It has been a long time since my dad talked about his days in the B-17 but if my memory serves me, the ball turret was retracted during takeoff and landing, and then extended during the flight. What brought it too mind is that I noticed that in the grass, it is dragging the ground with makes takeoffs and landings more difficult.
As a commercial airline passenger, I am really glad to know that professionals in the airline industry take crashes as seriously as you and jeffquesenberry do.
I was hoping to see little RC scale ambulances and fire trucks go racing into the picture moments after the crash. For lack of comprehensive safety systems, I deducted one star.
Having flown my own 10ft span B-17 and then a 17 feet span version, I feel I can speak with some authority on the subject. Regardless of what was mixed with what, both B-17's flying here are tail heavy. You can tell by the way they both leap into the air and that they are pitch unstable in flight and final approach. 5 to 10 pounds of lead in the nose would transform them both, speaking from experience. I had around 15 pounds in my 1/6 scale version and it was rock solid. Steve
Just out of curiosity.....What are the range with these planes? About how fast can they fly? And how much do they cost? I certainly hope they were insured.
Thanks for the positive comments. I was not the pilot, I shot the video. I know the pilot and he is excellent. The crash was due to a wrong setting on his transmitter.
In the mid-1970s a group of RC guys built and flew a B-17 about the size of the ones in this video. The RC field was about a half mile from a small airfield used by private planes in Southern Cal. A couple of private pilots were landing and saw the B-17 and freaked out, thinking it was the real thing. A complaint was filed with the FAA, and RC planes of that size were banned from the area. True story.
why don't they put something in the planes that will ignite on impact. crashes don't look very real with on fire or thick black smoke. i'd give this crash a 2 and thumbs down
I have scratchbuilt many twins and a tri and one B-17, and all of them especially the warbirds come in heavy and hot or they don't make it. When I scaled down the B-17 it came in just like yours did, Nose heavy and a litlle wobbley. Excellent job of flying and building it. Landing warbirds is a always a learning process. Nobody understands how heavy and difficult these are to fly let alone land. Keep up the good work.
Which model have you used for the pilot? There is a fantastic range of articulated 1/6th bomber pilots and gunners available, they would look fantastic along with this gorgeous machine! Glad to see her back "up and at'em again".
u put the same comment on anther video...that you're bro died the same way......1st you said that he died from a A-10 Warthog burning when taking off.....now you're saying that he died from a B-17 crash.....you just want respect
Why did it crash ? Was it a flame-out or just bad piloting ? It seems that the pilot wants to lose altitude much too quickly. He did it also on the last landing but he managed to level the plane just above the ground.
First attempt looked like he came in way too hot, and caught a really bad down draft. Second looked a lot better, but still pretty fast landing speed... Glad to see the big girl was able to get fixed back up and fly again.
This was obviously Enemy Sabotage. Security needs to be super tight at these launching and all attendees MUST Recite ALL the NFL and AFL football teams to be let in. An enemy German agent would only know the European soccer teams , which aint real sport any way....Congress needs to investigate and subpoena every 60 foot tall, pilot, mechanics, ground crew, hot dog vendors, t-shirts sales associates, and ANY one dressed European. THis is War and this is SERIOUS folks..."Lose Lips; Sink Ships"...
Looks great ! Excellent !! Wing loading and the approach speed looks just right for this plane. The only problem is the absence of flaps, which are essential for this kind of & scale of planes.
I'm not a flyer or a RC flyer for that matter, however I do love planes. During the crash is that what a stall looks like? He seemed like he backed off the power quite a bit coming in. B-17's have always been my favorite plane since I was a kid.. these really are nice.
...I didn't want to rub salt in the wounds, but yes, many of the most meticulous builders I've known were crazy talented, at BUILDING. But often, they're just not very good at flying. I've been asked to set up, maiden and properly trim many amazing models for people just like that. I feel lucky and honored they trust me. They're often "old school" guys and are barely comfortable setting up their radios with anything beyond dual rates. You can't imagine how many weren't knowledgeable or were straight up afraid about programming in a bit of "Expo" to help tame their models.
