I Spent 7 Days Learning APEX To See If It's Better Than Overwatch

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  • @SVBOW
    @SVBOW  10 місяців тому +17

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    • @JoeFiddle-ls5jh
      @JoeFiddle-ls5jh 10 місяців тому

      Great video

    • @JoeFiddle-ls5jh
      @JoeFiddle-ls5jh 10 місяців тому

      Love this content

    • @whitespace226
      @whitespace226 10 місяців тому

      The smooth apex movement is because its the descendant to titanfall 2 (it takes place after the titanfall 2 campaign and multiplayer) thats why its so smooth sometimes but its not on par with titanfalls movement

    • @anredanagram
      @anredanagram 11 днів тому

      Rank system is fixes by now.

  • @mechaflood2247
    @mechaflood2247 11 місяців тому +696

    My main gripe with apex is that it’s BR first. They have a playlist with more traditional gamemodes but it’s very clear that they treat this “mixtape” playlist as a warmup mode. I can honestly say that the most fun I’ve had in the game was a few weeks ago when the control mode was permanently available and not on a 20 minute rotation

    • @Tintin92436
      @Tintin92436 11 місяців тому +66

      Same. After all these years, just give me Titanfall. You don’t even have to add the Titans, just give us the regular game modes.

    • @butchbottoms
      @butchbottoms 11 місяців тому +4

      Tbh same control is a better and more fun format

    • @MOTLrBlaze
      @MOTLrBlaze 11 місяців тому +45

      As a daily apex player i absolutely hate the mixtape modes, they arent fun to me and feel unbalanced

    • @mechaflood2247
      @mechaflood2247 11 місяців тому +14

      @@MOTLrBlaze Everyone has their own tastes, some hate BR and some hate Gun Run. The mixtape modes are only unbalanced because they're (currently) using maps that simply weren't designed for them and there aren't mode exclusive patches that lets say increases caustic's barrel cooldown

    • @atomic_hok
      @atomic_hok 11 місяців тому +11

      I literally refuse to play BR anymore and only play mixtape but even mixtape is going to shit because they don't do anything with it and there's game breaking bugs in it like the spawn bug in control

  • @ToastedTater420
    @ToastedTater420 11 місяців тому +287

    As an apex player I appreciated this video, for the 3rd parties I recommend learning armor swaps. When you kill someone go into their death box and grab their armor as fast as possible, it will swap your current cracked one and give you more health to deal with any 3rd parties that may come. Apex’s gunplay and movement is second to none but has tons of issues due to being run on a modified source engine (a old outdated engine used for games like half life and portal) and with it being so old it comes with lots of bugs and issues

    • @jahkareramkissoon419
      @jahkareramkissoon419 11 місяців тому +5

      Hello no audio when you need it

    • @rupes96
      @rupes96 11 місяців тому +5

      ​@@jahkareramkissoon419 I never getting audio issue this season. Sometime other sounds effect or your teammate voice just overlay other team steps.

    • @TheRealJustMK
      @TheRealJustMK 11 місяців тому +5

      As an apex player, I totally agree lol
      Armor swaps for the win, positioning aswell is a big part of avoiding 3rd parties.

    • @jett_ac
      @jett_ac 11 місяців тому +1

      Source as in the Csgo engine? I had no idea, the movement in both games is so different

    • @jett_ac
      @jett_ac 11 місяців тому +1

      Is apex gonna move to source 2?

  • @gloves_ow3107
    @gloves_ow3107 11 місяців тому +79

    i was witness to a lot of overwatch gamers trying apex when it blew up, while i had played both games quite a lot. My take on the shift is that, because the overwatch community is so ranked-focused, all the streamers were getting right into ranked as soon as possible, but i think for a game like apex its crucial to your enjoyment of the game to just learn in a fun and casual environment like pubs, where people are more willing to fight. i remember watching flats and emongg playing apex and getting disheartened cuz ranked is just not as fun if youre not accustomed to the game yet. my advice to new apex players would be dont be afraid to run it up in pubs until youre comfortable doing ranked

    • @rhys8290
      @rhys8290 11 місяців тому +18

      They've changed this now so you have to be at least level 50 for ranked, which is a good change IMO

  • @artbybrandonlee
    @artbybrandonlee 11 місяців тому +112

    SVB! First off this is hilarious as both a former apex player and an og ow player. Secondly I really like this format. Applying the "Master and Apprentice" structure beyond ow characters and to other games is pretty engaging. Keep it up!

    • @broad_cat
      @broad_cat 11 місяців тому +7

      Agree. This series has not only been great content, but also a great bridge to new opportunities for SVB outside of OW. It's proof that SVB isn't just a great OW streamer, but a great content creator. And the connections he's built and relationships he's cultivated will hep smooth over rocky bumps in OW currently or whatever else may be in future.

