5 Levels of Apex Movement (Noob To Pro)
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Ottr dissects the 5 LEVELS of Apex Movement
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Apex Legends has many compexities of movement, from the simple Slide Jump down to the Tap strafe and all the combinations of it’s usage in the more complicated movement techniques. Ottr breaks down Apex Movement into 5 different Levels starting from NOOB down to the Movement GOD.
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As a horizon main, if you do not do 784 tap strafes per fight, and 491 wall bounces, you will get lasered even though you have one of the smallest hit boxes. Take it from a professional plat 4, it’s what you need to do.
Profesional and plat 4 do not go together in one sentence
@@potato3552 LMAOO
Whoosh
Sky bounce sim
😂😂
i think it should be a 6 lvl for super niche movement techiniques or specific combos like double wall bouncing, tap jumping, superglide into wallbounce
Im glad someone else shouted out quake. Litterally built the movement engines that things like portal titanfall and apex.
Oh yeah, that's true that movement helps a ton in Apex Legends, especially on PC. However, since movement works a bit different on console, could you do one for us console players next?
U can do most of these on controller
@@Asdasjajjajsjs Surely you mean console? I ask because it seems that a lot of people get that mixed up when they try to speak inclusively saying mouse or controller, but mostly they're talking about both inputs on the PC version.
There are things that can't be done on console, like tap strafing for instance, or even Revenants wall climb the way Guapee uses him.
@@Pax_the_Casual whats the difference between console and controller my g
@@cosmicducky1272 You can bind Tap-strafes and other movement tech on Steam with Controller, but you can’t do the same on Console
@@Pax_the_Casual controller console same thing
I would say understanding lurches should be above tap strafing most people learn to tap strafe before momentum shift or pito strafing (the clip you show from gruic), the mokey’s “superjump” clip was showing off hyperjump, also the explanation that you gave for mantle jump was the first method, later thevilinside develop another method a bit more complicated input-wise but way more consistent to perform
You're right on the lurches, didn't think of that when writing the video. I didn't choose the clip for the superjump but will ream my editor for that miss
i play apex a lot and what...
@@danielemery2420 Lurch is movement input with lesser impact as the time from a jump increases. Momentum shift I think they mean chaining lurch inputs with direction change and air strafing which allows you to keep momentum. Hyper jump is a double suberjump which is from any zip line you jump directly after interact launching you up. Mantle is when you climb over something, not sure what the tech is.
@@youspilledthis hyperjump is not possible in all ziplines only on horizontal ziplines, i wouldn't call it double superjump because the height gain from it is not double and more like a superjump+normal jump.
ultra jump imo it’s more similar to a double superjump but don't know if it was affected by the zipline nerf cause i never bother to learned it
a mantle jump is a superjump in coyote frames, we knew for a long time that you can superjump in coyote time and also knew that mantle resets jumpfatigue but thevilinside discovered that when you cancel a mantle, it still gives you coyote frames so you can superjump out of it without touching the floor
2k hours. Still an auto sprint enjoyer. Added an extra key bind into config file for walking for those ambush plays.
5k hours on autosprint lol
I was hoping their was someone else but yes almost 3k hours and auto sprint is on. What does it mess up in your game?
2:38 you are wrong many movement pros use auto run treeree Dazs some guapee and others, what exatly does it mess up? you will have a skight delay before firing anyway bc you better travel aroung holstered and you wil take a little time taking out your gun
I disagree and think that this option is always uo to preference
But as a movement enjoyer myself i like for my hand to be free of pressing another buttong on top of all other inputs i have to do
dude ottr didnt even know about fatigue bounces not long ago, i wouldnt be surprised if this vid is full of miss information
This is the table of contents that I needed to navigate apex UA-cam as a noob. My movement technically is more like novice to avg tho because a lot of this stuff was in cod at some point , but I’m addicted to this game officially . I’m lost on the jump fatigue thing lol , just cool that movement in this game has so much depth.
treeree has a good vid on jump fatigue. the concept is pretty simple, but implementation is more difficult
do you play on PC or console ?
like this other guy responded- Treeree's guide on fatigue is REALLY good- but sometimes I have time to pull some one into firing range for some 1 on 1 help.
I strongly disagree with the auto sprint one. It’s literally preference.
It's not even preference...there are more things that speak for auto sprint than against it... every movement player that still has auto sprint off only has it because he got used to it or doesn't know how easy it is to walk while auto sprint is on...
