and its a manual. I will have it thanks.
Exactly.
Indeed
I think pretty much anything that isn't a briefcase is overstyled for doug
@@ianfitchett2768 so happy I happened to come across this comment. Hilarious
A WRX for me thanks.
You're seriously wondering why a FWD car needs aerodynamic stability in the rear? C'mon, Doug...
Good call
@eric W dude aerodynamics is physics whether you like it or not they have a function
@eric W Maybe that's why it's maybe the fastest car of this class on a track...
@K W are you dumb? You can’t really believe that it does nothing lmao wut
There is no power going to the rear doesn't mean the rear won't come loose.... that's what we call physics
Honda Civic Type R: We knew you were gonna rice it so we did for you anyway.
moesgymmom so if you're only the gym mom, who is Moe's regular mom? What a great ego this one has.. Just had to let me know she's in the gym.
Jearmey Morgan lol salty ass
Adrian TheGoat Soo fucking salty.. you have no idea. Way saltier than anyone affected by Trump Salt Mining LLC.
Jearmey Morgan lmfao bro I can tell your fucking moronic ass is triggered calm down ricer
Adrian TheGoat Lol I'm the moron, yet you're the one making unfounded presumptions about random trolls online 🤷🤷😂😂
Ok bro.. sleep good tonight 😂
Doug, thanks for the actually fairly balanced review of a car you obviously don't love. The only nitpick I'd offer is that the wing, despite "flopping around" when you close the hatchback, can still make downforce. To wit: 1) check out the "floppy" wings on F1 cars in recent seasons. 2) simply by lowering pressure behind the car, the wing could be helping the diffuser under the car work better. I raced a formula car for years and this was something we focused on: not just the wing producing downforce, but its integration into the comprehensive aero approach for the car. Just FYI. Please keep the reviews coming!
I can tell you something for certain: the aerodynamic design of a formula car, of any kind, will have tons more impact on that car's performance than whatever little DRS-style flaps you attach to a Honda Civic. On a basic level, the aero kit on a Civic isn't producing much downforce - particularly not relative to the amount of weight the car itself is putting on the tires. Although a DRS-style system would certainly make a big impact on a car with a more focused aerodynamic concept - say, a hypercar like the Valkyrie, whose entire design concept is founded on leveraging Venturi tunnels and a simple rear wing for backend downforce - it has little to no impact on a car like the Civic. I'm 100% sure that if you strip the Civic Type R's aero pieces off of it, the performance with everything else identical will be the same, if not better thanks to all of that lost weight.
That 0 torque steer is amazing
chemicalcorral not enough torque to torque steer lmao
Thomas Gipson you must not kno shit about cars don't need much torque to torque steer. Not defending the car cuz I don't like it myself. I prefer the focus rs
Torque steer is caused from a difference in length of cv axles. it's really hard to get a car with a larger transaxel engine to not have disproportionally uneven axles in the front, which nets a difference in parasitic loss of each wheel, producing torque steer. That's why it is way more common in FWD cars
Saben Coupland ...well said
Yes it is, and it doesn't compensate for the rest of the car.
TopGear: 2017 Car of the year
Doug: (I hate this car especially the rear wing)
I totally get Doug. The thing might be faster than a Concorde airliner, and more reliable than a Toyota and I couldn't care less, the hideous design ruins it for me.
@@velkovskinikola2 that doesnt make it a bad car. It is the king of hatches
@@velkovskinikola2 ua-cam.com/video/Ex9QjZ-IhNA/v-deo.html
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@anna dworska Clarkson is known for taking silent bribes
Doug the type of dude to cover his paper during a school test so you can't copy
sumrandombiker 4279 You're the type of dude that needs to copy. 😂😂😂
Brandon Cummings
Hahaha almost pissed myself
Haha.
sumrandombiker 4279 u funny bruh 😂😂😂
Home school test
I guess Honda really knows their owners, so they riced out the Civic straight from the factory
You probably don't even know what a jdm car is.
