One Thing: Katie Gately - Composing without listening

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  • Опубліковано 31 жов 2022
  • Our One Thing series takes you into the workspaces of musicians, producers and other artists to discover a method they rely on to keep their creative flame alight.
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  • @GhostKitchenBand
    @GhostKitchenBand Рік тому +39

    This reminds me of how composers used to imagine the sounds of the instruments in their heads and write notes for them on paper without immediately hearing the result of the entire ensemble playing it. Technology often spoils us with the ability to immediately play back our compositions bar-by-bar. Slowing down to focus on building and expanding our imagination is a worthwhile exercise. I often get lost in the details when I add each element one at a time. It can be easier to try to build something up visually while imagining how it’ll sound in my head, and then listen back and remove/edit elements down to something that is close to what we initially imagined. Or discover a completely new direction and follow that.
    Katie is not suggesting that you release a track that you built up visually and never listened to. Her last step is to continue to make edits using her ears. Surprise and chance have been an integral part of composition for many years. Thanks to Katie and Ableton for the video!

    • @erroristic
      @erroristic Рік тому +2

      This is nothing like that. It's random, I would risk to say that its not even art as art conveys intent. Old composers knew exactly what sounds to expect and what would be the effect. She is obviously clueless up to the moment of turning audio up.

    • @jona8659
      @jona8659 Рік тому

      She does edit it later on, this is just to start

  • @iraklismoschonas5214
    @iraklismoschonas5214 Рік тому +6

    This is very cool. In my last project, I started throwing kits and sounds and set the volume of each track, in order to create a template before starting producing.

  • @MichaelBLevi
    @MichaelBLevi Рік тому +16

    It's the same for me when I start a painting in the dark.
    The unpredictability makes for an unforced and unique piece.
    Cool stuff.

  • @danielrast
    @danielrast Рік тому +5

    That's probably the opposite of the "trust your ears" philosophy, nice. :)

  • @CNTRRNDM
    @CNTRRNDM Рік тому +4

    Love this approach! You can come up with some crazy stuff this way😁

  • @brucemillar
    @brucemillar Рік тому +2

    Not really my bag but whatever works for you. All depends on what you are trying to accomplish or not sure what it is you want to accomplish, as the case may be. Often the best things come from random accidents. Thanks for sharing Katie.

  • @AntonAnru
    @AntonAnru Рік тому +1

    wow, this is very surprising! thank you

  • @arnoldfranco9240
    @arnoldfranco9240 8 місяців тому

    Wild! Thanks for the tip Katie!

  • @Spiderhound
    @Spiderhound Рік тому

    Awesome idea! I definitely want to try this.

  • @zampkampmusic
    @zampkampmusic Рік тому

    This is such a cool idea - definitely going to try it

  • @majestic.feminine
    @majestic.feminine Рік тому +3

    Neat idea using effects pedals that way. Cool!

  • @Helios824
    @Helios824 Рік тому +3

    Ableton live Rules ✊✊✊🔥🔥🔥❤️❤️❤️

  • @zakur0hako
    @zakur0hako Рік тому

    I like how these series is based on interesting ideas most people wouldn't think of

  • @AnthonyPi1999
    @AnthonyPi1999 Місяць тому

    What a fascinating process

  • @degstep9968
    @degstep9968 Рік тому +1

    That’s very cool yes I want to try

  • @LukeSharples
    @LukeSharples Рік тому

    That's crazy... I must try it!!!

  • @grammit
    @grammit Рік тому +2

    Helen Keller actually made some bangers back in the day using this method.

  • @gabrielmorales930
    @gabrielmorales930 Рік тому +2

    At first i was like no shit! but it is really cool

  • @oststadtseuche
    @oststadtseuche Рік тому +1

    Also the listener should listen to the tracks with volume all the way down.

  • @Higgzmusik
    @Higgzmusik Рік тому

    I’ve started walking around with my eyes closed : it opens my creativity up to almost getting run over by cars

  • @goddoggoddoggoddog
    @goddoggoddoggoddog Рік тому +2

    this is absolutely wild and i love it

  • @shunpillay
    @shunpillay Рік тому +2

    Very clever! Love it.

  • @djsusan00
    @djsusan00 Рік тому +1

    I'm pretty sure Weaver Beats already did this.

  • @e_abstraction
    @e_abstraction Рік тому +1

    I was actually trying to think if we have a word for digital musique concrete. So much faster than splicing together tape haha

    • @amouja607
      @amouja607 Рік тому

      Imo this is kind of the opposite of musique concrete which is based on listening and perception of sound objects (Pierre Schaeffer's objets sonores) and not on reading partitions or composing before being confronted to sound materials. Plus musique concrète exists in the digital domain since it's a "musique sur support" (support being the tape, the digital audio file or wathever you write your sound on). So no need for a new word, or maybe dive into acousmatics then. Some amazing pieces of music there! Cheers

    • @e_abstraction
      @e_abstraction Рік тому +1

      @@amouja607woah you just blew my mind mouja!!! I had just begun doing research on this so I was unaware of that relationship. I didn't think that with musique concrete you already know what the sound objects are and have a perception on how they would work in context indeed opposite of this tech. So cool!

    • @amouja607
      @amouja607 Рік тому

      @@e_abstraction Enjoy !

  • @lehaine
    @lehaine Рік тому

    When I was in college they told us not to look at the screen so much and try only listen

  • @GioLuck
    @GioLuck Рік тому

    Hey ableton can I get a shoutout? I love your program!!!

  • @michaelgabriel_music
    @michaelgabriel_music Рік тому

    The musical equivalent of Jackson Pollock.

