6.4 Scatpack VS. 5.7 R/T .. Is the Scatpack Worth the Money?
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- Check out the latest comparison between the 2019 Dodge Scatpack Challenger and the 2020 Challenger R/T. Find out how the 5.7 liter hemi stack up against it's big brother the 6.4. Which one is right for you?
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I’m sure it’s been brought up, but a couple of things:
1. The brakes are completely different. It’s not 4 pistons in the RT, it’s two. The scat pack brembo calipers are 4 piston. The brakes alone if you were to throw those on the RT would be 3/4K dollars. That’s almost half the price different already.
2. You mentioned tires. Knuckles and spindles are performance oriented on the scat and the other SRT models, to handle wider tires and the Brembo calipers and lines. The RT knuckles and spindles aren’t constructed as such, it’s the same as the V6 trim levels, so you’d have to invest in either some spacers or a big change in ofset to safely run larger meat. If you factor this cost in, new wheels (alone) with the proper offset to run performance tires at 275/40/20 in all four corners would run about 1k. We’re sitting at 4/5k added on if you were to upgrade the RT yourself.
3. Obviously the suspension. Tougher ride in the scat, you’d really need the adaptive suspension in the Hellcat trims to get the comfier ride on the street. However, the scat bilsteins are way better from a performance perspective, and handle the weight well. Whether it’s fixed or adaptive, they’re just better. Better valving, better tuning, I’d argue they’d even last longer. To put the fixed scat suspension on an RT (Bilstein B12 kit) would be 600 bucks or so. We’re sitting at a 4600/5600 dollar increase on the RT.
4. You talked about fuel, but just mentioned that the 6.4 will drink more. It will, absolutely true. However, you left out what it will drink. The scats are 93 octane ONLY, the 5.7 is recommended for 89, but you could even run 87 if you wanted. Your average cost in gas to run the scat per year would be around 2700 dollars or so, the RT would be around 2k. So 700 dollars more a year for the scat pack, multiply that by 6 years (assuming you keep the car), that’s a delta of $4300 over a 6 year period. So let’s be nice, and say that our delta of cost between the two is roughly $300 in favor of the RT as far as total cost. So let’s take that out, and $5300 added to the RT total cost.
5. The interior option list on the scat isn’t even close, it’s obviously much better equipped. If you were to try and add the same kind of seats in your own RT, that’s at least 1k bucks, and for the performance pages, you’ll need a tazer, so add another 300. That’s 1300 bucks, let’s add that on....and we’re up to $6300 over the RT price.
6. But here’s the crux of the matter: the power plant. Your delta in power of the scat over RT is over 110 hp at the crank. To get there in the RT, you’d have to boost or really go nuts on the NA portion of the 5.7. Sooooooo...that’s 10k. Now we’re at $16,300 over the price of the RT, and there was a 10k delta with them brand new. And we’re not done yet.
7. Drivetrain. LSD versus open diff. The RT has the open diff, the scats and up have awesome LSDs...AND beefier axles. With the extra power in the RT if you were to add it, you’d almost have to have new axles....and if you didn’t, probably should never take it to the track. If you were to throw those in the cost mix, that’s at minimum an extra 3k. Now we’re at a $19300 delta price increase on the RT. Yikes.
So, buying the cars brand new, yes the scat pack is 10k more than the RT. However, the scat is easily the best value brand new. It’s actually 20k more car than the RT, available for 10k more upfront brand new. Not that anybody asked, but the Hellcat new is what, 20-30k more than the scat, but given the upgrades, is about 35k/40k more car than the scat packs.
ETA: the actual best value out there today, in Mopar world, is a 15k mile or lower 2015/2016 hellcat. Those are running about 10k more than a scat with similar mileage used, but it’s 30k more car.
Anyways, great video, your 6.4 to Hellcat cost conversion video was great, but you should really do a 5.7 conversion to 6.4 video. There’s, uh, certain UA-cam channels out here that really don’t convey how much that cost actually runs, and you’d do a good job of explaining it.
This comment needs more views/likes. I agree about the 2015/16 Hellcats🤙🏾🔥
20k minus the price of the oem R/T parts. So we back to 10k. Lol. I get that the scatpack is better. But we talking insurance too. Repairs since its a perfomance car. We back to "get whichever one you can afford" still the R/T still an amazing commuter.
Great reply, well written and a number of facts I agree with. The brakes and suspension alone (including larger wheels and tires) would steer me toward a scat over the R/T. The dynamics package is something I am really fond of.
You mentioned Scats can only run 93 octane. I've heard there's supposedly ECU fuel maps out there that can allow them to run (okay) on 87. Is that true?
HPG45 prolly would run “okay” but if you really can’t afford to pay the price of 93 then that’s when you should ask yourself weather or not that car is right for you
I have respect for the 5.7, but go big or go home. If you can comfortably afford it. If not, no shame in owning a 5.7
Agreed 🤜🔥🔥
Plenty of things you can do to the 5.7 to make it even better
Then Viper or nothing
Is this the real Bruce Willis? My favourite punch guy!
Agreed Bruce 🤝
The R/T is like the 383 back in the day. There were more powerful options but nobody ever complained about the power it had.
