Baldur's Gate 3 - Honour Mode Glitchless in
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- Опубліковано 23 бер 2024
- Speedrun submission for SGDQ 2024.
Run on Patch 6, Hotfix 22, which is a bit slower than previous patches (around 3 minutes), but is the current patch of the game.
Commentary is a bit scuffed, was doing a lot of stuff but hopefully this is good enough!
Broadcasted live on Twitch -- Watch live at / chronos - Ігри
Heyo everyone!
Sorry for the delay in the tutorials, was busy working on this for SGDQ 2024 submissions, but this should be a good enough explanation for the new glitchless route on Patch 6 for a bit.
Will finish the other tutorials and stuff this upcoming week now that my workload has lightened a bit, so expect them to come this next week.
If anyone has any questions feel free to comment down below to ask!
No questions, just commenting to say it's fun watching your runs, and that I'm looking forward to the future tutorials! It's totally possible to follow your gameplay in these runs, but I really appreciate the more long form tutorial that explains not only the "what" and "when" but also the "how" and "why". Great work bud!
Will you make an update once you get an answer for SGDQ to keep us in the loop? also love your runs :)
@@chrisbigglock1529 For sure, I'll make an announcement if I do!
Is the second potion of speed required? Because I did not get lucky with the mindflayers
@@dungeonboss8356 It's not required, but it is very useful, you do need at least 1 though.
Just casually finished the game faster than I left the nautiloid
Hell, I usually take longer than this just to create my character.
edit toon and make up etc. start ticking the clock :)
@@theviniso
Your game loads in less than an hour???
1 hours to leave the naughtyloid bro???
see you in 1000 hours when you have completed the game lol
If you are alright by jahera, then you're alright by me
They really need to patch these quips for the vendors. This one or Auntie Ethel's "Want me to take a look at the bugger?". Annoys me when I have to repeat dealing with them over & over.
@@mehashonhold Hello petal
right when she said it i read this comment
the key to the speedrun: Being alright by Jaheira
@@mehashonhold Patching things like that and other glitches which have been present for months are low priority - there's kissing scenes to add, after all.
Giant Jaheira jumps into the temple of Bhaal.
Throws Orin into the abyss.
Refuses to elaborate.
Leaves (this world).
I freaking laughed my ass off when I watched that part even though I read this comment beforehand agshahahahshahag
I got a ridiculous init roll where one of the servants actually walked over and picked up the netherstone before I could, very silly stuff lol
This is canon as far as I am concerned 😄
It felt very on-brand for Bhaal. I'm sure he approved.
I love the fact you explained every moves you did and why, it's very important imo to understand some game mechanics
and yet I don't have my golden dice because I need one more battle for one more loot
Amazing. What I love about your glitchless runs is that it's obvious how much work goes in to them. You use item locations, environmental tech, and spells that are so unique and need both practice and deep game knowledge to work in the right ways. Keep up the good work.
I followed as closely as i could to do almost exactly what you did. somehow by the end of the run jaheira was seen by someone as i was trying to jump my way across to the brain stem. she died and i had already killed la'zeal so i attempted to spawn in a hierling from withers to be my sudo jaheira. they also died. so i snuck my mindflayered ass up to the stem my own way. scared to death i still used the mage hand/ invis trick as i climbed the brain. invis still worked. made my way to the portal. used levitate to go down to the brain. placed all my bombs/fireworks/a nautiloid barrel and an oil barrel. levitated back up. used fierce perilous stakes on myself. ended my turn and prayed. the brain dropped those orb things put up a shield and back to me. throw the firebomb at the rest of the bombs and Fkn KILLED EM!!!! Thank you for this video. was a lil tricky to follow. a slowed down version would be nice i bet for other people. other wise it all ended up working out, so thank you again Chronos! (i finished in about 3 and a half hours, playing and stopping to watch and rewatch certain moments of the run, like dialog options, level ups, or jump pathing)
The good thing is that, if everything goes wrong, you only lost about 2 to 10 hours, not fucking 60 like I lost
Actually same for me when I was doing a more full playthrough of it. Made it to ketheric after 60 ish hours and died on his second phase lol
@@doctertroncat3147 i died in the beggining of act 3 in the bombs under arfurs "mansion". Stupid traps.
