my boss with a 2020 denali and the hud has a fat crack in the windshield...cant get a replacement. he also said his truck is worth 70k because its loaded with options. im tempted to sell my 18 sierra 6.2l
Let’s be honest. Most aren’t buying a Tundra because it has the best looks or features. We’re buying it because it has the highest reliability, longevity and quality build in its class. If I was leasing a truck and didn’t care about the previously mentioned things, I’d get a RAM 1500 all day long. I’m here for quality. If the other items are in the same ballpark, I’m happy. I wouldn’t trust that GMC or RAM past 5yrs w/o quality issues occurring. I wouldn’t blink an eye with the Tundra past 10yrs+. The fact that a Dodge RAM is now called a RAM speaks volumes of its proven lack of quality in my book. Is it possible the new RAM’s quality has increased, probably. Am I willing to bet $70k on it? Nope!
Agreed.. but I get the point that a redesign from the ground up should have addressed some design flaws... rear storage for 1.. Ford put the batteries between the frame and the inverter.
your 100% right…. a 2500 series a diesel a V8 option…. all would have put the tundra over the top Despite it’s weird front end grill with no tow hooks you gotta give people what they want and truck eng. choices is more important than an info screen
Gimmicks sells to folks. That was used because GMC ran out of really useful upgrades. They just make you pay extra for something you don't really need. I like that Toyota doesn't load their vehicles with gimmicks.
I use the massive step on the multiflex everyday. Best new thing on a pickup truck today. I can carry heavy stuff with two hands and walk straight out of the truck. Before i had to drop it on the gate, jump out, grab it. The side step on the bumper is a nice height to quickly jump over the gate.
@@captainbill8834 You won't say that if you log in Alaska. The truck gets covered in mud. Any crevice will be filled with mud, pebbles, and vegetation. During winter, everything freezes. You want everything to be simple.
For the everyday person that gets a new truck every 10 years and wants it to last and be reliable and to get decent mileage the tundra is much superior to the Sierra…
To me, the lack of the V8 and full time 4wd are the main reasons I will not get one. Once you experience full time 4wd, you’ll never want a vehicle without it. It’s helpful in many situations that you don’t even think about!.
I think the biggest complaint on the old tundras is the MPG of the old V8. That biggest complaint of the lates updated is that the new MPG is not revealed, very dissappointing.
For me it is the loss of rear storage with the hybrid, no ability to fold up the seats and get a flat passenger area, no generator option with the hybrid, also I would love to have a Tundra Prime.
b!tching and complaining enough and they will put those in...like the 6.5' bed + crewmax. I got a feeling Toyota will put the 5.7L back after complaints.
I understand the absence of a generator, the volume Toyota does probably didn’t justify the R and D cost. Rear seat storage should have been thought out better with the hybrid.
@@Baebon6259 that would be nice if they listen to the people/customers. I'm going to sit this out and see if they make improvements and make "Dave" and me a happier person in 2023.
David, my biggest disappointments with the Tundra are Lack of standard two door cab Lack of two door cab with 6.5 Foot, and 8 Foot Truck Box. Loosing the 5.7 V8. Other manufacturers have figured out how to make V8’s more efficient.
I just recently replaced my transmission in a 2017 suburban. GM service dept frowned when asked if my 2017 Silverado would be the same. Toyota here I come!!
I had a 2017-- trans went bad at 50k miles. Truck spent a total of 70 days in the shop. GM finally put a remanufactured trans in as replacement and the same problems began again. Shake, jump, bump whinning and burn smell etc. I asked them to look at the torque converter too and they refused. In the end the notes for my last visit said GM engineers are well aware of the problem -- no fix at this time. I concluded they don't live up to their warranty. After 40 years buying Chevys I'm done. Refer to 8l45 and 8l90 transmission class action lawsuits. Also on GM authority-- it says GM argued in court the trucks need not be warranted because this is a design defect not workmanship or materials. Design defect isn't covered.
@@DS-cw8pm yep sounds about right I am going through the same thing with my 2021 Silverado. Bad brake caliper and they are giving me a run around. This is why I don’t buy extended warranties from dealerships because if you can’t honor the warranty that comes with the truck why should I buy your extended warranty
It’s shame that new tundra doesn’t have the multiple plug ins in the back. Like the f-150 hybrid can be used as a generator if your working in the middle of no where.
A contractor mentioned that he doesn't care about the built in generator, because for his type of work he needs a mobile generator, and you can't drive your truck everywhere, or plug a really long extension. That being said, just buy an inverter for a few hundred bucks and you can use any vehicle as a generator.
All tools are now cordless, I have cordless air compressor and nail gun, also cordless chisel hammer, cordless worm drive. If I need a generator i use my generator lol,
Honestly I think this is Trial era, I think Toyota is going to bring back the V8 option, after complaints about it being dropped they have to listen to customer demand.
I agree with David seven of the 10 things, but I love to have the shifter in the middle . With all I do with a truck a front bench seat is not necessary
Allow me to sum this up. Beyond cosmetic opinion, the primary disappointment is the powertrain. We all exist in the interim between full electrification and hybrid vehicles. Like it or not, this is the period before full electrification becomes standard. I am the proud owner of an 18' Platinum with the 5.7. The V8 is a beautifully audible workhorse, but has the same drawbacks as any other large ICE. My humble consensus: all V8 powerhouse, or make the jump to fully electric. The interim feels like a temporary joke. Cheers.
The number one feature in a Tundra that I look for is the power rear window which retracts, like what I have in my 2005 model. I need that natural air flow in the cabin.
A suffering six with a turbo is still a suffering six...... Agree on the grill and the blacked out A pillars really turn me off. At least paint the bumper under the grill and the A pillars. Give me a column shift in the SR5 and more storage in the console.
Had V8 Toyota's for 20 years. Sad to see them go. The TT6 configuration doesn't sit well with me, nor the steering. Would have preferred V6+hybrid or V8+hybrid, no Turbo.
What was Toyota thinking with a 1,240 lbs. payload ! My Ford Flex has 1,100 lbs. payload. The Ram 1500 Classic 4x4 crew cab (5.7 Hemi V8) has 1,950 lbs. and this GMC has, I'm sure, at least a 2,000 lbs. payload. The new Tundra with four people, full tank of gas and the odd bit of baggage wont be able to hitch up any travel trailer or an ATV in the box or a bowl of gold fish ! So, buying a Tundra means you get a brand new truck to ride in but can't do much else with it. Unbelievable !
The worse thing thing about the Tundra is the look of the front end. The size of the grill compared to the rest of the truck, looks massive! Add to it the black paint on the bumper below the grill, makes it look that much bigger. The head lamp assembly is too small for that large grill. The infotainment screen is a joke. It is way too high off the dash. The rear of the truck is too plain. Toyota should have used the example of the 2021 Tacoma for styling. It is sculpted and looks crisp and mean. The angles of the headlamps, body side moldings and rear bumper has style.
Chevy Tahoe - 15k miles = replace the whole radiator! At 25k miles = replace the whole Engine! Toyota 15 years of no = No Major Repairs! It's your money, your choice!
1. No V-8 engine 2. Wheels & tires (ugly & small) 3. Front grille (too BIG & cheap plastic) 4. Rear bumper integration with body 5. No TRD duel exhaust 6. Cheap plastic fender flares 7. Ugly bubble tailgate 8. Extra long hood with no scoop 9. Fog lights placement looks ugly 10. Huge screen not integrated
You missed 11. The reduced fuel capacity down to 23 vs 38 gallons. Thats significant. Also 12. The higher gear ratio becoming standard with no lower gear option. Toyota made the new Tundra an over priced grocery getter.
I would like to have a V8 engine option, 4 wheel auto. And I think the front of the truck would look much better if the center grill would remain black with the full lower bumper would be all one color and not divided by black or chrome
#1 dissappointment for me is the low payload numbers. #2 hybrid engine not available in the Sr trim. #3 no benchseat. Overall dissappointed in Toyotas decision to treat working customers who need strong work trucks as an afterthought.
How about no onboard generator with the iforce max engine. That 400 watt plug in the bed isnt enough. Would be nice to have what ford has with the hybrid f150.
You’re review is great but you’re being too kind. I’ve had 4 tundras and two Fords. Not a fan of twin turbos and electronic garbage (steering for instance). I’ve blown a turbo in a Ford and it’s stupid expensive to fix. Trucks in general these days have way too many ridiculous lines in the name of aesthetics and excitement, and too much crap under the hood. Not offering a diesel or V8 and going to electric controls is a mistake IMO.
I love the reliability of the Toyota Tundra. I have the 2019 Tundra 1794 and I love it. I love the V8 and I am not sold on the V6 at all. I will never be able to get another Tundra, unless it comes with a V8.
Toyota dropped the ball on this Tundra. Buyers always want options and bells and whistles what really sells the products. I’m sticking with my tundra V8, thank you very much.
Biggest disappointment (other than the styling): the hybrid battery takes up storage space in the cabin. The F150 hybrid manages to place the battery outside the cabin
I agree it takes up a ton of space in the cabin. I also don't want a big toxic high voltage battery in my cabin. But the white TRD Pro looks so sweet that I might just deal with it.
@@tomjohnson8737 I said tools and equipment. Stop trying to defend stupid design choices. Telling anyone that actually uses a truck for what it's ment for that there's enough storage behind the seat is idiotic. We wouldn't be having this conversation if Toyota would put just the basic things you would expect a truck to have in the truck.
The only thing you need in a car or truck is dependable and reliable. There no such thing as the perfect one. It may be perfect for you but not to others.
Exactly. People talk about how much improvement the US truck manufacturers make and what I see are tonight looking interiors. I have test driven Chevy, Fords and GMCs often just for the fun of it. They are often cheap looking inside with a lot of plastic.