@@aftisafterme9736 I do actually, JDM stands for Japanese Domestic Market
@UC_P1AsXo4MZffdS6zHozaEQ it means Japan Domestic Market you dumbass.
@@SkylabBeats Well said!
The one thing I hate most, on any car, is fake carbon fiber.
Don't forget a spoiler on FWD
Christ help me A wing still serves a purpose on a FWD car. Sure not a slow one because you're not gonna get up to speeds where it's necessary but it still provides downforce to the rear wheels which prevents the back end from swinging out like with most hatchbacks like this
+Anthony Fulton ok got it
Most "carbon fiber" you see is actually fake. If it has perfect weaves seen thru the epoxy, it's more for show. Real carbon fiber has really dozens of irregular patches as seen thru a clear epoxy.
Tucsonan Dude bullshit. Look at a Pagani, or the door sills of the Porsche 918. It's uniform and 100% real. If it's irregular, it is poorly laid.
"It's there for style if you could call it that" - Doug said in his khaki new balances and white socks
TheFeelsPolice lol
TheFeelsPolice he should have splurged for the overpriced Nikes made by a child in Southeast Asia
It wasn't a joke about the price of anything, it was just about the look. Roberto got it
hahahahha
Just shoes man, they don't cost 35 grand.
Why is Honda proud of the fact that it's $2000 odd bucks cheaper than the competition? If this car was AWD the starting price point would cost the same as a WRX STI or Focus RS.
But can your Imprezza OR Focus RS go 7 mins around the 'Ring?
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Guessed so.
ring times aren't impressive and probably are inconsistent
diffrent drivers
different road conditions
diffrent tires
not all the shifts were 100% perfect
the ring is a like a math problem with 160 variables
also subarus ra got under 7 minutes
(i can't speak for ford but hey, the rs has a drift mode)
Nimdonomuskid ring times are impressive its just when a Honda civic kills it everyone bases ring times like they dont matter. The ring is the longest and most physically demanding track used for performance testing. Yes they use different drivers but they are all hired professionals paid to do one thing, set the fastest production lap in whatever car. Most lap times are warm summer days where tires will have more grip. Each car must use the OEM tire which have to bee street legal. It's a 7 - 8 min long track with a fast car, obviously every shift won't be 100%. And its was the STI Type RA NBR which is not even street legal that set a time of 6:57
For the run, Honda used a pre-production model, which is said to have been "technically representative of production specification".
The car had a full floating roll cage for safety reasons, which did not provide any additional rigidity to the body frame according to Honda, and to compensate for the added weight, the rear seats and Display Audio system were removed. Moreover, the Nurburgring record for front-wheel drive production cars was achieved using street legal, track-focused tires.
Not bashing it, but just mentioning that it wasn't even a production car that beat the time..
Did you mean 7 minutes and 43 seconds?
Doug the type of guy to review one of the fastest, best handling production FWD cars of all time and say Honda "tried too hard."
Doug is clearly not a Honda guy. Blank Switches are for nitrous switch, and neon underglow switch. The type R is screaming HOT IMPORT NIGHTS lol
you mean nights alone without a woman.lol
Imo it looks like a rally car.. it would have been pretty sweet if it was AWD
Thank you😂 Doug clearly needs some help
But focus rs is faster than honGay Type R
@@Utubesuxmycock you say it like Asian girls are a prize 🤢
Doug be the type of guy who listens to “jimmy eat world”
If you’re listening WOOOAAHHHOHHHOHHOHOHHHHH
And sings it back
So tell me what do I need (what do I need) Whoa-oh! Whoa-oh!
And immediately after lost the opportunity to pun with 98 degrees...
Hey, anyone can get into Jimmy Eat World. "It just takes some time."
Damn Doug, who hurt you? I get that you're allowed to be critical as a critic but you're a car guy for god's sake, why are you bashing Aero components on a car designed for racing on a track?