340's were known as giant slayers in their day. A 5.7 is just like the old 340's. Steel rods and a turbo and your running with the 440's
Sadly in this day in age its not.
I remember the 383s-very strong with the 4 speed Hurst shifter snaking from the floor!
rt are kinda slow but its perfect for a daily driver.
as far as i am concerned the 5/7 is like a v6 to the mopar community lol. the v6 is a forgettable 4 cylinder to them. i really dont get it. i guess if dodge did a dual turbo instead of natural for the base sxt it would sell more. seriously, the mopar community would take it much more serious, same with ford i heard someone say they should've out the raptor engine the Taurus sho, i agree. as well as doing a natural yet tuned v8 for it instead of the regular v6 they did have. that would've been sum to see
So we just gonna glaze over how he says “alecantra seats” 😂😂😂
A-la cantara 😂
Thank you for pointing that out..
I came to the comments for this reason😂
Lol was combing the comment section just to see who mentioned it.
Exactly what I came to the comments for!!
My R/T is most definitely enough power for me
I upgraded from a 5.7 to a scat pack. Paid in the low 30s for a base model. not a single regret.
I have a base model scat pack. It has everything I want and nothing I dont. I still need to personally thank the guy who hit me in my 2015 ram 1500 totalling that truck on my way to trade in towards my scat pack. A month later after my trucks total loss was finalized I went to the dealership more cash in hand than I would have trading it in that day. And as an added bonus the dealership dropped the price on that car while I was in waiting. Walked out the door paying $33,195 Somethings happen for a reason haha. I do love my scat pack.
Glad your loving that Scatpack 👍
@@RacerX9 yes sir, and enjoying your channel. Thanks for the time and effort you put into making these vids. UA-cam is my tv.
What year is your Scatpack and where did you get it? I haven't found one for that price in the Georgia area. Thanks.
@@rangered2010 2019 in IL, got it in August
There’s always something faster so just enjoy your ride don’t care if it’s a. V6 ,v4 turbo , 5.7 ,6.4 , etc just have fun enjoy your ride because at the end of the day there’s always something faster
That’s how i see anything i drive. If I’m comfortable and enjoy my car, I’m happy
Especially those V4 turbos man. The v4 turbos are really slept on. They’re so rare but I raced one once and it smoked my Lexus GS-F. Seriously fast
There's no V4, it's I4, they are inline
No such thing as a v4
Just get a viper
The 5.7 is not some gutless wonder it has more than enough power to get yourself into plenty of trouble. Agree with your comparison of these two cars. I am looking at buying a Challenger and drove both cars and your review is dead on. Both are fun cars.
372 hp is fast. It’s not blazing death ringer fast but it’s plenty to have fun. I have plenty of fun bopping around winding mountain roads in my 260 hp Avalon
I've owned 2 5.7 hemis one a 14 challenger rt and the other 14 charger rt I just bought a week ago these are the only vehicles I've ever gotten speeding tickets with🤣🤣
Ever price the same kind of tires on the rear of a Scat? Doing smokey burnouts not only get you negatively noticed by not just the police, but replacing rear tires once every 6 months to a year will get old real soon.
I have been working my way up through the performance chain, the 5.7 (my first challenger) was a good car and I'm glad I started there. Plenty of power, comfortable car. I've owned a Vette and a 2020 Scat Pack now, but if my financial situation did not improve, I would have been very content with 5.7 Shaker that I had. In fact when I get car rentals when traveling that is what I request.
Just got a 2019 Challenger Scatpack Widebody, I pick it up tomorrow, so damn stoked!
FlawlessPro xx how do you like it bro?
Let's hear that opinion!
@@isaacrobles1780 So i have owned the car for 1 week offically today. Coming from a v6 charger its a HUGE difference. Its insanely fast and i love it. I also feel like im driving a tank, its so badass. Ive gotten compliments at the gas station which im not used to. The technology is actually very impressive and im not sure if all challengers have it but i have heated and ventilated seats which is very nice. I thought i would modify the exhaust but honestly, i love its sound and when in sport/track mode it opens it up anyway and makes it sound even better.
@@mackm3875 So i have owned the car for 1 week offically today. Coming from a v6 charger its a HUGE difference. Its insanely fast and i love it. I also feel like im driving a tank, its so badass. Ive gotten compliments at the gas station which im not used to. The technology is actually very impressive and im not sure if all challengers have it but i have heated and ventilated seats which is very nice. I thought i would modify the exhaust but honestly, i love its sound and when in sport/track mode it opens it up anyway and makes it sound even better.
@@isaacrobles1780 one thing i hate that i learned the hard way is that if your in the auto mode (basically economy mode) if you switch the gear shifter into the place to activate the paddles, you CANNOT use the paddles in economy mode. (dumbass me ripped it and went to switch to second gear on the paddle and it WOULD not shift up, scared the shit out of me). You can however setup a custom mode to your liking and i basically setup an economy mode EXCEPT i activated the paddles with it. learned my lesson.
Man, I´m about to buy a Challenger, watching your videos is helping me to get a better idea of each model. Thanks for making this videos, best regards!
This is a very well rounded and objective review of both engines. Bravo sir! Many 6.4 or hellcat guys crap on the 5.7 but not everyone needs more power and it's always good to have people be aware of that when discussing both engine types.