Hey guys, be real, all of the interiors are plastic. GM & Dodge seem to have figured out how to increase fuel efficiency with their V8’s. I wish Toyota would, and keep the 5.7. It’s a great engine. Offer the new V6 TT option, offer a Diesel option. Don’t stick us with one Choice, and before someone comments on the Hybrid option, you’re still stuck with the V6 Twin Turbo. Talk to anyone with an F150 With 200K + Km’s, ask them what they have spent on maintenance.
@@ramiroescamilla7263 VERY PROBLEMATIC! no a guy that works at the mines and there trucks are always breaking. Never had that problem when they were using tundras. He is begging them to return. Toyota reliability is unmatched.
I can't believe they lost the iForce V8. That was a 400,000 mile motor. That twin turbo V6 will be nothing but trouble after 150,000 miles. Just like that eco boost twin turbo V6 from for Ford. It's a shame. Everything else is perfect and if love to be the proud owner of the 1794 edition. Not now though. I'm heart broken.
2 big things for me. 1.engine. I wanted the V8 or diesel. That really bothers me. To the 10 speed, that would be great. Mate the hybrid to the 4.7 V8 to max power and efficiency. The diesel could have opened the heavy duty segment up. What about the diesel mated to the hybrid as they do now? That would have bonkers torque. 2. I miss the hood scoops. I think that made the tundra look unique over the others, even if the grillis are the same. I think the could have made the main scoop functional with the twin turbo/ increasing air to the v8. In adding the scoop/scoops would help lessen the complaint that it looks like GMC/Chevy. My 2 cents
That would not have been a bad idea using the 4.7 with the hybrid capabilities. Still maintain the smaller V8 while enhancing it electric system. Well done Mr. W.A. Harris!👍🏽 but I can also customers not wanting to let go of that 5.7 at all…
@@terencole1854 agreed. I think the 5.7 in general (optional supercharger), the twin turbo v6, the diesel they are using overseas (i think it's a v6 in the land cruiser), and the 4.7 v8 hybrid/ diesel hybrid)
The TTV6 Hybrid makes more horsepower and torque than the 5.0 Cummins in the Nissan Titan and any other diesel in the 1/2 ton segment. Probably gets better gas mileage too. I don’t know y’all why complaining.
@@Toe_Knee_69 not complaining just pointing out how the person that was explaining to the world how much better and stronger the new powertrain would be just literally said he wish they didn’t discontinue the V8 because it’s better..a walking contradiction
My opinion is that Chevy may have some gimmicky options, but they’re no good to anyone of the quality of the truck isn’t there. No one can touch the reliability of Toyota products. I’ll take a solid tailgate and a reliable vehicle any day.
My issue with the exterior design is not that it's hideous, but it's the fact that it seem Toyota didn't put any thought into brand identity. It look very similar to THAT GMC truck with a bit of Ford accents like the hood vents on the Raptor. The look is growing on me, and I think i will buy one eventually (maybe 10 years from now because I like to keep my Tundras as long as possible, and my 2008 have no major issues as of 200k miles).
All trucks looks the same now. When someone tries something different(example cyber truck) everyone hates that too?? So toyota just want the tundra to look the same as the other trucks on the market. There should be no complaints about why all trucks looks the same when everyone hated when one manufacturer wanted to try something new.
Not everyone wants that ridiculous tailgate, nor the ugly bumper holes that are found on GM trucks. Automatic 4WD isn't necessary, either. I agree on offering a heavy duty version as the new half-ton truck's max payload is a bit low. Styling is always subjective. I like the new Tundra's looks, but don't care for the GMC's design at all.
The reliable v8 is the reason tundra is so loved. For the engineers to kill it and not even offer it as an option is insulting. My current tundra may be my last.
@@02hreblue30 That was the only big issue with that v8. They should have at least tried to fix it. A 8 or 10 speed transmission mated to the v8. Fact is if you buy a 6000 pound truck with a V8 why whine about mpg?
Tundra is for the regular man that haul plants, costco, furniture, groceries, tvs. Works as engineer. Its not trying complete with american trucks for the construction, fishing boat towing, everyday heavy duty guys. Just like how Jeep Wrangler is made for college boys to drive with no doors. And nissan altima is made for no credit reckless drivers.
I will miss the 5.7 V8. I like a naturally aspirated V8 motor. We all know this new V6 turbo charged motor will be reliable. Toyota is quality, reliable, and dependable. Buy the Tundra. 👍
We really don’t know that. Recalls will happen and hybrid batteries have to be replaced so reliability is a moving target. The real question is will it be more or less reliable than the v8? I don’t think most people would say yes. Will it be more reliable than a Ram? Probably
@@boughtandpaidforautoreview1150 yes hybrid batteries need replaced. I had a Toyota Prius and had to replace the hybrid battery at 275K miles. My daughter drove it another 100K before trading it in. I would think if you can get 275K out of the hybrid battery that should be considered as pretty durable.
For the price they're going to charge you, for the brand new full size Toyota Tundra pick up truck, they should has still offered a V8 engine as option no excuse Toyota a miss Opportunity on Toyota part ,so it's a no go for me, Sorry Toyota 😫😫😭😭👎👎👎👎
Turbo motors are higher pressure, have more carbon build up, and 2 turbos that can break. Great engines when they work. But recycling engine exhaust is a hot high pressure constant stress on the motor. I would bet Toyota does it better than anyone else but still it cannot be more reliable than the out going v8. That said, it's probably more reliable than your other options from competition
Really the only reason I'd consider the Tundra is for long term reliability. Although, we're sure about these new motors. I agree they should have kept the 5.7l V8. Very disappointing.
Thanks for some honest opinion. My biggest complaint is the lack of 4wd auto. It’s a must have feature in Alaska where conditions change from snowy side roads to clear main roads. I also don’t like where the 4wd switch is or how it’s designed
Look David these are just quibbles.Toyota will be VERY GLAD to sell 250,000 of these every year and I think they will. They are the best at researching exactly what their customers want and I think they nailed it with this new generation.On the adoption of the V6, Toyota had to offer a more modern power train that gets more hp and torque numbers as the old V8.There's the option of a turbocharged hybrid that beats any hp numbers from GMs V8s. You conveniently failed to mention that Ford has been offering turbocharged V6 engines in it's F-150 for almost a decade now with pretty much zero issues reported. The fact is that eventually, inefficient V8s will have to give way to turbo fours,sixes and eventually full electrification. The Tundra has always had extremely loyal customers and I don't think they're going to be swayed by your questionable demarketing efforts.I happen to be one of them.
Agree 100% but also as a Toyota owner and a 2020 F250 diesel/platinum/tremor owner, the overall content between the trucks is not even close. Side spotlights, actual cooled seats, upfitter switches, oem winch options, on and on. I’m not a brand loyalist, but Toyota has underestimated that it is hard to acquire “conquest customers” when all you really offer is supposedly better QDR. Domestic trucks are pretty strong on QDR already.
David, I have a feeling there is going to be a NEW premium level tundra... Luxury comfort beyond the platinum and 1794... I also think they NEED to build a truck for truck guys. I hate all of the infotainment bullpucky. I don't need a back up trailer assist because my dad taught me how to back a trailer as a right of passage... My perfect truck: 1. monster towing (like 3/4ton towing) who cares the fuel mileage when towing... 2. Great fuel mileage when NOT towing(25+mpg)...3. AC... 4. Diff lock front and rear... 5. Off road terrain tires that are not too noisy (general grabber at3)...6. a simple clean sounding stereo system with USB and audio ports and bluetooth. 6+ Maybe throw in a luxury or 2, like power windows and locks. In other words I want a TRUCK not a soft family sedan!
There's nothing impressive or unique about the new Tundra and they didn't do anything to elevate it above its competitors. Plastic bumpers, no tow hooks and weak tow/payload numbers are a big disappointment. Serious truck guys still won't take the tundra seriously
You’re right about the feel of the V-8 and the way it compares to the TTV-6. Thanks again for your timely and expert reviews. By the way, that’s a gorgeous red GMC truck.
@automotivepress - How are you certain that the Tundra will not offer a bench seat in the front for any model? I have not seen anything from Toyota on that and it is a deal breaker for me.
Great video! Especially the NO V8!! I said it all along Toyota screwed this one up I have seen so many people I’m talking about hundreds just myself that will not purchase this vehicle because of no V8.
I agree with all of the criticisms. When I found that they had eliminated the V8 option, I decided not to buy the new Tundra; I did buy the GMC Sierra SLT. Nice truck and smooth like he's described.
Thanks for an objective take on Tundra David. I’m considering the Pro, but I can’t get over how gaudy that stamped tailgate looks. One of the first things I’d do is find someone with a non pro to swap tailgates with
Better yet, a plug-in hybrid (with the V8 or even the new turbo V6). Then one can drive on electric all week and have the gas engine to tow and go long distances on the weekend. Plus, with the larger plug-in hybrid battery pack, they have way more current available and can REALLY add some hp/torque to the overall numbers. Just look at the little Toyota RAV4 Prime. That little thing makes some great hp/torque and 0-60 numbers. Hope they do something similar to the Tundra.
Yes they should have ,an why can’t they make a 5.7 twin turbo? They even could have kept the old 5.7 an done something to increase the fuel mileage an used the 10 speed?? Tons of buyers would have bought that truck !!!
@@baseline4102 i may be mistaken or did I read that either they have produced or paling on producing a V-12 turbo in there Australia version of the tundra but I may very well be mistake .
Couldn’t finish watching. Complains about the engine performance but hasn’t driven it lol. I’m interested in what the twin turbo hybrid option will perform.
