I just bought a 2019 RT. Is it slower than the ScatPack and Hellcat, absolutely! Does it have a decent amount of power, does it turn heads, can you still burn the tires, and have fun flooring it on the highway without breaking the bank? Absolutely! Love my RT.
The cool thing is it doesn't take a ton of crazy changes to give it the same performance as the 6.4 in that ScatPack either. The whole lineup is just awesome!
The only reason it gets a bad rep and I’m bein serious here, is most of these kids nowadays dunno anything about cars. They know horsepower numbers and prices but can’t figure anything out heck you mentioning torque they dunno what torque means! The Challenger R/T is a great car. The 5.7 is great as well. Take care
Exactly! I remember a few years back searching videos looking for drag races with the 5.7 people were roll racing I was like wtf is this the video says drag race!!! Seems to be the norm now like it’s cool these bozos running around beeping their horns 3 times and racing down the highway. WTF LOL
C yea it’s more of a status symbol. Bragging who has a bigger hp number.When I was younger 400hp was a lot for a street car. Still is. Now it’s like people think they need 1000 hp+. Don’t even need that much power at all.
KY241HELLYEA I agree. Most of the guys modding their Hellcats and ZL1s to hit 1000hp don’t even race, it’s just for driving on the street. Even going up to highway speeds you can’t use all that power on the street. Hellcats can already go deep in the 10s, that’s damn fast. I think people forget it doesn’t have to be the fastest car on the road to be fun to drive. The torque alone that the R/Ts put down make them a blast to drive.
I've owned my 2010 RT 7 years and I love it. Ive driven SRT 8s, still happy with my 5.7 Hemi. Shorty headers, 6.1 intake and a Diablo tuner with a Jay Green tune. Pulls hard. 5.7s a working mans Hemi
I think what a lot of people forget is that 5.7 hemi is so much easier to work around than the 6.4 hemi and less expensive. With better cams long tube headers and tune (granted long tube headers are pretty pricey) you’re easily making more torque and HP and still being naturally aspirated. A 5.7 hemi is a real good project car.
That’s all I need to be convinced to buy one. I’ve been eying a C5 Corvette because it’s a manual V8 that’s forgiving to work on. I doubt a new Camaro or Mustang can do this for me. My Jeep has a 3.6 Pentastar engine that’s a dream to work on. It makes sense that the 5.7 Hemi is also awesome to work on
Is the 5.7 slow? No, is the 3.6 slow? No. Are they drag race fast? No. They are great looking cars and so fun to drive no matter what you have! My dream car is the hellcat.
The 5.7 Trim isn't slow, don't listen to the negative comments out there, they are just clueless. I started with a Dodge Shadow V6 many years ago, was a quick little car, and fun. I also owned a 94 Mustang 5.0, but nothing compares to the 392 Challenger in my experience. When I upgraded from my RT Shaker a year ago, I am glad I did that instead of modding, but to each their own.
I agree, speed is subjective depending on our past experiences and if all you've ever driven was a base model Elantra, this should feel like a rocket. I had a 2020 Elantra SE before jumping into a relative's Audi RSQ8 and I felt like I was leaving earth
I think it’s still fast, funny thing is had it been 10 or 12 years ago the r/t would be a beast I remember when my aunt first got the 300c Chrysler back in 2005 that had 340 horsepower and that was fast as fuck, but nowadays average v6 is putting out 300 horsepower or around that and now a lot of people think that 375 isn’t that fast. I say it is and more than enough power to have fun with.
Finally an objective video. Nobody whining about hellcat this or scatpack that. Look at the car you're reviewing!!!! Is it slow??? In this case NO...there!! Lol. Great content. Liked and subbed.
Went from a 2012 Honda Accord coupe to a 19 charger Rt plus with a mid muffler delete , anyone that says a 5.7 is not enough needs to reevaluate cars in general , this makes it enjoyable to drive even with the fl drivers haha , great vid man
There will always be a faster car out there. Get something you can afford and make it your own. Cars are meant to be driven at the end of the day and thats what its all about.
I owned several Challenger R/T's in the past both with the 375hp 5.7 liter engine. Both cars went from 0-60 in under 6 seconds but not by much. I think the weight car hinders it's performance. A 4000 pound car takes a lot of power to get a respectable 0-60 and quarter mile time. If you can afford to buy the Challenget R/T Scat Pack then you'll get a lot more performance from the 6.4 liter hemi (485hp).
@@dudetheguy7893 You don't have to supercharge to make it fast although supercharging is a really cool route to take. With a great cam setup and some headers you'll be sitting in 392 territory powerwise.
Track Pack R/T I don’t agree. Look at R/T life’s channel and build. A great cam and long tubes will not get you scatpack performance or numbers. You will need a stroker kit to compete NA or boost.
Eager Charger the problem with R/T life’s cam is that it was a custom grind from Jay Green. That’s fine and all but anyone who gets a custom grind usually don’t know what the specs of the cam are, or the expected power improvement estimates. I’ll be sharing the results of my HRT stage 2 cam in the coming months, but comp cams is claiming it put down 471 hp on a 5.7 that only had headers and a larger throttle body. If the claims are on the money which I assume they’ve got to be close as comp cams are usually pretty trustworthy there’s a lot of 5.7s out there that will be hurting some feelings.
I feel like what a lot of people forget is that the Challengers have plenty of power and are quick enough to have fun, they’re just heavier than other muscle cars and that plays a big factor
I have an R/T and I absolutely love it. Plenty of power for a daily. Will def be doing a few mods to make it quicker. That engine note with a muffler delete is 🔥. I got my R/T a month ago and the scatpacks with markups were a $15k price difference. For $15k I'll have a blower pushing 500+ Whp. Just didn't make sense to me to spend $15k more for a 100hp gain
Just subbed brother. I just purchased a 2019 R/T Challenger and I'm more than satisfied! This video makes me feel even better about my purchase and I absolutely LOVE my car. Now it's time to get my channel off the ground. Thanks for the awesome video 😎
I have a 2013 challenger RT, it is fast? Sure enough for me...most kids with the “ the RT is slower than the camaro and mustang” yup, that’s for sure, but...my car was bought new, still looks like new, puts a smile on my face every time I drive it...while you already crashed your mustang or camaro and still paying for it... If I needed a car for a race track, I would have bought it...
I was gone buy a R/T until I saw for ol most the same price Chevy Camaro SS got 455 HP with a 10 speed transmission love that muscle sound with the Pop Pop
I went to the Dodge Dealer ship looking for a 392 coming from a mustang v6 but all they had in inventory were the R/Ts so I test drove it just to see what it was like , and holy smokes was i surprised of how fast it is. That 395 torque was so addicting . I feel like that car is so underrated and no one can tell me it isn’t fast . Drive it for yourself is all I will say .
Also, I've heard that Dodge tends to list the cars at lower HP for possible insurance reasons. I've seen on a few forums where the R/T gets Dyno tested and they push close to 410hp at the crank. Do you know this to be true?
It's kind of true to a point. I don't know if 410 is really that accurate for a stock 5.7, but I will say this, it is the exact same engine that's in the Ram 1500s. And they rate that engine at 390 hp. Yet the engines are identical and will dyno pretty much the same.
The only thing I can't get past with the RT is how unreliable it seems (from doing my research). With MDS an VTT in the 5.7 an 6.4 it just seems like the 6.1 is the all-around better motor for long term use/owning.
So how much exactly does the RT spin and go sideways when you just floor it from a stop or even like 10-15 MPH?? Want to know, and find out for myself so bad, but having a little trouble coming up with the funds anytime soon unfortunately...
Elevation does make a difference. I am a mile high above sea level. Last year at the track I raced a charger state patrol with the 5.7 and ran off and left him. Next race I ran against a 2018 Challenger srt 392. That was a close race. I beat him by .007 sec. Ran 13.3 @ 105 mph. I made some changes during the winter to my 06 gto. Looking to get into the high 12s.
I've only had them as hire cars but I've driven a Mustang GT and most recently a Challenger RT. The Mustang has more power and torque but the Challenger just felt fast all the time. If you floor the Challenger in park it properly twitches on its suspension. I think if you get caught up in the figures you are missing out. Just drive it.
