Honestly, it was an oversight, so thanks for mentioning it. We managed 18.1L/100KM (13 US MPG) while towing the 7K-LB trailer over a distance of 40 kms (25 miles).
@@EasyMoneySG Honestly I'm not too concerned about MPG's and 0-60 on a truck. Plus I rarely if ever tow, I just need a decent payload for camping. Main reason I would want a V8 is just the simple reliability of a naturally aspirated engine. Less stress an parts and less things to break/ maintain/ replace etc. Less parts to be damaged in a front end collision too. And...as an old school truck guy I just prefer the sound of a true V8... not the fake V8 noise some manufacturers play in the door speakers lol
@@TheAntinowherelane sorry, but those 5.7 engines are a pain in the butt when they break. Ask any tech at my dealership, they hate working on those almost as much as the 2GR FE. But both are really reliable.
@@penvon I have been to 2 different dealers with msrp build sheets from the Toyota website. Both dealers basically laughed at the online build quote I provided telling me that they will be charging a $10-15k “market adjustment” on most models. I am on my 3rd Tundra with over 400k miles between them all. If Toyota USA allows dealers to treat loyal customers like this…… I am currently driving my last Toyota.
Good job on the reviews! Being Canadian, I love having reviewers showing Canadian vehicles and packages (Which are very different than what is offered in the US - This SR5 trim is a prime example - no 14’’ screen available on SR5 trim) and also love to have references in KM and L/100. Very refreshing! Just ordered the exact truck - SR5 TRD Off Road, Crewmax with 6.5’ bed. Can’t wait to get it this spring!
I really like your reviews, especially this one. Very pragmatic and your natural enthusiasm shows, but not all the smug hype like other reviewers. Keep up the great work!
great review as always. Steven, you and your Dad and your brother make a good team for testing. Looking fwd to seeing more of your brother in future vids.
Great review. So many times only the top level trucks are reviewed. God to see a work truck reviewed. I always use a weather tech bed mat, which is a must for this truck
I just ordered one, I ordered the same exact truck in army green except mine will have the 5.5' bed. I cant wait to see it! I have been told it should arrive Feb-Mar.
Yes, a 100 miles on the highway with a 26 foot camper, loaded up with gear and water in the tanks, plus an ATV in the truck bed. Then go have a fun weekend mudding. Actually, can I just borrow that truck?
@@RigiLiquid945 with a 7000lb GVW RV is pushing around 900-950lbs tongue weight. With a 200lb male in the truck you’re not Hanna have the payload for it 😂.
It would be great to review 5 people who switched to a 2022 Tundra from Ford or GM, and then review 5 people switched from Tundra to a Ford or GM. Real world comparisons.
@@Baebon6259 I waited 13 to buy my 2020 after owning my 07 250k miles and only replaced the starter very reliable trucks. Planning on 10 plus years again for my 2020.
Stephen, What a relief that they sent a 'basic' truck to test for a change. Maybe some day you might get one with an actual 8 foot bed. As others have said, only time will tell if the reliability of the new model matches the 5.7.
Impossible for Twin Turbos to be as reliable as naturally aspirated engines. If anyone says otherwise then I suggest that Toyota up the warranty to 200,000 kms on the Turbos. 😃
@@Thankyou_3 Based on the normally aspirated engines of past, those were done before 150k... This ain't the past. Moving parts and electronics are moving parts and electronics. All engines have them, moving parts, may as well make them work better. There's nothing to say turbos are bad, otherwise vehicles that demand longevity wouldn't have them, see commercial trucking, See diesel engines... The turbos aren't the weak point until somebody does their own tinkering under the hood and fries them from tuning, or something different than originally engineered.
@@brentworls8509 Those are some very valid points, let's revisit this discussion in 2036 to see how the 2022 Tundra V6 and V6 Hybrid are holding up against the 2021 Tundra 5.7.
@@rightlanehog3151 I think the trade-off of any perceived or expected maintenance issues is outweighed by the benefits in efficiency. They aren't all that hard to change out if something does happen, and my 2017 F-150 2.7 with 118,000 miles runs like new, and gets over 600 miles out of a tank. Turbos shouldn't be a deal breaker, at least if they go bad, the truck probably still drives. I think the transmissions with 8-10-more speeds are the newest weak point, moreso than the turbos when used to the limits.
I have no doubt that the 2022 Tundra is a fine truck. I've watched 2-3 dozen videos now on it. With that said, there is nothing about it that makes me regret buying a 2020 Tundra Limited TRD Off Road. I bought that truck for $42,450. There is no way you can touch that price. It was not just the reliability that made the Tundra such a great choice but the price. It was so much cheaper than the competition for equally equipped features. The entry cost on these new Tundra's is enormous and I just could not swallow $50,000 US for a SR5 truck.
Different market. I was easily get 13-15k off on f150 until early this year. Now i can get 2k off if I am lucky. You keep your truck or sell it for more than you paid and buy this new gen tundra at msrp if you like it. I drove my suv for 2yrs and sold for more than what i paid..
I took a 15 SR5 CM, added a Magnuson supercharger, American racing headers, 4.88, rear posi, shell camper/roof rack, 46 gal gas tank, amp steps and dual sub stereo and icon suspension and dap tuning for under 55k with labor. Best deal is diy.
@@Chefjjdecker you are still missing out on ride quality and cabin noise. I have owned(personal, work) every single half ton and some 3/4 and 1ton. I believe tundra will outlast domestic trucks but tundra gives you the worst ride quality and noise(engine, road, wind).
Actual payload is probably much higher, but if they say that it is lower, then they can deny liability and warranty if someone was over the stated payload and had an issue
I like that the Tundra is sporting the same mustachios as your dad. Is Toyota compensating him for inspiring the design? I’d have liked to see how the longer wheelbase and bed would hinder it on your trail system. I know it’s not the primary function for that config but it still had the TRD Off Road badge on it so it’d be interesting to see it tested.
@@ALMX5DP for sure. 1,000 pounds of barrel, 500 pounds of dude, and 700+ pounds of tongue weight puts them quite a bit over the payload. Not that people won’t be doing it.
OK I really like your channel better than your previous channel. I believe this particular model is the exact same horsepower but more torque. Also not sure at the end your chart said that the TRD pro was faster than the TRD SR5. I thought the pro would be a little slower. Either way I have a 2021 TRD LTD. and I love it. Thanks for the info
Great review fellas, the collaboration with dad who is super knowledgeable is fantastic. Now the Tundra is Just another great competitor in a class full of great competition. Nice haircut mate!