Thank you for your comments. Actually if you look at my previous videos (more than 100 on Tundra's) and this video, I didn't complain anything about the twin turbo V-6 engine on the Tundra. I only said that it would have been better to have additional options for the V8 and diesel. Please see my previous videos where I talk about the twin turbo engine.
Thank you for your honesty in reevaluating the decision of Toyota to drop the great 5.7. The 6 will be a disappointment. Those slamming you for your honesty only want justification for them wanting to buy it. I see you as trying to have them avoid disappointment. Also not having tow hooks is crazy. Your other observations are spot on. Dropping the 8 and not replacing with a diesel is not wise. Tundra owners since I bought my 07 Crewmax new have been asking for a diesel option also so Toyota had years to do it. Your honesty in your reviews is a breath of fresh air compared to the other reviewers on UA-cam that sound more like fawning salesmen then honest reviewers.
What are total diesel sales in the US? I'll tell you. Not enough for Toyota to care. Theyre appealing to a different market. If you need a diesel, you can buy a Ford, GM, or ram.
Im sorry that you don’t really like the 2022 Tundra David. I actually love the TRD Pro Look inside and outside. Its a badass looking truck! My friend was about to buy a 2021 BMW M4 and I showed him couple videos on the TRD Pro Tundra. He also said it looks badass and he’s actually changing his mind about the m4! 🤣 He never had a Toyota before and this new 2022 TRD Pro Tundra got him hooked! 😍
It isn't that he doesn't like it, it's just some things that Toyota didn't add that he's commented on. I bought a new truck and I really like it but there's always something I wish the manufacturer had thought about adding or changed.
The lack of auto 4wd is an absolute head scratcher for me. Honestly it’s probably the biggest reason I nkow don’t have the desire to purchase it. Lack of V8 option would be 2nd but that I could overlook with the power and torque of the TT V6.
@@edkrassenstein5534 you can’t really say too much yet because fords eco boost in the f-150 has been pretty reliable and they’ve been around for a while now. Knowing Toyota they’d be even more reliable.
The turbos have me worried a little to, but I think Toyota has been building turbo diesels all over the world for years now, how will the turbos hold up in cold North American winters
To everyone who’s own different car manufacturers, have any of their cars reached a million miles? Toyota did. Think about it. Toyota spends more time developing engines to last so you don’t just throw money out the door on repairs. Than focusing on luxury items to make you look pretty.
David, that split tailgate has been causing big dents for GM/Chevy. When you deploy split tailgate and you have a tow hitch in the receiver that split section hits the two hitch every time.
I dont think most people that are aware of how the tailgate works are actually damaging it that way. Is it a design flaw? Sure but it's easy to avoid having that issue. If someone couldn't figure out how to avoid denting their tailgate like that, they probably have no business being on the road at all.
that tail gate on the gmc is 8000 to replace and auto 4x4 burns up shift motors just look at the 99-06 style and we all know cylinder deactivation kills the gm motor shame the left the ls motor behind
Why have a multi-use tailgate that you can use as a step to get into the bed and also an integrated side step which also helps get into the bed?. Seems a little redundant in my opinion. I like the simple tailgate from toyota paired with the side step. Seems much more simple and less gimmicky than a multi tailgate that has more stuff that can break.
I had a 2019 denali and the tailgate was one of the best parts. Had no issues with it, it was super easy to get in and out of the truck and I used it as a small bed extender quite often. It was a great feature and next to the tow hooks is, in my opinion the biggest omission from the new tundra.
I'm in total agreement with you Lord J. Plus you got to have tow hooks it's a truck ! I don't like the idea that it might be some overpriced accessory.
The problem with the GMC or Chevy multifunction tailgate is the trailer hitch. Looking at the drop down when you opened the tailgate it would hit the hitch. Am I wrong about that?
Wow… you just shot me in the Heart. I have a 2021 Trail-boss 6.2L and tho I love this truck, I am looking forward on trading it for the 22’ Tundra. Dependability is my #1 concern with these (GM) trucks. They have been having lifter issues at 3,000k smh. And I can’t trust it.
I can tell you confidently that Toyota tested the heck out of the new power train and it's components all over the US for a million miles and found no issues with it.The same engine is found in their flagship Land Cruiser LC300 and they wouldn't mess with it's reputation earned over 70 years by putting in an unreliable engine in that would they? The fact is the V8 was great and all but 14mpg is unacceptable in 2021 even if gas is dirt cheap.Ford has been offering 75% of it's F150s with the 3.5l Ecoboost for years without significant issues with the turbos. Turbos just have an unfairly earned reputation as unreliable and this is spread by uninformed folks.
GM sells more than any other company combining GMC and Chevy Trucks. That is several hundred thousand trucks a year. Only a few percent were affected by lifter issues but that is a lot for a high volume seller. Unfortunately the customers that buy these are some of the biggest complainers. Including me. My 2020 Trailboss has been flawless this far. Love that beast.
@@josephkraft5640 I normally don’t like to complain, but when you drop 63k on a truck you would expect for it to run at least 50k without any issues. Some people have issues at 900 miles, 3000k miles and 5000k miles. I would hate for it to happen to me while I’m in another state. Thanks for your input tho
@@Jsuazzo I agree. Pick of the litter. Some are fantastic and some can be problematic. I too trust Toyota’s reliability over all others as a general rule. I’ll probably buy one because of that -but I’ve owned Fords and Chevys and they have been great vehicles so far.
Yeah but isnt electric steering a requirement for lane keep assist which means Sierra and F150 will be moving in that direction as they catch up on lane keep?
They should’ve kept their 5.7 liter and improved on it it’s sad that a reliable company like Toyota went with a 3.5 v6 that will turn away a lot of people not to mention they still haven’t done any 2500/3500 trucks rams Laramie Longhorns trucks are still the nicest on the market good try though
Top 5 complaints No optional V8 No optional diesel No shift on the fly 4WD No version of Ram boxes No version of Ram multifunction tailgate. Should also do top 5 improvements
Even though payload is more than before, still seems way low in many of the trim levels...especially for towing near the towing limit...not enough payload for higher tongue/pin weights.
Toyota says they go strictly by towing standards and don't fudge their numbers. I have put 1800 pounds in the back of my 2015 Platinum and I had no issues. A friend of mine said he dented and put a hole into his F150 bed loading supplies dor a camping trip. He had that Ford for 6 months before going back to a 2nd generation Tundra. He said he made a mistake going to a Ford.
David always proving his worth, providing an unbiased opinion. Not only such a reliable source but utilizes a the platform for sharing info with the consumers. Always will be following all while spreading your word to others in the marketplace.
‼️David Your 10 disappointments are all valid 👍🏻. I would add: 11- The Tundra’s tires look incredibly small (profile view - Toyota’s own photos) compared to the truck’s design and size. 12- The front and rear overhangs (axles to bumpers distance) are still longer than the competition’s (Toyota love long overhangs on all its vehicles for some reason). Also … the front bumper (bottom part) is angled downwards … an awkward design. 13- You can look straight through the truck in profile (9.34) and looks unfinished and odd. 14- The interior center console big monitor is positioned too high. Should have been an inch lower … (and hopefully it is the latest tech with an easy and quick dimmable feature, and that the blacks are pure blacks without any light bleed (night time driving). 15- I still wish the standard ground clearance was higher. It’s a truck … it is a vehicle that you have to climb (and crawl :) into almost regardless of your personal stature … so another two or three inches of standard ground clearance and bigger tires and bigger wheel wells (for aftermarket additions) would have been great. But, perhaps that’s just me …
The first thing I thought when I saw that center console was that it was designed for a 12" screen and they last minute decided to throw a 14" one in there to 1-up the competition.
Trd pro, only one choice for motorisation, the hybride one, with the battery under the back seats, taking out a very important and useful storage spaces
A big deal for me was the hybrid battery location underneath the backseat. This takes away a big storage area I used in my GMCtruck. I was seriously thinking about buying the hybrid but that is a killer for me.
Well, coming from a Toyota engineer I think we can’t argue, anyway the new tundra I guess is not coming to Mexico, so we’ll keep our 2015 limited for a while still, 0 issues with it and yes that v8 sounds pretty damn good
@@Enforcer0623 I didn't bring it up. Correcting with facts. Do you know it's subjective opinion? Oh wait you used the 💯 so you must. Accurate internet perspective
@@Enforcer0623 but the first comment said coming from a Toyota engineer. The only person from Toyota's engineering team publicly speaking on the truck is Mike Sweers. This guy is just someone that says they love Toyota vehicles. He is about as reliable as you and me when it comes to the new Toyota Tundra.
@@Enforcer0623 read for clarity. I said the first comment, not your comment. Instead of trying to justify something, take time to read and thoroughly understand.
I love my 2020 tundra and was real excited to see the new 2022 but I’m not as excited as I was, I’m up in the air with the new look and I really like the 5.7 iforce
David, I agree with you on most all your points. Here is mine 1. No v8 2. No big generator/inverter on hybrid 3. No tow hooks/ recovery points 4. No rear step in bumper 5. No front bench seat option 6. Side tail gate button not standard on all trims 7. Not enough front cup holder (unless I missed them in the photos) 8. Large screen looks invasive and an after thought in dash 9. Not auto 4x4 10. Styling of front bumper and somewhat rear bumper Currently own a Toyota Highlander, really appreciate its reliability. Would have considered a Tundra as our next pickup truck however I feel there are too many misses on the new design. Will probably go with a North American manufacturer until Toyota addresses these short comings.