It is NOT slow. It compares equally to the times of the first gen Challenger 426 and 440 engines. If you are not on the track racing, this modern R/T is plenty fast. 89 mid-grade too. No one buys these cars for gas mileage but even that makes the modern R/T quite impressive. I have floored my 2020 R/T less than 10 times since buying it new. There is just no need unless racing. For the average guy/ gal, the R/T is just right. The 400 torque gets you moving real quick!
You’re bang on there. That’s part of the reason the 5.7 is such a popular engine to swap into classic mopars. Similar performance to the top tier halo cars from back in 70s but with modern reliability, durability and fuel economy.
Yeah they might feel close to the same power wise, but everyone always forgets about the suspension in the SRTs and not many 6.1s are stock these days either. So those with RTs are always playing catch-up, and is just the way it is. I'm not taking anything away from them, and are still good cars though 💪🏼😎
Suspension and brakes are a huge upgrade from the base RTs to the SRTs!Once you start getting into that 450 wheel horsepower range it’s kind of a wash anyways between the different engines, as that seems to be a great sweet spot for the power and fun factor. The great thing about all the N/A Hemis is its fairly easy to get them to this power level without affecting the drivability or reliability of the car. Dodge has a killer engine lineup in these cars!
Awesome vid man! I was doing my research on the 5.7 hemi and it looks like on the Dyno it’s pushing 330-350 rwhp on a mustang Dyno bone stock. Do u think that dodge under rated this car? Maybe for insurance purposes? I wanted ur thoughts on it
To be honest I don’t think they under rated it much. The only thing I can say is that the 5.7 in the Challenger is the exact same Hemi that’s in the Rams which are rated at 390 hp. So there’s something off there a little bit. I will say that if you throw on a set of long tube headers even into the stock catback like I did you’ll put around 375 to the wheels which will put you in the same territory as the 6.1 Hemi for one pretty basic mod.
@@TrackPackRT I was actually looking into doing that. And I find it funny how the rams are pushing almost 400. I have a 2018 Ta 5.7 (only mod CAI) do u think I can throw long tubes on it without doing anything else. Thanks
@@julyfishy392 absolutely. With only long tube headers and high flow cats I put down 374 hp to the rear wheels. It really woke the car up big time, even through the stock catback.
I've bought my 2014 Challenger R/T Plus, back in April, 2016. I love my car. Is TorRed, has chrome wheels, chrome fuel cap and a red interior. It look aggressive but, it is by no means a fast car. I can't even out run a Honda Civic, let alone a Subaru Outback. But, it is that classic American, muscle car look that can't be dublicated with other muscle cars.
I ran a 13.2 with catless midpipes and a radial in my 2018 Dodge Challenger R/T with a 1.9 60 foot, my best 0-60 is a 4.5 seconds but I have the 8 speed which does wonders it’s just the rear gearing that’s a setback!!!
Yea man those 8speed autos are great! Got to drive a Scatpack with an 8 speed and it really was amazing! Those are great times man, get some long tubes on there and you'll be in the 12's all day!
I had a 5.7 Chrysler 300 and for a sedan it had power with this k&n intake, Flowmaster and new spark plugs. I wouldn't mind having another rt version of dodge or Chrysler.
I’d say 420 to the crank is a little high for that. An example to look at would be a lot of the 6.1 Hemis that are rated at 425 hp at the crank usually put out around 375 to the wheels stock, just as a comparison.
Its like not crazy fast but not crazy slow either.Its a very good daily driver but if you want the speed you just get the 392.The 5.7 is perfect for daily driving.
Really great opinion 👍🏼 my dad has a 5.7 liter v8 with 500 horses and it’s orange and black with a pull bar in the front almost simuliar to general lee it’s pretty cool
Many of the younger guys will poo poo my comments here, but there is fast and faster and fast enough. My opinion is the Hellcat is outrageously overpowered for the street. The SRT8 has a gas guzzler tax and increased insurance penalty associated with the slight performance improvement over the R/T. The R/T has plenty of performance for fun and could still get one in more trouble than they would care for, if not careful. The R/T delivers performance much more in tune with real world driving demands and even the SXT is plenty for many folks. I love my 2013 R/T 6 speed. I've had it 7 yrs with nary complaint.
It is true, in a Hellcat you can barely get into it before you’re way over the speed limit. They are a ton of fun on the track though. The down low torque on the 5.7 means you can have fun and let loose without having to be quite so careful. Glad you’re enjoying your R/T still, I’ve had mine 11 years and still love it as much as when I got it!
@@TrackPackRT I totally agree with you. Way too many folks fixate on horsepower, understandably because that is the factor the drums have always been beat for, but the real stats of consequence to focus on for the street is torque! 400 # ft of torque is the domain of fun, fun, fun in the Challenger, besides it and the '70-'74 original being among the best looking cars of all time!
The horsepower and torque ratings of the 5.7 were only found in the fastest sports cars some decades ago, the 5.7 is fast. Yes, the Scat Pack is faster but you can't say it's not fast because ithe Hellcat, Redeye or the Demon are faster. You are only going from fast to insanely fast!
Your going from fast to ludicrous speed...😂 My lil Sister recently sold me her 06 Charger RT with 90k for 3k and for such a heavy pig it's insanely quick to me. I have Dart I used to drive with a 318 with a lot of basic bolt ons and this thing is on another level and the Dart was pretty quick for a factory 69 318 with minor goodies.
The thing I love about the 5.7's the most is how well they respond to mods. Unlike the 6.4's, the 5.7 has a lot of room to grow while still being reliable and a great driver.
This is for sure making me contenplate the 5.7 challenger and/or charger or sticking with my turbo 4 roots. It dont take much though to get the 5.7 to scat comparison considering unlike the 6.4 the 5.7 is choked to all hell from factory. With a better header and exhaust, ported or 6.4 manifold, maybe a cam, and a 3.09 gear with a tire and a tune and its a fun monster
I had two 5.7s Challenger, one was a red line edition with the 6 speed manual, the other was an automatic Shaker 5.7 (which I totaled), after buying a 2018 GT with the Performance Pack along with a used C6 vette, I'm back in a 2020 Scat pack manual. I had no issue with the 5.7, sure it was not the fastest car out there, neither is my Scat Pack, point being is they both are good cars, good engines. I'm more into the Challenger because of the styling and retro look. That 2018 GT was a good bit quicker that my 5.7, actually test faster than my Scat Pack (I don't have the 1320 package), but in all the Challengers I felt like I was in something more substantial than a GT (not hating on the GT, but is has a different feel).
The Hemis have better downlow torque not only because of the bigger displacement but because it’s a pushrod V8 rather than the DOHC Coyote. DOHC motors need to rev to make that power. The scatpacks are great! Sounds like you’ve had some cool rides.
I've been looking at picking up an R/t on the used market because they have come down in price quite a bit in the past year or so. I looked up some stock dyno runs of challengers and chargers with the 5.7 and they seem to make about 330hp and 350 lbs-ft torque at the wheels, which really doesn't sound like a lot on paper. I still need to test drive it some more but its winter here now with tons of snow on the ground and they are all in summer tires so no thanks. Gotta wait a few months.
Yea that’s roughly what an R/T will put down to the wheels. It makes for a pretty fun daily driver. With the torque it makes and where it sits in the power band, it gives you lots of pull from a stop and enough power to shred your tires and do donuts to your hearts content.
Is the 5.7 slow? That's relative. the better question is, is it underpowered compared to the rest of the lineup including the 3.6l. and that would be a yes
I disagree with you there. It is more underpowered than the 6.4 and up but that's because it's a trim level below them, that makes sense. I've you've had a chance to drive the 3.6 vs driving the 5.7 there is a TON of difference there, and I'm not hating on the 3.6, I have it in my Wrangler and love that engine. Not only that with just a couple mods and spending around $1200-1500 in mods you're looking at about 425 flywheel hp in a totally reliable daily driver. The modding potential for the 5.7 is huge, not so much for the 3.6. Depends on how you look at it and what you want though I suppose.
