Just what I would expect from the man with the same algorithm as the boss. Honestly I loved all the edits you put on this. I instantly subbed but I love all the cut scene skips and boss battle scene flashes.
He has insanely good editing, the cust with the elevator are seamless. The whole video is a rare combination of being thorough and effiicent at the same time
I think the only issue with no radar in these old games is the fixed camera. When we get to MGS3 Subsistence and onward, you'll notice the radar isn't necessary, and that's solely due to the third person camera. Great content, my man, I'm gonna check out more.
@@scottypittman1 sorry, that probably didn't come out great, it's still a pain in the ass in MGS3 snake eater. But just far less so than MGS1, which is SUPER close. Subsistence cam is definitely the way I play except for some very specific areas where snake eater cam is better (usually on stairs)
@Sir Rando yeah, I see what you're saying. I grew up on MGS2 and God of War, so I'm used to wide sweeping camera angles or a radar system. Luckily, I started off playing Subsistence and not Snake Eater, so my first impressions of that game didn't really involve camera issues. I will agree that the camera in the first couple of games is very closed in, but that almost feels intentional in a design choice kind of way.
Cornell Campbell: "You need to plug the controller on the port 2, this is the only way to defeat Psycho Mantis" Ragged/Masked bust statue: "Am i joke to you?" For those who didn't get it, the game is so well made that Kojima made a safe guard for this battle in case switching controllers is not possible or available, dying in combat and calling Campbell he will suggest you that destroying the leather wraps on the busts will make Mantis anger and lose concentration for mind reading
@@sirrando Wait, so that's how child me got past that? I just randomly got the call with her after running around in the hangar, confused on what I was supposed to do with the MO disk. "What do you mean, back of the disk?" It was only a few years later during my teen years when I realized that the box of the actual game was meant, not the MO disk. How did I find that out? Randomly looking at the back, seeing the codec call with Meryl in one of the picture boxes... I felt so dumb, it was hilarious.
There are so many little things like that in the game that make me giggle. Like how Campbell lets you know you are going to struggle against the hind with a mono TV
I was curious as to how you would get past the first Sniper Wolf fight without a gun, and you didn't disappoint. Didn't even know about that glitch. You're pretty good.
@@sirrando Sniper Wolf 2 is more fun to complete with the Nikita missile tbh. MGS1 is a yearly playthrough for me, but the sniping segments are just awful. Imo it's something MGS doesn't do well until the 3rd entry.
You can make mantis even easier by seeing him while he's invisible with the thermal goggles. I didn't know for years, and I don't know why I didn't try, seeing as you can see through grey fox's stealth camo with the thermal goggles as well.
@@sirrando I don't think it changes, if you grab the first truck socom, I believe you can get them from the lv 5 door that's opened when you first enter the hanger. My saves got wiped a while ago, so I can't actually check with extreme locked.
I know, it's ridiculous isn't it, thank god for speedrunners keeping this challenge alive. When I initially started I assumed ocelot would be impossible, it was so exciting when I found the Grenade strat
@@Gaz66d Correct. It is possible to blow up Baker with explosives. But grenades thrown as shown or C4 placed on the wall will not. C4 placed on the floor will, as will claymores iirc
@@thematt6705 idk if I ever got claymores before ocelot (I imagine you can only with game shark) one time I used GameShark to get Cardboard box C to skip from the Heliport to the Snowfield and thought I was on a winner until I was halted by trying to take down Raven without anything but a few grenades and the Socom pistol. And after some backtracking and scrounging up supplies I got past Raven (not easy) my lifebar and ammo count SPRUNG up. Thank god. But then I got to metal gear and realized I didn’t have the PAL key and I was like, well I’ve fooked myself now. And abandoned my game- probably because I had spent so many frustrating hours just getting past Raven.
This is one my favorite games of all time. Even after all these years, I’m still learning some of the secrets and tips and such buried in this game. Kojima is a genius and you sir put together a great run. Thank you.
I instantly skipped to the comms tower in hopes you opted to use the Stun Grenade strat. I was not disappointed. I learned this from an unofficial strategy guide I found on the magazine rack of a retailer in 1998. It was loaded with curse words and funny tangents, a great read for a 9 year old kid 😂
It was really fun! Learning some new strategies was super cool. And it I did it again I could have reduced the final rime by A LOT. It should also be possible to do a foxhound version aswell
Its not Meryl who's useless. I mean, Mantis, the one who can control minds and use psychokinetic attacks and go invisible just decides to spin a few office chairs and paintings in the air and scream "I CAN'T READ YOU" and "WHHYYYY?" 😂
Explosives/ballistics do not equal bullets/gunfire. In nearly every case the two categories are split. This was AWESOME to watch. Never would have thought about using grenades on ocelot, never knew about the psg1 glitch, there were some real creative solutions to do things without skips. I do think the door skip people mentioned in the comm tower was fair game as it skips no major content but this was a challenge run and not a Speedrun so tbh it's no different either way lol. In any case, fantastic work.
The real reason why I didnt use boba skip is because I am an idiot, I thought it would skip the hind fight, I was mistaken lol, I got the comms towers mixed up
Great video! I love seeing unusual strategies in MGS, and punching Sniper Wolf is pretty high up there. I'm so sorry you had to backtrack to find more Nikita's for Wolf 2, because it's also possible to shoot her with the Stinger. Actually a pretty good strat for scouting her when using the PSG1 too. I'm excited to see what else you do on this channel
So I guess the answer is "no" due to the nikita, and especially not glitchless. I immediately jumped to the Wolf fights because I had no idea how they'd be handled without a gun. Didn't know about the strafe glitch, that's pretty cool. As for the 2nd time, I didn't know about that nikita trick either, but that definitely makes the battle easier even if you're not trying to minimize gun usage. And I'm guessing you still used the Stinger for Liquid.. But still, the fact that you only need guns for a few really specific instances really speaks volumes about the game and how well it was made, tbh. I def. can't beat the game in under 2 hours, it takes me much longer, haha. I'll have to sit down and watch this in full at some point. Good content, thanks!