It's important to get the tail up and fuse. level during a takeoff run. Seen so many try and take off full throttle with the tail planted / stick pulled back.
easier to take of and land... even on full sized airplanes it is the case the wheels slid a little bit on the grass ... that makes it easier to handle the plane on the ground... I remember well when i flew full size
DIOSpeedDemon what the hell does that have to do with this model and the runway afforded to it ten feet away? Back in WW2 they didn't have PCs and mobile phones either, what's your freaking point?
@railnwings So, basically.. he set off the airplane with the wrong control settings on the one transmitter, and when he was trying to turn but it never turned.. and resulted the crash?
Brian E. Scott you can see slightly windy conditions, but possibly this was a 1st flight. slight dip in power and descend to fast angle. why are you bashing?
How did you manage to land the plane like that? Engine trouble? I felt sad when it happend, but glad when I did see the plane back in good shape. The second landing was much better :-))
Two scary approaches only difference is the plane was in 1 piece after the second one. Is he a crap pilot or is the plane a lot heavier and balanced differently to the silver one??
it looks to have a much higher landing speed than the 1st b-17. Heavier build? Whatever the case great model i want it lol. well done on the rebuild and great flying
It doesnt look like a incorrect trans set up to me. Looked like plan old pilot error, the plane flew just fine for several min before the bad landing. What was wrong with the trans?
It seemed the crashed plane did not have flaps. Could flaps be installed on the plane to make landing a bit easier? Perhaps I am wrong and it did have flaps. I just did not notice them.
Indrid Cold Possibly. But the other plane didn't appear to have flaps. I think the main problem was the pilot didn't pull back enough, but he probably thought was pulled back enough
@railnwings The rebuilt flight looks like the pilot splashed it into the tarmac (just like previous) except the fuse didn't rip apart when he bounced it on the landing.. Could not see for sure, but it sure appeared like it was landed quite heavily...
With the way that the plane was tilting left and right on the way down, it makes me wonder if the pilot was fighting winds and just simply never noticed that the plane was at that angle
It is hard to believe that the US won the war with such small planes.
literal lol
jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzz
It is hard to believe that we had such Small Pilots back then ....
They say the world has gotten smaller :).
+Steve smith Their size may have been small, but their numbers were not.
not a single member of the 10 man lego crew lived.... a sad day..
They were hamsters
And they washed the ball turret gunner out with a hose.
Shut up minecraft lover
You shut up
That’s a lie. Ever step on a lego? Those little dudes are made from diamonds
It has been a long time since my dad talked about his days in the B-17 but if my memory serves me, the ball turret was retracted during takeoff and landing, and then extended during the flight. What brought it too mind is that I noticed that in the grass, it is dragging the ground with makes takeoffs and landings more difficult.
As a commercial airline passenger, I am really glad to know that professionals in the airline industry take crashes as seriously as you and jeffquesenberry do.
The sound at 2:57 wasn't the sound of impact, but the sound of the man flying it heart break.
It broke my heart too
ben Rudnick Who got to write all those letters home, the chaplain? Oh the humanity!
+ben Rudnick. ;-;
Admittedly it kind of hurt you can tell someone put a lot of time in that
Salute for making a comeback. Crew of the Memphis Bell would be proud.
It looks like 26 missions was too many for the Memphis Belle...
I was hoping to see little RC scale ambulances and fire trucks go racing into the picture moments after the crash. For lack of comprehensive safety systems, I deducted one star.
Doug MacRay
That would of been super cool !!!