"What are these things??" They're called vortex generators, and they are on the roof to funnel air to the spoiler. Yes, a FWD track car has a spoiler because, as a car enthusiast you should know this, *weight transfer* exists. And I love how you *only* mentioned the fake vents and never even bothered to explain the functional vents for the hood and for the wheel wells.
Sure, let's talk performance. A FWD car has a slower launch than AWD cars, wow thanks for that insight. It is a full second slower, but you even fail to mention that on the Nurburgring it is almost 15 seconds faster than the Focus RS and the STi. Honda did not build this car with straight-line speed in mind, maybe that's why the didn't feel the need to tout it as a selling point to you.
Maybe he got his ass kicked by a type R
Finally someone who knows what he is talking about!
I was gonna talk about the vortex generators as well if this comment did not exist already.
This comment should be at the top!
And forgot to mention that the third central and smaller exhaust pipe has its purpose as well! It is not there for design only.
It's easy to criticise and talk shit even if you don't know all the facts.
Really? Racing on a track?, I can walk faster than that car...I’ll stick to my cls amg
@@unkameatgoodbar2315 the civic type R was 16 seconds faster on the Nürnberg-Ring than the CLS AMG but good for you, buddy 👍🏼
@@ClayChapman0 civic type r 0 60 5.8 sec, cls 55 amg 0-60. 4.2,stock,but every one that’s tried to run me in a slow civic type r I embarrass their ass. 638hp 647 ft lbs torque, slightly modified and can turn it up to 750hp...only Honda beating me is my bike
It honestly just sounded like you had something against this car? Was it too much to handle and killed one of your cousins or what 😂😂😂
The volume thing is trash I hate using it everyday 🤦🏻♂️. I don’t get how they kept it and actually didn’t get rid of it till 2020
The car is absolutely laughable. A Ferrari is not even as close overstyled as that civic, and has like 700x the performance.
Too much to handle? Sounds like it's a sled. Slowwwwwwwwwwww
I think it looks alright. I'd like to see more car manufacturers be this brave with their car's aesthetics. Exotic styling doesn't have to be exclusive to exotic cars.
Limit Oh God no!! I do not want other car manufacturers making cars as ugly as this one. 👎
You'd rather everything looked like a generic streamlined box then.
Limit Did I say that? No. I said I am with the crowd who wants a fast car that doesn't look like it's for 12 year olds or call the attention of police at every red light.
If you don't like it don't buy it. Simple. Your taste is your taste, but you said you didn't want manufacturers to make them which would deny others that choice. You can't force everyone to have the same taste as you.
Limit I didn't say people had to have the same taste as me. However, bold design does not mean a car has to be butt ugly. Honda seemed to not get that memo. The Focus RS is the perfect blend of this. It stands out but isn't obnoxiously over styled.
My Sti wing on my '16 wrx actually probably vibrates worse than that when i close it lol
CboysTV ayyy cboys
The wing on my STI bounced really bad until I put the stiffies on lol
I got a stiffie too
CboysTV buy a real carbonfiber
CboysTV actually, air flows "better" when the wing isn't 100% rigid due to the nature of turbulence
Doug is the type of guy to use " air quotes " nine times in 15 minutes.
09victoryrc is the type of youtuber to count all the “air quotes” in a video
YES
09victoryrc god damn is he annoying
09victoryrc 9 times?
He’s a dweeb and his voice and mannerisms make me wanna step on his nuts
No matter what he says, Honda Civic Type R is still my fev. Love it...
Doug saids all cars look the same but he doesn’t like it cause it looks different
Doug looks like fiat punto
Omg that's so true
thats not how you say it. it should be "Doug is the type of guy that looks like a Fiat Punto"
MudgateBronn nah
WEAHGAGDV
It comes pre-riced from the factory.
markycupko what does ‘rice mean?
Rain Norris if you don't know what ricing a car is, you aren't a car enthusiast
thats just bs, you are not a car enthusiast if youre not willing to explain your hobby to others.
How shall new comers get into this when everyone would think like you did...
