DIY Hammer® High-End Jazz-Bass-Guitar produced with the CNC machine HNC 47.82 | Felder Group
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- Опубліковано 19 лип 2024
- Another proof of quality in a practical test! With this jazz bass guitar project, the Austrian Hammer® CNC portal milling machine for woodworking once again proves its unbeatable precision and performance in every use. CNC technology made affordable, for professionals or ambitious do-it-yourselfers without restrictions in terms of performance, quality and repeatability. By the way - we used Fusion360 to program our Hammer J-Bass Guitar.
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Best CNC guitar video on UA-cam.
Stereotypical German accuracy, efficiency, and luxury. Fantastic!!
Thank you for your feedback! 🤩👍
austrian !! not german ;-)
Great video! Such clear explanations and precise demonstration, thank you!
Great workmanship and perfectly thought-out technology for CNC. Watching this video, you would like to make your own guitar, instead of buying better or worse made designs.
As always, my friend "Harry" (Harold Tschurtschenthaler) narrator; and his "craftsman" extraordinaire; show the world HOW to "get her done".
Hammer (a part of The Felder Group) sets the standard when it comes to the best when it comes to being a "Cut above"..
Thank you Harry; for you are the greatest. A teacher extraordinaire also. Missed you at the woodworking show in Atlanta this year; due to the Virus. Hope to see you again soon dear friend.
Dixie and pat
Hello,
I will let Harry know :-)
Thanks for your compliment and next year we will be again present at the fairs 💪🏼
It looks and sounds great. Great video of the process of putting a guitar together.
Thanks for the compliment.😉
Very impressive machine. Thanks for sharing the video!
Hello SimpleCove,
Thanks for the compliment.😉 Best regards from Austria
This is extremely satisfying to watch
Absolutely stunning !!!!!!!!!! Awesome machine just like all of your other machines.Hatts-off to all of you from me and my mother.Please convey my regards to Mr.Heli.Superb job.
Hello Ketan,
thanks for the compliment! 😍 It´s much appreciated.
We will lead your greatings to Mr. Helli. 😉 Best regards from Austria
WOW THIS WAS MIND BLOWING!! GREAT JOB!
Thanks for your feedback! Lovely to hear 😍
WOW! An EXACT COPY of a Fender Jazz bass! How creative is that?
Some people dream of owning a Lamborghini. I dream of owning this CNC machine...
So do I - it's a cracking bit of kit!
I build mine ^^ more easy than build a Lamborghini :D
If you ever get a Lamborghini having a CNN machine might keep it on the road.
I felt the same way about the Felder Combination Machines. I bought one instead of a Harley...
Great decision 👀😎
Was waiting for this video: exactly why I'd buy this beatiful machine!
exactly , what we love to hear 😍 Feel free to get in touch us - we are looking forward to your call 🤗
Great video, Harry
Wonderful
I converted a table drill-mill to CNC, and used it to mill out a circle in an aluminium high-vacuum base plate for fitting a diffusion pump. This consisted of milling an annulus. I clamped the base plate, and the waste centre so it would not move around when the final cuts were made. There were no tabs that subsequently needed cutting off and finishing.
Why not do the same with the guitar ? There seem to be through-holes that could be used for the purpose
Fusion360 with CNC machine.. like a dream.
wow ! amazing ! nice video ! from japan
Pídela ya!! En México
My background is CNC manufacture& programming - this is one of the best videos I have seen for CNC guitar manufacture. ( I would love to know how long it took in 'real time' to make the body and neck with jig making & cutter changing ?) The surface finish straight from the cutter is the best I have seen, some complicated programming going on in the background - Fantastic Video and excellent clear presentation from The Felder Group
Hello Mark,
thanks for your feedback! Great to hear 😍
It took 2 hours 50 minutes for all pieces made on the cnc . Due to the video production we can't tell you how long it took us for the whole project
Best Regards from Austria
@@FELDERGROUPTV wow that's fast. May I know long it took for the neck and how long for the body?
Great video, looks excellent! Any chance of just the bass guitar audio?
impressive
I suggest Felder Group research programming into the HNC to do Checking Frets height, Frets Leveling and Crowning, Compound Radius Fingerboard, Scallop Fingerboard, Temperament/Fanned fret slot etc.. Come on Felder -Group, I know you can do it. Many luthiers will want it.
You can do that yourself....with the machine...are you asking for vids of it?