Thanks! I didn't class either the Nikita or the stinger as a "Gun" for this run. So for my rules they weren't the soul destroying realisation that other things were... But thanks for dropping by I am glad you have enjoyed it
@@sirrando yeah if you only used the Nikita for the electrical transformer I would accept it but using it to kill the guards is a different matter ... personally gonna count this as a fail, Stinger and Nikita still fire projectiles, explosive or not that still counts as too close to a gun for me
Good work, matey! Love seeing challenges in this game! My God, I never knew that about the difference of the pal key location! I had no idea it was tied to how many alerts you had triggered. I'm still finding out things about this game!
Yeah, the amount of little things in the game (Well series really) is wild. So many little pieces of care and attention. I will be returning to some of the other games, I have already covered MGS2, MGS3 will be in the pipeline after my next video I think. Past that, I am not sure what I could do within the series. 4 is rather tricky for me to play. and 5... well, its a big boy
My clearest memory of MGS was borrowing it from a school friend but he misplaced to case so I got it in a different one but when you have to call Meryl, I had no hint and had to scan all the codec frequencies to find hers. Ahh fond memories.
ive watched almost all the videos on your channel and it has quickly became one of my favorites because its so entertaining and seeing these challenges done so well with barely any cuts is truly what ive been waitin for on yt. thanks and keep up the amazing work brah!!!
I must say I really enjoyed that calm voice over in this video. It gave it a unique style I didn't find in other videos with the same topic (challenge runs).
That challenge was so cool . It was like experiencing the game for the first time again tho the sad thing is the game doesn't let you fully complete it without guns
@@alial-king9998 I have something a little different in mind for MGS3. I won't be doing it immediately, but it's a challenge I have never done seen before
I think Johnny noticed it was ketchup in the cell because you used it after he had already partly entered the room, if it had been as he was still in the other room, it still would have worked? I think so anyway. Subscribed :)
I thought that might be the case. But I was spamming to put down the ketchup and just got the "no use" sound. Maybe In extreme I needed to wait for him to fall asleep and then use it, that might work. We need some MGS mythbusters lol
This was a great video to watch! Your voice is very soothing and great for narrating (and helping me sleep lol), and the level of video editing seriously made me think that you had way over 10k subs. Will definitely look forward to any more challenge runs you make in the future similar to this one 😁
My mind is freaking blown at using grenades against Ocelot, for some reason I just assumed grenades wouldn't be allowed because of the explosives around Baker. 1:43:05 Already knew you saved Meryl when you had the bomb in your backpack :)
Won’t lie, it looks like thermal goggles would have made the mantis fight easier to be honest. Which I do think there is at least two times you can pick them up, but the second time I think is after the mantis fight because if I remember, the door to them is a level 5 door, but the door is only open before you save the DARPA Chief. Which I think it is saving the DARPA Chief and not taking the elevator(based off memory), because after that you can’t get them until you get the level 5 card.
However, I didn’t know this until now, but you have to pick up the SOCOM first otherwise the thermal goggles are replaced by the SOCOM in that room. Picking up the SOCOM while you can avoid it, remember the rule says to not shoot. Doesn’t say you cannot pick up the weapon. However, unless I guess you liked the extra challenge to the Mantis fight then I guess the goggles are irrelevant.
57:24 you can avoid that section all together by doing what's called a Boba Skip where you get a guard push you through the frozen door that's on the staircase
I forgot that it was just the later games that incentivized you not to kill anyone! This game does its best to leave you no choice, although it does make sense narratively with Liquid speech berating Solid about enjoying all the killing and being filled with the joy of battle.
The trick to the repelling part is to aim your jumps where ever the steam isn't at. You can also wait for it to stop, the Hind is fairly easy to dodge if you wait until you first hear the gun start to fire.
I played this game back when I was 15. I’ve never use the Nikita on Sniper wolf before. It’s never even crossed my mind. I also didn’t know that there was body armor in this game. At least I don’t remember there being body armor.
The body armour is in a completely optional area that you don't need to visit. And the nikita strat is something I have always done. But I always finish her off with the PSG1 so the cutscene makes sense 😅
I think that's the case. But I was trying well before he was there and just getting the "no use" sound effect. You are probably right though, should have been much earlier
Super cool run. I totally forgot about that weapons glitch. I also forgot how sluggish the PAL version of this game is. I could never play this game in slow motion like that lmao.
Love the video man mgs 1 is super fun to watch and some more mgs content maybe the same challenge on the other games in the series would be super awesome
I do have a similar video on MGS2, and a tenchu run aswell. I am looking to do challenges outside of only MGS, but I will be doing MGS3 in a couple of videos time! Glad you enjoyed it!
if you use a cardboard box in the ninja fight he'll use nothing but the stomp attack on you, no matter what stage the fight is at (except for when his health reaches 0) , so hide in the box, he'll go for the stomp, unequip the box and move to the side, then hit him, repeat until his health goes to 0
@@sirrando when I commented I only watched up to entering the tank hanger. Only sounds were water dripping and wind up to that point. (Not counting player sounds like footsteps)
@@JoshWiniberg Honestly, the older videos (like this one) feels so long ago, and so far below what I am trying to make now its mental. but glad you are enjoying my little corner of the internet!