  • @TK-oi6rv
    @TK-oi6rv Рік тому

    Nice. This is awesome

  • @Michael_Moon4242
    @Michael_Moon4242 Рік тому +2

    Wow this is so cool. Like cooking without a recipe - just trow everything together you randomly find in the kitchen. Mmmmh, so tasty! Thank you very much for your inspiring ideas.

  • @drk_fi
    @drk_fi Рік тому +4

    6 months early

    • @Uchoobdood
      @Uchoobdood Рік тому

      👏🏻 u cold for this one!

    • @No.0.o.0
      @No.0.o.0 Рік тому

      I don’t get it

  • @caleykelly
    @caleykelly Рік тому

    A way to mix it up I guess; kind of oblique strategies, except even more random. I feel a AI could do this without any human input.

  • @AlburgerTW
    @AlburgerTW Рік тому

    please invite skrillex

  • @h8f8
    @h8f8 Рік тому +3

    Ah, yes. Making sounds without hearing them. Superb idea...

  • @MDS77SUN
    @MDS77SUN Рік тому +1

    Yeah...but the new shit is to make music witout putting the devices on...

  • @chrisrevel2801
    @chrisrevel2801 Рік тому +7

    🤣

  • @basementrockets5798
    @basementrockets5798 Рік тому

    Altiverb

  • @erroristic
    @erroristic Рік тому +5

    It's not composing. Sorry. It's just throwing random samples together. You can make techno that way but making music demands more care and intent.

  • @christianduka7846
    @christianduka7846 Рік тому

    😂 ahahahah (it’s a joke right?)

  • @danilocaposeno
    @danilocaposeno Рік тому +33

    Post-modernism has become ridiculous at this point.

    • @chalkbodyoutline
      @chalkbodyoutline Рік тому +7

      It's so trendy bro. You just don't get it bro. I promise bro. Try it bro.

    • @danilocaposeno
      @danilocaposeno Рік тому +2

      @@chalkbodyoutline 🤣😂😓😭

    • @aarondudfield2837
      @aarondudfield2837 Рік тому +6

      Why not take it a step further do it without listening or looking?

    • @SLWNI
      @SLWNI Рік тому +1

      @@aarondudfield2837 nah then take it next next level : do it without doing it

    • @andreedipo6356
      @andreedipo6356 Рік тому

      @@SLWNI I think this is a reality already

  • @chalkbodyoutline
    @chalkbodyoutline Рік тому +2

    I've been with Ableton since Live 5, I wanna see more cutting edge production tools inside the software instead of all these fluff aesthetic UA-cam videos. Ableton feels dated to me, it used to be about work flow and simplicity and has gotten increasingly more complicated and lacking originality like some new plugins I see. But nevermind that let's just make music without hearing it....

  • @alexyoungbased
    @alexyoungbased Рік тому +8

    Mad sus.

    • @ReubenWalton
      @ReubenWalton Рік тому +5

      How so?

    • @shocktnc
      @shocktnc Рік тому

      @@ReubenWalton You will understand when you grow up little one

  • @dumafuji
    @dumafuji Рік тому +2

    Waaaah no counterpoint. No cadences. No staff music. Ableton is so trash now. Waaaah.

  • @MoonLanta
    @MoonLanta Рік тому

    JUST LET AI DO IT FFS.... 😆

    • @Mr.Meowgical
      @Mr.Meowgical Рік тому +1

      Uhh... No.

    • @MoonLanta
      @MoonLanta Рік тому

      @@Mr.Meowgical explain how this method is any different is my point 😆

    • @Mr.Meowgical
      @Mr.Meowgical Рік тому +1

      @@MoonLanta Because there is a person behind the computer making all of the arrangements, and even though it's muted, things are being arranged by subtle decisions. Even if the result isn't entirely predictable, that person still influenced the outcome.
      AI would remove the person from the equation at least almost entirely, and the AI would make "decisions" based off of whatever factors it has been trained to, but those decisions would not be the exact same as the persons (not yet, anyway).
      Why keep one over the other? Because being involved is a huge part of enjoying the creative process. If you let AI do the work, you would be enjoying the results of their work, not yours, and appreciating others' work is a different sensation than being the one to make it.
      So, just don't use the method if you don't like it. I think it's just a challenge for novelty's sake anyway, but maybe it could help shake things up for someone who is in a creative rut.

  • @mrkeeny
    @mrkeeny Рік тому +8

    Cursed video. Be gone, wtf

  • @alexkid1
    @alexkid1 Рік тому +12

    Ableton can you please put someone on who actually knows how to compose? I understand music and art is subjective and I respect that, but you guys always have these composers that stack sounds and rythms into random mish mash.

    • @avrbch
      @avrbch Рік тому +6

      You are free to learn music theory & harmony theory and create music from 16-19th century

    • @JayCee-tp2gv
      @JayCee-tp2gv Рік тому +5

      Yeah i agree. So many people have been on this and very few of them actually know what they are doing.

    • @JayCee-tp2gv
      @JayCee-tp2gv Рік тому +4

      @@avrbch Would be a lot better than what was made in this video.

    • @avrbch
      @avrbch Рік тому +7

      @@JayCee-tp2gv It won't be better - it will be different; and if you want to listen to something different - why are you watching videos in which people sharing THEIR OWN techniques of writing ELECTRONIC music

    • @GhostKitchenBand
      @GhostKitchenBand Рік тому +4

      Have you ever gotten into a rut and need a new technique to spark your creativity? That’s what this series is about. If it doesn’t work for you, don’t use it. There are tons of videos about how to compose with Ableton in traditional ways.

  • @KimonoEtrange
    @KimonoEtrange Рік тому +1

    Meh not for me

  • @kassinc5016
    @kassinc5016 Рік тому +5

    Switch to photoshop

  • @GP-pb4mz
    @GP-pb4mz Рік тому +1

    At first it sounds like the most stupid method I've ever heard. But its actually quite smart.