The proper way to do the arm contour is to shape the body blank then bend the top to match the contour using an iron to steam it into shape. Then a vacuum bag is used to laminate the Maple top to the Alder body blank. This is how you avoid the alder showing on the face of the arm contour close to the edge.
a great project, how long does it take to machine the whole guitar.
Офигенно!
wanderfull
Impressive video, I have a question all the bits that are used for this project where compression bits?
Hello Allan, thank you for your request. We used a standard "upcut" router bits for this project.
You can find it in our FELDER e-shop: bit.ly/3v6BCkb
Best regards from Austria
amazing. me like... now i need to make space for this as well... :)
Hello Izak,
Great to hear! 😊 If you need any further information, please don´t hesitate to get in touch with us 👍
Best regards from Austria
poderiam me passar o projeto desse Jazz Bass ? Quero comprar uma Hammer , que seja um pouco maior que essa. Sou do Brasil , como compro??
Is the file for this Jazz Bass only compatible with your cnc machine? or can I use them on a different machine?
Thank you for the great video, I would be very interested to know what router bit are you using (0.6mm for fret slots) that can operate so well at this high speed.
Hi,
you can find the right user bit in our e-shop with the Art. No. 500-06-0006P:
www.felder-group.com/en-gb/shop/router-bits-sc579339/router-bit-with-positive-twist-sp620580
Thank you@@FELDERGROUPTV
Amazing Video!! I'm not 100% sure why you didn't use the first diagonal (tilting left), than the right for the Neck Jig machining. With both angles cut with the lettering cutters you now have options for both. Did I miss something in the narrative as to why?
Thank you for your comment!
The program from the 2nd milling with the font cutter are all “just programmed” and the programs are then turned in the Eding CNC control software.
For a better understanding, it's best to download the construction instructions! (Download link in the description)
Lovely guitar. Do you know the name of the specific black stain used?
Hello Mark,
an ordinary black powder stain (water soluble) was used.
Best regards from Austria
There's a guitar company called Hamer with one M and for a second I thought this video was by them
Can someone tell me the approx RPMs of that fret slotting bit? I'm assuming this spindle goes no higher than 20k rpms?
Beautiful demonstration btw!
Hello Andy,
The spindle has max. 25.000 rpm, the fret slotting bit was operated at that speed.
Best regards
what cam do you use to make the programs? is it included in Fusion 360?
Hello Marco,
We used Fusion360 as CAM software. 🙂
Best regards
Do you mind linking the 8mm bit? It looks like some sort of helix cut bit? Cuts very cleanly!
Ah its in the pdf in the video
where can i get the file? I'm starting with my cnc and it would be very helpful, thanks!
I'm 73 and have programed turret punches since I was 20 and in business have owned many. Why not run the neck vertical and drill a few reposition holes . I have done parts 220 inches on a 48 inch x machine although the machines had pneumatic repositioning hold downs. Does this machine have ball lead screws and true servo motors ?
Fantastic! Doubt: What nema do you use in this cnc? nema34?
We use NEMA 24 stepper motors
Wow. Perfection. Can you share the drawings?
I was holding my breath when they branded the neck just incase it wasn’t square when finished! 😮
More precautions should have been in place for inadvertent movement. That could have gone oh so wrong.
Keren
👏👏👏
Wonderful video and machine! Is it possible to download the full files? I can only find the files for the top of the bass
Dear Mr. Kater,
you're able to download the files on our DIY-Page: www.felder-group.com/en-gb/diy-bass
Hey! Congratuklations for the amazing job! , can you share the files? Thanks
Hello Ramiro,
Thanks for your feedback! Please have a look on our website: felder.group/diy-jazzbass
Best Regards from Austria
Great piece - which software are you using for design / milling ??
we use Fusion360 😊
@@FELDERGROUPTV what's kind of wood you used? tks!
maple and ebony
3D Models of the Body and Neck and finger board? STL preferably. A great Build.
Good day Sir. Do you have tele and strat guitar produced Demo? Thank you
Hi!
Unfortunately, we have no data for tele and strat.
Have you released the dfx files?
How to do 3d carving on h200 ?
great job, i'm from Brazil would you sell the project?
We don't sell the guitar , but we will share the project plans of the DIY project 😊
Hi! Would you happen to know how many decibles the CNC produces?
Hello!
The sound pressure of the milling motor at idle is 71 dB(A). This increases depending on the machining strategy, the material and the tool used.