Dark Illusions Films .. thank you my friend
Was originally getting a R/T for around 32k new but looked around found my 17 scat pack for the same and totally went for it loved it at first sight ...for me definitely worth it
Nice.. hope your loving that car 👍
@@RacerX9 Thank you smiles per gallon :)
32k... wow thats a steal. Im getting quotes around 45k
i imported my 2019 R/T to germany and for here it's a huge engine, bigger than most truck engines :)
Imagine a Hellcat... illegal
Moin, ist halt echt so, jeder der mich fragt was da für nen Motor drinne ist schüttelt dann mit dem Kopf. Ein Traum das Auto.
Good for you brother!! Enjoy!!! America salutes you!!
@@Carlos.Rivera the hellcat is not illegal, just very expensive here
I bet you get alot of attention in that thing. Have fun!
I’ve been looking for the perfect challenger to get for the past two years and your videos really help me find the one I want to pick up in the next couple of months. Thanks for the great content.
Thank you Brad.. Glad to help
It took me 6 months of searching to find my almost perfect one. Out of a list of about 10 things one of them was the destroyer gray color and with everything else I wanted I just couldn't find that perfect package so I ended up going for a black one which is pretty classic and will be a good color forever and I don't regret it. I thought if I keep searching I'm going to drive myself crazy and if I get the car now I'll start enjoying it immediately because who knows what tomorrow will bring. I've had it for about 10 months and I drive it all the time especially at night just for fun and I've never done that with any car I've ever owned. I'm talking driving four five nights a week just for fun. My advice to you is don't wait for perfection just get something as close as possible and pull the trigger. In my situation I figure in about 5 years the car is going to need a paint job and if I still really want to do it I'll paint it destroy your grand and satisfy that one thing that was missing but if I dig the black in 5 years I'll leave it.
Lol the shade with the multiple “Little R/T” quotes lol
Davon Stevens ... it is just a term I use! It’s not meant to be literal .. I say this little hellcat.. demon.. etc as well 👍
RT is plenty fast n fun enough! Decent gas can put any fuel grade in it n save money haha
The R/T can definitely be a fun car to drive
Blake Turner right I have one and I’m cool with it. Fully loaded. It’s fast enough for me lol. Shit I barely go anywhere anyway lol
I'm in Houston right now with my 2019 R/T 5.7. On the trip over from Alabama I got 26.2 mpg on the interstate. Good ride on the road, plenty of juice for everyday driving and decent economy. Pretty happy with it.
Fast enough until you try to race a newer GT or SS, my 392 stomp on them but I've seen how those GT and SS do 5.7s and they basically make them look like they are V6.
Now that the GT and SS have the new A10 they can even beat stock 392s, so I've been contemplating getting a Hellcat and do pulley, e85 and maybe nitrous just to keep stomping on Mustangs and Camaros without issues.
Theres always someone with more money to spend on their hotrod than you. I dont race mine, drive it daily and its comfy on a cross country.
I live in Los Angeles and upgrading to a Scatpack would be completely pointless. I can't even use all the power the RT has. The traffic is frustrating.
Move to Texas or the Midwest!
Kidding
Try the 10 or 110 after 10pm
Gotta love that LA traffic 👍
Weeknight driving in Los Angeles is the best. If you had the aftermarket Demon widebody kit along with aftermarket exhaust, you wouldn't need a SCAT pack
Google 90 freeway and thank me later.
Appreciate the detail and your review and the breakdown of how the two cars perform on the road
I've got a 2019 5.7 and I love it. Would have liked that boost in power on the scat but it holds it's own.
5.7 gang! Love my 2015 RT.. aftermarket exhaust + CAI and she sounds great
dFuZedx327 what exhaust did you get? I jus got a resonator & muffler delete
Have 2016 5.7 Shaker Plus, CAI, Long Tubes with High flow cats, Full Cat Back, Custom Tune, Hellcat Air Catcher Induction Kit, Strut Braces, 9" 275 in front 10" 305 in rear
Next either stroker kit or supercharger
BLACKHEAT1028 how much was all that???
BLACKHEAT1028 and what is the power gains? I’m trying to get my R/T to atleast 420 HP.
@@bryangalvan8488 😂😂
When he starts driving, he starts using Scat Pack and R/T interchangeably on the same first car.
He was on a pill this morning
Great video. A lot of us were waiting for the comparison. Thanks. Thumbs up
Thank you Derrick
Thanks for the comparison, really enjoy your videos and the honest comparison.
Thank you Steve
I love my manual 2017 RT, it's a great weekend driver and it still puts a smile on face after 2 years of ownership. Plenty enough power for me.
Absolutely Bill.. R/T is a great package 👍
Great video! I used to have a slightly older 5.7 that was a lot of fun, but got rear-ended. So I "had" to upgrade ;) One thing that some people might be interested in is that the 5.7 has softer suspension (adjustable), but the 6.4 sure is fun (and loud). BTW when you first started driving the 5.7 in this video, you mentioned "Scat Pack R/T" but it was just the standard R/T.