I might be kinda late to the party but, the 5.7 is a great car for more of a everyday use. But for comparison, the new 1LT Camaro comes out the box with 455hp starting at 35K with a manual. Kinda hard to beat, or even the Mustang GT for a bit more. 460hp from a 5.0 kinda shows that displacement alone isnt everything.... What i mean is, its a bit underpowered in the V8 class next to the competition.
Yea the mopars are always more expensive than the comparable Chevs and Fords it seems. Same goes for aftermarket support. You’re definitely not getting into a Challenger because it’s the cheapest fast car for the money. The 5.7 also fills a market segment the competition doesn’t really have a model for, it would be like if the Camaro had a 5.3 version before the SS.
I've owned a 6 spd 2009 R/T for about 2 weeks now, and I can definitely say I don't feel the punch as much as I did in my previous car, a 2014 3.7 Mustang. I enjoy the looks and the sound better on the Challenger, but it's just so damn heavy that the 375hp somehow still feel underwhelming going through the gears.
The FCA folks are not keeping up with the competition with the 5.7 Hemi in cars and Ram trucks. The cars don't have the short headers, cam, Apache heads or dual phase intakes that could easily be adapted from the 6.4 Hemi and would push the 5.7 to an easy 435 HP. The trucks are lagging behind as well and need cam, heads and exhaust manifold upgrades to compete with the Ecoboost F150s. The Ram is nicer than every other half ton truck in every regard except power. There is only one V8 engine choice currently and the 6.4 version in the 2500 series trucks sucks. The half ton truck needs an optional V8 in the 465 to 500 HP range right now. The LH cars need an all wheel drive twin turbo 3.6 Pentastar of at least 450 HP for civilian as well as law enforcement sales.
Charles Marshall the eco boost Fords are interesting because they don’t really have direct competition and have gotten pretty popular with truck owners because they seem to perform well. The next gen of engines will be interesting as I’m sure the lineup will change drastically.
I bought my 5.7 as a test vehicle. I've always had 4x4 Ram trucks and never had a car so this was a test. I really enjoy my 5.7 R/T and its extremely comfortable. But, the 6.4 Scat Pak is where I'm looking at. These 5.7's are great starting point but that's all it is.
James Kidd The thing I love about the 5.7 is how much potential is there to pick up 80-100 hp pretty easily without going the super charger route or changing the reliability the 5.7 is known for. I do love the 6.4s too though! Great right out of the box performance!
Had a 5.7 single cab ram with the 8 speed that ol' 5.7 wasn't a slouch at all the thing just kept pulling and pulling it didn't stumble and lug between gears like chevies do, if they gave the 5.7 the same intake and cam that the 6.4 there would be little point too the 6.4 pretty sure you can get 80-100 horses from the cam intake and a dyno tune
Cam, headers and dyno tune absolutely. The intake will get you some extra low end torque, but overall peak power won't really change with it. Adds a fair bit more under the curve that you can really feel though. I'm sitting in that 80-100 hp over stock mark right now with the stock intake still on. The 5.7 really is a great platform no matter what you want to do with it!
When you consider that the 7L 426 street Hemis we’re running mid thirteens with 425hp during the late sixties, and were probably lighter than today’s challengers, I don’t think you can call the 5.7 Hemi slow! The only thing Dodge needs to do to make them quicker is reduce weight and get rid of those awful 3.07 rear gears that come with the automatic cars, try a 3.91 instead and see a big difference!
Totally agree with both points. I love old cars and still have an 1981 Trans Am. Today’s performance really is next level. And I have the 3.91 gears, they’re a lot of fun once I got rid of the wheel hop!
I can agree about the 1/4 miles times seeming average , but also comparing a 5.7 to a scat pack or Hellcat is unfair. Again, if Dodge reduced the weight on these cars and made a decent rear axle ratio available, especially in the automatic cars, they would be a lot more competitive against cars in their class. The 5.7 is a more “corporate” engine than it’s larger brothers and could use more help. From what I see in various videos, this engine responds very well to a variety of aftermarket mods, and is a better choice for a daily driver than the more powerful Dodge engines. It all depends on what you’re looking for in a car, If you want to be king of the street or strip, by all means get a Hellcat or Demon, to each his own!
A year ago I test drove a 2010 r/t then a 2016 scat pack I was not giving up the extra money for the 2016. Just wasn’t enough difference for the cost. I love my R/T no regrets. I drove a 2020 r/t last week. If the price drops again...
Just bought a 2010 rt 5 speed auto for a daily driver. I actually really enjoy it. Pulls decent, comfy car and looks good. I buy and sell tons of modded high horsepower stuff and the rt is fine imo. Its a fun car highly recommend, few bolt ons and tune it'll be just right.
Looking at a 2010 challenger RT with 113K not sure if i should grab it or not. I totaled my 2015 charger RT. I was also looking at the Chrysler 300C with the hemi. Any recommendations 👀
They’re slow cars compared to the competition like the gt and ss, should at least keep up with those which they don’t not even a little bit, but for personal track numbers they’re fun cars
They’re not really meant to compete with the SS or GT, that’s the Scatpacks territory. They don’t really have a competition bracket to compare to. Faster and torquier than every companies entry level cars but not as fast as their V8 trim levels.
13.4sec stock 5.7 shaker in Texas. Dead stop takeoff would spin the tires nonstop. But not a lot of power at highway speed tho. All the torque is down low.
Absolutely. That’s where the Hemis shine is down low. The 6.4s breathe better up top because of the extra HP but they still all are in their element off the line. Completely different from the 5.0 mustangs which don’t have much power down low but make lots up top.
Very fun car but to compete with Mustang GT and Camaro SS you need at least a Scat Pack. Something to consider. If you don't care about that though it's a very fun, excellent sounding, v8.
In stock form you’re absolutely right, it’s the underdog out of that pack. One of the cool things about the 5.7 is how well it responds to mods. It’s a car that you can get when you’re on a budget and later on throw a couple things at it and be right with the SS’s and Scats. I think if you have a bigger budget off the hop it definitely makes more sense to get the Scatpack.
@@TrackPackRT - by the way, I see you made a great video on the V6 engine. I have a 392 charger but I love the challenger and am looking at one to daily and share the miles with my scat. Would you recommend the 5.7 or the V6 challenger?
@@GuysTalkingCars personally I would go with the 5.7 even if all thing were equal just for the sound alone. The 5.7 has a ton of more torque than the 3.6 but if you already have a 392 you aren’t necessarily looking for that. I’d say it comes down to a couple factors. How important is gas mileage to you? How important is sound to you? Do you need to drive this car through a winter (real winter with snow)? If you need AWD then the 3.6 is your only option. The 3.6 gets 4 mpg better city and about 7 highway better than the 5.7 so if that’s really important, that will determine what makes the most sense to you. If you still want to have some fun driving this around with the extra torque it provides maybe the 5.7 would be better.
@@TrackPackRT great insight thank you. It doesn’t seem like the MPG difference is that compelling when comparing the two. And I think having a challenger without the sound - - well, I think it would be missed. Ive seen exhaust setups for the V6 that are pretty good - but not a v8. I do live in CA - so snow or harsh winters aren’t really a factor. Even though the 5.7 is gonna cost a bit more, seems it may be the more satisfying challenger . . .
Is the 5.7 hemi slow? Well depends what you consider slow? Compared to the Mustang and Camaro its little slow straight line or curves. That being said I like the Challenger over the other 2. I do own a 5.7 hemi in a truck. :)
honestly a 5.0 is definitely faster than a challenger 5.7 rt but i just love the looks of a challenger more of a muscle car look and it’s still pretty damn fast
Stock for stock The newer Rt challengers are about the same if not little faster then STI's, 350zs and other little quick cars everyone thinks are so quick!!
Absolutely, that A8 puts you at a big advantage over the older A5's or even M6's like mine. Throw some long tubes on there and a tune and you've got a really quick car that's incredibly fun to drive!