Thanks once again David. When you do get the opportunity to drive one, please report on your findings for turbo lag. Even Mike Sweers mentions turbo lag when discussing the hybrid model. Mike also states that the old V8 has federal restrictions that would be difficult to meet. But I do think they could have made the V6TT as the base and continue to offer the V8 as an option. Down the road it would be interesting what that would do to resale or KBB value.
I too wish they would have kept the 5.7 V8 as an optional engine. Even though the fuel economy is not that great, It's still 3-5 mpg better than I'm currently getting with my F150 5.0 Windsor engine
The auto 4WD in GMC is something that i wouldn't recommend using . Two of my friends had to replace the transfer case because they left it in auto mode while driving on dry pavement.
Take everything with a grain of salt. My father in-law bought a brand new Chevy Suburban back in 2008. He's had it for over 12 years now and it has been on Auto 4WD mode this entire time. No mechanical issues at all. We live in a snowy climate as well so I imagine it is working hard in winter, and almost not at all in summer.
I had a 2019 denali and the auto mode made weird squeeking/squeeling sounds. When I took it to the dealer they told me gmc told them it wasn't supposed to be left in thst mode and to only use it in the rain or at lower than highway speeds. Not sure what the point of an auto awd system is if you're not supposed to use it.
The auto 4WD uses clutch plates to drive the front wheels. Since it has more clutches, it grabs harder than AWD systems found in crossovers. It's not a locking transfer case, more so locking clutch plates. They do wear over time. There's a reason why the Ram Power Wagon doesn't have 4WD auto.
I happen to like the styling. But I have two questions. Do you know if they have made any improvements to the JBL sound system. I love the top of the line sound system in my 2016 Platinum Tundra. I'm not seeing anything in the ads about the sound system/stereo. Also, have they upgraded from the ventilated front seats to AIR CONDITIONED front seats? It makes a great difference in the summer. Some people think ventilated seats mean air conditioned, it doesn't. My other vehicle, a Ford Edge has Air Conditioned and heated front seats. Thank you for all you do.
Just finished your video, I agree with you, there should be a Bench Seat option, a bumper step would be nice. A single piece steel bumper would be a better choice. I would love to have a Diesel. I won’t be buying a Twin Turbo Engine, or any Hybrid. I guess my 2021 will be my last Toyota if the don’t smarten up and offer things customers want. An improved 5.7, and a Diesel.
I haven’t really driven any vehicle with electronic steering so I’m not sure how reliable they are compare to hydraulic system that’s been proven to be so reliable for many years. How are you going to control the vehicle if something goes wrong with any of the electronic devices that controls the steering system while you are driving?
EDIT: I'm really disappointed in the lack of pricing information and availability date - seems they could have figured that out by now. David - Good points on your disappointments. I'm looking forward to your review on the GMC and then getting a good comparison when you finally get to drive the 2022 Tundra. Do you the fuel economy on the new Tundra will be a little bit lower than the LC300 but not too far off? I'll be upgrading from a 2006 Tundra to the new Tundra as soon as I can and I'm looking to maximize towing and payload capacity. Seems to me, the base engine will do that as the hybrid will likely lose some payload.
Is a “pro power” type inverter offered on the new tundra? Camping would be so much easier with on board power. Cooking, boiling water, etc. No more hassle with propane.
@@gwot Yeah but the thing is, if you use the 12V system, the power output is usually limited by the alternator, to, say, 400W / 100W for most Toyota models, and if you go beyond that, you run the risk of draining the start-up battery even if the car is running. And if you tap into the high voltage hybrid system, then a proper inverter is hard to find and safety is an issue. The ideal situation would be that a proper high output inverter is offered from the factory, that uses the over 1kwh hybrid battery which is already there. When the battery drops to say 20%, the truck switches on its engine automatically and charges for a few minutes, just like other hybrid models from Toyota, then you can enjoy another kWh of electrical energy. As long as you have gas, you have limitless energy. Not to mention the ability to power your travel trailer, no more battery pack/charge controller/inverter/solar panels on your RV, no more portable generator/jerry cans/maintenance, no more propane tanks/refills/safety hazards, what a relief that would be. It would make the Tundra the perfect RV tow-er, since it should be more reliable and rust-free than the F150 hybrid. You unhook the trailer and instantly gain back all the offroad ability offered by a truck. An inverter Toyota! Just an inverter! It doesn't even have to be standard... offer it as an option... oh...
@@lgccyy I wonder if the hybrid Tundra even has an alternator. But I totally forget about the alternator output, was just thinking about running off the battery alone. Also referring back to what i said... TOYOTA, can just put in an inverter for a few hundred bucks instead! it does have a 120v 400w plug... so.. that's something? just limited to low powered things. The chief engineer did mention in another video that the increase cost of a built in generator would be more expensive than just buying a generator, so their excuse was from a pure cost point of view is that there's no value in it when you can buy one for cheaper. They don't care about the convenience that comes from it.
This should have been titled, "10 things I love about the Sierra"
😂😂
I agree. This is just silly. Why would you do a video about a Toyota with a GMC? He gives a great rundown of the GMC, inside and out. Lol
I agree. Complaint #1 if you're gonna make a tundra video, make sure you have a tundra.
Does he even own a pickup truck at all? They should.. that's all he's saying. And has a GMC as an example. What a moron.
Completely agree... toyota is trying to copy name brand genuine GM, because they know they're much better☝️
Fancy tailgates are heavier when you need to remove them and are more expensive to replace when you damage them.
i had the toughest time removing the tailgates off of denalies to spray the beds of gmc’s. i grew some muscles removing those tailgates lol.
Yeah, not really a fan of those tailgates. Does anyone even use them?
my boss with a 2020 denali and the hud has a fat crack in the windshield...cant get a replacement.
he also said his truck is worth 70k because its loaded with options.
im tempted to sell my 18 sierra 6.2l
I don't like those tailgates on the gmc they are useless if you have a trailer on or if you lift them.
Actually,as an old guy with bad knees it's nice.
Let’s be honest. Most aren’t buying a Tundra because it has the best looks or features. We’re buying it because it has the highest reliability, longevity and quality build in its class. If I was leasing a truck and didn’t care about the previously mentioned things, I’d get a RAM 1500 all day long. I’m here for quality. If the other items are in the same ballpark, I’m happy. I wouldn’t trust that GMC or RAM past 5yrs w/o quality issues occurring. I wouldn’t blink an eye with the Tundra past 10yrs+. The fact that a Dodge RAM is now called a RAM speaks volumes of its proven lack of quality in my book. Is it possible the new RAM’s quality has increased, probably. Am I willing to bet $70k on it? Nope!
Totally agreed with you.
I agree…reliability is the” bread and butter of Toyota “according to the lead U.S. Toyota engineer.
Agreed.. but I get the point that a redesign from the ground up should have addressed some design flaws... rear storage for 1.. Ford put the batteries between the frame and the inverter.
A lot of that reliability came from the powertrain, which they completely changed.
Man I own a tundra, an I have to admit that dodge rebel is bad ass !
your 100% right…. a 2500 series a diesel a V8 option…. all would have put the tundra over the top
Despite it’s weird front end grill with no tow hooks you gotta give people what they want and truck eng. choices is more important than an info screen
I prefer the steps on the side bumpers more than the multi functional tailgate mainly because it interferes with the hitch if ur a guy that tows a lot
The multi function tailgate is fine until mud snow and ice gets on the hinges.
Gimmicks sells to folks. That was used because GMC ran out of really useful upgrades. They just make you pay extra for something you don't really need. I like that Toyota doesn't load their vehicles with gimmicks.
I use the massive step on the multiflex everyday. Best new thing on a pickup truck today. I can carry heavy stuff with two hands and walk straight out of the truck. Before i had to drop it on the gate, jump out, grab it. The side step on the bumper is a nice height to quickly jump over the gate.
@@captainbill8834
You won't say that if you log in Alaska.
The truck gets covered in mud. Any crevice will be filled with mud, pebbles, and vegetation. During winter, everything freezes.
You want everything to be simple.
I agree, Toyota doesn’t load their vehicles with gimmicks
For the everyday person that gets a new truck every 10 years and wants it to last and be reliable and to get decent mileage the tundra is much superior to the Sierra…
They all have problems dude lol. Tundra and there transmissions. Woooof
Sierra hd 2500 22 yrs, no problems and still going strong. We were going to buy a new Tundra but not now since they do not offer the bigger engine
@@shaneonews6791 the new tundra has a new transmission…
2018 Chevy 1500 and transmission went out at 90k miles. I'll def buy the Tundra over any gm product
To me, the lack of the V8 and full time 4wd are the main reasons I will not get one. Once you experience full time 4wd, you’ll never want a vehicle without it. It’s helpful in many situations that you don’t even think about!.
I think the biggest complaint on the old tundras is the MPG of the old V8. That biggest complaint of the lates updated is that the new MPG is not revealed, very dissappointing.
For me it is the loss of rear storage with the hybrid, no ability to fold up the seats and get a flat passenger area, no generator option with the hybrid, also I would love to have a Tundra Prime.
b!tching and complaining enough and they will put those in...like the 6.5' bed + crewmax. I got a feeling Toyota will put the 5.7L back after complaints.
I understand the absence of a generator, the volume Toyota does probably didn’t justify the R and D cost. Rear seat storage should have been thought out better with the hybrid.
Agreed. Since I use my truck, that is where all the gloves, bungees, straps, and tools go.
Agreed completely, I always fold up the seats and my dogs have tons of room to lay or sit without screwing up the leather in my 2014
@@Baebon6259 that would be nice if they listen to the people/customers.
I'm going to sit this out and see if they make improvements and make "Dave" and me a happier person in 2023.
David, my biggest disappointments with the Tundra are
Lack of standard two door cab
Lack of two door cab with 6.5 Foot, and 8 Foot Truck Box.