@@sirrando haha give it more time and you'll probably look back and appreciate how good they are. I'm a musician and my favourite thing is always whatever I'm working on right now so it surprises me sometimes when people say their favourite piece of mine is something I wrote when I was 16, which is 20 years ago. I always thought that stuff was unrefined and basically rubbish, but with enough distance from it you can begin to appreciate (and even learn something from) your early work.
@@JoshWiniberg as a fellow musician, i get that. its more being a case of seeing how much has been learned in the space of time. Its not bad to look back, its just a trip as you can see how you would do it differently now
So many of those nades in the tank fight were so close to going in the hatch. Landing one of those would have saved you so much time, health and ammo. Also it made my soul sad you called Rex Ray lol
You used the ketchup too late. He has to be in the other room. Happened to me too. Without triggering alert, put your back to the door, move forward to go prone and then crawl backwards clipping through the door until the strap on snakes leg is nearly touching the door. Activate the American tomato bottle condiment before johnny enters the cell hall, wait for him to open the door, you will already be in range for strangulation, get up as soon as you see the question mark to immediately grab him. Drag him to the torture device without killing him if you want him to save the world in MGS4 and Bob's your step uncle Grandpa.
I was spamming to use the ketchup, I think i might have actually been far too early, and just needed to go through another round of torture. But yes, your set up is infact the best one
Honestly, w know sniper wolf 2 can be done with nikita, I'm a huga advocate of staying true to a challenge but in the interest of time I would have allowed you to use the sniper for the last shot or 2 instead of going all the way back to mantis tbh. The ammo is 100% there, the nikita start works so yeah, why not.
Loving your video so far. Would love to play this again, if i find the time. Love this franchise. Happy its coming bad, sad kojima isnt involved. Happy konami pulled their head out their rear end. Mixed feeling about the MGS3 remake. My favorite of the series, no doubt. If they want to do a whole series of remakes, starting in order of timeline, then ill accept, but most most most deserving of a remake are the original Metal Gear games before Solid. Retell those two stories with modern technology, that would be great. Im sure most MGS fans missed out on the original games, those need attention
I'm the same. I have mixed feelings aboutbthe remake. But I am hy9e for the master collection. It will be good to have mgs1,2 and 3 on modern consoles and steam.
58:10 I'm sure if you time it right you can avoid those guards bullets by dashing to the left and right then dropping a timed stun grenade as you approach them to knock them all down and get past to the door you need. They'll disappear when you go through the door still
@@sirrando Check some speedruns from a couple years ago fella, before they discovered a skip last year to literally avoid doing this part they used to either snipe them fast or sprint at them if sniping isn't their thing (I'm sure you'll agree sniping on MGS1 is a pain)
I think i just realized something new about the mantis battle. Is his stereo audio flipped to screw with your mind? Like around 36:45 when he goes invisible i hear the laughing from the wrong side.
Very well noticed. But no, its actually my fault, I flipped left and right accidentally in my recording setup and didn't notice untill much later as I was playing on a TV
I've done this run. Sniper Wolf 1 and the ending tunnel sequence are the only parts of the game where you HAVE to shoot. Everything else can be solved with C4, grenades, claymores, nikita, or the stinger.
14:00 If this can help : You can throw another grenade not too long after killing the first soldier. If you time it right, it will explode right after the cut scene where the 2nd soldier takes over.
Man that Mantis fight on extreme is gruelling! Considering the amount of dodging and concentration you have to focus on compared to all the other boss fights I can t believe how many hits it takes to defeat him. This boss fight and the rays on mgs2 are the reasons I've never been able to complete either game on extreme
The mantis fight was very similar to the rays fight. Both were a test of concentration over anything else. Admittedly, punching mantis isn't the best strategy in a normal extreme run, he is usually quite quick
@@TAKESHIRONORIMITSU I remember them being abit easier on ps2 than on the HD collection. However I was only around 10 when MGS2 came out so wasn't interested in playing it on extreme. Easy mode was my childhood
It was much easier on HD collection than original. The porting team looked at how hard it was, laughed and made it much easier. It was harder to the point a bunch of people won't speedrun the original release on EE just because of the solidus choking section, it was maddeningly difficult. I used the spoon method to do it back in the day
Yeah, PAL games are a pain to capture aswell, capture cards tend not to like the weird 575 lines resolution malarkey that happens. I'm just glad that MGS2 HD is in proper 60fps
I want to preface my comments by saying you did an amazing job... way better at this game than I was lol... and I played the crap out of this back in the late 90s when it was new... and I didn't know about quite of few of the exploits you used... so kudos Is that pre boss fight screen your creation . in my opinion it really is a bit jarring and takes the player out of the moment of the game Also, I thought on extreme getting an alert was an automatic game over... its why without the radar I never made it very far on extreme.. (beat it on hard a bunch of times ..but never extreme )
Thanks! And to answer your questions. Yes I did make those boss fight transitions. Euro Extreme was a automatic game over if you set it to be so from mgs2 onwards. That isn't an option in mgs1. Initially it feels like it though with how squishy he is on that difficulty
This game will never stop amazing me!!! It's 25 years, and I don't know about gun glitch and that there are more walls next to elevator to blow in B2 basement!!! I'm 37 and I have played it hundred of times and didn't notice it!!! 😮😮😮😮
Unless it's different in Extreme Mode, you could've gotten the Body Armor earlier. B2 Nuclear Warhead Storage by the Cameras, in in the Level 6 Room. @ 1:21:21
13:35 I read somewhere that the blast radius of the grenades is lower on Extreme so maybe that's the reason it's more difficult to do damage to the gunner.
Honestly i tried beating MGS5 with no reflex mode, no markers, No detections and and no kills (obviously not including forced encounters for no detection) @@sirrando
Looks like you've remembered the basics of CQC
Thanks Boss
Just what I would expect from the man with the same algorithm as the boss. Honestly I loved all the edits you put on this. I instantly subbed but I love all the cut scene skips and boss battle scene flashes.