Wallhopping is definitely not an average player mechanic. The logic behind making it work defies conventional thinking and you need to get the distance to start the slide, the timing of the jump, and coordinating your movement key inputs to effectively do a wall jump. The average player cannot do these.
The average player can't do these if they do it once or twice every month. It doesn't take 12h a day of training either.
I think this guy just had trouble comprehending wall jumps and figured everyone else has the same issue. I learned to wall jump within the first couple months of playing the game all on my own, and I am by all means an average case, cause all of my friends did the same.
Auto sprint is pure preference and doesn't make you worse. Many of the best movement players in game use auto sprint, including Mokeysniper that was mentioned in this video.
thats entirely wrong and im too lazy to explain
ua-cam.com/video/jlTvolNAns0/v-deo.html i think this guy is explaining why
@@-m0d0n u can actually walk with auto sprint on just crouch or jump with weapons holstered and hold right click
@@-m0d0n Or then you just don't have an explanation. That small delay that you have from running to firing is insignificant 99% of the time. Auto sprint doesn't do anything when side strafing and when you're moving straight you're running or already shooting anyway.
Good players, especially movement players have their gun holstered when they're not shooting so theres often gonna be a small delay anyway if they're not fully expecting a fire fight.
I'd love to hear how autosprint makes you worse especially if you're a movement player.
Dude even conflates ras strafe and neostrafe, a lot of this video is out of wack.
Super gliding is pretty easy for me now I can do it really constantly but I don’t know if it is just a console thing
It is a console thing
Heavily disagree with the things you sayed about auto sprint...There is exactly 1 downside to auto sprint and that is that you can't inspect while running...other than that there are only advantages:
- you are faster (auto sprit kinda presses the sprint button at the perfect time for you)
- 1 less button to press while doing other crazy movement shit
Extreme Movements tryhards like treeree always play with auto sprint enabled for these reasons... and recently even m&k apex pros who definitely are in the top 10 when it comes to movement among the pros started to realize these advantages and turned auto sprint on (e.g. NRG Nafen)...so unless this makes them "noobs" I think that speaks against the things you sayed XD.
A lot of pros just think that you can't walk if you have auto sprint enabled...but since some of them finally lern that you still can there is not much left that speaks against auto sprint other that "being used to it"...
I faintly remembered treeree may have had auto sprint or something on when writing the video but didn’t pursue it further, would’ve kept the part about turning it off in the script but added the movement pro turning it back on
-longer time to pickup a weapon in your hand coming from a sprint rather than from a walk (takes longer to pick and/or shoot)
-steps audio are increased, you can no longer sneak and have to go sideways
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also walking bind is an autoconfig game change that is not allowed in ALGS
@@rondonstreams As I sayed: "A lot of pros just think that you can't walk if you have auto sprint enabled"... You can! Just hold right click and start walking with auto sprint on... No seperate config needed! There are like 5 people in the world that know this so you are no exception...
The upside crawling scene in this video confuses the fuck out of me haha!
Now we need a video on how to DO all these techniques.
This was supposed to be that but we cut it down to keep it a bit shorter, in the meantime check out the creators I mentioned at the end - they do a great job of explaining
I have to write a whole diary of apex movement because there are JUST SO MANY!!!
I'm and elite movement player on controller on console. So I can do everything except tap strafe
This information takes up 50% of my brain memory.
my god the fall stun bit gave me a stroke
You can super glide on Titanfall as well it's just harder to time because the climbing is weird in that game
This helped a lot thank you
Well i can do wallbounce paired with tapstrafe (full 180), superglide consistantly, superjump with ziplines, bunnyhop (with spacebar), but still have auto sprint enabled xD
Inspect key to shoot faster isn't really a movement tech but related. You missed elite jump, zipline mantle cancel, wattson insta holster q, backwards superglide with octane etc.
and floatjump too, honestly I disagree with alot of movement tech ottr tried to put in a different "movement level".
I think rather than saying things like "players on level x can do this tech and that tech", it would be more ideal to imagine movement tech is like iceberg graph with tap strafing/wall bouncing on the tip of it.
The deeper you research the more you find out about different movement tech, such as walljumping on door slide or float jumping.
Putting "zipline to wallbounce" as a god movement tier is pretty weird for me, because what makes someone a movement god is the amount of movement tech + consistency of someone who can use them accordingly.