Thank you Jon.. yes I meant to say challenger R/T lol.. brain cramp 😂
Just purchased my Challenger scat pack yesterday… such a fun car to drive🖤
Great video. I love my 392 charger and I am looking forward to getting the new widebody in a few months. I just cant decide on what color will look best or at least better than our destroyer gray option.
B B .. thank you my friend.. the new widebody Scatpack is really sharp
I have a 5.7 Daytona and found when driving the 6.4 when I bought mine the 6.4 had issues getting power down. Also 6.4 felt nose heavy.Plus beyond that price, insurance, gas that hurt the 6.4. Plus you are looking at a base RT my Charger has all the modes. Plus living in the city cant use the extra power either. The biggest factor too was with the active exhaust the 5.7 sounded better. So for me the 5.7 won on all counts because I don't go to the drag strip.
Sounds like that R/T is just right Dale.. glad your enjoying that beast 👍
Finally someone with common sense
I would love to see a drag race of all the different 2020 Challenger V8 models. It would be interesting to see the difference in 0-60 times and 1/4 mile times.
Yes it would .. perhaps I can figure something out on that 👍
@@RacerX9 definitely love to see that. Would be fun.
@Bubba Gumpz_Scrimpz i see 5.7 hitting 12 to high 11 with a few mod i dont think is slow maybe stock yeah but once u put a few modification on it forgetting about it
I had a 5.7 and currently have a 6.4 (both 2016's). My best 0-60 on the 5.7 was 5.4s. The 6.4 0-60 was 4.2s. Both cars were stock. The v6 would be over six seconds 0-60 (6.2-6.3s?). I couldn't advise on the 1/4 mile on any of these. Hellcats aren't much faster than the 6.4 on a 0-60 due to trying to put that power down to the road. After 60 mph, the HC would walk the 6.4 (obviously). Someone did this line up a couple years ago. As fast as some of these cars are now, 0-60 should be dropped in favor of 0--100. lol
1/8 mile on the street. The street is quite the equalizer for overpowered, undertired cars. The only car that's made me think twice about going with a 5.7 was a Cadillac sedan. I had no idea before then that Cadillac was building missiles
Another great video you always show great detail in your videos makes for enjoyable viewing.
Thank you my friend.. much appreciated
No, it isn't. I've had an SRT 392, now a Scat Pack Widebody, and in between a T/A Plus with all options sans sunroof. Hands down the T/A was the best, most enjoyable, greatest sounding (simple mid muffler delete and it was the meanest), most comfortable (swapped on Charger LEO steelies with chrome rings), most admired and of course most economical of all my Challengers. If it hadn't been totaled by a truck running a stop sign I'd be a happy camper. And I tweak, tune and modify my cars, to the point of using VCM editor to modify tables in the ECM/TCM and pulling the stock suspension out and replacing it with my own formula that includes custom Viking double adjustable shocks, to get a very comfortable but exciting ride on any paved road. And on my latest I put very nice Continental 315's.
TA Plus was still the best. And in the future, once this scat pack accrues some value, I will take my customizations off, sell it, and find another T/A Plus with no sunroof. (my current widebody has a sunroof and the ceiling is thus too low, I have to lean the seat back more than I'd like and my hair still rubs the roof so I wear a baseball cap.
The excitement in a muscle car is looks, sound, interior space and running up on limits til it feels dangerous. That's the thrill. With a ScatPack or Hellcat and hard suspension you have to go wildly illegal and endanger folks around you to get to that limit. So mostly you cannot. But in my T/A I could go thru my town a 1/4 of a mile, shifting manually, taking it up to rev limiter and decelerating til the cops come because they think you are racing (this happened once), and it is just the true joy of a muscle car. My widebody makes it all too tame and easy, so it isn't half as exciting even though it is faster and better planted.
I have a 2018 Challenger R/T with the T/A option package. It has the Sport Mode and Super Track Pack which allows me to mess around with the driving setup, the 4 piston Brembo Brakes and the 8.4 inch Nav with performance pages, the safety features such as blind spot detection and a Sunroof. It's a fun car to drive and I love mine. It really is just a step below the Scat Pack. I liked your video, so keep them coming.
What gas do you put in your R/T?
@@darkNovaskar I was putting 91 Octane (the highest I can get where I live), but I don't have it anymore. Traded it in on a 2021 ScatPack in HellRaisin Purple. Had to order from the factory, so 0 miles on it when I got it. It is awesome.
@@willpatscully how much more did you have to pay with the trade in?
@@darkNovaskar My payment went up exactly $20 per month
Massive difference in acceleration from RT to Scat? I’m in a 2019 Charger SXT and test drove a 14 challenger RT…. Loved the car enough to look at a 21 Charger or Challenger RT…..but something is telling to consider the Scat as well….thoughts?
I noticed in your video that the 2020 5.7L R/T intake did not have the silencer on the intake. Was 2020 the first year they removed it? I have a 2018 5.7L Challenger with the silencer which forced me to mount the oil catch can on the fender. Up until now, all 5.7 Challengers have had the silencers and the 5.7 Chargers never had it. I've never found a good explanation for why that is (the intakes are interchangeable between the two cars). Either way I agree with your review...I also had a 2015 Scat Pack and, while tons of fun, I found I had very little opportunity to take advantage of the extra power. For mileage, I was getting about 15.5 on the 6.4 while my 5.7 gets about 17.5 taking the same routes to work every day (mostly city). Regarding the exhaust, I have to say my 5.7 sounds meaner than my Scat Pack did (factory exhaust on both). Both have pros/cons, but I don't really miss the Scat Pack as much as I thought. Sadly for 2020, the Destroyer Gray color is gone. That's what I have on my 2018, and it's an awesome color.