  • @thephantomclaw4517
    @thephantomclaw4517 11 місяців тому +110

    a good way to take control of a third party situation is trying to not fight in a choke point, you don't want to be here because you'll get pinched if a third party comes along. if you're getting third partied try to make the two enemy squads fight each other while playing more passively to not draw attention to yourself. then you become the third party of your own fight

  • @pyrrhos8175
    @pyrrhos8175 11 місяців тому +86

    Really appreciated your Apex journey. Even if it wasn't your feel and the current ranked leaves much to be desired, these kind of steps are the exact kind of thing others who feel begrudgingly stuck in their current 1 game should take.
    Keep up the great work SVB, and enjoy D4

  • @GenesiisDavid
    @GenesiisDavid 11 місяців тому +21

    One thing you learn is how to wrap up fights quickly and not to over commit to a fight. Assessing if you can win a fight quickly and having a get out strategy is key in high level play. That helps against third-parties.

    • @user-gs1lz2pw9v
      @user-gs1lz2pw9v 7 місяців тому

      Hit and run tactics. Would be cool if guns actually killed you

  • @noname-hf9ty
    @noname-hf9ty 11 місяців тому +36

    I played Apex from its release until the release of OW2, I'd never played OW1 so I didn't have any expectations for it but I was pleasantly surprised by how simply FUN the gameplay was. As much as I love Apex that's kind of been my issue with it, Apex is a skill-based BR FPS and it makes the gameplay loop really tedious and tiring (especially if you played for 3 years like I did) and while Blizzard may suck the core gameplay they've sculpted for Overwatch is too FUN to put down sometimes, idk maybe that'll change after I'm jaded

    • @Brevokh
      @Brevokh 11 місяців тому +15

      I also played Apex for 4 years. Started playing OW 2 months ago, both games have nearly the same problems, both struggle with tons of mediocrity, while having good core gameplay. The difference for me though is that Apex is just boring, you spend 5 minutes looting just for a few fights per 10-15 minutes, while Overwatch is straight action.

    • @noname-hf9ty
      @noname-hf9ty 11 місяців тому +6

      @@Brevokh it's the Apex depression, as fun as Apex is we have to accept that Apex is a BR and will always remain a BR

    • @UNKNOWN-bt5vq
      @UNKNOWN-bt5vq 11 місяців тому

      Same reason here

    • @Shzl47
      @Shzl47 11 місяців тому +2

      It's probably best to stop playing a video game competitively after 3/4 years. Retire and find a new game to compete in.

    • @noname-hf9ty
      @noname-hf9ty 11 місяців тому

      @@Shzl47 I didn't even play competitively, I'd play ranked but not fully try hard and usually with friends to have fun with. Hell by the final 6 months I'd exclusively play unranked cause it had more action

  • @n1njafish894
    @n1njafish894 11 місяців тому +31

    the 3rd partying problem is actually better then it used to be, since the map has been changed many times to remove quicker rotations, and also generally people are more aware and consious of 3p

    • @rCrypto_Frog4148
      @rCrypto_Frog4148 11 місяців тому +2

      3rd partying is a part of the game. If fights are taking too long then it's up to you to leave the fight before you get 3rd partied.

    • @n1njafish894
      @n1njafish894 11 місяців тому

      @@rCrypto_Frog4148 yes, its a part of the game, but not by design. if a game has 3rd partying to this degree its an issue, thats why they blocked rotations on KC, thats why they changed WE. If a game makes it easy to 3p thats a fundamentally bad game design.

    • @redtesta
      @redtesta 10 місяців тому

      nah it was ok for a season or two but its still bad.

    • @nathanielnadeau6501
      @nathanielnadeau6501 9 місяців тому +4

      It's a strategic shooter with a constantly shrinking map. 3rd parties are inevitable regardless of map layout or size.
      Just get better at situational awareness.

  • @nerdquisentbon
    @nerdquisentbon 11 місяців тому +26

    hello SVB, as a french apex legends guide creator, i must say, i am happy to see the face of despair of people that genuinely tries to play apex. This game is both horrible and godtier. Very cool video and i really like the fact that you're keeping your calm minded way of analyse a game you dont know so much about it. love u!

  • @aaronolson6736
    @aaronolson6736 11 місяців тому +49

    Honestly the biggest thing that has kept me from trying Apex is the BR model. I've always been seeing it as the main competitor to OW, I'm just not a battle royale person. If I could start with basic tier loadouts maybe but between starting blank and, I'll be honest, having maybe average aim all I could really do is watch Apex while getting by with OW. Found DRG last year and that has scratched my Coop itch so maybe Apex is worth looking into if I ever want to get back to a PvP shooter.

    • @GTNyt
      @GTNyt 11 місяців тому +6

      there is actually more than a br mode there is a set of 3 rotating modes in a mixtape playlist of Team deathmatch Gun game like from a previous cod game and control (Domination) i highly recommend checking them out i love them so much it encapsulates the core gunfights of apex beautifully

    • @Shzl47
      @Shzl47 11 місяців тому +1

      This is why I loved Arenas

    • @qwertyg3666
      @qwertyg3666 11 місяців тому +5

      I would say that apex is not all that similar to most brs. If you don't want to land in a fight you really don't have to and you can basically guarantee good armours and weapons if that's how you want to play it. I would say though best play it with people who don't mind landing a little further from the action though as randoms will scream at you and that's no fun for anyone.