@Rain Norris:
rice means Race Inspired Cosmetic Enhancements but the meaning has expanded to absurd performance mods like a huge exhaust system for your 4 cyl, that doesnt even produce enough exhaust to use it or adding a giant wing on the back, that is not designed for your car and so does not add any downforce but adds air resistance making your car actually go slower. It has become a meme for overtuned absurd modded cars that shall look like race cars but are modded cheap and dont perform. People even started to call bad paintjobs or a bad fitting bodykit "rice" just because it was a bad job done, something a race car would never have because money is not an issue there. just google for more info. ;)
This car can handle better and accelerate faster than whatever you might have now. And those bodykits and wing is there for lots of reasons.
Platinum Nath I got a triumph speed triple 1050 so I doubt that. Also you can't really complain, that people question this design...
Thumbs up for Doug's new haircut. Wardrobe makeover next??
The biggest quirk in the video are the mismatched socks. They really accentuate the new balances.
I just love how doug does not give a shit about what *people think* or *how famous the car is* he just roasted the car and he shows you the most craziest things that you dont even notice and he just makes you laugh so hard . One of the best youtubers right here XD
MineStar101 and how he ignores all the statistical facts that make this car so much better than he portrays it to be.
00Si Andrew
and you're ignoring all the obvious drawbacks this car had compared to its competition.
MineStar101 like those blank buttons. Wtf are they there for?
the exhaust note or the lack of is a surprise. the car screams loud. the rs sounds amazing down shifting and hearing those pops. i am sure the honda fans will replace or mess with it to get the right sound out of it. also i seen many reviews and everyone is kissing tbr type r butt other then Doug. tell it as it is
Yeah this car is worse than the golf r, focus rs, and that new BMW m series hatch
Doug looking fine as hell with that fresh cut
Auto Autopsy i wonder if he trimmed the pubes too
Nick Ito Check out his column on autotrader to find out lol
Auto Autopsy I garauntee you the carpet matches the drapes, it's aerodynamic.
I'm gonna cum
well that escalated quickly.
"We should have paid him what he asked" -Honda
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my phone BAHAHAHA
Lmao
Lmao
I don't get it.
*Car accelerates like crazy*
Dougs face: *V-TEC just kicked in yo.*
"Doug" is half of "Doughnut"
Dougy was cranky during this review 😆
No he wasn't
Jmelgar like you
He didn't have his chai tea that day
Jmelgar no the fuck he wasn't
@@whayoajredyt7658
Yes the fuck you are butthurt yo
Hahahaha lmfao
A car that a 40 yrs old can afford but won't buy because it looks like a car for a 16 yr old, which by the way can't afford its price. Car looks ridiculously over designed.
Honda is just responding to all the ricers who riced their old civics, they will be buying this like crazy since it already comes with terrible body kit.
Jose Blanco hes 29
ya thats why the silver spooned millenial gets his 40 yr old dad to buy it for him
40-16=24 which is the targeted age
It is because you dont know nothing about this car... type R is the car people between 30 - 50 years old people like to buy, this is an exclusive car... This car is simply amazing, if you dont like exotic style buy a Focus Rs or a Golf GTi, you can go on the road and people think it is a 1.4tdi...
When RCR said “The youth will go to war over the Civic Type R” this comment section only further proves his points
This is the comment I was looking for 🤣
Seems fair, considering the quality difference between Honda and the other brands, which Doug "forgot" to mention. But hey, at least he knows to bitch about the same thing as every other reviewer with any other car: The interior plastics. As if interior plastics would be the cause of Subaru head gaskets blowing up
HOLY CRAP So many people got triggered from this video
Jo Awesome watch flyingato 'arguement' response
Can you send the link because nothing showed up
@Sassy The Sasquatch It does increase horse power believe it or not. The faster you get the exaust out, the better because pressure build up decreases horse power. If you like, I will send you an article that explains it more in detail.
@Sassy You got to remember Doug reviews alot of cars that have buttons with different purposes.