@@leninguzman6181 you didn't notice how I excluded mustangs? Mustangs are quicker than most cars regardless but they still look like a Hyundai or Toyota or something stupid like that!!!
My fiancee is in sales at my local dodge dealer and a challenger is likely my next car. Been doing the R/T vs Scat Pack shuffle in my mind. The snowball effect kicks in when I check a couple option boxes and My "affordable" R\T creeps into base Scat Pack price territory. Insurance rates might win the war for the R/T though.
If it makes more financial sense to get the R/T for you it’s not so bad, the 5.7 jumps up in power big time with just a few mods. You can add power when you have extra cash for some parts down the road while at the same time getting the option packages you want.
Eager Charger I disagree with you on that. Lots of power to be had with not much $ spent. However there’s nothing wrong with a Scatpack or even better a Hellcat. They’re both awesome. If I had $70k sitting around I would buy one in a second!
Well like I said in my area the RT is cheaper to insure. After combining the cost of insurance with the price of the vehicle A fully loaded RT ends up with a lower cost of ownership then a base model scat pack
Anyone can claim something is "fast" it is subjective term and only applicable to how the user defines it. I have a 09 300c with just dynomax race bullets swapped out for mid mufflers on stock 245 tires and Ive ran a best of 5.53sec 0-60 in a 4500lb car is impressive to me. When i had a 05 350z base model with intake, exhaust, dyno tuned run around the same 0-60 time and or ran a 14.0 @100mph in the 1/4mile. The 5.7l eagle motors are exceptional beast for the money in terms of power and mpg given the power they have.
No matter which way you slice it, what we have is a nice v8, but at the end of the day it's the same motor they put in their worktrucks. It's better than most cars but there are a LOT of bigger fish
That always seems like such a strange thing to say about the 5.7 hemi and I've heard people say it before. Yes it's in Dodge's trucks (so is the 6.4 btw) but why does that make it not good? The 5.7 small block chevy is looked at as legendary, yet it was standard in a ton of their trucks as well. You are right there are a lot bigger fish and crazier engines out there, but if you're shopping for a Hellcat Redeye, or a ZR1 Vette or a new GT500 the R/T isn't even on your radar. What's cool about the 5.7 is it doesn't take much to make it just as fast as the 6.4 which everyone goes crazy about the performance of. No matter which Hemi you've got they all kick ass.
@@TrackPackRT I agree with the last statement, my car has mufflers deleted, and my next 2 steps are going to be fatter tires and long tubes/tune. I love my car, but from the factory (which is what most people care about) it is slow compared to performance cars, because the 5.7 is not a performance motor, it's a work truck motor. The 6.4 is from the factory meant for performance as well as the 6.2
Let’s be real, a 5.7 is better for everyday driving than a hell kitty or demon. Unless you live in rural road. Most of these hell kittens get sent back to nursery school by vettes with less torque anyway
Well a 5.7 will get better gas milage for sure. One thing that shocked me about driving a Hellcat is how smooth and easy it was just to drive around town. It felt more smooth than my R/T but I partially attribute that to my car having much steeper 3.91 gears in the rear. However once you open up the throttle in that Hellcat....man what a car!
In the grand scheme of musclecars the 5.7 R/T 375 HP blows away decades of 70s, 80s, 90s and early 2000s cars. And even as powerful as most 60s muscle cars. Only when comparing it to 2015 and up Scats, Cats, Plaids, GT500s, C8, BMW 5s etc, does it start to be considered a slower car. Enjoy the heck out of that R/T most of the people on the planet never had a car that powerful or quick.
I just bought a 2019 RT. Is it slower than the ScatPack and Hellcat, absolutely! Does it have a decent amount of power, does it turn heads, can you still burn the tires, and have fun flooring it on the highway without breaking the bank? Absolutely! Love my RT.
The cool thing is it doesn't take a ton of crazy changes to give it the same performance as the 6.4 in that ScatPack either. The whole lineup is just awesome!
Agreed
@carlos salazar...bought my 2018 RT 5 months ago I fukin love it bro! Just threw some magnaflow on it love ripping that highway up!
Ernesto Esparza I bet it sounds great!
I feel the same about my RT! I love the car and don't have any plans on trading it!
The only reason it gets a bad rep and I’m bein serious here, is most of these kids nowadays dunno anything about cars. They know horsepower numbers and prices but can’t figure anything out heck you mentioning torque they dunno what torque means! The Challenger R/T is a great car. The 5.7 is great as well. Take care
That’s why it drives me nuts seeing people roll race a 5.7 against a mustang. They negate all that down low torque that makes the 5.7 Hemis great!
Exactly! I remember a few years back searching videos looking for drag races with the 5.7 people were roll racing I was like wtf is this the video says drag race!!! Seems to be the norm now like it’s cool these bozos running around beeping their horns 3 times and racing down the highway. WTF LOL
C yea it’s more of a status symbol. Bragging who has a bigger hp number.When I was younger 400hp was a lot for a street car. Still is. Now it’s like people think they need 1000 hp+. Don’t even need that much power at all.
KY241HELLYEA I agree. Most of the guys modding their Hellcats and ZL1s to hit 1000hp don’t even race, it’s just for driving on the street. Even going up to highway speeds you can’t use all that power on the street. Hellcats can already go deep in the 10s, that’s damn fast. I think people forget it doesn’t have to be the fastest car on the road to be fun to drive. The torque alone that the R/Ts put down make them a blast to drive.
I've owned my 2010 RT 7 years and I love it. Ive driven SRT 8s, still happy with my 5.7 Hemi. Shorty headers, 6.1 intake and a Diablo tuner with a Jay Green tune. Pulls hard. 5.7s a working mans Hemi
Literally same mods ( corsa exhaust set up, cooks shortys ) easily a 4.8 sec ride..
I think what a lot of people forget is that 5.7 hemi is so much easier to work around than the 6.4 hemi and less expensive. With better cams long tube headers and tune (granted long tube headers are pretty pricey) you’re easily making more torque and HP and still being naturally aspirated. A 5.7 hemi is a real good project car.
It absolutely is!
That’s all I need to be convinced to buy one. I’ve been eying a C5 Corvette because it’s a manual V8 that’s forgiving to work on. I doubt a new Camaro or Mustang can do this for me. My Jeep has a 3.6 Pentastar engine that’s a dream to work on. It makes sense that the 5.7 Hemi is also awesome to work on
Is the 5.7 slow? No, is the 3.6 slow? No. Are they drag race fast? No. They are great looking cars and so fun to drive no matter what you have! My dream car is the hellcat.
Drive what you like and like what you drive. That's what it's all about. Please yourself first.
The 5.7 and v6 are slow though lol
A pimp named slickback they aren’t tho 💀
@@irunfromcomp9678 they are. I've owned a 5.7 and now a 392 and I'll smoke that shit
@@ApimpNamedSlickBack663 of course compared to something faster lol
The 5.7 Trim isn't slow, don't listen to the negative comments out there, they are just clueless. I started with a Dodge Shadow V6 many years ago, was a quick little car, and fun. I also owned a 94 Mustang 5.0, but nothing compares to the 392 Challenger in my experience. When I upgraded from my RT Shaker a year ago, I am glad I did that instead of modding, but to each their own.
Coming from an economy car to one of these is like hopping into a Nascar Stock Car lol.
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For sure!
I agree, speed is subjective depending on our past experiences and if all you've ever driven was a base model Elantra, this should feel like a rocket. I had a 2020 Elantra SE before jumping into a relative's Audi RSQ8 and I felt like I was leaving earth
The 5.7 is still fast, coming from a 392 owner
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I think it’s still fast, funny thing is had it been 10 or 12 years ago the r/t would be a beast I remember when my aunt first got the 300c Chrysler back in 2005 that had 340 horsepower and that was fast as fuck, but nowadays average v6 is putting out 300 horsepower or around that and now a lot of people think that 375 isn’t that fast. I say it is and more than enough power to have fun with.
Finally an objective video. Nobody whining about hellcat this or scatpack that. Look at the car you're reviewing!!!! Is it slow??? In this case NO...there!! Lol. Great content. Liked and subbed.