I love speedruns for the fact that my honor mode run took 50 hours and heres you beating it in 50 minutes. Even after years of watching speedruns im always in awe and they never fail to amaze me. Congrats on the run i hope you can get into SGDQ with it and thanks for bringing it to us.
damn 50 hours is pretty good too, I took 90 hours for my honor mode run...spent like 20 minutes before each big fight planning lol
@@suleyman2768hey if it works that's all that matters lol
50? like you skip content or what?
@@oppai9611 i did indeed skip alot of the creche (didnt wanna deal with gith ambushes) aswell as the raphael fight. I did everything else.
Random tip most people don’t know but if you look under the cliff where Astarion is - there is a chest that can be search under a rock with 2 speed potions for free
Feel like this may be faster but I’m no speed runner
This is the safety strat that I'll use at GDQ if it gets in!
Awesome run! Hopefully the bad luck shows the judges you can recover from even the biggest “that never happened” moments. Personal highlight is the strategist inspiration appearing as Jaheira jumps off the cliff 44:10.
Thank you for doing this video on patch 6. It's honestly super inspiring, this was the video that got me off my ass to finally try some speedruns of the game. I doubt it would have had the same effect if I had needed to downpatch.
Glad youtube recommendations finally recommended something good I really enjoy your commentary and I hope to see you at SGDQ
Subscribed & Twitch followed in the first minute. There's good gameplay, and then there's good people. I could tell early on you bring both to the table, and I think that's neat. Love your abundantly clear passion and, as others have noted, your very relaxing and coherent explanations throughout.
Thanks so much for the commentary! Everything was super easy to follow. I beat it second try 1h 31m in-game time, although I did do some glitches in the final act (kidnapping gortash + orin dev room) playing as gale origin since I did NOT want to mess up the final fight lol. I needed a doable guide for the achievement and you perfectly delivered :D
Thank you Chronos so much, for using actual version and sharing your knowledge
Thanks for bringing this run updated.
I like training these run to get to know the game better. I have no intention of competing, but rather learning the techniques.
Tks!
That’s how I learned to play the RE games as RE2 was my first game but had speed running potential and it’s fun. I’m trying to do the same with BG3 cause I suck at lot
Good luck with your submission! This run is impressive as always.
congrats on the run!! also thank you for the explanation on the invis last encounter, i never got why my invisibility kept breaking hahaha
Great Speedrun, will be amazing to see you on sgdq this year
Nice. Learned the old route through your vid’s and was wondering how a route on current patch would go. Good stuff!
Bro, this is awesome.
I have loved this game. I beat it a couple times then told my wife I wanted to get the platinum trophy on PS5 (which included beating it on tactician). So I did it.
Then I wanted to beat it on Honour mode. And I did it.
…. And now I’m wanting to speed run and solo play it, and I’m learning a lot from what you did here. ….you skipped so much, and you were very meticulous on locations of jumps. Wow.
When I died at Mykrul my first HM playthrough at 28 hours, I almost gave up.
I can’t believe how easy you made that fight.
Thanks for the awesome video!
Thank you for the guide. I was able to complete a run after about 30 attempts by following your steps. Aside from making silly mistakes, the major challenges were the githyanki versus emperor fight and the use of invisibility potions towards the end.
If the githyanki fight extends beyond one turn and they cast hold on Jaheira, it usually ends badly. And at the end for some reason, throwing the potion doesn't always render the target invisible. It seems more reliable to break the potion with the arm next to the character instead of throwing it, although it could just be my luck.
For this reason, I opted to stock up on two additional invisibility potions while purchasing bombs, allowing for two attempts with each character at the end. However, this lengthens the run as it requires accumulating more gold prior to the bomb shopping segment.
found this video utterly fascinating and appreciated the way you narrated what was happening
Very nice Speedrun, thx for the explanations!
Great explanations and tech used, thanks for posting this!
You absolutely safed me on my plat run. I had no idea how to the netherbrain part after invis got patched. Thabk you so much for a quick nice guide. Everything worked on console for me
After 4 or 5 tries I was able to complete Honour Mode thanks to this video. Appreciate your work on it!