The hatchback boy racer people got hurt you know xD
Street Speed 717 tomorrow: Here's Why Doug DeMuro Is Wrong And The 2017 Honda Civic Type R Is the King of Hot Hatches
AHHAHAHA
Beef Stew ✊🏽
lol!
If somebody made a video about how he's smart, he'd make a video about how they're wrong and that he's a complete fucking moron. And for once, he'd actually have a valid point.
I live in Montreal
people riced civics...
now , honda does it for them
Respect FreeSpeech lol mad
I was about to agree until I saw your subscriptions
OMI WANKHEDE it needs a fart can tho
Respect FreeSpeech still FWD
Respect FreeSpeech yeah and torque steer that will want to kill you 🤷🏻♂️ better off doing the same thing to a wrx... and the wrx will still be faster
I honestly love the look of the type r🤷♂️
@Jonathan Losito The Honda looks like this on purpose
Ive never seen a normal person seeing a type R and saying "Wow that is a beautiful car". This thing looks like a childs toy, I cant believe how a grown human being can drive around in that xD
@@basil5863 I am 48 and drive 2020 type r everyday and I love it , I don't think you have a car.
@@aussieebayfashion I didnt mean to be disrespectful. If you like the car and how it drives, thats what matters.
@@basil5863 finally someone with their own opinion but still respects other peoples opinions in this comment section (ty)
"High speed stability on a fwd car?"
Yes, because rear or front wheel drive traction matters
He doesn’t think that aerodynamics apply to fwd cars
@@EntropyUntouchable 320 bhp is not powerful enough? have you ever heard about high speed cornering?
@mason jokinen Nobody thinks that
Drak Václav torque steer bye
ryban oyd lol
Doug DeMuro. Ruining your favorite cars one car at a time
If this is your favorite car then idk what to tell you
@@stefanbondeson6505 You've definitely never driven one. It's the best DD ever built. There isn't a close second. I've owned or used the rest of the segment. The CTR killed it.
@Belastingdienst dodge Challenger hellcat redeye
@@shane864 there's so many other better and nicer options out there idk why this Honda Civic would be ur dream
Stefan Bondeson ehh hellcat red eye is not that great , I’d just stick to the regular hellcat.
seems like you made your opinion before looking at the car.
I think you looked at it. Thats why he said it LOOKS ugly and he’s right
@CrazyLegsMcGee looks like Honda gave a kid a pen and paper to design a cool "race car"
@CrazyLegsMcGee clearly not since you replied....
@CrazyLegsMcGee no I'm saying because you're so manly and masculine and an absolute Chad I'm asking why did you reply then if you don't care so much. It's okay to care sometimes my dude I'm happy to change my mind if you can convince me but the way you're tryna act cool or whatever is pretty pathetic
@CrazyLegsMcGee "aww were you trying to hurt my feelings?" I guess I did. No need to lie on the internet aswell bud
Doug: *revs the engine*
UA-cam: [Laughter]
Golf gti has 4 cylinders and 4 exhaust pipes.
Mark Grecko rice
with this logic, the Civic has just twins.
It has double twins
@@WWMMWWWMMMWWWWMMMM are you stupid thats not what a ricer is
But it has four exhaust tips not exhausts
That Honda Odyessy you compared with your old Aston has a better exhaust note that this
A MINIVAN, YIKES!
Charles lol
I got a Toyota Sienna van because a rental company rented my original car out from underneath me. It was a major upgrade, and no shit, it was a pretty decent V6. Almost 300hp in a minivan was surprising.
Lol :D TIME FOR DAAAAAAD
*insert v8 burble from a 70s cadilac...
I dont care how bad it looks and sounds when it can set a nurburgring world record.
But if it looks this bad, I don't care if it holds the record of quickest way to get you laid. I'd have to tell people I owned the ugliest car ever. People would see me get out of it. She'd have to be Kate Beckinsale (without make-up) with Gemma Arterton's tits before I'd consider buying one.
invisiblekid99 hahaha for real it’s no like anyone would do a good time on this car, ugly rice out over price, I’ll smoke any type r with my focus RS
@@Coraza17 im not quite sure you know the meaning of rice tho....
that has always been the point of hot hatches, they have always been cheaply built, but they are as fun to drive as a porsche or lambo because of how much is invested in performance
@@Coraza17 Not sure any Hot Hatch would get even the likes of Jason Momoa laid off looks alone.