@@jeremyscaggs7315 Another what 100k to go before you break in that engine LOL. The 4.7L V8's are the ones hitting the million miles too. With regular maintenance shouldn't be that hard to do. I think the first million mile tundra the owner reportedly had a transmission failure around 800k, heck most of today's trucks don't get past 200k before they need a transmission, and many need an engine by then too LOL. I'm going to have to step up into 3/4 ton territory here soon I think. The Tundra is rated for I think 6500-7000lbs towing capacity, I'm pretty much at that with my car trailer/tractor/implements ugg.
@@jeremyscaggs7315 Right now nothing, not paying ridiculously overinflated prices for a used truck...and it won't be anything close to new...I don't figure on buying anything newer than a mid 90's F250 for no more use than I have for an HD truck I'm not going to buy new LOL.
New Tundra looks promising!! New 2022 Silverado and Sierra out in March 2022! Looks like they made some great changes! Hope you guys will be reviewing those as well!
Fellas, fantastic content, but PLEASE keep an eye on your load! At 8:15, you’ll start to see the barrels sliding around in the bed. As always, a great video!!!! I just don’t want to see someone get hurt or you guys get in trouble for “donating” a barrel to someone’s front bumper
Great review as always, Nice truck looks like Toyota done their homework as expected, it’s a shame that Toyota doesn’t offer at least another option for the rear differential like a 3:73, 4:10 or the 4:30 for the guys pulling the heavy campers etc through the mountains and aren’t as worried about fuel mileage because everyone knows there’s a trade off between mileage and performance when towing close to max. upper limits
They should have kept the 5.7L V8 and the 4:30, and maybe went to an 8 or 10 speed transmission for those of us that actually use our trucks as trucks.
But what's the turning radius on something that long? Like that of a supercarrier? That's what my '17 GMC 1500 single cab with 8' bed fees like sometimes...
Now if the midsize segment took this lead, and offered more longer beds with rear lockers. I guess I may have to hold up my end and buy this exact setup that I've been screaming for for years...along with everyone else.
Ford, and GM offer rear lockers, and a few of the Ram configurations do as well, so if that's your problem is a lack of a locker remember GM, Ford, and Ram have offered lockers for several years before Toyota finally caught up to the fact that their fake "LSD" was a running joke with every other automaker.
I like the redesigned interior and new power train, although I wish they would have offered an optional v8 whether the 5.7 or a new v8. The biggest issue with me is the horrible front and rear end design, it is not growing on me at all. I think toyota really tried too hard to make it like the domestic 3 rather than keeping it simple and well toyota lol. Hopefully they refresh the truck in 3-4 years and make it less exotic looking.
they will offer a few different front end grill trims... but overall I feel like the chunky design is a good one. I bet it looks better in person than in videos or pictures
@@gray_ios8924 isn’t the front bumper integrated into the fender and grille? So technically you would have to carve up that front end to put a front bumper on the truck. I’m not not comfortable doing that if I bought the truck.
I'm thinking about washing it and not having that wrap around bumper would be nice. I'm always smashing fingers trying to get behind the bumpers on the last design.
Most likely they will. This feels like the honda civic when they made it all rice 🍚 and now they brought it back to the simple civic. Yeah! Different vehicles but it seems similar in the points you just said.
I have that same truck but with the 5 1/2 foot bed, love the Army Green and Black subdued grill and decals, bought at 50k MSRP, wish it had electronic seats, a locking gas cap, catalytic converter shield, and tow hooks....Otherwise rides great, plenty of power for towing and payload for a 1/2 ton truck and decent fuel economy...
@@TruckKing yup, getting ready to tow a 32’ travel trailer for the first time with that same exact tundra so you two have help with calming the nerves. Love the content, thanks again!
I have a tacoma with the same composite bed and that thing is so slippery, gotta get the rubber mat for it for sure. The rubber mat is inexpensive and actually very nice to have. I actually prefer the bed this way myself
@@alexgarcia3900 pros and cons in my opinion. I had a Tacoma and kinda liked being able to slide things a bit more easily, but yeah was a pain when I needed to secure things a bit better. My case may have been different since i had a tonneau cover which prevented any water from accumulating. My current truck has a Bedrug which is super grippy. Again kinda miss not being able to slide things, but also now dont have to use tie downs nearly as often.
@@ALMX5DP yeah I actually like the factory tacoma bed mat as it's kinda rubbery so I can throw my tools and it actually dampens the impact. Also keeps things from sliding and I always have stuff back there so I didn't like the composite bed just bare like that. I've had trucks all my life and have had most setups and the rubber mat with the composite bed is my favorite. The composite bed is easy to clean if you spill any oils or paint unlike the bed liner and the mat is replaceable and is soft so doesn't scratch all your stuff back there.
that's my only qualm with these toyota trucks. The twin turbo-V6 combo although good for fuel economy in the short term, the turbos put too much stress on the engine which leads them to being much more susceptible to damage.
Hi Steve and Howard. I just watched 'Tremor vs Tundra vs Power Wagon 2021 Compilation 4x4 Off-Roading Full Size Trucks' video and the older Tundra struggled. I hope the new Tundra has better locking rear and front diff's. The video showed opposite front and rear wheels spinning and stopping forward movement.
The previous Tundras didn't have a locker at all, and never have had a front locker. Aftermarket is available though if you want lockers....but 99% of people don't need a locker, and wouldn't know how to use it even if they did, it would get them into far more trouble than just AWD or 4WD alone.
Toyota exceeded all criteria with this current generation. Although, I wish they did retain the legendary tried and true bulletproof naturally aspirated 5.7 liter V-8 engine, at least as an option.
TK! It would be awesome to hear what you and your dads midsize y’all would prefer and reasons why, which full size y’all would prefer and reasons why, and finally which one out the of the 2 would y’all ultimately go with and why! Y’all give the realest reviews would love y’all’s feedback. Thanks!
I don’t think they’ll do it for promotional/professional/ monetary reasons and I understand, it would just be cool to hear their own personal picks and why.
I learned that I’ve apparently seriously overloaded my 5.7 long bed quite a few times. I put 2500 lbs of stone in the bed. Didn’t have much suspension travel left but I got where I was going just fine and dandy.
Stock suspension is for everyday driving. If you haul heavy loads on a regular basis you can have the suspension nearly locked so it doesn't squat when loaded.