Loosing the 5.7 V8. Other manufacturers have figured out how to make V8’s more efficient.
Is almost like they don't want to make money...
This has to be influenced by the supply shortages...
Lol more efficient v8
After you experience the hell I went through with GM's transmission you won't worry about that V8. They're building junk.
I can agree with that
GMs V8 5.3L & the 6.2L transmission issues, have they been resolved and which year did you have that problem with?
I just recently replaced my transmission in a 2017 suburban. GM service dept frowned when asked if my 2017 Silverado would be the same. Toyota here I come!!
I had a 2017-- trans went bad at 50k miles. Truck spent a total of 70 days in the shop. GM finally put a remanufactured trans in as replacement and the same problems began again. Shake, jump, bump whinning and burn smell etc. I asked them to look at the torque converter too and they refused. In the end the notes for my last visit said GM engineers are well aware of the problem -- no fix at this time. I concluded they don't live up to their warranty. After 40 years buying Chevys I'm done. Refer to 8l45 and 8l90 transmission class action lawsuits. Also on GM authority-- it says GM argued in court the trucks need not be warranted because this is a design defect not workmanship or materials. Design defect isn't covered.
@@DS-cw8pm yep sounds about right I am going through the same thing with my 2021 Silverado. Bad brake caliper and they are giving me a run around. This is why I don’t buy extended warranties from dealerships because if you can’t honor the warranty that comes with the truck why should I buy your extended warranty
A guy I work with bought a brand new GMC Sirrea last year. Last week the transmission blew with only 18K miles on it! Toyota only for me!
It’s shame that new tundra doesn’t have the multiple plug ins in the back. Like the f-150 hybrid can be used as a generator if your
working in the middle of no where.
I agree...that 7.2 kw Power Boost is amazing...Hope Toyota picks up this option.
They literally caught up to 2019 pick-ups. Absolutely nothing new.
A contractor mentioned that he doesn't care about the built in generator, because for his type of work he needs a mobile generator, and you can't drive your truck everywhere, or plug a really long extension. That being said, just buy an inverter for a few hundred bucks and you can use any vehicle as a generator.
for a normal user it's just a gimmick
All tools are now cordless, I have cordless air compressor and nail gun, also cordless chisel hammer, cordless worm drive. If I need a generator i use my generator lol,
Honestly I think this is Trial era, I think Toyota is going to bring back the V8 option, after complaints about it being dropped they have to listen to customer demand.
I have to tell you though, that gmc interior looks bland compared to the TUNDRA. No comparison at all. I understand your other complaints though.
@@BGood496 it is cheap. As the truck ages the plastic parts fall off.
I agree with David seven of the 10 things, but I love to have the shifter in the middle .
With all I do with a truck a front bench seat is not necessary
Yup the gm interior is pretty dated and plasticy. The 2022 gm interior is much improved
It does look bland even compared to my 2019 Tundra.
‘22 Sierras have refreshed interiors that look better than the Tundra imo
Need a new truck but will wait til 2023 or switch brands what's your thoughts on Nissan?
Allow me to sum this up. Beyond cosmetic opinion, the primary disappointment is the powertrain. We all exist in the interim between full electrification and hybrid vehicles. Like it or not, this is the period before full electrification becomes standard.
I am the proud owner of an 18' Platinum with the 5.7. The V8 is a beautifully audible workhorse, but has the same drawbacks as any other large ICE.
My humble consensus: all V8 powerhouse, or make the jump to fully electric. The interim feels like a temporary joke. Cheers.
Thank you tundra for keeping it simple,durable and cheap.The last thing I need in a truck is more sensors and buttons.
we don't know if it will be durable or cheap.
@@hubgold487 True ,I think they took all reliability out in 2022
Cheap?? Uh ...I don't think so....
37.6K starting price for a baseline Tundra is far from cheap. Baseline for GMC w/v6 is 30.1K
Flat loading floor in the back and a 4wheel auto option, is that too much to ask?
The number one feature in a Tundra that I look for is the power rear window which retracts, like what I have in my 2005 model. I need that natural air flow in the cabin.
It's one of, if not my favorite thing about my Tundra
I believe my dad has that feature on his 2002 Tundra
😍 my 2006!!!
I agree. I have a 2004 Tundra and love the retractable rear window.
I have a 2006 Tundra and love the sliding back window
A suffering six with a turbo is still a suffering six...... Agree on the grill and the blacked out A pillars really turn me off. At least paint the bumper under the grill and the A pillars. Give me a column shift in the SR5 and more storage in the console.
Had V8 Toyota's for 20 years. Sad to see them go. The TT6 configuration doesn't sit well with me, nor the steering. Would have preferred V6+hybrid or V8+hybrid, no Turbo.
no one cares
What was Toyota thinking with a 1,240 lbs. payload ! My Ford Flex has 1,100 lbs. payload. The Ram 1500 Classic 4x4 crew cab (5.7 Hemi V8) has 1,950 lbs. and this GMC has, I'm sure, at least a 2,000 lbs. payload. The new Tundra with four people, full tank of gas and the odd bit of baggage wont be able to hitch up any travel trailer or an ATV in the box or a bowl of gold fish ! So, buying a Tundra means you get a brand new truck to ride in but can't do much else with it. Unbelievable !
The worse thing thing about the Tundra is the look of the front end. The size of the grill compared to the rest of the truck, looks massive! Add to it the black paint on the bumper below the grill, makes it look that much bigger. The head lamp assembly is too small for that large grill. The infotainment screen is a joke. It is way too high off the dash. The rear of the truck is too plain. Toyota should have used the example of the 2021 Tacoma for styling. It is sculpted and looks crisp and mean. The angles of the headlamps, body side moldings and rear bumper has style.
I love your honesty and fairness.
Chevy Tahoe - 15k miles = replace the whole radiator! At 25k miles = replace the whole Engine! Toyota 15 years of no = No Major Repairs! It's your money, your choice!
1. No V-8 engine
2. Wheels & tires (ugly & small)
3. Front grille (too BIG & cheap plastic)
4. Rear bumper integration with body
5. No TRD duel exhaust
6. Cheap plastic fender flares
7. Ugly bubble tailgate
8. Extra long hood with no scoop
9. Fog lights placement looks ugly
10. Huge screen not integrated
You missed 11. The reduced fuel capacity down to 23 vs 38 gallons. Thats significant. Also 12. The higher gear ratio becoming standard with no lower gear option. Toyota made the new Tundra an over priced grocery getter.
I do wish they had kept the V8. Probably the biggest gripe nowadays with any truck.
I would like to have a V8 engine option, 4 wheel auto. And I think the front of the truck would look much better if the center grill would remain black with the full lower bumper would be all one color and not divided by black or chrome
Chrome is for luxury models. Black is TRD White and Black. Hopefully there is a lower model with painted ones.
#1 dissappointment for me is the low payload numbers. #2 hybrid engine not available in the Sr trim. #3 no benchseat. Overall dissappointed in Toyotas decision to treat working customers who need strong work trucks as an afterthought.
How about no onboard generator with the iforce max engine. That 400 watt plug in the bed isnt enough. Would be nice to have what ford has with the hybrid f150.
Yeah they asked people that were in construction, not home owners that would use that feature
You’re review is great but you’re being too kind. I’ve had 4 tundras and two Fords. Not a fan of twin turbos and electronic garbage (steering for instance). I’ve blown a turbo in a Ford and it’s stupid expensive to fix. Trucks in general these days have way too many ridiculous lines in the name of aesthetics and excitement, and too much crap under the hood. Not offering a diesel or V8 and going to electric controls is a mistake IMO.
I love the reliability of the Toyota Tundra. I have the 2019 Tundra 1794 and I love it. I love the V8 and I am not sold on the V6 at all. I will never be able to get another Tundra, unless it comes with a V8.
Sucks for you g
The new styling is way nicer than the older models lol
Toyota dropped the ball on this Tundra. Buyers always want options and bells and whistles what really sells the products. I’m sticking with my tundra V8, thank you very much.
Biggest disappointment (other than the styling): the hybrid battery takes up storage space in the cabin. The F150 hybrid manages to place the battery outside the cabin
I agree with this and some models like the Pro are hybrid only so you have nowhere inside the truck for tools and equipment.
I agree it takes up a ton of space in the cabin. I also don't want a big toxic high voltage battery in my cabin. But the white TRD Pro looks so sweet that I might just deal with it.
@@tomjohnson8737 you can't fit hardly anything back there lol
@@tomjohnson8737 I said tools and equipment. Stop trying to defend stupid design choices. Telling anyone that actually uses a truck for what it's ment for that there's enough storage behind the seat is idiotic. We wouldn't be having this conversation if Toyota would put just the basic things you would expect a truck to have in the truck.
@@tomjohnson8737 Toyota is mad they can't sell even half the amount of trucks Ford does.
The only thing you need in a car or truck is dependable and reliable. There no such thing as the perfect one. It may be perfect for you but not to others.
You can’t ever make people happy they will always complain.. honestly when you sit in that gmc looks the same for past 20 years like tundra did
Exactly. People talk about how much improvement the US truck manufacturers make and what I see are tonight looking interiors. I have test driven Chevy, Fords and GMCs often just for the fun of it. They are often cheap looking inside with a lot of plastic.
@@renatoslife5373 .yes and they are problematic. The only decent engines are the 5.0 Ford.and the 6.0 on chevi- heavy duty the rest are junk.
Hey guys, be real, all of the interiors are plastic. GM & Dodge seem to have figured out how to increase fuel efficiency with their V8’s.