Best regards
Which Engine Spindle do you recommend? Above 300w until 800w?
We offer two spindle sizes for the HNC 47.82:
- The standard model for hobby use with 1000W.
- The professional model for continuous use and the largest possible chip removal with 2200 W.
Looks intriguing, but what is the machine price as demonstrated? I checked the website link and it only asks for quotes but it's helpful to know the price range for the base model or as demonstrated. Is this a $500, $1000, or $3000 machine? That kind of information should be disclosed in the video or notes section, could be as easy as "best machine under $1,000"
Its more like 7000$ ;)
Hi Jvin, please get in touch with our sales team to get the right offer with all your wishes.
i wanna work here please!!! can i order a certain bass neck?
Hello,
we are one of the largest manufacturer for woodworking machines , not for bass guitars 😉
Best Regards
Is there a tool changer available?
An automatic tool changer will be developed in the future but is not available on this machine yet.
Best regards
hello
would i be able to order a 6 string bass neck to my specifications?
Hello Rodney,
we would recommend you to contact your local Instrument maker.
Best regards from Austria
they have refused, too much work and too expensive, any chance you can do it?
Sorry Rodney, we are already working on new projects. But If we ever get into the guitar business, we´ll let you know 😉
Nice job, You should share some Fusion or DXF files ;-)
We will - stay tuned 😉
@@FELDERGROUPTV do you provide the complete project, including 3d?
The construction plan is in preparation. 😉
Meine größter Wunsch wäre ne richtig große holzberstbeitsungs cnc 5 achs mit 2 Vakuum Pumpen und doppelt soviele Vakuum Sauger und 8 nullpunkte um 8bretter gleichzeitig aufzuspannen. Dann auf jedes Feld rechts und links 4 Bretter drauf in jedes Eck eins. Und dann gib im damit man die Kosten wieder einholt alles andere macht die Maschine unbezahlbar
Gibts von der Felder Gruppe auch.
www.felder-group.com/de-at/produkte/cnc-bearbeitungszentren-c1953/5-achs-cnc-bearbeitungszentrum-profit-h500-p3281
truss rod ?
Truss rod access is at the heel.
what is the table size?
Unlimited machining options on the surface as small as a kitchen table: working surface 825 x 479 mm, through feed height 160 mm
MAY i take cnc dwg file please?
we will produce a manual for the bass guitar 😊 We will share on our social media channels then
Comparing this to some USA desktop CNC 's this is VERY expensive.
Great looking machine. You present a great workflow - but I'd never glue a fretboard on a neck that hasn't been almost fully shaped, given ample time to acclimate after machining, and "re-trued". Once you get 4 or 5 necks that warp a few weeks after you finish them you may agree. You step-by-step instructions don't seem to be readily available for examination, so hopefully your toolpaths are such that there's some built-in "relief" designed in that neck to insure the truss rod is under tension.
I love the jig you made for drilling into the finished body - that's some great insurance.
Thanks for your feedback 👍
if your neck warps after machining then it wasn't dry in the first place...
@@thomasreynolds1530 Absolutely not true. Wood (particularly kiln-dried woods) have natural stresses. If you're not using absolutely quarter-sawn wood there is definitely a chance of movement after any significant machining operation.
But hey - you do you.
@@donvanco3078 no major mfg does this. They do, however, machine with the fretboard on: ua-cam.com/video/2yXm_3dEBNA/v-deo.html which makes total sense, since it would counter any warping. Have you ever had a neck warp after gluing on the fretboard?
Für mich kommt diese Maschine nicht in Frage das ist nicht wirtschaftlich wenn so wenig Power hat und alles ewig dauert.
Mehr Leistung und das Teil als 5achs cnc in Größer in 3m x 2m fräsplatform
Professional wood manufacturing designer and guitar maker here. This is a nice demonstration of what a Hammer CNC is capable of, however this is not a good example of profitable manufacturing efficiency and hence portrays the machine more like an expensive toy. The typical margins on making a simple instrument - especially Fender style - would be blown out of the window using CNC like this. Realistically, the CNC would be far more productive and profitable creating routing and sanding jigs, templates and other working aids for traditional manual milling and processing operations. It's deeply false to say that the various traditional manual techniques are no longer necessary, so I have to disagree with that. This Hammer CNC would have its place within a luthier's shop however it is not a good turnkey solution on its own; I've actually considered this to assist with my furniture manufacture, but it's a big ticket purchase and I do not see sufficient return value as of yet. Still, nice video on how to make an instrument using CNC, if somewhat impractical from a profitability standpoint.