Someone like faide for example, is very consistent with his slide jump and super jump, but he's not fatigure jump or mantle jump monster like treeree is. There's also guape's revenant specific tech, where does it belong in this level then?
@@waterpkmn what’s a floatjump
@@Arithmeticspidershoelace its like using zipline without jumping, its hovering..
Treeree made a video about it. Pretty advance stuff
@@Arithmeticspidershoelace both a crouch and jump input in the same time frame like a normal jump but with the possibility to tap strafe after it
@@waterpkmn 100% agree. No disrespect to Ottr's video, it's still good content. Just not exactly how I would have made it.
Your thumbnail, it has the exact same “level scale” thing as a video by Jeff Nippard titled “how to build muscle explained in 5 levels.” Where did you find it?
we used his as the template
@@Vexian it is literally just the exact same thing as his tho edited on to this thumbnail, I would hardly consider that a “template,” I was wondering if you both got it from somewhere else
I've got a weird mix of this stuff time to fill out everything
Guess I just absolutely suck at Apex movement. thanks for that knowledge.
its hard to really tell what knowing how to do a tech really is, knowing how to tap strafe is easy, anyone can do it, but mastering it? now thats a whole different conversation, i would not be able to play the game with tap strafe unbound. also momentum shifts are actually super complicated in some techs and hyperglide consistency also plays a big role in a players movement mastery. The topic is an interesting one, id like to see more stuff about this. Really interesting to think how I would stack up to the rest of the players in movement
i guess you needed to mention that horse jump on kings canyon houses
more importantly that one zip jump that only works on worlds eadge and needs a bakwards input superjump
i think you meant tap-jump for the worlds edge tech, and mag jump for the kings canyon one
bro used Jeff nippards thumbnail for the level list lmao
Ahh yes I love messing up my controller when turning off auto sprint
I’m not gonna lie I hate how u started and finish but damn it I still laughed and enjoyed it 😂👍
I’ve been super gliding like a madman for the last month, definitely need to learn the wall run next.
Wall run is easy tbh just jump at a wall like your gonna bounce off it slightly look the other way the junp
i cant superglide ever but i can consistently wall run
@@zaplug300 MASSIVE Tip set you crouch to c and hit space and c at the same time when the camra stops cshacking
@@Asdasjajjajsjs no its because i play on 240 fps
@@zaplug300 lower it to 120 or 140
Can you do this video but only for controller pls
Titanfall movement is so good Apex's movement is just leftovers of it
"The average player also knows......"
I guess i am actuall just bad then lol fml
Am I wierd for this I never really learned how to tap stared but I went straight to super glide on like 160 fps and basically mastered it
zipline crouch into wallbounce is the most useful thing ive learned
I can do all the stuff in elite except tap straif because I play on controller
0:22 "Movement pro" - showing Hal as footage lmfao
I thought that the thumbnail was off the same person with and without glasses
how about shiv? he's using basic movement and still a pro.
I’m elite apparently (I only have 500 hours on apex that’s pretty good I think) I also know a few pro movement technique and still learning them.
I think it's more than just knowing the techniques, not bashing or doubting you but I think the elite and pro level is being able to utilize it to its fullest and getting the most from it. It's one thing to know the binds and how to do it but it's another to capitalize on the movements during intense fights and last second decisions. I think that's what separates elite and pros from just knowing how to do it. Anyone can learn the movements but at the end of the day it's how you use and abuse it
@@ok..5271 i do abuse it...
Yeah movement is key to apex! But the only issue is that movement on M&K compared to controller is night & day difference! Way easier on PC for sure!