    • @doriandiamandis2263
      @doriandiamandis2263 11 місяців тому

      I mean with overwatch breaking their pve promises people will probably flock to apex

    • @Laura_Wolf
      @Laura_Wolf 11 місяців тому

      Try ittttttt, its really fun

  • @AshleyBunnys
    @AshleyBunnys 11 місяців тому +9

    Thank you for really giving apex a shot! i was expecting to click on this video and hear somebody just talk so much sh!t about it, but you really sat back and experienced the game. I'm not a fan of overwatch, but i still see why people love it. Apex is what makes my heart happy, i just wish you could've experienced it in a better state.

  • @doctorwho865
    @doctorwho865 11 місяців тому

    This is my first video I’ve watched from you I’m a 2x apex pred and 5x masters player and I love seeing new players and their thoughts behind the game and rank system. And a colab with a UA-camr I love watching! You definitely earned this sub!

  • @CGingerbreadman
    @CGingerbreadman 11 місяців тому +6

    3rd partying isn’t the biggest deal when you get more used to the game. Having map sense for positioning and potential escapes plans, recognizing a third party voice line, and just generally knowing when/where 3rd parties will occur really help. For instance, when 2 of the last 3 squads are fighting, you need to fully expect the 3rd to team to join in.

    • @little_flitter
      @little_flitter 10 місяців тому

      For sure! Getting stuck in that tunnel was a rookie move, but you'd only know to move out of their ASAP if you've fought and been third partied there before. So positioning and rotating are your friends in that instance.

  • @MiniMnM
    @MiniMnM 8 місяців тому +4

    As a Lifeline main that started playing ranked 13:45 I so relate to what you’re saying. I especially hate when my teammate only chooses to turn on their mic once they’re knocked or dead to curse me out because they decided to prematurely push a team. Especially when they’re out in the open and not getting to cover yelling at me to come get them at the worst possible moment. I actually get happy when they d/c from the game cuz I’m like only person you’re punishing is yourself lmfaooo 💀

    • @badxwolf_x_5558
      @badxwolf_x_5558 5 місяців тому

      As lifeline main, I feel this 💯. I tell them I don't speak to the dead and mute/block ping. 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @armedturnip4763
    @armedturnip4763 11 місяців тому +2

    Fantastic video and breakdown of the experience of both games. Also love the Persona background music :)

  • @safyankakakhel6243
    @safyankakakhel6243 11 місяців тому +5

    As a week 1 Apex player, I really enjoyed watching this video. I appreciate anyone trying to learn this very technical game which has evolved for 4 and a half years. However, I think the current ranked system is excellent and a lot more fun than how absolutely BRUTAL it was last season and before. Now even solo queuers and people who are not FPS GODS have the chance to battle it out to say, platinum or diamond rank. Of course, the fully organized squads will still be the ones reaching Masters and Predator, but the more casual player base can also have fun grinding ranked. Nice stuff!

  • @duracell999
    @duracell999 11 місяців тому +5

    Great series SVB! I would be really curious to see you take on a fighting game (like SF 6 for example).

  • @adreannagr4375
    @adreannagr4375 10 місяців тому

    This is the first video I’ve ever seen from you,and it’s actually inspiring you got my sub keep up the good work

  • @SlipperySnake321
    @SlipperySnake321 11 місяців тому +14

    Excellent video SVB! I love this sort of thoughtful content!
    In terms of what to play next I have a few suggestions of what I like.
    1. Mechabellum- a new autobattler that is excellent! If you have played Desert Storm custom games on Starcraft 2 or other autobattlers I think you will like it and it just came out. I already have over 100 hours in a few weeks and have had more than 5 friends buy it.
    2. Heroes of the Storm ARAM- The game my friend group keeps coming back to when we aren't all playing the same game. I get it the game is dead, despite that the ARAM for this game is still active, a shitload of fun, and far superior to alternatives like League or DOTA 2.
    3. Finally you can do the popular games for which you probably don't need comments. League, DOTA, CS, Siege, Valorant, Fortnite, etc. Just go down the most watched list. I get it those will probably get more views, I still think 1 and 2 are more fun.
    Cheers!

  • @trstrong87
    @trstrong87 11 місяців тому +6

    I hear ya on the 8 team party 😂 but nothing is more satisfying then being the first team there and the last team standing !! A bunch of teams fighting at once gets pretty sweet

  • @giannicolamatteo8155
    @giannicolamatteo8155 11 місяців тому +9

    Iv allways said it, strategy makes the game better, nothing is more annoying than getting screamed at because you didnt hot drop, the guy drops in a high pop area, dies, screams a few Slurs and leaves, leaving my team at a disadvantage, also to reduce the chance of a third party when you drop, keep track where people Are landing and rotate acordingly, dont stay in one place for too long a bè vary carefull of where you are and from where some one Night rotate from

  • @somethinggoing904
    @somethinggoing904 10 місяців тому

    Love the video, lately I haven't been playing online and just started. Well started playing apex again, and I find it soooo different from when I use to play, like how life line actually has to put the bot on the revive and not drop the bot near your friend lol. It's still fun and if you find a good party or friend to play with, it can be funny too sometimes, good day and stay safe.