I don’t like Honda’s either but damn idk anyone that slams their trunk that hard any spoiler would rattle a bit being slammed that hard
Worst car reviews
Totally disagree with this guy testing the spoiler by slaming the hatch hard and claiming it cant push the car downward. The parachutes arent hard either but still can slow down a person from falling 120mph till 17mph, cant it? Its not about soft or hard material on directing the air flow.
you're dumb, if u want me to explain i can but i don't feel like typing it out
You-Câu Channel because it's a parachute and this is a car spoiler. the airflow is different, and they are created with different purpose.
The spoiler is supposed to bounce so that the elastic force of its size doesnt have to concentrate on one part of the trunk. It disperses across the wing. My STI wing shakes too
BriefCarBreakdown this guy is just plain stupid and a hater
Benjamin sides #realtalk
That doesn't make any goddamn sense lol. What's wrong with just reinforcing it so it doesn't shake lol
You're saying if it didn't bend it would fall off? Sounds like a quality car. lol
Benjamin Sides hondas are ass
I hope your hair cut has bumper to bumper warranty.
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hahahahaha
Car And Driver tested it : "Here, though, are the headline facts from this instrumented test: Zero to 60 mph in 4.9 seconds, 1.02 g of lateral grip, and the ability to stop from 70 mph in a Porsche-like 142 feet-in a tweaked, front-wheel-drive commuter car with 61.8 percent of its 3111 pounds resting on the front wheels. So, yeah, extremely solid."
Set a class record at the Nurburgring.
It's not a drag car. If you want one of those buy a 600+ HP pony car.
It sounds like a GT5 vacuum cleaner
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dlb83082 🤣
I like this car but your right about that
rally
Dual bag
most turbo cars that are also practical daily drivers have that dull whooshing noise instead
Honestly like the look of the type r
Looks like a $20k car
Latin Ace I mean it is technically lol. It’s a 18k$ car with a lot of performance put into it making it cost more but it is still a civic
I’m sorry
Me too! I can't believe people think it's ugly. When I first saw the new Civic designs that was the first time I ever wanted to own one.
Latin Ace what’s wrong with a 20k car asshole
Damn I was going to let Doug film with my Bugatti but he didn't put his email in the video!
Baseballdude19 dayam
1:39 those are for racing in *reverse* duhhh
9:51
So, you're telling me a FWD car is slower _off the line_ than an AWD car?!
Kyle Just Kyle if it’s an FWD electric or hybrid car vs an AWD fuel car, then maybe not but if they have the same type of engine, then AWD is faster off the line than FWD
@@Vasil-of2ki Yeah, no shit.
Kyle Just Kyle well there’s gonna be a lot of wheelspin @306hp
Doug use to be 6' 4" now he is 6' 3"
Lol I've heard him say anywhere between 6'2"-6'4"
Doug is 5'6
He tall that's all that matters
JoeEastern noooo
JoeEastern 4:21
Honda went out of their way to appeal to millennials with this one. It’s completely riced out. And I’m a Honda fan myself. I miss the S2000, CRX, and Prelude. These were classy, practical and fully functional models.
K 20Z 2nd gen crx was so fun. It didn’t weigh anything.
Baby boomers suck a lot more than millenials
Honda built a car for those who want it but can't afford it. Not for those who can afford it but not want it due to the looks.
go drive one and shut the fuck up. the new type r is great for the money and for being a FWD.
Hey old man, you should move on loving old cars. welcome to 2018
I simply love that car. I never understood the hate about it. :/
luckily most of it is explained in this video
It just looks juvenile in my opinion, there’s a lot going on for a 300hp hatch
No performance car should ever have an electronic parking brake.