XD
I’m converting my lawn mower into a foam truck as we speak
Having flown my own 10ft span B-17 and then a 17 feet span version, I feel I can speak with some authority on the subject. Regardless of what was mixed with what, both B-17's flying here are tail heavy. You can tell by the way they both leap into the air and that they are pitch unstable in flight and final approach. 5 to 10 pounds of lead in the nose would transform them both, speaking from experience. I had around 15 pounds in my 1/6 scale version and it was rock solid. Steve
They looked very unrealistic zooming skyward as they did.
Just out of curiosity.....What are the range with these planes? About how fast can they fly? And how much do they cost? I certainly hope they were insured.
Thanks for the positive comments. I was not the pilot, I shot the video. I know the pilot and he is excellent.
The crash was due to a wrong setting on his transmitter.
What was the wrong setting ?
In the mid-1970s a group of RC guys built and flew a B-17 about the size of the ones in this video. The RC field was about a half mile from a small airfield used by private planes in Southern Cal. A couple of private pilots were landing and saw the B-17 and freaked out, thinking it was the real thing. A complaint was filed with the FAA, and RC planes of that size were banned from the area. True story.
What is the current status of these planes, please? I hope that they are still flying.
They are still flying.
railnwings
Fantastic... a buddy and I are looking at building the 1/6 scale version...nice job on the rebuild.
CURRENT STATUS: One plane made it safely thru the German Flac. The other suffered an extreme case of GROUND POISONING...
Dat Guy Does Stuff he means ww||
That's the hobby, you build 'em, fly 'em, fix 'em! Nice job on the modeling.
Welp, their building skills definitely trump their flying skills.
can only imagine the work and attention that goes into a plane like that. I was rooting for you on the second landing attempt!! Good job man =D
Crash is at 2:50
thanks tony saved me some time.
why don't they put something in the planes that will ignite on impact. crashes don't look very real with on fire or thick black smoke. i'd give this crash a 2 and thumbs down
I have scratchbuilt many twins and a tri and one B-17, and all of them especially the warbirds come in heavy and hot or they don't make it. When I scaled down the B-17 it came in just like yours did, Nose heavy and a litlle wobbley. Excellent job of flying and building it. Landing warbirds is a always a learning process. Nobody understands how heavy and difficult these are to fly let alone land. Keep up the good work.
Probably too much flak damage.
Which model have you used for the pilot?
There is a fantastic range of articulated 1/6th bomber pilots and gunners available, they would look fantastic along with this gorgeous machine!
Glad to see her back "up and at'em again".
Knowing the B-17, it probably could still fly. I hope the pilots survived. My brother died the exact same way. Scary.
***** I guess you don't get it. I have to say this, my other brother died after replying to someone who also said he did not make sense. Scary.
trololol
How old was your brother wen he died
u put the same comment on anther video...that you're bro died the same way......1st you said that he died from a A-10 Warthog burning when taking off.....now you're saying that he died from a B-17 crash.....you just want respect
hampe947
or maybe he just have... sorry, had a shitload of brothers
Why did it crash ? Was it a flame-out or just bad piloting ?
It seems that the pilot wants to lose altitude much too quickly. He did it also on the last landing but he managed to level the plane just above the ground.
First attempt looked like he came in way too hot, and caught a really bad down draft.
Second looked a lot better, but still pretty fast landing speed...
Glad to see the big girl was able to get fixed back up and fly again.
Hello and just a quick one, is there any news on the crash and what caused it please?
Thanks for the upload.
Take care.
mrbluenun
This was obviously Enemy Sabotage. Security needs to be super tight at these launching and all attendees MUST Recite ALL the NFL and AFL football teams to be let in. An enemy German agent would only know the European soccer teams , which aint real sport any way....Congress needs to investigate and subpoena every 60 foot tall, pilot, mechanics, ground crew, hot dog vendors, t-shirts sales associates, and ANY one dressed European. THis is War and this is SERIOUS folks..."Lose Lips; Sink Ships"...
DIOSpeedDemon A B-17 would be just as useful destroyed on the ground than in the air. Shit American engineering as usual, like the M4 Sherman
DIOSpeedDemon love it ...bwhahahahahah
Looks great ! Excellent !!