I wish Toyota would, and keep the 5.7. It’s a great engine. Offer the new V6 TT option, offer a Diesel option. Don’t stick us with one
Choice, and before someone comments on the Hybrid option, you’re still stuck with the V6 Twin Turbo. Talk to anyone with an F150
With 200K + Km’s, ask them what they have spent on maintenance.
@@ramiroescamilla7263 VERY PROBLEMATIC! no a guy that works at the mines and there trucks are always breaking. Never had that problem when they were using tundras. He is begging them to return. Toyota reliability is unmatched.
I can't believe they lost the iForce V8. That was a 400,000 mile motor. That twin turbo V6 will be nothing but trouble after 150,000 miles. Just like that eco boost twin turbo V6 from for Ford. It's a shame. Everything else is perfect and if love to be the proud owner of the 1794 edition. Not now though. I'm heart broken.
2 big things for me.
1.engine. I wanted the V8 or diesel. That really bothers me. To the 10 speed, that would be great. Mate the hybrid to the 4.7 V8 to max power and efficiency. The diesel could have opened the heavy duty segment up. What about the diesel mated to the hybrid as they do now? That would have bonkers torque.
2. I miss the hood scoops. I think that made the tundra look unique over the others, even if the grillis are the same. I think the could have made the main scoop functional with the twin turbo/ increasing air to the v8. In adding the scoop/scoops would help lessen the complaint that it looks like GMC/Chevy.
My 2 cents
That would not have been a bad idea using the 4.7 with the hybrid capabilities. Still maintain the smaller V8 while enhancing it electric system. Well done Mr. W.A. Harris!👍🏽 but I can also customers not wanting to let go of that 5.7 at all…
@@terencole1854 agreed. I think the 5.7 in general (optional supercharger), the twin turbo v6, the diesel they are using overseas (i think it's a v6 in the land cruiser), and the 4.7 v8 hybrid/ diesel hybrid)
The TTV6 Hybrid makes more horsepower and torque than the 5.0 Cummins in the Nissan Titan and any other diesel in the 1/2 ton segment. Probably gets better gas mileage too. I don’t know y’all why complaining.
@@Toe_Knee_69 not complaining just pointing out how the person that was explaining to the world how much better and stronger the new powertrain would be just literally said he wish they didn’t discontinue the V8 because it’s better..a walking contradiction
quit talking fuckng V8. its gone
My opinion is that Chevy may have some gimmicky options, but they’re no good to anyone of the quality of the truck isn’t there. No one can touch the reliability of Toyota products. I’ll take a solid tailgate and a reliable vehicle any day.
My issue with the exterior design is not that it's hideous, but it's the fact that it seem Toyota didn't put any thought into brand identity. It look very similar to THAT GMC truck with a bit of Ford accents like the hood vents on the Raptor. The look is growing on me, and I think i will buy one eventually (maybe 10 years from now because I like to keep my Tundras as long as possible, and my 2008 have no major issues as of 200k miles).
Look at the 4runner. The Tundra shares A Lot of design cues from it.
It doesn’t look hideous at all, probably the best looking Tundra yet
I agree with everything you said except that look will not grow on me lol. I’m sticking to my 2004 Tacoma!
Ford is hideous
All trucks looks the same now. When someone tries something different(example cyber truck) everyone hates that too?? So toyota just want the tundra to look the same as the other trucks on the market. There should be no complaints about why all trucks looks the same when everyone hated when one manufacturer wanted to try something new.
Not everyone wants that ridiculous tailgate, nor the ugly bumper holes that are found on GM trucks. Automatic 4WD isn't necessary, either. I agree on offering a heavy duty version as the new half-ton truck's max payload is a bit low. Styling is always subjective. I like the new Tundra's looks, but don't care for the GMC's design at all.
The reliable v8 is the reason tundra is so loved. For the engineers to kill it and not even offer it as an option is insulting.
My current tundra may be my last.
Blame politics
Blame the Cafe standards, also wait until you aren't allowed to buy gas vehicles in NYC
sucks MPG. No excuses
@@02hreblue30 That was the only big issue with that v8. They should have at least tried to fix it. A 8 or 10 speed transmission mated to the v8. Fact is if you buy a 6000 pound truck with a V8 why whine about mpg?
No V8 means I’m buying a Ford.
Tundra is for the regular man that haul plants, costco, furniture, groceries, tvs. Works as engineer. Its not trying complete with american trucks for the construction, fishing boat towing, everyday heavy duty guys. Just like how Jeep Wrangler is made for college boys to drive with no doors. And nissan altima is made for no credit reckless drivers.
I will miss the 5.7 V8. I like a naturally aspirated V8 motor. We all know this new V6 turbo charged motor will be reliable. Toyota is quality, reliable, and dependable. Buy the Tundra. 👍
We really don’t know that. Recalls will happen and hybrid batteries have to be replaced so reliability is a moving target. The real question is will it be more or less reliable than the v8? I don’t think most people would say yes. Will it be more reliable than a Ram? Probably
@@boughtandpaidforautoreview1150 yes hybrid batteries need replaced. I had a Toyota Prius and had to replace the hybrid battery at 275K miles. My daughter drove it another 100K before trading it in. I would think if you can get 275K out of the hybrid battery that should be considered as pretty durable.
Nothing wrong with the Nissan Titan.
For the price they're going to charge you, for the brand new full size Toyota Tundra pick up truck, they should has still offered a V8 engine as option no excuse Toyota a miss Opportunity on Toyota part ,so it's a no go for me, Sorry Toyota 😫😫😭😭👎👎👎👎
Turbo motors are higher pressure, have more carbon build up, and 2 turbos that can break. Great engines when they work. But recycling engine exhaust is a hot high pressure constant stress on the motor. I would bet Toyota does it better than anyone else but still it cannot be more reliable than the out going v8. That said, it's probably more reliable than your other options from competition
Really the only reason I'd consider the Tundra is for long term reliability. Although, we're sure about these new motors. I agree they should have kept the 5.7l V8. Very disappointing.
Thanks for some honest opinion. My biggest complaint is the lack of 4wd auto. It’s a must have feature in Alaska where conditions change from snowy side roads to clear main roads. I also don’t like where the 4wd switch is or how it’s designed
And they’ll likely have to put it in the sequoia which is built on the same line in the same plant.
That was what I was waiting for. Everyone else has that feature.
seems pretty trivial imo. if the weather is that bad leave it on..
Look David these are just quibbles.Toyota will be VERY GLAD to sell 250,000 of these every year and I think they will. They are the best at researching exactly what their customers want and I think they nailed it with this new generation.On the adoption of the V6, Toyota had to offer a more modern power train that gets more hp and torque numbers as the old V8.There's the option of a turbocharged hybrid that beats any hp numbers from GMs V8s.
You conveniently failed to mention that Ford has been offering turbocharged V6 engines in it's F-150 for almost a decade now with pretty much zero issues reported.
The fact is that eventually, inefficient V8s will have to give way to turbo fours,sixes and eventually full electrification.
The Tundra has always had extremely loyal customers and I don't think they're going to be swayed by your questionable demarketing efforts.I happen to be one of them.
I know this guy knows infinitely more than I do about engines, but calling something from GMC "world class" seems to be a bit of stretch.
Agree 100% but also as a Toyota owner and a 2020 F250 diesel/platinum/tremor owner, the overall content between the trucks is not even close. Side spotlights, actual cooled seats, upfitter switches, oem winch options, on and on. I’m not a brand loyalist, but Toyota has underestimated that it is hard to acquire “conquest customers” when all you really offer is supposedly better QDR. Domestic trucks are pretty strong on QDR already.
David, I have a feeling there is going to be a NEW premium level tundra... Luxury comfort beyond the platinum and 1794... I also think they NEED to build a truck for truck guys. I hate all of the infotainment bullpucky. I don't need a back up trailer assist because my dad taught me how to back a trailer as a right of passage... My perfect truck: 1. monster towing (like 3/4ton towing) who cares the fuel mileage when towing... 2. Great fuel mileage when NOT towing(25+mpg)...3. AC... 4. Diff lock front and rear... 5. Off road terrain tires that are not too noisy (general grabber at3)...6. a simple clean sounding stereo system with USB and audio ports and bluetooth.
6+ Maybe throw in a luxury or 2, like power windows and locks. In other words I want a TRUCK not a soft family sedan!
I don't mind some luxury. But they focused on the infotainment system... it appears Toyota built the truck for techies...
There's nothing impressive or unique about the new Tundra and they didn't do anything to elevate it above its competitors. Plastic bumpers, no tow hooks and weak tow/payload numbers are a big disappointment. Serious truck guys still won't take the tundra seriously
You’re right about the feel of the V-8 and the way it compares to the TTV-6. Thanks again for your timely and expert reviews. By the way, that’s a gorgeous red GMC truck.
💯/💯…Your right / V6 👎 no mere the what and however strong…no no no.
You have driven a new Tundra?!?!
@automotivepress - How are you certain that the Tundra will not offer a bench seat in the front for any model? I have not seen anything from Toyota on that and it is a deal breaker for me.
Great video! Especially the NO V8!! I said it all along Toyota screwed this one up I have seen so many people I’m talking about hundreds just myself that will not purchase this vehicle because of no V8.
And it’s a turbo that will destroy the Toyota reliability.
That’s honestly a very stupid reason. The new motor is way better then the v8 it out performs in every way
I agree with all of the criticisms. When I found that they had eliminated the V8 option, I decided not to buy the new Tundra; I did buy the GMC Sierra SLT. Nice truck and smooth like he's described.
Thanks for an objective take on Tundra David. I’m considering the Pro, but I can’t get over how gaudy that stamped tailgate looks. One of the first things I’d do is find someone with a non pro to swap tailgates with
Seriously, the pro tailgate is SO awful looking! I hope that can be a "delete" option and then just get a regular one.