Id argue it's easier on console to do any movement except tap strafing because mnk is hard to learn for a lot of people and controller is pretty simple
I like apex movement but hate that there is so much barely intended thing in it
Hey ottr what do u think about the auto run and manual run in apex i know alot of streamers that use the autorun to
i disagree. level 1: sliding without jumping, never holstering level 2: jumping then sliding, holstering occasionally level 3: slide jumping, holstering when they're not fighting, wall-bounces level 4: slide jumping, good wall bounces, can bunny hop and hits superglides sometimes, superjumps level 5: superglides, wallbounce, fatigue wallbounce, bunny hop, super jumps, mantle jumps
So you can't cancel fall stun by punching the GROUND anymore, but I think you can still cancel it by punching other objects. I've maintained gravity cannon momentum by punching the cannon as I land before and it acts the same as if you grappled the cannon for the speed boost. If someone could confirm for me I think you can also cancel fall stun by punching objects especially angeled objects but I'm not sure
For what I know he was right on that one, you can’t punch cancel anymore, I heard it was still possible with the remaining punchboosting method but I never seen someone do it or neither I can’t replicate it myself, anyway if you successfully punchboost out of a gravity cannon and you want to, clip it and try uploading it to apexrollouts on reddit, it would be really helpful
Forgot to mention if you actually attempted to do uploaded, enable the speed indicator with this command +cl_showpos 1 in the advanced launching option
@@gyaku4106 so I play on console so unfortunately no speed indicator :( but I will try and replicate the punch boost. It was on one of the gravity canons that somehow got missed during the tap straff nerf so maybe that has something to do with it?
@@jeremynunya1188 i think punch boosting doesn’t rely on lurching because it was doable on console so it shouldn’t affect in any way
ive learned how to mantle jump, but still cant superglide :(
Can a solo enter the ALGS
Seems like a lot of work. I'll just stream on twitch and complain to the devs to nerf things to my liking, that alwas seems to work
but but but... I still have autosprint enabled....
apex wasnt my first game so im just a mess with the movement i do
They patch everything but the glitches that benefit less than 1 pct of the playerbase.
I almost never see people using the Pita strafe even though it takes about 1 hour to learn. Bind shoot to a keybind and you can fire while doing it. No scrips needed and super consistent provided your frames match your monitors refresh rate to make bhopping easier. Couple with octane to be a menace when closing out weak players.
Idk how you learned that quick but for me it has been pretty hard, just recently thank to the r5 kill cam feature I can say I can do it to a certain extended but lose all my momentum pretty quickly, also is pito strafe
@@gyaku4106 how's your bhop? Use air strafing to keep max speed while bhopping. You can also use no lurch tech to help so you dont bleed momentum while lurching. Then its just a matter of including in the scroll wheel at the right time. I had bhopping and no lurch down already so maybe its harder than i expected.
If you are not sure what no lurch its used more in tf2 but you can use it in apex, check out bryonatos movement guide
@@Data1us i already saw that guide, but does the air strafing behave the same way in apex? I don’t think you can speed up at all while bhopping, also if you scroll aren’t you lurching so what’s the point of a lurchless jump?
I got to admit that lurch still confused me even after both zweek’s videos still don’t know why appparently the lurch mechanics doesn’t care about the keys you’re holding but for the direction of both keys combined but in some scenarios where you can create a sideways lurch with a diagonal lurch then cancelling the forward lurch with a backward one but both the forward and the backwards can’t happen in the same time frame, like the first step of tap jump (I think I doesn’t have a name for it) or the mantle jump to roof of the shaft without tap strafing
@@gyaku4106 Yup its the same, only difference is the max momentum cap in apex is only as fast as you can run. So in titanfall we use air strafing and lurchless air strafing all the time as a core movement mechanic to gain speed. Where in apex you use it mostly to maintain speed. Bhopping with lurchless air strafing is i guess just ingrained into how i bhop from tf2. Def try it out, perhaps it will help, either way its still a cool little thing to have in your you bag of tricks.
I can superglide but not tap strafe
When ever i play apex i play like a Oldman slow as fuck even when i move around slow as fuck ya i don't know how to fix it ?
i would say i am above average player/movement player but there are soem things i dont know or just dont do, like super jumping on ziplines, even after practising this for hours i still cnt do it, and i still have auto sprint on because my controller is broken and i need a knew one(the left joystick doesnt work when i press it so i cant use it to run or zoom in on zoomable scopes)
i read the other day about hitting your interact and jump at the same time then just time the second jump maybe that could help
Autosprint is fine it doesn’t have any disadvantages anymore and helps me when the game decides I’m not sprinting even though I’m holding in my shift
@@gyaku4106 i could try that
You’re a wizard Harry
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I'm gonna be honest movement does not matter very much in Apex, the only beneficial techniques are tap strafing, slide jumping, air strafing, and all of the advanced pathfinder grapples.
Auto run is the best thing the game has tbh. Im high rank and still using it. There is nothing wrong with that.
Always use cool movement in firing range.