Vegaspsycho thank you! Finally someone said it. Stsly a heavy ass electric brake in a "fast car" wtf
Vegaspsycho deal breaker for me tbh
Vegaspsycho how much are you going to use the parking brake on a fwd car? You guys weren't buying the fucking care anyway... Don't give me this "deal breaker tbh" bullshit
"for me" indicating personal preference. and you use the parking brake on an fwd as much as you would any car
geryl vinoya for parking. Parking brake. Not sure what kind of driving you do in a fwd car that having a button instead of a handle on your brake makes it a deal breaker
Looks like Doug is going to be banned from Honda press events... 😂😂
I have a 19 type R and love it. It has parking sensores and rest of buttons , the design and aerodynamics are functional
i love mine too
championship white
my favorite part is when girls get in it they instantly blow me!
@anna dworska well as they say mileage may vary lol.
@anna dworska also every girl that has been in it..asian, white and black. have all blown me. so i think im doing pretty good lol
@@Utubesuxmycock what the f
@@Utubesuxmycock you need help
After I drive my wife around I’m gonna give it a Doug score
let's see a "riced out" car break a nurburgring record
Luis Garcia it actually did
Luis Garcia this thing lapped the nurburgring faster than a gen 1 Audi R8 wym? 😂😂
I think he was being sarcastic lmao
Will Bao I was being sarcastic hence the quotation marks on "riced out"
Will Bao thanks for noticing
"don't put a knob where you expect a volume to be"
-Doug DeMuro
Well, the thing is, this car isn't marketed to someone who has a Viper and used to have a Vantage. It's pretty much your average Joe's fancy hot hatch. A little bit of customizing might make it a nice little track car.
Inspiration _ did you hear what he said about the aftermarket segment around 13:10? It's still only front wheel drive, how much more power is going to transfer through those wheels?
You'd have better luck removing things off this, or just starting with a better (not fwd) platform altogether
FWD vehicles can't have more than 400hp, at least to be drivable.
They kept it FWD because there is a tradition about it...
But it really kills the perfomance that it could have, but it's a very well made car and they did everything to try to avoid "FWD car problems".
1:35 - 1:38 still gets me 3 years later. It's my favorite DD line - ever..... "lovely"
So many dislikes
Golden Duck I noticed too lol
Golden Duck All he does is shit on the car for what it's not supposed to be. It's like reviewing a Mazda 3 and shitting on it cuz it can't go rock crawling.
#HondaFanboys
So many butt hurt Honda fan boys LOL
#ButtHurtHondaFanBoy RS3 for life
If you are looking to turn up the volume and you turn up the heat instead, more than once.....your name must be Doug
or my ex, who did it constantly when she was in the passenger seat
he slammed that trunk into another dimension
Well, this didn't age well. The Type R is a masterful car that is as loved as any hot hatch. I bought my 2021 CTR a month ago and it's amazing.
@suli uhm no this car is track focused , also have u heard of aerodynamics ?
In these comments: kids arguing about a car they will never own.
rcguy8038 And probably cant afford lol.
Oh they will when it is 10-15 years old, and all clapped out. Then they can put 3 fart cans on the back, and rev the piss out of it annoying everyone for 2 sq miles.
Michael Hayes
You just perfectly described every Honda owner ever!
LMFAO!!!
Really, every Honda owner ever? You seem to forget that Honda makes the Odyssey.
I bet you're right. lol
it's a 30 k car not a half million car
Antonis Mamais So the 25k civic has all the buttons missing, a parking sensor, less useless plastic body parts, and 5 seats. all those things that he didn't like are on the cheaper model so he's not comparing it to some super expensive car.
And it looks horrible, with bad design decisions.
Antonis Mamais Dealers are asking 50k+ for these, at that price you might as well get an M2
Antonis Mamais these are being marked up in orange county 10k more
I wish the styling was more chilled out.
It's a Type R dude, it's made to stand out. :)
Justin David you mean stick out, like a sore thumb...