How did you do the moonlantern bit?
Awesome! Now I’ll want to sidecar this run. Thanks for sharing and elaborating!
Impressive run, great job!!!
This is so funny to watch as a regular player lol. Also you have strong "cool university professor" vibes. Subbed
I would love to see this at GDQ. You go man!
Oh good, I got stuck in the glitch run though shar door, this is great, thank you !
I love the oversight of allowing people to drop stacks of bombs and throw them. Thats a true “not intended by the dev problem.
Can't imagine anything that matters less than what some devs intend. The game is the game, devs did their job and should leave it alone or become the enemy
Insane run. Thanks for explaining everything you are doing. Other videos running Honor Mode don't explain anything
Thank you, was able to follow this with controller on my PS5 almost completely except for 3 parts: The jump down in the gauntlet of shar, throwing orin off the platform, and the jump you did with jaheira after getting onto the boat in the brainpool. Easily circumvented with; a quick leap of faith trial, an elixer of cloud giant strength, and a bit of jumping around with invisiblity.
Yo, I'm totally stuck on my PS5 on the gauntlet of shar, tried to jump down for an hour but the camera kept going crazy. Can you please post some more tips for how you did the steps you've explained above?
@@UnearnEverythingyou can jump down on console too but instead of using jump I would cast a spell then go into turn based, turn the camera all the way around to the right so you’re looking head on towards the lower level, then use the free storm-sorcerer fly on the left hand side. Jump is technically possible but way harder with the camera imo
@@UnearnEverythingI jumped down to the trial of faith where you can just auto-path walk to the corner of the end platform and boom, got one orb for the elevator.
What a perfect setup. My goal is to do a single playthrough that gets all trophies except dark urge, tactician and honour mode, and following this speed run with your tutorial, it'll clean up the list nicely! Now to find out what version comes on the disc versions. Could always resort to the default patch.
This run uses the most current patch of the game, which should be the same version that's used on the console versions, if not, I believe everything should work pretty much the same!
@ChronosReturns apologies as it appears I rambled, lol. Understood it is current patch. I might not get to BG3 until June or July depending on their physical versions starting to be shipped. I think they are putting patch 5 or 6 on disc so this will work if they patch something out before I get to it.
@damcrac I just finished it and didn't get sins of the father or embrace your urge trophy btw. You'll likely have to do anither durge run
@blainelacey8953 thank you for letting me know. I think I like this alternative to the custom mode work around/exploit. That'll allow me to use the golden dice.
Thank you! I've tried (and failed!) honour mode multiple times, but thanks to this guide I now have a shiny gold dice 😁.
I had to do the Gauntlet of Shar the long way (with lots of cheese) since I couldn't get my Tav to jump through the small gap in the broken stairs but everything else worked on my PS5. Thanks again, these videos are great.
How did you throw Orin off the cliff on ps5? No matter where I target at that edge of the platform as he shows, on ps5 it says “target too far” or “path interrupted”, it won’t let me find a spot that says “death” where I can actually toss oron off.
Also on ps5 for shars temple, I couldnt do the gap either BUT you only need 1 umbrel gem to use the lift to get down there, and you’re perfectly set up for the jumping trial. So I grabbed just one gem, took the lift down, then used “knock” to open the door (only a bit slower than jumping down the gap but faster than getting all the umbrel gems and safer)
I was about to give up on this myself but it is possible. You just have to swing the camera out over the chasm until the 'too far' message changes to a 'death skull' icon. The throw happens off screen thank to the awful camera angles on the ps5.
How did you do the moon lantern bit at start of act 2?
@@JTMynhardt the easiest way is to follow the guide and have shadowheart use command drop to make him drop the moon lantern, but for console just go ahead and have shadowheart pick up the lantern (this will cause a fight) and then open her inventory and send the moon lantern to your tav. The scene will start for the lantern with your tav and you can just let shadowheart die. After she dies, they will all leave and you can go rez her.
It’s possible to also “throw” the moonlantern, which since you aren’t picking it up doesn’t aggro them, and throw it far away so they leave without it. I found that trickier to pull off before he picks it back up off the ground though, so honestly just let shadowheart take the fall.