  • @emmanuelobodozie713
    @emmanuelobodozie713 10 місяців тому

    that thing you mentioned about the map is something i do by default i never thought to actually think of it like that lol. Someone pointing it out actually makes me remember times where i've played with people who do none of that

  • @Yoru-desu13
    @Yoru-desu13 11 місяців тому

    15:40 Tbf, both those clips were in areas where it's very dangerous to fight. Choke points like that are risky to take fights because you don't have an option to retreat back to. Depending on the situation in a different location, you might be able to retreat to a safe location from both teams, or you just have to wipe them fast, armor swap, and try to stabilize.
    Having legends that helps with either option is also great. If you have a Bangalore, you can do option A with smoke grenades and try to los both teams. Or in option B, having a Catalyst throw traps and reinforce doors could help your team stabilize. I know sometimes you can't do anything and just get wiped, but that's just the game.

  • @michaelthompson9862
    @michaelthompson9862 11 місяців тому +2

    I love these videos so much. Thanks for making them.

  • @3culturetv350
    @3culturetv350 11 місяців тому +2

    Enjoyed this video as someone who's played apex casually since day 1 also Hollie is cracked and her come up is well deserved

  • @bash619x
    @bash619x 11 місяців тому +2

    never seen any of your content but you def earned my sub
    im coming from the apex community I feel like everything you stated was said perfectly
    Respawn hasn't said anything changes to the ranked system hopefully changes do come next season and you will be back then.
    Me personally I made my solo q experience enjoyable despite KP not being applied to your LP as from match bonuses
    I didn't want to change the old habits I built playing rank up to masters in prior seasons so I still landed and contested fights off jump. Any early fights I taken I would tell myself it was just one step closer to getting to top 10. Honestly Ive had some of my best games ever this season playing aggressive. Had so many 1v3s that no fill teammates is still frustrating but way more enjoyable now, one thing i can take from this rank season is it thought how to 1v3 much better than I ever could before.
    But Ive been playing Diablo IV aswell lately just dont have anyone to game with on there so it doesnt hold my attention for over a hour

  • @SE7VENprod
    @SE7VENprod 11 місяців тому +3

    You have convinced me to pick apex up again i havent played since like season 3 and this video is a great ease into it

  • @brynkc3355
    @brynkc3355 11 місяців тому +3

    As someone who has probably over 1000 hours on each apex and overwatch, I agree with you almost completely! At the moment the only thing holding apex back for me is the ranked system, but overwatch has many deep rooted issues which make it difficult for me to play for as I could apex I think. I love them both though!

  • @marykateharmon
    @marykateharmon 11 місяців тому +1

    Fun as always. Love how you are able to rank the pros and cons of something and always seek to give what you're playing an honest go.
    For an Overwatch Hero, I suppose some I'd be curious to see you play are Soldier 76 as it seems to be rarely played but also not getting as visceral of hate (of course, I'm only getting Overwatch news from you and some other vids so I'm not the best judge). I'd also be interested in Reaper, Symmetra, Baptise, McCree/Cassidy, Mercy, Torbjorn, Reinhardt, Echo, Tracer, or Zenyatta. Honestly, I'd be happy with whichever hero you play next.

    • @marykateharmon
      @marykateharmon 11 місяців тому

      For a next game, to go in a similar vein to this, doing Team Fortress 2 would make sense as well as trying over similar games to that and Overwatch like Valorent is supposed to be.
      Outside of that, it could be fun to see you play Sid Meier's Pirates for seven days and see if you can rescue all the family members and get revenge on the Evil Count during that time. The naval combat might interest you even if the dueling can be cheesed though sometimes actually is a challenge. The biggest hurdle though is dancing with the governor's daughter.

    • @marykateharmon
      @marykateharmon 11 місяців тому

      Another idea would be to see you play Kingdom Come:Deliverance or Moon Hunters for seven days.

  • @see2remember
    @see2remember 11 місяців тому +11

    Was an apex player , and every time i played it , it felt like torture , overwatch may be in a greedy and horrible spot. But in terms of fun , overwatch beats apex in every way possible. You have to try hard every match to not only try and have a chance against 99% of the predator lobby. (Predator is like fighting a full lobby of top 500) and its always like that. And then i met overwatch 2 , i never played ow 1 but i understand the frustration on the pve and the lack of love the community and game has from the devs , but still better than apex

    • @noname-hf9ty
      @noname-hf9ty 11 місяців тому +2

      Better than Apex gameplay wise yeah, because of Blizzard's incompetency and Respawn's changes to Apex I was tempted to go back and play again, then I booted up the game and played a few matches before going "yeah I remember why I needed to leave this now"

    • @see2remember
      @see2remember 11 місяців тому +1

      @@noname-hf9ty kind of the same w me. I didnt go back to playing it cause i knew why i hate it. But i dont deny i thought of going back to apex after the scam overwatch turned out to be , i play for fun in any game. But if the company starts doing shady stuff. I stop playing all th companys games. Not only because of morals and just plane good sense , but because i dont want to defend or be a part of an evil company.
      Edit , btw kind of my opinion on the evi company

    • @MrJordan3023
      @MrJordan3023 11 місяців тому

      Apex is just as greedy. Look at how much it costs to buy a mythic skin.