1450 lbs payload on a fairly basic Tundra is not great. I’m guessing the platinum loaded will be 1200-ish lbs, which isn’t going to be great for towing anything more than a 5k lb (dry) travel trailer. It’s too bad they couldn’t at least try and match the F150 with the max tow package. Glad to see 6.5 bed is an option now though!
The F150 max tow don't exactly ride like a normal F150. It also accounts for a tiny fraction of sales. Taking a extreme end configuration and comparing it to a mainstream configuration is stupid.
@@ricqik The F150 actually doesn’t increase it’s payload with the Max Tow…a 6.5 foot bed F150 Supercrew has a GVWR of 7150. One F150 that I saw the yellow capacity sticker myself showed a payload of 1792 lbs (XLT, nicely optioned), it just happened to have a Max Tow package. I’m not sure what the Max Tow would weigh, but my guess is a F150 6.5’ bed SC without the Max Tow would be similar. 300 lbs extra capacity in the half ton market is a lot. At 1450, it’ll be likely just enough for a load 6000-lb travel trailer with a family - and if the higher trims don’t have a increased GVWR, they’d likely struggle to even do that. There’s a reason why F150 is the best selling half ton…they have a lot of options, and ways to configure exactly as someone needs - even if it seems like an “extreme” configuration.
Good review. My dealer has me on a list for a ‘22 Limited iForce Max Crew max with air suspension. I will likely add a spray in bed liner to keep items from sliding. Plan to sell my ‘21 Limited Off-Road Tundra Crew max in early ‘22! Not enough info online to know exactly what I’ll order. Been frustrating how Toyota has dragged this out.
Depending on what types of loads you'll have, may take a look at Bedrugs. I put one in on my current truck and love the textured grippy surface. I dont haul yard debris or dirt often though, so that may be harder to clean out once it's time to. I got mine instead of bedliner since bedliner can also be a little slippery at times, and it's completely removable so if i ever wanted to go back to stock I can.
Payload isn't about just load on the suspension and body. It's also about how the truck can stop when loaded and how it handles. if you have brakes setup to stop 11000 lbs towed and you tow 14000 the truck may be physically capable to tow it or have more in the bed but the safety is compromised. They always state lower limits to reduce their liability if someone does something stupid.
The 10 speed + lower rear end means you actually have more multiplied torque than the old 6 speed with the 4.30. Even the Ram 8 speed with 3.21 has a deeper first gear than the 6 speed with 4.30. As for payload, you guys always test with barrels up against the rear window, which is fine, but it means your front axle is getting a lot of that weight. Putting 1000 pounds on the rear bumper (towing a camper) will make that truck very light in the front end and very squirrely in the rear... so it's not just the weight, it's where the weight is being placed that matters, payload is a single number that tries to keep everything safe and naturally it's going to handle the weight much better over the center of both axles than it will hanging of the edge of your bumper.
I was about to write the same thing about the gearing. ALL of those ‘’experts’’ truck reviewer only focus on the rear end. It’s not 1970 anymore… 8-10 speed trannys are way steeper in first gear than the old 4 speeds were
Of course it makes it handle better with the weight in the middle of the truck. thats how you should do it. Just like putting the weight on a trailer over the axles.
@@EasyMoneySG My point is, they always say the truck can handle more than the payload, but it can't because that feeling of "being able to handle more" will turn into white knuckle driving the second you take of those barrels and drop 1000 pounds of trailer tongue weight on the hitch.
But if you put 1,000 lbs at the bumper it’s a completely different set up. As you said a set up for towing a trailer. If you are towing a ~10,000 lb. trailer with 1,000 lb tongue weight, Toyota says you must use a weight distribution hitch. It would nullify the white knuckle effect. They are loading the truck properly for the specific case.
You can really tell that Toyota didn't have towing as their first priority here (not saying that's a bad thing), they went the smarter route by going for fuel economy and comfort with the coils because not everyone is gonna be pulling a trailer, if so it wouldn't be that heavy. If they really wanted to they can make this thing tow they could've made it like 14,000lbs or close to that just like the f150
As far as the fuel mileage it appears that they are using Narrower tires now....when you showed that door stick it looked like the first number was 265. Narrower means lighter and less wind resistance.
I bought a 2020 Limited in 2020 because I could see the V8 was going away, sure maybe that turbo 6 has power and fuel mileage but I will keep this truck as I did my last one (Titan ) for at least 15 years so I did not want the probable and expensive maintenance that will be required later on while I still own it…..
Great review you guys ! I know my dad might like the new tundra ! As a former Toyota tech- Toyota .”we have a lot of 3.5 v6s ! What are we gonna do?? Let’s twin turbo them and stuff them in a truck ! Ford is doing it ! Truck looks ok? Front is not my favorite. And is the engine also using 0w15 Goya cooking oil? 😂 ok I’ll stop
I guess this is one way to get Tundras into pick a part yards is putting garbage engines into them and then trying to boast they're better than the old tried and true V8.
Good vid, but I’m really struggling to understand what’s so respectable about a 1450lb payload rating? That’s less than a Honda Ridgeline or Tacoma. Pile a few corn fed dudes in there plus their gear and you’re out of payload. Why pay $50k+ for a grocery getter?
Agreed. Pretty disappointing. Just bought a load 21 F150 and it's 1610lbs. And has every option box ticked. I'd bet a equivalent Tundra would be 1200lbs. With payload numbers this low you'd NEVER be able to legally tow anywhere near the 11000lbs. Fricken hate manufacturers using these bs tow numbers.
Some of that comes down to the way the truck is optioned out, but Toyota has always had pretty dismal hauling/towing numbers. Was never impressed with their payload capacity.
I think this is the same or similar engine out of the Lexus LS which has been in production for 4 or 5 years be already...doubt they would risk putting it in the Landcruiser if they had any concerns..or the LS for that matter those two vehicles probably have the best rep for reliability in the entire industry...
I get why so many are interested in reliability. I'm sure this will be on par with Toyota's level. It may not technically be more reliable than the old truck, but that is kinda the nature of modern vehicles. I'm sure a similar argument could be made for nearly any new vehicle, but people still seem to accept them and are generally fine.