Thanks matey! I'm glad you liked the boss battle flashes, I remade the boss rush screens from MGS2 and thought they looked neat
He has insanely good editing, the cust with the elevator are seamless. The whole video is a rare combination of being thorough and effiicent at the same time
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I think the only issue with no radar in these old games is the fixed camera. When we get to MGS3 Subsistence and onward, you'll notice the radar isn't necessary, and that's solely due to the third person camera. Great content, my man, I'm gonna check out more.
Even in base snake eater it's manageable. It's just how close and claustrophobic it is in MGS1, I imagine mgs2 is easier in that regard aswell
@Sir Rando Well, I personally struggled with the fixed camera in Snake Eater, but if it worked for you, then that's cool too, my man.
@@scottypittman1 sorry, that probably didn't come out great, it's still a pain in the ass in MGS3 snake eater. But just far less so than MGS1, which is SUPER close.
Subsistence cam is definitely the way I play except for some very specific areas where snake eater cam is better (usually on stairs)
@Sir Rando yeah, I see what you're saying. I grew up on MGS2 and God of War, so I'm used to wide sweeping camera angles or a radar system. Luckily, I started off playing Subsistence and not Snake Eater, so my first impressions of that game didn't really involve camera issues. I will agree that the camera in the first couple of games is very closed in, but that almost feels intentional in a design choice kind of way.
I miss the radar. It was part of what made a metal gear game imo
Cornell Campbell: "You need to plug the controller on the port 2, this is the only way to defeat Psycho Mantis"
Ragged/Masked bust statue: "Am i joke to you?"
For those who didn't get it, the game is so well made that Kojima made a safe guard for this battle in case switching controllers is not possible or available, dying in combat and calling Campbell he will suggest you that destroying the leather wraps on the busts will make Mantis anger and lose concentration for mind reading
Yes! I always liked that. also how if you call him 5 times after ocelot he will just put meryls codec number in for you
@@sirrando Oh! So you also know that safe guard too! You must be an MGS enjoyer 👌
@@sirrando Wait, so that's how child me got past that? I just randomly got the call with her after running around in the hangar, confused on what I was supposed to do with the MO disk.
"What do you mean, back of the disk?"
It was only a few years later during my teen years when I realized that the box of the actual game was meant, not the MO disk.
How did I find that out? Randomly looking at the back, seeing the codec call with Meryl in one of the picture boxes... I felt so dumb, it was hilarious.
There are so many little things like that in the game that make me giggle.
Like how Campbell lets you know you are going to struggle against the hind with a mono TV
@@tobiredfield345 life long MGS fan. Probably my favorite franchise
European Extreme: no radar
British Extreme: no guns, need a TV licence.
you got a loicense for that video game!?
Blimey!
I was curious as to how you would get past the first Sniper Wolf fight without a gun, and you didn't disappoint. Didn't even know about that glitch.
You're pretty good.
You can do the same thing for sniper wolf 2, bit it skips the whole fight, and I didn't want to skip things like that
@@sirrando Sniper Wolf 2 is more fun to complete with the Nikita missile tbh. MGS1 is a yearly playthrough for me, but the sniping segments are just awful. Imo it's something MGS doesn't do well until the 3rd entry.
@@Cyberpit2000 I agree with that. Trying to do the VR mission s in mgs2.... protecting the curry and meryl... nightmares
@@Cyberpit2000 sniper wolf's two boss fights are my favorites in mgs1
@@Cyberpit2000 average cod kid thinks mgs3 is good because third person camera lolllll
You can make mantis even easier by seeing him while he's invisible with the thermal goggles. I didn't know for years, and I don't know why I didn't try, seeing as you can see through grey fox's stealth camo with the thermal goggles as well.
I knew that... however I didn't know where the thermal goggles were on extreme so I skipped them lol
@@sirrando I don't think it changes, if you grab the first truck socom, I believe you can get them from the lv 5 door that's opened when you first enter the hanger. My saves got wiped a while ago, so I can't actually check with extreme locked.
@@suprtroopr1028 ahhhhh that makes sense. Also avoiding the famas threw me off a of times too, I didn't think of that, good spot!
@@sirrando fair. I did just check an extreme playthrough walk through, and yeah. That second socom spot is still thermal goggles on extreme.
I'm shocked you can use explosives in the Ocelot fight. I was certain that any explosives caused Baker to explode.
I know, it's ridiculous isn't it, thank god for speedrunners keeping this challenge alive. When I initially started I assumed ocelot would be impossible, it was so exciting when I found the Grenade strat
I swear I’ve blown up the c4 by accident with one of the explosives… maybe it’s all about where you throw ? Am I was just unlucky
@@Gaz66d Correct. It is possible to blow up Baker with explosives. But grenades thrown as shown or C4 placed on the wall will not. C4 placed on the floor will, as will claymores iirc
@@thematt6705 idk if I ever got claymores before ocelot (I imagine you can only with game shark) one time I used GameShark to get Cardboard box C to skip from the Heliport to the Snowfield and thought I was on a winner until I was halted by trying to take down Raven without anything but a few grenades and the Socom pistol.
And after some backtracking and scrounging up supplies I got past Raven (not easy) my lifebar and ammo count SPRUNG up. Thank god.
But then I got to metal gear and realized I didn’t have the PAL key and I was like, well I’ve fooked myself now.
And abandoned my game- probably because I had spent so many frustrating hours just getting past Raven.
@@Gaz66d I may be misremembering. It has been a while. I want to say it's possible on VR Missions, maybe?