Nice vid Paul!! Yet again, Very informative brother!
Thanks buddy .. much Appreciated
I've had both a 5.7 and 6.4 challenger and really enjoyed them both but for different reasons. The 5.7 is a nice v8 that has good power, economy, and is very well balanced to drive on a daily basis. Mine had the Super Track Pack and handled and drove well. Also, it had the active exhaust and sounded really good stock. The 6.4 is a torque-y mo-hummer that is a lot of fun and can be entertaining at the drag strip and is plenty fast for us mere mortals. So, your summary is right in line with my experiences.
So scat pack or nothing is what ur saying
@@brandonfernandez1981 No, not really. The RT is an awesome daily driver that has great qualities that are easy to live with. The Scatpack has more power but worse gas mileage and costs more. I like going to the drag strip every month or two and the SP is definitely more entertaining there, but on the street I never had any complaints about my 5.7. If you can swing it and can live with the worse gas mileage you would enjoy the SPs torque...it is pretty impressive. Lots of people say it is Hellcat or nothing, and I don't agree with that either. i have driven a couple of hellcats and yes they are awesome fast, but on the street...meh. I've looked at HCs a few times and will probably own one for a year or so just to get that experience...but i could also live with my SP for years and be perfectly happy. BTW - I don't daily my SP.
Can’t afford either so imma exit 🚪 🏃🏾
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sadly not everyone can find the R/T under 30k used or new and not everyone wants that 500+ monthly payment, even with that 3% apr.
The Green Gamer I don’t know a single person who pays more than $250 for their car a month when paid off
Love the video. Interesting how you chose to say “little” 5.7 a few times. Wonder what Freud would say about that?
I love your videos man keep on going ✊🏾
I had a 2016 rt for a year and just traded it in for a 2020 392 daytona scat pack. The power is a huge difference. Yes the gas in rt is nice and still plenty of fun but the difference is massive. The 6.4 is ridiculous.
I jumped from a V6 to a 392 and I was adamant about getting it. Dealer kept trying to convince me to get the 5.7 but I told him if Ur gonna sell me a car, it’s gonna be a 6.4. Needless to say, I got my 6.4!!! #MoparOrNoCar
Nice 🤜🔥🔥
Love my 6.4. Do a mid muffler delete dude, it will be loud with cracks and pops 🤤
Andre Wright a 5.7 is motar smart kid
Mopar *
John V why you hating g bet you don’t have no car 🤫
I love my scat pack. Just put a headlamp cold air intake on it and I love it.
Not that it does much
Really glad you did this video, I was debating on what I should trade my charger in to get next year.
Hopefully it helped a little bit
RacerX Most likely going to get a r/t I like the scar but don’t really need all the features, really just want that hemp sound - SXT owner 😂🤷♂️
Thanks for the comparison review. This video helped me a lot in determining which V8 is suitable for me and after careful consideration I went with the Scat Pack. I figure why tease myself with the 5.7 when I can go all in on what my heart desires which is the 6.4! Both vehicles will have you at the gas stop often so, hell why not. Thx
I have the 2019 Challenger rt plus.5.7 hemi. my challenger has sport and scat pack mode ...transmission traction ride steering launch mode etc ,,same as the scat pack except the 6.4,, thank you Racer X pointing out 5.7 is nothing to take lightly.
What’s a 5.7? Never heard of it lol
I got a RT Charger last July and I love it. I’ve never driven a Scat though. I will say there’s a big difference in how the car drives in Sport mode with 5.7. Throttle response is crisper, the exhaust valves open and the transmission holds gears longer. I personally don’t see the value of a Scat as a daily driver. I know it has to be noticeably faster based on the power output, but again as a daily driver, spending an extra $10k seems crazy. I got my ‘17 RT for about $23k. Used Scats at the same dealer were going for $35k.
Same I don't see myself driving a scat or hellcat as a daily lol 5.7L is all i need.
2016 R/T Plus owner here. The car fit within my budget and the manual makes it fun...and I can fit the family in the car. We all want the Demon, but we get what makes us happy.
I plan on getting the R/T with the performance handling package so that I'll get the 4 piston brembo brakes and the performance suspension. I'm debating as to getting the regular R/T or the shaker option.
I own a 2017 C7 stingray & I was out of town & rented a 2019 scatpack wide body & I have to say I really enjoyed it, I'm 6'3 230 lbs. & the scat pack was so much easier to get in & out of.. im really considering trading for a scat pack wide body.
Exactly! People knock it for it's size. To me, that's one of it's best features. It has more comfort, safety, muscle car era nostalgia, and intimidating road presence than the competition.
@@Jeremy_810 I'm 6'2" 250 and these L platform cars from Chrysler are great for big guys like us. Not to mention you can get a big 2 door coupe with a manual in the Challenger!