"Towing capacity is a major factor in choosing a pickup truck, so Irmo drivers will certainly want to know that the F-150 can tow more than the Tundra. When properly equipped, the F-150 tows up to 13,200 pounds, whereas the Tundra tows just 10,200 pounds" The F150 🇺🇸 can tow over a TON more than the Tundra Torakku 🇯🇵
TWIN TURBO -----Ka....Boom ! There goes Tundras Reliability... These truck/ cars are being made for younger Gen baby boys who find EVERYTHING Cool this and cool that... C'mon man! Way too much plastic too ... Still no Cleaver Tailgate like GM 's GMC that could be made simple without all the complications... Also --no foot climb up areas either for us old guys .
What's the ride quality like over rougher pavement? Specifically empty bed, no tow bounce. Did getting rid of the leaf springs improve that? Also, some reviewers noted excess wind noise: did you find that to be the case? Thanks!
The boxed frame would solve the bed bounce problem, it had nothing to do with springs, it was due to the fact that Toyota cut corners and went with an open C-channel frame under the bed on the previous Tundra.
6:18 4.30 rear end in the old Tundra? No wonder it was a gas guzzler! I just hope that torque monster turbo engine will handle the 3.30 gears without performance loss, because I might buy one of these myself if I do get an oil field job.
The 4.30 rear end was great for a tow rig, and it did pretty well for fuel economy if you didn't drive like a bat out of hell...I'd get 19mpg consistently empty, I'd occasionally get over 20mpg out on the freeway but didn't go that direction very often LOL. Towing 7-8k though I'd get 12-13mpg. The problem was the 6 speed was always trying to figure out what gear to be in.
why didn't you share what fuel milage you actually got while towing? You talked about it a lot but didn't share the numbers......
Honestly, it was an oversight, so thanks for mentioning it. We managed 18.1L/100KM (13 US MPG) while towing the 7K-LB trailer over a distance of 40 kms (25 miles).
@@TruckKing was that economy rating including the two timed 0-100kph?
@@TruckKing Why not test 10k+ lb like the truck is designed to pull?
@@elwoodhewitt Nope! We do the 0-60 runs after the fuel economy is recorded.
@@TruckKing you can't judge mpg in 25 miles. Drive it 300
Best truck reviewers on UA-cam without a doubt. Thanks for all the hard work guys.
They FINALLY made the cab and bed combo I've always wanted from them...but without the V8...just can't win lol
But this outperforms the V8 in every way, and equal or better than the V8s in their graphic except the TRX and that's not really a fair comparison.
@@EasyMoneySG Honestly I'm not too concerned about MPG's and 0-60 on a truck. Plus I rarely if ever tow, I just need a decent payload for camping. Main reason I would want a V8 is just the simple reliability of a naturally aspirated engine. Less stress an parts and less things to break/ maintain/ replace etc. Less parts to be damaged in a front end collision too. And...as an old school truck guy I just prefer the sound of a true V8... not the fake V8 noise some manufacturers play in the door speakers lol
@@TheAntinowherelane V8 engines are as American as apple pie ….
@@TheAntinowherelane sorry, but those 5.7 engines are a pain in the butt when they break. Ask any tech at my dealership, they hate working on those almost as much as the 2GR FE. But both are really reliable.
@@alvidrez7956 🇺🇸🦅💪
Looks like you guys are the first to get one for testing. Well done!
I agree with Sr, the analog gauges are if anything better. This is the exact trim I am looking at getting.
I heard the markups are crazy at some dealers.
@@penvon only in the USA not here in Canada. Plus we still don’t have them yet. American 🇺🇸 dealership comes first then Canada🤷♂️
Same. I even like the Army Green
@@penvon I have been to 2 different dealers with msrp build sheets from the Toyota website. Both dealers basically laughed at the online build quote I provided telling me that they will be charging a $10-15k “market adjustment” on most models.
I am on my 3rd Tundra with over 400k miles between them all. If Toyota USA allows dealers to treat loyal customers like this…… I am currently driving my last Toyota.
@@mangosnapper35 Yea man this is getting out of hand…Think the manufacturers might have to take a page out of the Tesla book.
Good job on the reviews! Being Canadian, I love having reviewers showing Canadian vehicles and packages (Which are very different than what is offered in the US - This SR5 trim is a prime example - no 14’’ screen available on SR5 trim) and also love to have references in KM and L/100. Very refreshing! Just ordered the exact truck - SR5 TRD Off Road, Crewmax with 6.5’ bed. Can’t wait to get it this spring!
Glad you like them!
I really like your reviews, especially this one. Very pragmatic and your natural enthusiasm shows, but not all the smug hype like other reviewers. Keep up the great work!
Nicely done! Love the Dad perspective! Great channel - keep'er movin!
Have you ever walked on a steel bed without a bed liner when wet, slick as ice haha
Damn I haven’t and now I rather not
Ha! Agreed! And man when there's the smallest amount of ice
@@ElmwoodAl you could skate on that!
great review as always. Steven, you and your Dad and your brother make a good team for testing. Looking fwd to seeing more of your brother in future vids.
Great 👍 job boys! 1st ones to review the Tundra on your home turf. Keep the vids rolling.
Thanks! Will do!
Thanks for the video!!! Great job as always!!! Great information!!!
Only recently found your channel. I like it a lot! Keep up the great work.
Great video, can't wait to see how it holds up in time compared to the old 5.7. Only time will tell.
Good tech info like the new axle ratio that a guy won't find anywhere else. Good video.
Great job men. Seems like an honest truck without too much tech-crap getting in the way of using it as a truck.
Thanks 👍
Great vidds man been waiting for this truck to be put to the test
That’s actually really cool that Toyota went back to its roots, and went old school by having a box frame for the trucks.
We all been waiting for a very long time but finally we get to see the 2022 Tundra on the Truck King testing grounds !
great vid. you and your dad make a great team! mix of new school and old school mentaility
Great video as always
Good job toyota you caught up with the competition
Great review. So many times only the top level trucks are reviewed. God to see a work truck reviewed. I always use a weather tech bed mat, which is a must for this truck
I just ordered one, I ordered the same exact truck in army green except mine will have the 5.5' bed. I cant wait to see it! I have been told it should arrive Feb-Mar.
Congrats!!! Keep us updated!!!👍
I love to watch your videos I always learn something from them.
Great video guys. Keep up the good work.
Good review…very insightful observations and comments.
Love to see it pull and RV. Flat trailers are pretty easy to pull compared to a large wall.
Yes, a 100 miles on the highway with a 26 foot camper, loaded up with gear and water in the tanks, plus an ATV in the truck bed. Then go have a fun weekend mudding. Actually, can I just borrow that truck?