This is one my favorite games of all time. Even after all these years, I’m still learning some of the secrets and tips and such buried in this game. Kojima is a genius and you sir put together a great run. Thank you.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it
I instantly skipped to the comms tower in hopes you opted to use the Stun Grenade strat. I was not disappointed. I learned this from an unofficial strategy guide I found on the magazine rack of a retailer in 1998. It was loaded with curse words and funny tangents, a great read for a 9 year old kid 😂
I think... I also have that guide? It was a magazine called "Solutions" tbf, all 90s games journalism was like that lol
@Sir Rando Hey man. I'm trying to find that exact magazine but I don't know what the cover looks like. Could you possibly help me out? Thanks
May look into doing this challenge myself as I'm intrigued now after seeing it done. Absolutely sick.
It was really fun! Learning some new strategies was super cool. And it I did it again I could have reduced the final rime by A LOT. It should also be possible to do a foxhound version aswell
@@sirrando already theorizing in the discord friend.
@@MetalGlennSolid tag me if you do a run, would be super cool to see!
Its not Meryl who's useless. I mean, Mantis, the one who can control minds and use psychokinetic attacks and go invisible just decides to spin a few office chairs and paintings in the air and scream "I CAN'T READ YOU" and "WHHYYYY?" 😂
Thank you so much for the advice on punching before grabbing an enemy: getting caught damn near everytime was by far my biggest issue with Mgs1
Yeah, it is rough in the first one, also with all the guards being temepathic triggering an alert its a right pain. Glad it helped!
@@sirrando oh yeah I forgot that all of the genome soldiers are part of a damned hive mind in addition to the grabbing being difficult lol
@@Boristhaspydr I mean... they are our brothers after all!
Explosives/ballistics do not equal bullets/gunfire. In nearly every case the two categories are split. This was AWESOME to watch. Never would have thought about using grenades on ocelot, never knew about the psg1 glitch, there were some real creative solutions to do things without skips. I do think the door skip people mentioned in the comm tower was fair game as it skips no major content but this was a challenge run and not a Speedrun so tbh it's no different either way lol.
In any case, fantastic work.
I also never knew about quick swapping masking your footsteps on noisy floors
The real reason why I didnt use boba skip is because I am an idiot, I thought it would skip the hind fight, I was mistaken lol, I got the comms towers mixed up
Great video! I love seeing unusual strategies in MGS, and punching Sniper Wolf is pretty high up there.
I'm so sorry you had to backtrack to find more Nikita's for Wolf 2, because it's also possible to shoot her with the Stinger. Actually a pretty good strat for scouting her when using the PSG1 too.
I'm excited to see what else you do on this channel
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it, I am working one more videos so hope you like them all!
Yes, I used to use Stingers on some of the more annoying camera clusters too.
The Stinger works, but not quite as well because of the trees she uses for cover.
So I guess the answer is "no" due to the nikita, and especially not glitchless. I immediately jumped to the Wolf fights because I had no idea how they'd be handled without a gun. Didn't know about the strafe glitch, that's pretty cool. As for the 2nd time, I didn't know about that nikita trick either, but that definitely makes the battle easier even if you're not trying to minimize gun usage. And I'm guessing you still used the Stinger for Liquid..
But still, the fact that you only need guns for a few really specific instances really speaks volumes about the game and how well it was made, tbh. I def. can't beat the game in under 2 hours, it takes me much longer, haha. I'll have to sit down and watch this in full at some point. Good content, thanks!
Thanks! I didn't class either the Nikita or the stinger as a "Gun" for this run. So for my rules they weren't the soul destroying realisation that other things were...
But thanks for dropping by I am glad you have enjoyed it
@@sirrando Ah, I see. Gotcha.
@@sirrando yeah if you only used the Nikita for the electrical transformer I would accept it but using it to kill the guards is a different matter ... personally gonna count this as a fail, Stinger and Nikita still fire projectiles, explosive or not that still counts as too close to a gun for me
Good work, matey! Love seeing challenges in this game!
My God, I never knew that about the difference of the pal key location! I had no idea it was tied to how many alerts you had triggered. I'm still finding out things about this game!
Yeah, the amount of little things in the game (Well series really) is wild. So many little pieces of care and attention. I will be returning to some of the other games, I have already covered MGS2, MGS3 will be in the pipeline after my next video I think.
Past that, I am not sure what I could do within the series. 4 is rather tricky for me to play. and 5... well, its a big boy
Loved hearing fighting game terms like hitbox and whiff punish in the fight with Liquid haha. Great stuff!
I love fighting games... and I find the terminology just spills out occasionally lol
Nice! Hope you are killing it on that SF6!
@@armandeberwein920 I havent been playing too much sf6. Been working on these videos instead.
It is a great game and I want to play more
Found your channel randomly through the snake eater video, going back through the previous work :) very enjoyable!
Thank you! Glad you are enjoying them!
Man, such great memories relived through this walkthrough. Earned my subscription Sir Rando.👌🏻
Glad you enjoyed it!
The editing for this video/run is super slick! And I enjoyed the calm and informative commentary on top. Kudos, this was great work!
Thank you, I am glad you enjoyed it!
My clearest memory of MGS was borrowing it from a school friend but he misplaced to case so I got it in a different one but when you have to call Meryl, I had no hint and had to scan all the codec frequencies to find hers.
Ahh fond memories.
man, thats a wild one, little did you know by spamming colonel you could have got her number to show up anyway.
ive watched almost all the videos on your channel and it has quickly became one of my favorites because its so entertaining and seeing these challenges done so well with barely any cuts is truly what ive been waitin for on yt. thanks and keep up the amazing work brah!!!
I must say I really enjoyed that calm voice over in this video. It gave it a unique style I didn't find in other videos with the same topic (challenge runs).
