Zachmazer opens up on the COLLASPE of E8's Roster & what happened with Zap & TSM..
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- Zachmazer opens up on the COLLASPE of E8's Roster & Zap possibly joining TSM..
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Lmao Hal's just like, "Screw the roster drama, whats going on with that hairline my boy?"
The fact that knoqd getting constantly fcked like this is just insane. First OpTic pullout then this.
even before that zach dropped him and now zach has kinda fucked him over again.
@@jayxjayx8164 yeah, but this one isnt even zach's fault, this one is on zap for sure
@@n44ck Zach didnt make sure the coach was "all in" because he knew he wasn't.... He deliberately didn't ask him so Knoqd would feel comfortable and join. Very shitty move.
@@n44ck this is on the team as a whole. They didn't need to make a roster change.
Zach ‘End of Story’ Mazer
Zach 'ZachMazer' Mazer
Literally the longest story in apex history
Now I see why his hairline is receeding... way ta go Noc.. letting Zach hurt ur bank account the 2nd time was ur prob... Zach over here reiterating the reiteration...
@@TsDomain knoqd not Nocturnal
'sikez let me know he is committing in another direction' -- pretty sure sikez to lg confirmed.
Respect to zach for saying how much the orgs are offering per month.
Literally if anyone ever needs their fill of drama, come to the Apex Legends pro scene. I swear there's more drama here than in a Shakespeare play
Knoqd getting blindsided and screwed over, sounds familiar…
When did this happen before?
@@huhsaywhat c9 days. #justice4knoqd
@@huhsaywhatthey got rid of him after he got them second in a tournament and arguably carried them, was back when it was with naughty zach and knoqd. I think they picked up alb in lieu
“He’s a little bit older, like 25 or something” 😂
Bro looks likes he’s 35 how tf is 25 older?
@@strangecrimeworld9402 I thought he was legit closer to 40, holy.
I feel so bad for knoqd. I hope things work out for him and shooby.
Well, Hal leaving certainly shook up all the rosters 😂😂
Zach back with C9 drops knoqd for Mac because he thinks it’s an upgrade. Now he tried dropping shooby for sikez lmao. This guy doesn’t learn
Zap doesn’t trust Zach’s judgement anymore. The POI draft alleviates like 10% of that doubt.
Clara can not stop typing Jesus
Zach “I’m getting paid to lose” Mazer
This.
I wish he would just leave ALGS
you mean Zach "Im earning 9 grand so I will do aynthing I want" Mazer
Talmage thinks he's Raven on TSM. Even Raven didn't have that kind of pull on final call.
Yea, IGL should make the call then the coach goes from there
@@StevenJS89 The IGL only gets to make the call until it becomes delusional (which it did), a coach in that case should step in and try to change things.
@@190daes ya don’t say
It's about Zack being a tyrant and not even trying to listen to the coach, and even if it's not over a contest it'll be something else.
He even said here, " you can say what you want, I just dont give af"
Opening words was long story , short. *40 min video lmaooo
very long story
I mean they are mad about the con because it cost them a potential opportunity to win lol
Zach should never, and I mean never be allowed to make roster decisions ever again. Holy hell, I feel bad for him but also feel like E8 was a solid team and if they didn’t decide to Conn during finals they would’ve done so much better
Just seems like he’s lacking self awareness we understand ceto can’t happen again but maybe it’s how you acted in the process
he failed the con at finals 7 times and refused to listen to his team and coach just watch gnaskes pov on this seems less biased
I think Zach was pretty dumb for taking the contest that far, but to say gnaskes perspective is unbiased I think is not true.
gnaske is an idiot and then wonders why no org will sign his team, after winning the contest they just threw every game for "fun".
Gnaske always tells a good entertaining story. If you are a fan, you should know what that means.
I mean there r no cons no more🤷🏽♂️
So that is no problem for the future
@@49morrostill shows a potential lack of judgement/arrogance that bleeds into other factors of igl’ing etc..
Zach conveniently ignoring his major mess up at LAN. Going against what his coach and teammates wanted, letting his ego
takeover
He did own up to it but he's saying my fuck up isn't as bad as what the others did. Well no Zach, what you chose to do at LAN led to your teammates not wanting to trust you anymore.
So e8 disbanded because zac didnt want to go to a certain poi
yep, and zaptoh and tal made sure to stir things up before leaving so Zach couldnt qual to esports world cup
sounds like kids arguing on the playground
I’m just reading Zach’s chat and laughing. Clara with adlibs. Talmadge. Now Hal, who started this mess shows up 😂
i like how zach said that you should be happy about draft spots now since himself dont have a say in it anymore, thats probably why noone decent wanna fuck with zach it just show how good igl he is, he is in his little box of thought and doesnt want to grow.