@@RigiLiquid945 with a 7000lb GVW RV is pushing around 900-950lbs tongue weight. With a 200lb male in the truck you’re not Hanna have the payload for it 😂.
It would be great to review 5 people who switched to a 2022 Tundra from Ford or GM, and then review 5 people switched from Tundra to a Ford or GM. Real world comparisons.
Good idea. Now and after long term ownership as well. See if the redesigned Tundra is nearly as reliable as the outgoing model.
@@kross1261 would have to wait a few years. For me at least 10 years before I give up my 2021.
@@Baebon6259 I waited 13 to buy my 2020 after owning my 07 250k miles and only replaced the starter very reliable trucks. Planning on 10 plus years again for my 2020.
Nobody cares about ford or GM, always waiting to get repairs done at the dealership . That is why we all bought Toyota Tundra’s for reliability.
Love the look inside and out. Wish they had them in my area so I could test drive one.
Stephen, What a relief that they sent a 'basic' truck to test for a change. Maybe some day you might get one with an actual 8 foot bed. As others have said, only time will tell if the reliability of the new model matches the 5.7.
Impossible for Twin Turbos to be as reliable as naturally aspirated engines. If anyone says otherwise then I suggest that Toyota up the warranty to 200,000 kms on the Turbos. 😃
@@Thankyou_3 Based on the normally aspirated engines of past, those were done before 150k... This ain't the past. Moving parts and electronics are moving parts and electronics. All engines have them, moving parts, may as well make them work better. There's nothing to say turbos are bad, otherwise vehicles that demand longevity wouldn't have them, see commercial trucking, See diesel engines... The turbos aren't the weak point until somebody does their own tinkering under the hood and fries them from tuning, or something different than originally engineered.
@@brentworls8509 Those are some very valid points, let's revisit this discussion in 2036 to see how the 2022 Tundra V6 and V6 Hybrid are holding up against the 2021 Tundra 5.7.
@@rightlanehog3151 I think the trade-off of any perceived or expected maintenance issues is outweighed by the benefits in efficiency. They aren't all that hard to change out if something does happen, and my 2017 F-150 2.7 with 118,000 miles runs like new, and gets over 600 miles out of a tank. Turbos shouldn't be a deal breaker, at least if they go bad, the truck probably still drives. I think the transmissions with 8-10-more speeds are the newest weak point, moreso than the turbos when used to the limits.
I trust in Toyota. If the TTV6 wasn’t reliable, they wouldn’t put it in the new Land Cruiser, Tundra, LX600 and Sequoia.
I have no doubt that the 2022 Tundra is a fine truck. I've watched 2-3 dozen videos now on it. With that said, there is nothing about it that makes me regret buying a 2020 Tundra Limited TRD Off Road.
I bought that truck for $42,450. There is no way you can touch that price. It was not just the reliability that made the Tundra such a great choice but the price. It was so much cheaper than the competition for equally equipped features.
The entry cost on these new Tundra's is enormous and I just could not swallow $50,000 US for a SR5 truck.
Exactly
Agreed, bought a 2020 SR5 TSS Edition in May of 2020 and the new Tundra looks great but there isn't enough for me to regret buying my 2020 Tundra.
Different market. I was easily get 13-15k off on f150 until early this year. Now i can get 2k off if I am lucky. You keep your truck or sell it for more than you paid and buy this new gen tundra at msrp if you like it. I drove my suv for 2yrs and sold for more than what i paid..
I took a 15 SR5 CM, added a Magnuson supercharger, American racing headers, 4.88, rear posi, shell camper/roof rack, 46 gal gas tank, amp steps and dual sub stereo and icon suspension and dap tuning for under 55k with labor. Best deal is diy.
@@Chefjjdecker you are still missing out on ride quality and cabin noise. I have owned(personal, work) every single half ton and some 3/4 and 1ton. I believe tundra will outlast domestic trucks but tundra gives you the worst ride quality and noise(engine, road, wind).
Actual payload is probably much higher, but if they say that it is lower, then they can deny liability and warranty if someone was over the stated payload and had an issue
I like that the Tundra is sporting the same mustachios as your dad. Is Toyota compensating him for inspiring the design? I’d have liked to see how the longer wheelbase and bed would hinder it on your trail system. I know it’s not the primary function for that config but it still had the TRD Off Road badge on it so it’d be interesting to see it tested.
@nathan
I agree on the long wheelbase, it’s gonna be a bear to park it , the turning radius will suck
I just had to cut out the bed floor and weld in a new one this past weekend on my 2007 Tundra. The whole time I was wishing it was a composite bed.
Wish you had towed with the payload as well. That's how most of use these when towing a camper etc. Glad to see an SR review finally.
I think that would have put them over the legal payload.
@@ALMX5DP for sure. 1,000 pounds of barrel, 500 pounds of dude, and 700+ pounds of tongue weight puts them quite a bit over the payload.
Not that people won’t be doing it.
OK I really like your channel better than your previous channel. I believe this particular model is the exact same horsepower but more torque. Also not sure at the end your chart said that the TRD pro was faster than the TRD SR5. I thought the pro would be a little slower. Either way I have a 2021 TRD LTD. and I love it. Thanks for the info
Well, I worked for TFL - whereas now my Dad and I own Truck King. Welcome.
@@TruckKing , Yes sir. I understand. I guess I should’ve said that more directly. What part of Canada are you ?
@@COMMANDER-ONE We are in southern Ontario
Green looks good on that Tundra trim. Great work, keep it up.
I like the voodoo blue color that I have on my 2020
A really honest review gents. I love how you do your towing and payload tests. Super hard driving music in the vid btw…who was that?
Great review guys!
Thanks so much!
Great review fellas, the collaboration with dad who is super knowledgeable is fantastic. Now the Tundra is Just another great competitor in a class full of great competition. Nice haircut mate!
Much appreciated!
🇺🇸 you guys are the best! First real life tubdra review! Toyota is very conservative about their specs. Which I prefer when towing or payload.
Already seeing dealer mark ups in NJ, NY, PA area. We'll be buying one as soon we can without overpaying.
67K for 1794 model from VA.
I have a 06 Tundra with the 4.7L I love it. It has 254k on it. Great truck
146k on my 05 Tundra 4.7L doesn't get driven much anymore though.
@@wildbill23c mines at 265k now.