Thanks Jorge! The R/T is a bit of an under dog, but it takes really well to modifications and can make some pretty decent power!
Went from a 2012 Honda Accord coupe to a 19 charger Rt plus with a mid muffler delete , anyone that says a 5.7 is not enough needs to reevaluate cars in general , this makes it enjoyable to drive even with the fl drivers haha , great vid man
They are super fun cars to drive. The torque down low is great!
They are awesome torque monsters, nailed a 4.8 0-60 w/ a full tank and a passenger (Bone stock)
There will always be a faster car out there. Get something you can afford and make it your own. Cars are meant to be driven at the end of the day and thats what its all about.
Not only that, the R/Ts are just a fun car to drive, tons of torque down low and a great sounding ride that’s decently quick and looks great.
@@TrackPackRT exactly i love my r/t its perfect for me.
Best comment!!
I owned several Challenger R/T's in the past both with the 375hp 5.7 liter engine. Both cars went from 0-60 in under 6 seconds but not by much. I think the weight car hinders it's performance. A 4000 pound car takes a lot of power to get a respectable 0-60 and quarter mile time. If you can afford to buy the Challenget R/T Scat Pack then you'll get a lot more performance from the 6.4 liter hemi (485hp).
To be honest I had a 5.7 and it has potential people really underestimated
It’s always over shadowed by the 6.1 and 6.4, but it’s easy to make a lot of power with a 5.7.
Hella expensive to make fast tho I have a 17 5.7 daytona but it's like 8k for a super charger
@@dudetheguy7893 You don't have to supercharge to make it fast although supercharging is a really cool route to take. With a great cam setup and some headers you'll be sitting in 392 territory powerwise.
Track Pack R/T I don’t agree. Look at R/T life’s channel and build. A great cam and long tubes will not get you scatpack performance or numbers. You will need a stroker kit to compete NA or boost.
Eager Charger the problem with R/T life’s cam is that it was a custom grind from Jay Green. That’s fine and all but anyone who gets a custom grind usually don’t know what the specs of the cam are, or the expected power improvement estimates. I’ll be sharing the results of my HRT stage 2 cam in the coming months, but comp cams is claiming it put down 471 hp on a 5.7 that only had headers and a larger throttle body. If the claims are on the money which I assume they’ve got to be close as comp cams are usually pretty trustworthy there’s a lot of 5.7s out there that will be hurting some feelings.
I feel like what a lot of people forget is that the Challengers have plenty of power and are quick enough to have fun, they’re just heavier than other muscle cars and that plays a big factor
I have an R/T and I absolutely love it. Plenty of power for a daily. Will def be doing a few mods to make it quicker. That engine note with a muffler delete is 🔥.
I got my R/T a month ago and the scatpacks with markups were a $15k price difference. For $15k I'll have a blower pushing 500+ Whp. Just didn't make sense to me to spend $15k more for a 100hp gain
Absolutely. So much you can do to add a lot of extra hp pretty reliably to the 5.7, plus you can have so much fun with it even out of the box.
Just subbed brother. I just purchased a 2019 R/T Challenger and I'm more than satisfied! This video makes me feel even better about my purchase and I absolutely LOVE my car. Now it's time to get my channel off the ground. Thanks for the awesome video 😎
I had a maxima I thought was fast. Went to a 2014 charger r/t. I loved the power and it was fast a.f. I loved the r/t tho
I have an 09 6spd.
Had for 11 yrs.
It's fast enough to get you into and out of trouble!!!!
I have a 2013 challenger RT, it is fast? Sure enough for me...most kids with the “ the RT is slower than the camaro and mustang” yup, that’s for sure, but...my car was bought new, still looks like new, puts a smile on my face every time I drive it...while you already crashed your mustang or camaro and still paying for it...
If I needed a car for a race track, I would have bought it...
Thats right, I totally agree with you👍
I really love the 5.7, I’ve had one for 4 years
They’re great! The sound alone is awesome!
I have 2 now👍
@@TrackPackRT Hemis are what chocolate sounds like.
Loved your reaction when you got the 13 second ticket.. Good job. Just got my challenger love it
I was gone buy a R/T until I saw for ol most the same price Chevy Camaro SS got 455 HP with a 10 speed transmission love that muscle sound with the Pop Pop
John Johnson yea the Challengers definitely aren’t the cheapest of the 3. To be honest all 3 manufactures are making amazing muscle cars right now.
I went to the Dodge Dealer ship looking for a 392 coming from a mustang v6 but all they had in inventory were the R/Ts so I test drove it just to see what it was like , and holy smokes was i surprised of how fast it is. That 395 torque was so addicting . I feel like that car is so underrated and no one can tell me it isn’t fast . Drive it for yourself is all I will say .
Also, I've heard that Dodge tends to list the cars at lower HP for possible insurance reasons. I've seen on a few forums where the R/T gets Dyno tested and they push close to 410hp at the crank. Do you know this to be true?
It's kind of true to a point. I don't know if 410 is really that accurate for a stock 5.7, but I will say this, it is the exact same engine that's in the Ram 1500s. And they rate that engine at 390 hp. Yet the engines are identical and will dyno pretty much the same.
It's TRUE
Its pushes close too 420hp
@@zells8303 That's sick! This thing seems absolutely faster than 375 horses. Check my car out on my channel
The only thing I can't get past with the RT is how unreliable it seems (from doing my research). With MDS an VTT in the 5.7 an 6.4 it just seems like the 6.1 is the all-around better motor for long term use/owning.
So how much exactly does the RT spin and go sideways when you just floor it from a stop or even like 10-15 MPH?? Want to know, and find out for myself so bad, but having a little trouble coming up with the funds anytime soon unfortunately...
I driven a 2018 RT 6 speed. It's pretty exciting to drive, and I love how it has so much low range torque.
That gearing plus the low end torque makes it really snappy!
I found a 2009 5.7 R/T right at 16k with 111k on it. Is that a good deal by todays standards with this inflation going on?
I just got a 2020 R/T with 6000 miles and I love this car!
I been shopping around and I notice many Challengers have misaligned right tail lights. (2015+)
The 5.7 hemi deserves some respect!
Elevation does make a difference. I am a mile high above sea level. Last year at the track I raced a charger state patrol with the 5.7 and ran off and left him. Next race I ran against a 2018 Challenger srt 392. That was a close race. I beat him by .007 sec. Ran 13.3 @ 105 mph. I made some changes during the winter to my 06 gto. Looking to get into the high 12s.
All those guys who get to race at sea level don’t know how good they’ve got it!
@@TrackPackRT A completely different game at elevation.
I went from driving my 18 Charger RT in the Denver area for 3 years to driving it in CT, 300 ft elevation. It feels like I added a 50 shot.
I've only had them as hire cars but I've driven a Mustang GT and most recently a Challenger RT. The Mustang has more power and torque but the Challenger just felt fast all the time. If you floor the Challenger in park it properly twitches on its suspension. I think if you get caught up in the figures you are missing out. Just drive it.
It is NOT slow. It compares equally to the times of the first gen Challenger 426 and 440 engines. If you are not on the track racing, this modern R/T is plenty fast. 89 mid-grade too. No one buys these cars for gas mileage but even that makes the modern R/T quite impressive. I have floored my 2020 R/T less than 10 times since buying it new. There is just no need unless racing. For the average guy/ gal, the R/T is just right. The 400 torque gets you moving real quick!
You’re bang on there. That’s part of the reason the 5.7 is such a popular engine to swap into classic mopars. Similar performance to the top tier halo cars from back in 70s but with modern reliability, durability and fuel economy.
Yeah they might feel close to the same power wise, but everyone always forgets about the suspension in the SRTs and not many 6.1s are stock these days either. So those with RTs are always playing catch-up, and is just the way it is. I'm not taking anything away from them, and are still good cars though 💪🏼😎
Suspension and brakes are a huge upgrade from the base RTs to the SRTs!Once you start getting into that 450 wheel horsepower range it’s kind of a wash anyways between the different engines, as that seems to be a great sweet spot for the power and fun factor. The great thing about all the N/A Hemis is its fairly easy to get them to this power level without affecting the drivability or reliability of the car. Dodge has a killer engine lineup in these cars!