Zap probably only saw failure with that team, hence why he wasn't locked in. He took the only logical choice which was trailing with the Tsm boys, where he could potentially get a sponsorship and play with world class comp winners.
I truly do believe that all of e8 left because of the way the contest was handled. Sure e8 scored a 1st place placement and top kills in 1 game.
But going 0-5 also has its mental battles to endure. The way Zack was behaving at LAN finals was probably embarrassing for the team. That’s probably one reason, Zack’s behavior turned off the team.
I don’t think shooby and zap could muster being a teammate to Zack after that fiasco.
tal real madge in chat cause he got called on his bullshit lmao
Big teams eating little teams. Zap, Verhulst looked good together though
Lmaooooo I’m so slow whole time I thought he was saying Noc from Xset not knoqd 💀
Think zap and Talmadge might have the mindset of trying something with higher risk but bigger reward. Reps and Verhulst have actually have winning experience. Yes, new IGL and pressures, but I think reps and Verhulst have a way higher ceiling than Zach and knoqd in tourneys.
where is the tldr version
i honestly like zap in tsm
They finally chose themselves and now he is upset because they did to him what he has been doing to people over the years
Let's not forget it's Zachs Birfffday Party that started this whole mess
Facts
It almost seems like in apex pro league, if you’re 25 and under you need your parents or guardian there to help you communicate, because people don’t know how to be adults. 😂😂😂
Talmadge getting clowned in the chat the whole time 🤣
so the tdlr is you dont have a team for ewc or split 2 atm and the original roster has broken into pieces.. after lots of broken promises
I definitely appreciate the timeline and breakdown from Zach, but for him to say that none of this is his fault is kind of brain dead imo. You can not make consecutive bad decisions/take risks and expect everything to just fall into line at the end of the day.
So he chose to play with Zap and Knoqd/Sikezz which led to Shooby looking for other opportunities, now that Zap wants to go all of a sudden it's "I want to play with shooby", oh so now you want to play with him. LMAO. Think about it for a second, why would Shooby want to come back to a guy who wanted to ditch him?
So basically we chalked any chance of winning to being stubborn. Youre telling me his chances were HIGHER, contesting a better 3v3 team than just flex dropping? Dz win 2 lans flexing dome and Bean lmfao
E8 was defintely a better 3v3 team than o7 in theory before lan
@@r4643 In theory? Gnaske is the better mnk fragger, And Amphy nagghz clear zap and shoob. Besides, after the first 3 contests, it's time to consider going elsewhere, not contesting 6 games for pride
@@DimeandKirkgnaske was one of the worst mechanical players up until this year of pro league, have you ever seen him 1v1 zero? And E8 absolutely rolled most teams at LAN once they actually had loot. Not defending the decision to stay tho
@@r4643 O7 was the far better team in the contest. That should have been obviously after being 3-0d. There was time going into game 4 to switch it up, but, AS ZACH SAID, he was letting ego get in the way.
@@r4643 I'm not entirely sure that accurate, and I'm being genuine. But, it should have been absolutely evident o7 was 5x more prepared for that contest after 3 games, and Zach, should have dropped the ego and not gatekeep his two young demons from having a legit chance at winning something. It became Zach vs Gnaske, and both teams players were not happy about it. That's obvious. Either way, absolutely atrocious ego chal on the boy
Yea I’m sorry but he is no where near as good as Verhulst
lol Him saying that he is anywhere better than a team thats won multiple championships is insane! Reps can IGL and has helped Hal with IGL for years. Bros forehead isnt even as big a his ego… imagine that! lol
He is delusional..
Also, this is what happens when you sign nobody controller children.
Get yourself a goated mnk ADULY.
“I asked my friends they all agreed”
LOL, did he tell his friends to never google Verhulst’s and Reps’ winnings?
I still dont know why they would go leave a good offer to join the worse version of tsm. I feel like its logical to stay with a really good roster and get a good amount of money then to join a team thats not even good on paper.
TSM providing him like 5x salary
Reps and Verhulst are multi champs. The only thing I don't agree with is saying that him and knoqd are better than Reps and Verhulst.
Because TSM w/o Hal is also a good offer.
According to Gnaske, when he confronted Zach in the LAN booth about E8 continuing to contest, Zach said he was making 7-9k to lose. If the coach is getting ignored and your IGL says that, why wouldn't both Talm and Zap switch to a team that want to win and get paid well?