@@jeremyscaggs7315 Another what 100k to go before you break in that engine LOL. The 4.7L V8's are the ones hitting the million miles too. With regular maintenance shouldn't be that hard to do. I think the first million mile tundra the owner reportedly had a transmission failure around 800k, heck most of today's trucks don't get past 200k before they need a transmission, and many need an engine by then too LOL.
I'm going to have to step up into 3/4 ton territory here soon I think. The Tundra is rated for I think 6500-7000lbs towing capacity, I'm pretty much at that with my car trailer/tractor/implements ugg.
@@wildbill23c keep me updated on what u end up doing.
@@jeremyscaggs7315 Right now nothing, not paying ridiculously overinflated prices for a used truck...and it won't be anything close to new...I don't figure on buying anything newer than a mid 90's F250 for no more use than I have for an HD truck I'm not going to buy new LOL.
New Tundra looks promising!!
New 2022 Silverado and Sierra out in March 2022! Looks like they made some great changes! Hope you guys will be reviewing those as well!
23 MPG highway, not too shabby!
As nice as it is, I am curious how long the v6 engine will last. The v8 always lasted a lifetime.
Fellas, fantastic content, but PLEASE keep an eye on your load! At 8:15, you’ll start to see the barrels sliding around in the bed. As always, a great video!!!! I just don’t want to see someone get hurt or you guys get in trouble for “donating” a barrel to someone’s front bumper
Kudos to Toyota. Looks and performance this will be a top truck against the big 3. Still love my 5.7 but that mpg is killer.
It will be a solid number 4 for sure
Did you do your own mpg loop? Love the Toyota videos!! Keep ‘em coming!
I like the Canadian maple leaf in the floor board of the interior shots. 🇨🇦
Great review as always, Nice truck looks like Toyota done their homework as expected, it’s a shame that Toyota doesn’t offer at least another option for the rear differential like a 3:73, 4:10 or the 4:30 for the guys pulling the heavy campers etc through the mountains and aren’t as worried about fuel mileage because everyone knows there’s a trade off between mileage and performance when towing close to max. upper limits
They should have kept the 5.7L V8 and the 4:30, and maybe went to an 8 or 10 speed transmission for those of us that actually use our trucks as trucks.
FINALLY!!!! A crewman with 6.5’ bed! That wasn’t that hard was it? Sheesh
They realized most people don't park their truck in the garage.
But what's the turning radius on something that long? Like that of a supercarrier? That's what my '17 GMC 1500 single cab with 8' bed fees like sometimes...
Sid
Yea or ever park it in a big box or grocery store, that will never happen..
Now if the midsize segment took this lead, and offered more longer beds with rear lockers. I guess I may have to hold up my end and buy this exact setup that I've been screaming for for years...along with everyone else.
Ford, and GM offer rear lockers, and a few of the Ram configurations do as well, so if that's your problem is a lack of a locker remember GM, Ford, and Ram have offered lockers for several years before Toyota finally caught up to the fact that their fake "LSD" was a running joke with every other automaker.
Can't wait for the hybrid version test.
I like the redesigned interior and new power train, although I wish they would have offered an optional v8 whether the 5.7 or a new v8. The biggest issue with me is the horrible front and rear end design, it is not growing on me at all. I think toyota really tried too hard to make it like the domestic 3 rather than keeping it simple and well toyota lol. Hopefully they refresh the truck in 3-4 years and make it less exotic looking.
they will offer a few different front end grill trims... but overall I feel like the chunky design is a good one. I bet it looks better in person than in videos or pictures
Just change the front bumper problem solved, and the rear isn’t so bad at all
@@gray_ios8924 isn’t the front bumper integrated into the fender and grille? So technically you would have to carve up that front end to put a front bumper on the truck. I’m not not comfortable doing that if I bought the truck.
I'm thinking about washing it and not having that wrap around bumper would be nice. I'm always smashing fingers trying to get behind the bumpers on the last design.
Most likely they will. This feels like the honda civic when they made it all rice 🍚 and now they brought it back to the simple civic. Yeah! Different vehicles but it seems similar in the points you just said.
cant wait to see the hybrid one in action.
I never knew that about the rear ratio. That's quite interesting 🤔 👍
I have that same truck but with the 5 1/2 foot bed, love the Army Green and Black subdued grill and decals, bought at 50k MSRP, wish it had electronic seats, a locking gas cap, catalytic converter shield, and tow hooks....Otherwise rides great, plenty of power for towing and payload for a 1/2 ton truck and decent fuel economy...
Great review, seriously helped. Thanks guys.
Glad to hear it!
@@TruckKing yup, getting ready to tow a 32’ travel trailer for the first time with that same exact tundra so you two have help with calming the nerves. Love the content, thanks again!
Love that colour.
Toyota has best bed and rail tie-down system in the business. The damm thing is Durable and rugged, you don't have to worry about dents and rust ever.
A big 3 guy but this truck has me looking at it!
Rob
As they say, look but don’t touch!
Your video shows how slippery the bed is. When you’re talking about payload and take a corner (8:20), you can see the barrels behind you slide.
I have a tacoma with the same composite bed and that thing is so slippery, gotta get the rubber mat for it for sure. The rubber mat is inexpensive and actually very nice to have. I actually prefer the bed this way myself
Good catch.
@@alexgarcia3900 pros and cons in my opinion. I had a Tacoma and kinda liked being able to slide things a bit more easily, but yeah was a pain when I needed to secure things a bit better. My case may have been different since i had a tonneau cover which prevented any water from accumulating. My current truck has a Bedrug which is super grippy. Again kinda miss not being able to slide things, but also now dont have to use tie downs nearly as often.
@@ALMX5DP yeah I actually like the factory tacoma bed mat as it's kinda rubbery so I can throw my tools and it actually dampens the impact. Also keeps things from sliding and I always have stuff back there so I didn't like the composite bed just bare like that. I've had trucks all my life and have had most setups and the rubber mat with the composite bed is my favorite. The composite bed is easy to clean if you spill any oils or paint unlike the bed liner and the mat is replaceable and is soft so doesn't scratch all your stuff back there.
@@ALMX5DP btw nice miata. I'm a fan of miatas amd have owned a few
that's my only qualm with these toyota trucks. The twin turbo-V6 combo although good for fuel economy in the short term, the turbos put too much stress on the engine which leads them to being much more susceptible to damage.
I was thinking the same thing.