Awesome vid man! I was doing my research on the 5.7 hemi and it looks like on the Dyno it’s pushing 330-350 rwhp on a mustang Dyno bone stock. Do u think that dodge under rated this car? Maybe for insurance purposes? I wanted ur thoughts on it
To be honest I don’t think they under rated it much. The only thing I can say is that the 5.7 in the Challenger is the exact same Hemi that’s in the Rams which are rated at 390 hp. So there’s something off there a little bit. I will say that if you throw on a set of long tube headers even into the stock catback like I did you’ll put around 375 to the wheels which will put you in the same territory as the 6.1 Hemi for one pretty basic mod.
@@TrackPackRT I was actually looking into doing that. And I find it funny how the rams are pushing almost 400. I have a 2018 Ta 5.7 (only mod CAI) do u think I can throw long tubes on it without doing anything else. Thanks
@@julyfishy392 absolutely. With only long tube headers and high flow cats I put down 374 hp to the rear wheels. It really woke the car up big time, even through the stock catback.
I've bought my 2014 Challenger R/T Plus, back in April, 2016. I love my car. Is TorRed, has chrome wheels, chrome fuel cap and a red interior. It look aggressive but, it is by no means a fast car. I can't even out run a Honda Civic, let alone a Subaru Outback. But, it is that classic American, muscle car look that can't be dublicated with other muscle cars.
Naw, you’d beat up on both those cars! A civic type R would be a race though.
I ran a 13.2 with catless midpipes and a radial in my 2018 Dodge Challenger R/T with a 1.9 60 foot, my best 0-60 is a 4.5 seconds but I have the 8 speed which does wonders it’s just the rear gearing that’s a setback!!!
Yea man those 8speed autos are great! Got to drive a Scatpack with an 8 speed and it really was amazing! Those are great times man, get some long tubes on there and you'll be in the 12's all day!
I only can run 5.3-5.4
I had a 5.7 Chrysler 300 and for a sedan it had power with this k&n intake, Flowmaster and new spark plugs. I wouldn't mind having another rt version of dodge or Chrysler.
is it just me or am i waiting for columbus over here to start naming his zombie killing rules?
Rule #2 Double tap.
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The 5.7 HEMI really needs to be upgraded to the power that the 06-10 6.1 Hemi had. (425 HP, 420 Torque)
Agreed. Although by literally only swapping out the stock exhaust manifolds for long tubes and a tune to go with you do hit those numbers.
The 2015-2016 rts ran 350 to the wheels, that's 415-420hp
DON-_- IRAQ I’m not saying your wrong, but where’s your proof? I’m definitely intrigued by your claim though.
I’d say 420 to the crank is a little high for that. An example to look at would be a lot of the 6.1 Hemis that are rated at 425 hp at the crank usually put out around 375 to the wheels stock, just as a comparison.
@@xMarkie I have an rt that runs 350whp
Its like not crazy fast but not crazy slow either.Its a very good daily driver but if you want the speed you just get the 392.The 5.7 is perfect for daily driving.
Really great opinion 👍🏼 my dad has a 5.7 liter v8 with 500 horses and it’s orange and black with a pull bar in the front almost simuliar to general lee it’s pretty cool
Nice!
I love my v6
IM BUYING THE 5.7 NEXT WEEK.
SAVE MY V6 FOR MY SON AS A STARTER
Subscribed after this vid man awesome channel. Can't believe it has so little followers👍
Thanks very much, cheers!
Many of the younger guys will poo poo my comments here, but there is fast and faster and fast enough. My opinion is the Hellcat is outrageously overpowered for the street. The SRT8 has a gas guzzler tax and increased insurance penalty associated with the slight performance improvement over the R/T. The R/T has plenty of performance for fun and could still get one in more trouble than they would care for, if not careful. The R/T delivers performance much more in tune with real world driving demands and even the SXT is plenty for many folks. I love my 2013 R/T 6 speed. I've had it 7 yrs with nary complaint.
It is true, in a Hellcat you can barely get into it before you’re way over the speed limit. They are a ton of fun on the track though. The down low torque on the 5.7 means you can have fun and let loose without having to be quite so careful. Glad you’re enjoying your R/T still, I’ve had mine 11 years and still love it as much as when I got it!
@@TrackPackRT I totally agree with you. Way too many folks fixate on horsepower, understandably because that is the factor the drums have always been beat for, but the real stats of consequence to focus on for the street is torque! 400 # ft of torque is the domain of fun, fun, fun in the Challenger, besides it and the '70-'74 original being among the best looking cars of all time!
The horsepower and torque ratings of the 5.7 were only found in the fastest sports cars some decades ago, the 5.7 is fast. Yes, the Scat Pack is faster but you can't say it's not fast because ithe Hellcat, Redeye or the Demon are faster. You are only going from fast to insanely fast!
Your going from fast to ludicrous speed...😂 My lil Sister recently sold me her 06 Charger RT with 90k for 3k and for such a heavy pig it's insanely quick to me. I have Dart I used to drive with a 318 with a lot of basic bolt ons and this thing is on another level and the Dart was pretty quick for a factory 69 318 with minor goodies.
It’s fast for what it is! Nice video man.
The thing I love about the 5.7's the most is how well they respond to mods. Unlike the 6.4's, the 5.7 has a lot of room to grow while still being reliable and a great driver.
This is for sure making me contenplate the 5.7 challenger and/or charger or sticking with my turbo 4 roots. It dont take much though to get the 5.7 to scat comparison considering unlike the 6.4 the 5.7 is choked to all hell from factory. With a better header and exhaust, ported or 6.4 manifold, maybe a cam, and a 3.09 gear with a tire and a tune and its a fun monster
Definitely a ton of potential in the 5.7!
Hello, sir. I have a question. 3.6 engine need to change the circuits? because the 5.7 does not
Sorry I don't know if I understand the question. What do you mean circuits?
@@TrackPackRT i was hear 5.7 hemi engine dont have chains but 3.6 engine have chains or not?? i speak about engine chains sir.
@@liudasjankauskas601 if you’re talking about a timing chain, both of them have metal chains. The one in the 3.6 should last the life of the engine.
@@TrackPackRT understand. Thanks. 3.6 pentastar engine have a serious problem? if i want buy dodge challenger which engine choice better 3.6 or 5.7 ?
I had two 5.7s Challenger, one was a red line edition with the 6 speed manual, the other was an automatic Shaker 5.7 (which I totaled), after buying a 2018 GT with the Performance Pack along with a used C6 vette, I'm back in a 2020 Scat pack manual. I had no issue with the 5.7, sure it was not the fastest car out there, neither is my Scat Pack, point being is they both are good cars, good engines. I'm more into the Challenger because of the styling and retro look. That 2018 GT was a good bit quicker that my 5.7, actually test faster than my Scat Pack (I don't have the 1320 package), but in all the Challengers I felt like I was in something more substantial than a GT (not hating on the GT, but is has a different feel).
The Hemis have better downlow torque not only because of the bigger displacement but because it’s a pushrod V8 rather than the DOHC Coyote. DOHC motors need to rev to make that power. The scatpacks are great! Sounds like you’ve had some cool rides.
I've been looking at picking up an R/t on the used market because they have come down in price quite a bit in the past year or so. I looked up some stock dyno runs of challengers and chargers with the 5.7 and they seem to make about 330hp and 350 lbs-ft torque at the wheels, which really doesn't sound like a lot on paper. I still need to test drive it some more but its winter here now with tons of snow on the ground and they are all in summer tires so no thanks. Gotta wait a few months.
Yea that’s roughly what an R/T will put down to the wheels. It makes for a pretty fun daily driver. With the torque it makes and where it sits in the power band, it gives you lots of pull from a stop and enough power to shred your tires and do donuts to your hearts content.
I am happy with the 5.7 in my RAM 1500 (single cab). I impressed a street bike owner once coming off a rolling start.
No, its not slow. Its just not as fast as some. There are things the R/Ts can do that the competition can't. What do you you want out of your car?