Wing loading and the approach speed looks just right for this plane.
The only problem is the absence of flaps, which are essential for this kind of & scale of planes.
too bad ... such a nice bird
☆ ★ ☆ R . I . P . ☆ ★ ☆
It repaired tho
I'm not a flyer or a RC flyer for that matter, however I do love planes. During the crash is that what a stall looks like? He seemed like he backed off the power quite a bit coming in. B-17's have always been my favorite plane since I was a kid.. these really are nice.
Many good builders can't fly for shit
+Jeff RcRc
Exactly!
You nailed it! Both takeoffs were horrible. The approach on the crashed B-17 was amateur at best.
...I didn't want to rub salt in the wounds, but yes, many of the most meticulous builders I've known were crazy talented, at BUILDING. But often, they're just not very good at flying. I've been asked to set up, maiden and properly trim many amazing models for people just like that. I feel lucky and honored they trust me. They're often "old school" guys and are barely comfortable setting up their radios with anything beyond dual rates. You can't imagine how many weren't knowledgeable or were straight up afraid about programming in a bit of "Expo" to help tame their models.
It's important to get the tail up and fuse. level during a takeoff run. Seen so many try and take off full throttle with the tail planted / stick pulled back.
That and they can't tune their engines to equal rpms - always gonna screw the landing approach.
great planes, sure glad to see you got her rebuilt. is that a kit plane or did you build it from plans. great video
Why take off on grass when you have a perfectly usable runway? Never understood that.
easier to take of and land... even on full sized airplanes it is the case
the wheels slid a little bit on the grass ... that makes it easier to handle the plane on the ground...
I remember well when i flew full size
Back in World War 2, they only HAD Grass Runways as Concrete ones had not been invented yet.
DIOSpeedDemon what the hell does that have to do with this model and the runway afforded to it ten feet away? Back in WW2 they didn't have PCs and mobile phones either, what's your freaking point?
i believe they had plenty of concrete landing strips
easier on the undercarriage. Full scale planes like to land on grass too....
@railnwings Have you build it from scratch or buy a ready one body and put into it all what you need?
All that time, care and attention to detail.... No scale take offs... sigh.
@railnwings So, basically.. he set off the airplane with the wrong control settings on the one transmitter, and when he was trying to turn but it never turned.. and resulted the crash?
The way it came apart on impact was incredibly convincing of a real plane crash minus the wood.
Glad to see it rise from the ashes. I always thought the B17's were one of the best looking planes from WW 2. You have a very nice model.
MAY DAY! MAY DAY! I'M GOIN DOWN!
2nd landing, very sweet and gentle. Well done, sir; and great video. Thanks.
I hate when that ground comes out of no where
tyler bonser me to dude
The unmistakable sound of those beat frequencies going on between those engines.
It was her 26th mission... :(
24th
Jollyroger Hobbies 26th
did the B17 Tail wheel break after landing, when it turned round i swear its tail was dragging along the ground??
Very inauthentic take-offs.
i bet you anted to cry! was it a down draft/burst? or what ever they are called?
His takeoff sucked, and so did his landing.
Brian E. Scott you can see slightly windy conditions, but possibly this was a 1st flight. slight dip in power and descend to fast angle. why are you bashing?
pds tech the plane did the bashing...into the ground.
How did you manage to land the plane like that? Engine trouble? I felt sad when it happend, but glad when I did see the plane back in good shape. The second landing was much better :-))
Hi! Excuse my ignorance, but, what is the cause of the accident? It seems like it just lost power and then crashed!
very nice efforts friend
@railnwings How did one of them crash? no fuel? attacked? malfunction?
Two scary approaches only difference is the plane was in 1 piece after the second one. Is he a crap pilot or is the plane a lot heavier and balanced differently to the silver one??