Hi Steve and Howard. I just watched 'Tremor vs Tundra vs Power Wagon 2021 Compilation 4x4 Off-Roading Full Size Trucks' video and the older Tundra struggled. I hope the new Tundra has better locking rear and front diff's. The video showed opposite front and rear wheels spinning and stopping forward movement.
It has mts atrac system and a rear locking 🔒 diff in the TRD OFFROAD trim. Yes it will he much better.
@@SimplyCarReviews Thanks.
No front locker or tow hooks..
The previous Tundras didn't have a locker at all, and never have had a front locker. Aftermarket is available though if you want lockers....but 99% of people don't need a locker, and wouldn't know how to use it even if they did, it would get them into far more trouble than just AWD or 4WD alone.
Toyota exceeded all criteria with this current generation. Although, I wish they did retain the legendary tried and true bulletproof naturally aspirated 5.7 liter V-8 engine, at least as an option.
As an option a v8 with 10 speed auto and a lower gear ratio 3:92 to 4:30
TK! It would be awesome to hear what you and your dads midsize y’all would prefer and reasons why, which full size y’all would prefer and reasons why, and finally which one out the of the 2 would y’all ultimately go with and why! Y’all give the realest reviews would love y’all’s feedback. Thanks!
I don’t think they’ll do it for promotional/professional/ monetary reasons and I understand, it would just be cool to hear their own personal picks and why.
I learned that I’ve apparently seriously overloaded my 5.7 long bed quite a few times. I put 2500 lbs of stone in the bed. Didn’t have much suspension travel left but I got where I was going just fine and dandy.
Stock suspension is for everyday driving. If you haul heavy loads on a regular basis you can have the suspension nearly locked so it doesn't squat when loaded.
When are you taking the new Tundra on a 4000 mile trip across Canada similar to previous tundra model?
When they find one that runs long enough to do so without breaking down.
1450 lbs payload on a fairly basic Tundra is not great. I’m guessing the platinum loaded will be 1200-ish lbs, which isn’t going to be great for towing anything more than a 5k lb (dry) travel trailer. It’s too bad they couldn’t at least try and match the F150 with the max tow package. Glad to see 6.5 bed is an option now though!
Exactly it took Toyota a decade to produce a light weight truck with minimal payload. Good luck hauling the family and towing anywhere near max.
Just watched a TFL video about the limited one and it has 1400 lbs for payload, which is not great at all.
The F150 max tow don't exactly ride like a normal F150. It also accounts for a tiny fraction of sales. Taking a extreme end configuration and comparing it to a mainstream configuration is stupid.
@@ricqik The F150 actually doesn’t increase it’s payload with the Max Tow…a 6.5 foot bed F150 Supercrew has a GVWR of 7150. One F150 that I saw the yellow capacity sticker myself showed a payload of 1792 lbs (XLT, nicely optioned), it just happened to have a Max Tow package. I’m not sure what the Max Tow would weigh, but my guess is a F150 6.5’ bed SC without the Max Tow would be similar. 300 lbs extra capacity in the half ton market is a lot. At 1450, it’ll be likely just enough for a load 6000-lb travel trailer with a family - and if the higher trims don’t have a increased GVWR, they’d likely struggle to even do that. There’s a reason why F150 is the best selling half ton…they have a lot of options, and ways to configure exactly as someone needs - even if it seems like an “extreme” configuration.
Good review. My dealer has me on a list for a ‘22 Limited iForce Max Crew max with air suspension. I will likely add a spray in bed liner to keep items from sliding. Plan to sell my ‘21 Limited Off-Road Tundra Crew max in early ‘22! Not enough info online to know exactly what I’ll order. Been frustrating how Toyota has dragged this out.
Depending on what types of loads you'll have, may take a look at Bedrugs. I put one in on my current truck and love the textured grippy surface. I dont haul yard debris or dirt often though, so that may be harder to clean out once it's time to. I got mine instead of bedliner since bedliner can also be a little slippery at times, and it's completely removable so if i ever wanted to go back to stock I can.
I had my 08 Tundra bed rhino lined, worked great except when you actually needed things to slide around LOL.
Payload isn't about just load on the suspension and body. It's also about how the truck can stop when loaded and how it handles. if you have brakes setup to stop 11000 lbs towed and you tow 14000 the truck may be physically capable to tow it or have more in the bed but the safety is compromised. They always state lower limits to reduce their liability if someone does something stupid.
good point.
The 10 speed + lower rear end means you actually have more multiplied torque than the old 6 speed with the 4.30. Even the Ram 8 speed with 3.21 has a deeper first gear than the 6 speed with 4.30. As for payload, you guys always test with barrels up against the rear window, which is fine, but it means your front axle is getting a lot of that weight. Putting 1000 pounds on the rear bumper (towing a camper) will make that truck very light in the front end and very squirrely in the rear... so it's not just the weight, it's where the weight is being placed that matters, payload is a single number that tries to keep everything safe and naturally it's going to handle the weight much better over the center of both axles than it will hanging of the edge of your bumper.
I was about to write the same thing about the gearing. ALL of those ‘’experts’’ truck reviewer only focus on the rear end. It’s not 1970 anymore… 8-10 speed trannys are way steeper in first gear than the old 4 speeds were
Of course it makes it handle better with the weight in the middle of the truck. thats how you should do it. Just like putting the weight on a trailer over the axles.
Having trouble finding a gear ratio break down for this truck? Is it available yet?
@@EasyMoneySG My point is, they always say the truck can handle more than the payload, but it can't because that feeling of "being able to handle more" will turn into white knuckle driving the second you take of those barrels and drop 1000 pounds of trailer tongue weight on the hitch.
But if you put 1,000 lbs at the bumper it’s a completely different set up. As you said a set up for towing a trailer. If you are towing a ~10,000 lb. trailer with 1,000 lb tongue weight, Toyota says you must use a weight distribution hitch. It would nullify the white knuckle effect. They are loading the truck properly for the specific case.
You can really tell that Toyota didn't have towing as their first priority here (not saying that's a bad thing), they went the smarter route by going for fuel economy and comfort with the coils because not everyone is gonna be pulling a trailer, if so it wouldn't be that heavy. If they really wanted to they can make this thing tow they could've made it like 14,000lbs or close to that just like the f150
Its more than capable, if you want the all out, get the trd pro.
As far as the fuel mileage it appears that they are using Narrower tires now....when you showed that door stick it looked like the first number was 265. Narrower means lighter and less wind resistance.
