One Thing: Katie Gately - Composing without listening
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- Опубліковано 31 жов 2022
- Our One Thing series takes you into the workspaces of musicians, producers and other artists to discover a method they rely on to keep their creative flame alight.
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This reminds me of how composers used to imagine the sounds of the instruments in their heads and write notes for them on paper without immediately hearing the result of the entire ensemble playing it. Technology often spoils us with the ability to immediately play back our compositions bar-by-bar. Slowing down to focus on building and expanding our imagination is a worthwhile exercise. I often get lost in the details when I add each element one at a time. It can be easier to try to build something up visually while imagining how it’ll sound in my head, and then listen back and remove/edit elements down to something that is close to what we initially imagined. Or discover a completely new direction and follow that.
Katie is not suggesting that you release a track that you built up visually and never listened to. Her last step is to continue to make edits using her ears. Surprise and chance have been an integral part of composition for many years. Thanks to Katie and Ableton for the video!
This is nothing like that. It's random, I would risk to say that its not even art as art conveys intent. Old composers knew exactly what sounds to expect and what would be the effect. She is obviously clueless up to the moment of turning audio up.
She does edit it later on, this is just to start
This is very cool. In my last project, I started throwing kits and sounds and set the volume of each track, in order to create a template before starting producing.
It's the same for me when I start a painting in the dark.
The unpredictability makes for an unforced and unique piece.
Cool stuff.
That's probably the opposite of the "trust your ears" philosophy, nice. :)
Love this approach! You can come up with some crazy stuff this way😁
Not really my bag but whatever works for you. All depends on what you are trying to accomplish or not sure what it is you want to accomplish, as the case may be. Often the best things come from random accidents. Thanks for sharing Katie.
wow, this is very surprising! thank you
Wild! Thanks for the tip Katie!
Awesome idea! I definitely want to try this.
This is such a cool idea - definitely going to try it
Neat idea using effects pedals that way. Cool!
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I like how these series is based on interesting ideas most people wouldn't think of
What a fascinating process
That’s very cool yes I want to try
That's crazy... I must try it!!!
Helen Keller actually made some bangers back in the day using this method.
At first i was like no shit! but it is really cool
Also the listener should listen to the tracks with volume all the way down.
I’ve started walking around with my eyes closed : it opens my creativity up to almost getting run over by cars
this is absolutely wild and i love it
Very clever! Love it.
Clever? Lol.
I'm pretty sure Weaver Beats already did this.
I was actually trying to think if we have a word for digital musique concrete. So much faster than splicing together tape haha
Imo this is kind of the opposite of musique concrete which is based on listening and perception of sound objects (Pierre Schaeffer's objets sonores) and not on reading partitions or composing before being confronted to sound materials. Plus musique concrète exists in the digital domain since it's a "musique sur support" (support being the tape, the digital audio file or wathever you write your sound on). So no need for a new word, or maybe dive into acousmatics then. Some amazing pieces of music there! Cheers
@@amouja607woah you just blew my mind mouja!!! I had just begun doing research on this so I was unaware of that relationship. I didn't think that with musique concrete you already know what the sound objects are and have a perception on how they would work in context indeed opposite of this tech. So cool!
@@e_abstraction Enjoy !
When I was in college they told us not to look at the screen so much and try only listen
Hey ableton can I get a shoutout? I love your program!!!
The musical equivalent of Jackson Pollock.
Nice. This is awesome
Wow this is so cool. Like cooking without a recipe - just trow everything together you randomly find in the kitchen. Mmmmh, so tasty! Thank you very much for your inspiring ideas.
6 months early
👏🏻 u cold for this one!
I don’t get it
A way to mix it up I guess; kind of oblique strategies, except even more random. I feel a AI could do this without any human input.
please invite skrillex
Ah, yes. Making sounds without hearing them. Superb idea...
Yeah...but the new shit is to make music witout putting the devices on...
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Altiverb
It's not composing. Sorry. It's just throwing random samples together. You can make techno that way but making music demands more care and intent.
😂 ahahahah (it’s a joke right?)
Post-modernism has become ridiculous at this point.
It's so trendy bro. You just don't get it bro. I promise bro. Try it bro.
@@chalkbodyoutline 🤣😂😓😭
Why not take it a step further do it without listening or looking?
@@aarondudfield2837 nah then take it next next level : do it without doing it
@@SLWNI I think this is a reality already
I've been with Ableton since Live 5, I wanna see more cutting edge production tools inside the software instead of all these fluff aesthetic UA-cam videos. Ableton feels dated to me, it used to be about work flow and simplicity and has gotten increasingly more complicated and lacking originality like some new plugins I see. But nevermind that let's just make music without hearing it....
Mad sus.
How so?
@@ReubenWalton You will understand when you grow up little one
Waaaah no counterpoint. No cadences. No staff music. Ableton is so trash now. Waaaah.
JUST LET AI DO IT FFS.... 😆
Uhh... No.
@@Mr.Meowgical explain how this method is any different is my point 😆
@@MoonLanta Because there is a person behind the computer making all of the arrangements, and even though it's muted, things are being arranged by subtle decisions. Even if the result isn't entirely predictable, that person still influenced the outcome.
AI would remove the person from the equation at least almost entirely, and the AI would make "decisions" based off of whatever factors it has been trained to, but those decisions would not be the exact same as the persons (not yet, anyway).
Why keep one over the other? Because being involved is a huge part of enjoying the creative process. If you let AI do the work, you would be enjoying the results of their work, not yours, and appreciating others' work is a different sensation than being the one to make it.
So, just don't use the method if you don't like it. I think it's just a challenge for novelty's sake anyway, but maybe it could help shake things up for someone who is in a creative rut.
Cursed video. Be gone, wtf
Ableton can you please put someone on who actually knows how to compose? I understand music and art is subjective and I respect that, but you guys always have these composers that stack sounds and rythms into random mish mash.
You are free to learn music theory & harmony theory and create music from 16-19th century
Yeah i agree. So many people have been on this and very few of them actually know what they are doing.
@@avrbch Would be a lot better than what was made in this video.
@@JayCee-tp2gv It won't be better - it will be different; and if you want to listen to something different - why are you watching videos in which people sharing THEIR OWN techniques of writing ELECTRONIC music
Have you ever gotten into a rut and need a new technique to spark your creativity? That’s what this series is about. If it doesn’t work for you, don’t use it. There are tons of videos about how to compose with Ableton in traditional ways.
Meh not for me
Switch to photoshop
At first it sounds like the most stupid method I've ever heard. But its actually quite smart.