Thanks so much for this video man. Used this to get my last achievement I needed on Xbox for Honour Mode 😁😁👍👍
How did you do the moonlantern bit?
Thank you very much for this guide!
really cool stuff man, good work
Great run, keep it up man! ^^
Great content and great explanations :)
You ran this faster than I've done some fights. Wild.
Ayy! This guide is awesome. I had some mishaps but I managed to get by and get the achievement.
I must have selected the wrong dialogue with Gortash so I had to blow him up using Jahera. I had to steal more fireworks for the final boss.
Jahera got spotted by an imp and taken out immediately, so I had to solo the Brain. It worked out in the end!
Thanks! Helped me a lot
Thank you for this amazing guide
Greetings from Poland😉
very cool! going to try it myself!
A big thank you chronos, yet another person who would never have obtained their golden dice without you. I improvised the ending thanks to this video
Great content!
Hey, thanks for the guide! Fairly easy to follow along even with console controls.
If you're like me and wanted to save durge for a legit playthrough, you can't waltz into bhaal temple via birthright. Adds a couple steps but it's still very easy all things considered:
Optional tip 1) recruit Gale, makes life easier later on. Just take small detours for 3 magic items or buy them later.
Optional tip 2) rescue volo for pickpocket profit as necessary, takes two conversations and one illithid check if you need it
3) head to shadow lands as normal, if you're on console command-drop the moon lantern with shadowheart, let her die in combat, resurrect her at camp
4) head to waypoints and shar temple as normal
5) buy bombs and be sure to get stacks right so they don't blow up in your hand, i had to figure out a way to blow them up in a backpack because i didn't do it right
6) release nightsong to zombie man as normal, say bye to shart
7) scale Moonrise to rooftop as this video demonstrates; subtle spell misty step out of trouble; defeat ketheric v1 and v2
(This is where my run got a bit more complicated but with some wiki study i figured out a route to coincide back with this video's upon entering bhaal temple)
8) follow the prism intermission setup i.e. Eldritch knight Jaheira empowered by enlarge, throw monks into the astral plane
9) [im a bit hazy on order here but hopefully it doesn't matter] arrive in rivington, leap to 2nd floor of the bunkhouse across from wyrms crossing waypoint, find murder list, interrogate the mum's body to figure out Dolor is the killer.
Optional 9a) id talk to gortash to make sure he is an ally prior to dealing with Orin. Honor is for slowpoke heroes, and my halfling Tav wants to go home
10) head to lower city, leap to roof of elfsong tavern, go down the hatch to second floor, chat with investigator to trigger murder quest. {I did this before finding Dolor's secret room behind the wardrobe, but maybe it doesnt matter, the order}
11) invisibly pickpocket the poem and the bag o' hands from Dolor as he plans his wine poison; escape detection and head back to basilisk gate
12) break into tombstone shop, infiltrate murder tribunal, lie about being an edgelord, kill an innocent Hollyphant for the greater good and to maintain your double agency. Severok bequethes you the amulet of bhaal.
13) head to sewers via manhole by Baldur's gate waypoint; open first door after orin reveals herself, sneak past ambush, leap to bhaal temple door and open it.
14) enlarge 20 strength jaheira, turn invisible, throw orin to her doom, follow her temporarily until Withers can ctrl+z
15) seal deal with pretty boy
16) head to nether brain, try and fail to save Orpheus from illithidhood (i tried to tell them i had a wizard bomb, i tried to convince laezel vlaakkith wanted her bones, to no avail. If no emperor, someone becomes a squid i guess)
15) leap invisibly to brainstem, and have gale take one for the team
GG! I play quite slow so this took me two nights and 12ish hours of game time, more with my planning. But definitely a nice quick way to achievement compared to a legit painstaking honor run.
Bro, I lost my honor run on arfurs mansion by traps. Got so pissed of that to compensate, gonna waste a couple of hours (not as much as fucking 60) to do copy this speedrun. Thanks for the tips and ideas!
Thanks for this bro
Thanks you for your guide Chronos... Now i will have to redo my RUn to be under 2h ^^
Stock up while you can. I only hope I've brought enough to see us through.