    • @noname-hf9ty
      @noname-hf9ty 11 місяців тому +2

      @@MrJordan3023 yes greedy sure but they also didn't repackage the game, delete the old one with the promise of a fleshed out new mode then spend 6 months milking money out their audience only to cancel it then CONTINUE to try and milk the audience. EA's antics on Apex are frustrating at worst, Blizzard's antics are heart wrenching at worst

    • @ReaveIdono
      @ReaveIdono 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@noname-hf9ty They didn't cancel it. They just removed one aspect of it. A huge aspect but just one part. The BS of hiding it was crazy though.

  • @MsShadowfeline
    @MsShadowfeline 11 місяців тому +1

    As an Apex player thats been playing since it was released and an old OW player, I personally found that Apex is way more rewarding and fun for me I love all the strategies and characters in the game and I also like having kill / wins trackers on your banner because it gives you something to work towards unlike OW (which i haven’t played OW 2 so I don’t know if thats something they added) The feeling of achievement is so much better in Apex especially when you finally get that 2k damage badge

  • @adamgraham885
    @adamgraham885 11 місяців тому +3

    As an apex player this is a great video and very relatable if you play again I’d suggest playing wraith cause you can escape fire more easily or Gibraltar cause of his dome but I think Newcastle might work too as he has similar defence to ow and you can escape with protection

  • @omuraissu
    @omuraissu 11 місяців тому +2

    I just love seeing new people join apex. And their suffering in learning the ins and out of the game. And most importantly, not immediately quitting because of the skill ceiling.

  • @BonesTheCat
    @BonesTheCat 11 місяців тому

    Great vid. Thanks. I'm new to coming back to Apex. Good break down.

  • @vincere13
    @vincere13 11 місяців тому +1

    Apex for me is about everything but what you show cased, and to me that is where the game shines. I love dropping solo and fighting squads. It pushes me to learn quick decision making, makes the game hell of a lot more intense, and allows me to use advance movement techniques without looking like a lunatic. But that is just my opinion.

  • @CoopMoe
    @CoopMoe 11 місяців тому

    FINALLY! I've been waiting for this!

  • @magnekjeldmark6838
    @magnekjeldmark6838 8 місяців тому

    I like how you see grenades/abilities that clearly does damage and just look at them in the open while being shot at. 10/10 game sense

  • @Trowa71
    @Trowa71 10 місяців тому

    Apex has great footsteps. People rely on them so much that you can very often stand behind walls and watch enemies walk right past you. Essentially Faramir in Osgiliath

  • @Benzlisting
    @Benzlisting 11 місяців тому

    Been playing apex on and off since the end of season 6. The highest rank I had hit previously was diamond 2, but this season I’m a diamond 3 so far and I’m definitely going to hit masters before the season is over. So far having a great time

  • @ncbgaming1159
    @ncbgaming1159 11 місяців тому

    Pubs has the opposite problem of ranked, where 80% of the time you'll get hotdropped into a zone where there's already 12 other squads touched down and they've all picked up all the guns already. It's especially bad if the dropship is going over one of those POIs with a big hole in the roof (like the king's canyon portal). 90% of the time your JM will drop 10s after everyone else is already in there, get knocked immediately, and leave, before you've even picked up a gun.

  • @stuartmackenzie8622
    @stuartmackenzie8622 11 місяців тому +2

    Nice video, I have similar feelings for Apex. Played a little with friends and won some games but found the looting boring and wandered around not really knowing what was going on. There's more dopamine consistently available in Overwatch. I'm enjoying playing Street fighter 6 right now. Never really felt like I'm getting fucked over, plus it really is all on your performance.

  • @availz2580
    @availz2580 11 місяців тому +1

    Yes I agree, don’t know what respawn where thinking with the new ranked system

  • @gitmon3y91
    @gitmon3y91 10 місяців тому

    The audio and noises are superrrr satisfying to hear just like you said.

  • @kitchensnake649
    @kitchensnake649 11 місяців тому +1

    18:37 Got stunned, slept, solo shattered and anti-ed and you got the whole team telling you to swap lol

  • @skateboarder27292
    @skateboarder27292 11 місяців тому

    Best tip you’ll ever get - when you think of a play there should be more cover at the end of the thought (when available).

  • @MushMushGamer
    @MushMushGamer 11 місяців тому

    Glad to see you trying out apex. I personally love both apex and overwatch. Bear in mind that this ranked season in apex is super unbalanced. Was more fun previously when kills mattered

  • @ouwle6618
    @ouwle6618 7 місяців тому

    Elimination rating points in ranked scale in value depending on your position in the match (if they have updated this please let me know if i'm wrong). Basically if a kill in the bottom placement might be worth 10 point, but if you get top 3 each kill might be worth 50 and first place i think each kill is a 100 points? So yes, position closer to first place is absolutely the most important overall. But kills is necessary in higher ranks when the entry fee is higher. Otherwise you can get 5th place and almost gain no points if you don't have any kills. It's a rating system that is very grindy.
    EDIT: Also skill rating points is a mystery value, but it says it's based on your performance relative to your rank and the ranks of enemies you defeat. It also rewards stuff like 1v2/1v3 and generall skillfull plays.
    The rat problem really proved to me how important scanner legends are. I started playing double scanners this season (Bloodhound + Seer/Crypto) and a Fuse on that and we haven't had a rat problem since. Or atleast we don't get jumped from nowhere since we see them through walls lol. This makes me remember the bunker strategy i used to run with two friends. Caustic + Wattson + Rampart and bunkering down in a house in end circle is OP. It's even stronger now with Catalyst i think.
    I solo'ed to diamond in season 8 and 12. I loved those seasons, but i think they where one of the easier ones? Don't remember how ranked worked exactly back then but i know it felt more like a "if i play enough i will get there" type of meta. I was just playing Fuse all the time being an annoying twat with grenades and sniper from far away. Got kills i didn't deserve all the time, and in end circles i made the other teams kill each other so i got higher placement. Didn't care about my kills getting "stolen" if the team wiped and i go +1 position. I also learned those seasons to view team mates who didn't communicate as meat shields or chess pieces for me to move around and play around. It wasn't until high plat and finally diamond where i had team mates i was confident enough in to listen to everything they say.