Die not doing it or trying to do it in the game :D
Love how Shiv is one of the top players out there and does NON of this. Knowledge will always beat skill 👌
Shiv is dog shit
does having something extra to ur skill a problem?
No...Aim will always beat movement...
Wonder why people that can literally do all of that still get one clipped if they run into a 0.6 AA Andy...
This might not be true but I think faide and aceu play with auto sprint
Thought this was a tutorial lol not just you telling us what good players do
Lol I can super glide and mantle jump but can’t b hop or zip jump 😢😂
imagine😂 i can do all of them at the same time😎
As a controller player on Xbox most of this is useless but still really cool to watch
Nice
I'm between an average and elite movement
yeah but who needs movement when you hit 100% of shots
I knew my movement was bad, but Im like in between noob and novice and im in diamond😭
nothing past the basic stuff is important, mostly for pub stomping
Let's goooooooooo
Corner wall running
After watching this video I’m confident spending $250 on Wi-Fi is my only way to get better
So that makes me half elite half pro also got above average aim and godly recoil control I just lack better gaming equipment some great positioning and some teammates that I would think that they are humans💀 I am not even diamond bro solo queueing is shit :/
I’m average as usual 👍
I don't agree with the auto run I've covered alot of people too it, u just need to have walk as a binded button like in csgo 🤣
So I got 1100h in the game and I'm currently almost Elite level. What do u think guys? How many hours in the game you got and what is your movement level?
I got 2000 hours and I am like half elite half pro
@@averny__4472 Nice, lets make sum 1v1's or games someday if u want
@@zeusdavid4104ok but can't now cuz I got no internet connection probably connection is coming back like 3 weeks later because they are moving the cabinet related to that thing also I live in Egypt and fuck sisi lmao he does anything non necessary like upgrading the roads (that's why they are moving the cabinet) haven't got internet connection for 19 days and I am losing my mind💀, how many days left for shadow royale? and I am on controller but got those master PC movement techs but on my friends PC but can't do them cuz I am on PS4 :/ you would probably ask how I got internet now I am just standing by the internet company center cuz they got free internet there
@@averny__4472 Bro what a diffcult life you living lol. Shadow royale is gone, guna game is back
Normal players can lurch but not superglide
Ottr the average player is on console we can't all afford I PC so do a console because I'm a elite movement player on console
Movement players use auto run. Faide is the only one who doesn’t
Can you point links in how to do this where to learn? I'd love to get better mechanics but I don't even know what to learn. I can tap strafe wall bounce etc, but idk where or what even is the more complicated stuf
Just browse through youtube for apex movement guides and you'll find plenty. Mokeysniper is like a godfather when it comes to apex movement content so you might wanna check his channels. If you use reddit there is a subreddit called "apex rollouts" that is purely focused on movement.
R5reloaded (modded apex) is a great way to practise movement without other players.
Soo close to first
tbh i like auto run more it just feels smoother
This is a good example of how elitist Apex has become. He lists so many complex movements as "shoulder shrug" average players.
isnt macroing bannable?
Will the GOAT reply
1600hours+ not a movement player, only slide jumps with good timing LMAO
Consoleplayers pls
I'm worst than a novice, but better than a noob🙃
.......the zipline super jump is novie?....
I can tap strafe, wall hop, etc with ease but I can't do this for shit lmao
Based on this ranking system I rank as a peak stage elite to entry stage pro movement which makes me feel so much better about myself
I thought I was first
Elite movement=PC, console players get shafted everyday and it will never change.
how much of that shit is nessesary to be "good" at this game, and with good i dont know what i mean... slighty above average maybe?
Yeah… what is bro talking about I don’t understand this way to complicated.
I guess I'm a controler ps5 average-elite
Hi
0:22 "pro"
omperial hall is not movment proplayer ;)
better show fade or aceu
I dont think that this is completely true (I mean the ranking for movement and I also think that otter misses a very important point). For example Fade does no fatigue bounces at all and so does Ace U but they are still considered movement gods because they're really good at a specific technique. Fade has the best possible timing for slidejumps and uses them like noone other is able to. Treeree is very good at chaining fatigue jumps and at getting more movement into the game. But in my opinion if you want to become good at movement, practice the basic slide jumps tapstrafewallbounces and superjumps and you can build up from that.
"I dont fear the one who practiced 50 techniques 3 times... I fear the one who practiced 3 techniques 50 times"
:)