Hi all, I manage to do it thanks to this tuto,
Small tips if you want to try it,
IF mind flayer doesn’t drop you the speed potion (it’s random) you can go to the small cave (below the place where you meet astarion) move a rock and you will find garantied 2 speed potions
Hope it helps thank you
Great video very helpful the only part im having trouble with is the jump to the final platform in shars temple, could be cause I’m on console but I’ve tried for awhile now
Holy moly did that myrkul fight make me realize that my run for honour mode was done waaaaaaay wrong... lol
It's like seeing my life flash before my eyes 😂😂
This is an impressive Jump game !
Everyone has left the party.
Sacrifices were made.
amazing run and love the commentary too!! just quick question, would doing the thing with karniss (putting moonlantern in the bag and the people around just go away) not be considered a glitch/bug? just curious
For now, I believe that it's fine. Basically when the Moonlantern is taken away, the NPCs will leave no matter what after a certain amount of time. If we really want to count that as a glitch, there's a lot of alternatives that you can do that take longer but are effectively the same thing:
- You can keep dragging the Moonlantern around so Karniss keeps failing to pick it up, and eventually he'll give up and leave.
- You can pick it up, start combat and die with Shadowheart while everyone else stays back, then once the fight is over, revive Shadowheart and continue on like normal.
The line between glitch and acceptable cheese is quite thin, it seems!
Jump? Clever!
Casting mage hand then entering a cut-scene then switching to a dead companion to "unlock" the characters so you can then use the mage hands to throw potions to make them invisible mid-cut-scene? Also working as intended 😀
That explosives bundle that blows up a god... yeah, that puts a smile on my face. And if you think about it, its kinda realistic. No one said its impossible to gather a bunch of high yield explosives in a bag and then lunch that package into someones face.
"that time I destroyed the elder brain using some fireworks bought by selling ketheric's armor"
@chronos if you accidentally get into the dialogue with Raph in front of the gauntlet of shar entrance you can attack him to immediately end the dialogue and he'll just disappears. No ramifications for it. It'll save maybe half a second if you accidentally get into the dialogue.
That's pretty neat and good to know! Definitely will keep this in mind in the future if I ever fail sneaking past by accident.
I completed my no boss/content skips honor mode run in 43h 37m, and that was pretty quick for no skips. Then along come the speedrunners finishing in less than an hour lol
that orin fight :o
a true barrelmancer
wp amazing run
GG dude
Hilarious how infinite smoke bomb supply is not considered a glitch... I guess everyone just agrees with that?
vendor inventory resetting on level up isn't a glitch, it's intentional
This was fun to watch. Big props for all the time and thought you put into the strategy involved in this.
Having said that, I'm with others who think the bomb stacking feels like too much cheese for glitchless.
How is it a glitch ? It’s an intended game mechanic.
It’s cheese for sure tho.
They intend for you to be able to throw 10 bombs (that you can buy for cheap) at once and one shot bosses? I find that hard to believe...@@beaudereck3122
I wouldn't call it exactly glitchless but good run. you put a lot of effort into it and it's a good video!
this made me graduate from tactician
Chronos: Casually playing threw one of the best videogames of all time on the hardest difficulty while explaining all the little secrets, faster than I left the tutorial.
Me:
Wish I could make that jump to skip the Gauntlet of Shar, but without a cursor on the XBox, just can't get the camera angle to allow the jump. Sad times.
What you can do instead, is complete just 1 of the trials (soft step is safest or you’re set up well for jump trial) because the platform that takes you down to that same area only needs 1 umbrel gem. So grab just 1, jump to that platform, take it down then use “knock” to open the door. A bit slower but not too bad since that Jump is almost impossible on console
"If you're allright by Jahe... take ca..."
@ChronosReturns Thanks for posting this, super interesting stuff!
Quick question: have you tried doing the jump in the gauntlet of Shar using a controller? I've tried it on Xbox and it doesn't seem to work, my character just won't jump there and the camera goes all funky.
same, I'm on ps5 and this is a hard wall for me.
Same
Yeah not possible on console. Do the Leap of Faith trial, get the orb to lower the platform, continue speedrun.