The R/T is definitely in an interesting spot in the market, it’s competitors don’t really have a V8 in a comparable trim level.
I have 06 charger rt and the 345 is so under rated for sure
Is the 5.7 slow? That's relative. the better question is, is it underpowered compared to the rest of the lineup including the 3.6l. and that would be a yes
I disagree with you there. It is more underpowered than the 6.4 and up but that's because it's a trim level below them, that makes sense. I've you've had a chance to drive the 3.6 vs driving the 5.7 there is a TON of difference there, and I'm not hating on the 3.6, I have it in my Wrangler and love that engine. Not only that with just a couple mods and spending around $1200-1500 in mods you're looking at about 425 flywheel hp in a totally reliable daily driver. The modding potential for the 5.7 is huge, not so much for the 3.6. Depends on how you look at it and what you want though I suppose.
I agree the 5.7 should be the new base package it’s no longer look at like a big dawg if it’s not a srt then it’s not relevant in the car world
I might be kinda late to the party but, the 5.7 is a great car for more of a everyday use. But for comparison, the new 1LT Camaro comes out the box with 455hp starting at 35K with a manual.
Kinda hard to beat, or even the Mustang GT for a bit more. 460hp from a 5.0 kinda shows that displacement alone isnt everything....
What i mean is, its a bit underpowered in the V8 class next to the competition.
Yea the mopars are always more expensive than the comparable Chevs and Fords it seems. Same goes for aftermarket support. You’re definitely not getting into a Challenger because it’s the cheapest fast car for the money. The 5.7 also fills a market segment the competition doesn’t really have a model for, it would be like if the Camaro had a 5.3 version before the SS.
I enjoy driving my wife's Charger R/T as much as my Mustang GT and my Challenger 392 widebody.
I have a 2014 rt 6 speed gal to see you giving manuals their do
The manuals are great, they are so much fun to drive and pull so hard with the higher gearing!
I can hit the rev limiter in mine before I even hit the highways on the on ramp here in arizona
I've owned a 6 spd 2009 R/T for about 2 weeks now, and I can definitely say I don't feel the punch as much as I did in my previous car, a 2014 3.7 Mustang. I enjoy the looks and the sound better on the Challenger, but it's just so damn heavy that the 375hp somehow still feel underwhelming going through the gears.
The 5.7 definitely feels like it runs out of breath on the top end of the rpm range.
@@TrackPackRT spot on
Love love love RTs.
The FCA folks are not keeping up with the competition with the 5.7 Hemi in cars and Ram trucks. The cars don't have the short headers, cam, Apache heads or dual phase intakes that could easily be adapted from the 6.4 Hemi and would push the 5.7 to an easy 435 HP. The trucks are lagging behind as well and need cam, heads and exhaust manifold upgrades to compete with the Ecoboost F150s. The Ram is nicer than every other half ton truck in every regard except power. There is only one V8 engine choice currently and the 6.4 version in the 2500 series trucks sucks. The half ton truck needs an optional V8 in the 465 to 500 HP range right now. The LH cars need an all wheel drive twin turbo 3.6 Pentastar of at least 450 HP for civilian as well as law enforcement sales.
Charles Marshall the eco boost Fords are interesting because they don’t really have direct competition and have gotten pretty popular with truck owners because they seem to perform well. The next gen of engines will be interesting as I’m sure the lineup will change drastically.
What oil are you using in your RT? Just curious
Pennzoil Synthetic is my favourite.
@@TrackPackRT Gotcha. I've heard Amsoil is pretty good for these 5.7s to.
I bought my 5.7 as a test vehicle. I've always had 4x4 Ram trucks and never had a car so this was a test. I really enjoy my 5.7 R/T and its extremely comfortable. But, the 6.4 Scat Pak is where I'm looking at. These 5.7's are great starting point but that's all it is.
James Kidd The thing I love about the 5.7 is how much potential is there to pick up 80-100 hp pretty easily without going the super charger route or changing the reliability the 5.7 is known for. I do love the 6.4s too though! Great right out of the box performance!
Had a 5.7 single cab ram with the 8 speed that ol' 5.7 wasn't a slouch at all the thing just kept pulling and pulling it didn't stumble and lug between gears like chevies do, if they gave the 5.7 the same intake and cam that the 6.4 there would be little point too the 6.4 pretty sure you can get 80-100 horses from the cam intake and a dyno tune
Cam, headers and dyno tune absolutely. The intake will get you some extra low end torque, but overall peak power won't really change with it. Adds a fair bit more under the curve that you can really feel though. I'm sitting in that 80-100 hp over stock mark right now with the stock intake still on. The 5.7 really is a great platform no matter what you want to do with it!
When you consider that the 7L 426 street Hemis we’re running mid thirteens with 425hp during the late sixties, and were probably lighter than today’s challengers, I don’t think you can call the 5.7 Hemi slow! The only thing Dodge needs to do to make them quicker is reduce weight and get rid of those awful 3.07 rear gears that come with the automatic cars, try a 3.91 instead and see a big difference!
Times change. 13 was fast in the 70s but now it's mediocre.
Totally agree with both points. I love old cars and still have an 1981 Trans Am. Today’s performance really is next level. And I have the 3.91 gears, they’re a lot of fun once I got rid of the wheel hop!
I can agree about the 1/4 miles times seeming average , but also comparing a 5.7 to a scat pack or Hellcat is unfair. Again, if Dodge reduced the weight on these cars and made a decent rear axle ratio available, especially in the automatic cars, they would be a lot more competitive against cars in their class. The 5.7 is a more “corporate” engine than it’s larger brothers and could use more help. From what I see in various videos, this engine responds very well to a variety of aftermarket mods, and is a better choice for a daily driver than the more powerful Dodge engines. It all depends on what you’re looking for in a car, If you want to be king of the street or strip, by all means get a Hellcat or Demon, to each his own!
A year ago I test drove a 2010 r/t then a 2016 scat pack I was not giving up the extra money for the 2016. Just wasn’t enough difference for the cost. I love my R/T no regrets. I drove a 2020 r/t last week. If the price drops again...
Just bought a 2010 rt 5 speed auto for a daily driver. I actually really enjoy it. Pulls decent, comfy car and looks good. I buy and sell tons of modded high horsepower stuff and the rt is fine imo. Its a fun car highly recommend, few bolt ons and tune it'll be just right.
Absolutely!
Looking at a 2010 challenger RT with 113K not sure if i should grab it or not. I totaled my 2015 charger RT. I was also looking at the Chrysler 300C with the hemi. Any recommendations 👀
good vid nice to see someone from Edmonton im in Fort sask. See you on the streets
You bet! Or at the track!
Im also from Alberta I agree with you the rt is overshadowed by the scatpacks the hellcats redeyes and the demons the rt is a good platform
Lots of fun can be had in an R/T!
Great video! ✌🏻🏁
They’re slow cars compared to the competition like the gt and ss, should at least keep up with those which they don’t not even a little bit, but for personal track numbers they’re fun cars
They’re not really meant to compete with the SS or GT, that’s the Scatpacks territory. They don’t really have a competition bracket to compare to. Faster and torquier than every companies entry level cars but not as fast as their V8 trim levels.
13.4sec stock 5.7 shaker in Texas. Dead stop takeoff would spin the tires nonstop. But not a lot of power at highway speed tho. All the torque is down low.
Absolutely. That’s where the Hemis shine is down low. The 6.4s breathe better up top because of the extra HP but they still all are in their element off the line. Completely different from the 5.0 mustangs which don’t have much power down low but make lots up top.
I love my 5.7
Very fun car but to compete with Mustang GT and Camaro SS you need at least a Scat Pack. Something to consider. If you don't care about that though it's a very fun, excellent sounding, v8.
In stock form you’re absolutely right, it’s the underdog out of that pack. One of the cool things about the 5.7 is how well it responds to mods. It’s a car that you can get when you’re on a budget and later on throw a couple things at it and be right with the SS’s and Scats. I think if you have a bigger budget off the hop it definitely makes more sense to get the Scatpack.