Good eye ,I’ll be putting 275s on mine. Probably lose a couple of miles a gallon
And cheaper for Toyota to build
shows us you getting in the back of the truck (the box)
Alright 👍!!! Looks great TRD tundra... 👌👌
I bought a 2020 Limited in 2020 because I could see the V8 was going away, sure maybe that turbo 6 has power and fuel mileage but I will keep this truck as I did my last one (Titan ) for at least 15 years so I did not want the probable and expensive maintenance that will be required later on while I still own it…..
I did the same!!! There is nothing like a natural aspirated V8 5.7 proven reliable!!! I should have ordered two of them!!!
Love your videos!! Also love the new Toyota!!
Great review you guys ! I know my dad might like the new tundra !
As a former Toyota tech-
Toyota .”we have a lot of 3.5 v6s !
What are we gonna do??
Let’s twin turbo them and stuff them in a truck !
Ford is doing it !
Truck looks ok? Front is not my favorite.
And is the engine also using 0w15
Goya cooking oil? 😂
ok I’ll stop
I guess this is one way to get Tundras into pick a part yards is putting garbage engines into them and then trying to boast they're better than the old tried and true V8.
Are you guys going to test the TRD pro TwinTurbo hybrid Towing capacity just like the TRD off-road?
All trucks are gangsters until they’re send off to Truck King for reviews 😂😅 that’s when we know if they’re it or not.
What was fuel economy while towing? Would be great to see a compare with others as well.
Just have to wait till 2023 to get one delivered
I am also interested on payload. how ford has almost double the payload on the F150
Because the ford is a truck..
A front end only a mother could love!
Fish lips🥴
@@floydlarken3148 lol... I see that too.
LMAO!!! So true. May take me time to love this child 😂
Cleft lip 😀
@@paulhunter9613 Actually, cleft palate
Good vid, but I’m really struggling to understand what’s so respectable about a 1450lb payload rating? That’s less than a Honda Ridgeline or Tacoma. Pile a few corn fed dudes in there plus their gear and you’re out of payload. Why pay $50k+ for a grocery getter?
Agreed. Pretty disappointing. Just bought a load 21 F150 and it's 1610lbs. And has every option box ticked. I'd bet a equivalent Tundra would be 1200lbs. With payload numbers this low you'd NEVER be able to legally tow anywhere near the 11000lbs. Fricken hate manufacturers using these bs tow numbers.
Some of that comes down to the way the truck is optioned out, but Toyota has always had pretty dismal hauling/towing numbers. Was never impressed with their payload capacity.
Engine sounds awesome 👏
That model good enough for most people truck use. Less gadgets the better. Imo
shifting in sport/manual really helps
I noticed when looking at packages with toyota you can't get the tow mirrors with the TRD. Is toyota going to sell them aftermarket/seperate?
I’m sure it’s much quicker, I’m just skeptical if it’s going to be more reliable as the years go by… but we shall see!!!
Toyota has been doing turbo engines for a long long time. They just aren’t here lol
@@DmonkeyProductions Their turbo vehicles aren’t known for being very reliable, just the nature of turbos.
I think this is the same or similar engine out of the Lexus LS which has been in production for 4 or 5 years be already...doubt they would risk putting it in the Landcruiser if they had any concerns..or the LS for that matter those two vehicles probably have the best rep for reliability in the entire industry...
I get why so many are interested in reliability. I'm sure this will be on par with Toyota's level. It may not technically be more reliable than the old truck, but that is kinda the nature of modern vehicles. I'm sure a similar argument could be made for nearly any new vehicle, but people still seem to accept them and are generally fine.
They are using different turbo designs ( truck turbos) super low psi. Should easily get 200+ k miles from them from what I gathered.
"Towing capacity is a major factor in choosing a pickup truck, so Irmo drivers will certainly want to know that the F-150 can tow more than the Tundra. When properly equipped, the F-150 tows up to 13,200 pounds, whereas the Tundra tows just 10,200 pounds" The F150 🇺🇸 can tow over a TON more than the Tundra Torakku 🇯🇵
That's the exact truck I'd buy. May have to trade the F-150.
Had both. The Tundra is and has been far better.
@@stefanovichmichael9686 lol
@@alicepooper8562 Guess that means you can make the comparison as well, having owned both have you?
@@stefanovichmichael9686 I wouldn't own a tundra they're garbage
That's not what consumer reports, jd power and every other auto industry say. The Tundra has topped them all for the last 21 years. Get informed!
TWIN TURBO -----Ka....Boom !
There goes Tundras Reliability...
These truck/ cars are being made for younger Gen baby boys who find EVERYTHING Cool this and cool that...
C'mon man! Way too much plastic too ...
Still no Cleaver Tailgate like GM 's GMC that could be made simple without all the complications...
Also --no foot climb up areas either for us old guys .
Esteban
C’mon now, you know Toyota uses the magical unicorn turbos that will never fail.. :-p
Very good video, sounds like a yes, subscribed!!
Welcome aboard!
Did you think the center console design worked as an armrest? Looks like the padded area is too skinny.
The armrests look like they belong on an airplane in the economy section
I wanna see some testing using the minimum recommended 87 octane vs some 93 octane. Lord knows they have to pull boost and timing to deal with 87.
Toyota recommends premium for any towing
@@paulhunter9613 yeah… just because it can run on crap doesn’t mean it runs best on it.
What's the ride quality like over rougher pavement? Specifically empty bed, no tow bounce. Did getting rid of the leaf springs improve that? Also, some reviewers noted excess wind noise: did you find that to be the case? Thanks!
it’s quiet and does not bounce.
The boxed frame would solve the bed bounce problem, it had nothing to do with springs, it was due to the fact that Toyota cut corners and went with an open C-channel frame under the bed on the previous Tundra.
6:18 4.30 rear end in the old Tundra? No wonder it was a gas guzzler! I just hope that torque monster turbo engine will handle the 3.30 gears without performance loss, because I might buy one of these myself if I do get an oil field job.
The 4.30 rear end was great for a tow rig, and it did pretty well for fuel economy if you didn't drive like a bat out of hell...I'd get 19mpg consistently empty, I'd occasionally get over 20mpg out on the freeway but didn't go that direction very often LOL. Towing 7-8k though I'd get 12-13mpg. The problem was the 6 speed was always trying to figure out what gear to be in.
great video ,how about the notorious bed bounce is that gone with the new coil spring rear suspension ??
Why did you not use Tow Haul +? If you are towing a 5,000 plus pounds, you stated that Toyota said to use Plus mode.