I was considering getting a C7 and trading in my Scat Pack. I found the engine to have less torque, and it didn't; sound anywhere near as good as my Scat Pack. I'm keeping my Charger. Triple.
i love my 2019 b5 blue scatpack widebody challenger. i drive it in track mode exclusively as its a weekend car for me and never ceases to turn heads or put a smile on my face
@@joesansone4265yes it was a wide body I know my cars.. yes in 2019 they made the wide bodies.. Google it
I have 21 Challenger R/T with the super track pack, 375hp I really don't need more. It gets me around traffic on two lane roads very quickly, it handles like it's on rails in the dry. It's also fun to roll it up to a buck thirty on long straights, and yet will rumble along at sixty eight in four cylinder mode and get 28mpg. For me it is the best all arounder of performance for the cost and maintenance.
I almost went with an rt, but splurged for the scatpack. Always wondered how the rt felt to drive.
Nice video!
Thank you Clint 👍
The 5.7 is a bulletproof engine that uses regular gas
Nuff said ✊🏿🙏🏿
I agree. I had enough money to pay $$ for a regular, low optioned 2018 R/T. When asked why I didn't buy the 392 I told them I didn't want a car payment... Or the added costs for gas and insurance. The 5.7 is plenty fast for me and the bonus is its paid for.
Its s great motor, for towing and hauling lol. It's a tuned truck motor. For 5k more get the actual performance car. Anyone who has had a 5.7 and then gets a 6.4 immediately is like wtf did I bother with the 5.7
@@Bizzair1990 5.7 and 6.4 the Same Engines the 6.4 just has a Stroker Kit on that why its still a R/T but called SRT Powered. Long story short, put 5k into the R/T 5.7 engine and you will Smoke Scats all Day long 😂 That's why I don't stand people hating on the 5.7... dig into it before your talk crap Bucko. Btw with an invest of 15K into the 5.7 you will have 700HP 😏😉
@@ImBehindYouLOOK Ummmm... no. the 6.4 is not a punched out 5.7 lol, they're not even manufactured at the same plant let alone share the same block. I dont know who told you that nonsense because the work you would have to put into a 5.7 to keep up with a scatpack would be well over 10 grand worth of work. Thats comp cams, full exhaust, tune intake, ported heads etc. Fuck outta here with that nonsense lol
@@ImBehindYouLOOK in what world mod for mod would a basic R/T be faster than a scatpack?
Thought this place looked familiar. I shopped for my scat pack here but ended up getting mine in Plano! Sweet rides
best move is getting a nicely used r/t for around 25k super bang for your buck!
Love my 2018 scat pack!! Cold start is what I look forward to
Fantastic review of the two models. As a huge fan of the channel I'd welcome more content on the 5.7s. Price between the two models was touched on but in Canada where I live the price is an even bigger factor. I have a 5.7 RT Shaker that MSRP around 54000, a Scat with any options is in the low 60's, a wide body eclipses 70, Hell Cat 100k and up. My point being the RT is an important model up here anyway as its already expensive so a Scat or above gets out of reach quick.
ps .... love the channel
My 2021 RT had more options than the Scat Pack. I am also not a fan of the "Bee". Test drove both. The SP was of course faster but it didn't quite have the rumble of my RT. From a price point of view, the RT is definitely more bang for your buck and it doesn't have those annoying bees in and on it. I believe if the bees weren't on every thing, I'd have chosen it. I will say that I do not regret my RT. After having Mustang GTs my whole life, I don't know if I could ever go back to a GT.
My car stays on "sport" mode. Also, if it's not in sport mode, it'll go down to 4 cylinders when you are at a certain speed.
Both are very fun. 6.4 has more oomph to it. If you’re looking for more power go 392. If you want something that’s very serviceable with decent power go 5.7.
I love my 2019 red Dodge Charger R/T 😋
👍🔥🔥
Spliff Allthat I love my R/T also. You get your bang for your buck
I have a 19 Charger RT I still want a scat pack everyday lol
Love my 2013 black challenger R/T as well
Mango 19. RT here
I love my 2019 RT plus.... it's my family car, and has enough punch to put a smile of my face everytime I drive it.
I have the 5.7 and definitely agree. However with the diablosport tune and pedal commander makes the 5.7 really feels like a beast. I’m super happy with the response now. Anyone with. a 5.7, these two mods will really wake up this motor.
I will have to check out this pedal commander 👍
RacerX Check out RT Life’s pedal commander videos. This thing completely takes out any throttle lag.
Saving for that 392 charger 🔥
I hope you get it my friend 👍
Hope you got it
Thanks! I liked this comparison. A lot of people get stuck on the numbers and automatically discredit the 5.7. It’s still a great, fun car it’s good Dodge gives people options to suit their life style. It’s still good power, not everyone is out trying to race. Buy your car for you
Agreed my friend 👍
Thank you , this helps me a ton.
Absolutely my friend 👍
Just got my 392 6.4 Scat Pack. I used to dream of owning this car. Well worth it.
Dang I got the 21' R/T It's comfortable but now I want the Scat Pack I need a little bit more juice and I'll be satisfied lol
@@AvenueI77 The best part about owning the scat other than the rumble of the 392 is easily spinning the tires on command.