  • @djblade3688
    @djblade3688 11 місяців тому

    15:55 the apex experience. “Third party, nice they’re dead- hold up 4th party. 5th party- the whole FREAKING LOBBY.

  • @marihacrimson9692
    @marihacrimson9692 11 місяців тому +1

    One aspect that I like about Apex (I mainly play Overwatch) is how they are more open about their LGBTQ+ representation. Catalyst literally talks about her transition in her trailer and she is not some awful stereotype that other games use. Also her voice actress is Trans so that's pretty cool :3

  • @yigitdnr7260
    @yigitdnr7260 11 місяців тому +1

    as an overwatch player since 2017, i also swapped to apex few months ago i do think its a better game overall. i was able to play ranked in season 16 where you got rewared for kills more than posistion and it was amazing. however it makes sense in my head to trying to win the game rather than killing people, in practice it sucks. Pro players and e sports team just plays like that, they take posistion, tries not to get caught of guard while playing for the ring, and tries to survive and get the win in the top 5 chaos. i started to like royal rumble type of thing once you get in top 5 and you can feel a win is there for u to grab.

  • @miloquirke7863
    @miloquirke7863 11 місяців тому +3

    Literally had the same experience trying Apex this last week. Mostly fun experience but doesn’t beat overwatch imo. Loving these vids and looking forward to the diablo vid as I am also playing and loving that game atm.

  • @Soren_Hayes
    @Soren_Hayes 11 місяців тому +1

    At 17:55 I feel like they wouldn’t have noticed you if you didn’t shoot first lol. also just a little tip, the Eva 8 is better used for after you crack someone with a different gun. Opening a fight with it almost always ends badly

  • @robertoanaya2600
    @robertoanaya2600 11 місяців тому

    I used to love Overwatch 1 since launch, hit GM around season 20ish and then I stopped having fun and the game was too heavy on my team. So I switched to apex and haven't looked back lol

  • @kylerenglish5698
    @kylerenglish5698 10 місяців тому

    I can't believe they never made a game of the book/movie Hunger Games which is literally about a battle royale.
    There's so much you could do with it:
    You could have a game with typical BR gameplay
    You could have longer matches with BR and survival/crafting and hunting aspects
    You could have a narrative/campaign game
    You could have a top down arena management game like Civilization
    You could have an open world game

  • @srikrishnabhat6793
    @srikrishnabhat6793 11 місяців тому

    Your description of Third-Partying reminds me of that Finding Nemo Seagull meme with every party going "Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine!" XD

  • @eLu2198
    @eLu2198 7 місяців тому

    I am an apex player since season 1, and i can definitely say this with certainty: The more you get better, the better becomes the experience of the game. When you get good enough, you will be able to fight off 3rd parties or even win them. The only downside to this is that you have to invest a lot of hours in the game. But the rush you get after dominating the 2nd or/and 3rd party, priceless.

  • @mr.person1219
    @mr.person1219 5 місяців тому +1

    The thing about apex is that you have to assume everyone is good and not bots. Sometimes you have bad aim or movement that day and the other guy is on his A game. Better to play smarter than harder and that's what I love about Apex. It's a BR, but it's mostly all strategy.

  • @StickyTip103
    @StickyTip103 9 місяців тому

    Apex player here, i love this video and feel the same about Overwatch as you do about Apex. it's a fun game, and i actually did play it before Overwach 2 but still it just wasn't my thing. it's something i could play casually but that's it

  • @adamk1
    @adamk1 11 місяців тому

    I did that too Apex looks so cool I didn't play Overwatch 2 a week ago and I don't think I'll go back to it again 😢❤

  • @VOID-GRIMM_Sinn
    @VOID-GRIMM_Sinn 11 місяців тому +2

    Tip for new players. Go into the firing range and look at what the legends do. It helps to go against them in fights

  • @flowstatepump
    @flowstatepump 11 місяців тому +1

    The kills gain over the whole match and you get more for the kills you have the higher you place- so fight whenever in the game you see a good fight and don’t worry about the -35 if you kill them it helps the lobby die faster(you definitely should have done this video a different season tho this season isn’t a good starter point)

  • @patnig8031
    @patnig8031 11 місяців тому

    when the new rank system came up i really find it boring, but i found a formula to have fun and gain points, so i ended up IGLing to fight when its necessary until 10 squads, then find fights at 10 squad left, and go all in when there's 6 squad left\

  • @Monster_Misato
    @Monster_Misato 11 місяців тому

    Keep up with the constant content! 👍

  • @punkdoggo211
    @punkdoggo211 11 місяців тому +5

    "Queen is insane. Mad Maggie is just mad."
    My guy Mad Maggie is both insane AND mad 😂

    • @GirusBetterThanVirus
      @GirusBetterThanVirus 11 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, if SVB saw mad maggie's cinematic (assuming he hasn't seen it) he would know the Mad maggie is 2 tiers of insane about junker queen.