The whole truck is gaudy looking!!
I'm so glad you brought up the tow hook. I think you are one of the only reviewers who brought this up. Good on you
They should've kept the 5.7 v8 with the added hybrid motor with the 10 speed
Good point
Better yet, a plug-in hybrid (with the V8 or even the new turbo V6). Then one can drive on electric all week and have the gas engine to tow and go long distances on the weekend. Plus, with the larger plug-in hybrid battery pack, they have way more current available and can REALLY add some hp/torque to the overall numbers. Just look at the little Toyota RAV4 Prime. That little thing makes some great hp/torque and 0-60 numbers. Hope they do something similar to the Tundra.
Yes they should have ,an why can’t they make a 5.7 twin turbo? They even could have kept the old 5.7 an done something to increase the fuel mileage an used the 10 speed?? Tons of buyers would have bought that truck !!!
I think they drop the v8 engine because of the emissions , economy and hard government taxes and rules
Its a New era they have to face it bravely
@@baseline4102 i may be mistaken or did I read that either they have produced or paling on producing a V-12 turbo in there Australia version of the tundra but I may very well be mistake .
Couldn’t finish watching. Complains about the engine performance but hasn’t driven it lol. I’m interested in what the twin turbo hybrid option will perform.
Thank you for your comments. Actually if you look at my previous videos (more than 100 on Tundra's) and this video, I didn't complain anything about the twin turbo V-6 engine on the Tundra. I only said that it would have been better to have additional options for the V8 and diesel. Please see my previous videos where I talk about the twin turbo engine.
I think most of the companies bought f150 due to its mpg, hence toyota wants to compete with it. But still a V8 option would be good.
Toyota has increased the value of my 2014 Tundra by not offering a V8 in the new truck.
Thank you for your honesty in reevaluating the decision of Toyota to drop the great 5.7. The 6 will be a disappointment. Those slamming you for your honesty only want justification for them wanting to buy it. I see you as trying to have them avoid disappointment. Also not having tow hooks is crazy. Your other observations are spot on. Dropping the 8 and not replacing with a diesel is not wise. Tundra owners since I bought my 07 Crewmax new have been asking for a diesel option also so Toyota had years to do it. Your honesty in your reviews is a breath of fresh air compared to the other reviewers on UA-cam that sound more like fawning salesmen then honest reviewers.
What are total diesel sales in the US? I'll tell you. Not enough for Toyota to care. Theyre appealing to a different market. If you need a diesel, you can buy a Ford, GM, or ram.
That v6 twin turbo will make you forget about v8s
@@Anthony-qq2ue never, boosted gas engines do not last long as the tundra v8
@@titirititiri6360 says who
@@Anthony-qq2ue statistics, show me a boosted gas v6 with 1 million miles original motor and transmission??
No V8 is just heartbreaking.
Im sorry that you don’t really like the 2022 Tundra David. I actually love the TRD Pro Look inside and outside. Its a badass looking truck! My friend was about to buy a 2021 BMW M4 and I showed him couple videos on the TRD Pro Tundra. He also said it looks badass and he’s actually changing his mind about the m4! 🤣 He never had a Toyota before and this new 2022 TRD Pro Tundra got him hooked! 😍
It isn't that he doesn't like it, it's just some things that Toyota didn't add that he's commented on.
I bought a new truck and I really like it but there's always something I wish the manufacturer had thought about adding or changed.
mall crawler for 99%
That's cool, but how is an M4 and a pickup in the same discussion? I guess your friend is buying the truck for non truck related reasons...
Good video. Very detailed
The lack of auto 4wd is an absolute head scratcher for me. Honestly it’s probably the biggest reason I nkow don’t have the desire to purchase it. Lack of V8 option would be 2nd but that I could overlook with the power and torque of the TT V6.
TTV6 scares me. If I'm buying a new Tundra, I want no headaches for 500,000 miles. Turbos are just something to break in the extremely long term.
@@edkrassenstein5534 you can’t really say too much yet because fords eco boost in the f-150 has been pretty reliable and they’ve been around for a while now. Knowing Toyota they’d be even more reliable.
@@christ2054 yeah, and people say turbos now are way more reliable than they were 20 years ago. truthfully, I'll wait a year and try to get one used.
The turbos have me worried a little to, but I think Toyota has been building turbo diesels all over the world for years now, how will the turbos hold up in cold North American winters
To everyone who’s own different car manufacturers, have any of their cars reached a million miles? Toyota did. Think about it. Toyota spends more time developing engines to last so you don’t just throw money out the door on repairs. Than focusing on luxury items to make you look pretty.
David, that split tailgate has been causing big dents for GM/Chevy. When you deploy split tailgate and you have a tow hitch in the receiver that split section hits the two hitch every time.
I dont think most people that are aware of how the tailgate works are actually damaging it that way. Is it a design flaw? Sure but it's easy to avoid having that issue. If someone couldn't figure out how to avoid denting their tailgate like that, they probably have no business being on the road at all.
good old GM engineering.
that tail gate on the gmc is 8000 to replace and auto 4x4 burns up shift motors just look at the 99-06 style and we all know cylinder deactivation kills the gm motor shame the left the ls motor behind
Why have a multi-use tailgate that you can use as a step to get into the bed and also an integrated side step which also helps get into the bed?. Seems a little redundant in my opinion. I like the simple tailgate from toyota paired with the side step. Seems much more simple and less gimmicky than a multi tailgate that has more stuff that can break.
I had a 2019 denali and the tailgate was one of the best parts. Had no issues with it, it was super easy to get in and out of the truck and I used it as a small bed extender quite often. It was a great feature and next to the tow hooks is, in my opinion the biggest omission from the new tundra.
I'm in total agreement with you Lord J.
Plus you got to have tow hooks it's a truck ! I don't like the idea that it might be some overpriced accessory.
Very true. I prefer the simple tailgate as well.
The problem with the GMC or Chevy multifunction tailgate is the trailer hitch. Looking at the drop down when you opened the tailgate it would hit the hitch. Am I wrong about that?
Wow… you just shot me in the Heart. I have a 2021 Trail-boss 6.2L and tho I love this truck, I am looking forward on trading it for the 22’ Tundra. Dependability is my #1 concern with these (GM) trucks. They have been having lifter issues at 3,000k smh. And I can’t trust it.
I feel the same with my 21 Ram
I can tell you confidently that Toyota tested the heck out of the new power train and it's components all over the US for a million miles and found no issues with it.The same engine is found in their flagship Land Cruiser LC300 and they wouldn't mess with it's reputation earned over 70 years by putting in an unreliable engine in that would they?
The fact is the V8 was great and all but 14mpg is unacceptable in 2021 even if gas is dirt cheap.Ford has been offering 75% of it's F150s with the 3.5l Ecoboost for years without significant issues with the turbos.
Turbos just have an unfairly earned reputation as unreliable and this is spread by uninformed folks.
GM sells more than any other company combining GMC and Chevy Trucks. That is several hundred thousand trucks a year. Only a few percent were affected by lifter issues but that is a lot for a high volume seller. Unfortunately the customers that buy these are some of the biggest complainers. Including me. My 2020 Trailboss has been flawless this far. Love that beast.
@@josephkraft5640 I normally don’t like to complain, but when you drop 63k on a truck you would expect for it to run at least 50k without any issues. Some people have issues at 900 miles, 3000k miles and 5000k miles. I would hate for it to happen to me while I’m in another state. Thanks for your input tho
@@Jsuazzo I agree. Pick of the litter. Some are fantastic and some can be problematic. I too trust Toyota’s reliability over all others as a general rule. I’ll probably buy one because of that -but I’ve owned Fords and Chevys and they have been great vehicles so far.
How is the fuel tank on the pass side, but the fuel filler door is on the drivers side work?.....does fuel stay in the extended length neck?
About 3/4 though this video I was saying to myself, "I'm surprised he hasn't mentioned the electric steering!" You never disappoint haha
Yeah but isnt electric steering a requirement for lane keep assist which means Sierra and F150 will be moving in that direction as they catch up on lane keep?
They should’ve kept their 5.7 liter and improved on it it’s sad that a reliable company like Toyota went with a 3.5 v6 that will turn away a lot of people not to mention they still haven’t done any 2500/3500 trucks rams Laramie Longhorns trucks are still the nicest on the market good try though
6 passenger bench seat option is something I’ll miss. With so much interior space having a additional passenger option comes in handy.
It’s a huge bummer.
Top 5 complaints
No optional V8
No optional diesel
No shift on the fly 4WD
No version of Ram boxes
No version of Ram multifunction tailgate.
Should also do top 5 improvements
Even though payload is more than before, still seems way low in many of the trim levels...especially for towing near the towing limit...not enough payload for higher tongue/pin weights.
Toyota says they go strictly by towing standards and don't fudge their numbers. I have put 1800 pounds in the back of my 2015 Platinum and I had no issues. A friend of mine said he dented and put a hole into his F150 bed loading supplies dor a camping trip. He had that Ford for 6 months before going back to a 2nd generation Tundra. He said he made a mistake going to a Ford.
David always proving his worth, providing an unbiased opinion. Not only such a reliable source but utilizes a the platform for sharing info with the consumers. Always will be following all while spreading your word to others in the marketplace.
Thank you!
@@AutomotivePress proud to have found such a prestigious channel. Thank you sir!
‼️David
Your 10 disappointments are all valid 👍🏻.
I would add:
11- The Tundra’s tires look incredibly small (profile view - Toyota’s own photos) compared to the truck’s design and size.