Thank you for your honest feedback 👍🏼
As much as I love the idea of what this technology can do, I have to agree with you Tristan and was thinking much the same whilst watching the video about it being an excellent tool for making templates and radius sanding blocks etc. The amount of expensive wood being wasted here could be vastly reduced though I guess by using an MDF or plywood substrate with the tonewoods, to work around the clamping/waste material issue? I assume the big guitar factories in Indonesia and China are already using CNC as much as possible, but we all know this does not produce instruments of the same quality as those produced by the best luthiers, or worth anything like their instruments (even once a skilled luthier has set them up properly, or as good as you can with what you’re given 😉). £7k is a massive investment for any small guitar builder business and even then, their customers are attracted to them for their personal skills and pay the highest prices for instruments crafted by hand, not on a CNC machine. Otherwise they’d just build kit guitars (if you could find any of decent quality) and sell them on. I also can’t imagine many skilled luthiers would have the patience to re-programme a machine or computer 3D model to adjust or compensate for the small changes that you spot are needed as you’re working, instead of addressing it with hand tools in less time than it takes you boot up a computer. I’m sure one day the technology will improve the interface between the human mind and these machines to make it quicker and easier, but that’s still a long way off. All that said (sorry I know it was a lot) these are amazing machines for the right job
@@stephendixon8575 Hi Stephen! Well, CNC is excellent at repeated jobs so really the money and return comes from how well it is integrated into the process on the whole. Warwick/Framus are an excellent example of this, where they are more or less bringing entirely shaped instruments off the CNC after a small number of machining cycles. Then again, they are charging in the region of several thousand to five figures. A CNC such as this isn't powered for repeated cycles plowing through part after part, however I would happily welcome Hammer/Felder proving me wrong here! My main weapon of choice at work is a 6-axis beast (HOMAG Venture 200) which makes short work of Corian, hardwoods and composites. The Hammer CNC Portal feels more appropriate "as a portal" for taking work from the desktop to the real world; mostly for templates and prototyping than "in the material" itself. For one-off jobs, certainly. So the cost of this is £7k as a turnkey product? That's an incentive that is reachable, and I think the "portal" name has its place. Not too much more expensive than a big gaming PC setup and I'm sure that with the right few paying projects I could run this dead into the ground and still make it pay! haha
1st , your post or comment makes you sound like a giant Snob. 2nd, no where in this video do they talk about " profitable manufacturing efficiency ".
You said that so you could then imply it's just an expensive toy. It's not mister Holier than Thou. 3nd, they never said this machine is to allow people to compete with Fender. Your statement is absurd. 4th, they show at least 4 different Templates or holders to make other parts. So what are you even talking about?
5th, and this is a big one ...They never claimed that "traditional manual techniques are no longer necessary". They never even talk about "turnkey solution" in this video.
" however it is not a good turnkey solution on its own; I've actually considered this to assist with my furniture manufacture, but it's a big ticket purchase and I do not see sufficient return value as of yet." Well that's your fault. Doesn't mean anything is wrong with this CNC machine and most people looking at it are either still learning how to make guitars , looking for tips or looking for a Mid level CNC machine to step up to from the $500 - $2500 range CNC's machines they probably already own and make money from.
@@SystematicMechanic I think you need to sit down and catch your breath! Seriously. No need to manufacture mountains out of molehills here.
It’s very nice, but where’s the craftsmanship? The CNC code is the only bit of imagination on this. Don’t get me wrong, it’s cool as hell, but no small guitar builder would use it for bodies. I could think of a lot better uses than a guitar body that’s just a JB knockoff
I need your clothes, boots and your bass guitar.
🤣😂
lol the music is definitely not what they're playing in the video
What a waste of a nice piece of maple.
Can you please share a video of your setups in fusion? I have been working on a guitar neck design and my cnc runs the file but my z axis is only cutting half the depth of the file… I can’t figure out what is going wrong
Hi @colinsnyder3082, thanks for reaching out!
We suggest double-checking and calibrating your device to ensure it's set up correctly. Feel free to review our step-by-step guide here: felder.group/diy-jazzbass; it may assist you in pinpointing the error.
If you're still experiencing issues, please don't hesitate to get in touch with us! :-)