Thank you! I am still exploring and trying to figure out how I want to do these things, glad you enjoyed it
Btw Johnny ALWAYS recognize its ketchup, you have to wait until he leaves the room to make it work
Ah ha, so my impatience got me, fair enough
"Your pretty good"
That challenge was so cool . It was like experiencing the game for the first time again tho the sad thing is the game doesn't let you fully complete it without guns
And we were so close aswell!
@@sirrando thankfully you can play mgs3 without using weapons except on bosses
@@alial-king9998 I have something a little different in mind for MGS3. I won't be doing it immediately, but it's a challenge I have never done seen before
Another banger dude. Great video looking forward to the next one.
About 80% of the way through editing. Hoping to be out before the end of the week
I think Johnny noticed it was ketchup in the cell because you used it after he had already partly entered the room, if it had been as he was still in the other room, it still would have worked? I think so anyway.
Subscribed :)
I thought that might be the case. But I was spamming to put down the ketchup and just got the "no use" sound. Maybe In extreme I needed to wait for him to fall asleep and then use it, that might work.
We need some MGS mythbusters lol
@@sirrando Think a UA-camr named BadHumans does a load of MGS myths and glitches. Worth checking out
This was a great video to watch! Your voice is very soothing and great for narrating (and helping me sleep lol), and the level of video editing seriously made me think that you had way over 10k subs. Will definitely look forward to any more challenge runs you make in the future similar to this one 😁
Thank you! That is great to hear. I am still in the experimental stage of trying to find what works best so any and all feedback is very welcome!
When you jumped in the truck I could just hear you say in your head 'hold up a minute, this doesn't seem right' 😂😂
My mind is freaking blown at using grenades against Ocelot, for some reason I just assumed grenades wouldn't be allowed because of the explosives around Baker.
1:43:05 Already knew you saved Meryl when you had the bomb in your backpack :)
Won’t lie, it looks like thermal goggles would have made the mantis fight easier to be honest. Which I do think there is at least two times you can pick them up, but the second time I think is after the mantis fight because if I remember, the door to them is a level 5 door, but the door is only open before you save the DARPA Chief. Which I think it is saving the DARPA Chief and not taking the elevator(based off memory), because after that you can’t get them until you get the level 5 card.
However, I didn’t know this until now, but you have to pick up the SOCOM first otherwise the thermal goggles are replaced by the SOCOM in that room. Picking up the SOCOM while you can avoid it, remember the rule says to not shoot. Doesn’t say you cannot pick up the weapon. However, unless I guess you liked the extra challenge to the Mantis fight then I guess the goggles are irrelevant.
@@NoName-oy2tk I was looking for them as I played just never found them, if I did this again... I would get them lol
amazing work, love the VR mission artwork, you should try the twin snakes version someday
Very slick editing. Nice playthrough and commentary.
I watched this over the past 3 days. Great job! I'm going to check out your MGS3 challenge next.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it
4:01 Snake is having a little too much fun with that chaff grenade
super cool run been playing this game since i was little and didn't know some of the glitches the first sniper wolf fight had me laughing
Thanks! It was a lotta fun finding out about some of those tricks and whatnot
Came here for the Sniper Wolf fights, was not disappointed in the slightest.
They were kinda wild lol
You made the Ocelot fight look easy man!
It took a few attempts, but once I had got a handle on the trick, it's fine
obsessed w the delivery of "You just tried this, mate."
😂
With as many times as I’ve played this game, I can’t ever remember trying to use grenades in the Revolver Ocelot fight.
Neither did I untill I asked the speedrunners. The thought didn't even cross my mind
57:24 you can avoid that section all together by doing what's called a Boba Skip where you get a guard push you through the frozen door that's on the staircase
Boba skip is super cool. Bit I was trying to not do any skips in this run.
I forgot that it was just the later games that incentivized you not to kill anyone! This game does its best to leave you no choice, although it does make sense narratively with Liquid speech berating Solid about enjoying all the killing and being filled with the joy of battle.
yup! minimum kills is 25 if I remember correctly
The trick to the repelling part is to aim your jumps where ever the steam isn't at. You can also wait for it to stop, the Hind is fairly easy to dodge if you wait until you first hear the gun start to fire.
“So I’m just gonna Stinger him from across the room” that killed me and him lol
👀
Big Boss would be proud
I played this game back when I was 15. I’ve never use the Nikita on
Sniper wolf before. It’s never even crossed my mind. I also didn’t know that there was body armor in this game. At least I don’t remember there being body armor.
The body armour is in a completely optional area that you don't need to visit. And the nikita strat is something I have always done.
But I always finish her off with the PSG1 so the cutscene makes sense 😅
Yikes, only one ration on extreme difficulty? 😵💫🦊
That's very extreme 😉
Yes
it is
Yes, you "choked Meryl out." I guess Mantis was pretending he didn't see that, lol.
Snake throwing stun grenades: "WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR, SHOOT!"
hey I am pretty sure Johnny saw it was ketchup because you used it while he was there
I think that's the case. But I was trying well before he was there and just getting the "no use" sound effect.
You are probably right though, should have been much earlier
Super cool run. I totally forgot about that weapons glitch.
I also forgot how sluggish the PAL version of this game is. I could never play this game in slow motion like that lmao.
Yeah, it is sluggish, makes the VR missions quite diffiicult. glad you enjoyed it
Love the video man mgs 1 is super fun to watch and some more mgs content maybe the same challenge on the other games in the series would be super awesome
I do have a similar video on MGS2, and a tenchu run aswell. I am looking to do challenges outside of only MGS, but I will be doing MGS3 in a couple of videos time!