Get this man in SGDQ
I found a major skip in the area you can enter from the jail in act 2. But I have not updated to the latest so I dont know if its usefull, had to restart my game a few times due to me forgetting stuff. So I have not yet unlocked act 2. But I will use some of the things you showed in this to get there faster.
IT WORKS! I DID IT TODAY. But i changed some things. I took more invisibility potions, some more bombs... etc. I did it in 5´40 h, chilling. I think that the worst part is Katheric fight, bcs if you dont have the ring equipped, you will fail. I speak spanish and my english is regular but if you have some specific question i can answer... More or less :P
AND CHRONOS YOURE THE BEST I learned a lot!!!! Thanks for your work and the amazing video
you can finish bg3 on honor mode and ask steam a refund, you are a legend man!
That skip for the elevator in the Temple of Shar to the Shadowfel avoided the glitch I ran into. Going down the elevator Karlach and Gale stayed on the elevator, while my main character and Shadowheart stayed in place and fell down the chasm when the elevator moved out from under neath them. Honour run lost.
I've learned if a character ever gets stuck anywhere to try and fast travel with that character to any of your waypoints u unlocked
@@doctertroncat3147 I tried. Since the character were just downed and wouldn't fully die, the only thing I could try was a short rest, revived them only to instantly take damage again to down them.
Amazing video and details. Tried myself and got stuck at Ketheric boss fight. 1st was realising what you meant by the first set of bombs will explode in your hand, for those who don’t know, it will legit just explode in your face when you try to throw. 2nd attempt same place, but the bombs did very little damage, like around 1/3 of Ketheric’s health, any tips on this? Was my throwing position wrong?
Be sure to have the Callous Glow ring equipped on your thrower, and to throw the bombs at the ground near your target and not _at_ your target.
@@caseycarter7736Thanks a lot, man. I also stuck on Ketheric fight and tried to understand what went wrong. I accidentally sold the ring, it seems, while was doing all this bomb buying shenanigans
hope you get into SDGQ =)
YIPPEEEEEEEEE NEW CHRONOS VIDEO
Tysm for all the effort that goes into this. I respect it fr
youre a beast
Maybe I'm missing a hidden mechanic, but how do ten 3d4+9 bombs do 400 damage? I've barrelmancer'd Myrky before, but I dropped something like 30 bombs, 8 barrels, and a dozen holy waters dropped by an invisible Astarion, who then set the entire mess off with a point blank fire bolt - and wasn't sure it would cut it.
if anyone try to stack 10 smokepowder bomb to kill myrkul beware, some smokepowder bomb have bug that will instantly explode when throw, so better kept them seperate stack, so you will know some stack have bug smokepowder bomb
Man finishes the game in less time than most people spend in the character creator
Epic!
why move the spell icons on the ui each time after casting?
It's a small glitch that is allowed since it's a quality of life thing for speedrunners by animation canceling spell casts. When you start speedrunning it's pretty instinctive to do every time to save around half a second per spell cast, but apart from that it's very small. I could just not use it at all in the run as well if people want that, but per category rules it's allowed in no major glitches, which is a more accurate name I guess. My previous glitchless runs did not use it since I personally didn't want to use any glitches at all, but this is what the community decided upon.
@@ChronosReturns thanks for the answer, i always see it in speedruns but never knew what it did
There isn’t a second invisibility potion in sorceress sundaries in my playthrough during patch 23. (March 27 update). Where’s the next closest invisibility potion?
48 minutes? how lol? crazy dude
I’m just going to copy your build so I can get the achievement as fast as possible
Many hours played and somehow missed that you can throw a whole stack of bombs.
16:29 I got to this point on the PS5 but couldn‘t make the jump due to extremely restricted camera angles and I couldn‘t point anywhere that didn‘t say „invalid target“ etc. Is there another spot to jump from? 😢
After 57mins I finished creating my character
Great guide! I just have a problem with the Myrkul fight. I throw the bombs on Kethric just fine. But when I threw them on Myrkul the exploded right after they left my hand and killed me. Does it have something to do with the fact that I used 14 bombs instead of 10 you used?
just finished honor mode on around 10 attempts totally only 1 achiv left where u must save golbin but gonna do next year XD