@@jonathancarranza6046 I think he talked about their chemistry. Zap would be better with him and knoqd than Reps and Verhulst like Dezign is better with Timmy and Enemy than Reps and Verhulst.
@@bitter_piano Zach and Knoqd haven't played together in years, and Zap obviously wasn't happy with Zach if he decided to do what he did. Verhulst and Reps have been together for a long time and obviously work great together.
Zach, if you see this, i respect the honesty, but brother man. Youve got to Keep business, business.
TSM call, you pickup. Jordan and Evan are world champions... I don't blame Zap for leaving and Talmage just handled it poorly. Feeling sorry for Knoqd once again. Also Zach fkd over Shooby.
How zach drop shoob and then say he is his best chance to win? Shoob, dropped and snipe i hope pop off
Knoqd is playing with dropped and shooby for split 2 that what i here not esports world cup
bro is yapping
Zap should've just kept it real.
"Long story short" 40 min video
lft meaning?
looking for team
lets fk tonite
Stories like this just shows how dysfunctional off-seasons are with immature players and orgs.
Reps was IGL in 2 Lans and won lol
So childish man. Lol esports would thrive so much more if more of the players were more mature and not impulsive, reactionary and finicky.
Completely naive to feel so “betrayed” by Zap trialing with TSM. Lol
i guess verbal agreement that was unanimously agreed for, doesnt matter to u at all then......dont feel bad when ppl leave u suddenly for another place or another person lol
@@veqad2242Zach did that to knoqd. It's karma
@@veqad2242they all did it to shooby
Zach always rubbed me the wrong way even though I respect his work ethic
I don't believe a word this guy says, he's been snaking and switching teams for years in a desperate attempt to stay relevant.
He got complacent when getting org money and only started putting effort into the game again when his paychecks stopped coming (pre-E8).
Don't even get me started on the glazing of EA/respawn on twitter, like bro is so unlikeable anyway he may as well grow the balls to call out problems with the game.
Dropped is better IGL than Zach, Shooby got the better deal here... not sure if Snipedown still has it in him tho.
Yep. Better IGL and all around player. Zach is trash compared to Dropped.
@@LA_Vol He just needs for his team to stay alive and not solo rat. lol
sorry 41 minutes is absolutely brazy to hear the insane ramblings of a madman, its pretty easy to see what happened, zach just took stuff too far and had a mazar moment and his team wanted out to explore other options, there, end of story, np comments
Thanks man!!
Damnn hella drama
Can someone TLDR this for me lol
#justiceforknoqd
Zap & Talmadge some interesting personalities, Trust at your OWN Risk. WTF are these 2 even doing!
Some hella cringe comments in here. Zach is 100x the players you'll ever be. Sit back & keep your dumb opinions to yourselves.
Better player yes. Person. No
Sounds like they just don’t want to play with Zach but are just afraid to man up and say it. These dudes are a joke.
how are tier 2 pros getting offered 8k a month lol what
orgs got bread bro
Do you know what tier 2 is?????
How is a LAN finalist a tier 2 pro?
cause they arent t2?
@@BOO00R yes it is zach mazer. the amount of tier 1 squads in NA is like 5 tops. DZ SSG LG with sikez. TSM maybe now and id say moist
i literally can't stand him lmao
Can someone TLDR? My adhd is just yeah... Zap screwed over E8 or is there more to the story that im not paying attention to?
Mazer moment
n zap thinks he will win???????????????? hahaahahhaa
Let's talk about Hal bailing on his team and being a sell out!!!
haed drugs make you play better and you definetly were only on perks and me on perks is the best lol
Can someone gift me the battle pass
User:Reddypengu
grind 5 season battle pass and the battle pass premium is yours
@@thoriqikhsanabdillahsyarif7029 😭😭😭
@@thoriqikhsanabdillahsyarif7029 I did the same. Now I get BP every season for free.
Bro you don't have $10?
zach allowed to overstep the coach he got the coach to help him not to be the boss what a loser talmadge is
and if you read this talm discod me and tell me the behind the scenes to defend yourself BUMM
Business never base on gentleman agreement. It always base on contract. Esport player are so navie
Dropped - Knoqd - Shooby
You heard it here first
Lol 7.5k a month 😂😂😂😂😂 bums
Not even $300 a day get a skill and find a real career
25$ an hour lol self enployed is like 18$/hour + 30% of 22 twitch subs lol guy acts like he geting 15k viewers or some shlt
@@NotoriousJeffy thats really shit bait lmao
90k a year isn’t a bum? Lol what
@@GG-zn6tcits not bait lol your bricked this guy acts like he makes over 10k a month