Beautiful airplane - what caused the crash? Nice to see her flying again!
Oh no, how could you....?
Very nice planes, which scale is it?
they both seemed to be heavy by the right hand side. was that the plane, or the pilots fault?
What caused the crash? Lose radio signal, engine power, dead battery in the radio, or inexperienced pilot?
I can imagine what the pilot said to himself after he landed : " I GOT YOU BACK " , with a super big smile on his face , I know the feeling
What happened? Why did it crash like that? Was it just pilot error?
it looks to have a much higher landing speed than the 1st b-17. Heavier build? Whatever the case great model i want it lol. well done on the rebuild and great flying
It doesnt look like a incorrect trans set up to me. Looked like plan old pilot error, the plane flew just fine for several min before the bad landing. What was wrong with the trans?
Were these hand made, or were they bought? And how expensive are they?
Where's this at I remember flying at a place called watts and this looks familiar
just about stacked it again! why dont you use flaps? It would help slow it down on the final......
How would the plane crash into bits and then return next year good as new???
It seemed the crashed plane did not have flaps. Could flaps be installed on the plane to make landing a bit easier? Perhaps I am wrong and it did have flaps. I just did not notice them.
Indrid Cold Possibly. But the other plane didn't appear to have flaps. I think the main problem was the pilot didn't pull back enough, but he probably thought was pulled back enough
Thats what I like to see. Undaunted by catastrophy, the owner has rebuilt that beautiful model and is brave enough to fly it again. Congratulations!!!
What made it nosedive like that,windgust or a radio/servo malfunction?
what was the problem here?
malfunction or bad handling?
@railnwings
The rebuilt flight looks like the pilot splashed it into the tarmac (just like previous) except the fuse didn't rip apart when he bounced it on the landing..
Could not see for sure, but it sure appeared like it was landed quite heavily...
The best looking bomber of WW 2. Very nice models. Is this a certain brand, or hand built?
please reply, are those nitro rotary engines ? if so what nitro content?
I didn't see any chutes. Were they behind enemy lines?
Nice one. Amazing what two new wings and a new fuse can do.
With the way that the plane was tilting left and right on the way down, it makes me wonder if the pilot was fighting winds and just simply never noticed that the plane was at that angle
She's good to go ! Glad you got that classic up and running
Was that pilot error, or wind shear?
Wow, how much did it cost to repair it?
ouch! btw, what engines do you use?
Did you see that ME 109 pass by at the end just before the crash? THAT was impressive!
I'm in Youngstown, OH...Where can I go to watch stuff like this?
Did you build theses or did you buy them?
A great story and two great scale planes.
Nice work!
was that its first flight after the crash?
What is the amount of money all together that gets put into these planes?
What motors have been used? And is it a kit?
what is the flight time on one of these planes
I broke apart almost like a real one would (less dents, less ground being moved, etc, good job on the build
Hope it is still flying!
I am thinking about a new hobby. How much to own and operate those?
@Crashtruk2 It was rebuilt and flew a year later. See the last part of the video ie. "one year later"
those are some awesome models. and im glad to see that you got the one back up in the air.
Keep Flying.
The operator has a multi plane transmitter. It was set for a different plane. See previous comments for more info.
How much fuel do they carry?
Do long time hobbyists rage when they have a crash like that or does it become an "expected" event?
Looks better the 2nd time around. Realistic exhaust trails. Beautiful flying site, too. Good job, builder/flyer!
For a larger model, check the quarter scale B 25.
Anyone know were you can get this type of stuff in the u.k..or do you have to make it? :)
Were these kits or home made
horrible to watch, grate plane... but dear god what was the pilot doing there? ..
What engines do you have in it?
@fhhuber506771
Thanks! Could you give some tips to good places to seek out such help? A certain website you think might be a good place to look/shop?
Where were the other 8 feet?
one thing in common most R/C crashes occur so quickly , it only takes a split second to descend 30 ft .