  • @hammerth1421
    @hammerth1421 11 місяців тому +3

    The ranked system change is really weird because the original system did a decent job, as far as I'm aware.

    • @samlikeshams
      @samlikeshams 11 місяців тому +2

      yeah but the one thing I hated old system was the matchmaking because I kept on getting bronzes as a high gold

    • @hammerth1421
      @hammerth1421 11 місяців тому +1

      @@samlikeshams Okay, matchmaking and ranking systems are completely different things. At their core, all ranking systems in multiplayer games are chess elo with a twist. Making fair matches to feed the ranking system with is much more difficult. It usually takes a lot of graph theory (scary sub-field of math) to get a result that doesn't totally suck.

    • @samlikeshams
      @samlikeshams 11 місяців тому

      @@hammerth1421 oh

  • @normieg
    @normieg 11 місяців тому +1

    To avoid 3rd parties, you always need to make sure you have a plan B escape route in case things go wrong. If the fight takes too long or you sense you're gonna get thirded soon, just apply that plan B and reset. Then, you can come back and be the 3rd party. That's the way most good players play 😅

  • @Senorgato029
    @Senorgato029 11 місяців тому

    Apex always felt off to me but I recently made some settings changes and I’ve been having the most fun in a long time, I think everything you said about your experience is 100% correct and valid, Diablo goes kinda hard ngl, been having a great time there, im still gonna say what no one else has the balls to, fortnite zero build is the most easy to get into br out right now, it’s just u and your weapons, sure there getting a little fancy with new items but it doesn’t hit nearly the levels of what is going on on my screen as a lot of others

  • @ignition1335
    @ignition1335 11 місяців тому

    Apex player here 5k hour andy biggest problem with the ranked system is like overwatch (which i also do play) is that you can go 49/51 and still gain you dont lose that much points so there are actually a lot of scenarios where its genuinely just worth dying to get into a new game rather than playing and finishing the current lobby that you are in for example if your squad died or whatever kills not mattering as much isn't that big of a problem because the entire idea is that those people you passed by is going to become a problem later in the endgame which is where in theory majority of the players should die but it rarely gets to that point because the lobbies are so mixed and there are just high rank players just running it down since there is no penalty for not doing that (edit oh and the magical bonus are your kill points being added)

  • @larrytheblobfish.p2507
    @larrytheblobfish.p2507 9 місяців тому

    15:13 its actualy gotten way better, at least in the lobbies im playing in, i used to get constantly like 6th partied, i don't think i've been 6th partied for like at least 2 weeks now

  • @bubbaf100
    @bubbaf100 11 місяців тому

    Nice video. The places you kept getting 3rd partied at are notorious for that. The areas are to open and kind close to center of the map. Most of the times I choose not to take fights there unless I have to.

  • @gmanz5
    @gmanz5 11 місяців тому

    My favthing about the 7 day series. Is the build up to the all star legendary guest

  • @NoahClemmer-md2pj
    @NoahClemmer-md2pj 11 місяців тому

    The "unexplained" boost in LP you get after a rank game is the kill boost.

  • @mintmango0
    @mintmango0 7 місяців тому

    As an on and off addict of both games I literally couldn’t say which I prefer as I have more nostalgia for overwatch but more time played on apex haha

    • @sonia6761
      @sonia6761 3 місяці тому

      Haha it’s the opposite for me. I have more hours on overwatch but when I play apex, i can’t help but remember all the good times with friends 🥲 both games definitely have their ups and downs

  • @rxmy6690
    @rxmy6690 10 місяців тому

    Nice video but just thought I'd add that kills do actually matter in ranked. You get bonuses at the end that can add on lots of points

  • @zeelexx4677
    @zeelexx4677 9 місяців тому

    One time I took a fight in Market on King’s Canyon and literally HALF the lobby came running in after each fight!! I managed to leave with 10 kills and my squad still with me😮‍💨

  • @aerostrafe1075
    @aerostrafe1075 11 місяців тому

    I still wonder if just lowering how far gun sounds travel can help fix the 3rd party issue. I swear i've been in say Docks at Olympus and hear gunfire in Turbine or Oasis for no reason.

  • @GH0st_C0RP
    @GH0st_C0RP 5 місяців тому +1

    To avoid the bad side of apex i would recommend playing ranked arena as i is much more fun as you get to enjoy the good qualitites of apex without the negatives such as third partying.

  • @thefootballpunnedit
    @thefootballpunnedit 11 місяців тому +3

    The camping and looting of battle royals just kills the genre for me. There's not a single battle royal that I haven't just wanted to pull my hair out at the amount of campers and waiting for action.