For the Record: My 2015 R/T 5.7L A8 came with the Super Track Pack and the large screen display so those options can obviously be available to the 2020. I've watched your videos regarding tire testing on the 392 Scat Pack as a litmus of information gathering on how my upgrades to the 5.7L compare with your tests. Though this video is obviously showing partiality towards the Scat Pack and as you say the street is the great equalizer as far as 0 ~ 60 times and the 245 stock tires. Things can seriously change regarding the 5.7L Hemi with an unlocked ECM and a tune installed which makes the 5.7L quite the different animal than the 100% stock 5.7 off the dealer lot. With just external engine bolt on I can consistently get 4.4 second 0 ~ 60 times off of concrete surface so not every 5.7L R/T you pull next to on the street is going to get left behind by a Scat Pack 392. Depending on the modifications done to the 5.7, it may very well spank the stock Scat Pack!
You are correct David.. if you modded your car then it is quite possible. I was referring to stock powered cars of course. No bias towards one car or another.. just trying to be objective on these comparisons
I wish I was close by, I'd let you take my stock 5.7 R/T plus to run in place of the brandnew R/T. That way you could have run the crap out of mine that's completely broken in lol. I thought that when you had a brand new hemi it took a certain amount of miles to run in before your allowed full horsepower capability. But I'm not 100 percent sure lol, but I've heard that in the past, but I could be wrong, I definitely wouldn't be the first time lmai!! I love your vids and you have a new subscriber here!!
This is a awesome video 🙌🏾
Lemme just some this video up
“Yes, yes it is”
My 2016 Scat Pack had an MSRP of $38K. Best/fastest car I've owned. Triple.
Hateeeeee that sound effect for when text pops up on the screen! Drives me crazy lol, awesome video
I have on 07 Charger R/T and I love it!
The price difference should also include the payment difference and the insurance. The insurance shoots up big time with the 6.4.
I know that there is certainly a difference depending on the company and the driver 👍
When I switched from a 16 RT to a 17 Scat. My insurance went up $3 a month.
Nope because the scatpack is still considered an r/t. My friend went up from the 5.7 to the scat and his insurance didnt go up at all.
Don 't forget to factor in the price of replacement rear tires every 6-12 months! Yikes!
The Shaker on Scat Pack is a must for me. Completes the muscle car look..
Agreed.. love the Shaker
I love it too that's why my old Chevy has one. But why is it fake? when they show the motor the actual cold air intake is shown......
@@mikeficarella2513 It may be fake on your Chevy. But it is functional on the Challenger.
Allen Gregory it’s not functional on the challenger. Just an appearance package
@@allengregory4067 LMAO look at the picture and tell me how that's functional. And my Chevy has an actual shaker setup i built not this fake crap for people who don't know any better lol
Thanks RacerX!
For sure Mike 👍
Opinion on cam lifter failures mostly on 5.7 and not as prevalent in 6.4? Although you can save on gas, the chance of paying for a new engine, thousands for a repair job or a new car can be higher. Leaning more towards 6.4 for that
Didn't see it in the comments but another thing you need to consider on cost is insurance have almost a flawless driving record and it would be about another 100 to 120 bucks a month for a SCAT over an R/T so bought me a 2018 charger R/T about 6 months ago very happy with it.
Joe Brown .. the R/T is a great package 📦
Me too. But, I’m a lil bummed when I see the ‘19 hood and rear bumper....
when going for insurance with the scat they only look at the trim which is R/T. Since they are both r/t's the insurance didnt go up for my friends scatty. A couple of people i know with scats pay around 100 bucks for full coverage. Also depends on age and history, but as far as trim level, both scat and RT had no difference.
To me it would come down to the resale value. It is possible that the scat Pack will recoup a good chunk of that 10K in price difference if you ever decide to sell. The Scat Pack has one of the best sounding mufflers and 100+ HP is a significant difference. So in a nutshell yes I think it is well worth actually a bargain
I had my scat pack built with rear stripe delete, seat logo delete, and the tremec 6 speed. 40k . add taser software and a pedal commander, it's a blast every time I drive it.
Just bought my scat pack and I already got it impounded first week definitely get ya in trouble with this one!
He was right when he said it can get u in trouble 😂😂
RT gets you into trouble. Scat Pack gets you out of trouble. 🚔💨
May want to throw a note up on the video at 5:52 noting that it’s the 5.7 R/T and not the Scat Pack
Yes thank you for catching that.. I intended to call it the Challenger R/T and not the Scatpack R/T
We knew what you meant. 👍👍
@@RacerX9 No problemo.
Nice review of comparison n contrast.....just blessed that I was able to go full throttle in obtaining a Hellcat n bypass these models....had already tasted 450 hp from my Camaro 2SS prior.....yet, r/t n ScatPack are definitely nice from a price perspective..... I'm sure a lot of fun to drive..... it's all good
Absolutely agree hellcat fury.. the N/A models can be a ton of fun as well 👍
I just got a Daytona charger and I want to know the difference between the Daytona, scary pack and srt 6.4. You should definitely do comparison of those 3. Ive seen a lot of videos about them 3 but they don’t really do full review and specs like you do.