12- The front and rear overhangs (axles to bumpers distance) are still longer than the competition’s (Toyota love long overhangs on all its vehicles for some reason). Also … the front bumper (bottom part) is angled downwards … an awkward design.
13- You can look straight through the truck in profile (9.34) and looks unfinished and odd.
14- The interior center console big monitor is positioned too high. Should have been an inch lower … (and hopefully it is the latest tech with an easy and quick dimmable feature, and that the blacks are pure blacks without any light bleed (night time driving).
15- I still wish the standard ground clearance was higher. It’s a truck … it is a vehicle that you have to climb (and crawl :) into almost regardless of your personal stature … so another two or three inches of standard ground clearance and bigger tires and bigger wheel wells (for aftermarket additions) would have been great. But, perhaps that’s just me …
Your #11 and #15 are probably deal breaker for me, not to mention lack of V8.
The first thing I thought when I saw that center console was that it was designed for a 12" screen and they last minute decided to throw a 14" one in there to 1-up the competition.
No. Was wondering if the 35s would even fit on that space!!!
@@1985HabsFanForever … that is what it appears like, yes.
I believe there is an option reg the screen size … 8 inch as standard, and 14 inch optional.
@@maxospreys2964 … we’ll just have to wait and see what the max wheel well “headroom” will be :)
Trd pro, only one choice for motorisation, the hybride one, with the battery under the back seats, taking out a very important and useful storage spaces
A big deal for me was the hybrid battery location underneath the backseat. This takes away a big storage area I used in my GMCtruck. I was seriously thinking about buying the hybrid but that is a killer for me.
Don't get the hybrid then bozo
then buy the gas model... cheaper and no batteries. Still better on gas with 11,000 lbs towing.
The biggest disappointments in the 2022 tundra are no V8, payload, and towing capacity
Well, coming from a Toyota engineer I think we can’t argue, anyway the new tundra I guess is not coming to Mexico, so we’ll keep our 2015 limited for a while still, 0 issues with it and yes that v8 sounds pretty damn good
He is not a Toyota engineer.
@@Enforcer0623 I didn't bring it up. Correcting with facts. Do you know it's subjective opinion? Oh wait you used the 💯 so you must. Accurate internet perspective
@@Enforcer0623 who is we ?
@@Enforcer0623 but the first comment said coming from a Toyota engineer. The only person from Toyota's engineering team publicly speaking on the truck is Mike Sweers. This guy is just someone that says they love Toyota vehicles. He is about as reliable as you and me when it comes to the new Toyota Tundra.
@@Enforcer0623 read for clarity. I said the first comment, not your comment. Instead of trying to justify something, take time to read and thoroughly understand.
I'm wondering 🤔 can you order the Trd pro without the electric generator motor ?
I love my 2020 tundra and was real excited to see the new 2022 but I’m not as excited as I was, I’m up in the air with the new look and I really like the 5.7 iforce
David, I agree with you on most all your points. Here is mine
1. No v8
2. No big generator/inverter on hybrid
3. No tow hooks/ recovery points
4. No rear step in bumper
5. No front bench seat option
6. Side tail gate button not standard on all trims
7. Not enough front cup holder (unless I missed them in the photos)
8. Large screen looks invasive and an after thought in dash
9. Not auto 4x4
10. Styling of front bumper and somewhat rear bumper
Currently own a Toyota Highlander, really appreciate its reliability. Would have considered a Tundra as our next pickup truck however I feel there are too many misses on the new design. Will probably go with a North American manufacturer until Toyota addresses these short comings.
Thanks once again David. When you do get the opportunity to drive one, please report on your findings for turbo lag. Even Mike Sweers mentions turbo lag when discussing the hybrid model. Mike also states that the old V8 has federal restrictions that would be difficult to meet. But I do think they could have made the V6TT as the base and continue to offer the V8 as an option. Down the road it would be interesting what that would do to resale or KBB value.
Boy are you going to cry when combustion engines are no longer available. 2030
Does the multifunctional tailgate from Chevy and GM not hit the pickup hitch?
I too wish they would have kept the 5.7 V8 as an optional engine. Even though the
fuel economy is not that great, It's still 3-5 mpg better than I'm currently getting with
my F150 5.0 Windsor engine
As much as I like a good old 5.0 small block, I can't imagine too many people out there even still drive a truck like yours.
@@BarnStangz plenty of old trucks used daily in the southwest where they don’t rot out
@@tomdavis3038 True, didn't think about that. Here in the Rust Belt stuff doesn't last too long...
Wasn't their a auto mode in the drive settings in the video?
The auto 4WD in GMC is something that i wouldn't recommend using . Two of my friends had to replace the transfer case because they left it in auto mode while driving on dry pavement.
Take everything with a grain of salt. My father in-law bought a brand new Chevy Suburban back in 2008. He's had it for over 12 years now and it has been on Auto 4WD mode this entire time. No mechanical issues at all. We live in a snowy climate as well so I imagine it is working hard in winter, and almost not at all in summer.
I had a 2019 denali and the auto mode made weird squeeking/squeeling sounds. When I took it to the dealer they told me gmc told them it wasn't supposed to be left in thst mode and to only use it in the rain or at lower than highway speeds. Not sure what the point of an auto awd system is if you're not supposed to use it.
The auto 4WD uses clutch plates to drive the front wheels. Since it has more clutches, it grabs harder than AWD systems found in crossovers. It's not a locking transfer case, more so locking clutch plates. They do wear over time. There's a reason why the Ram Power Wagon doesn't have 4WD auto.
Use auto all the time in my GM trucks over the years, never been an issue.
No issues on my 2014 yet.
I happen to like the styling. But I have two questions. Do you know if they have made any improvements to the JBL sound system. I love the top of the line sound system in my 2016 Platinum Tundra. I'm not seeing anything in the ads about the sound system/stereo. Also, have they upgraded from the ventilated front seats to AIR CONDITIONED front seats? It makes a great difference in the summer. Some people think ventilated seats mean air conditioned, it doesn't. My other vehicle, a Ford Edge has Air Conditioned and heated front seats. Thank you for all you do.
Just finished your video, I agree with you, there should be a Bench Seat option, a bumper step would be nice.
A single piece steel bumper would be a better choice.
I would love to have a Diesel. I won’t be buying a Twin Turbo Engine, or any Hybrid.
I guess my 2021 will be my last Toyota if the don’t smarten up and offer things customers want.
An improved 5.7, and a Diesel.
Just wait till the bullshit electric trucks come out . Sorry Toyota you lost a fan and will be going back to Chevy or even Ram
Don’t worry the next truck you’ll buy won’t have a v8 it’ll have an electric motor and you’re going to love it.
@@michaelriecher5632 nope
At this rate, add a manual. Lets go backwards in time.
@@KhoiBoa Adding a manual would be a great idea! Maybe a six speed with an overdrive.
I haven’t really driven any vehicle with electronic steering so I’m not sure how reliable they are compare to hydraulic system that’s been proven to be so reliable for many years. How are you going to control the vehicle if something goes wrong with any of the electronic devices that controls the steering system while you are driving?
EDIT: I'm really disappointed in the lack of pricing information and availability date - seems they could have figured that out by now. David - Good points on your disappointments. I'm looking forward to your review on the GMC and then getting a good comparison when you finally get to drive the 2022 Tundra. Do you the fuel economy on the new Tundra will be a little bit lower than the LC300 but not too far off? I'll be upgrading from a 2006 Tundra to the new Tundra as soon as I can and I'm looking to maximize towing and payload capacity. Seems to me, the base engine will do that as the hybrid will likely lose some payload.
Government is being hard on toyota for not updating their tundra.. so it'll take some time.
Availability should be in December except for the solar octane that will be in march check out the toyota website
Tundra is a nicer truck than that GMC.
Is a “pro power” type inverter offered on the new tundra? Camping would be so much easier with on board power. Cooking, boiling water, etc. No more hassle with propane.
you can just buy an inverter for a few hundred bucks and you can use ANY car as a generator.
@@gwot Yeah but the thing is, if you use the 12V system, the power output is usually limited by the alternator, to, say, 400W / 100W for most Toyota models, and if you go beyond that, you run the risk of draining the start-up battery even if the car is running. And if you tap into the high voltage hybrid system, then a proper inverter is hard to find and safety is an issue. The ideal situation would be that a proper high output inverter is offered from the factory, that uses the over 1kwh hybrid battery which is already there. When the battery drops to say 20%, the truck switches on its engine automatically and charges for a few minutes, just like other hybrid models from Toyota, then you can enjoy another kWh of electrical energy. As long as you have gas, you have limitless energy. Not to mention the ability to power your travel trailer, no more battery pack/charge controller/inverter/solar panels on your RV, no more portable generator/jerry cans/maintenance, no more propane tanks/refills/safety hazards, what a relief that would be. It would make the Tundra the perfect RV tow-er, since it should be more reliable and rust-free than the F150 hybrid. You unhook the trailer and instantly gain back all the offroad ability offered by a truck. An inverter Toyota! Just an inverter! It doesn't even have to be standard... offer it as an option... oh...
@@lgccyy I wonder if the hybrid Tundra even has an alternator. But I totally forget about the alternator output, was just thinking about running off the battery alone. Also referring back to what i said... TOYOTA, can just put in an inverter for a few hundred bucks instead! it does have a 120v 400w plug... so.. that's something? just limited to low powered things. The chief engineer did mention in another video that the increase cost of a built in generator would be more expensive than just buying a generator, so their excuse was from a pure cost point of view is that there's no value in it when you can buy one for cheaper. They don't care about the convenience that comes from it.
@@gwot Yeah, I guess that makes sense for most people. It is a very good daily driver.
Did they revert back to a regular spin-on oil filter or still the lousy cartridge method?