    • @qwertyg3666
      @qwertyg3666 11 місяців тому

      Camping in apex is kind of a new thing and is a symptom of how the games rank system is currently situated. Looting is obviously a given in a br but apex' loot system is out and away better designed and cleaner than any of the other brs I've played making it much less relevant to the core gameplay than it tends to be in games like pubg or warzone.

    • @vFrosty2K
      @vFrosty2K 11 місяців тому

      Kill them then just be blood hound

    • @lukaslilley9917
      @lukaslilley9917 11 місяців тому

      There aren’t as many campers in apex, just use a character like crypto, mad Maggie or fuse

  • @NSeaBear
    @NSeaBear 11 місяців тому +9

    arenas is fun, but the ranked system is atrocious

    • @shungite8240
      @shungite8240 11 місяців тому +1

      They got rid of Arenas actually

    • @biffii5568
      @biffii5568 11 місяців тому

      Every comp games r system is thrash

  • @verbatos9498
    @verbatos9498 11 місяців тому +2

    It’d be fun to see you tackle a game thats very different to what you’d be used to, like VALORANT
    Edit: it also has the single best dev team out of all the major games. It feels like they care and listen to the players and really frequently edit maps and other elements that other teams just dont.

  • @frogwizard9310
    @frogwizard9310 11 місяців тому +2

    Definatley do kiriko as ur next 7 day journey, id love to see

  • @rCrypto_Frog4148
    @rCrypto_Frog4148 11 місяців тому

    I played OW for years before I tried Apex and ultimately I switched over to Apex simply because I was having much more fun playing. OW is really frustrating because it's more team dependent. In Apex u can actually carry and when I lose it's more or less my own fault rather than "healer was trolling" or whatever

  • @morbid1.
    @morbid1. 11 місяців тому +1

    Apex is like a modern version of shooters we used to play in lan cafe...

  • @hifostar
    @hifostar 10 місяців тому

    I have always said about BR ranked systems. Until you hit masters or even diamond, prioritize fights and elims with the greatest rewards still placing top. Then when you get to diamond/masters reduce the reward for getting kills as then the "real" game should begin where everyone is a killer and the separation between the top and next tier is brain, i.e. placements.

  • @tinsimatovic1486
    @tinsimatovic1486 11 місяців тому

    1:25 truly a movement moment right there

  • @domb.1522
    @domb.1522 11 місяців тому

    I can’t speak for NA servers but in asian servers (like Tokyo) i don’t know it feels like playing ALGS to some degree. At the start of Ranked match around 3 or 5 squads will die, then everyone waits, sets up defense in a certain area, than go all out when there are only 10 squads left.

  • @lilbongchainz2870
    @lilbongchainz2870 11 місяців тому +2

    @svb please give street fighter 6 a try for a week. I think you would enjoy the competitive nature that you find in fps games while not having to put up with random team mates etc

  • @jarail
    @jarail 11 місяців тому

    I think I'm perma stuck on day 1. Great video on how I should approach apex and what to expect if I do want to learn it!

    • @doriandiamandis2263
      @doriandiamandis2263 11 місяців тому

      There's tons of guides to follow it becomes fun after you start to master the mechanics

    • @dankburrito8345
      @dankburrito8345 11 місяців тому +1

      You should expect dumb randoms who don't play as a team and leave the game early after dying after running off halfway across the map by themselves, 3rd 4th and 5th parties.

  • @JunioRhcp64
    @JunioRhcp64 11 місяців тому

    As someone who plays both but mainly apex I agree the ranked system is really rough. It’s always been tough solo queueing but it’s worse than ever now. Third partying and rats are the worst they’ve ever been. I don’t like the ratting but it’s necessary to make it to high ranks. My highest rank previously was platinum 3. Currently diamond 3 and aiming for masters by next month 😂

  • @Cold_Cypher
    @Cold_Cypher 2 місяці тому +2

    APEX said nah jumping on zip lines is gay now

  • @cerculain1722
    @cerculain1722 11 місяців тому

    I only started playing Apex last season and I’m a GM overwtach player and the skill sets are so different good lord

  • @Cyber_playz9
    @Cyber_playz9 11 місяців тому

    Hey you might not reply but I’m a new genji player would you be able to tell me how to get around the hurdle of a bad dragon blade

  • @zage932
    @zage932 11 місяців тому +6

    Both games are equally frustrating, but do have a lot of memories carried with them.

  • @calmguru1274
    @calmguru1274 11 місяців тому +1

    Hey SVB, i saw karq played street fighter for a little bit. Maybe do a video on that considering its pretty competitive

  • @Jnaathra
    @Jnaathra 7 місяців тому

    In Overwatch I am judged by my aim and my character's special abilities define them. In Apex I am judged by my ability to control recoil and my character's special abilities are mostly an after thought.

  • @loppyhero7196
    @loppyhero7196 11 місяців тому

    Lmao its so funny seeing new or casual players come into Apex and see all the crazy movement. When you got tap strafed on mid air, I was thinking, "First time?. That's not even the worst, a lot of movement players can push you and tap strafe right into you, and break your ankles, while one clipping u as you're still tryna figure out where they are 😂

  • @tyrezallen958
    @tyrezallen958 11 місяців тому +2

    Dk if Holly mentioned this, but you should avoid fighting in chokes and open areas, that helps with 3rd parties