It’s ABSOLUTELY worth it! Just like the hellcat is worth it over the scat pack
As long as your wallet can support it 👍
I have a 17 RT super track pack. And i love it plus i can put 85 octane and get 25/26 hiway. Keep your scatpack. MOPAR FOR LIFE.
yeah..it all depends on hm you want that 1 second quicker machine.
initial cost, fuel & insurance rates..likely better off hopping up a 5.7L car to Scat specs if you wanna run 12's..or even 11's. :)
ik a dude with a heads & cam 5.7L '06 Charger, single spin car, runs 11.8. He's making Scat numbers and has...next to nothing in his car, ofc he did all of the work, minus the head porting.
@@tomj4406 A heads and cam 07 5.7 ain't running 11 nothing buddy! Keep smoking that shit.
Yeah we all know a guy who knows a guy.......
I have the 5.7 hemi and love it ..it's middle band ..just perfect for the road and fun to drive
Just got my 2021 RT love it!
I love my R/T.
Most RTs Ive seen are selling for near 40k. Maybe 38 or 39 at best. I got my Charger Scat with every option except a sunroof and the ungraded audio system for 42k. Just a no brainer for the extra power.
Was it new or used?
Does the 5.7 come with the different driving modes sport, track etc? Buying either rt or a scat pack and still undecided if it’s really worth to go spend the extra dough and get that 6.4
Looking at the scat pack and Rt. Of course prices are sky high right now. I have to order either one. I have a question? I've heard you really need to buy new tires because the stock are very dangerous, what is your thought?
The 5.7's 372 HP rating is really dated for 2020.
Ford's 5.0 puts out almost 100 HP more and is almost a liter smaller in displacement.
Hell even the 5.0 in the bullet is rated at 480 HP, 5 less than a 6.4 Mopar.
If your hellbent on a Mopar the 6.4 is a no brainer.
Think back to the late 70,s when the 5.0 Ford made 120 hp, times have changed!
Dodge needs to catch up!
Dude I was just telling my wife yesterday how my 2019 rt challenger is not really that fast for a modern day v8 it’s slow hell I can’t compete with a v6 with a super charger or turbo I’m not betting them or a modern na v6 put out 300 plus horses now so if I had the money most definitely I would have got a scat pack rt is fun but not that fast
@Bubba Gumpz_Scrimpz The Demon was a limited one year production vehicle built on a chassis that's more than 10 years old using a large displacement push rod engine......
372 HP from a 5.7 V8 is almost laughable in 2020, never mind in a 4000+ lbs car.
Yeah it's time to catch up.
Bubba Gumpz_Scrimpz Im not talking about the demon dummy, I was only talking about the 5.7L and how Dodge needs to catch up with that and make it faster!
Hell yea its worth it a guy tried to race me in his 5.7 I blew his doors off months later he saw me at the gas station and told me he traded in his 5.7 next day after he raced my 392 🤣
The 6.4 definitely has more punch.. just depends on what you can afford or how much power you feel like is appropriate for you 👍
Then u pull up to a hellcat and he'll blow ur doors off lol. Dont knock on 5.7s
5.7 never heard of it
Sure the 6.4 might have more power but at the end of the day the 6.4 will lose to a hellcat a redeye and a demon so theirs not much bragging to go around.
Johnny Kilroy dont knock on the 5.7 it’s a great motor
Just FYI, the steering can be changed in the radio of the R/T. I have the most basic radio in my 15 and it has settings for comfort and sport and I think one other.
I have the RT shaker...and it has a super track pack button as well as sport mode and launch mode...and I got the cool white gauges big infotainment screen and hood pins ...it's a blast
I jumped from v6 to scatpack🐝, I'm in dallas tx..
how much down did you put? and where by? i'm looking to buy one in dallas too
YT sees a spate of, "Is Scat Pack a better deal than Hellcat?"
Now it's, R/T or Scat Pack?
Next up, "Is SXT Chally with V6 a better deal than the R/T?
The Scat Pack vs RT makes infinitely more sense than comparing a Hellcat to a Scat. They're significantly closer in price. People that are shopping a $70k+ car aren't shopping a $40k car as a comparo. However, anyone buying a well equipped RT is almost assuredly crunching numbers on a Scat.
@@mackm3875 I wouldn't toss any of them out of my garage. All I know is..you can get really well made superchargers now & can save big $ by having one installed onto an R/T car, vs getting a Hellcat. Ofc..the Hellcat drivetrain is super over engineered and is honestly within an nth of even Redeye and Demon in fortitude. 1,000-1,300+ hp can be had & these cars eat it up and ask for more. That's part of the beauty and bargain of SRT..upgradeable from already high performance & they can handle it with aplomb..a rarity. Hearkening back to the Mopar muscle cars of yore
Scat Pack starts to get upgrades that make use of power, as opposed to RT. Brakes, suspension, wheels, drive modes, etc. I'd be most inclined to slap a blower in a Scat since it's a 6.4 instead of 6.2 like Hellcat. I don't thin you could go wrong either way, but I'd love to run a Scat until it seems "Normal" then slap forced induction on it.
Imho the R/T is a nice car to save some money.
At this stage in my life I will be getting the Scat WB,
however there is a lot to be said for having a sleeper R/T and hurting
feelings of unsuspecting Scats. Last/greatest muscle car anyway you cut it!
Love your content.
Great video!