@@TrackPackRT true that sky's the limit with mods for the R/T
should i keep my 2013 camaro rs or should i get a 2010 rt?
anyone’s opinion can help thanks
I have a 18 f8 charger Daytona and it doesn’t feel slow.
Great channel!! AND you have an EVIL DEAD shirt on!! You rock!! Subscribed!!
Haha thanks man, Evil Dead is my fav!
@@TrackPackRT love that one!! I’m a BIG horror fan - I even make little horror /gore flicks on my other channel. Anyway, keep up the good content!
@@TrackPackRT - by the way, I see you made a great video on the V6 engine. I have a 392 charger but I love the challenger and am looking at one to daily and share the miles with my scat. Would you recommend the 5.7 or the V6 challenger?
@@GuysTalkingCars personally I would go with the 5.7 even if all thing were equal just for the sound alone. The 5.7 has a ton of more torque than the 3.6 but if you already have a 392 you aren’t necessarily looking for that. I’d say it comes down to a couple factors. How important is gas mileage to you? How important is sound to you? Do you need to drive this car through a winter (real winter with snow)? If you need AWD then the 3.6 is your only option. The 3.6 gets 4 mpg better city and about 7 highway better than the 5.7 so if that’s really important, that will determine what makes the most sense to you. If you still want to have some fun driving this around with the extra torque it provides maybe the 5.7 would be better.
@@TrackPackRT great insight thank you. It doesn’t seem like the MPG difference is that compelling when comparing the two. And I think having a challenger without the sound - - well, I think it would be missed. Ive seen exhaust setups for the V6 that are pretty good - but not a v8. I do live in CA - so snow or harsh winters aren’t really a factor. Even though the 5.7 is gonna cost a bit more, seems it may be the more satisfying challenger . . .
No! It’s faster than the original even! 30-90 is what counts and the looks and SOUND!
They sound great!
Is the 5.7 hemi slow? Well depends what you consider slow? Compared to the Mustang and Camaro its little slow straight line or curves. That being said I like the Challenger over the other 2. I do own a 5.7 hemi in a truck. :)
Quick enough in stock form to have a lot of fun with and blow your tire budget for sure! haha
@@TrackPackRT specially if you have a lsd!
I love my 5.7 DODGE RIDER FOR LIFE 🖤 ❤
Hells yea!
Cool video 👍
honestly a 5.0 is definitely faster than a challenger 5.7 rt but i just love the looks of a challenger more of a muscle car look and it’s still pretty damn fast
I have an 06 charger rt. It’s not slow. The problem is that the cars in which dodge puts these engines in are just heavy
They could stand to lose maybe a couple pounds.
I bought a 2018 Rt man do I regret it slow asf 😑
Not slow!! I have a 2016 RT with a 6-speed manual and it's definitely not a slow car, especially having the 390 gear
The m6's are definitely snappy down low!
I have a 2008 300c long tube bigger throttle body cold air intake diablo tune nice 3'' exhaust runs pretty good
Stock for stock The newer Rt challengers are about the same if not little faster then STI's, 350zs and other little quick cars everyone thinks are so quick!!
Absolutely, that A8 puts you at a big advantage over the older A5's or even M6's like mine. Throw some long tubes on there and a tune and you've got a really quick car that's incredibly fun to drive!
The homies ecoboost mustang 19’ kills 5.7
@@leninguzman6181 you didn't notice how I excluded mustangs? Mustangs are quicker than most cars regardless but they still look like a Hyundai or Toyota or something stupid like that!!!
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Scat pack was the problem
Cool shirt! Need to get one.
Love my 2018 RT charger my love the power & those cars are not slow
They have power in the right places, loads of torque down low, makes them very fun to drive on the street!
RT can be modded to be faster than a Scat easily for the price difference really with these prices today.
What mods would you do?
My fiancee is in sales at my local dodge dealer and a challenger is likely my next car. Been doing the R/T vs Scat Pack shuffle in my mind. The snowball effect kicks in when I check a couple option boxes and My "affordable" R\T creeps into base Scat Pack price territory. Insurance rates might win the war for the R/T though.
If it makes more financial sense to get the R/T for you it’s not so bad, the 5.7 jumps up in power big time with just a few mods. You can add power when you have extra cash for some parts down the road while at the same time getting the option packages you want.
In the long run it will cost you much more to get the same performance as a 6.4. I ditched my 5.7 for the 6.4 and was the best decision I made.
Eager Charger I disagree with you on that. Lots of power to be had with not much $ spent. However there’s nothing wrong with a Scatpack or even better a Hellcat. They’re both awesome. If I had $70k sitting around I would buy one in a second!
Well like I said in my area the RT is cheaper to insure. After combining the cost of insurance with the price of the vehicle A fully loaded RT ends up with a lower cost of ownership then a base model scat pack
I'm also not racing anybody. It's more about having something fun to drive with a manual transmission a V8 and rear wheel drive
Anyone can claim something is "fast" it is subjective term and only applicable to how the user defines it. I have a 09 300c with just dynomax race bullets swapped out for mid mufflers on stock 245 tires and Ive ran a best of 5.53sec 0-60 in a 4500lb car is impressive to me. When i had a 05 350z base model with intake, exhaust, dyno tuned run around the same 0-60 time and or ran a 14.0 @100mph in the 1/4mile. The 5.7l eagle motors are exceptional beast for the money in terms of power and mpg given the power they have.
Anthony K. Absolutely my man! 5.5 is not bad at all for a 300c that is basically stock. Cheers!
What the name of the song in your intro?
It’s my good friends Royal Tusk, also from Edmonton. The song is called “Aftermath” check it out, it’s a great song!
Track Pack R/T ok 👌👍
I love my Charger R/T AWD. I actually raced a Grand Cherokee SRT and somehow I beat him. I’m glad I chose the Charger as my very first car
AWD with the 5.7 is huge! With both of you having AWD you likely took advantage of the 1000 lbs less weight you have to make up the difference.
No matter which way you slice it, what we have is a nice v8, but at the end of the day it's the same motor they put in their worktrucks. It's better than most cars but there are a LOT of bigger fish
That always seems like such a strange thing to say about the 5.7 hemi and I've heard people say it before. Yes it's in Dodge's trucks (so is the 6.4 btw) but why does that make it not good? The 5.7 small block chevy is looked at as legendary, yet it was standard in a ton of their trucks as well. You are right there are a lot bigger fish and crazier engines out there, but if you're shopping for a Hellcat Redeye, or a ZR1 Vette or a new GT500 the R/T isn't even on your radar. What's cool about the 5.7 is it doesn't take much to make it just as fast as the 6.4 which everyone goes crazy about the performance of. No matter which Hemi you've got they all kick ass.
@@TrackPackRT I agree with the last statement, my car has mufflers deleted, and my next 2 steps are going to be fatter tires and long tubes/tune. I love my car, but from the factory (which is what most people care about) it is slow compared to performance cars, because the 5.7 is not a performance motor, it's a work truck motor. The 6.4 is from the factory meant for performance as well as the 6.2
Let’s be real, a 5.7 is better for everyday driving than a hell kitty or demon. Unless you live in rural road. Most of these hell kittens get sent back to nursery school by vettes with less torque anyway
Well a 5.7 will get better gas milage for sure. One thing that shocked me about driving a Hellcat is how smooth and easy it was just to drive around town. It felt more smooth than my R/T but I partially attribute that to my car having much steeper 3.91 gears in the rear. However once you open up the throttle in that Hellcat....man what a car!
In the grand scheme of musclecars the 5.7 R/T 375 HP blows away decades of 70s, 80s, 90s and early 2000s cars. And even as powerful as most 60s muscle cars. Only when comparing it to 2015 and up Scats, Cats, Plaids, GT500s, C8, BMW 5s etc, does it start to be considered a slower car. Enjoy the heck out of that R/T most of the people on the planet never had a car that powerful or quick.
@@BBBILLY86 well said.
If I daily drive a mazda3, I’m assuming a net will throw me back in my seat and feel like a super car. Never owned a sports car.
The downlow torque will be a drastic change for you for sure!