Don't worry. I believe the opposite will happen with this car when it comes to aftermarket body kits. You will start seeing kits that tone it down as with before you'd see kits to increase the gaudiness/aggressiveness. Give it a few months and you'll see better and cleaner front and rear bumpers being offered by tuners.
Doug is the kind of guy who likes gaming chairs over any other seats in any other car
Doug should re-review the Civic Type R
agreed
Why?
Fuenf Bart tbh he had no fucking clue what he was talking about with this car. I’m not even a jdm fan but Honda came out swinging with this one.
@@jakehart7617I'm a die hard Honda fan & I disagree. If they had made a 2 door hatch version of this instead of the 4 door crossover-roach looking thing. It would've been great.
Driv300mph he JUST did!
I'm not the only one who thinks this car is ugly as hell 😊
The Stig's German Cousin The real problem is that it's just too much going on. The ideal type R is the European one from 2015. This design is too bloated
Looks good for a track car but not what you would want to drive as a daily. Same goes for performance.
The Stig's German Cousin i sadly agree
i wish it was 2 door
The Stig's German Cousin the real civic type r is ek9
If some of you are pissed about the review or feel it's biased in someway is because that is the whole point of a review. You are supposed to watch several to conclude your final thoughts of the car
This dude sounds like he was rooting for this car to fail before even seeing it or driving it
But all of his complaints were grounded in how it looks and drives
I thought it’s been proven the r is faster than sti.
No, it isn't trust me
@AlasTVRisHere Impreza isn't just faster in 0-60 time, but also in 1/4 mile. I also believe it would beat the civic in most tracks, for example in Tsukuba. The civic has only higher mid speed and top speed, but other than that Impreza is prettier, sounds better, overall faster and more exciting to drive thanks to AWD.
@AlasTVRisHere sorry for late reply. Idk on what kind of track did motortrend tested it, but I just can't see a STI loosing against FK8 on Tsukuba or in 1/4 mile. STI has AWD and shorter gears, so it has advantage in short straights and small tracks. FK8 could only win in longer straights, and longer tracks, because it has better power/weight ratio and longer gears. And even if it's slower there, it still looks better, sound better and it's more fun to drive...Honda is my favorite car brand, but the sports cars they are making recently are just terrible..I think this Civic is at least much better than the new NSX, only the design is terrible and overall it doesn't have that Type R "aura" anymore, like other Type R cars. But that's just my opinion. If you own this car and you like it, I'm glad for it.
It’s quicker than the sti. Rs and golf. The only thing they have over it beating it to 60 by less than a second.
@@Fadic4 1/4 mile and smaller tracks, don't forget about that.
So many Honda owners hating on Doug for not drooling over a barely special car
Like honestly they are so mad. These type of car company's are about saving money an not putting any real emotion or are barely trying now a days. also car standards are a pain but i mean, this isn't a hot hatch like it use to be. it sounds like a stock civic lmao.... like we at least want a tuned sounding car. this car is beat by a hyundai with less power. xD
Well this car does only cost 35,000...
no, but he had an ax to grind obvious whether you are a Honda fan or not. Anyone who is supposed to be an automotive journalist should know by now a lot the car's design is what yielded the Nurenburg ring record. These are functional parts outside of the front bumper. Same guy that during Golf R review said it was a sharp and great handling car and 8 out of 8 in performance compared to Civic Type R.....I think he was just on his period during this review.
@@TheRebuilt1 Honda Type R doesn't hold the Nurburgring FWD record, the Renault Megane smoked it by almost 4 seconds
Honda fans are triggered....haha
Jair Pantoja, you never even met his mom!
Jair Pantoja TRIGGERED AS FUCK!!😂😂
Fuck you hater get a fucking tractor put a turbo on it go to sleep shut the fuck up play minecraft on a alley
All these salty Chinese car nerds lmao
Chinese? xD
Umm.. That 0-60 is pretty impressive for a fwd, stock hatch. No idea why he compared it's acceleration to 4wd hatches?
Because they’re in a similar price range and they’re all hot hatches