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@sirrando no problem man mgs is probably my favourite talking simulator with stealth elements ever
@@DrBreadMann that is the best way to describe mgs I have heard!
if you use a cardboard box in the ninja fight he'll use nothing but the stomp attack on you, no matter what stage the fight is at (except for when his health reaches 0) , so hide in the box, he'll go for the stomp, unequip the box and move to the side, then hit him, repeat until his health goes to 0
Learn something new every day! thats a great strat, I love it!
I'm so used to the jams that are in MGS2 onwards. This feels so quiet. Nothing but ambient noises
There is some music, but its really wuite atmospheric
@@sirrando when I commented I only watched up to entering the tank hanger. Only sounds were water dripping and wind up to that point. (Not counting player sounds like footsteps)
49:00 Very smart way. Though I didn't get how that happened...!
+ 1:10:00 Masterpiece 🔥
Why thank you
Holding ≠ using. Seems like a legit run to me! Nicely done!
Thanks! glad you enjoyed it!
@@sirrando yeah very much! Looking forward to checking out the rest of your channel
@@JoshWiniberg Honestly, the older videos (like this one) feels so long ago, and so far below what I am trying to make now its mental. but glad you are enjoying my little corner of the internet!
@@sirrando haha give it more time and you'll probably look back and appreciate how good they are. I'm a musician and my favourite thing is always whatever I'm working on right now so it surprises me sometimes when people say their favourite piece of mine is something I wrote when I was 16, which is 20 years ago. I always thought that stuff was unrefined and basically rubbish, but with enough distance from it you can begin to appreciate (and even learn something from) your early work.
@@JoshWiniberg as a fellow musician, i get that. its more being a case of seeing how much has been learned in the space of time. Its not bad to look back, its just a trip as you can see how you would do it differently now
You’re pretty good.
So many of those nades in the tank fight were so close to going in the hatch. Landing one of those would have saved you so much time, health and ammo.
Also it made my soul sad you called Rex Ray lol
Oh No! Did I? Rex is the best metal gear aswell
@@sirrando1:35:27 but also yes. Rex is amazing. When you got to operate it in 4 i fan boyed really hard.
Sniper wolf tryna bust out the 720 no scopes 😂😂
Mgsr is 100% the most welcoming and knowledgeable community around
They are. They were exceptionally helpful while running these 3 games. Big shout out to platonic guy and hau5test
@sirrando hard agree. Those lads have helped me through some tough times too. Big out to preciousroy, Tyler and plywood also ^_^
You're pretty good!
Thanks Boss
What's the best video (or videos) to learn about all the Easter eggs of this masterpiece?
This guy, covers all the mgs games
youtube.com/@GeorgeSalonikh?si=Eec-JblIoK-mm15t
You used the ketchup too late. He has to be in the other room. Happened to me too. Without triggering alert, put your back to the door, move forward to go prone and then crawl backwards clipping through the door until the strap on snakes leg is nearly touching the door. Activate the American tomato bottle condiment before johnny enters the cell hall, wait for him to open the door, you will already be in range for strangulation, get up as soon as you see the question mark to immediately grab him. Drag him to the torture device without killing him if you want him to save the world in MGS4 and Bob's your step uncle Grandpa.
I was spamming to use the ketchup, I think i might have actually been far too early, and just needed to go through another round of torture. But yes, your set up is infact the best one
that first sniper wolf encounter was hilarious
Thats a wild strategy isnt it! she goes all wobbly and mental!
My first game was the twin snakes and it made me love the Metal gear franchise
Its a great franchise, twin snakes is one of my less played games, but it does look pretty!
Honestly, w know sniper wolf 2 can be done with nikita, I'm a huga advocate of staying true to a challenge but in the interest of time I would have allowed you to use the sniper for the last shot or 2 instead of going all the way back to mantis tbh. The ammo is 100% there, the nikita start works so yeah, why not.
Only a fool trusts his life to a weapon.
exactly!
Loving your video so far. Would love to play this again, if i find the time. Love this franchise. Happy its coming bad, sad kojima isnt involved. Happy konami pulled their head out their rear end. Mixed feeling about the MGS3 remake. My favorite of the series, no doubt. If they want to do a whole series of remakes, starting in order of timeline, then ill accept, but most most most deserving of a remake are the original Metal Gear games before Solid. Retell those two stories with modern technology, that would be great. Im sure most MGS fans missed out on the original games, those need attention
I'm the same. I have mixed feelings aboutbthe remake. But I am hy9e for the master collection. It will be good to have mgs1,2 and 3 on modern consoles and steam.
MGS 3 is the one least in need of a remake, so it's strange that they picked that one to do.
Looking forward for more challenges :D
Been a while since ive actually kept a video on my phone to watch later, Great watch!
Glad you enjoyed it!
58:10 I'm sure if you time it right you can avoid those guards bullets by dashing to the left and right then dropping a timed stun grenade as you approach them to knock them all down and get past to the door you need. They'll disappear when you go through the door still
That's a really interesting idea, I will need to investigate!
@@sirrando Check some speedruns from a couple years ago fella, before they discovered a skip last year to literally avoid doing this part they used to either snipe them fast or sprint at them if sniping isn't their thing (I'm sure you'll agree sniping on MGS1 is a pain)
@@FreeThinkAlways I knew about the boba skip, bit not this, it's older tech that I just didn't come across in my research for the vide9, good shout
I think i just realized something new about the mantis battle. Is his stereo audio flipped to screw with your mind? Like around 36:45 when he goes invisible i hear the laughing from the wrong side.
Very well noticed. But no, its actually my fault, I flipped left and right accidentally in my recording setup and didn't notice untill much later as I was playing on a TV
I've done this run. Sniper Wolf 1 and the ending tunnel sequence are the only parts of the game where you HAVE to shoot. Everything else can be solved with C4, grenades, claymores, nikita, or the stinger.
Sniper wolf 1, you can do without
@@sirrando I learned that from this video. Pretty cool trick there.
No, the dreaded PAL version!
Anyway, great work.
Yeah, it's just the version I had atbthe time
3:47 Finally, stalking
14:00 If this can help : You can throw another grenade not too long after killing the first soldier. If you time it right, it will explode right after the cut scene where the 2nd soldier takes over.
Huh, good strat, i didnt think of that!
Man that Mantis fight on extreme is gruelling! Considering the amount of dodging and concentration you have to focus on compared to all the other boss fights I can t believe how many hits it takes to defeat him. This boss fight and the rays on mgs2 are the reasons I've never been able to complete either game on extreme
The mantis fight was very similar to the rays fight. Both were a test of concentration over anything else.
Admittedly, punching mantis isn't the best strategy in a normal extreme run, he is usually quite quick
On PS2 the Rays were easy compared to Solidus choking you, if that's possible to believe
@@TAKESHIRONORIMITSU I remember them being abit easier on ps2 than on the HD collection. However I was only around 10 when MGS2 came out so wasn't interested in playing it on extreme. Easy mode was my childhood
It was much easier on HD collection than original. The porting team looked at how hard it was, laughed and made it much easier.
It was harder to the point a bunch of people won't speedrun the original release on EE just because of the solidus choking section, it was maddeningly difficult.
I used the spoon method to do it back in the day
The Substance encounter/fight edits were an unexpected, but welcome surprise ❤
Yeah, I loved the boss rush titles in 2 so I remade them, and I think they worked quite well!
@@sirrando Just got to the first SW fight- I am crying at her strafing animation trying to hit you, never seen or heard about that before 💀
I liked to stinger missile the sneaky gun turrets.. payback for all the times they got me 😂
So do I in a bunch of my play through, issue was I wanted to make sure I was locked and loaded for the REX fight and the Hind
Sniper Wolf: "WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN MY HOUS-" *punched*
It's the only way to beat a sniper. Sneak up on em
The game is running slower. Is this because of the PS2? Or is the video capture slowing things down?
It's running properly, It is the PAL version that does run slower than the NTSC version
@@sirrando Ahh yes. The 50 Hz is what I was noticing. It makes sense now.
Yeah, PAL games are a pain to capture aswell, capture cards tend not to like the weird 575 lines resolution malarkey that happens.
I'm just glad that MGS2 HD is in proper 60fps
On comma tower B there's 4 sets of cameras and if you time your chaff perfectly you can actually clear all 4 sets with just 3 chaff btw
I want to preface my comments by saying you did an amazing job... way better at this game than I was lol... and I played the crap out of this back in the late 90s when it was new... and I didn't know about quite of few of the exploits you used... so kudos
Is that pre boss fight screen your creation . in my opinion it really is a bit jarring and takes the player out of the moment of the game
Also, I thought on extreme getting an alert was an automatic game over... its why without the radar I never made it very far on extreme.. (beat it on hard a bunch of times ..but never extreme )
Thanks! And to answer your questions. Yes I did make those boss fight transitions.
Euro Extreme was a automatic game over if you set it to be so from mgs2 onwards. That isn't an option in mgs1. Initially it feels like it though with how squishy he is on that difficulty
Ok. Yea thats weird how I remember on MDG1 (In the States) extreme being an automatic game over when seen...
If you had changed the challenge to "firing a gun" it would entirely avoid the debate on the sniper wolf section.
I think you might have a point there
Another way to make the Mantis fight easier is to use the thermal goggles. You can hit hime while he's moving around.
I know, but I never found them, I was thrown off by not collecting the famas I regards to item placement
indeed a man of focus and commitment
Thank you
played this so many times , But my mind was blown with this lol 3:51 , Had no idea about this
There's some interesting tech in this video for sure.
I love to get bombed in battle! There's nothing like the feeling of a fat pineapple lobbed right at your face and exploding everywhere in a climax!
I think this is the best "Out Of context" comment i have ever seeen. it sounds so insane... but makes so much sense
This game will never stop amazing me!!!
It's 25 years, and I don't know about gun glitch and that there are more walls next to elevator to blow in B2 basement!!! I'm 37 and I have played it hundred of times and didn't notice it!!! 😮😮😮😮
Its hard to notice because of the camera angle but there are 2 of them
@@sirrando isn't there 3 of them? When I played it again the other day there were at least 3. Maybe 4.
love these videos
Thank you!
The ketchup works only if u fully get it out before johnny sees you. U were almost done using the ketchup.
I’m surprised you didn’t do the two piece combo strat on liquid when fighting him on top of Rex
I tried a few times, but I could t quite nail the rhythm down, so just fought him normally
for mantis and fox you cab use the thermal goggle to see them when they're invisible.
13:57 Damn he pop out the tank.
Unless it's different in Extreme Mode, you could've gotten the Body Armor earlier. B2 Nuclear Warhead Storage by the Cameras, in in the Level 6 Room. @ 1:21:21
That would have been useful to know atbthe time.
Learn something new every day
You’re pretty good
13:35 I read somewhere that the blast radius of the grenades is lower on Extreme so maybe that's the reason it's more difficult to do damage to the gunner.
I mean, that would do it! I was also finding it a lot harder than ever before to sink them inside the tank.
this is awesome I love playing these games on European extreme I was sad it wasn't a option in MGSTTP are you going to do MGS4, peace walker or MGS5
If I come up with a good enough challenge idea for them sure.
Honestly i tried beating MGS5 with no reflex mode, no markers, No detections and and no kills (obviously not including forced encounters for no detection) @@sirrando